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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Professor Penn Podcast. David Pen, your host,

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Speaker 5: You know, conversations are a little more difficult when you

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Speaker 5: Yes, they just I don't know their paradigm. I don't

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Speaker 2: state or country you're in, you have the power. There's

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Speaker 2: billions of us and there's a handful, just a handful

433
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Speaker 2: of folks that are controlling we the people. And if

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Speaker 2: we would just understand that we've given them the power

435
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Speaker 2: to do it. They they didn't take it from us.

436
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Speaker 2: We gave it to them because we're and you know

437
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: this is you know, working hard. You went to bed hungry.

438
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Speaker 2: Your mother and father probably didn't have the time for it.

439
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Speaker 2: You know, you have to make the time to do

440
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Speaker 2: it to be a priority. You have to make it

441
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Speaker 2: the essential. Now if it was, let's say, I don't know,

442
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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five, there's different times where it's more or

443
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Speaker 2: less critical. We happen to be living in a moment

444
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Speaker 2: where it's ultra critical. But I want to go back.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear so eighty two Steve Swigham, what

446
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Speaker 2: happened next in your walk through the party?

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Speaker 5: In college, I was semi involved, but pretty busy. Out

448
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 5: of college being a teacher, I got more involved again

449
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: because I was really seeing some things in education that

450
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Speaker 5: was desperately going wrong. And that was, you know, a

451
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Speaker 5: timplnty era and terrible things that we could bore each

452
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Speaker 5: other to tears with all kinds of minutia.

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Speaker 2: You mean, how our educational system went into the and

454
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Speaker 2: it drove that into the ground.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was starting well before the Democrats. It was

456
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Speaker 5: really truly this globalist odd concepts that started getting people

457
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Speaker 5: excited about. I don't know if this means anything to anybody,

458
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Speaker 5: but if you can do a research. My challenge for

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Speaker 5: the audience is to do the researcher. When the phrase

460
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Speaker 5: kiddos started coming out, Oh really, I know that sounds

461
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Speaker 5: really abstract, but do some research. When they started the

462
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Speaker 5: word using the phrase kiddos, my kiddos, my kiddos, my kiddos.

463
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Speaker 5: I don't know why, but from the very first time

464
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Speaker 5: I heard that phrase at a conference, I was just

465
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Speaker 5: the hair in the back of my neck and annoyed

466
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Speaker 5: by that term. Another discussion, and.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, what Philus saying is we have to do our

468
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Speaker 2: own research when the lies are cracking, because who are

469
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Speaker 2: you going to trust but yourself?

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Speaker 5: It's so right. So then that's a great way to

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Speaker 5: stay on point with this question. So I get involved.

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Speaker 5: I stay involved periodically, have been busy with work, especially

473
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Speaker 5: when I was overseas on active duty. It couldn't be involved.

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Speaker 2: And wait a second, when you overseas on active duty

475
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Speaker 2: have been more involved?

476
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Speaker 5: Well true, yeah right. And so gradually through that process

477
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Speaker 5: and then becoming a whistleblower and then running for governor

478
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Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen, I again went back to caucases, became

479
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Speaker 5: a delegate for the more local level. Then you can

480
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Speaker 5: choose to go on and make your case at a

481
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Speaker 5: meeting and become a delegate for a congressional district, and

482
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Speaker 5: so on and so forth up the chain. And you know,

483
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Speaker 5: there's different ways you have choices. You can become just

484
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Speaker 5: involved in the local BPOU or the local precinct. You

485
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: can become involved in the congressional district, or you can

486
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Speaker 5: become involved at the state level.

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Speaker 2: You bring up a very interesting point that I want

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Speaker 2: everybody to focus on. Phil is saying that there's all

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Speaker 2: kinds of roles to take in the path of self governance.

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Speaker 2: You know, people think that they have to do X,

491
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Speaker 2: Y or Z. No, it's it's almost literally infinite in

492
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Speaker 2: the different ways you can express yourself in governance. So

493
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Speaker 2: you could choose just to work in your own neighborhood

494
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Speaker 2: and organize your neighborhood, your neighbors. That for me personally,

495
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Speaker 2: I'm defaulting back to that myself because I have this

496
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Speaker 2: big platform. So in my own neighborhood, I want to

497
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Speaker 2: make my just my neighborhood. Because what are we talking about.

498
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Speaker 2: Why do we organize our neighborhoods? This is all about

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Speaker 2: getting out the vote. So Mike, you know, so you've

500
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Speaker 2: had this history institutional knowledge of how the party works.

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Speaker 2: You've been involved since eighty two. You functioned as a

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Speaker 2: precinct player. You've been a congressional district delegate, you've been

503
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Speaker 2: a state delegate, You've run for office. I know you

504
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: ran for state party chair at one point. You've really

505
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Speaker 2: been involved, so you understand how the party works.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So my comment about this is, with all that

508
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Speaker 2: institutional knowledge, let's say you get the endorsement, You're going

509
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Speaker 2: to get primary it because you know you're not the

510
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: chosen one, right, So let's see, Let's say you win

511
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Speaker 2: like Royce whit one in twenty twenty four, and it

512
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Speaker 2: took one day and all the party stalwarts said we

513
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Speaker 2: want to go a different direction. Wasn't that great for

514
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Speaker 2: building party solidarity? So and just to say this, and

515
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Speaker 2: I you know, I try not to rip on people.

516
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Speaker 2: I'm trying, but you know this is why I'm not

517
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Speaker 2: a big Kendle Qualls supporter, because I watched him at

518
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Speaker 2: a governor forum where he says I support the party

519
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Speaker 2: process and if someone else wins the endorsement, I'm going

520
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Speaker 2: to support it. That's not what he did in twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So Kendall, who are you? I mean, what are you?

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Speaker 2: But my But my point is, how are you going

523
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Speaker 2: to organ how do you win a primary?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Because now we're talking about not an audience, now we're

526
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Speaker 2: talking about generalship. How do you create what are you

527
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Speaker 2: doing to create the get out the vote because we

528
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Speaker 2: only have about a twenty twenty percent participation in an

529
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Speaker 2: off year primary election. That's another thing that one frosts me.

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Speaker 2: We're at the most important time in American history since

531
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Speaker 2: at least forty one, at least probably more important, which

532
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Speaker 2: is a crazy thing to say, but we're really in

533
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Speaker 2: a spot here. So we're going to have an off

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Speaker 2: year primary election in twenty six and we're only going

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Speaker 2: to get twenty percent of the Republican voters in this state.

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Speaker 2: Given history, that's all that's going to come out to vote.

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Speaker 2: What is your strategy? How do you control that playing

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Speaker 2: field so that you win that primary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot to unpack there. So the first

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Speaker 5: thing on pack is this, I'll take a personal discussion

541
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Speaker 5: at the forum from last Friday at the jack Park

542
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Speaker 5: Junction and one of the she's a State Central delegate

543
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Speaker 5: and she was really concerned. She was arguing with herself.

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Speaker 2: Phila's talking about the State Central Committee meeting this past weekend.

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Speaker 2: I was there and on the Friday night before the meeting,

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Speaker 2: there was a governor's form. It was a gathering. Not

547
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Speaker 2: to make this sound funny, but it was a gathering

548
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Speaker 2: of the clan, so to speak. It was all the

549
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Speaker 2: people who participate as delegates and officers in the party

550
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Speaker 2: came together at Jack Pott Junction Casino and Great Morton, Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: It was a beautiful drive to get there. I enjoyed

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Speaker 2: driving there.

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Speaker 5: It was a great I had a great time. But

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Speaker 5: this person, I can't remember her name. She was a

555
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: lovely lady. She's been involved. She stays central delegate, and

556
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 5: she's even arguing with herself about, you know, the process

557
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Speaker 5: and the amount of money at the time, and endorsement

558
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 5: or no endorsement. We're going to primary. And she was

559
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: more arguing out loud with herself than necessarily arguing. Might

560
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Speaker 5: not be the right word, but she was really taking

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Speaker 5: on She was conflicted this challenge that we have, which

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Speaker 5: I'm actually excited about because despite how the pundits might

563
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: want to hold on to the paradigm of the past,

564
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Speaker 5: the fact is more and more people and I have

565
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: not met a BPOU chair or congressional district chair. I've

566
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Speaker 5: not met a single one that isn't more forthright about this. Now.

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Speaker 5: Four years ago, eight years ago, chairs would have looked

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Speaker 5: at me like you're the spawn from the devil, and

569
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Speaker 5: don't you dare come in this room and don't talk

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Speaker 5: to me. Now, all chairs.

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Speaker 2: A basic political operating unit, your neighborhood committee.

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Speaker 5: All across the state are like, eyes are open, ooh,

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Speaker 5: we've got a problem here.

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Speaker 2: And so that problem is, phil, can you describe it?

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Speaker 5: So the problem that the party has had is what

576
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 5: I would suggest, from my analytical point of view, is

577
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Speaker 5: a contaminated or compromised process of moving away from So

578
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 5: hang with me, hear me out. Democrats have a total

579
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Speaker 5: facade of grassroots and they're nothing, not even close to grassroots.

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Speaker 5: They're a top down period and they do all of

581
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Speaker 5: their bidding to their top donors. Period. They can lie

582
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Speaker 5: and give the facade all they want. It's a top

583
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Speaker 5: down dictatorship, no holds barred, noah analytics needed.

584
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Speaker 2: Is fact.

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Speaker 5: Republican have had leadership that have walked this this fence

586
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 5: of like how do they keep winning? And oh, here's

587
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 5: how they keep winning. But we don't want to admit

588
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 5: to our constituents that it's all about top down. It's

589
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: easier to just have a tell the people with the

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Speaker 5: messages and have our big donors. And so it fell apart.

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Speaker 5: The grassroots has fallen apart, and it gets contaminated, and

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Speaker 5: then the people that come to the party excited, like

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Speaker 5: even during Scott Jensen's run, a lot of new people.

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Speaker 5: Scott did a great job bringing in a lot of.

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Speaker 2: New people, bringing them into the party at caucus.

