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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirks Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now, do you think that Chuck Schumer should step aside

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Speaker 2: now and let someone else leave Democrats in the Senate?

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Speaker 3: I think it would be better.

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Speaker 1: I think be better than the status quo. And I

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Speaker 1: hear this from Democrats.

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Speaker 3: All across Massachusetts everywhere I go.

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Speaker 4: They're hurting their own constituents. And yet should Chuck Schumer go?

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Speaker 4: And yet, yes, Chuck Schumer should go. I'm sorry to

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Speaker 4: say Chuck Schumer should go. I voted for him many times.

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Speaker 4: I am ideologically quite aligned with where he is as

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Speaker 4: a Senator. But he's no longer capable of running this caucus.

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Speaker 4: He's no longer capable of leaving the Democratic Party. What

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Speaker 4: is it?

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Speaker 5: The shift off what.

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Speaker 6: We have waged a battle on behalf of the American people.

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Speaker 6: First of all, Donald Trump and Republicans that have won,

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Speaker 6: who shut.

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Speaker 7: The government down but no idea and are getting to

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Speaker 7: get what you want.

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Speaker 8: So it wasn't what way to this fight?

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, the fight lives on.

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Speaker 9: Well, the country loses a lot of money when they

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Speaker 9: do this, and they're not getting much, but nobody gets

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Speaker 9: a lot. But it's it's terrible what they really wanted

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Speaker 9: was one and a half trillion dollars for people that

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Speaker 9: came in illegally.

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Speaker 7: I think we actually lose leverage in our fight for

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Speaker 7: Americans now that we have capitulated Donald Trump without any

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Speaker 7: real protections for people's health care or our democracy in

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Speaker 7: the short term funding built.

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Speaker 10: Can we reform snap?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you really made them.

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Speaker 9: It's meant for people, and you know what it does

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Speaker 9: is it really puts the comfort in the country a jeopardy.

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Speaker 9: People that needed have to get it. I'm all for it,

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Speaker 9: But people that are able bodied can do a job,

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Speaker 9: they leave their job because they figure they can pick

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Speaker 9: this up it's easier.

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Speaker 11: That's not the purpose of I believe Christian charities and

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Speaker 11: churches should step up and feed and to clothe and

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Speaker 11: to be a helping hand, not government. In fact, we

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Speaker 11: used to be a country that we had a lot

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Speaker 11: more private charities going and helping people in need. In fact,

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Speaker 11: I would make a contention if the government cut all

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Speaker 11: of its social welfare, every church would step up to

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Speaker 11: make sure that no kid went hungry in this country

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Speaker 11: and that no kid would die of starvation.

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Speaker 12: I would love if my tax dollars went to helping

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Speaker 12: people who needed food.

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Speaker 13: That's my argument here.

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Speaker 14: I think it does.

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Speaker 11: Over trillion dollars a year goes to food stamps and

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Speaker 11: SNAP and medicaid. But actually it doesn't help them nearly

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Speaker 11: as much as you think. Let me tell you why,

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Speaker 11: because then we subsidize bad eating habits of the poor,

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Speaker 11: so that working poor is variob So they go buy Cola,

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Speaker 11: Pepsi and freedom lays and the church is not involved.

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Speaker 11: Where the church would then they say, hey, instead of

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Speaker 11: going to the local grocery store with a bunch of

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Speaker 11: food stamps and SNAP benefits, why don't you come by

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Speaker 11: our church and we'll feed all of you and a

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Speaker 11: much more healthy meal made by our own members, and

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Speaker 11: then you can hear the gospel afterwards.

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Speaker 1: That's the church in practice.

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Speaker 10: If Jesus fed people for free, taught people for free,

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Speaker 10: and healed people for.

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Speaker 15: Free, why don't we do the same.

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Speaker 16: Churches should last hour we've highlighted for you, as some

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Speaker 16: fights broke out in this crowd again, we know two

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Speaker 16: people have been detained. As emotions are high and tensions

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Speaker 16: are high, as we saw some of those protesters clashing

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Speaker 16: the university has added enhanced security measures. They called in

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Speaker 16: a lot of police from Berkeley as well as you

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Speaker 16: see Berkeley and Turning Point. USA has also hired some

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Speaker 16: of their own independent security to be on campus. There

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Speaker 16: are strict policies to actually get inside of zelder Back Hall,

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Speaker 2: It is clear to us which side is winning when

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Speaker 2: your side becomes the violent agitators. When you try to

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Speaker 2: win with force and not through reason, you have loss.

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Speaker 15: And the reality is.

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Speaker 17: They would never come in and ask a question. They're

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Speaker 17: not trying to win.

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Speaker 18: Honestly, if we are going to have a vibrant society

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Speaker 18: and continue to be the largest economy, the most technologically

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Speaker 18: advanced society in the world, we must protect free speech

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Speaker 18: and debate. We cannot afford to continue people having beliefs

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Speaker 18: persists that are not subject to facts or logic or

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Speaker 18: empirical evidence, and anyone who presents empirical evidence to the

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Speaker 18: contrary gets shut down, censored, and subject.

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Speaker 3: To violence on the university campus.

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Speaker 14: This has to stop.

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Speaker 12: Charlie would have loved this, Harris, this is fantastic. Look,

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Speaker 12: it doesn't matter where you are in this country, you

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Speaker 12: can always find people who want to exchange ideas, and

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Speaker 12: I think that's what Charlie at the core of his

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Speaker 12: message was all about. Whether or not you agreed with him,

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Speaker 12: that wasn't the point. It was about talking to other people,

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Speaker 12: getting your voice heard, and making a space where conservatives

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Speaker 12: felt comfortable on college campuses, everywhere, Harris.

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Speaker 5: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 5: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve,

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Speaker 5: fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice

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Speaker 5: of a generation that still has the will to believe

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Speaker 5: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 5: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here

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Speaker 19: A lot, all right, Welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 19: It is Tuesday, November eleventh. Honored to be with you

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Speaker 19: all stations across the country, Real America's Voice streaming podcast.

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Speaker 19: Thank you so much for joining us. As always, I'm

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Speaker 19: joined by Blake Neff Are Not So Secret Weapon. I'm

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Speaker 19: Andrew Covid, executive producer of this fine show, and we

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Speaker 19: have lots to get to. Yesterday, of course, was the

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Speaker 19: two month anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination, and we had

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Speaker 19: a campus tour event, the final one of the This

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Speaker 19: is the Turning Point tour. We rebranded it after Charlie's assassination,

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Speaker 19: and it was at UC Berkeley, which is supposed to

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Speaker 19: be the birthplace of the modern free speech, the.

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Speaker 17: Free speech movement, and like persistent, like.

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Speaker 8: Layer of the worst, most like wretched elements moved to

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Speaker 19: Charlie visited the campus a few times. I was with

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Speaker 19: him on one occasion. We were struck by just this

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Speaker 19: it's a very I think, a dark place. But there

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Speaker 19: are great people there. And Antifa swarmed our event last night.

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Speaker 19: It became a massive news story, as most of you

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Speaker 19: year law student and she was stuck in the mob,

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Speaker 19: had glass bottle of glass bottle paint thrown on her,

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Speaker 15: Layla, Welcome to the show. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, thank you for coming on and making the time.

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Speaker 19: I know it was probably a late evening for you

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Speaker 19: all there, and an eventful one. So why don't you

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Speaker 19: just start by telling us what happened, what you saw,

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Speaker 19: and we're going to unpack this piece by piece here.

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Speaker 20: Sure, it was absolutely a horrible experience with Antifa book protesters,

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Speaker 3: I finished class around five point thirty.

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Speaker 20: I walked over from the law school and kind of

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Speaker 20: it was clear that there were two different groups. It

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Speaker 20: was the Antifa on the violent protesters their signs. At

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Speaker 20: that point, they had already started mocking Charlie Kirk's death, shouting,

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Speaker 20: shouting slurs like Nazi fascists, anyone walking by wearing a

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Speaker 3: I saw people stepping on US flags.

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Speaker 20: And so then I ended up joining this line of

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Speaker 3: From my head.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and so just so everybody's clear about what actually happened,

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Speaker 19: So these Antifa people, and I've got the whole rundown

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Speaker 19: from our team, these Antifa thugs tried to basically block

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Speaker 19: show the flyers. So this was a coordinated assault on

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Speaker 8: And fascist Turning Points youth oriented campaign of incitement to violence.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: So what they're doing now is they're claiming that Turning

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Speaker 19: Point is inciting violence by holding a free speech event

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Speaker 19: in Charlie's honor, something he died for, something he was

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Speaker 8: As always, our speech is violence, their violence is speech.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly, the whole upside down bizarro world, that is

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Speaker 15: the radical left. So what they did is they they

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Speaker 19: And what happened was we were begging the police, Our

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Speaker 19: sort of a thing that we experienced at UCLA a

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Speaker 19: few years back, where they they played with the QR codes,

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Speaker 19: so a lot maybe you could speak into this, Laila,

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Speaker 19: where a lot of people had QR codes and we

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Speaker 19: especially in California, to for ticketing systems and a lot

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Speaker 15: Can you explain what was going on there? What do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so pretty much.

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Speaker 20: I like many others in the line, we had already ticket,

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Speaker 20: We had tickets, we had QR codes that we believed

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Speaker 20: we had only filled out a student interest form or

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Speaker 6: Well, Antifa, this is an entirely imaginary organization.

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Speaker 19: Andrew Poll thattt we've got Lila, not Laila you said

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Speaker 19: one forty nine. This is UC Berkeley turning Point chapter President.

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Speaker 19: He gave a great speech. It was very proud of him.

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Speaker 2: It is clear to us which side is winning When

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Speaker 19: On well, said Lela, Why don't you just sum it up?

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Speaker 19: We got two minutes left here. What has happened in

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Speaker 20: It's a very dangerous place. Antifa is prevalent, and it's

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Speaker 20: a domestic terror group that needs to be handled with

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Speaker 20: and quite frankly, with all their defund the police chants,

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Speaker 20: the students enough. The administration certainly isn't so I certainly.

