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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, thirty four,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Daily Sight Guys to production of My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into america shared consciousness and say, officially, off

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Speaker 1: the top, fuck the Koch Brothers and fuck Fox News. Yeah. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's Tuesday, May nine. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.

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Speaker 1: Jack Pott. I just realized as I was starting that

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Speaker 1: with Jack pottuh and I'm thrilled to be joined. As

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Speaker 1: always buy my co host Mr Miles Grag Big heroes

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Speaker 1: of the Sight Hell with the Fox News Bite Site

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Speaker 1: Site Site Side Fighting Daily Site, rat Dot rat Dot

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Speaker 1: Dot down in Hot Takes day Go casting hosts of

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Speaker 1: the Daily Site send them down. Oh my god. Tears

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Speaker 1: in my eyes because that was from the scene of

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Speaker 1: Tubal Goody Jr. Dying in Tuskegee Airmen. Okay, when he's

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Speaker 1: singing the Fighting Night straighten up and fly right and

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Speaker 1: he just has to go down. He's playing his hit.

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Speaker 1: I made him. I made a reference to that when

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Speaker 1: someone said Muskegee Airmen. Uh. And because the Night Gang

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Speaker 1: is tapped into all levels of consciousness, especially in my mind.

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Speaker 1: They connected the dots to the HBO film, So thank you, too,

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Speaker 1: official Dickhead for that one. Yeah, officials officially on a

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Speaker 1: tear right in the building. Yeah uh, these are the

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Speaker 1: things that I find myself saying these days. Dickhead is

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Speaker 1: officially on a tear. Uh. I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third seat by our other co host, Jamie

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Speaker 1: loft Us. Tonight, I'm gonna have my self were good.

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Speaker 1: I'll go up side while the world is turning outside.

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Speaker 1: It just stayed at home in quarantine. But don't stop

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Speaker 1: me now, don't stop me, because I'll drive to Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Drop to Wisconsin, short to ring a pie like a patriot,

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Speaker 1: to find the laws of Quarrantine on the payoff on

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Speaker 1: it was worth the journey. Thank you at MC. Matt

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Speaker 1: Dick though, Matt Matt Dick Though, Matt Dick though, well,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat

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Speaker 1: by the brilliant and hilarious Jason Pargeon a K David Wong. Jason,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? I gotta asking of your question.

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Speaker 1: Has been the weirdest year of your lives? M not

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Speaker 1: the worst, the weirdest. It's been the weirdest year of mine,

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Speaker 1: but I realized I have led a less weird life

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Speaker 1: than some people. I'm trying to think it's up there.

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Speaker 1: It's top three because it's not just the pandemic, it's

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Speaker 1: that the pandemic had to come with Donald Trump as

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Speaker 1: president in an election year, like I don't know, two

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Speaker 1: weeks after the U. S. Military announced that aliens were

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Speaker 1: harassing their fighter jets and we just we all just

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Speaker 1: blew it off. That to me told me it was probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the one I'm going to remember. I was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be on the show like two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: the day before where to record a freak wind storm

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Speaker 1: a spontaneous gust of destructive wind hits Nashville, knocks out

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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty thousand homes power. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: electricity for four days, and it was just like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's uh, that's the kind of thing that happens in

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Speaker 1: that's it's pretty much right in line. Well, it's also

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Speaker 1: I did have to explain to everybody when when you

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Speaker 1: follows you around the country. So I wasn't shocked. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna blame it all on you, but mostly this

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Speaker 1: happened in two thousand and nine when I was at cracked.

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Speaker 1: And if someone listening to this says, well, you clearly

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Speaker 1: are living in part of the country where spontaneous inland

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Speaker 1: hurricanes form. No, No, I have moved since then the

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Speaker 1: freak weather event that was a different state, the freak

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Speaker 1: last decade that the headlines had the word freak rare

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Speaker 1: to do something important on the internet. Yes, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I remember something from the last the last

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Speaker 1: I mean that that shouldn't happen. I'm thinking, yeah, in

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Speaker 1: this on paper, like as you say, when you tick

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Speaker 1: the boxes, it's like, yeah, we let it. We just

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Speaker 1: it at this time, Like we'll get back to aliens

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Speaker 1: harassing the military. It's so funny because I spent the

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Speaker 1: entire nineties like watching the X Files, and the entire

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Speaker 1: premise was that aliens are out there, but that the

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Speaker 1: letting everybody know there's some sort of uh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know something about it, if you know what planet

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Speaker 1: you've been waiting on your whole life, right yeah, demanding

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Speaker 1: like the Area fifty one files, and it's like, no,

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Speaker 1: here they are where, Yeah they're they're like that video

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Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, we're someone either they're real or

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Speaker 1: somebody knows way too much and we're stupid as fun

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Speaker 1: and we're way behind. Jason. Have you read the debunking

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Speaker 1: and that's the fun part to me because I've written

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Speaker 1: It's like a new religion. It's and like the origins

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Speaker 1: Ufo abductions and white people believe in that kind of

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Speaker 1: just it's a government, you know, the radiation test balloon.

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Speaker 1: And now that it's like under Trump, the fact that

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Speaker 1: Like it just doesn't even it's like, yeah, okay, we

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Speaker 1: just they have so little credibility that not even that

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Speaker 1: matters anymore. Yeah, all right, well we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: they're cutting of the hero bonuses. They've decided to reverse

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Speaker 1: course just like that. That. Yeah, we're gonna talk last Dance.

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Speaker 1: We're also gonna talk about Scoob if we have a chance. Scoobe.

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Speaker 1: Really I watched Scoob, you did, I bravely watched Scoob.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah that's right, you were. You were texting us

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Speaker 1: human teeth. Anyways. Yeah, alright, well we do have to

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Speaker 1: it safe to get a haircut? Mm hmm yeah, um

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Speaker 1: that question. Um that people have never seen like a

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Speaker 1: But where I'm at, their reopening restaurants are open um

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Speaker 1: had to start googling, well, is it safer to go

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Speaker 1: There's all of these qualifiers. It's like, well, are you

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Speaker 1: don't know, how do I find that out? Yeah? Like

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Speaker 1: you know, my my hair does have its own Instagram account.

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Speaker 1: The fans are asking about it. But you know, there's

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Speaker 1: well what can you do? I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 1: be like to be outside. Yeah, out haircut? Haircut in

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Speaker 1: a windstorm? Yeah? Keep that? Keep those ye have? Like

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Speaker 1: a Dyson fan. They're like, we've guaranteed ensuring the safety

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Speaker 1: of our customers. Were giving you this heavy duty Dyson

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Speaker 1: fan to hold in front of your face so nothing

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Speaker 1: blow it back, and then you can get the barber

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Speaker 1: only issue is that all of the chemicals that are

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Speaker 1: it has would probably like kill all plants and animals

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Speaker 1: it's so can I mean, yeah, trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: this together. We at Burger King are doing everything we

427
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Speaker 1: can to make sure that your food is safe. And

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00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: it's like, man, that is not what I want out

429
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Speaker 1: of fast food ads right now. I know we're in

430
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Speaker 1: a pandemic. You already were making food that can kill me,

431
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: and you used to make ads making fun of that fact,

432
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: Like Carl Jr. I need you to come to my rescue.

433
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Speaker 1: Now the time to release like the most irresponsible thing

434
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Speaker 1: you've ever made, where it's like a cheeseburger where there's

435
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Speaker 1: like four patties and then the bun is like a

436
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: turro like coded in like sugar and cinnamon. It's got

437
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: like nine strips of bacon on it, and then like yeah, exactly.

438
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: The ad campaign is like the Tiger King doing the

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Speaker 1: doing the ad from prison over a video call, like

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Speaker 1: I want I want you to make the most outrageous,

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Speaker 1: hateful thing. Don't acknowledge the pandemic, don't even talk about it.

