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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of Iyheart Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm any Res and I'm Lauren vogel Baum, and today

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Speaker 2: we have an episode for you about McCormick.

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Speaker 1: Yes, not our friend Joe McCormick, who I do know.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh Joe is so good. Uh no, the

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Speaker 1: company McCormick. Yes. Well, is there any particular reason this

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Speaker 1: was on your mind? Lauren?

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Speaker 2: Uh well, certainly not because they're a sponsor, which they

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Speaker 2: are not currently reach out. I don't know, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's been They've been kind of in the back of

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Speaker 2: my head for a minute because they're so omnipresent. And

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Speaker 2: I was like, what's up with that company? I bet

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Speaker 2: that's a weird story, and lo.

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Speaker 1: It is lo and behold, Yes, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of us do during the holidays reach for

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Speaker 1: a lot of McCormick brand spices. I did find it

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Speaker 1: funny how many articles I found. McCormick has done some

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Speaker 1: really interesting ad campaigns over the years, and one of

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Speaker 1: them was about like check the expiration date on your spice.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, oh dear. Yeah, And I've found a lot

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Speaker 1: of really funny articles about people being like, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: how dare they tell me to do that and they

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Speaker 1: find one ten years old. Yeah. So, and you know

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Speaker 1: during the holidays sometimes you only use certain things around

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Speaker 1: certain periods of the year, sure, or like in in bulk,

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Speaker 1: not bulk as the very but you know, more than usual.

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Speaker 1: And so it was funny.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, especially when you like integrate households or anything

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Speaker 2: like that. I somehow, and there are a few things

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Speaker 2: that I feel like you wind up buying more of

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Speaker 2: without needing because you're like, do I have clothes? Heck it,

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Speaker 2: I'll just get a bottle of clothes. And that's how

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Speaker 2: you wind up with like five bottles of whole clothes

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Speaker 2: sitting in your cupboard. And that's too many clothes. That

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Speaker 2: is objectively more clothes than anybody needs.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do the same. And the part of

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Speaker 1: it is due to my lack of organization, because when

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Speaker 1: I'm tired, I'm just like, where can I fit this here? Here?

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Speaker 1: And then later I'll be like I could have sworn

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Speaker 1: I bought more ginger, and then I'll go buy more

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Speaker 1: and then I find over that I haven't opened yet

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Speaker 1: or anything. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Well we're not alone

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Speaker 1: in that problem, and McCormick made a whole ad campaign

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Speaker 1: about it. They also did one of those spice girls.

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Speaker 1: They tried to do one of the spice girls and

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Speaker 1: it fell through. But anyway, Oh yeah, I would say, uh,

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Speaker 1: see our Old Bay episode because a lot of the

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Speaker 1: things I was reading turned into an article not about McCormick,

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Speaker 1: but Old Bay. All right, Old Bay seasoning. So see

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Speaker 1: that episode we did on that one and then other spices.

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Speaker 1: They actually are involved in a lot more than I

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Speaker 1: realized they were involved with. But yeah, other spices, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which I guess brings us to our question. Sure, McCormick,

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Speaker 1: what is it? Well.

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Speaker 2: McCormick and Company, Incorporated is a corporation that produces and

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Speaker 2: sells several brands of herbs, spices, sauces, condiments, and dressings,

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Speaker 2: both to consumers and to like the food manufacturing and

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Speaker 2: service industry at a global level. They also create custom

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Speaker 2: flavorings for the food and beverage industry and the health

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Speaker 2: and wellness industry, and fund a bunch of research into

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Speaker 2: the potential health benefits of herbs and spices and the

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Speaker 2: science of like how humans experience taste. If you are

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Speaker 2: in North America or Europe, I would be willing to bet.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a betting man, but I would be willing

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Speaker 2: to bet that you've got something that they have touched

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Speaker 2: in your home right now, and if you're anywhere else, like, chances.

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Speaker 1: Are still pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They are huge, and they are omnipresent. They're like if

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Speaker 2: Santa was a flavor corporation. They know when you've been sleeping,

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Speaker 2: they know you have clothes, yes, yes, Oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but they do. I wanted to read this explanation of

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Speaker 2: what they do from their corporate website because I really

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Speaker 2: adore like corporate website speak all right, and I quote,

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Speaker 2: McCormick and Company, Incorporated is a global leader in flavor.