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Speaker 20: Of course, since the assassinations of Charlie Kirk, people who

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Speaker 20: before we're afraid have been more empowered to speak, but

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Speaker 20: that has come with consequences unfortunately at Berkeley.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we really need to emphasize on that point.

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Speaker 8: Like Antifa is basically like if we had a group

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Speaker 8: that just in the South, if we had a group

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Speaker 8: and terrorized people who are trying to hold me, you know,

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Speaker 8: able to say this is a domestic terror group and

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Speaker 8: should be targeted accordingly. And like when you have these

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Speaker 8: Antifa urchins who will harass any conservative event in Berkeley,

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Speaker 8: that is a domestic intimidation target.

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Speaker 15: I'm going to keep you, Ellilah for two more minutes.

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Speaker 15: Hang right there, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 14: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice newsbreak. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 24: President Trump started this veteran's Day off by honoring the

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Speaker 24: men and women who have served this country in the

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Speaker 24: armed forces. Real America's Voice was there as he laid

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Speaker 24: this wreath at Arlington National Cemetery. The Commander in Chief

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Speaker 24: also operaing up remarks before members of his cabinet as

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Speaker 24: well as the Vice President.

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Speaker 25: American flag has always been shielded and protected by a

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Speaker 25: special cast of citizen who has stepped forward to safe

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Speaker 25: liberty's course when danger came, when duty called, When Almighty

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Speaker 25: God asked who had the will and the strength to

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Speaker 25: veteran stood up and said, here I am, Send me

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Speaker 25: here I am. They've come from every corner of this nation,

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Speaker 25: and became the shield between our homeland and those who

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Speaker 24: For Meantime, House Speaker Mike Johnson is calling lawmakers in

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Speaker 24: his chamber back to Washington, saying that he'd like to

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Speaker 24: pass a measure to reopen the government as soon as tomorrow.

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Speaker 24: All of this comes after eight Senate Democrats cross the

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Speaker 24: in US history. The sixty to forty vote sets up

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Speaker 24: a December vote on expiring Affordable Care Act subsidies, which

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Speaker 24: is what Democrats have been holding out for government agencies,

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Speaker 24: by the way, would now be funded through January thirtieth,

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Speaker 24: Plus the snap food benefit program, which has been disputed

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Speaker 24: of next year. That's a great check of your headlines.

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Speaker 5: Stop watching the news and start from making some The

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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 15: All right, welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 19: I want to tell you really quickly about our friends

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Speaker 19: over at TikTok. You see, Charlie built a thriving community

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Speaker 19: through conversation. It's not something that happens immediately. Doesn't happen overnight.

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Speaker 19: It happens over time, one connection at a time, one

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Speaker 19: post at a time. TikTok offers opportunities for the exchange

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Speaker 19: of ideas and through that community, not to talk over

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Speaker 19: each other, but to talk with each other. You'll find

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Speaker 19: creators on TikTok who teach and encourage. A carpenter passing

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Speaker 19: on his craft, a mom explaining how to make a

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Speaker 19: budget stretch, or a gardener showing us how to bring

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Speaker 19: a backyard back to life. Different stories with the same drive,

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Speaker 19: the desire to connect and to understand, to find a

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Speaker 19: way forward through respectful dialogue, building trust and feeling heard,

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Speaker 19: freedom to speak what we know and to hear each

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Speaker 19: other out.

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Speaker 15: That's the power of TikTok.

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Speaker 19: It gives everyone a seat at the table, a place

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Speaker 19: to speak, to listen, and to remind each other what

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Speaker 19: can really looks like. Conversations build connections, and connections build communities.

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Speaker 19: Portions of The Charlie Kirkshow are sponsored in part by TikTok.

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Speaker 15: So.

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Speaker 19: We have a great guest up next. His name is

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Speaker 19: Christopher Rufo. He needs no introduction for most of you. Christopher,

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Speaker 19: welcome to the show. Honored to have you, and congratulations

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Speaker 19: on your new show. Rufo and Lomes.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, thank you so much.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, this is a I mean, we have a topic,

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Speaker 19: a very clear topic that we're going to get to

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Speaker 19: about bringing together the disparate coalitions on the right. However,

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Speaker 19: I just want to encourage the show that you're doing

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Speaker 19: with Lomez is going to be a must listen to

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Speaker 19: for if you want to hear sort of, I would say,

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Speaker 19: just really smart dialogue, challenging the ideas everything that's going

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Speaker 19: on in X, all the chaos. Maybe just tell us

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Speaker 19: one more, give us a few lines about the show

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Speaker 19: and why you guys are doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing a show called Rufo and Lomz.

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Speaker 26: It's me Rufo and my friend Jonathan Lomaz Keeperman. Look,

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Speaker 26: we're both creatives. I was a documentary filmmaker. Lomas was

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Speaker 26: an English professor, and so we're trying to tackle culture

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Speaker 26: and politics through a different lens than people are used

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Speaker 26: to in the traditional right wing talk radio format. We're

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Speaker 26: trying to take all of the chaos out of the

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Speaker 26: digital sphere. We're trying to break it down, dissect it,

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Speaker 26: analyze it for people, and really serve as a trusted,

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Speaker 26: responsible guide through the times that we're in. And I

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Speaker 26: think that's what the responsibility for all of us is

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Speaker 26: to do right now. We have a very chaotic politics,

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Speaker 26: we have a lot of infighting on the right, and

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Speaker 26: it's time for those of us who have the ability

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Speaker 26: to step up and try to be a really responsible guide,

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Speaker 26: much like Charlie Kirk was for so many people.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, that's that's well said in a good segue. Blake's

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Speaker 19: gonna kind of bring us to your tweet one fourteen.

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Speaker 19: You you you brought this this, You tweeted this yesterday.

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Speaker 15: Yea flagging. I thought it was so we got to hear.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you just said, it's become very clear in

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Speaker 8: retrospect that Charlie Kirk was holding the right together and

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Speaker 8: that we need JD. Vance to step into that role,

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Speaker 8: which will require settling disputes and laying out the boundaries

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Speaker 8: of the coalition. Nixon figured out how to do this

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Speaker 8: after being vice president.

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Speaker 1: So and then.

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Speaker 8: Someone said, you know, Vance should have his own podcasts,

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Speaker 8: which we've had him on a few times, and we

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Speaker 17: But yeah, I think that's for those who aren't aware

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Speaker 8: There's been a lot of discussion of this online because

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Speaker 8: there's been a lot of arguments within the right over

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Speaker 8: you know, for example, when Tucker interviewed Nick.

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Speaker 17: Flentes, what are the barrier on the Israel question?

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Speaker 8: On different on foreign policy questions, and a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 8: what's up for debate, what's not up for debate, what's

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Speaker 8: beyond the pale? And you know, Charlie was such a

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Speaker 8: coalition builder, he was so int and keeping the focus

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Speaker 8: on get wins against the left, don't you know Charlie

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Speaker 8: would not have been having a big fight over what

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Speaker 8: the right should believe a week before the elections in

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Speaker 8: Virginia and New Jersey. And I think it's very important

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Speaker 8: emphasize that. And I'm glad you were emphasizing it, Chris.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: And so Chris, yeah, build on HYJD. Why do you

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Speaker 26: Well, look, I mean, I think again, in retrospect, I

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Speaker 26: I need great names for people to staff the Department

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Speaker 26: of Education. I'm down at mar A Lago. We're trying

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Speaker 26: And I think I didn't quite understand that and appreciate

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Speaker 1: The general right.

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Speaker 26: He was really just an incredible leader in that regard,

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Speaker 26: and as I'm looking around for other people who could

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Speaker 26: first person that obviously comes to mind is the sitting

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Speaker 26: Vice President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: You know, he JD has.

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Speaker 26: Great relationships with all the various factions on the right.

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Speaker 26: He of course has the bully pulpit of being the

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Speaker 26: vice president. That's actually quite helpful to be in a

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Speaker 1: He kind of offering.

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Speaker 26: The access to the White House, offering access to you know,

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Speaker 26: the office of the Vice President, and then getting people

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Speaker 26: in line. And look, the right is facing this question now.

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Speaker 26: Obviously it's very chaotic. Many of us wish that we

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Speaker 26: weren't doing it, for example, right before election, but the

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Speaker 26: cat is now out of the bag, and I think

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Speaker 26: And I think the vice president has the authority, the credibility,

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Speaker 26: I could see why he would want to kind of

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Speaker 26: let things maybe resolve naturally, but I hope that he

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Speaker 26: steps up and I hope that he can be a

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Speaker 26: galvanizing figure hope he can be a figure that really

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Speaker 26: sets the boundaries and also sets the direction so that

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Speaker 26: all of us can be more effective in our work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to.

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Speaker 8: Let's Charlie was, of course a big fan of the

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Speaker 8: vice president. I'll say, very hard for him to become

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Speaker 8: vice president and senator before that. And so let's go

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Speaker 8: to the man himself. This is Charlie on jd Let's

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Speaker 8: play one fifty eight.

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Speaker 11: We recognized his gifts early on. I saw the talent,

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Speaker 11: and I said, this is the guy, this is the one.

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Speaker 14: JD.

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Speaker 11: Vance has become such a warrior for our cause in

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Speaker 11: the past six months.

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Speaker 1: JD.

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Speaker 11: Vance is acting and looking like the vice president that

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump needs, the vice president that Donald Trump deserves,

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Speaker 11: and maybe beyond that, even the fortiethh president. We're a

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Speaker 11: long way from that. We shouldn't even think or talk

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Speaker 11: too much openly about that. But he's a rock star.

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Speaker 11: He's smart, he's capable, he's humble, he's phenomenal, and what

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Speaker 11: an upgrade from what we had during that last administration.

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Speaker 19: Unclear if he's talking about Joe Biden's or trump O

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Speaker 19: puto there, but it probably would have made probably true

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Speaker 19: from Charlie's perspective on either. But yeah, I mean, listen,

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Speaker 19: Chris JD has the built in advantage of not only

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Speaker 19: being the vice president, but you know, Charlie in death

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Speaker 19: somehow has taken on even more important of a position

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Speaker 19: within the movement symbolically, spiritually, and of course the words

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Speaker 19: that he spoke out and all these clips we have

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Speaker 19: of him, he was in JD's corner a billion percent.