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Speaker 5: And then they get citizens came.

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00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: Into caucus, become delegance for Scott Jansen, and.

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Speaker 5: They get to the state convention and they see what

599
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: happened and they're disillusioned, and it's like, what did I

600
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: waste my time and money for? Are you serious? This

601
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 5: is what the party's going to do to each other.

602
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 5: So my challenge for myself and my team has been

603
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Speaker 5: to try and analyze this playing field in a way

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Speaker 5: that's very forthright, transparent, and be upfront with people. I've

605
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 5: been starting to talk about this years ago, if you

606
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: look back at my podcasts and my writings, that this process,

607
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 5: just like I'm talking about today, is contaminated and we

608
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 5: got to do something about it. But the fact is

609
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Speaker 5: is we have what we have. We have a schedule

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Speaker 5: that's in place for twenty six we have to abide

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Speaker 5: by that schedule. What things can we do something about?

612
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: And what things are just off the table? I can't

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Speaker 5: if I'm coaching my team or trying to win the game.

614
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 5: What can we do something about to win the game?

615
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 5: Is it a past pattern? Is it a run pattern?

616
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 5: Is it you know? What can we do?

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Speaker 2: So back to how do you win a primary? Is

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Speaker 2: that what we're talking about?

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Speaker 5: So I know I'm meandering a bit, but the context

620
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 5: is rooted in identifying how it goes wrong, what went wrong,

621
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Speaker 5: what's repeatedly gone wrong, acknowledging it, and doing something about it.

622
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 5: So our team is built around the fact that we

623
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Speaker 5: are going to a primary. Every candidate, whether they've done

624
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: it publicly or privately, in writing or on camera, every

625
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 5: single candidate, including Kendall, has openly discussed the fact that

626
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Speaker 5: there's going to be a primary. Even Kristin Robbins is

627
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 5: already talking that's going to be a primary.

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Speaker 2: So let's go the endorsement process.

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Speaker 5: It's dispense with the anxiety about endorsement or no endorsement,

630
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: and who's honoring it. Who's not. Let's stop wasting people's

631
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Speaker 5: time and energy. Get involved with caucuses. Go get involved

632
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 5: with it's perfect process. Still most of them with the

633
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Speaker 5: you know, the representative runs your state representative. Powerful grassroots process.

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Speaker 5: Why we've gained we've gained some seats because we have

635
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Speaker 5: powerful grassroots people all across House representatives districts.

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Speaker 2: Some of them come right here into this podcast, and.

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Speaker 5: They're great people, and they're hard work and those are

638
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: the core. So back to how do you win? You

639
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: drive into the you lean into the piece of people

640
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: that work and work hard and win, and you lean

641
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 5: into those people and support them and amplify them, and

642
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 5: you stop focusing on these people that are holding on

643
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: to this dysfunctional paradigm of what are you doing? And

644
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: they won't get themselves out of it, So focusing on

645
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 5: those people. We have a grassroots program ourselves where at

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Speaker 5: the County Ambassadors. It's slowly growing. At first there's eighty

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Speaker 5: seven counties and so I believe we're up to I

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Speaker 5: don't remember how many published right now, if they're seven

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Speaker 5: or nine published, there's approximately another half dozen that are unpublished.

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Speaker 5: So out of eighty seven counties, we're already getting up

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Speaker 5: into the twenty.

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Speaker 2: Ambassador where you have a committed.

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Speaker 5: Committed ambassador where it's going to work there, rolling to

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Speaker 5: publish their name, their phone number, email address.

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Speaker 2: Their role is to what get people to caucus or proposed.

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Speaker 5: To get em caucus, get information to the interact with

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Speaker 5: the bpous in the congressional districts within their county.

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Speaker 2: But really they're there to take these citizens that they

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Speaker 2: meet and say, look, if you want to be involved

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Speaker 2: and make a change right now in this state which

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Speaker 2: is needed to change. The first step is to become

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Speaker 2: a delegate, want to caucus. And here's the way it works.

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Speaker 2: You go to caucus. You know, in most caucus rooms

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Speaker 2: neighborhood meeting rooms, if you just show up, you're automatically

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Speaker 2: going to become a delegate because we don't have a

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Speaker 2: full strength party yep. So it's not like you're going

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Speaker 2: to walk in there and be having a huge throwdown there.

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Speaker 2: It's really the billets are empty. They are empty.

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Speaker 5: If you go to caucus, and it ends up being

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Speaker 5: a happy problem of there's there's so many of you, great,

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Speaker 5: it's perfect, you know, and and I'll pick on the

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Speaker 5: Democrats one more time to just kind of bring back

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Speaker 5: to the point about the caucuses. Is why you'll notice

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Speaker 5: something Tim Waltz said the other day about, you know,

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Speaker 5: with this whole thing with the mayor thing and the

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Speaker 5: fighting amongst themselves. Oh, we can't be fighting amongst ourselves.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. Democrats, if you're listening, go to caucus. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: get the grassroots back to be make it a little messy.

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Speaker 5: It's okay to be a little messy. Go out and

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Speaker 5: take your party back, Democrats, go out and take your

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Speaker 5: party back away from these compromised people and get back

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Speaker 5: to caucus. Independence, Marijuana Party, Republicans, those who have walked

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Speaker 5: away from the Republican you're.

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Speaker 2: Basically talking to all citizens. You're saying all citizens need

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Speaker 2: to self govern by going to caucus and becoming part

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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 5: PA where purple and purple is more and more of

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Speaker 5: my campaign every day, because you know, you know, it

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Speaker 5: sounds simplistic, but a little science experiment, you mix red

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Speaker 5: and you mix blue, and what do you get purple?

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Speaker 5: You get purple. And that's that centrist idea that I

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Speaker 5: have that although it sounds simplistic to some people, it's

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Speaker 5: just turning people on I don't care if you're a Democrat,

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Speaker 5: a Republican, an, Independent, and marijuana party. I don't care.

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Speaker 5: It's just like I'm colorblind. I don't care the color

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Speaker 5: of your skin. I don't care your origins of you know,

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Speaker 5: and political.

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Speaker 2: As as you're a citizen.

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Speaker 5: Stand up and do something, just please do something. Inspire somebody,

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Speaker 5: Walk up to a child and help them understand, you know,

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Speaker 5: right from wrong. And in that whole campaign that was

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Speaker 5: in my head over a year ago, of this is about.

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Speaker 5: This has become solidly about right versus wrong, not left

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Speaker 5: versus right, that people are walking up to me and

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Speaker 5: saying it when I go to events, and this.

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Speaker 2: Is an interesting thing you're talking about. And I want

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Speaker 2: to just before we go back to the strategy and

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Speaker 2: tactics of winning elections, because that's what I really want

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Speaker 2: to talk about. Okay. So the cornerstone of that is,

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Speaker 2: if you want to win elections, you got to have

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Speaker 2: delegates because even though you're going to a primary, you'd

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Speaker 2: like the Republican Party endorsement. Yeap, Because and I lived

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Speaker 2: through this because I was associated with the Royce White

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Speaker 2: campaign in twenty twenty four, he won the endorsement on

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Speaker 2: the first ballot. I watched how the party supported him,

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Speaker 2: not very much, thank you, David Hana, because there was

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Speaker 2: just enough that nobody could get wild about it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these people are professionals. They know what to do. They

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Speaker 2: know how to kick the legs out from underneath you

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Speaker 2: and then catch you just before they hit the ground.

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Speaker 2: It's a great technique. Anyhow, I want a bookmark just

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Speaker 2: we're going to come back to strategy and tactics. But

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Speaker 2: you said something that's philosophically very thought provoking for me

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Speaker 2: and triggering a little bit because Purple, you know you

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Speaker 2: know you're saying. But it's about where is the center?

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Speaker 2: Because the center to me right now means the UNI Party,

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Speaker 2: which means broad bipartisan agreement on expenditures, which leave me

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Speaker 2: thirty seven trillion dollars broke and in an endless war.

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Speaker 2: And I got lots of kids and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to see them die for some foreign adventures. So some

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Speaker 2: other people make a lot of money, which is not

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Speaker 2: really state politics. But I think you understands. You remember

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So the center scares me. But I

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Speaker 2: think what you're saying is and correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: You're shifting the center to common sense right and wrong

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Speaker 2: ideas which are being revealed by awful events like this assassination.

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Speaker 2: It's like, who are these people celebrating the death? I mean,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter when you watch something like that. Where

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Speaker 2: is the solemnity and the reverence for life and the

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Speaker 2: just the mourning of who's happy when anybody dies? I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is not my background, so I would say, WHOA,

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Speaker 2: that's wrong. Well, everybody sees it on full display, So

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Speaker 2: tell me, am I right, are you saying there's a

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Speaker 2: new center that you're trying to get to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wasn't approaching it that way in my logic stream.

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Speaker 5: But you're bringing up a great point because it also

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Speaker 5: connects to an article I wrote about words, words that Wound.

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Speaker 5: Look it up on the Newstab, on my parish for

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Speaker 5: mn dot com.

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Speaker 2: Well social media one more time. If you want to

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Speaker 2: read Phil's writing, and he is a prodigious writer and

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Speaker 2: a good writer. Where do people go? Please slowly P.

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Speaker 5: A R R I S H the number four man

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Speaker 5: dot com and on the Newstab if you typed in

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Speaker 5: the search bar words that wound, and what you're talking

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Speaker 5: about is very powerful. Our words need to mean something again,

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Speaker 5: and the way our society has You're right, we're all guilty.

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Speaker 5: We've let people get away with the use of words

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Speaker 5: that's so intellectually and morally broken. That's you've got to

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Speaker 5: start asking yourself a question. So am I recentering the center?

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Speaker 5: I guess yeah? If if you're if your vision or

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Speaker 5: definition of center has become this this unification of UNI

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Speaker 5: Party and keep the endless spores and keep the globalism.

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Speaker 5: Nothing to do with what I'm talking about, right, I

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Speaker 5: want to know. What i want to do is I

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Speaker 5: want to reflect what I'm seeing on the campaign trail.