442
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Speaker 1: Just show people the way you show them before eating

443
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Speaker 1: the burger on the beach, and it's like a sexy

444
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Speaker 1: woman or something, because you know, just please. That's what

445
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: ads are for. They take place in this alternate universe

446
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: where we're all invincible and nothing matters. Yeah, I think

447
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: that now would be like a really good time to like, yeah,

448
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: go double down on how fun fast food can be too,

449
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: Like I was, I was last night, I was in

450
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: a Mac tonight hole. I'm like, they should just bring

451
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: back Mac Tonight. That would be a great approach to

452
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Speaker 1: the quarantines, just reviving old shitty fast food characters that

453
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Speaker 1: are funny and then just have Mac Tonight be like,

454
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: don't touch me. I would like that better. Yeah, yeah,

455
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Speaker 1: why haven't you the guy he used to do the

456
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Speaker 1: subway ads? Bring him back? Oh no, news man, Oh yeah,

457
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: back Tonight is like he's like an icon in all right.

458
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I just knew he was played

459
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Speaker 1: by Doug Jones. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like any

460
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: like anything. The White supremacists find a way of co

461
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Speaker 1: opting Mac Tonight. They take Mac Tonight. Man, Jamie, this

462
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Speaker 1: is new podcast. You you reclaiming Mac Tonight. I can't

463
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Speaker 1: believe Mac Tonight is a like weird I'll spoof on

464
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Mac the Knife, which is a song that is from

465
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: the Threepenny Opera, like the uh Weimar Republic Threepenny Opera.

466
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: It's like such a bizarre idea. Yeah, I'm pretty sure

467
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Speaker 1: that's that's the whole idea, right, is Mac the Knife

468
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: Mac Tonight? Well? Yeah, yeah, that's like his song that's

469
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: so upsetting. Oh well, that ruined absolutely ruined my day.

470
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Speaker 1: It's you know nothing, but yeah, I think with those

471
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: fast food commercials, it really is. It's like I don't,

472
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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not relying on subway to keep me safe.

473
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm not relying on these people to keep me safe. Sure,

474
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm fine if you're an insurance provider and you're telling

475
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: me or like a bank saying well, I mean that

476
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: would be fantastic, Like hey man, no mortgages for a while. Huh,

477
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: all right, we get the point. Uh sorry from us

478
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Speaker 1: to you take it easy for a little bit. We

479
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: get it. It's tough rather than being like, hey, we'll

480
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Speaker 1: have a long phone call where we're still tell you

481
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: that you owst the money. But like the subway needs

482
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: to just like you're saying, Jason, you're watching something escapist

483
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: you don't want, Like I feel like it must get

484
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: hoodwinked where you see like a subway logan're like, oh,

485
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: thank god, a subway commercial and then it's just like

486
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: overflowing like ers and it's like, you know, and during

487
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: this crisis, like I don't need that imagery in my

488
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: fast food commercial at the moment, Like things are very

489
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: tense enough as it is. And also reassuring me that

490
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: your employees are wearing gloves and and are not breathing

491
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Speaker 1: on the food. I'd be fine if it just turned

492
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Speaker 1: out that was always true. I kind of because germs

493
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: were not invented two months ago. That's you know, so

494
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: I will just I'm fine with just assuming that Kentucky

495
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: Fried Chicken or whoever is being sanitary. Take do the

496
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Speaker 1: thing that I need you to do, which is make

497
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Speaker 1: food fun. And I used to criticize those ads. I've

498
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: criticized junk food culture. We've done podcasts about it. I

499
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: now wish I had it back. That's why it's underrated

500
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: me because I did not realize the comfort they were

501
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: providing me until it was gone. Like so many things.

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00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: The odd thing, too, is these companies are missing such

503
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: a great opportunity just to performatively act like they give

504
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Speaker 1: a funk about their employees, Like if I saw a

505
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: commercial being like when you come into a Burger king,

506
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: like we're doing everything to make sure every team member

507
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Speaker 1: is as safe as possible, like if the time off

508
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: we do, and that to me exactly, that to me

509
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: as a consumer, would motivate me more to go to

510
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: a place like that right now, because I'm like, damn,

511
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: that's cool, Like, even though this is all chaotic, like

512
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Speaker 1: someone is actually making it a priority to say, look,

513
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Speaker 1: if we're going to open, we want to make sure

514
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Speaker 1: that there's absolutely zero risk to our teammates or whatever.

515
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: That's why you can like the safety is born out

516
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: of the fact that we're keeping our employees safe. I

517
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: think that's more of an interesting marketing hook. But you

518
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Speaker 1: know what, but that's so easily disproved that I bet

519
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: they're like, let's not even bother to pretend that we

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00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: care about our employees, because we'd never have. Yeah, Jason,

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Speaker 1: something you think is overrated. Spare time. I left my

522
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Speaker 1: day job at Cracked in March um and this was

523
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: it was unrelated to the pandemic. There was total coincidence

524
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: that I left because I thought, all right, i've left.

525
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Speaker 1: Now I can do all of the things I could

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Speaker 1: not do back when I effectively had two jobs, like

527
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Speaker 1: get in shape and stay in touch with my my friends.

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Speaker 1: Uh and and like you know, all the people like

529
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Speaker 1: I wonder what happened to Jack, I should contact Jack

530
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Speaker 1: and see how he's doing. Uh. And it turned out no,

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Speaker 1: it actually was not. Time was not the problem before.

532
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Speaker 1: It's and I know you're gonna say, well, yeah, but

533
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Speaker 1: it's you had all the spare time. But there's also

534
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: all this anxiety because the pandemic, and that's not real

535
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: spare time. But I feel like that's the point. It

536
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: was always about energy and like mental energy and not

537
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Speaker 1: because if I really cared about fitness, I'd probably have

538
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Speaker 1: made time for it. See it's funny. I I took

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Speaker 1: that moment or I was like, well, I've run out

540
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: of excuses to my back was against the wall, and

541
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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, I guess I'm gonna

542
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: start doing the thing that I said I wouldn't do,

543
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: which is exercise. And I've been able to do that.

544
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: I think because like I was bullshitting myself with the

545
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Speaker 1: excuse of time, and then there's nothing like for me,

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Speaker 1: I can I motivate myself. Sometimes when I've completely ran

547
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Speaker 1: out of excuses, like I will argue ridiculous things to

548
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Speaker 1: not do in my mind. But when I finally like

549
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm I've ran out, there's no choice but for me

550
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Speaker 1: to act. So that's one thing that has happened. But

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00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, the spare time, it was always in

552
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Speaker 1: relation to like how our lives were working, Visavi like

553
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: our employment too, is what I realized. I want you

554
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Speaker 1: to make a mental note of that, because we're going

555
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: to come back to this in the last dance section

556
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: when we start talking about self motivation and the weird

557
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: things the human brain does to self motivate. Yeah, but

558
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: I used to. I think it kind of called my

559
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: bluff because I told myself, well, I only don't do

560
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: these things because it's I just don't have time. Like

561
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, but you willingly filled your schedule so

562
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to do these things, right, But isn't

563
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: there a part of you where you're like, I'm full

564
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Speaker 1: of shit. I was just saying I wanted to do it,

565
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Speaker 1: and I usually excuse didn't. Wouldn't that then be like

566
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Speaker 1: are you just saying I guess I didn't really want that.