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Speaker 19: I can tell you this from the first time we

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Speaker 19: had him on the show years ago, when it was.

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Speaker 15: Just talking about he'd always say.

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Speaker 17: People would say, like, Charlie should run for president.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I don't need to j J the president. Yeah.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, So that, I mean, that holds a significance within

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Speaker 19: the conservative movement, that Charlie was such a huge proponent

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Speaker 19: of his.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, I think that's right. And I think again he

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Speaker 26: really set the example. If you see how Charlie dealt

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Speaker 26: with right wing racialism, right wing conspiracism, the Groyper movement.

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Speaker 26: More broadly, he was trying to kind of create good

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Speaker 26: boundaries that would benefit and he understood that sometimes there

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Speaker 26: is an addition through subtraction and a political coalition. There

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Speaker 26: are certain groups that you want to manage, and there

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Speaker 26: are certain groups that you want to manage out because

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Speaker 26: ultimately they detract. And the end of my tweet was

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Speaker 26: a reference to Richard Nixon. And if you look at

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Speaker 26: the history of Nixon, Nixon was derailed in his nineteen

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Speaker 26: sixty two campaign for California governor by the John Birch Society,

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Speaker 26: which in that time represented a more extreme form of

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Speaker 26: right wing conspiracism. They of course were famous for attacking

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Speaker 26: President Eisenhower as a communist agent. And by the nineteen

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Speaker 26: sixty eight presidential campaign which Nixon won, and then in

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Speaker 26: seventy two, which he won by an overwhelming margin, winning

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Speaker 26: forty nine states, he learned how to successfully cut through

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Speaker 26: these thorny questions, how to create a successful coalition that

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Speaker 26: galvanized huge majorities, and also how to edge out some

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Speaker 26: of the negative influences, some of the net negatives, like

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Speaker 26: the John Birch Society. He had this sophisticated strategy of

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Speaker 26: strategic distance without getting sucked into a debate with the

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Speaker 26: Birch Society. And I think that for someone like JD

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Speaker 26: a similar approach could be quite effective. Look again, Nixon

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Speaker 26: won forty nine states.

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Speaker 1: I think he.

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Speaker 26: Has he demonstrated one potential model for this that could

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Speaker 26: be very important. And of course Nixon was you know,

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Speaker 26: formerly served as vice president, and so that's why I

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Speaker 26: think the historical example might be useful and might offer

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Speaker 26: a plausible way forward.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think I think, you know, there this this

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Speaker 19: is the debate. I mean, what you've just isolated is

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Speaker 19: the you know, and Buckley played a big role with

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Speaker 19: you know who who was in, who was out. I mean,

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Speaker 19: it's a it's I can't tell you how many people

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Speaker 19: have sent me the Buckley example going back to those days,

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Speaker 19: and you know, it's it's a it's a really tricky question.

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Speaker 8: It is a tricky one because like, for example, you

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Speaker 8: could say some of Buckley's influence meant that we had

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Speaker 8: like that anti intervention, anti immigration faction of the right

706
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Speaker 8: was was too low for too long, and that caused

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Speaker 8: a lot of damage to the movement and the country arguably.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, No, I think I think you have to get

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Speaker 19: it right. And I will say, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 19: let's just name names. Let's just do it, and Chris,

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Speaker 19: you can you can either choose to engage or not.

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Speaker 15: I mean, that's it's kind of what you're talking about

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Speaker 15: the strate.

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Speaker 19: Well, let's not get sucked down to it, but you know,

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Speaker 19: suck down into this sort of like I would say,

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Speaker 19: counterproductive in fighting. And I agree with you that there

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Speaker 19: are opportunities where we need to sort of say, hey,

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Speaker 19: you know, this is a this is a line too far,

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Speaker 19: it's a bridge too far. But you know a lot

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Speaker 19: of people We've said it on Thought Crime. I think

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Speaker 19: we've said it on this show as well. You know,

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Speaker 19: a lot of people are asking us to distance ourselves

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Speaker 19: from from Tucker, given everything that's happened. And I would say, listen,

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Speaker 19: one of the last things that we were asked to do,

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Speaker 19: or that Charlie made very clear to us, was that,

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Speaker 19: you know, I will not be you know, morally blackmailed

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Speaker 19: when it comes to Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 15: He's my friend.

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Speaker 19: I believe in him, and you know, listen, we have

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Speaker 19: a I understand a lot of the pressure that comes

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Speaker 19: with the fallout from that interview. I understand a lot

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Speaker 19: of it, you know, but you know, it's there is

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Speaker 19: a relationship there, There is a history there with Charlie

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Speaker 19: and Tucker, and so just to say it really clearly

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Speaker 19: that's that's not going to happen now debates the collision

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Speaker 19: of ideas at Amfest. Trust me, we're pursuing every single

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Speaker 19: means and I think it's a worthwhile debate to be

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Speaker 19: having about what is.

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Speaker 15: Our foreign policy?

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Speaker 19: What should it be with regards to how much we

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Speaker 19: spend on foreign nations?

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Speaker 15: What you know?

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Speaker 19: Is there a line between moral and financial support? Is

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Speaker 19: there a line between boots on the ground. Certainly, I

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Speaker 19: think the movement is consolidated and I would say very

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Speaker 19: united when it comes to boots on the ground. But

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Speaker 19: there are really important conversations that deserve to be challenged

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Speaker 19: in a public forum from different perspectives. So Chris, I'll

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Speaker 15: All right.

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Speaker 19: This is more from when Charlie was singing jd Vance's

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Speaker 19: praises in januarys January twenty seventh of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 19: So earlier this year, h one.

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Speaker 11: Nine, getting behind jd Vance in two thousand and what

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Speaker 11: was it twenty one? Yeah, that's right, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 11: We endorsed jd Vance very early. It's kind of like

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Speaker 11: buying bitcoin in twenty thirteen. A lot of upside. It's

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Speaker 11: a lot of upside. People hear him and go, wait,

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Speaker 11: this guy is great. He got vilified so much earlier

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Speaker 11: and it's got even better. And everyone around me knows

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Speaker 11: how much I believe in jd Vance. I mean I

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Speaker 11: went all out twice for him, first on the Senate

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Speaker 11: thing and then on the vice presidential selection.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I can personally attest of just how much Charlie,

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Speaker 19: how much equity he put at political capital he put

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Speaker 19: into getting jd to be selected as the vice president,

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Speaker 19: to getting him to win the primary for the Ohio

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Speaker 19: Senate race. Charlie believed in jd Vance. My goodness, Jade

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Speaker 19: Vance has been an absolute hero in the aftermath of

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Speaker 19: Charlie's assassination. He's anything we need, He's right there to help,

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Speaker 19: and he means it. And it's sincere. We'll be right

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Speaker 19: back with Chris Rufo. All right, welcome back to the

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Speaker 19: Charlie Kirschhip final segment of the hour, final segment with

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Speaker 19: Christopher Rufo, the Great Christopher Rufo Blake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, let's Chris.

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Speaker 8: We just want to hear what you have to think

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Speaker 8: about the elephants in the room, which is we're having

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Speaker 8: this big factional debate because well, no, it didn't start

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Speaker 8: with him. Tarer Carlson interviewed Nick Fuentes. Some people said

808
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Speaker 8: that's fine. Some people said, we don't like it, but

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Speaker 8: you know whatever, it's his show. And some people are

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Speaker 8: saying this is beyond the pale and we should condemn it.

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Speaker 8: We're having faction fights at Heritage. So we just wanted

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Speaker 8: you to offer your perspective on that.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, how do how do we approach it? Chris?

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Speaker 26: Well, you know, it's a it's a little it's a

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Speaker 26: very complex question, and I have a few parts to

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Speaker 26: the answer.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 26: First off, I think, like many of us, Tucker gave

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Speaker 26: so many people on the right a great start, a

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Speaker 26: great boost, great support. I count myself as someone who

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Speaker 26: really is grateful for what Tucker has done, and so

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Speaker 26: I think you give someone like that more latitude if

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Speaker 26: you're talking about the Flintest interview. My own personal preference

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Speaker 26: would have been for Tucker to really interrogate flint ESTs

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Speaker 26: a little bit, more challenges opinions, really make it at

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Speaker 26: a kind of journalistic and adversarial enterprise. However, I think

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Speaker 26: that therefore the call to to you know, banish Tucker,

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Speaker 26: to banish you know, Kevin Roberts from Heritage, to banish

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Speaker 26: anyone in that orbit is foolish. I think it's premature.

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Speaker 26: I think it is counterproductive. And you know, in my

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Speaker 26: own attempt, like I've texted with Tucker subsequently, I've tried

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Speaker 26: to give him my sense of how to think about

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Speaker 26: the Flintist or Groyper phenomenon, how to approach it in

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Speaker 26: a way that I think would be more productive. We exchanged,

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Speaker 26: you know, pretty cordial messages, and I think that is

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Speaker 26: probably the best strategy moving forward, to recognize that Tucker

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Speaker 26: does have an important place in the conservative movement, and

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Speaker 26: even in places of criticism, I think that we can

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Speaker 26: try to debate those ideas, we can try to push.

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Speaker 1: People in a more productive direction.

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Speaker 26: I think this is what Charlie did with not just

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Speaker 26: with Tucker, but with many other people. And I am well,

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Speaker 26: I think that look there again, there's always addition through

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Speaker 26: subtraction with people who are net negatives very counterproductive. I

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Speaker 26: think kind of racialist conspiracist factions certainly fall under that.

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Speaker 26: But you know, this instinct to denounce, to disavow, to

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Speaker 26: draw red lines, to purge leadership to do that kind

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Speaker 26: of action, whether at Heritage or now at ISI or

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Speaker 26: at other institutions, I think that is not the right

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Speaker 26: way approach at right approach, And I think we get

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Speaker 26: into an almost inverse of the BLM moment where you

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Speaker 26: have DEI style struggle sessions at conservative institutions.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a very bad idea.

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Speaker 19: I don't post the black square, post the black square, Chris.

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Speaker 19: It's like, it feels like our version of post the

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Speaker 19: black Square, which.