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Speaker 2: With our diverse and balanced flavor portfolio, we are ideally

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Speaker 2: positioned to meet the increasing demand for flavor around the world.

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Speaker 1: Flavors. Okay, I don't know how they made it sound

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Speaker 1: so sinister.

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Speaker 2: They did, I don't think, I mean, I mean, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't just me anyway. In the United States alone, the

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Speaker 2: McCormick brand alone, Like they have other brands, but they

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Speaker 2: have a brand that's just McCormick. That brand sells at

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Speaker 2: least one hundred and four varieties of like spice rack

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Speaker 2: jars of herbs and spices, and blends thereof. They also

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Speaker 2: sell ninety three varieties of like seasoning and sauce starter

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Speaker 2: packets for everything from stir fries to pasta, to chili,

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Speaker 2: instapop pot roast. They furthermore got twenty five varieties of

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Speaker 2: on top of finished dishes, three products meant solely to

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Speaker 2: help the texture of your finished food, and currently six

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Speaker 2: varieties of flavored finishing sugar for your holiday sweets. And

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Speaker 2: again that is just their like basic home brand marketed

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Speaker 2: to consumers product line. Wow, Yeah, they're doing a lot,

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Speaker 2: they are.

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Speaker 1: They are.

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Speaker 2: They also own about thirty different brands that are popular

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Speaker 2: in different areas around the world. And I didn't look

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Speaker 2: up how to say all of these from other countries,

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Speaker 2: so I'm giving it my best shot, and I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: if I'm butchering it. Okay, But from the US, there's

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Speaker 2: familiar stuff like Chilula, frenches, Frank's Red Hot, Lowry's Old

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Speaker 2: Bay Stubs, Barbecue, Elguappo, Simply, Asia, Thai Kitchen and Zatarines.

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Speaker 2: Then there's Clubhouse in Canada, Schwartz and the UK, Silvo

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Speaker 2: in the Netherlands and Portugal, Giotti in Italy, Chemists Chemis

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Speaker 2: in Poland, Ducros in France, and Aeroplane in Australia. And

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Speaker 2: some of these brands include like ready to prepare or

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Speaker 2: In addition to herbs and spices, they produce spice blends

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Speaker 2: and sauces for the restaurant industry as well at everything

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Speaker 2: from like gallon jugs to like Little to Go packets.

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Speaker 2: And they also do invisible work in co creating flavors

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Speaker 2: with other companies for use in beverages, dairy products, snacks,

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Speaker 2: baked goods, candy, savory food in general, nutritional supplements and beyond.

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Speaker 2: They have a proprietary process that they call create It

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Speaker 2: Registered to help brands like study their place in the

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Speaker 2: easy to implement. They've paired with IBM to create an

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Speaker 2: AI for flavor development that they call sage.

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Speaker 1: I see what they did, uh huh. They also developed

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Speaker 1: like an emotion measurement questionnaire called essence profile to help

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Speaker 1: product developers measure consumer response to food products. What they

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Speaker 1: did that, yep.

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Speaker 2: More broadly, their research arms look into or fund looking

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Speaker 2: into nutritional science and food psychology. A lot of recent

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Speaker 2: work is about like increasing the palatability of foods under

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Speaker 1: Also, every year they release.

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Speaker 2: A flavor forecast about trends in the food and beverage industry.

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Speaker 2: For twenty twenty four, they highlighted sour Power, which is

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Speaker 2: the increase in sour flavor profiles and foods and drinks

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Speaker 2: from everything from like citrus to ferments. Thoughtfully borrowed, which

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Speaker 2: is the like intentional, respectful remixing of traditional cuisines. And

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Speaker 2: then indulgence redefined, which I think is just talking about

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Speaker 2: comfort food. But their flavor of the year's Tamarind, which

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Speaker 2: ties into all three trends. I think they released the

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Speaker 1: To keep an eye on that. One. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: well what about the nutrition do not eat giant global corporations,

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Speaker 1: although that's kind of what McCormick did. Oh oh that's true.