567
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Speaker 1: It's just something I was saying to myself because I

568
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: think that's the moment I had where I was like,

569
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Speaker 1: then I am I just full of ship and I

570
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: I just kept saying just bullshitting myself about this, and

571
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: that's when I was like no, no, no, like, now

572
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: now is the time to not continue that anymore. I

573
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Speaker 1: admire that you were able to take the extra step

574
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Speaker 1: where you turn the self loathing into action. Many of

575
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: us find that difficult, and we just get stuck at

576
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: the self loathing stage and then get this, we take

577
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: the self loathing as an accomplishment. Like I feel I

578
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: feel sufficiently guilty about the fact that I'm not exercising. Therefore,

579
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I am morally crediting myself with feeling guilt about not

580
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: exercising job. I am a good person because I feel

581
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: bad about the fact that I didn't call all of

582
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Speaker 1: my friends a family that I've been neglecting for the

583
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: last twenty years. It's it's like the fact that I

584
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: hate myself for it. You know, I could go out

585
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: on Twitter and make jokes about it on podcasts. This

586
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: is my exercise right here. It's me talking about it,

587
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: right because in your mind, you're like, well, I'm engaging

588
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: with it in a very reasonable way. So correct self

589
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: awareness is the thing that the excuses everything else for me. See,

590
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: I think I've arrived at that another level of self

591
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 1: awareness where I'm aware of that awareness and I'm just like,

592
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: what the funk it? Like, what's the point of even

593
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: thinking all this ship in your head? Now? Excusing a

594
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: bunch of inactivity and know I was like, no, un

595
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: ironically admire that. I'm not being sartastic at all. I'm

596
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: not joking though, Jason. This is maybe a ten year

597
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: process though, Like it was ten years of me saying

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Speaker 1: I have spare time. So I was frontloading a lot

599
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Speaker 1: of energy to make to try and make get this

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Speaker 1: thing work in it. And I guess this is all

601
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Speaker 1: it took was me to have zero options to be like,

602
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: I've smoked as much wet as I can today. I've

603
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: played as many video games I candidate as well, try

604
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: and run for a little bit. Yeah, it's been a

605
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: real forest gump thing. You've been just running, running across

606
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: the country ever since. Is recorded from a different location

607
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm running right now actually, And that's

608
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: how good I've got my reading good? Yeah, a different

609
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: postcard location. If my lip with my lipstick on it

610
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: sealed with a kiss swack. Yes, I can now do

611
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: the Jane fond A tape, but from memory. I don't

612
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: have to watch it anymore. I can just do it.

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Speaker 1: It's been days, I could just do it now. I

614
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: love that. It's Yeah, I'm with Jason. I'm I've just

615
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: gotten less energy to do the things that are or like,

616
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: you got to motivate yourself like I. I tried it

617
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Speaker 1: for a while doing Diamond Dallas Page yoga because I

618
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: like wrestling, and I was like, what d dp's you know,

619
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Speaker 1: he's broke his back a ton. If he's doing yoga,

620
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Speaker 1: maybe he'll help me along. That works for a little bit, Jason,

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Speaker 1: what's a myth? What's something people who think is true,

622
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, to be false service versa. Well, I realized

623
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: that up till now, I've picked a series of things

624
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: that each come with like thirty minutes of discussion. This

625
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: one is really straightforward and shouldn't really trigger any discussion

626
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: at all. The myth is that the pandemic response is

627
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: going to be the scandal that finally changes voters minds

628
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: about Trump. Like this, because I'm getting again in my

629
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: Twitter bubble, I get those comfort food headlines where it's like,

630
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: we talked to some voters who thought that the coronavirus

631
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Speaker 1: was a hoax because Trump told them so. Now they're

632
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: all sick and they're changing their minds. And then you

633
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: can click right on over to Trump's approval ratings to say, oh,

634
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: his approval rating is actually higher than it was in

635
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Speaker 1: January of seventeen, right after he us worn into office.

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Speaker 1: It's we've nothing has changed. It goes up and it

637
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Speaker 1: goes down. It always snaps back to the same level

638
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Speaker 1: around support. Yeah. It's interestingly like, yeah, and their minds

639
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: are now changed, except not on white supremacy, which is

640
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: what this is really all about, because the pandemics. I

641
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: think if black and brown people started doing better in

642
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: the country, his approval rating will go down, Like that's

643
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Speaker 1: where you'd see his supported back. No. I signed up

644
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: for this because I was cheering in the streets when

645
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: you're forcing people to go back to work to serve me. Uh,

646
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Speaker 1: And I think, I mean it's but it's true. I

647
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: think we always look at this all the time. We're like, yeah,

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00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: it is what it is. This is people are just

649
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, they're all in on what he represents, not

650
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: even it's it's not about the issues anymore, just what

651
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: he represents. Yeah, And I don't mean that to be discouraging.

652
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: It's just that it's hard to see because we we

653
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: did an article and cracked about this, like the first

654
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: headlines of Trump voters realizing he's crazy and turning on him.

655
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Speaker 1: Go back to twenty because he had been and he

656
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: had announced for the primaries, and you know, initially had

657
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: some polling that looked stronger than you would suspect from

658
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: the freaking host of The Apprentice running for president. And

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00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: then they went out and interviewed some people. It was

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Speaker 1: after he had did the speech about you know, Mexico

661
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: sending the rapists and the murderers and all that, and

662
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: they had found some people saying, well, you know, I

663
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: was intrigued in the beginning, but this is a step

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00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: too far. And after every gaff, after every the Russia stuff,

665
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: after the big thing was the terroiffts, and he went

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Speaker 1: and interviewed a bunch of farmers who were losing their

667
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: farms because of the terrorists they can sell to China,

668
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, they get these great quotes.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know, I voted forward from because

670
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: I thought he would initiate change, but I've learned my lesson.

671
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: He's full of hot air. And those things will get

672
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: so many retweets and likes on my in my Twitter bubble,

673
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: and so many people loving, like like ONNK on those

674
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: people's like now you recognized it, your dumbass, and then

675
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: you click right on over to the approval ratings, like Nope,

676
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: that's exactly the same. So I think that's why the

677
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: bottom line, it's just like just have to energize as

678
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: many other people to vote against him as possible. Like

679
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: we know that there's gonna there's that immovable block. Now

680
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: do all of the work around everything else around that.

681
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: And that's where and not to go down the rabbit

682
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: hole of the election. I realized we've got six months

683
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Speaker 1: to talk about the election. That specifically, you have about

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Speaker 1: six states, and you guys can probably name the Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin,

685
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: like there's like Pennsylvania for four states or so that

686
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Trump flipped from Hillary or flip from Obama. That if

687
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: if Biden flips three of the four, that's it. We

688
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: already know how California is going to vote. The talk

689
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: of Texas turning blue, please, it's not gonna happen this time.

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00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: It's there's like four states, and then among those four states,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about something like what do you think, Jack,

692
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: two d thousand voters total. And that's why the Republicans

693
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: are there's not They're going to spend so much money

694
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: in this campaign that you're going to see so many ads.

695
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: The ads are gonna make you sick. They're gonna spend

696
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: so much on Facebook ads and all that. Ultimately, it's

697
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Speaker 1: going to come down to can voter suppression in the

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Speaker 1: swing states? Keep like people home. That's all you need,

699
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: Like voter idea laws. It doesn't matter if it mostly

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Speaker 1: affects people who wouldn't have voted anyway. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: the slimmest of margins in four or five six states,

702
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Speaker 1: and just if you can just close certain pulling places

703
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: things like that, that's where the battle is and all

704
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: of this like we on Twitter, we in the podcast space.