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Speaker 27: By the way, Charlie raged, you don't like this aggressive

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Speaker 27: moral coercion that just uses you know, how dare you

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Speaker 27: have this conversation?

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Speaker 1: How dare you have that thought? He was very against that.

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Speaker 15: Well, Chris, that was well, it was really well said.

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Speaker 19: And I'm glad. I'm glad to hear that from you,

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Speaker 19: because you know you're you're a smart guy, and you've

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Speaker 19: thought deeply about these issues, and I would just say,

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Speaker 19: you know, listen, let's put the let's put the groy

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Speaker 19: Per phenomenon aside.

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Speaker 15: Let's put all of that aside.

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Speaker 19: I will tell you a thousand with a one thousand

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Speaker 19: percent certainty, because I had dozens of conversations about this,

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Speaker 19: the the larger critiques, the chew the meat, spit out

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Speaker 19: the bones kind of critiques about what this country has

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Speaker 19: done when it comes to betraying young men, young white men,

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Speaker 19: what it's done to break the social compact and to

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Speaker 19: label a lot of these groups as toxic as is

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Speaker 19: beyond the pale, is not worth fighting for, has done

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Speaker 19: such extraordinary damage to our country that some of this

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Speaker 19: backlash it needs to be harnessed and focused. And that's

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Speaker 19: what was Charlie divided devoted his life to. You heard

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Speaker 19: that with Erica Kirk in her memorial speech that this

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Speaker 19: was the guy that killed Charlie was the one that

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Speaker 19: was the same kind of guy that he was out

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Speaker 19: on these college campuses trying to save and that work

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Speaker 19: must continue. We must remember that some of these yes

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Speaker 19: it comes out and gross and vile ways, but at

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Speaker 19: the core. There is a truth that we must acknowledge

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Speaker 19: and be very very serious about addressing final word to

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Speaker 19: you about fifty seconds Chris.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about it.

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Speaker 26: I mean, if you're a young man growing up today,

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Speaker 26: you came of age during the COVID lockdowns, you came

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Speaker 26: of age during the BLM era, where you were told

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Speaker 26: that you were inherently and intrinsically evil because of your sex,

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Speaker 26: because of your race, and so there is a justifiable

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Speaker 26: resentment that has been bubbling up for many years. But

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Speaker 26: I think that the best way to address that is

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Speaker 26: through eliminating dei, delegitimizing BLM ideologies, and then kind of

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Speaker 26: tapping into those essential pillars of building our civilization, economic opportunity,

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Speaker 26: great institutions, strong families, and offering young men a way

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Speaker 26: that is not nihilistic, but a way that's actually going

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Speaker 26: to make their lives better in the real world.

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Speaker 1: Conservatives can't do that. We need to keep thinking.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I agree, we got to offer them a better vision.

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Speaker 19: Christopher Rufo hosted the new show Rufo and Lomes to

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Speaker 19: really great great guys thought leaders in the movement. Thank you, Chris,

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Speaker 19: we'll have you on again soon. Thanks Ton Hour two

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Speaker 19: coming up.

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Speaker 15: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 24: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break on

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Speaker 24: Terrence Bates. Well, folks, it is Energized Health Testimonial time.

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Speaker 22: My weight change is about thirty six pounds. I work

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Speaker 22: at a lady's apparel store and I have regular customers.

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Speaker 22: I've been there for eight years and they are all noticing.

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Speaker 22: They said, fourteen twelve, size ten, size eight, size six.

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Speaker 22: I want from a large to a medium to a small,

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Speaker 22: and now I'm in an extra small. I'm also healthy

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Speaker 22: and energetic and happy.

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Speaker 14: Here's the good news.

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Speaker 24: You could be the next testimonial, but that means taking

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Speaker 24: the first step. Energize Health founder John Jubilee joins me

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Speaker 24: now with details.

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Speaker 14: John, good to see my friend.

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Speaker 1: Great to see it, Terrence.

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Speaker 24: So look, the reality is so many people measure their

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Speaker 24: success when it comes to health with a scale, not

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Speaker 24: necessarily how they feel or their actual health.

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Speaker 10: Well they do, Terrence, and you know why because we

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Speaker 10: all were brainwashed, you know, to just look at that

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Speaker 10: scale number, right, So we all just look at the scale.

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Speaker 10: Look at the scale, look at the scale. But again,

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Speaker 10: I just share about real people, Terrence, And you know,

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Speaker 10: I was sitting with a couple, you know that I

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Speaker 10: knew for thirty years, and the guy was bragging. He said,

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Speaker 10: I'm the same weight today that I was in college.

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Speaker 10: And I just looked at his wife and said, is

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Speaker 10: he the same shape today.

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Speaker 14: That he was in college?

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Speaker 10: And she said, John, his thirty pounds that used to

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Speaker 10: be up here in his shoulders, in his chests, dropped

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Speaker 10: down into his belly.

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Speaker 15: And so what happened?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 10: He gained this fat, he gained subcutaneous fat, he lost hydration,

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Speaker 10: he lost muscle. And that's why we don't ever want

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Speaker 10: to just look at us scale, you know, we want

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Speaker 10: to make sure that we're our true genetic blueprint to

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Speaker 10: have our healthy lean muscle, our healthy intercellular hydration, and

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Speaker 10: lose the fat.

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Speaker 28: You know.

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Speaker 24: Another key thing to discuss is the distinction between losing

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Speaker 24: weight and losing fat.

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Speaker 14: There is a distinction.

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Speaker 10: There, well, there really is, terrence every one of us.

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Speaker 10: Come on, guys, how many of us we went on

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Speaker 10: a diet? We lost ten pounds, like in one or

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Speaker 10: two weeks? Come on, we've all done it.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 10: Let's also be honest when I ask you this.

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Speaker 1: What did we lose?

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Speaker 10: We all know what it was. It was water.

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Speaker 1: We lost water.

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Speaker 10: So we basically went from being a grape to a raisin.

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Speaker 10: Is that success? No, we actually got less healthy. We

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Speaker 10: got dehydrated. It's not about the weight loss, it is

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Speaker 10: about losing the us on subcutaneous fat. And I'll tell you,

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Speaker 10: guys something. We've been measuring cellular hydration for twenty eight

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Speaker 10: years and energize health. Listen for literally ninety seven bucks.

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Speaker 10: You know, you go on our website, we'll send you

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Speaker 10: a device to measure. You can do your own measurement.

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Speaker 10: You can get a free consultation with one of our

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Speaker 10: cheaper than a doctor visit. But you'll get a measurement

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Speaker 10: your doctor never gave you, which is what is my

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Speaker 10: cellular hydration? Because that's the starting point. It's knowing am

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Speaker 10: I dehydrated? And Terrence, I'll tell people a couple quick things.

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Speaker 10: Here's a couple quick tests to know if you're dehydrated.

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Speaker 10: Number one, number one circumstance that happens to all of

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Speaker 10: us when we're dehydrated, we crave sugar. We crave sugar.

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Speaker 10: If we crave sugar, we're dehydrated. The second easiest thing

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Speaker 10: that you can do is just ask yourself, do I

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Speaker 10: feel like I'm never really satiated? My thirst is never quenched.

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Speaker 10: And the third thing is do the pinch test. Just

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Speaker 10: pinch the skin on the top of your hand. If

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Speaker 10: it doesn't snap back like a tight rubber band, you

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Speaker 10: are dehydrated and you need to test your own sellular

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Speaker 10: hydration to see. Wait a minute, not am I dehydrated?

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Speaker 10: But how dehydrated am I? And what are my next

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Speaker 10: steps to get hydrated at the cellular level?

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Speaker 24: All right, I'm guilty out of two out of three,

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Speaker 24: partially because I got a sweet tooth and I do

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Speaker 24: drink a lot.

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Speaker 14: But fortunately it looks.

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Speaker 24: Like my skin is bouncing back, so I might need

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Speaker 24: some help. But maybe I'm not quite as far off

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Speaker 24: as I thought I might be.

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Speaker 14: For people who are.

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Speaker 24: Interested, quickly tell them how they can get in touch

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Speaker 24: with you, pay their ninety seven dollars and get started.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know what, guys, just reach out to energizehealth

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Speaker 10: dot com. Just schedule a free schedule your free breakthrough call,

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Speaker 10: and then you can get your kit. You can get

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Speaker 10: your test kit to get your hydration tested again. Ninety

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Speaker 10: seven dollars, but that also includes a free consultation that's

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Speaker 24: Perfect, John, You're the only person that can get me

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Speaker 24: to pinch myself on the air. The information is there

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Speaker 24: on the screen, folks.

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Speaker 19: All right, our two underway here at the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 19: I'm Andrew Covid, executive producer with Blake Neff, and we

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Speaker 19: are joined by Mark Halprin, editor in chief of two

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Speaker 19: Way and also host of Next Up on the Megan

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Speaker 19: Kelly Network and one of the best political analysts that

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Speaker 19: I know. And every time I bring up Mark's name

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Speaker 19: around everybody because he's real good at politics. He's a

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Speaker 19: really smart guy, real real smart guy, Mark Halprin. Welcome

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Speaker 19: to the show, my friend. Good to see you. We

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Speaker 19: are real close to officially being done with this shutdown.

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Speaker 19: It looks like past the Senate hurdle, which was the

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Speaker 19: big one last last evening, and now it's onto the house.

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Speaker 19: There's probably some procedural delays. I'm sure that they're throwing

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Speaker 19: up and then they'll get to get to the business.

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Speaker 15: Uh boil it all down for us.

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Speaker 19: I mean, what are we I mean, we're It's like

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Speaker 19: last week, all I heard was about a Republican civil war,

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Speaker 19: Conservative civil war, and then in one fell swoop, you

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Speaker 19: got enough Democrats to break break ranks, and now we've

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Speaker 19: got a Democrat civil war.

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Speaker 15: Please make sense of what's happening.