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Speaker 5: Were engaging the public. People of all walks of life

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Speaker 5: are coming to the events. They really are there. It's

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Speaker 5: not about their gender, their race, their color, their creed.

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Speaker 5: They're they're literally coming to the events because they've kind

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Speaker 5: of locked in on this concept of we are way

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Speaker 5: into the We got to start learning about what's right

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Speaker 5: versus wrong, and start supporting what's right versus and confronting

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Speaker 5: what's wrong.

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Speaker 2: What's a word that wounds? Just let's just take one

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Speaker 2: one conte.

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Speaker 5: So my concept in the article primarily is is like

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Speaker 5: the nokiadding reality of real abruptly like guns. The guns

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Speaker 5: thy coming up again. Gun violence, it's an intellectually and

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Speaker 5: morally broken phrase because guns are not violent. Reproductive rights

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Speaker 5: to cover up the discussion about abortion, that's an intellectually

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Speaker 5: and morally broken concept. Words that lead people, and the

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Speaker 5: Democrats are the primary drivers and offenders of this. But

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Speaker 5: using words that play on people's emotions to get an

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Speaker 5: emotional response and get a reaction and get people fired up,

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Speaker 5: and all want to around the actule. They don't care about

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Speaker 5: the result of that word or the use of how

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Speaker 5: they've twisted the word. It actually destroys and pulls apart

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Speaker 5: the fabric of our communities. And we have to start

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Speaker 5: dealing with this more openly and honestly. You can't run

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Speaker 5: around saying fascism for every other thing that you see.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's there's a mental health disorder called projection.

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Speaker 5: You're projecting onto everybody else the thing you're very the

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Speaker 5: most guilty of, Tim Walls. You want to keep using

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Speaker 5: the word fascist the way you're using it, you are

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Speaker 5: the fascist.

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Speaker 2: That's a Saul Olenski rule. Accuse your opponent of what

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Speaker 2: you're doing yourself.

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Speaker 5: And it's so transparent and so many people are starting

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Speaker 5: to see that.

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Speaker 2: That's what you talk about. The paradigm is breaking down

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Speaker 2: that we're starting to see it with Tanner, could you

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Speaker 2: be sure. I know you're going to do this, but

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Speaker 2: for everybody that's listening and watching, Tanner is going to

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Speaker 2: put into the notes of the podcast description, the description

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Speaker 2: of the proscriptions. Excuse me, sir, Yeah, all these different

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Speaker 2: social links for Phill's social media sites. We're going to

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Speaker 2: make sure that it's easy for you to find. We

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Speaker 2: talk about this a lot on the Professor Penn podcast.

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Speaker 2: Really a great one. A foundation one is democracy. We

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Speaker 2: do not live in a democracy. We live in a

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Speaker 2: constitutional republic. As soon as we made that shift, because

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Speaker 2: all we hear now is in fact. On the last

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Speaker 2: podcast we played, and I didn't know if it was AI,

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Speaker 2: but we had.

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Speaker 4: I watched it when I was editing, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 4: I was trying. When it starts going section by section,

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Speaker 4: the whole screen goes to all the news anchors, and

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Speaker 4: the voices are like synced up. If you follow slowly,

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Speaker 4: you can follow whose voice is whose yeah, and then

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Speaker 4: you can see that their lips are moving correctly. So

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's AI at all.

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Speaker 2: So we played this clip of national media.

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Speaker 5: It's a very well played clip.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you saw it, but they said, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: a danger to our democracy, a danger to our democracy.

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Speaker 2: Every all these local news outlets, of course, they're aggregated

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Speaker 2: and wound up and owned by private equity. So you

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Speaker 2: might have four hundred local stations owned by you know,

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Speaker 2: exactly three companies, you know, and then they are able

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Speaker 2: to drive a narrative, which is why these companies buy

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Speaker 2: these local news stations, because they are propaganda outlets.

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 2: But just the idea of democracy, which you know, is

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Speaker 2: a word that makes us feel good, because what makes

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Speaker 2: us feel we got to vote, But we don't live

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Speaker 2: in a democracy. We live in this republic.

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Speaker 4: I tell you, phil that when I went to Illinois

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Speaker 4: about kind of following this topic of using the word democracy,

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Speaker 4: and I tell you about Abraham Lincoln.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I.

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Speaker 4: Went to Illinois just to go see Abe Lincoln's grave

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Speaker 4: and everything. I'm very fascinating in the man, and I

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Speaker 4: went to get a biography of his. He doesn't really

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Speaker 4: have autobiographies, He never wrote about himself. But the five

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Speaker 4: that I picked up, the synapsis of the whole book

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Speaker 4: was he protected the democracy, and that just twisted my

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Speaker 4: gut because.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is the first Republican.

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Speaker 4: He was the one to know that this was a republic,

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Speaker 4: and people are now writing his words as if he

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Speaker 4: was protecting the democracy.

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Speaker 2: And then we played on the podcast the famous Bixby Letter,

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Speaker 2: which he wrote to a woman who lost I think

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Speaker 2: four sons in the war, and you know you could

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Speaker 2: take He said something like, you can take some solace

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Speaker 2: that your son's died in defense of our republic. So

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Speaker 2: in his own writings he spoke but in other word,

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Speaker 2: is equity equity? You know, equity doesn't mean we're all

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Speaker 2: the same. You know the twisting of these words, and

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Speaker 2: people have to understand some very very smart people are

862
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: in our academic institutions working on ways to change reality

863
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: by words that won't Yes.

864
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 5: So yeah, I hope everybody reads that piece that I wrote,

865
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 5: because it's it's powerful stuff and I'm not a new

866
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 5: person at saying this stuff. Abraham Lincoln knew this kind

867
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 5: of stuff. People that what I find the most powerful

868
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 5: thing that I want to I'm inspired to actually talk

869
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 5: about as effectively as possible over the next twelve months

870
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 5: is helping people to walk away from those terms that

871
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 5: they've been indoctrinated with and start to doing their own research,

872
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 5: their own thinking, their own decisions, because to your point

873
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: with strategy, we have to get to the point where

874
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 5: we're never going to win. If the majority of people

875
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 5: aren't making their own decisions listening to the candidates for themselves,

876
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: stop listening to the pundits, stop listening to the reporter,

877
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 5: start making decisions for yourself, then we will win. If

878
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 5: we continue down the path of just letting the pundits

879
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 5: create the narrative, we're never going to win because back

880
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 5: to the words that wound, you're talking about people that

881
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 5: knowingly twist words with intent to harm. They'll sell it

882
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 5: to you that they're here for the greater good, but

883
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 5: they know for a fact that they're creating harm and

884
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 5: dissent and division and controlling how people think about a time.

885
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 2: This is not necessarily limited to one group, No, it's

886
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: many groups use this correct And this is why I

887
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: say on this podcast, I don't need agreement. I'm okay

888
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: with disagreement. What I am fundamentally opposed to is exactly

889
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: what we're talking about, manipulating people with ill intent and

890
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: lying with ill intent, because there's telling untruths by accident,

891
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: and I know every time I do that on the podcast,

892
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I read something that's not one hundred

893
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: percent corrector you know it's not right. You know, I

894
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: feel awful about it because I understand how important searching

895
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: for truth is. And this is why I'm so happy

896
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: you're here. In any other candidate that wants to come

897
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: in here and discourse honestly transparent, apparently, Hey, you're welcome here,

898
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: you know, don't don't give it all to fail. But hey,

899
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: Phil is the only one that comes. Hey, too bad

900
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: for you. You guys are missing the point. But you're you're

901
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: all welcome here, But you come in here and you

902
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: lie to me and use these words that wound. Maybe

903
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: you don't want to show up because I will not

904
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: take a back step when people are intentionally misleading that

905
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not like that.

906
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 5: You're kind of saying something that brings me back to

907
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 5: that strategy conversation too, is these people are making a

908
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 5: grave mistake. Because one of the things we're seeing on

909
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 5: the campaign trail is I'm definitely locked solid in on

910
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 5: don't dismiss people, don't don't dismiss people for because of

911
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 5: some false conclusion or paradigm you have about because of

912
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 5: the way they look or the way you think they sound,

913
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 5: or the way somebody told you that they present themselves.

914
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 5: Don't dismiss people. So yeah, they're making a big mistake

915
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 5: by not coming here. By the way, if there's anybody

916
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 5: out there that has asked me to come to a

917
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 5: program or to an event and I keep going, there

918
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 5: I go. But literally, I'm excited to tell you it's

919
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: it's not boastful, but I'm excited to tell you. If

920
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 5: I say I can't get there, it's because I literally

921
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 5: have at least one, if not two events that same

922
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 5: day or evening. So or it's literally, you know, all

923
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 5: the way up in the tip of Minnesota north and

924
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 5: they want me to be in Winona. You know, almost.

925
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: All We're trying to get out with people as much

926
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: as you can. I mean, we the people need to

927
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: see it.

928
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 5: If I ever miss a program or miss an episode,

929
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 5: or miss an invitation, it's not because I wasn't wanting

930
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 5: to go. It's literally there's only one of me, and

931
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: I can only get to so many things a day.

932
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: Well this, this, this words, that one thing we need.

933
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: I I am looking for leaders. There's more to this

934
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: than getting elected. I mean, it's about changing the culture

935
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: of our state to encourage liter sense into this self

936
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: governance process. So these ambassadors, these county ambassadors, is that

937
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: part of their mission to get their local friends and

938
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: neighbors and co workers, to get them to go to

939
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: caucus and caucus fulfilled parish.

940
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 5: Yes, there's actually a tab on the website that's devoted

941
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 5: to the county ambassadors where you can read more about

942
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 5: what my our expectations are and yeah, to summarize, it's

943
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 5: essentially an extension of the team and able to then

944
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 5: articulate some of the primary objectives, some of the primary goals.