705
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: So the next six months are going to obsess over

706
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: scandals and gaffs and oh Trump pooped his pants during

707
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: the debate. This will surely be the end. In the end,

708
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Speaker 1: ratings went up. The people, the people on the ground

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Speaker 1: who really know what they're doing, know that it's about

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Speaker 1: the slimmest of margins of turnout in this half dozen states,

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Speaker 1: and that's all it's gonna matter. So all of this

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00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: other stuff is kind of sideshow. Yeah, Like I do

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Speaker 1: keep talking about home, reading about the Weimar Republic and uh,

714
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Speaker 1: I don't know, like I maybe it's just the reading

715
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Speaker 1: of that, but I keep like feeling like the way

716
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Speaker 1: that we're seeing all of this in the like by

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Speaker 1: paying attention to it in the like more micro zeitgeist

718
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: level is missing that there's like just an overall shift

719
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: happening that is really like dangerous, that the country is

720
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Speaker 1: really like teetering on the brink of something bad. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just me selectively reading about

722
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Speaker 1: pre Nazi Germany or I don't want to give Elon

723
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: Musk this much power because I think he's been like

724
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: a capitalist ship head from when he was you know,

725
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: born owning an emerald mind. But the fact that these

726
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: like liberal hero like he's tweeting take the red Pill

727
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: and Ivanka's tweeting Taken, and I don't know, it just

728
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: feels like, yes, it feels like there's a hard wall

729
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: that he's not going to drop below because of like

730
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Speaker 1: an inbuilt like culture of white supremacy that was reminded

731
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: that you know, it's terrified of losing that that edge

732
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Speaker 1: with Obama and like so people just aren't aren't willing

733
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Speaker 1: to go down at all. But I I I don't

734
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Speaker 1: know if it can't go in the other direction, I'm

735
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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that we can't totally lose the

736
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Speaker 1: thread of of you know, rationality and reasonableness as a

737
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Speaker 1: as a country and as a culture. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think things are already bad to be honest, Um,

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Speaker 1: there's already I mean, yes, there's like, uh, there's like

740
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: lawlessness without lawlessness, if that makes sense, Like it doesn't

741
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, people still get in, they respect

742
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: what a line is to get into a movie or whatever.

743
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: Or back before all of this, but there was still

744
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: just you know, rampant killing of like vulnerable people. There's

745
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: there's constant financial warfare being played out, economic warfare being

746
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: played out in a class of people who are like

747
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: living in an absolute health scape. Prior to all of this,

748
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: like day to day life was not pleasant. And I

749
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: think it's interesting because you know, like every subsequent fucked

750
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: up global event, we learned like, Okay, we don't want

751
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: to fight like that anymore, Like we don't want to

752
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: fight with like just shooting each other's faces off in

753
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: the street like that war. So then we kind of

754
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: learned a little bit more from each one and it

755
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: begins to look a little bit different. But now I mean,

756
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: I would absolutely argue that, you know, life is absolutely

757
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: hard to imagine going through all the time when you

758
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: live in a place where you have no support, if

759
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: you have mental health problems, if you are vulnerable as

760
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Speaker 1: l G B t Q youth in a conservative area

761
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: where your family's outs to you, if you're a person

762
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: of color trying to jog um. There's there's a lot

763
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: of there's just but that's the thing. Like the people

764
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: who are so angry right now, these like dress up

765
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: patriots and ship they're only they're only willing to get

766
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: angry because they want to go to a bar that's

767
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: not steaks, but those are their steaks, and that's clearly

768
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: enough to motivate them. But there are people who are

769
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: looking down the you know, the proverbial barrel of a

770
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: completely different gun that I think is much is also

771
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: very frightening. And I think looking at friends and family

772
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: who are in like precarious situations with their finances even now,

773
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: just because of this, and just looking at the absolute

774
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: lack of any kind of feeling of safety or anything

775
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: from the government or local leadership is off is fucking terrifying.

776
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're definitely, we're every day we're polarized more

777
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: and more and more. And I think Jack, like you

778
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: were saying, like just that Lily Wichowski reply of her,

779
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: just to the both, I'm saying, we have fun, both

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Speaker 1: of you. It really does speak to like that's all

781
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: we've got anymore, Like all we can say is that

782
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: fuck you, guys, because we've, like a lot of us

783
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: are pretty much resigned to the fact that we're having

784
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: trouble addressing this this creeping problem. Yeah. Yeah, as far

785
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: as the voter issues go, I mean, it seems like

786
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: this is a very cynical way to look at it,

787
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: but it's it's like, just based on even very recent evidence,

788
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: it seems like if there is an opportunity on either

789
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: side really to funk around with voting, that will be

790
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: taken full advantage of. Because as recently as two months ago,

791
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: we were asking people in like places where that we're

792
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: already technically quarantined to go to voting sites like it's

793
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: it's already there's a total lawlessness in approach to like

794
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: how actual voting is working. And ideally we would all

795
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, we're gonna vote by mail. This is

796
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: gonna be great, but it's but I just don't see

797
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: it going that way. There's no there's no way that

798
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: this election won't be somehow tampered with. And there's already

799
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: like I mean, voter suppression is already so rampant, where

800
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: it's like we already know that, like people of color

801
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: are prevented from voting all the time. There's like idea

802
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: issues is all this ship and it's like it's just

803
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna it's not gonna get better, like what you know,

804
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: it's just it's But let me predict in advance. Uh,

805
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: here's a tactic that Trump and his administration loves to use.

806
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: They will leak or suggest an outrageous policy, something that

807
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: has universal backlash, and so he will leak or suggest

808
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: or say, well, maybe we should delay the election for

809
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: a year until we know what's going on. Let the

810
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: media go nuts, let the Twitter sphere go nuts, let

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00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: all of the late night comedians go nuts, comparing him

812
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Speaker 1: to a dictator. Then he will walk back from that,

813
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: but we'll put out there a policy that is extremely subtle. Well,

814
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Speaker 1: we've got we'll go ahead and have the election, but

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Speaker 1: just to be safe, we're gonna shut down certain pulling

816
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: locations that we've judged to be high risk, right based

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00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: on these outbreaks clusters, oh, which look at that the

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Speaker 1: data seems to say that's in a lot of black

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00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: and brown areas. Or and it will be released and

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00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: you will have like some ten thousand word Atlantic article

821
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Speaker 1: breaking down the systemic oppression of this plan, and then

822
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: you'll have on Fox News what it's like, Well, you,

823
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: I guess you want people to get sick because you

824
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: were so upset when they voted in Wisconsin the primary.

825
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Speaker 1: Like we're out here trying to keep people safe, and

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Speaker 1: they will It will sound reasonable to a lot of

827
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: average people. It's like, well, you know, of course we

828
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Speaker 1: want to make make sure you're only going to the

829
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Speaker 1: safe locations. Of course we want to you know, they

830
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Speaker 1: can drive to the polling place. How hard is that?

831
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Speaker 1: Everyone has a car, don't they? And and because the outrage,

832
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: we will feel like we won the battle, like, oh,

833
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Speaker 1: the Twitter backlash was so strong, we made Trump have

834
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: the election. We're so good and powerful that this other

835
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: policy that again, all it has to do is shift

836
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Speaker 1: a couple hundred thousand votes. It doesn't you know, it

837
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It doesn't have to stop everyone from voting.

838
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: It just has to shift the narrowest of margins in

839
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: these half a dozen states, and that that's how they

840
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: will do it. That the actual plan won't be like

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Speaker 1: something from a movie where a dictator does it. It

842
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: will be a more subtle hand, because while Trump just

843
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: barely understands politics, he's surrounded by people who actually understand

844
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: it very well. Yeah, all right. As much as I'd

845
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: like to continue to discuss all the subtle ways our

846
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: democracy is being dissolved, we have to get to the

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00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: important matter of last dance. It ended last night. But

848
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: first let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

849
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: And we're back. So, Jamie, you watched everything, right, I did.

850
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: And Jason, you watched everything? Oh yeah, it's you know

851
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: you were. You were a huge Bulls fan right growing up,

852
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: usually because I lived in Illinois, so we were in

853
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: like the w g N broadcast area. We got the

854
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Chicago Tribune at all of our gas stations, so I

855
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: had daily Chicago papers. I could read all of those

856
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: sports calumnists. That that picture they showed at the end

857
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: of all the faces in the crowd when when Jordan's

858
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: was about to hit the winning shot, and it was

859
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 1: like the still shot of this white crowd in Utah

860
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: and all their faces there's like this look of despair

861
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: and everyone's face. I have that framed behind me right now.

