WEBVTT - With Great Bars Come Great Responsibility 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.160 My check. You're listening to Waiting on Reparations, a production 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:19.439 of My Heart Radio Waiting a reparation dope do but 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.080 when they can just calling them George Curry, but they 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:25.000 hintend and Bern Nickinson's jail judge there and then that beat. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.000 He's raking in a whale ton of money. But are 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.120 they're taking the golden girls about your lot? But you 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.520 feel like y'all sucking hearing me? Have I said it wrong? 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.120 On the CIA and the cops and the Pentagon. I 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:35.960 don't give a fuck. Make the RAI their money with 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.880 the cover thought the racism that makes them sick of 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.240 sentences and set them off, putting setting up for keeping 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.680 up people houses shot wouldn't allowments and eno parching all 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.840 the kitchen bridges, kicking stock. You don't have to send 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.840 the don key, putting them prison locked. I really don't 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.559 understand what makes this decision high. I was know when 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:51.559 they didn't give a funk about my black life back 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.840 when you was playing Half life. A baby in the 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.680 world was the way of baptized. The scarboard felt, but 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.480 it made me mad. Night story, move forward me if 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.960 you cruise corny and I'm too sorry. Plus I'll leave 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.520 your coo groory. I'm a true boy. He's boy. Please, 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.880 ain't afraid of no harm the funk. They're gonna dude, 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:08.880 shoot me while I'm am which that I could do 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.200 like ballads disappear on the farm. Then I hear a 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.679 sound guy and someone rings the alarm and I'm back 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.840 in it. I can't help you in a damn synic. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.240 His damn planet got a lot of fucking whacking it. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.520 I don't need no cash, so SiO path, what see 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.240 no stack of mostly smoke cash boy green, the no 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.600 po stash with the same brick used to whip Deebo's ash. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:34.560 Yo Yo, my name's dope knife. We are waiting on reparations. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.400 How are you doing, Mac, I've been good. Another week 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.160 in Corona Land, been productive. You know. My comic book 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.160 is almost getting that But now I get to see it. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.800 You're the one that I'm nervous about seeing it. Why 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.320 I want to see it? Okay, I mean, I'm gonna 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.880 let you see it. I've been I've shared it with 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.720 a few people and they're digging where it's at. Show 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.120 me It's like it's not it's not finished, but it's 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.360 gotten there so care, show me how was your week. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.440 I think it's been fine. I mean trying to try 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.480 to pivot politically having been defeated and defunding the police. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.280 I heard about that. So your proposal got voted down, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.959 and uh so, I mean it's really funny because I 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.079 saw one of my talking to my friends about like 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.119 task forces and how like they're this like unique kind 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:31.720 of bureaucratic nightmare where so many good ideas go to 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.680 task force to die, and that is the level of groveling. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.519 I think sometimes they even task force to kind of 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:45.560 play dying to give you a task force. Yeah, and 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.119 so I'm shifting to like, okay, maybe holding out hope, 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.560 but I think you can get some really dope people 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.880 on this task force who are like abolitionists or like 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.200 down to the police. Well, I mean it's okay, So 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.720 explain because to a cat like me, it's like you 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.320 know you hear free is like, ay, we're setting up 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.959 a task force. We're going to discuss these issues like 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.320 what does that mean in real life? Like and not 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.400 like political speak, like what does the task force actually 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.680 do when they set it up? So like they're given 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:18.440 some things to think about, like some goals, Like hey, 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.520 figure out these things and they kind of just shove 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.359 them in a broom closet together, lights off, and then um, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.160 all the people with like really entrenched like institutional power 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:33.919 shout over everyone. That is like normal and good. And 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.720 especially if you know this task force, you know, being 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.560 tasked with addressing community building in public safety. If a 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.480 bunch of cops are on there just like scripping their guns, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.840 that like formerly incarcerated people trying to tell their stories 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.560 of how they've been harmed by like the police. Yeah, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.800 so that's gonna be really great. That's what that's gonna be. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.480 Unless we can get people out here in these streets 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.440 still believing that we can still win something. Seven if 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.560 we lost a lot of what we wanted. That doesn't 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.760 sound like good environment where you can get test them exactly. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.480 I mean something you're not are you not hopeful? I 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.480 Mean what I've seen lately is that like public pressure 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.440 campaigns just make elected officials really nervous and they kind 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.040 of like may tuck their tail between their legs and 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.520 like scurry to a corner angrily and like raise their 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.080 hackles at you. If you just demand what you want 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.600 in mass which is what has been happening, and so um, 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.600 I don't know where to go from here. And that's 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.600 the only tactic I am aware of. Its people in 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.440 the streets, like and then then these people just run away. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.640 I think the next step is like because I mean, 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.320 surely the people in the streets wasn't gonna last forever. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.000 But at the same time, I think if you if 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.080 it can kind of be harnessed. I'm not saying this 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.160 is even kind of over. I'm not to be in 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.160 these streets, goddamn. Oh no, no, I mean, I'm not 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.400 saying it's over, but you know, it's definitely not a 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.520 month ago. It's definitely not a month ago. Hopefully that 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.520 you guys can can get some of those don't want 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.000 to talk about it. I'm sound, I don't want to 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.240 to talk about it. Yeah, you even took a whole 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.240 bottle of moscado to the dome. So I didn't say nothing. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.440 I was just I'm just saying I felt your pain. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:25.000 I had the news on all weekend in the background 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.599 while I was drawn. So I've been seeing this nigga. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:32.680 Trump just suffer implosions right before our very eyes, which 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.520 I mean, I just mean the total thing. Obviously, it's 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.120 still like four or five months out from the election, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:44.480 so anything can happen. But my god, as somebody who's 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.800 been just an observer of like political theater for a 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:52.600 long time, Nigga is doing pretty bad at it. I mean, yeah, 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.040 e they're talking about his white power hissy fit the 0:05:55.120 --> 0:06:02.680 other day. There's mild to streal strength treason. This just 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:16.679 the ship show. So last week we were talking about 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.160 the j Cole and No Name situation, which more or 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.520 less had to do with artists using their platform and 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.440 voice to speak on the current situation ahead, and that 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.280 started off a you know, further conversation that we had 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.640 off of the mic as to whether or not artists 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.720 have an inherent responsibility to use their voice and to 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.960 use their art in their platform to speak out about 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.720 you know, our troubled times as they are, as well 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.440 as just like what there what their participation in various 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.160 forms of like activism means, and like look at some 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.440 of the different ways people are engaging the present moment. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.640 We wanted to start off by asking some folks on 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.520 Instagram are artists responsible for using their plat forms to 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:06.960 amplify social movements in times like these? Gone terrific says Yes, absolutely, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.720 artists are tuned in people who know what's going on 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.440 in the world. If they're using social media to communicate, 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.760 that's not a one sided act. Most people know what 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.840 side they're on. Good point. So if they're not saying anything, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.880 that's saying something. Yeah, no, I can agree with that. Um. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.240 I've actually seen a couple of situations where people have 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.560 commented a man, I've been waiting like weeks for the 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.200 artists that I like to say something, and they they're 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.040 like posted their posting about other ship and I was 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.120 just like, it's like, damn, that was a really hard 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.000 unfollowed because now I know where they stay. It's like, 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:45.120 don't go putting motherfucker's on a pedestal. Always love music 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.960 says only if the artist truly believes in the movement. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.320 It's honestly frustrating watching people post, slash repost things if 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.360 they're not actually doing the work themselves. By work, I 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.800 mean educating both themselves and those around them outside the 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.720 social media bubble. Who cares if it's not part of 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.560 your actual dialogue in real life. I feel that too, though, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.320 I mean I would rather someone like and I guess 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:10.880 We'll get into this later in the show, like what 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:15.480 I think real solidarity looks like it is, but like, yeah, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:23.440 if you're faking it, fuck you, fuck you. Yeah. I mean, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.160 what's gonna be a recurring thing that I'm going to 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.760 say all episode is? In times like these, I think 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:33.160 authenticity is pretty important too. So on one hand, I 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.920 do understand, you know, that line of if your fans 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.040 or if people just in general see you not saying anything, 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.080 then they take your silence as a cue for where 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:47.120 you saying. I'm not wanting to stay silent and having 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.360 people think that you don't care that you're not you know, 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.400 I think that your position is something it isn't. But 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.880 at the same time, you know, I'm an artist too, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.360 and it is your art to make of it what 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.640 you want to. So if you don't feel like expressing that, hey, 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.920 that's on you. Like whether I agree with the message 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:12.319 or not, if the message isn't genuine, then it's just propaganda, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.760 not really a message. And I feel like this gets 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.680 into somewhat of something someone else said. Action brand owner 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:26.360 said mixed if they have the ability to convey the message, yes, no, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.959 because not all artists are created equal, but use the 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.400 word artists who loosely these days and expect those who 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.120 entertainers that have something viable to say. I think it 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.400 all comes down to people wanting to be entertained by 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.959 their favorite personality. Do I want talent police speaking on 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.959 current issues? Yes? Do I want Mike Tyson speaking on 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.200 current issues? The reason I think this is interesting Nina 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:50.240 Simone's voice amplify the movement and Cap Colagway's amplified the culture. 