945
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 5: Help people understand caucus process better, help people understand the

946
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 5: calendar and the upcoming events in their local level, so

947
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 5: that as it progresses up into the state level and

948
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 5: state convention and then to the primary, they have a

949
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 5: little bit better understanding. It's disappointing to me to go

950
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 5: out to events across the state where some people that

951
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: haven't been very involved they're starting to get involved and

952
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 5: they're very inquisitive. But some people that have kind of

953
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 5: been involved, sometimes for a long time, and they have

954
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 5: a lack of understanding of the process themselves, and they've

955
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 5: been involved, so it's kind of disheartening. So my message

956
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 5: to anyone that wants to get involved, You're not alone.

957
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 5: Don't be afraid of it. There's people that have been

958
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 5: involved for twenty years that don't understand the problem.

959
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: On the way, wait, wait, this is another let's bookmark

960
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: and stop for a second, because I have a I

961
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: have very good insight into this and this is not

962
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: an arragon statement. This is an experiential statement. I should

963
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: name names because I don't like some of these people,

964
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: but I'm going to leave it to the side. But

965
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: I said here in my Senate district St. Forty five

966
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: before I was voted out of it because I'm controversial,

967
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: which is cool, that's politics. I said to the people,

968
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: we're going to post up on our website a flow

969
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: chart of how the Republican Party works, because it's really

970
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: not that complicated. In A very involved member in the

971
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: party said, we're not going to do that, and I said, why, well,

972
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: that's our secret. We don't want people to know how

973
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: the party works. I go, are we running a secret

974
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: society here or are we running a citizen grassroots organization

975
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: to bring people into politics. In this man's mind, who

976
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: is a lawyer, very involved in all the high end

977
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: of the party, it is a secret society and this

978
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: I reject completely. So to that end, I'm going anywhere

979
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: in this state, anytime, any place, anybody invites me, not

980
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: as a candidate, just as someone that's trying to promote

981
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: citizen self governance. And I'm running my own meetings, which

982
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: you're always welcome. The next one is September twenty fourth

983
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: at Devani's on Highway seven at six pm. I'm organizing

984
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: my neighborhood. You're welcome to come. This is what we

985
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: got to do. It's a period of peer and what

986
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: we do at that meeting is please come in. We're

987
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: going to talk about how you can get involved. That's

988
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: so I guess I'm not going to be your ambassador.

989
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: I got to be neutral. But I mean, you know,

990
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm running it from my own political constituency here in

991
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: my neighborhood. I want my neighbors to learn from what

992
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: I've experienced. And I had a mentor. I had a

993
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: mentor in the part like you had political mentors. You know,

994
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: if they're not going to write it down so you

995
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: can study it. You have to be lucky enough to

996
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: find somebody, otherwise you might bang around for twenty years

997
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: and have no idea how it works. And that, to

998
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: me is a tragedy of waste of human capital.

999
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, and especially if there are people that are keeping

1000
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,959
Speaker 5: it a secret. I mean, it's really troubling because that's

1001
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 5: not how our constitutional republic was built. It's not how

1002
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 5: our state constitution was built. It's not what we were

1003
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 5: to be about. We the people are the government.

1004
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't have any most You can't have

1005
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: any more of a secret than at State Central. You

1006
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: weren't there. You know, we spent the morning talking about

1007
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: the destruction of all the party data. It was all

1008
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: you know. I didn't pay a lot of attention to

1009
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: this because this is part of the opaque black box.

1010
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 5: So there's something very strange that's gone on for a

1011
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 5: very long time. And whether it's this gentleman that you

1012
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 5: mentioned or what you witnessed at say Central, the destruction

1013
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 5: of data, there's this odd I don't know what to

1014
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 5: call it. It's an oversimplification. But protecting the brand, well

1015
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 5: what brand are you protecting?

1016
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: The Washington generals.

1017
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: You know, And it's just strange how people have sold

1018
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 5: themselves into this narrative and paradigm that just has been

1019
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 5: so dysfunctional and unsuccessful that they won't step away from it.

1020
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 5: But there are people stepping away. So back to like

1021
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 5: what I was saying, you're going to the more local level.

1022
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 5: Most of the local level. I haven't met one yet

1023
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 5: on the campaign trail that isn't like this. Everyone I've

1024
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 5: met in the CA and Pain trail at BPO used

1025
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 5: to congressional districts, to Senate districts. Their eyes are open.

1026
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 5: The dysfunction is real, the lack of financial stability is real,

1027
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 5: and they're wide open to the fact that, yeah, we

1028
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 5: need to keep this more open to people, get more

1029
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 5: people involved. So we're primed and ready, and the county

1030
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 5: ambassadors just dovetail into that. Your concept of getting out

1031
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 5: there and leading your community dovetails onto this. What's really happening,

1032
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 5: and it's not it's really truly people even in the

1033
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 5: Twin Cities areas are coming to events or formerly Democrats,

1034
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 5: Independent Party, Marijuana Party formally, they're coming to events because

1035
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 5: they know they need to be involved. And I think

1036
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 5: it's going to get exciting. I think twenty twenty six

1037
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 5: is going to be very inspiring for people. I think

1038
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 5: people are really going to come around and say, hey,

1039
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 5: I get it. This is a real movement. People have to,

1040
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 5: you know, take off the rose colored glasses or the

1041
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 5: blinders and just come to events and get in the

1042
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 5: get involved.

1043
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: I had a very unpleasant experience at building on what

1044
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: you're saying. There are people clinging to this paradigm. They

1045
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: won't let go over it. I had a woman walk

1046
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: up to me, and I've already forgotten her name because

1047
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: that's where she needs to be forgotten. She walked up

1048
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: and excoriated me. She said, I'm so opposed to you.

1049
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm so tired of this circular firing squad and the party.

1050
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: You know, we're all Republicans. And I thought to myself,

1051
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: you know, after the primary, we're all Republicans. Until then,

1052
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: we're fighting for the future of this party. And I'm

1053
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 2: not taking a back step because you're going to tell

1054
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: me I'm participating in the circular firing squad. We're not

1055
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: going to get the kind of change that we need

1056
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: to have a winning party unless we display. You know,

1057
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: it's not about display, it's about bringing new people in

1058
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 2: and young people in. Young we need young people. So

1059
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: you know this clinging to this you call it a brand,

1060
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's been a losing brand. Now, what's

1061
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: interesting about twenty six God bless him? You know, people

1062
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: get martred. It changes the play in frilled when people

1063
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 2: get martyred and when people, you know, even leftists, see

1064
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: the response, they have to start asking themselves who am

1065
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: I hanging around with here? Because this is a separating

1066
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: event that we've just gone through. So twenty six does

1067
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: hold electoral possibilities, but they're not necessarily because of the

1068
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: current structure of the Republican Party. It's the zeitgeist at

1069
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: the time. The paradigm is shiftings, and what I'd like

1070
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: the party to do is to get out in front

1071
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: of that and go to where the play is going

1072
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: to be, not try to hold everybody back to what

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Speaker 2: was I want the party to project where are we

1074
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: going to be two years from now? For it, what

1075
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Speaker 2: are we going to do with the young people that

1076
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: are coming up and are not supportive of Israel. You

1077
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: know that this is an issue because if you talk

1078
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: to this younger generation, they're not into that. So if

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Speaker 2: the party clings to that, how are we going to

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01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: resolve that? For example, that's just one political issue amongst

1081
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: many and even though it's an international issue, in a

1082
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 2: federal issue, it affects the membership and the participation in

1083
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: your party, the Republican Party, which you would like the endorsement.

1084
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Speaker 2: I'm correct, yep, you know these are important issues.

1085
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Speaker 5: We're going to lean into the local level, and that's

1086
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 5: what the party should do. The party should lean into

1087
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 5: the local level, the local issues and local issues. So

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01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: when it comes down to the precincts and the bpo

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01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 5: use in the congressional districts, state central needs to step away,

1090
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 5: step out of the fray. Don't dictate, don't try to manipulate,

1091
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 5: don't try let the local level grow and build, and

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 5: stop being gatekeepers because you are protecting a brand or

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01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 5: a notion or a way of doing business that has

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01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 5: proven to be a losing way of doing business.

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Speaker 2: I got a comment. I'm going to ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: I ask you, would you consider maybe for me to

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Speaker 2: be a political activist.

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Speaker 5: And I don't like the word activists. I hear that

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Speaker 5: word a lot.

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Speaker 2: Well, what word do you like? Engage to me?

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01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 5: You're an educator. To me, you're a teacher. To me,

1102
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 5: you're a mentor. That's what we need to be for

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 5: you like that, because we are not there again is

1104
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 5: one of those words the political spectrum has chosen to

1105
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 5: manipulate into a catchphrase.

1106
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: Or I've been manipulated. You don't know. Really, I mean

1107
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: that I would prefer to be thinking of myself as

1108
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: an educator. That's why it's called the Professor Penn Podcast,

1109
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: because I'm trying to educate and you've just liberated me

1110
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: from a word that is wounding. But in my own

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01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: district in St. Forty five, where I've bought a lot

1112
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: of people into the party, a lot. I mean, I've

1113
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: been very active since for quite a while. You know,

1114
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: they don't like me. And I'll tell you why they

1115
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: don't like me. I bring change. Education brings change, and

1116
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: so I've got a core people in my own backyard

1117
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: that don't want that change. They are resisting it at

1118
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: with everything they have.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and my encouragement not that I'm here to encourage

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01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:45,479
Speaker 5: you really personally were peers. We're not. But I would

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 5: say stop focusing on the people that don't like you,

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01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 5: because the fact is is that the people on you.

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01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 5: People do like you are far outnumber the people that don't.

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Speaker 2: But unless those people that like this message get into

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Speaker 2: the political process. It's not that I'm against these people.

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01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't even consider I can't remember their names. I

1127
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: want new people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm gonna personal story Lake Marion at the ballroom.