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Speaker 29: Well, Republican civil war after the election nine or ten months,

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Speaker 29: oh no, a week ago. You know, it's rare to

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Speaker 29: have to ten pole events like that, rowing in opposite,

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Speaker 29: diametrically opposite points of view. I think right now, and

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Speaker 29: I talked about this on Next Up today, almost everything

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Speaker 29: that happens can be seen through the prism of the

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Speaker 29: Renny game. It's the populace versus the establishment. You're seeing

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Speaker 29: that in the Republican Party. You're seeing that in the

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Speaker 29: Democratic Party. And I think the populist wing of the

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Speaker 29: Democratic Party is super energized by Donald Trump. And the

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Speaker 29: populist wing of the Democratic Party also has a political

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Speaker 29: death wish because they wanted to continue to try to

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Speaker 29: get Donald Trump to give up on the shutdown, and

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Speaker 29: it was clear to eight Senate Democrats that he wouldn't.

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Speaker 29: So the whole politics of both those stories revolved around Trump.

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Speaker 29: On the negative side, he energizes the Democrats on the

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Speaker 29: negative side for the Republicans, energizes the Democrats on the

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Speaker 29: negative side. For the Democrats, he causes Trump arrangement syndrome.

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Speaker 29: And Democrats on the left who are complaining now, some

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Speaker 29: privately are glad the shutdowns over, but the ones on

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Speaker 29: the left who wanted to continue the fight just they

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Speaker 29: can't think straight when it comes to political combat with

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Speaker 29: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and I'm fascinated about this dynamic that we see

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Speaker 19: playing out right now.

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Speaker 15: You've almost got kind.

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Speaker 19: Of a Rokanna versus Hakim Jeffries dynamic happening with Rocanna

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Speaker 19: saying Schumer's gotta go. You heard this from Sunny Austin

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Speaker 19: on the View and others that are saying it's time

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Speaker 19: to go. As a congressman out of Massachusetts, right, the

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Speaker 19: one that was about to get primaried for not wanting

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Speaker 19: his daughter to play.

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Speaker 1: Trans athletes, Seth Seth Moulten.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Seth Moulten, that's right. So he's getting, he's getting.

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Speaker 19: You know, he's now on the the Schumer's gotta go.

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Speaker 19: I mean, this is a really fascinating dynamic because Hakeem

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Speaker 19: Jeffries sort of at the last moment decided to endorse

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Speaker 19: Mom Donnie.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and you can just feel.

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Speaker 19: Hakeem Jeffery's getting pulled in either direction. It's almost like

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Speaker 19: it's it's excruciating to watch on some level.

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Speaker 15: And he's trying. Now he's out attacking the Supreme Court

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Speaker 15: is corrupt. It's a clip I just I just saw.

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Speaker 19: It's almost like he's looking for avenues to advance positive

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Speaker 19: lines and to solidify his bona fides as a progress

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Speaker 19: in this caucus that is increasingly getting controlled.

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Speaker 15: By the radical left. So actually, I have the clip here.

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Speaker 19: Let's go ahead and play at Mark One's seventy one.

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Speaker 6: Cleaning up the corruption that exists in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 6: In the Congress, at the Supreme Court, and of course

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Speaker 6: with the Trump administration, the most corrupt administration in American history,

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Speaker 6: so we can actually deliver a country of the people,

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Speaker 6: by the people, and for the people.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be precise.

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Speaker 14: You say the Supreme Court has been corrupt?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what I'm saying is that the outrageous behavior by

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Speaker 6: individual justices like Clarence Thomas and Justice Alito and the

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Speaker 6: failure to have an ethical code of conduct is corrupt.

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Speaker 19: So what I translate this as Mark and you tell

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Speaker 19: me if I'm wrong here, is that this is him saying, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 19: I said that, I endorse Schumer. Schumer still got my

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Speaker 19: vote of confidence. But don't worry, progressive wing. I endorse Mom, Donnie.

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Speaker 19: And yes, if we get power back, we're going to

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Speaker 19: nuke the filibuster and we're going to pack the court.

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Speaker 1: All correct.

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Speaker 29: But I'll just say again my preferred prism currently is

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Speaker 29: not progressive versus moderate right. It's populous versus establishment. Hakim

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Speaker 29: Jeffries's establishment and you know that for based on his history,

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Speaker 29: but you also know it because he's one of the

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Speaker 29: few Democrats who's backing Schumer. He's an establishment figure, but

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Speaker 29: he knows the energy and the party is with the populace.

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Speaker 29: So he says things like, you know, he talks about

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Speaker 29: just like Rocanna talks about Jeffrey Epstein talks about corruption

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Speaker 29: in Washington, talks about special interests because that's the language

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Speaker 29: of the populace. And right now he and Schumer are

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Speaker 29: discombobulated because privately, therefore the establishment, they're not populous, they're

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Speaker 29: not fiery renegades trying to tear the house down.

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Speaker 15: They run the house, and so the power.

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Speaker 29: Structure recognizes as to try to keep power as long

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Speaker 29: as possible, you got to talk the language of the populace,

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Speaker 29: and that's what he's trying to do. But for Schumer

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Speaker 29: at least, it's not particularly convincing.

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Speaker 1: And that's why.

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Speaker 29: He's taking so much heat right now because nobody's buying it.

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Speaker 8: So about that ascendant populist thing, I'd say the biggest

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Speaker 8: populous story on the left is, of course, is all

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Speaker 8: run Mam Donnie runs from AYI of New York wins.

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Speaker 8: So do you think we might do you see that

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Speaker 8: basically this factional struggle is going to just be everyone

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Speaker 8: stares at New York sees what happens with Ma'm Donnie's government,

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Speaker 8: and if it.

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Speaker 1: Fails quickly, will that sap its energy?

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Speaker 8: Or do you think if he's able to do things

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Speaker 8: that that will drive it will drive the party further

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Speaker 8: to left. Maybe even if it's not that successful, it

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Speaker 8: still might drive the party to the left.

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Speaker 1: How do you see that plane out?

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Speaker 29: You're asking the right question, and I've got no idea

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Speaker 29: because we will depend on how he performs, but also

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Speaker 29: what his style is, how accommodation, how much he accommodates,

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Speaker 29: a picking a police commissioner, What kinds of things he

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Speaker 29: talks about, how much he you know, does he arrest

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Speaker 29: now and Yahoo? So I think it's I think it's

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Speaker 29: it's hard to know exactly how this will play out,

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Speaker 29: but there's no doubt that he.

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Speaker 1: Well, I shouldn't say no doubt.

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Speaker 29: He appears to want to have regular combat with the president,

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Speaker 29: which will keep him in the news. I think is

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Speaker 29: how he governs will keep him in the news. And

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Speaker 29: then his relationship to the governor's race where Kathy Hokele

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Speaker 29: was endorsed endorsed Mom Donnie, but hasn't been cope, you know,

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Speaker 29: reverse endorsed.

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Speaker 1: So he will be.

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Speaker 29: He will be a part of the storyline. How big

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Speaker 29: and what the variables are, I just don't know. And

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Speaker 29: I live here and I follow it closely. But I

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Speaker 29: think there's so many different ways he can go. I

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Speaker 29: will say that his election night speech freaked me out

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Speaker 29: as much as anything, because it suggested a level of

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Speaker 29: anger and determination to make this an OUs versus them

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Speaker 29: a governance that I think could be quite troubling for

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Speaker 29: a lot of people in this city.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and Mark, what are you going to be looking

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Speaker 19: for when he assumes office, when he gets the keys

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Speaker 19: to the city as it were. I mean, I'll just

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Speaker 19: tell you my first thing. You mentioned the police commissioner.

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Speaker 19: You know, he tried to moderate his tone when it

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Speaker 19: came to the NYPD. I think this guy has deep

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Speaker 19: seated distrust within the NYPD. He's going to tie their hands.

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Speaker 19: I mean, if you're a police officer and you're forced

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Speaker 19: to go, you know, arrest somebody in a street melee,

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Speaker 19: you know, good luck if something goes wrong this guy

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Speaker 19: have in your back. He's going to villainize you. You're

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Speaker 19: part of the established oppressive system that he's targeting he's

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Speaker 19: message towards. So those are the things I'm looking for.

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Speaker 19: But again, New York is, of most cities, one of

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Speaker 19: the most resilient in the world. These people, I mean,

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Speaker 19: if you love New York, you don't want to leave

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Speaker 19: New York. It's there's too much cultures, too much, too

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Speaker 19: many restaurants, too many, like just the style of life.

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Speaker 19: You can't emulate that easily in other American cities.

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Speaker 15: What are you looking for? One minute, Mark Calprin.

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Speaker 29: How could you not mention that kinish look? He said

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Speaker 29: he's going to keep on the current police commissioner. Let's

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Speaker 29: see if he does. There's some indication he's not really

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Speaker 29: secured or pledged to do it. You mentioned arrests, worried

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Speaker 29: about some you know, a cop killing somebody accidentally, and

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Speaker 29: then he shows up at the scene and does he

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Speaker 29: defend the cop or does he attack the cop. This

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Speaker 29: city has seen a huge rationing down of the kind

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Speaker 29: of racial tensions we saw several decades ago when there

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Speaker 29: was non stop, these NonStop, combustible events. I worry about

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Speaker 29: a return to those depending on how he handles it.

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Speaker 29: And again, his election night speech made it harder for

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Speaker 29: me to tell people to have hope or calm down,

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Speaker 29: or let's wait and see. I'm certainly amongst those concerned

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Speaker 29: about how hand or handle those kind of high pressure situations.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think I think Blake's right to sort of

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Speaker 19: look to the you know this, these first few tests

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Speaker 19: that are coming out of the Mom Donnie era in

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Speaker 19: New York to see what what direction the the the

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Speaker 19: whole city goes, Because I mean, he is a bellweather

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Speaker 19: for the future of the populist free stuff, free stuff,

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Speaker 19: left wing populism that that's bubbling up all across the country.

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Speaker 19: One more segment with you, Mark in just a second.