862
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: I have that photo. That's amazing. Uh. And we're gonna

863
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: bring in super producer on A. Hosnier, who also watched

864
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: the Last Dance and was very uh it was fun

865
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: to watch the Last Dance with you on a over text. Yeah, no,

866
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: I I just really enjoyed your observations. You you really

867
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: like got into the series and like we're surprised by

868
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: things that I had taken for granted a long time ago,

869
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: and um, it was this show like true Like some

870
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: of my earliest memories growing up is watching uh like

871
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: from like I want to say, like to eight is

872
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: what I remember watching the Bulls the most with my

873
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: dad and brothers, and that it really uh it hit home. Man.

874
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: I was like so nostalgic and happy and like I

875
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: was really into basketball as a kid because I wanted

876
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: to fit in with like the boys and my fam

877
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: And there's so many things I remember, And let me

878
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: just say, like my dad, the first place he came

879
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: to America and from Iran was Utah. So he's this

880
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: huge jazz fan and we we look like our family,

881
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: our family. Like last night the group chat was just

882
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: like everyone just saying fuck Carl Malone to my dad,

883
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: and he was just like, well, technically he's a great

884
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: Like it's just like whatever, Dad, you can't even admit

885
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: that this, like to this day, to this day, he's

886
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: still out here trying to defend Carl Malone even though

887
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: we're like he's a bad person altogether. I remembered Carl

888
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: Malone as a dork, and sure enough he he delivered

889
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: with just by just appearing constantly with like jeans with

890
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: a T shirt tucked into his highwaysted jeans. Uh. And

891
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: then when he was in that TV movie as the

892
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: How Boy, I was like, no, like an absolute clown show.

893
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: We were talking Jordan's was such a such a dork too.

894
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: It was a dork for basketball, yeah, but he was

895
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: like a dork one that part where you get to

896
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: see him listening to music before the game and he's

897
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: like dancing, and like I went and listened to the

898
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: Kenny Lattimar music that he was dancing too, and it's

899
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: just like yeah, and it's just like real like soft

900
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: rock like ship you would hear on like a smooth

901
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: jazz like stations just so whack. We talked about this

902
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: a little bit before uh and last night too, But

903
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: I I so a lot of this information is like

904
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: I know the general beats, but I was really little

905
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: when this happened, so I don't know, like the little

906
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: stuff like the flu game. I was not aware of that.

907
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a thing. And so when

908
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: that came up in episode nine and they were like,

909
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're talking about a pizza and

910
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: it's like the most serious ship in the entire world,

911
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I was so confused. It is so

912
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: funny rewatching that even knowing what happens, because you're like, okay,

913
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: that's fine. Everything was fine, but like it gets so solemn,

914
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: the music changes, whatever. One of those guys is like

915
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: five guys one pizza. It just didn't feel right. You're like,

916
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? It is? It was never

917
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: explain what they're implying. Like I knew it could take

918
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: I knew it wouldn't take five people to deliver one pizza,

919
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: and sure enough he got deathly ill. They were just

920
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: about like the fans, the number of people that came

921
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: with the pizza have nothing to do with it was

922
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: just really and the fact that like canonically Michael Jordan's

923
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: in a room with four other people at one AM

924
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: and eats a whole pizza by himself. There should have

925
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: been multiple people who got sick from that pizza, But

926
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: my journey I was like, not on my watch, I'm

927
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: gonna eat a whole pizza at one It was was

928
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: one of the things that was one of the things

929
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: that we learned or I've talked before on this podcast

930
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: about like stories where he goes out and like drinks

931
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: a case of beer with Jeremy Roenick on the golf

932
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: course and then goes out and like puts up fifty

933
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: on the calves that night. It's just incidentally in here

934
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: where before one of the games in the very series

935
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: where people are like, oh my god, I can't believe

936
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: that he got sick, where he is like doing a

937
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: shoot around and it's like, yeah, I just had a

938
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: couple of beers and a cigar, Like that's how he

939
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: got ready for a shoot around in the finals. In

940
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. He has like an unnatural like somebody

941
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: talked about how he has like this insane metabolism and

942
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: I feel like that's on display, like he can just

943
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: like treat his body like a garbage dumpster and it

944
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: just has unending reserves of ent or it's aspirational. Really

945
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: is great. For sure, they say what they accused that

946
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: pizza someone uh messing with it to taint it. I mean,

947
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: they don't say that outright, but it's implied, like they

948
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: heavily they interviewed Michael his that trainer, and then that

949
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: who's that one guy who keeps saying it's his best friend.

950
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: It's a personal assistant slash best friend. I don't know

951
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: the guy he hired to be his best friends. And

952
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: they're like, well, you know, and and they're using this

953
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: incusatory tone which they're talking about something that would be

954
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: a felony, Like you can look up what pizza place

955
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: that was, You could look up who delivered the pizza. Probably,

956
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: Like that's not a small thing to throw out in

957
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: a documentary when here's the reality. Michael Jordan's diet for

958
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: that day was probably some donuts, four cigars, a bottle

959
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: of scotch, a few beers, and an entire pizza eating

960
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: at one am. He's got a man, my stomach, my

961
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: stomach start hurt, and I knew they had to have

962
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: tampered with it. There's there's no other reason why eating

963
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: the pizza in the wee hours of the morning, an

964
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: entire pizza by yourself wouldn't And that's all I needed.

965
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: That's why I went to the city and I've burned

966
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: it to the ground, because that's where the pizza was invented.

967
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: I love I really, I really liked this documentary. But

968
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: it's like I would love to see the same version

969
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: of events of this documentary if Michael Jordans were not

970
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: deeply involved, and if everyone weren't clearly afraid of Michael

971
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: Jordan's like because yeah, yeah, yeah, because I mean everyone

972
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: has been comparing this to the o J doc, which

973
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: is not really fair. Uh but but there is not

974
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: just for the doc really, but but but it is

975
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: like you can feel, especially in the way that some

976
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: of the journalists talk there, what was that line that

977
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: it was just like it was just cringe e. He

978
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: was like, no, he didn't touch that guy, Like that

979
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: wasn't a foul. It was a major dep bringing you

980
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: to your table and you're like, shot the funk up?

981
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? The push off of Byron. Yeah.

982
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing also that that leaves out

983
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: is that basketball, like refereeing basketball, is all about what

984
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: it looks like. And that looked like a push off,

985
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: So like in normal circumstances, that would have been called

986
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: a push off. But I don't know what that is.

987
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: I just know it that calling it a major d

988
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: guiding you to your table, it is bullshit. I forget who.

989
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: I have a question how when did? Okay, this is

990
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: something I observed over my time watching observing basketball. I

991
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: don't watch it, I observe it. Um, it seems the

992
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: better player you are and the more respected you are,

993
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: you're it's totally okay to travel. Yeah, okay, okay, there

994
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: are rules for the stars and the rules for other people.

995
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: Because it looks like Jordan had a few moments where yes,

996
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about, because he's constantly on shack

997
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: to a fool traveling and I'm like okay, with both

998
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: hands on it, with everyone around him doing the whole

999
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: reaction like what did you just see that? And I'm

1000
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: doing the same thing at home, like oh it's cool,

1001
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh you can. If you're that great, you could walk

1002
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: this ball through this car and everyone's like, well, he's

1003
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: Jordan's for for life there that yeah, nothing else about

1004
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: life from well and it just takes me back to

1005
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: John Hammond thirty Rock, the really beautiful doctor. So he

1006
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: didn't even know what he was doing, but he was

1007
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: in the bubble. He had a handsome bubble and didn't

1008
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: know what real what the real world was like. One

1009
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: of the most fascinating things about Michael something this documentary

1010
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: tries to hide, which is that he is a nerd

1011
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: in a jock's body. Would you hear him trying to

1012
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: like just have conversations with people and trying to relate

1013
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: to people. It doesn't surprise me at all that his

1014
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: only friends are like his dad and his security guards.