1129
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 5: That event went very well, great crowd, got all done,

1130
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 5: had a great time, had such a good response. Twenty

1131
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 5: fourth to forty eight hours later, I pull open this

1132
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 5: email from a lady that was at the event, and

1133
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 5: she just kind of like your experience, just eviscerating me

1134
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 5: about and it's all like talking points of the last

1135
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 5: twenty years, all piled together in this email that are

1136
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 5: clearly the most unsuccessful paradigm in twenty years of the

1137
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 5: Republican Party. And she's just nailing every word of it

1138
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 5: like a script. I don't focus on that. I focus

1139
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 5: on the gentleman I think of his name now, the

1140
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 5: gentleman that owns the place. Now. He was just on

1141
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 5: fire and excited and hadn't been involved with the process.

1142
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 5: He literally bought the Lake Marian Ballroom for like just

1143
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 5: out of curiosity and wanting to get people involved and

1144
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 5: kind of bring back some good times. He has a

1145
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 5: wonderful story about the Lake Marian Ballroom, and these focus

1146
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 5: on those people. You focus on what's right and good

1147
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 5: and things that are uplifting and inspiring, and then you

1148
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 5: take these people and that are really I call them

1149
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 5: the happy helpers of my day. Okay, that you know

1150
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 5: that really negative person just in the back of your mind,

1151
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 5: you're going, do I say out loud what I'm thinking. No, stop,

1152
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 5: that's my happy helper. My happy helper is reminding me

1153
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 5: how to exercise good skills and try try to get through.

1154
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: That reminds me of That reminds me of the story

1155
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: I was. I was out with my family when my

1156
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 2: daughter was three four years old, and we were we

1157
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: were on vacation in a beautiful place, in a crowd

1158
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,879
Speaker 2: of people at and I have this beauty. She's so beautiful.

1159
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 2: This girls now at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill.

1160
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: She's brilliant. She's about three or four years old. And

1161
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: a bird flew over her head and she just had

1162
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 2: birdpool all over her face, in her hair, and the

1163
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: look in her eyes was she was just horrified. And

1164
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: her mother looked at her and said, you're so lucky

1165
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 2: of all these people in this square, that bird crapped

1166
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,919
Speaker 2: on you. You are so blessed the happy helper concept.

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 2: That's great. I have to that's my favorite memory, one

1168
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: of my favorite memories because it was so appropriate because

1169
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: it's such a bad feeling. Now we're going to make

1170
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: this feel good. And that's what you're doing these and

1171
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to learn from that. I'm going to tell

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01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: you right now. No, No, I'm just I'm going to

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01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: learn because I get a lot of negative feedback and

1174
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to do is become a more unifying

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01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 2: and positive force in Minnesota politics. So that's how you

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 5: We talked about some that I can't remember was on

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 5: camera off camera now, but we talked about something that

1179
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 5: switched in here and for you personally months ago, and

1180
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: you've recognized that you've seen it in me.

1181
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 2: From from well, I've known you for a long time.

1182
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 5: And I was trying to articulate it, and I don't

1183
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 5: know if I can perfectly articulate, but yeah, something in

1184
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 5: here because of a bad experience I had. And I'm

1185
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 5: kind of the person, like I told you earlier, you

1186
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 5: tell me that it's not possible because I'm a boy

1187
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 5: or a man, or a white or blue or you know,

1188
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 5: tall or short. You almost tell me I can't do it.

1189
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to figure out a way to do it.

1190
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 5: And so that was part of the shift, but part

1191
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 5: of the shift in my brain I think we've just

1192
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 5: talked about before twenty seventeen eighteen. I was angry. People

1193
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 5: could see it just I was angry, and I was motivated.

1194
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 5: I was properly motivated. I had the right ideas, I

1195
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 5: had the right concepts, but that anger was kind of

1196
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 5: like the aura was more anger off putting. And so

1197
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 5: something happened with me in a personal conversation and some

1198
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 5: challenges that I was trying to overcome, and it's kind

1199
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 5: of that, yeah, you tell me I can't do it,

1200
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 5: and I'm going to figure out a way. My brain

1201
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 5: just clicked, and part of it was this this concept,

1202
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 5: I'm not going to embarrass the person. But a similar

1203
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 5: concept happened. I was saying, this is how I've I've

1204
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 5: chosen to do this, and I started calling it my

1205
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 5: happy my happy helper concept. And now my friend he

1206
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 5: started to use that same concept because and now if

1207
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 5: you take it on great, No, I think it's.

1208
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: A very very interesting thing because you made so much

1209
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: resistance and it can make you angry, and because it's

1210
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: if you take it the other way, yeah, it's quite

1211
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 2: motivational and uplifting.

1212
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 5: And so you and I are seeing this spectrum of

1213
01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 5: is it just innocent naiveness, happenstance, bad parent, I'm bad conclusion?

1214
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 5: Or is it malice? My brain so many times gets

1215
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 5: focused in on who's you know, who's behind us, who's

1216
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 5: sending harm? And you know your your blood starts to

1217
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 5: boil and you're going after that who's going harm? Your

1218
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 5: your nature is to protect and defend But then sometimes

1219
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 5: when you react too quickly, you miss the person that

1220
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 5: was just kind of innocently that was a bad conclusion

1221
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 5: and could you rethink that because that's really not what

1222
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 5: was going on. And my lesson to myself in the

1223
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 5: last year has been I have to get better at

1224
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 5: helping not just myself but the person I'm engaging. Let's

1225
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 5: get past this false conclusion and is it just innocent

1226
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 5: misunderstanding or it's about discernment. And God has given us

1227
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 5: a gift of discernment if we choose to turn it on,

1228
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 5: and if I'm discerning Oh, now I have a pattern.

1229
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 5: The person not only is demonstrating a past, this is

1230
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 5: an innocent mistake. This is a pattern of I'm intending harm,

1231
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 5: intending confusion, contending.

1232
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: You know, we can't do very much with those people,

1233
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 2: can we?

1234
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 5: Then then I can approach the conversation from a different

1235
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 5: point of view and I can defuse. I might not

1236
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 5: get anywhere, but I can at least de escalate, and

1237
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 5: I'll get hooked. But if I get hooked on the

1238
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 5: innocent conversations where it's just misunderstandings, we miss an opportunity

1239
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 5: to evangelize. We miss an opportunity educate, educate, We miss

1240
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 5: an opportunity to to unpack the false understanding. And for

1241
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 5: whatever reason, something switched in my head with talking with

1242
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 5: Father Corey that day, that just and I went home

1243
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 5: that night and it was.

1244
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: Just, let's not generate a lot of anger about the

1245
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: people we can't convince. Let's talk to the people that

1246
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: have reached false conclusions under that's a very good point.

1247
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 5: And Charlie, I'm not new to this. And you know,

1248
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk, whether he would are would have articulated it

1249
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 5: this way or not, or or Joe Rogan or Elon

1250
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 5: Musk or yourself, we may not have we're all essentially

1251
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 5: saying the same thing if we aren't willing to have

1252
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 5: the conversation. Charlie Kirk has a couple of great snaps

1253
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 5: shots of this concept. If you aren't having the conversation,

1254
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 5: if you're not willing to engage, then you know, the

1255
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 5: humanity part, the human condition gets kind of overlooked and

1256
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 5: just completely crushed. And but that's where the bad person wants.

1257
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: You to be.

1258
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 5: That's where the conflict, that's the devil wants you to

1259
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 5: be in that crushing the conversation, crushing the opportunity to

1260
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 5: come to agreement, crushing the opportunity.

1261
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: To unpack us, to keep us divided.

1262
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so if we have people around us that

1263
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 5: are those good people who help us unpacked misunderstandings, unpacked

1264
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 5: false conclusions, unpack a paradigm that's like, where did that

1265
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 5: even come from? And then your light bulb goes on. Yeah,

1266
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 5: you know, the Charlie Kirks of the world scare the

1267
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 5: bad people, to scare the devil, because at the end

1268
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 5: of the day, he doesn't want that going on. He

1269
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 5: doesn't want you opening your eyes, He doesn't want you

1270
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 5: to unpack a misunderstanding. So evil does not want you

1271
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 5: to see light. Veil the veil evil, the veil of

1272
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 5: evil wants you to pretend that there's light, Pretend that

1273
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 5: there's understanding, pretend that there's a good vision. But it's

1274
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 5: not genuine. And that's as in essence. Tim Waltz. Right now,

1275
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 5: Tim wat says, get you see his infomercial is opening

1276
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 5: thing to run for governor.

1277
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: I haven't yet.

1278
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, it's gonna make you ill.

1279
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1280
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 4: I pull it up right now. It together, you can

1281
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 4: pull it up. You guys, continue to talk it all

1282
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 4: before we can.

1283
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: You just give me one second, because we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: so far down the stream, I'm going to miss two

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Speaker 2: things I want to interject here. Number one, are you

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: familiar with a name Dan Schultz? Dan Schultz, you'll look

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Speaker 2: him up.

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01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 5: It's your research for you.

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01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 2: Dan is the progenitor of the precinct strategy. He just

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01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: took something that is American civics and he's been trying

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01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 2: to popularize citizen engagement. And Dan has a very good point.

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01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: We know what the issues are, what are the strategy

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: and tactics to take things to the next level so

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Speaker 2: that the citizens get involved and you're smiling because that

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: we're talking about that. And Dan's going to come on

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01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: my text at about I don't know, nine o'clock tonight

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01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: when this is said, Well, this is better because he

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01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: doesn't like it when I come on and talk about issues.

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Speaker 2: He wants a full throated strategy and tactic. How are

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01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 2: you going to win a primary? That's right, That's which

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: we're going to come back to. But the other thing,

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01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: Dan will forgive me for asking this because you said

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 2: something quite thought provoking. God has given us the power

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01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: of discernment. If we turn it on. How do you

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: turn it on? How do you think that gets turned on?

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01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 5: You start opening?

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 2: First of all, what is discernment?

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01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 5: Let's start their discernment.

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01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 2: Because people really need to know what it is.

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01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's not something that is easily come by.

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 5: It is uncomfortable. You have to learn to be vulnerable.

1312
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 5: You have to be okay with being vulnerable, you have

1313
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 5: to be okay with being wrong. So if you let's

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01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 5: take a simpler analogy of developing a discernment. I'm a farmer,

1315
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 5: grew up on the farm, so it's easy to analogize it.