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Speaker 1: Oh there you go. Yes, I just did finger guns

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Speaker 1: only Lauren could see it. Yeah, we do have some

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Speaker 1: numbers for you. Oh my gosh, we do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So in twenty twenty three, McCormick did over six

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Speaker 2: point five billion in sales across about like over one

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Speaker 2: of their business is direct to consumers. The other forty

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Speaker 2: three percent is to manufacturers and food service. They apparently

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Speaker 2: work with all ten of the top ten restaurant chains worldwide,

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Speaker 2: creating flavors top ten in what regard exactly, I'm not sure,

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Speaker 2: but it sounded impressive. The company has some thirteen thousand

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Speaker 2: employees across twenty nine countries. Among their employees are about

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Speaker 2: four hundred food scientists working out of twenty technical innovation

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Speaker 2: centers around the world. They source at least fourteen thousand

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Speaker 1: Wow, forty five.

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Speaker 2: Thousand farmers, that's yeah. In the US alone, they produce

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Speaker 2: over one hundred million spice canisters every year.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I mean I think you would win your bet, Lauren.

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Speaker 1: I think that in the US you have something that

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Speaker 1: McCormick is involved with. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whether it's labeled as such or not, I think

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Speaker 2: it's a pretty good, pretty good bet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the story of how that came to be

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Speaker 1: is not exactly what I would think at least. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we are going to get into that history

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Speaker 1: For a word from our sponsors, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So McCormick and Company goes back to eighteen ninety nine

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore, when the founder of the company, Willoughby M McCormick,

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Speaker 2: went door to door selling.

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Speaker 1: Syrups and extracts. I also read root beer specifically in

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Speaker 1: some places, but in other places said root beer extract.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, root beer was involved. Cool At first. He

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Speaker 1: worked largely out of his basement and his products were

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Speaker 1: labeled B brand b ee B. Yeah. McCormick was born

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Speaker 1: through that. He specifically chose Baltimore to do business in

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Speaker 1: use and to distribute his own products. In his early days,

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Speaker 1: he sold non food stuffs too, and quite an interesting

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Speaker 1: and a sort of fishy smelling glue that was guaranteed

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Speaker 1: to stick to everything but the user. I would love

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Speaker 1: to know if that was true. The spices didn't come

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Speaker 1: into play until eighteen ninety six, after McCormick purchased the

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Speaker 1: fg Emmett Spice Company out of Philadelphia. So when I

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Speaker 1: was kind of joking earlier about them eating other corporations,

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Speaker 1: that's been a part of their company for a long time. Yes, Yes.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen oh four, a fire devastated eighty blocks in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: McCormick wrote in a letter to his mother, I believe

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Speaker 1: quote we lost everything but our books, which we got

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Speaker 1: out at about three o'clock this morning. We had to

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Speaker 1: run for our lives before the year was even over.

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Speaker 1: Though he'd opened a five story factory and was back

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Speaker 1: in business. The company branched out to experimenting with teas

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Speaker 1: and tea bags, which at the time were often hands owned.

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Speaker 1: And I almost went on a rabbit hole because I

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Speaker 1: really wanted to know more about this. Ooh, adding tea

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Speaker 1: bags to our list. Yes, yes, yes. By the early

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Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, McCormick spices were available in stores all over

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Speaker 1: In nineteen twenty one, the company completed construction of a

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Speaker 1: nine story factory and headquarters in Baltimore, and its construction

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Speaker 1: It was very impressive. Cool, yes, but like many companies,

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Speaker 2: we are. Ava Max is a pop singer who you've

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Speaker 2: probably heard and didn't realize who was singing. She has

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Speaker 2: some pretty good catchy songs. The reason I absolutely had

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Speaker 2: to write it immediately while the episode is still playing,

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Speaker 2: mind you, is that her being at a prosecco event

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Speaker 2: is rather funny to me. Why you ask. One of

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Speaker 2: her more well known songs, Kings and Queens, includes the

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Speaker 2: lyrics if all of the kings had their queens on

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Speaker 2: the throne, we would pop champagne and raise a toast champagne, ladies, Champagne,

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Speaker 2: not prosecco.

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you, yes, thank you. This is

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Speaker 1: so great because we mentioned in that Prosecco episode we

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Speaker 1: neither of us new even Max was, but it was

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Speaker 1: a good fact, so thank you. I also find I

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Speaker 1: do find this really humorous because it sounds to me

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Speaker 1: like Prosecco was trying to like, heard that song and

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Speaker 1: was like like we get yeah, we got that lady. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to be at a prosecco event, it's beautiful all around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Well, thanks so much

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