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Speaker 19: Halprin in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 19: to check them out. Mark Halprin in two seconds. All right,

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Speaker 19: welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined

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Speaker 19: by Mark Halprin, hosted next up on the magn Kelly Network,

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Speaker 19: editor in chief of two Way Great program Mark. So,

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Speaker 19: you know, we talked about this left wing populism. Charlie

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Speaker 19: predicted rise and ascendency, and obviously MAGA was the beginning

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Speaker 19: of this populous wave in the United States. But you know,

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Speaker 19: there's growing consternation on the right that perhaps we're losing touch,

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Speaker 19: maybe the administration is losing touch with the base. Trump

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Speaker 19: has this interview with Laura Ingram last night. We'll just

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Speaker 19: give you a taste of it. I can't tell you

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Speaker 19: how many people are texting me clips going like, did.

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Speaker 15: He really just say that? Play cut one twenty.

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Speaker 9: Two when somebody makes a statement about he's devoting.

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Speaker 13: Time to the world, Well, the world is the.

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Speaker 9: United States because of the world's in trouble, or if

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Speaker 9: the world is ripping us off, it's easy to say, oh,

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Speaker 9: don't worry about the world, but the world is turning

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Speaker 9: out to be our biggest customer. The world is the

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Speaker 9: world was on fire and we.

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Speaker 25: Could have been in that fire very easily if you

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Speaker 25: didn't have a president that knew what he was doing.

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Speaker 19: So obviously black mark the word there or the phrase there.

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Speaker 19: The world is the United States. I think, you know,

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Speaker 19: keyed off the America first psyche and to be diplomatic though,

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Speaker 19: And actually I think what he was trying to say

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Speaker 19: was that if you don't, if the world's out of control,

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Speaker 19: we're gonna have we're gonna have a real hard time

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Speaker 19: finding peace and prosperity here at home. You have to

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Speaker 19: put out the fires when they when they come up.

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Speaker 19: I know what he was saying. I think people are

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Speaker 19: making too much of it, but there is this this

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Speaker 19: note that we're focusing too much on foreign policy not

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Speaker 19: enough on domestic policy. Is that what you're seeing in

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Speaker 19: the polling, the trends, the conversation, uh that that you're

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Speaker 19: hearing in your circles mark.

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Speaker 29: The populace of both parties, whether it's MAGA or Bernie

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Speaker 29: Sanders supporters, they're like, come home America. You know, you

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Speaker 29: know it sounds like Romney saying corporations are people too.

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Speaker 29: And look, being commander in chief, you've got responsibilities. And

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Speaker 29: the president's view of how to make America successful, as

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Speaker 29: you said, is to be more engaged economically with the

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Speaker 29: world in a way that's advantageous to the United States,

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Speaker 29: and not turn the back on countries who we can

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Speaker 29: help help themselves and have more allies.

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Speaker 1: So I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 29: I think that the proof will be for so many

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Speaker 29: of the answers to some of these questions for both

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Speaker 29: the establishment of the party and and MAGA is what

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Speaker 29: will the economy be like at the end of all?

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Speaker 15: This is the key we have so flip here.

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Speaker 8: I think some people have the you know, it can

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Speaker 8: sometimes the framing is they're not focused on the domestics

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Speaker 8: sphere enough. But it also is possible maybe the domestic

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Speaker 8: sphere is just not super popular, right now, and let's

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Speaker 8: set that up.

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Speaker 17: Trump spoke with Laura Ingram. Let's play one seventy six.

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Speaker 25: Down on energy, down on interest rate.

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Speaker 9: You know, interest rates are down despite the Fed of

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Speaker 9: the Fed. If we had a normal person that the

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Speaker 9: FED would have really low interest rates, and we will

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Speaker 9: soon have that.

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Speaker 3: We'll have somebody.

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Speaker 10: Then, why are people saying they're anxious about the economy.

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Speaker 14: Why are they saying that?

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Speaker 9: I don't know that they are saying.

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Speaker 14: I think polls are fake.

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Speaker 9: We have the greatest economy we've ever had. We have

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Speaker 9: we will have over twenty three come into our economy,

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Speaker 9: and it's largely because of my election, but it's also

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Speaker 9: largely because of Tariff's all.

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Speaker 19: Right, So, Mark, you are inside the Oval office, you

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Speaker 19: have the president's ear for thirty minutes, and you're giving

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Speaker 19: him messaging advice. Given this dynamic on the on the

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Speaker 19: domestic front, what is your advice to President Trump on

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Speaker 19: how to message this?

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Speaker 29: Well, I'm not in the business of giving messaging advice

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Speaker 29: to any politicians, but just looking at the polling and

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Speaker 29: talking to a lot of voters, it really doesn't matter

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Speaker 29: how you message it. Is the economy going to be

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Speaker 29: better next year or not the economies. There's a lot

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Speaker 29: of strong signs, not just the stock market, there are

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Speaker 29: other strong signs, but people are still really uneasy about

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Speaker 29: the economy. And it's pretty simple, not just for a

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Speaker 29: president who put affordability and the economy front and center,

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Speaker 29: but for any president. Will people before the midterms, Will

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Speaker 29: people at the end of his presidency say, yeah, that

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Speaker 29: guy had a theory of the case about how to

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Speaker 29: make our lives better, particularly on the economy. I don't

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Speaker 29: think it matters how message you said. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 29: there's ways to do it that are worse than others,

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Speaker 29: but that's people are looking for messaging. They're looking for

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Speaker 29: their lives to get better and more affordable.

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Speaker 19: So Mark, you're basically saying twenty twenty six comes down

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Speaker 19: to maybe some of these redistricting battles, but it's the economy, stupid.

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Speaker 15: And the second follow.

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Speaker 19: Up question more than anything else. Yeah, Yeah, follow up

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Speaker 19: question is the Hispanic vote. One of the things I'm

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Speaker 19: looking at is we're engineering these maps in Texas based

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Speaker 19: on Hispanic vote modeled off at twenty twenty four. I'm concerned,

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Speaker 19: especially with the economy, that that's going to have a big,

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Speaker 19: outsized impact with the Hispanic community.

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Speaker 29: The data in polling and on election day last week

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Speaker 29: makes it clear that President Trump did not create a

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Speaker 29: ach realignment moving the Hispanic vote or particularly young Hispanic

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Speaker 29: man from the Democrat comps or Republican calm. What happened

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Speaker 29: was because of Biden Harris and somewhat because of the

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Speaker 29: President's appeal, they shipped it away from the Democrats and

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Speaker 29: they park temporarily on Trump. Will they realign towards Republicans

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Speaker 29: like in that Texas district or around the country.

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Speaker 1: Are they up for grabs?

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Speaker 29: We don't know, because it may have simply been the

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Speaker 29: combination of Trump on the ballot and Biden Harris policies

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Speaker 29: that moved them.

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Speaker 1: And here's an irony.

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Speaker 29: The more the President remakes our culture and makes it

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Speaker 29: less politically correct, the harder it is for Republicans to

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Speaker 29: win Hispanic votes because they no longer have to that

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Speaker 29: to play off of and sail against Mark Alprine.

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Speaker 15: You assume, Thank you, my friend. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 14: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice newsbreak. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 24: President Trump started this Veteran's Day off by honoring the

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Speaker 24: men and women who have served this country in the

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Speaker 24: armed forces. Real America's voice was there as he laid

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Speaker 24: this wreath at Arlington National Cemetery, the Commander in Chief

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Speaker 24: also opering up remarks before members of his habnet, as

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Speaker 24: well as the Vice President.

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Speaker 25: American flag has always been shielded and protected by a

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Speaker 25: special cast of citizen who has stepped forward to safeguard

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Speaker 25: liberties cause when danger came, when duty called, when Almighty

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Speaker 25: God asked who had the will and the strength to

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Speaker 25: defend the land of the Free, each and every American

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Speaker 25: veteran stood up and said, here I am, Send.

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Speaker 5: Me here I am.

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Speaker 25: They've come from every corner of this nation, from the

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Speaker 25: cornfields of Iowa to the hills and valleys of California,

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Speaker 25: from the steel towns of Pennsylvania to the vast plains

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Speaker 25: of Texas, from the banks of the Mighty Mississippi to

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Speaker 25: the Five Boroughs of New York City. With selfless commitment

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Speaker 25: and unyielding conviction, they made themselves America's ramparts and became

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Speaker 25: the shield between our home and those who would do

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Speaker 25: us harm. With everything they had, they did one thing

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Speaker 25: above all else.

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Speaker 17: They put America first.

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Speaker 24: Meantime, House Speaker Mike Johnson is calling lawmakers in his

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Speaker 24: chamber back to Washington, saying that he'd like to pass

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Speaker 24: a measure to reopen the government as soon as tomorrow.

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Speaker 24: All of this comes after eight Senate Democrats crossed the

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Speaker 24: aisle to vote with Republicans in order to pass a

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Speaker 24: compromise to end what is now the longest government shutdown

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Speaker 24: in US history. The sixty to forty vote sets up

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Speaker 24: a December vote on expiring Affordable Care Act subsidies, which

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Speaker 24: is what Democrats have been holding out for. Government agencies,

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Speaker 24: by the way, would now be funded through January thirtieth,

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Speaker 24: Plus the Snap food benefit program, which has been disputed

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Speaker 24: during the current shutdown, would be fully funded until September

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Speaker 24: of next year.

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Speaker 14: That's a great check of your headlines. Speaking the truth.

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Speaker 5: No one else has the guts to say. The Charlie

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Speaker 5: Kirk Show.

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Speaker 19: All right, we here at the Charlie Kirkshow we realize

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Speaker 19: you have a lot of choices when it comes to

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Speaker 19: who you choose for your cell phone service. But I

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Speaker 19: am here to tell you I have worked with a

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Speaker 19: lot of them. I wouldn't say all of them, because

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Speaker 19: there are new ones popping up all the time. But

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Speaker 19: the best one and the one that represents your values

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Speaker 19: and they have great customer service. For more than twelve years,

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Speaker 19: Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines fighting for

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Speaker 19: your God given rights and freedoms while also providing exceptional

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Speaker 19: nationwide cell phone service with access to all three of

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Speaker 19: the major networks. And like I do, I'd have two

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Speaker 19: of them on my phone at the dual sim and

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Speaker 19: I recommend it to everyone.

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Speaker 15: Switching is easier than ever.

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Speaker 19: care of you. Call nine seven to two Patriot today.