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.480 So some people really just shouldn't speak on should Maybe 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.960 I agree same, you know, if some people just really 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.720 shouldn't speak on should. You ever heard the Day Chappelle 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.959 stand up bit jaw Rule where he's watching like I 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.160 think MTV or something or the news or something after 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.400 nine eleven, and they're they're talking to jaw Rule and 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.600 he's thinking, damned, I really want to hear what jow 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:13.640 Rule has to say at a time like this. It's like, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:18.600 where's jaw I mean, I get that it's funny at 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.120 the same time, you know, just personally speaking, I gotta 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.280 admit that a lot of my political interests was unlocked 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.599 by listening to like Iced Tea and Ship when I 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.760 was a kid. So I do think that somebody here 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.839 in their favorite artists or favorite rapper what they you know, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.079 what they have to say about an important issue of 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.160 the day. I do think it kind of makes a 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.280 difference to be sappy with it. That kind of reminds 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.079 me of what event Tire said. He says, I think 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.640 artists are always responsible for that, though sometimes the movement 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.000 can be as simple as reminding people what joy feels like, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.280 which can be pretty radical. And I think especially in 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.319 like times like these, where people are facing such economic 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:02.800 austerity and like health concerns and just like real unsure 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.360 futures like it can be some welaboratory just to be 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.000 able to forget that for a little while. They should 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.000 as long as they know what they're talking about and 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.560 know how to effectively communicate the message. Recent releases from 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.640 people like Kimba or Morning a Black Star great, But 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.320 if you're going to give me another montage of celebrities 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.080 with a week let's dream of a better world bullshit, 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.280 get the funk out. And that I cannot agree more with. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.960 And I mean, if you look historically, like back during 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:35.199 the Civil rights era, like nine like, we can think 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.959 about some of the precursors and previous movements of like 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.120 black artists, like what their response has been as like 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.439 a precedent for where we are now. You still have 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.400 folks like Marvin Gay creating hits like What's going On 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.800 and slying the family Stone with songs like everyday people. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.679 They might not have like an explicit like policy thing 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.640 to it or anything, it still resonates as songs of 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.920 struggle all these decades later. I feel, how would you 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.719 described the difference between the art and the platform, Like 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.920 are those two different things? Are we just generally speaking 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.680 on the same because the art is like the music 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.439 and the songs and the music videos and stuff, and 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.559 then the platforms like uh, I just got taco ballot 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.559 for I am, but a thousand people still see that 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.120 even if it's not your art anymore. And so there's 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.000 the social media component to it. But I'd like to 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.719 talk a lot about I think I said earlier, like 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.600 solidarity and what it looks like because like there's a platform, 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.599 and then it's like, as a celebrity, what do you 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.440 do with your time and your money and like your 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.719 physical presence for people as well, because you have like 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.480 access to weird amounts of influence, but also like cash. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.920 Also you can do really interesting things with your time 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.000 to draw attention to these movements, and so like all 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:59.160 of those different ways of like engaging with them. So 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.880 let's talk the a bit about who's been out in 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.319 the streets, and I specifically when to talk about this 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.120 is I think one of the most important ways that 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.000 like artists can engage with the movement, because I mean 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.480 everyone has their part to play, from telling petitions to 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.120 like you know, amplifying messages on social media, to making 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.440 really large donations, which you can do with your famous 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.520 which I have different feelings about. But when you're putting 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.800 yourself in harm's way with the people, it's like really powerful. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.160 It's like really democratizing in a way because it puts 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.079 you on the same playing field as the people that 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.600 respect to you so much. Um, So you're no longer celebrity. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.559 You're just a regular person to any of the regular 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.800 people for justice. And I think that like that's the 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.599 hardest thing for people to do. Uh, And so like 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.160 showing up for the movement in that way, uh means 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.959 a lot for the people who are there, who are 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.679 you know, also doing the hardest work, and so um 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.080 it just means a lot to me when people actually 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.600 get out there, I agree to reiteray is like when 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.640 you have a platform and eyes are on you, you know, 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.920 it's just it just creates an opportunity for you to 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:10.040 bring awareness to issues that people generally wouldn't be able 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.760 to or wouldn't be open to paying attention to. Like 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.760 you use the example of going to Taco Bell. You 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.080 could have people know that you went to Taco Bell. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.320 So think if you were like using that to draw 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.120 attention to something that's importantly Yeah, you have a lot 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.320 of people were like posting about it. But then you 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.400 have the fact that like j Cole went to protest 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.560 in North Carolina and Faytteville and May thirtieth, but he 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:39.040 was spotted, he was spotted by folks um and then 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.400 he actually declined to speak on camera. And I think 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.440 that like that sort of presence especially, I mean, people 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.160 are gonna know you're there, You're fucking Jacole whatever. But 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.960 but like just making yourself one with with people and 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.920 it makes it it makes it not about you. Yeah, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.040 Like it's just a really humbling thing that I'd like 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.920 wish more people, dude not But also I've seen the 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:04.520 same thing you're saying of using like your presence to amplify, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.440 to like draw people into this sense of like, oh 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.720 I could be that could be me. I could be 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.120 out there. Well yeah, I mean the next person about 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:15.000 to mention California rapper YG just in terms of keeping 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.840 a low profile, he did the exact opposite, where he, 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.520 in collaboration with Black Lives Matter and Build Power, ended 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.440 up bringing tens of thousands of people to Hollywood Boulevard 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.640 and they were blasting his music and it was it 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.360 was all like a peaceful protest, but it did seem 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:30.800 like he was front and center of it, you know, 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.200 but into a position of leadership and these things exactly. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.440 You know, that sort of that fits his persona as 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.960 a as an artist. So that's authentic, you know. And 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.320 I feel like j Cole to like just show up 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.360 at a protest and not really be front center and 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.800 I'm not going to speak and just kind of be incognito. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.880 I think that fits his persona too. Yeah. Oh the 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:56.960 thing about YG though, I almost missed this, So he said, 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.280 they hear FTP and they think I'm gonna com and 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.320 burned my city. So we showed up and we did 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.600 it right, you proved them wrong. You're on this on Instagram. Um. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.560 But then later on Instagram he said, all of us 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.440 protesting on the same side here, instead of questioning each 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.480 other's active activism should be directing the energy of the 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.680 confident government and helping create change you want to see. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.400 So I just feel like those conflicting messages here. Yeah, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.200 I mean, I can see that. I mean, but although 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.200 I don't necessarily think that, you know, calling for a 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.840 unity amongst the activists and trying to direct anger towards 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.920 the government and the police is necessarily synonymous with let's 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.480 burn this ship down. Though that's not among protests none 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:42.040 at all. Um. Even Little Yadi was leading the peaceful 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.400 protests in Atlanta. He had as a bullhorn talking about 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.640 we gotta stand for something or will fall for anything, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.680 you know, doing a little thing. Hey, it's even even 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.280 rappers who aren't known for speaking about social change or 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.520 social justice or anything like that. The more of voices 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.920 on the subject, but better so brought vote a little Yadi. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:09.320 Oh and I saw a thread on Instagram via twenty 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:14.720 three year old Alabama rapper Chica Um. She posted some 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:19.359 Instagram stories and Instagram videos just documenting her experience in 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:24.080 one of the protests, she ended up getting arrested entertained. 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.560 I think her manager got locked up in in helping 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.280 or defending her managers. Yeah, we need celebrities getting arrested. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:34.159 That's what we need, the celebrities getting arrested, because you 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:35.760 know who's going to be fine and then get arrested. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.639 Fucking Beyonce beyonest, she'd be in jail right now and 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.880 everybody who's in the cell. Beyonce was gonna probably be fine. 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.479 To everybody in the I'll be fine. So yeah, now 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.160 we need more celebrities getting arrested. That's what we need 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.359 right now. I recently come to terms with my potential arrest. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:53.960 I was brought to my attention that I hadn't been 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.040 getting a permit for these caravans. I've been had it 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.920 and some city manager called me. It was just like yeah, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.600 permiant and you know it's organized by many people, so I, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.760 you know, did say I would pass the information on 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.119 to the organizers, but like it's not a protest. Did 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:10.879 you ask did you for did you forget or you 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:12.960 were just like oh no, I mean like I forgot, 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.960 but also like you don't ask for permission to happen, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.159 and so the cost might be less nice um in 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:25.280 future ones. But you know, the tactic, the tactics with 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.080 I shouldn't talk about it's not Yeah, okay, well it's 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.159 gonna be fine. It's all I want to say is 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.840 that it's gonna be fine. Are you mentally Have you 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.480 ever been arrested before? Yeah, I've been arrested before. Okay, alright, Yeah, 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.399 I would have my ship way more together this time. Yeah, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.080 I'm assuming that the last time it wasn't for any 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.080 day important. No, I was still in fucking boost. Yeah, 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.760 that's what I can steal an alcohol. Yeah, Shore when 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.720 I used to get arrested in high school for the 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.680 same reasons it was when I was living in Cameroon, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.080 which is why I haven't been arrested since I've been 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:02.920 living in the States as an adult, because it's like, 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.920 once you've been in a Cameroonian jail, you're good on 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:10.040 all that jail ship. On June seven, Kendrick Lamar was 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.280 protesting and Compton he kind of did the same thing 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.600 that j Cole did, where you know, he showed up 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.920 in cognito. Wasn't too much fanfare around. It didn't draw 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.880 too much attention to himself. Again, I like that. Yeah. 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.000 And then Kanye also showed up to a Chicago protest 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.080 on June four, but also he donated two million dollars 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.720 to support the family and legal teams of George Floyd, Brown, Taylor, 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.520 and Ahmad are very um. Some of the money donated 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.880 with food cover college tuition for George Floyd's six year 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:42.160 old daughter, Gianna. But I don't know how I feel 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:46.439 about kanye're doing anything. What are your initial what are 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.000 your initial feelings? Well, I feel like fucking money, Like 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:56.000 throwing your money around is like the least, Like charity 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:01.440 is a problem. Charity is like shouldn't exist, Like everybody 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.760 should just have all the stuff they need, like I 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.160 guess as a socialist, Like that's how I always feel. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.879 So like Kanye shouldn't have enough money that he can 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.119 give two million dollars someone because they're their dad got 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.560 murdered by police. Just have a world. People will get 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:20.560 murdered by police and everybody because we don't have the 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.240 crazy amount of wealth inequality we have his country. So anyway, 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.320 I just don't any money to charity, I feel you, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.480 But I mean the fact remains that we do have 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.439 a world where people have that much money? I mean, 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:38.040 what is Kanye doing to like to like redistribute his wealth. 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:39.880 I mean, we should do we should do a deep 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.320 dive and you know what, let's not get sidetracked because 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.920 we should probably do a deep dive into Kanye on 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.920 an episode the complicated politics of Kanye West or some ship. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.760 But I did want to look at, um, what Lebron 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:55.639 James is doing a little bit, And I mean, I 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.480 know he's an athlete, but I figured the hip hop 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.639 tie in is that for the last seventeen years, Lebron 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:06.080 James has had this almost symbiotic relationship with mainstream hip 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.280 hop and mainstream rappers. I mean, he's been referenced in 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:13.199 countless songs. He's fringe with a bunch of rappers. Uh. 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.840 He even executive produced to Chain's latest album. Nine times 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.119 out of ten, there's no mainstream rapper that we're not 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.400 we're going to talk about that doesn't have some sort 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.600 of connection to Lebron James. So that's the hip hop 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.320 tie in. But um, he's actually taking the initiative of 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:31.280 starting an organization called More Than a Vote. Per the 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.280 New York Times, he started the More than a Vote, 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.719 which was initially funded by James and his business manager, 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:42.679 Maverick Carter, while ESPN commentator Jalen Rose, as well as 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:47.080 current basketball stars Trey Young and Skylar Diggin Smith are 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:52.280 also involved in the organization. The nonprofit will team up 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.600 with voting rights groups to register black voters. James said 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.040 he will use his large social media following to draw 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:01.359 attentions to the efforts to suppress the vote in racial minorities. 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.359 James said the death of Floyd pushed them to consider 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.240 taking more action, and that was starting with Tuesday after 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.000 he saw the bullshit that went down with the Georgia 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:15.840 primary election. So with calls to voting, I mean, we 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.719 hope that we can circumvent another catastrophe like we had 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.879 in the Georgia primary when it comes to November. And 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.280