1316
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 5: Easy for a young person to conceptualize because of experiences

1317
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 5: on the farm. You see a problem, maybe there's something

1318
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 5: going on with the animals, something going on with a

1319
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 5: piece of machinery, something, and you start to think, well,

1320
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 5: what's exactly wrong here, and through discernment you actually investigate.

1321
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 5: It's kind of like an analogy of a science experiment.

1322
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 5: You start to have some hypothesis, you start to have

1323
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 5: create some ideas, you create a little experiment. It worked out,

1324
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 5: it didn't work out. I was right, I was wrong,

1325
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 5: and you build on that. Spiritually, there's a whole other

1326
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 5: aspect to discernment that It is easy to talk about

1327
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 5: discernment where you can put it in front of you

1328
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 5: and you can the glass is half full, of the

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01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 5: glass is full. I can conceptualize something that I'm doing

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01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 5: in an experiment, But spiritually there's another piece of that.

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01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,799
Speaker 5: It's very important for this time because when we're talking

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01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 5: about evil and good, when we're talking about the intent

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01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 5: of a person, it's not tangible. I can't like I

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01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 5: have this much salt, I have this much vinegar, I

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01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 5: have this much and it can create this experiment and

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01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 5: see the results. When you're talking about spiritual things, and

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 5: we can't be afraid of that anymore. I know it's

1338
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 5: not tangible, but you have to allow yourself to be

1339
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 5: vulnerable and dig into it because if you don't deal

1340
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 5: with this has been a perfect time to talk about

1341
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 5: this subject because I'm seeing You're seeing people who now

1342
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 5: since Charlie Kirk was assassinated, people are having a really

1343
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 5: tough time articulating what's going on? What am I feeling?

1344
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 5: What am I seeing? I've seen podcasts people who have said,

1345
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 5: I don't even I've never watched him before. This one

1346
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 5: lady was saying, and when I saw this, she went

1347
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 5: on and on about how she's heartbroken and although she

1348
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 5: had never watched him before, it has completely changed her life.

1349
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 5: So what has happened is that spiritual part of us

1350
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 5: has awakened a bit in our communities and in our nation,

1351
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 5: and people are wondering, what am I feeling? What am

1352
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 5: I Why do I feel this way? I didn't even

1353
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 5: know him, And they're trying to answer questions that they

1354
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 5: don't have, like a physical set of things to discern,

1355
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 5: but that spiritual discernment of there's something going on here

1356
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 5: that I can't put into words. It's powerful. Stuff, and

1357
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,839
Speaker 5: we don't have enough people around us who are actually

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01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 5: talking about that and helping people through it. And lately

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01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 5: that's why I've written so many of the articles that

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01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 5: I've written, is because not because I'm trying to be

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01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 5: like the person to do that. I'm just I'm doing

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01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 5: it for myself as much as I'm doing it for

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01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 5: anybody else. Yeah, because I'm feeling it too. And I

1364
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 5: don't know if you guys have been feeling it, but

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01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 5: the last four or five weeks have felt heavy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 4: I think after the school shooting that we just had

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01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 4: in Minneapolis that hit me really hard, and then the

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01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk situation happened. I was also in the boat

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Speaker 4: that I never really watched Charlie. I only ever saw

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 4: his clips from if there was a popular clip that

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01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 4: came by. But I think the best way that it

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01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 4: was put and I think a lot of people feel

1374
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 4: this way, and maybe they don't realize they feel this way,

1375
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 4: is because deep down, as a Republican, there's a lot

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01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 4: of times I just hold my tongue, but I'm like, no,

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01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 4: I know this is right, and I believe it with

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01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 4: all my heart. I should say it. I think a

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01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 4: lot of Republicans have that confidence, and Charlie was the

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01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: one that had that confidence. And now that we saw

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Speaker 4: him assassinated and then we see people celebrate it, we're

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01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 4: now at war thinking, man, would someone celebrate my death?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 4: Because I agreed with a lot of what that man said.

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01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 4: So I think that's where people are really feeling really

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01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 4: heavy about it, even if they never really watched.

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Speaker 2: It, like it was a personal assault on damn. Is

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01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: that what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think, which is like tough because I

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01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 4: don't know if like people should take their politics and

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01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 4: make it their whole personality or anything. But I think

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01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 4: that Republicans have been on the back burner of hold

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01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 4: your opinions because you might offend somebody. But a lot

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01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 4: of times we know that it's the right thing if

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01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,919
Speaker 4: we're talking about Jesus, if we're talking about family structure,

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01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,919
Speaker 4: whatever it is, a lot of us believe very strongly

1397
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 4: in our beliefs, but we've held our tongue to be nice.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Charlie was the one that didn't do that.

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01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 5: And back to the article, we're words that wound. I

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01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 5: dig into that a little bit where we've been sold

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01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 5: this paradigm that were that has exploited our decency, our

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01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 5: common sense, our courtesy, our virtues. And Charlie was brave

1404
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 5: enough and had enough courage to say, now I get it,

1405
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 5: but we have to have this conversation. Yeah, and too

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01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 5: many Republicans are too many people because again to me,

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01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 5: it's not about Republican A Democrats, because Democrats are way

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 5: more sold on it than Republicans. Democrats have totally bought

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01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 5: the entire concept that, yeah, we can't offend this, we

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01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 5: can't offend it, to the point where they're actually offending

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01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 5: the people they tried not to offend. Yeah, you know,

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01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 5: and so they've bought into this concept to the point

1413
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 5: where it's it's it's they've made our governance a god.

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01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 5: They've built their concept about right and wrong off of

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01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 5: putting their faith and trust in an institution that is contaminated, compromised,

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01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 5: and flawed. And again this comes from a personal conversation

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01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 5: from a mentor. Once our institutions become our god or

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01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 5: you know, and it's the globalism, it's all the things

1419
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 5: that we've already talked about is all packed into that.

1420
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 5: And why people can't walk away from it because they

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01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 5: believe with all their hearts and minds that they, oh,

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01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm a bad person if I insult somebody. No, my

1423
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 5: argument is you're a bad person if you don't walk

1424
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 5: up and say, especially as parents to children, young man,

1425
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 5: young lady, that is wrong. And you can kick, you

1426
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 5: can scream, you can yell, you can whatever you want

1427
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 5: to do, be nasty all you want, what you just

1428
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 5: did is wrong. And as a parent, as a leader,

1429
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 5: as a community leader, as a governor, as a legislator,

1430
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 5: if Charlie Kirk is the best example of let's have

1431
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 5: the conversation that is wrong and here's how. And most

1432
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 5: of the time, what's really exciting about watching Charlie's conversations

1433
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 5: is the person who's trying to argue actually argue themselves

1434
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 5: out of their false paradigm. And you can see the

1435
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 5: I love this the body language. I just love it

1436
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 5: because the ones that really did change during the conversations,

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01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 5: you can see their face just go, oh crap, he

1438
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 5: just talked me into exactly what I was saying.

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01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 2: No, dude, he's so just he's so disarming. The happy

1440
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: what do you call the happy helpers?

1441
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 5: Happy helpers?

1442
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: I mean, he would take these are his happy helpers

1443
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 2: because he has.

1444
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 3: To play in debate club in high school.

1445
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 4: Like watching his now that I've delved into more of

1446
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 4: his clips, he is a professional debater. He'll sit there

1447
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 4: with a smile after like screaming at someone and they're

1448
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 4: getting all intents and stuff and the timer goes off

1449
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 4: and he's like, that was a really good point.

1450
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: Good job.

1451
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 3: He was definitely in debate class.

1452
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: But you know what, this goes back to the idea

1453
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: of discernment, because to no right from wrong sometimes demands discernment.

1454
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: And I asked you to talk about it because one

1455
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: of the things as an educator, he maybe kind of

1456
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: liberated me from this activist thing because you know sometimes well,

1457
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm a community organizer. I mean, I'm just like Barack Obamah. No,

1458
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm into educating. We know what I'm really into.

1459
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm into exploring for myself and searching for truth myself

1460
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 2: and everybody gets to come along with this ride I'm

1461
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 2: taking because it's about me becoming the best me. That's

1462
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: really what I'm focused on doing. But the discernment issue,

1463
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: it's time that we the people understand that this whole

1464
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: edifice that we're caught up in is got nothing to

1465
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 2: do with God. The whole concept of spiritual has been

1466
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 2: removed from our institutions. That's the predicate. And so then

1467
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: when people start worshiping something that is not imbued with

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01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: any divine attributes, we're going down a difficult path. And

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01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: you know, interestingly, that can happen religiously too. I mean,

1470
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 2: there are you know, entire religious groups that make so

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01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 2: much of certain aspects of the quote unquote the word.

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01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: And I'm just going to not before I'm not going

1473
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: to get down on my own group, you know, I mean, okay,

1474
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's great to be educated, but you

1475
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: can get so educated you lose the ability to hear

1476
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 2: and discern right here right now, because there's precedent and

1477
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 2: then there's change. The world does have a process of change.

1478
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 2: We're in this moment of change. So discernment the discerning thing,

1479
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: just because I want to do my educational thing is

1480
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 2: when you say I have to be willing to be wrong.

1481
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 2: That's a very important part of it because and I

1482
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: say this all the time. Maybe I'm just analyzing myself,

1483
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, when I'm using this discernment, Maybe this is

1484
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: not correct because you don't you know you you get

1485
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: it right, hopefully more than you get it wrong. But

1486
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 2: you're leaving the orthodoxy and trying to move out using

1487
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 2: a spiritual insight to gain information. But matter is information

1488
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: and we're all connected. They call it the world wide Web.

1489
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,919
Speaker 2: They didn't make that up. That worldwide Web. Web concept

1490
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: goes back to old Europe, old Norse. It's old Norse magic.

1491
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 2: Everything's connected and you can move forward in time backward

1492
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 2: in time. There's information everywhere and we can tap it.