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Speaker 19: or go to Patriot Mobile dot com slash Charlie Patriotmobile

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Speaker 19: dot com slash Charlie. Use the promo code Charlie for

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Speaker 19: a free month of service. That's Patriockmobile dot com slash Charlie.

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Speaker 19: Or call nine seven two Patriot and make the switch today.

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Speaker 19: Glenn and the team are phenomenal. Phenomenal people support them entirely.

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Speaker 19: I am very excited about our next guest here on

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Speaker 19: The Charlie Kirk Show, and that is Selena Zito. She

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Speaker 19: is a reporter for the Washington Examiner, and she was

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Speaker 19: getting Trump truthed all over yesterday about some of her

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Speaker 19: reporting on the youth vote, and so I thought it

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Speaker 19: was only appropriate that we brought in Mikey McCoy, who's,

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Speaker 19: you know, like the U whisper these days, he's doing

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Speaker 19: phenomenal work. So Selena, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 19: Mikey also welcome. I'm excited to have this conversation at

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Speaker 19: Selena welcome.

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Speaker 13: Hey, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well, listen, you're somebody that I've wanted to have

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Speaker 19: on the show for a while, and I thought this

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Speaker 19: would be a great opportunity. I also want to say,

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Speaker 19: we're going to get to it here in this segment

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Speaker 19: that your book New York Times bestseller, Butler You're one, Yes,

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Speaker 19: number one, and you went in depth on the assassination

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Speaker 19: attempt on Trump, and that was originally why I wanted

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Speaker 19: to have you on, just because you know, obviously the

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Speaker 19: tragedy with Charlie, it hits very close to home. You

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Speaker 19: went in depth with the president, you interviewed him, you

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Speaker 19: got a lot of behind the scenes details there. So

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Speaker 19: please everybody check out Butler by Selena Zito. So let's

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Speaker 19: get into the first topic up forbids. Here is this

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Speaker 19: youth vote. Tell us about your article. What are you finding,

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Speaker 19: what are you seeing?

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Speaker 28: So what's really interesting to me is throughout the book Butler,

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Speaker 28: because people think it's only about.

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Speaker 13: What happened in Butler, but.

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Speaker 28: It actually takes a look at the heartland and what

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Speaker 28: was happening last year, but also what it is continuing

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Speaker 28: to happen, and that is this youth movement towards faith

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Speaker 28: and towards conservative populism.

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Speaker 13: And how you know how I.

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Speaker 28: Kept seeing it over and over again in Pennsylvania. I

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Speaker 28: wrote about it and I said, guys, something's going on here, right,

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Speaker 28: And a lot of these young people I talked to

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Speaker 28: and it's in the book, said well, they were first

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Speaker 28: inspired by listening to Charlie and having their sort of

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Speaker 28: conceived thoughts changed because of the way that he introduced

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Speaker 28: faith into their lives, and ultimately it led to also

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Speaker 28: becoming conservative voters and understanding the importance of voting now, however,

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Speaker 28: a sense what happened to Charlie happened what I have seen,

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Speaker 28: you know, in particular in western Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 13: That's where I live.

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Speaker 28: I know, I'm a Washington Post Washington Examiner reporter, but

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Speaker 28: I live in the middle.

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Speaker 13: Of the country.

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Speaker 28: And you know, I see these young people showing up.

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Speaker 28: You can see the pictures there that's showing up for

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Speaker 28: these for these revivals.

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Speaker 13: Uh and and and there's a real.

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Speaker 28: Sort of awakening going on with young people that is

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Speaker 28: getting largely missed by my profession.

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Speaker 13: But it's very real, it's very profound. And I even

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Speaker 13: you know, not only.

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Speaker 28: But been covering these revivals in Western PA. But I

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Speaker 28: also see it in my own parish. I'm Catholic, and

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Speaker 28: I see my church going from like okay, almost filled

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Speaker 28: to like around the pews and out the door filled.

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Speaker 13: So there, and these are young people that are attending.

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Speaker 28: And and so I think it's a very interesting saying

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Speaker 28: that is happening in the country.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and Mikey, you went with Charlie to just about

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Speaker 19: every single campus stop. I mean maybe you missed a

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Speaker 19: few over the last couple of years, but we saw

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Speaker 19: this firsthand.

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Speaker 15: You saw it firsthand.

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Speaker 19: What was it about Charlie's message that you could tell

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Speaker 19: was just connecting, You know, that that moment where the

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Speaker 19: eyes light up and there's just that that aha moment

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Speaker 19: with young people.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, there's this great clip of Charlie debating a leftist

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Speaker 30: and he's talking about how Wall Street is purchasing a

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Speaker 30: bunch of the homes and Charlie agrees with him that

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Speaker 30: that should not happen, and the leftist kind of goes, uh, oh,

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Speaker 30: I agree with you. And so Charlie was kind of

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Speaker 30: the only one who was able to capture the energy

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Speaker 30: of this youth populism that you referred to here. But

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Speaker 30: this is also a warning sign for us that now

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Speaker 30: with Charlie being gone, turning point Erica under her leadership,

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Speaker 30: has done a great job with these events last night

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Speaker 30: at Berkeley, you know, Auburn Ole miss and just helping

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Speaker 30: capture that energy, but also the future of the political

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Speaker 30: movement in the economic reality of under thirties, and so

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Speaker 30: you see dark political radicalization setting in for a lot

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Speaker 30: of these youth.

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Speaker 1: I mean, three.

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Speaker 30: Of the biggest assassins in the past twelve months have

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Speaker 30: been gen Z and so you saw the Ugov poll

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Speaker 30: that says, you know, political violence is acceptable.

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Speaker 15: From eighteen to thirty six year.

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Speaker 30: Olds, and so you kind of see this radicalization of

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Speaker 30: the youth. But then you also see it with their

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Speaker 30: economic reality. Rents are at an all time high. First

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Speaker 30: time home buyers are at forty years old, median home

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Speaker 30: buyers are at sixty one years old. Of the assets

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Speaker 30: owned in the United States, I think we have a

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Speaker 30: photo of this. I think it's one seventy four of

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Speaker 30: the assets owned in the United States, baby boomer zone

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Speaker 30: about fifty percent of it. Gen z really doesn't even

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Speaker 30: have any stake in the US economy right now, and

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Speaker 30: so they're churning to radicalization, which is kind of what

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Speaker 30: you saw with Zoron Mom Donnie this last with his

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Speaker 30: massive win, and you saw actually modern conservatives and conservatives

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Speaker 30: voting for Zoron Mom Donny had a seven percent rate

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01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 30: in a nine percent rate in New York City. And

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01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 30: this is because they're seeing something that we're not. And

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Speaker 30: so I just what do you guys make of this?

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01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 30: How do you see a solution for young people? Because

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Speaker 30: I'm the resident gen z Or in the studio, but

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 30: I want to hear from you guys.

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Speaker 15: Well, you think it's silly to Mikey brings up a

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Speaker 15: good point.

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Speaker 19: There's a temptation to think that we have this on

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01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 19: lock now, but really a lot of these people are

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01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 19: politically homeless. They're willing to park their vote with Trump

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Speaker 19: if he could deliver the goods.

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Speaker 15: And I think that the verdict is still out on that.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, And that's a constant in American politics, right.

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Speaker 13: People tend to switch back.

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Speaker 28: And forth depending on who is speaking to them. And

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Speaker 28: one of the most important aspects in American politics is

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Speaker 28: is how do you speak to the voter about place right,

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01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 28: their rootedness, you know, that thing, that connective tissue that

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Speaker 28: makes them want to invest in stay where they are right,

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Speaker 28: to have that stability. You know, it's eight out of

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Speaker 28: ten young Americans live within was it twenty miles of their.

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Speaker 13: Home, their hometown like where they grew up.

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Speaker 28: So they want to be rooted. So who's speaking to that.

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01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 28: In the twenty twenty four election, that was what Trump

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01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 28: spoke to and JD.

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Speaker 13: Van spoke to.

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Speaker 28: They addressed people in their place and they told them

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Speaker 28: your place matters, you matter.

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Speaker 13: And I think that.

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Speaker 28: That is a concept that is not always apparent to people.

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Speaker 28: I think Charlie was very good about speaking to place

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Speaker 28: as well.

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Speaker 13: But the politician that.

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Speaker 28: Speaks to it sort of captures.

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Speaker 13: The imagination, in particular if you're young. And that's what

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Speaker 13: Zoon did.

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Speaker 28: He showed up and he said, I see you, and

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Speaker 28: I'm going to make everything better. He is not going

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Speaker 28: to get half of what he said. He's going to

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Speaker 28: get free childcare for all between six months, six weeks,

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Speaker 28: and six years old. That's not going to happen. I

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Speaker 28: don't know who can pay for that, right, rent control,

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Speaker 28: free public transportation. But he showed up with a smile

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01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 28: and he said I can do it. And that is

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Speaker 28: what you have to pay attention to when you're leading

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Speaker 28: a movement.

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Speaker 13: And the conservatives have to say that, all.

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Speaker 28: Right, New York City isn't really where we would probably

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Speaker 28: win a battle anyways. However, how do we capture how

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Speaker 28: do we maintain that conversation about place, because when it

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Speaker 28: comes to place, it also comes to family, it comes

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Speaker 28: to faith, it comes to community. All those social fabrics

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Speaker 28: that people crave, that purpose people crave are part of place.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and you know, we had on the right this

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Speaker 19: week and a debate about fifty year mortgages erupt right,

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01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 19: you know, so Trump kind of floats this will be

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Speaker 19: I'll be honest with you. The emails to this show

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Speaker 19: freedom at Charliekirk dot com they were more positive than

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Speaker 19: I was anticipating. A lot of people saw it as

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Speaker 19: like a pragmatic step that was something that they could

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Speaker 19: use if they needed and then you know, refinance down

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Speaker 19: to a more traditional thirty year or something like that.

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Speaker 19: I was surprised there was still a lot of negative.

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Speaker 19: I'm not convinced, and it's not the silver bullet, right,

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 19: It's not going to the end all be all. But

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01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 19: when you look at guys like in Mikey's position, a

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01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 19: gen Zer looking to get ahead, you know, these kind.