1015
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't when he tries to talk, like he just

1016
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: falls back on the same kind of like fake trash

1017
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: talk or whatever I got, I will get you next time.

1018
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: You get a sense of he was having a real

1019
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody that he wouldn't know what to say

1020
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: because he doesn't. He's a nerd. He's a basketball nerd.

1021
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: He's a door. His his pace or not the in

1022
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: line with other people's. He doesn't know how to dress himself.

1023
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: He's just it's just he happens to look like Michael Jordan's. Yeah,

1024
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with I think Dennis Robin is

1025
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: a genius, but because of the outward stuff, you don't

1026
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: recognize him as a genius. It's like we judge people

1027
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: on appearances, Like, no, he has a basketball genius. He

1028
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: he has figured out basketball in a way that another

1029
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: genius would have figured out like germs or molecules or whatever. Yeah. Yeah,

1030
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: that was one of the like they're they're very interesting

1031
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 1: characters that just get kind of glossed over in this.

1032
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: I think Rodman being like, he doesn't get glossed over,

1033
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: but I mean he's probably like you leave the documentary,

1034
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: I think most people thinking he's probably more interesting than

1035
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's. I agree with that. I'm a huge Dennis head.

1036
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: I was going to make a video of to the

1037
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: like the Leave Brittany Alone as the leave Dennis Alone

1038
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: because they're so hard on him and it always you know, actually,

1039
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: on the ethnically Ambiguous episode that Drop Today, we talk

1040
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot about how because these are black men, they

1041
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: are always held to a higher standard of how they

1042
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: are supposed to act, and no matter what they do,

1043
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: it overshadows the fact that they actually are these incredibly

1044
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: gifted athletes. Like Rodman came in and he delivered in

1045
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: every game, regardless of where he was or who he

1046
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: was partying with. But like, no one can look past

1047
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: that because it's like, well, you know, there's a lot Yeah,

1048
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: there's just always a higher standard when you're a person

1049
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: of color that you have to meet in order to

1050
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 1: get that sort of respect. Well, I think you also

1051
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: had a whole bunch of toxic masculinity going against him

1052
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: as well, Like, yeah, a lot of the other ways.

1053
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: He's like there were many levels at which people were

1054
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: finding ways to like fault him when you know, I

1055
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: think if you if you if Dennis Rodman like a

1056
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: rookie this or you know, a year ago or something,

1057
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: and we're starting to see this evolution like man's cool.

1058
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Speaker 1: This guy's an interesting guy. He's a cool guy. There's

1059
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: someone with a chair was so was what a treat

1060
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: he had to do that wrestling start to say he

1061
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: had to he had to that's essential work. There's like

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01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: coded language that in sports. It even comes up in

1063
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: this in that episode or in this last episode that

1064
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: was on where when it's a white player, there's all

1065
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: this like, why so scrappy, he's a he's a gym rat.

1066
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: He's like he's Steve Hark's like, well, yeah, he's hard.

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01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: You can tell he worked for everything he ever did.

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01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: You did not hear that applying to Dennis Robin. Dennis Robin,

1069
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: it's like or any of the like Scottie Pittms like

1070
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: grew up in the hood, escape getting shot, used his

1071
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: natural basketball gifts to escape the hood. Like there's none

1072
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Speaker 1: of the talk of how hard Dennis Robin worked, because

1073
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he worked out more than anybody else

1074
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Speaker 1: on that were probably any two of them put together.

1075
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Speaker 1: But with the little white guy, it's always, well, you know,

1076
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: he he earned everything. You know, he's a scrappy, scrappy

1077
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: Jim rat, you know, going up to those those brothers,

1078
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, because who knows what kind of eugenic stuff

1079
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: was going on back in period. It's like, what the

1080
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: fund are you trying to imply? It all goes back

1081
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: to like man dingo other eyes, like the horsepower on

1082
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: these men kind of. But yeah, it is frustrating to

1083
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: hear yet the same thing in football when there's a

1084
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: black quarterback and it's like, well, will he will be

1085
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: more of a Warren Moon or a Michael Vick. It's like, well,

1086
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: Kenny Joe Montana. It's like they and I don't even

1087
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: know if they notice themselves doing it, but it's that

1088
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: this documentary didn't like to talk a lot about because again,

1089
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: this the stuff happened during the I mean the l

1090
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: A Rodney King Ryot's like, this was the nineties. This

1091
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: was flashpoint for a lot of these issues, and that

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01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: Michael whole thing was like, no, I'm not I'm just

1093
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: not going to be that guy. But I don't know.

1094
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: I know that nobody wants to watch a whole episode

1095
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: dedicated to that stuff, but I would we talk. We

1096
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: brought that up, and I think it would be interesting

1097
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: to see someone like Michael with his outsized figure and

1098
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: you know how important he is to the culture to

1099
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: even hear somebody wrestle with that of saying like that

1100
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: puts me. I have a choice to make. If I

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01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: speak my mind, I will most likely completely like evaporate

1102
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: everything I've accomplished from a financial aspect. Professionally. I don't know,

1103
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: maybe my game is too good for somebody to bench me,

1104
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: but I know there will be problems if I open

1105
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: my mouth and it. I would love to hear a

1106
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: very honest conversation about that with him magic a lot

1107
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: of the people involved, just because I think that's important

1108
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: for people to hear, because I think on certain levels,

1109
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: people have moments where they're like, should I speak out?

1110
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: And you start weighing what the risks are, and sometimes

1111
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: you're like, that was actually a good call. This person

1112
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: actually didn't end up being worthy of my defense. Or

1113
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: you might say you might feel deeply guilty about it

1114
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: and say, oh my god, I could have I may

1115
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: have been able to do something that would have changed

1116
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: the outcome, whether that's for us on our level of

1117
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: maybe I could have helped somebody out on a personal level,

1118
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: or Michael Jordan be like, what could I have done societally?

1119
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a very very nourishing conversation to witness

1120
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: and for people to begin the process because we were

1121
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: living in an age of where we're having to figure

1122
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: out if it's worth speaking our minds or or rather

1123
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: we just want to keep it low and keep you know,

1124
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: not have too much turbulence and you know, uh thrive

1125
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: that way. It's it's it's interesting. Yeah, I was curious

1126
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: as so, Like, I mean, I felt like in general,

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01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: the documentary didn't didn't give Dennis Rodman a really fair

1128
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I mean, I know it's not

1129
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: about him, but it didn't. It's seemed to glaze over

1130
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the Dennis Robbin stuff in a way

1131
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: that like it warranted further discussion, And I wonder, I'm like,

1132
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: who is the person making the call to not explore

1133
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what what you're both talking about? Because

1134
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: it fits into the story perfectly, there's space for it.

1135
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: There's a space for an entire episode of discussion. But

1136
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: is it is it that Michael doesn't want to have

1137
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: that discussion? Like at what point in the production where

1138
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: they like, oh, this would because it's clear that, like

1139
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: as a network, ESPN has wanted to have that discussion.