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01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: And if you grew up on the farm, you know

1494
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 2: it because there's no being a farmer and not having

1495
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 2: that discernment or nothing lives right. But I do I

1496
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: do want to I do want to say, you know,

1497
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 2: because we're going to run out of time. I do

1498
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 2: want to end with more strategy and tactics because I

1499
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: do I am moved by what Dan Schultz is saying.

1500
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 2: The other side of that coin is Dan, we need

1501
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 2: a big audience. So if we just do strategy and tactics,

1502
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 2: we're not going to build that army of people that

1503
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: are going to implement the strategy and tactics. But we

1504
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 2: do have an army. We've got a phil Parish army.

1505
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 2: So how are you going to take your ambassadors, your team,

1506
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: your supporters. How are you going to organize them A

1507
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 2: to win the endorsement and B to prevail in the

1508
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,799
Speaker 2: primary were we're only going to have a twenty percent

1509
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: voter turnout. What is your strategy and tactic?

1510
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 5: The core foundation is building relationships, and it is something

1511
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 5: that I've been building for a long time. Quite frankly,

1512
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 5: because some of my best supporters now are were some

1513
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 5: of my adversaries in twenty eighteen, and it took time

1514
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 5: for them. It wasn't about me. It was them and

1515
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 5: their paradigm shifting and changing and undersaying ooh, Phil was

1516
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 5: actually right about the fraud in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen.

1517
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 5: The county ambassador is going to be very important. The

1518
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 5: depth to Dan's onto something I don't remember his last name,

1519
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 5: not Schultz, is onto something in the sense of depth.

1520
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 5: What he's looking for is depth and a plan. One

1521
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 5: of the things that I learned through just observing and

1522
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 5: then making mistakes myself. When I talk about issues or

1523
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 5: I write about issues which you can attest to because

1524
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 5: you've read a lot of them, I don't just pontificate

1525
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 5: about what's wrong. I actually every single thing I write,

1526
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 5: I intentionally look for a plausible alternative or some suggested

1527
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 5: plan to go after solving the problem, because anybody can

1528
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 5: stand on stage, or anybody can go to the bar

1529
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 5: stool and whine and complain all day long. But I think,

1530
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 5: what you're noticing, and Dan's noticing, and lots of people

1531
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 5: like us are noticing, we have to have a plan.

1532
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 5: Another thing, I don't even remember it was you that

1533
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 5: said it. I think it's actually I do know who

1534
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 5: it was said at first, but one of my supporters said, Phil,

1535
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 5: you need to start acting like the governor. And I thought, well,

1536
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 5: that's a little arrogant, But then he explained more and

1537
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 5: and it really switched something in my brain. So how

1538
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 5: we're going to win is we are acting like we're winning.

1539
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 5: We are. Everything we're doing is going to be geared

1540
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 5: around the fact that we're walking in on day one

1541
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 5: with the hundred day plan, with the people in lined

1542
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 5: up for the positions that are appointed by the governor,

1543
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 5: the lists of people that are going to be then

1544
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 5: vetted by the congressional ones that have to go through

1545
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 5: the House representatives in the Senate. Every single one of

1546
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 5: those people I'm making every effort to have all lined

1547
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 5: up before I get there. And although that sounds abstract

1548
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 5: or ahead of the cart and the horse not connected,

1549
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 5: it's actually very connected because what that does is it

1550
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 5: starts to build comfort for the people who are not

1551
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 5: bad actors in our institutions. They're hard way people that care.

1552
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 5: They need to know the candidate's got an idea of

1553
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 5: how we're going to keep the team running, keep the

1554
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 5: machine going, you know, fix the tractor in the field

1555
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 5: and get the hey the hay build and done the haymout.

1556
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 5: You know, it's not a good feeling to be in

1557
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 5: the middle of the field and the storm's coming and

1558
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 5: the tractors broke and no one that can fix the

1559
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 5: tractors anywhere to be found. It causes discomfort for although

1560
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 5: our institutions have lost a lot of trust with people,

1561
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 5: there's still good people in there, and they need to

1562
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 5: know that they have someone coming in to have a

1563
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 5: good people that are going to be there to help

1564
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 5: them and have their back, help them lead and solve problems,

1565
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 5: and not just leave it for the hearing yesterday with

1566
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 5: the fraud hearing, Oh bless them all. I don't mean

1567
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 5: to disrespect people.

1568
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 2: But give us more money so we can ask them.

1569
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 5: If that's the intellect and logic extreme of how to

1570
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 5: go about fraud. We're in for big trouble and there's

1571
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 5: more fraud comings. And I know that I'm not alone.

1572
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 5: So these people that are in the background that never

1573
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 5: get heard from or never get any attention or never

1574
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 5: get a scene, in the background, that are working hard.

1575
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 5: Secretary of State's Office, the Justice Department, Department of Human Services.

1576
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 5: There's good people in the background that know what's right

1577
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 5: and wrong, but they don't have anybody there that's actually

1578
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 5: effective and efficient and actually getting the job done. It's

1579
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 5: about having enough merit. All this DEI stuff is just destroyed.

1580
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 5: Our culture has destroyed our institutions. You have to have

1581
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 5: people that have demonstrated a merit, have merit to be

1582
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 5: there and.

1583
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 2: That you're talking about.

1584
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 5: And it's just watching that hearing yesterday, I just walked

1585
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 5: away going, Wow, We've got a lot of work to do.

1586
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 2: People.

1587
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 5: So we're going to have good people in place. We're

1588
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 5: going to engage those people, and that's going to grow

1589
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 5: people being involved with the party as well or with

1590
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 5: me and the team, but with Republican Party it's going

1591
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 5: to grow people's involvement because you start tapping on people

1592
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 5: you're going to be commissioner. You're going to be a commissioner.

1593
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 5: You're going to be the head of this department. Each

1594
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 5: one of their friends and their family members are going

1595
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 5: to say he wants you to be the commissioner, and

1596
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 5: then that's going to multiply conversations and multiply. So that's

1597
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 5: why the county ambassadors are so important, speaking and writing

1598
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 5: with depth and plan involving these people. I want the

1599
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 5: whole team picked before we even get anywhere close to

1600
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,520
Speaker 5: the primary.

1601
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 2: And people then, of course know they're part of something

1602
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 2: which which you're tell me implicity. Are you saying that

1603
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: that will motivate them to be more engaged participants.

1604
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 5: More engaged and more willing to say, oh, he actually

1605
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 5: has something to say or actually has something he can do.

1606
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 2: Which they can then proliferate at the grassroots level, period

1607
01:33:59,120 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: to peer.

1608
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 5: Because one of the most important things that all of

1609
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 5: us have been witnessing but few people are taking on

1610
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 5: is the reality is we have limited time, we have

1611
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 5: limited willingness, limited financial capacity, and people are literally are

1612
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 5: the most effective people I'm running into. They don't have

1613
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 5: time to waste with hours and hours of meetings and

1614
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 5: talking in circles. They want somebody to help them make

1615
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 5: a decision and move forward. And those are the people

1616
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 5: that I'm counting on. And that's how we're going to win,

1617
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 5: is people that are just motivated to get up and

1618
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:34,440
Speaker 5: get the job done.

1619
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Ultimately, to close out the podcast, we're going to be

1620
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 2: in a primary. I mean, you're seeing it common Yep.

1621
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 2: You know, you win the endorsement, you're going to get primaried,

1622
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 2: right more or less. It's certain.

1623
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 5: All the candidates have already written and said that they're

1624
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,839
Speaker 5: going to the primary. So it's a done deal already.

1625
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So how do you get out the vote for

1626
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Phil Parish in that primary when we only have a

1627
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: twenty percent voter participation rate? What's what's the strategy? Because

1628
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 2: get out the vote is ultimately what the party is about.

1629
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, yesterday's special election is concerning to me because there's

1630
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 5: some fact to the fact that how many people actually

1631
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 5: show up in such and such special elections and off

1632
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 5: of the presidential year. There is some truth to that,

1633
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 5: but I think some of it's a false paradigm. I

1634
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 5: actually wrote a piece on his success of winning the

1635
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:30,560
Speaker 5: the special election yesterday. Lee is his last name. Yeah,

1636
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 5: there's some actual, really disturbing data points that came out

1637
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 5: of yesterday's special election, which.

1638
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 2: For those of you, we had this awful this round

1639
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 2: of killings.

1640
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:44,560
Speaker 5: Theremen's assassination led to this special election Lee won yesterday.

1641
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 2: Or if you're if you're international listener of you're we

1642
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 2: had a terrible assassination of our House Speaker, Melissa Hortman,

1643
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: and a state senator was shot, grievously wounded. Melissa Hortman's

1644
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 2: husband was also so that forced the special election to

1645
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 2: replace her, so unfortunately, and the Democrats prevailed. I think

1646
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 2: it was like a sixty forty split.

1647
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,839
Speaker 5: Was that something like that, like a twenty percent difference,

1648
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 5: and you know the outcome. But again that to your

1649
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 5: point that the turnout there's there's there's something about the numbers.

1650
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 5: Please read my article. It's but because there's no way

1651
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 5: I can rehearse and tell you exactly, but I pointed

1652
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 5: out some specific data points that caused people to think

1653
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 5: there's something not quite right here with the results and

1654
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 5: the amounts of people and the amounts of votes and

1655
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 5: the amounts of people that didn't vote. There's something very

1656
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 5: questionable about what happened yet again, and so I think.

1657
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 2: In your questioning the election integrity.

1658
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 5: Absolutely about it at all. Please read the article. So

1659
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,839
Speaker 5: you're very discernible, Okay, very discernible.

1660
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: So you're saying, if I'm understanding correctly, that that special

1661
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 2: election from your perspective, is just another data point of

1662
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,839
Speaker 2: potential voter irregularity.

1663
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 5: It illustrates some implausibilities that can't be ignored, and it's

1664
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 5: got to be talked about more openly, and they have

1665
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 5: to clean the vote. Back to my memorandum that I

1666
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 5: wrote to President Trump, I'm not saying it has anything

1667
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 5: to do with his executive orders he wrote, but the

1668
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 5: legislation that got passed about election integrity has teeth in it.