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Speaker 15: Of ideas we need to start talking about.

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Speaker 19: I think we need an economic moonshot for gen Z,

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Speaker 19: and frankly, we need a better phrase than economic moonshot,

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 19: because gen Z doesn't it's probably not even sure what

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01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 19: I'm talking about when I.

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Speaker 15: Say an economic moonshot.

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Speaker 19: So so Mikey floors to you, like the economics of

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01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 19: it all, I think is incredibly important here.

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Speaker 15: What are people saying in your age bracket?

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Speaker 30: Yeah, you're right in that New York City isn't a

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01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 30: place necessarily that Republicans can win, but it is a

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Speaker 30: Canarian the coal mine with what's happening as this youth

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01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 30: populism movement is happening, and this is a huge warning

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01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 30: sign not just in the midterms, but also for the

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01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 30: twenty twenty eight presidential election. Young people are going to

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Speaker 30: start turning to radical candidates if there aren't solutions, and

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Speaker 30: I'm talking total economic reality has to change for these people,

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Speaker 30: and they're going to start turning to AOC as a

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Speaker 30: presidential candidate.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I would.

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Speaker 30: I think it's more likely that AOC is going to

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Speaker 30: be a candidate for young people than Gavin Newsom when

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01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 30: it comes to left, and I think a lot of

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01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 30: young people on the right too would turn to a

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01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 30: candidate like that. But we can't afford a home. We

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01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 30: have student loans that are crushing us. We have fifty

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01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 30: eight percent of college grads graduate college and then for

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01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 30: their first year they're unemployed. So there's no the job

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01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 30: market is shrinking, the labor market shrinking, there's no jobs

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01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 30: for the degrees that they had. The student loans are

1635
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 30: an all time high. Credit card debt is that an

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01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 30: all time high? With crushing ap wise, it's just it's

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01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:16,560
Speaker 30: totally killing young people, and we're gonna turn to radical solutions,

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01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 30: even if it is Mom Donnie smiling and giving us

1639
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 30: a promise that won't happen, and eventually this could destroy

1640
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 30: our country. So the right needs to start asking themselves questions.

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01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 30: You know, fifty year mortgages, maybe that's not the best

1642
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 30: idea for young people in this country, and they need

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01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 30: to start reaching out to young people. I thought it

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01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 30: was amazing that jd Vance, he comes to mind in

1645
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 30: particular and old miss he was talking about this stuff,

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01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 30: but then he also wants to do more of these

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Speaker 30: with young people.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's the only.

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Speaker 30: Person right now, him and Erica Kirk that are actually

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Speaker 30: going out and engaging young.

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Speaker 15: People in the US.

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Speaker 19: You know, it's funny is if you had a fifty

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Speaker 19: year mortgage, the medium home buying age is forty, so

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Speaker 19: you would be you would be ninety by the time you.

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Speaker 15: Paid off that mortgage. A little bit disconcerta more with.

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Speaker 15: When we get back in just a moment, the next.

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Speaker 1: Great Awakening is here.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 19: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Selena

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Speaker 19: Zito and Mike McCoy got a quick little segment here,

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Speaker 19: but I want to make sure that you see some

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Speaker 19: of these data points, throw up one oh nine. This

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01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 19: is Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen. He said Trump's approval for

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Speaker 19: voters under thirty was sixty percent in March. Now it's

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01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 19: thirty five percent, and Mom Downie favorability is sixty two percent.

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Speaker 19: With like a shrug emoji. All right, Uh, let's go

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Speaker 19: one ten. This from Melissa Chan. Young women voted eighty

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Speaker 19: one percent for Mom Donnie in New York City, eighty

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Speaker 19: percent for Cheryl in New Jersey, seventy eight percent for

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Speaker 19: Spanberger and Va pendulum shift from the podcast Bros.

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Speaker 15: Just a year ago to.

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Speaker 19: The Longhouse, and then when you actually do dive into

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Speaker 19: the conservative numbers, throw up one forty two. This is

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Speaker 19: who's your ideal candidate in twenty twenty eight ages eighteen

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Speaker 19: to twenty nine. Donald Trump Junior actually is at twenty

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Speaker 19: eight percent, Vance is at twenty five percent, Crew sixteen

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Speaker 19: desantus at six percent. So we're seeing not only some

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Speaker 19: I would say noise in the data, but we're also

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Speaker 19: seeing these wild fluctuations that we're gonna discuss in the

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Speaker 19: next segment when we welcome back National Radio. I'm gonna

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Speaker 19: throw to you Selena to make sense of what we

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Speaker 19: of this wild swing for voters under thirty. We're gonna

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Speaker 19: welcome back radio in about three seconds and we'll be

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Speaker 19: right there.

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Speaker 23: All right, History, economics, the great works of literature.

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Speaker 19: Did you study these things in school? You probably didn't,

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Speaker 19: on four in depth on four novels, nineteen eighty four,

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Speaker 19: Brave New World, Darkness at Noon, and that Hideous Strength.

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Speaker 19: Even though these novels were written in the nineteen thirties

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Speaker 19: and forties, they are highly relevant today.

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Speaker 15: They've stood the test of time.

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Speaker 19: You got to check them out read them again if

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Speaker 19: for Hillsdale dot Com. So, Selena, I just showed you

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Speaker 19: in the previous little segment that you saw Trump's approval

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Speaker 19: rating with under thirties. It was at sixty percent. Now

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Speaker 19: it's kind of tanking. What do we need to do

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Speaker 19: to get this back on track?

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Speaker 28: So we are in I always say history doesn't repeat

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Speaker 28: it to that kind of rhymes.

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Speaker 13: A lot of other people say that too, But.

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Speaker 28: You know, we are in the middle of a really

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Speaker 28: turbulent economic time, not very distant and different than the

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Speaker 28: Industrial Revolution, only this is more like a technological revolution,

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Speaker 28: right with AI and how it's disrupting our economy and and.

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Speaker 13: And so we have to look back at what happened then.

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Speaker 28: There was great fluctuations between Democrats and Republican wild swings

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Speaker 28: hundreds of seats each every two years between the in

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Speaker 28: Congress as.

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Speaker 13: Well as presidents.

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Speaker 28: We switched presidents every four years, and so they're what

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Speaker 28: are the lessons learned?

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Speaker 13: Well, a lot of these these men and.

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Speaker 28: Women that ran back there talked over the people that

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Speaker 28: were feeling that that shift from an ag an ag

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Speaker 28: economy to an industrial economy, and they didn't address their needs.

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Speaker 13: What the Republican is, what Trump needs to do, what

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Speaker 13: Fancy needs to do, and I think.

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Speaker 28: They're both very good at it is go where the

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Speaker 28: voter is, go where the people are, and show that

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Speaker 28: empathy about what their concerns are.

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Speaker 13: I think that goes a long way. I think that's

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Speaker 13: what Mondamie did well. I always expected him to win

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Speaker 13: New York.

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Speaker 28: I also never expected the Republicans to win Virginia and

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Speaker 28: New Jersey, so they were you know, slightly flawed candidates

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Speaker 28: as well. So I think going to where the voter is, going,

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Speaker 28: where the economic distress is, tell that person, Tell young people,

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Speaker 28: I see you, I feel you, I hear you. I

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Speaker 28: mean when I was twenty five, when I was under

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Speaker 28: thirty terrible economic times in Pittsburgh, all the steel industry died.

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Speaker 28: I bought my first home and it was fourteen percent

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Speaker 28: interest rate and I lived, you know.

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Speaker 13: Like paycheck to baycheck, maybe not even that well.

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Speaker 28: So I completely understand that what you need to do

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Speaker 28: is talk to that person about that empathy.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well said, and Mikey, I think we need a big, audacious,

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Speaker 19: bold visual idea like groundbreaking on like a million homes

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Speaker 19: or something.

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Speaker 15: You know, But what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, you were there on the ground when you saw

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Speaker 19: the surge of momentum behind the Trump campaign in twenty

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Speaker 19: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, young people the best.

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Speaker 30: And I want to praise President Trump here because he's

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Speaker 30: done an excellent job with this already with the two

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Speaker 30: million plus deportations in southern border being secured at ninety

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Speaker 30: nine point ninety nine percent. But that is the best

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Speaker 30: way that you can help young people economically with housing,

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Speaker 30: just all around economically, and that's the fastest and easiest way.

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Speaker 30: But also I just want to kind of point out

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Speaker 30: that during the election trail, the top three TikTok accounts

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Speaker 30: where President Trump, Team Trump and Charlie Kirk and they

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Speaker 30: really knew how to message young people. And I feel

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Speaker 30: like that shouldn't stop. I feel like we need to

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Speaker 30: continue that messaging to young people and try try to

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Speaker 30: aim to be the top one, two and three accounts

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Speaker 30: on TikTok for reaching young people and giving them their

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Speaker 30: design content.

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Speaker 15: That's what we're gonna do with your TikTok. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 15: your job.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, but I just think President Trump think you keep

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Speaker 30: deporting people, make more jobs, lower the you know, make

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Speaker 30: build more homes in our country.

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Speaker 1: He's been doing a fantastic job.

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Speaker 30: We just need to continue it and continue the messaging

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Speaker 30: for it.

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Speaker 1: Young people need to know that this is happening.

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Speaker 30: But this momentum is continuing under Erica Kirk's leadership at

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Speaker 30: Turning Point USA, with all these campus stops, it's really

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Speaker 30: encouraging to see.

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Speaker 15: Selena. We've got like fifteen seconds for you. Tell us

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Speaker 15: about the book, where to get it?

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Speaker 19: You know, how do we how do we follow you?

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Speaker 19: Tell us your cordin Well, you can.

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Speaker 28: Follow me on Twitter, Zito Selena and z I t

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Speaker 28: O U s A l E n A. The book

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Speaker 28: is Butler number one New.

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Speaker 13: York Times bestseller.

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Speaker 28: It's not just about that day I was only four

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Speaker 28: feet away from the president, but it is what's happening

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Speaker 28: on the ground, in particular with young people.

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Speaker 15: Amen. Selena, You're amazing. Thank you for joining making the time.

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Speaker 15: We'll see you guys tomorrow.