1140
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: We saw that in the oj documentary. But it just

1141
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was just curious of like where did

1142
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: that stop? Where did they say we're going to go

1143
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: up to here and then for whatever reason, we're not

1144
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: going to go any further and just make it a

1145
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: whatever twenty second segment. Well, I I feel like Jordan's

1146
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: from the start has made it very clear that he

1147
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: doesn't like discussing the politics of certain things. You know,

1148
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: Like it's all very like keep it to the basketball,

1149
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: keep it to the game, keep your head in the game. Yeah,

1150
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: keep it to the show. Consumers Republicans buy shoes too,

1151
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: like he likes to keep bit. I mean, and that's

1152
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, that's a problem with the whole situation as well,

1153
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Like he never felt comfortable to step out a line either,

1154
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: because that's right, that was his reputation power. That's also

1155
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: the power of white supremacy because you're you're a man

1156
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: of color, you are all all. We have our examples

1157
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: of how bad ship goes when you want to call

1158
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: out white supremacy. So and again, I think these are

1159
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: these are such interesting conversations, especially here Michael Jordan's talk

1160
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: about it. I think, you know, yeah, maybe they maybe

1161
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: need that Dennis Robin spinoff or whatever. But yeah, there's

1162
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: a lot. But I get to like, yeah, but sports

1163
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: are an escape. But I think that's a calculated risk

1164
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: they make. Is like when you start getting into things

1165
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: about you know, not every everyone wants to talk about

1166
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and the bulls in that run. Everyone loves

1167
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: it clearly by this, Now does everybody want to have

1168
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: a really deep, nuanced conversation about, you know, the hegemonic

1169
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: power of white supremacy and in sports and our culture

1170
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: and what their leaves are greatest heroes and their decision

1171
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: make I see that's where we're like, this isn't well man,

1172
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: Maybe we can do that a few years down the road.

1173
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: But I think that's probably what the risk, or at

1174
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: least what they were calculated, their calculus was even talking

1175
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: about like Scottie Pippen's upbringing and almost framing it like

1176
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: it's this Charles Dickens story where it's like wow, in

1177
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: one bedroom house with thirteen kids and three of them

1178
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: were paralyzed, and it's like okay because they and they

1179
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: put that in because it informs his decision later to

1180
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: take a tiny contract that is a fraction of what

1181
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: he was worth because he was setting the money back home.

1182
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: There's a huge there's huge implications there in terms of

1183
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: how he had to live his life based on where

1184
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: he was from and why the place he was from

1185
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: was like that you kind of like it just becomes

1186
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: like storybook well inspirational, and you still see this in

1187
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: like draft guides like, you know, grew up under tough circumstances.

1188
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: You know, father was killed in prison when he was thirteen.

1189
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, let's talk about that, because you now

1190
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: want to immediately switch back to the sports. But the

1191
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: whole point of a ten part documentary is we're going

1192
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: to go off the court. We're gonna go behind the

1193
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: scenes and show the real people. And it really makes

1194
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: him tick. And you spent so much of it on

1195
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: the practice court and on the bus, and it's like, man,

1196
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: every decision Scotty had to make everything about his attitude,

1197
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: about the way he talks to authority, figures is informed

1198
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: by where he's from. And he's a fascinating person because

1199
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: there's all these conflicts because he knows he's he's great.

1200
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Did not want to overshadow. Michael was playing with someone

1201
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: who knew that if he felt threatened by him for

1202
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: one second, he would just destroy him. Scotty had to

1203
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: balance this in a way that Michael didn't, you know.

1204
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: And obviously Michael's father was killed as a tragedy, but

1205
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: the support, you know, from his family and everything, and

1206
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: the same thing with Dennis. Dennis Robbin was almost for

1207
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: two years of high school and just get stumbled onto

1208
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: a basketball court and now it's like, oh, it's all

1209
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: pure scenes and Kim Jong wound and hair dye. It's like, man,

1210
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: everything that he did was informed by where he was raised,

1211
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: and where he was raised is like that for a reason.

1212
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: And you could say, well, but that's too big of

1213
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: a subject to get into on a basketball doc. But

1214
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's I thought the whole point was

1215
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: like talking about what a cultural phenomenon he was and

1216
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: this team was and how it extended beyond sports and

1217
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: extended beyond America. Okay, well can we talk about this

1218
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: other stuff too instead of just it's like something that's

1219
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: kind of mentioned in passing. I feel like we have

1220
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: a very thorough understanding of how Michael Jordan's sees everything,

1221
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: Like that's what the documentary gave us, or how Michael

1222
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: Jordan wants people to see everything. Um, but that's that's it. Uh,

1223
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: But any think that's and but I think that that's

1224
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 1: the thing everyone wanted to though, based on everyone tuning

1225
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: in weekend week out, just there was like there was

1226
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: something about that getting into the head of somebody that people,

1227
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: you know, most people who were growing up in the

1228
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties probably had a poster of or some

1229
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: kind of bulls something. Um. Yeah, So I think there's

1230
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: just very deep nostalgia for a time when, uh, that

1231
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: seemed simpler, and I think I think was was probably

1232
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: simpler for a lot of people when our parents had

1233
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: really good jobs in the nineties. Can I just say

1234
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: one thing I really the one thing I really respect

1235
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: about Jordan, and I've texted you guys about this over

1236
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, is what an open crier he is. Um.

1237
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: I love that, considering he's in a sport and and

1238
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,440
Speaker 1: he came from an era that was surrounded by toxic masculinity,

1239
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: and to have that much emotion and to be so

1240
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: open about it, like that scene with him lying on

1241
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 1: the ground bawling with the basketball after having won a

1242
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: championship like that and you know, crying Jordan's meme all that.

1243
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's very open with his emotions, and I

1244
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: think that's kind of amazing like that. There's so many

1245
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: layers to him in a way where you're like, Okay,

1246
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: you know, he's this very fierce competitor, but I love

1247
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: I love how much he is just down to Like

1248
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna say ball like ball in both ways,

1249
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, like you. But you know, you know, some

1250
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: some poor asshole made the mistake of trying to fucking

1251
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: sun him over crying. I can only imagine what Michael

1252
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: Jordan would respond to some people like, Hey, Mike, you crying,

1253
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: bro like that? And then yeah, he died of a

1254
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: mysterious poisoning about eighteen months later, So I was crying. Now.

1255
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if we found out the crying

1256
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: meme was actually he was behind. He's like, oh, you're

1257
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: gonna make fun of me crying. That's all we needed.

1258
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm a meme that you will never forget. Oh

1259
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: my god, Jason, it's been a pleasure having you on

1260
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: the daily zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you?

1261
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: I have my day job, so I'm writing books full

1262
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: time now, so I'm going to take this opportunity to say,

1263
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: just find me wherever they sell books. The one you

1264
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: can preorder now is called Zoe Punches the Future and

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Speaker 1: the Dick Uh. It is a sci fi novel. In

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Speaker 1: the tone of it is conveyed by that title. Please

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Speaker 1: go to your local bookstores. They are desperately struggling, called

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Speaker 1: them up on the phone and say, I want to

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Speaker 1: preorder it if you want to avoid Amazon understand if

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Speaker 1: you cannot afford books. Uh, that then I'm just screwed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 1: I picked the wrong time to do this. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some other work of social

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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yeah, and I don't. I guess

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Speaker 1: you probably cannot play the audio from it. But Steve

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Speaker 1: Martin comedy legends. Steve Martin his Twitter is mostly him

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Speaker 1: playing the banjo for like twenty seconds at a time,

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Speaker 1: and he is uh an expert banjo player, and it's

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Speaker 1: I've gotten more come from his banjo playing than a

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Speaker 1: million tweets dunking on the virus um. But yeah, if

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Speaker 1: if it's I don't know what the licensing issues would

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Speaker 1: be with actually playing it. If you can, please do

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Speaker 1: If not, I would encourage people. And as I'm speaking,

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Speaker 1: that occurs to me some of your fans are too

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Speaker 1: young to know who Steve Martin is or to care

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Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, he's a genius. Uh. If you don't,

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Speaker 1: which I think people know, But if you don't, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we also Cheaper by the Dozen very briefly, what year

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Speaker 1: to Cheaper by the Dozen come out? Three? Okay, some

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Speaker 1: of your listeners were too young to have watched that

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Speaker 1: movie and to know about it. Find time marches on

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Speaker 1: and it will eventually murder us all gang and I