1669
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 5: And I am counting on President Trump. I'm counting on

1670
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 5: Pam Bundy, I'm counting on Cash Betel to follow through

1671
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 5: with those election roles and clearing those roles. If we

1672
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 5: don't clear the roles.

1673
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: Voter roles, the lists of eligible voter, we do not

1674
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 2: clear the voter roles, clean them up, and clean it up.

1675
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter how good we are, It doesn't matter

1676
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 5: if God himself stands beside me. We're not going to

1677
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 5: win because they will cheat again, and they've repeatedly cheated

1678
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 5: and yesterday results is another data point in that they

1679
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 5: haven't gotten it right yet. Steve Simon can say all

1680
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 5: he wants to say, it's a lie that read my piece.

1681
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 5: It has clear data points in it that are just

1682
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:15,440
Speaker 5: simply statistically impossible.

1683
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Now in a functional Republican party, when I say functional

1684
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 2: on a statewide basis in our own local areas, wouldn't

1685
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: that be a primary driver of the local units to

1686
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 2: work to clean up these voter rolls? And is that happening?

1687
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,799
Speaker 5: No, not yet, But if Pam Bundy, if they finally

1688
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 5: get Steve Simon to cooperate with turning over the roles,

1689
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 5: which is a very interesting I wrote about that too,

1690
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 5: is a very interesting how they demanded, you know, hey,

1691
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 5: we need those, and then Steve said, no, you can't

1692
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 5: have them. And then a few days later we had

1693
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 5: the big cyber attack, where oh really, and now we've

1694
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 5: had no discussion about the voter roles since a cyber attack.

1695
01:38:55,640 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 2: Allegedly, you're dragging us out to some very deep water

1696
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 2: for the end of the podcast. It almost means you're

1697
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 2: going to have to come back because you know, why

1698
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 2: don't you study that article? You know, because this is

1699
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 2: really now we're getting into something that is an action item.

1700
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 2: We do have people in the state of Minnesota that

1701
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 2: are actively engaged with this. You know, I ran a

1702
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 2: thing of educational programs for the party. I really didn't

1703
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 2: want to run it through the party, but my political

1704
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 2: mentor said, you know, you're an officer, you got to

1705
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 2: run this through the party. So I went to the

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Speaker 2: party to get this is in twenty twenty one, to

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Speaker 2: get the parties backing for what I was doing. And

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Speaker 2: the local leader of CD three at that time, a

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Speaker 2: guy named Randy Sutter, said, Okay, well back you, but

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01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 2: promise me you'll never bring up issues of election integrity. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're still kind of in that this goes

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01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: into paradigms, doesn't it. Paradigm shifting, paradigm cracking. You're the

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Speaker 2: first person that's ever come in here as a candidate

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Speaker 2: with me. Now, you know, Rece talks about it, but

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm not interviewing him. He's just talking about

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01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 2: it on Free People Radio. I think that's a stunning

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01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 2: thing to say. And if I heard you're right, you

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01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 2: said there are irregularly there's data points and analysis that

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01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 2: reveal to you military ex military intelligence not a of course,

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01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 2: that can be an oxymoron, but in your case, I

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01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 2: don't think so. And you saw things that made you

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01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 2: very concerned about those results. So this we're gonna end here.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry to say we can't end yet because I

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01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 4: said I was going to pull up this wall video

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Speaker 4: so we might have a couple of fans that have

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Speaker 4: been waiting for this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, we're gonna We're okay, Thank you, Tanner.

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01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 2: Go ahead, fire it up.

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Speaker 5: Let's go for a ride.

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 6: I've been to every corner of Minnesota and there's nothing

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01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 6: like it. It's the best place on earth with the

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01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 6: best people. I've seen how we help each other through.

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01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 7: The hard times, and boy, we've seen terrible times this year.

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01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 7: I'm heartbroken and angry about the beautiful people we lost

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01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 7: to gun violence. But it's in these moments we have

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01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 7: to come together.

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01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 6: We can't lose hope because I've seen what we can

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01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 6: do when we work together, like passing paid family lead

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01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 6: and the child tax Credit, cutting taxes for the middle

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01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 6: class while also making the largest investments in public safety.

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01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 6: We've raised graduation rates to the highest ever, worked across

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01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 6: party lines to balance the budget while protecting education, and

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01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 6: been named one of the best states for children and

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01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,759
Speaker 6: one of the best for business. But we're not done yet,

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01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 6: and that's why I'm running for reelection. I want to

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01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 6: make Minnesota a place where everyone has a chance to

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01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,759
Speaker 6: succeed in every corner of the state. Where we lower

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01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 6: costs for hardworking people who raise our crops, weld our steel,

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01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 6: and teach our kids. Crack down on fraud and protect

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01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 6: our tax dollars. Help working class families get affordable healthcare

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01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 6: instead of kicking them off it, invest in improving our

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01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:24,759
Speaker 6: public schools instead of defunding them, get serious about gun violence,

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01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 6: and where we protect our rights and freedoms.

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Speaker 2: No matter what you look like, are who you love.

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01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 6: I've always tried to do what's right for Minnesota, and

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01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 6: I'll never stop fighting to protect us from the chaos, corruption,

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01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 6: and cruelty coming out of Washington. Now I'm hitting the

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01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:44,839
Speaker 6: road to listen to you and talk about our future.

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01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 6: I'll see you out there.

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01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 5: Okay, So there's some great follow up videos. Every single

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01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 5: one of his points the exact opposite is true. Yeah,

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01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 5: and it just made me ill to watch it because

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01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 5: I was like, first of all, I can't watch this

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01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,799
Speaker 5: that I made myself watch it, And then within twenty

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01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 5: four hours there's great follow up videos where.

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01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,440
Speaker 2: They take parity, take his video.

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01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:22,440
Speaker 5: Pull it apart, and insert the actually what happened, including

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01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 5: the fact that the mandates to public schools that were

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01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 5: never funded, including the fact that medicaid level of fraud,

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01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 5: and Medicaid which kicked under his administration, which kicked people

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01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 5: off of Medicaid because of the level of fraud, the

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01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 5: housing program which they completely shut down because every single

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01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 5: was all fraud.

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Speaker 2: So then to make the statement that Minnesota is hospitable

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01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 2: for business, and there is. You know, I'm a business

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01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 2: owner here in Minnesota. It's very difficult to do.

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Speaker 5: I thought that I thank him for his video because

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01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 5: because quite frankically, it brilliantly helps the rest of us.

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01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 2: You know what, Tanner, for a subsequent podcast, we should

1782
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 2: get those parody videos and play them. You know, yeah,

1783
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 2: every podcast will fire one up there, not really to

1784
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 2: help fail specifically, but just to help the Republican cause

1785
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 2: in general, because you know, there's a shamelessness that comes

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01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 2: with BS and at this level, yeah.

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01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 5: At that level of dishonesty that takes some people here

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01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 5: agains the paradigm shift. Some people are the paradigm has

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01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 5: cracked wide open, and ah yeah, that's the biggest bunch

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01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 5: of lies I've ever seen. But there's still this group

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01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 5: of people that oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And oh wait

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01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 5: a minute, is he really being that bold that. I mean,

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01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 5: there's so much of it it's not even plausible anymore.

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01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 2: Well, that's that curated political I mean, he looks the part,

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01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 2: he speaks to the Party's a great actor.

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01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,759
Speaker 5: He loved the staged acting, you know, the T shirt

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01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 5: and then the.

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01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah it was very well done, very well funded, advantage,

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01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 2: the one truck and the one thing that you had

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Speaker 2: right ignition.

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01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 5: Key, what an actor.

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01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you the one thing that did strike

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01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 2: me was in the scene with the healthcare. The woman

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01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 2: that was seeing the doctor. She actually looked afraid. She

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01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 2: did no. I mean, I you know, we go to

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01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 2: and I don't know if I said this when you

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01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 2: were here last time. I get the same feeling going

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01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 2: to the Department of Motor Vehicles. I kept going to

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01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 2: the doctor whoa this is a little scary in here. Phil,

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01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming in. It was great

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01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 2: to talk with you. The discussion of strategy and tactics

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01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 2: needs to continue. I you know, this is me being

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01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 2: Any political politics has got some user user using thing.

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01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 2: What I want to use the campaigns for is to

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01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 2: get people involved in self governance. And I hope that

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01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 2: you know when you become a governor, if you are

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01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 2: blessed to become governor, that you actually when you go

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01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 2: up to the microphone and address the crowd, ask people

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01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 2: have you joined local party? Where are our politicians are

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01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 2: elected officials? When have I ever had someone elected to

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01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 2: office stand up before the mic and say could you

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01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,799
Speaker 2: please join your party? Could you please? Could you please

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01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 2: exercise your citizenship? Because I have never heard it never

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01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 2: and if and.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting you bring that up because it's just a

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01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 5: little flash memory of Steve Swiggham. We're sitting in class

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01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,480
Speaker 5: and government class, and that essentially was what the conversation

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01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 5: was about, have you gotten involved? And they and the

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01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 5: teachers were great, the school district and stuff and principle,

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01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 5: they were all supportive of getting involved and they didn't

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01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 5: care if it was Republican or a Democrat just.

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01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 2: But it's great high school civics. I want to see

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01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:50,680
Speaker 2: someone like Julia Coleman stride up to the microphone and

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01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 2: ask people. But you know, my purse, this is a

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01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 2: discernment issue. Could be analyzing myself. But you know, if

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01:46:58,040 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 2: we brought a lot of new people into the party,

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01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 2: the party might change in people or in power now

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01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:05,679
Speaker 2: might find themselves out of power.

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01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so have a little.

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01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 2: Boldness our elected officials, because we're at such a potent

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01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 2: moment in human history and let's really encourage people to

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01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: do what be Americans. Yeah, and on that note, great

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01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 2: to see it. Thank you very much for.

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01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 5: Coming to us.

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01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're all welcome. Danner, thank you very much.

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01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,240
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