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Speaker 1: really wish we could end on that quote. But Jamie,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you and follow you? I you

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Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter dot com at Jamie Loftus

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Speaker 1: help on Instagram at Jamie christ Superstar. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: shout out a tweet that approximately five hundred people tagged

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Speaker 1: me in. Uh it's the Chuck E Cheese thing, you

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Speaker 1: know what. I just like at this point, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: the these these these dweeps. Okay, not the people tagging

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Speaker 1: me in it, the people that are giving second hand

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Speaker 1: Chucky Cheese news weeks later and get it and then

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Speaker 1: taking credit for breaking the story. Anyways, this makes me

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Speaker 1: so mad. Okay, So there the tweet is. Yesterday I

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Speaker 1: found out that Chuck E Cheese realized people didn't want

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Speaker 1: to order take out from Chucky Cheese, so they changed

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Speaker 1: their info on grub hub apps to Pisqually's Pizza and

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Speaker 1: tricked a bunch of people into ordering Chuck e Cheese

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Speaker 1: because Pisqually is one of the characters in the band. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of factual inaccuracies with this attention grabby tweet. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He says. Most importantly is yesterday I found out, but

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Speaker 1: it happened months ago. And uh and and you know what,

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Speaker 1: they changed the name to Pasquali's Pizza. So what, like

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Speaker 1: my stance is you expose the scam, You made the

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Speaker 1: scam go viral. Now they've got to find another scam.

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Speaker 1: They gotta start calling it like Jasper's House of Fine

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Speaker 1: Italian Cuisine. It's not fair. Let let Chucky get his

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Speaker 1: Stop putting Chucky on black like that hash hashtag let

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Speaker 1: Chucky get his ridiculous But everyone thanks to everyone who

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Speaker 1: tagged me in it. Well, I would love now is

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Speaker 1: if like food Twitter would pick up like what great

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Speaker 1: pizza this iss? Like, man, what did I never know

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Speaker 1: about this pizza chain? Apparently they've got like eight hundred locations.

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Speaker 1: It's great because they just don't know that it's chucking.

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Speaker 1: They're the people that were fooled into anyway. That's on

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Speaker 1: them for not knowing Chucky canon Pasqually. That's a Dead Giveaway,

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Speaker 1: Miles Can People Find You? Follow you, Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network,

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Speaker 1: Miles of Gray, and also my other podcast, four twenty

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Speaker 1: Day Fiance episodes come out Wednesday. Talking about some tweets

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Speaker 1: that I like. First one is from Lauren Davis at

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Speaker 1: Lauren Davis says Twitter is bleeding into the local graffiti

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Speaker 1: and it's a photo of a piece of broken concrete

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Speaker 1: with blue spray paint that says Elon is space Karen,

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Speaker 1: which is wonderful thing. Another one, this is from at

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Speaker 1: uh carro x x and x. Interesting, her display name

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Speaker 1: not carro So apparently this woman is pregnant and there

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Speaker 1: was a photo of her that some other Twitter user tweeted.

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Speaker 1: So some other person tweeted the photo of this one

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Speaker 1: pregnant said imagine looking like this with like laughing tears,

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Speaker 1: and then she replies, I'm literally eight months pregnant. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you expect me to look like. Still

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Speaker 1: get my ass eight though, so I guess I'm doing

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Speaker 1: something right. Just a powerful clap back. Another one is

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Speaker 1: from past guest The Clark Jones at The Clark Jones

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite Lebron three peat tweet? Interesting one, yep,

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Speaker 1: and Dana Donnalley. Finally, at Dana donn Lee says, people

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Speaker 1: who are out at bars right now like coronas a hoax,

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Speaker 1: You're all stupid snowflake sheet baby pussies. Honey. I hope

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Speaker 1: you're right. I hope two weeks from now, I'm also

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Speaker 1: at the bar, like, Wow, it looks like I was

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Speaker 1: being a stupid snowflake sheet baby pussy. I guess we'll see, uh,

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Speaker 1: super producer around Hosny. Where can people find you? Follow you?

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Speaker 1: I'm at Anna HOSTI on Twitter. Um. Also, if you

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Speaker 1: want to check out my podcast, I host to one

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Speaker 1: called Ethnically Ambiguous about being a person of color in America.

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Speaker 1: Is today's episode or I guess, excuse me, yesterday's episode?

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Speaker 1: We talk? Oh? I mean I go on a tangent

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Speaker 1: about my Dennis Rodman love. Uh. And then I also

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Speaker 1: host a show about below deck the reality TV show

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Speaker 1: called deck Heads with Nick Turner and boy it's getting juicy, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I recommend it. And I have some tweets, can I explore? Yes? Okay,

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Speaker 1: this one's from Rob Perez from world Wide WOB and

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Speaker 1: you're it's all Jordan's because I was on Twitter last night,

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Speaker 1: so it's all last uh. Hero in a in a

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Speaker 1: forty eight hour span, Dennis Roden played hooky to no consequence,

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Speaker 1: whoop d dps as on Nitro, made the game clinching

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Speaker 1: free throws in a finals game, and then went home

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Speaker 1: with Carmen Electra. This hot streak may never be conquered.

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Speaker 1: Um uh. And then there's this another one from Melkou

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Speaker 1: Black at O G mellow Uh. It just says, you know,

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Speaker 1: when it's like people talking, says nobody and then there's

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Speaker 1: nothing there. And then Michael Jordan's so I took it personal?

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Speaker 1: That was pretty spot on. And here's another one about

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Speaker 1: Rodman from at Dragonfly Jones. Rodman went a wall on

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Speaker 1: m J and the nineties bulls because he had to

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Speaker 1: go join the n W Oh, if you're not a

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Speaker 1: certain age. Um, if you're not a certain age, I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can really wrap your head around how

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Speaker 1: that's the coolest sentence you could have possibly put together

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Speaker 1: in nineteen And then my the final one is the

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Speaker 1: one I sent you guys last night, which someone tweeted um.

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Speaker 1: The picture of the four Ghanaian Paul Bears from the

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Speaker 1: Paul Bears from the funeral and someone tweeted the pizza

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Speaker 1: delivery guys in Utah is the four and Paul Bearers

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Speaker 1: ready to kill to walk your ass to the great

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Speaker 1: That's okay, Yeah, I liked Jesus nice is tweet. Next Sunday,

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Speaker 1: just give us two hours of Jordan watching viral videos

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Speaker 1: on that iPad and reacting. Watch a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter, Jack Underscore O'Brien. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at daily Zey Guys. We're

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeit Geys on Instagram. We have a

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Speaker 1: Facebook pam page and a website Daily zy Guys dot

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Speaker 1: com where we post our episodes and our foot notes

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Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked

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Speaker 1: about in today's episode, as well as the song we

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Speaker 1: ride out on Miles What are we riding out on?

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Speaker 1: Just something that feels big and epic and soothing at

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Speaker 1: the same time, and that is a track called Official

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Speaker 1: by the band Junip And if you like Jose Gonzalez,

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Speaker 1: the singer songwriter, that's his band um and this track

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Speaker 1: Official is just great like it gives you. It's got

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Speaker 1: a nice beat to it, but there's some nice acoustic

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Speaker 1: guitar picking and the lyrics are really great. Um and

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Speaker 1: you know, just just something to pretend you're on a

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Speaker 1: horse riding the beast distances. I'm playing a lot of

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Speaker 1: red Dead Redemption right now, so that's I got horse played.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it would be it would surprise a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in the Old West if somebody just

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Speaker 1: rolled up on a horse picking from Jose Gonzalez music

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Speaker 1: on there on their Wait wait what what was that?

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Speaker 1: Gold on? Hold Up? Hold Up? Hold On. The Daily

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Speaker 1: Ze Guys is a production of My Heart Radio. For

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Speaker 1: shows that is going to do it where this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you that night. Night's cold, It's cold.