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Speaker 2: Using will be wong too. It's time to bang. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is our life, this is our passion. Will be

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Speaker 2: here for the next two hours. Hey, it's morning combat.

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Speaker 2: Back in your face hole on this Monday, May twelfth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, looking to sweep up, wrap up, and

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Speaker 2: fifteen in Montreal. Brian Campbell that BBC with at BD

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Speaker 2: level all right? Here we going back that guy from

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: This job is going to send me to an early grave,

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Speaker 3: And when I say this job, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: we would love to have your job. Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 3: I love this job too. It's not that I don't

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Speaker 1: I love the job.

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Speaker 3: But the four am four am bit from Saturday night

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Speaker 2: It's also your life habits just possibly.

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Speaker 1: I don't I didn't drink or do anything.

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Speaker 2: Combat is brought to you by DraftKings, and as always

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Speaker 2: with DraftKings, the crown is yours. Thank you for everybody watching.

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Speaker 2: That's want to be clear on the DraftKings networks live

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Speaker 1: No, no, I love the job.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying my body is frail and broken, and

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Speaker 2: You just got to keep fighting, you know, you just

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Speaker 2: Just like Belal, that guy went through hell to try

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Speaker 1: We have a picture of his split list.

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Speaker 2: Can we just show that early? Can we show this early?

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Speaker 2: Dana White submitted picture on the social media web. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god is broken nose, broken orbital bone and a

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Speaker 2: pay per view recap here from maral Or Montreal as

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Speaker 1: Even the funny thing that we were talking about this

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Speaker 3: One of the things that you know, there are a

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Speaker 3: Like from this is what I mean, Like from the minute,

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Speaker 3: But to really answer that question, BC, we have to

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Speaker 3: Part of the reason why I think he was more

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Speaker 3: flat inner back. He's creating space. I showed Long Island

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Speaker 2: You touched him a lot, and you and you.

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Speaker 1: Touching is part of life. PC, You've touched my soul

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Speaker 2: If you want to recreate it, we probably could.

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Speaker 3: And using that to create space in the clinch was

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Speaker 3: in the clinch. But more importantly than that, we did.

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Speaker 1: Tape study on my substack.

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Speaker 1: We did. We did, Oh wait, you did. Well.

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Speaker 3: What we found is that what JDM really lacked in

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Speaker 3: the point, to greet offense with defense at the point

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Speaker 3: of contact such that the ball was deterred heavily. People

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Speaker 3: like he didn't shoot. He shot in every round, but

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Speaker 3: the thirty tried takedowns in all five. Go back and

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Speaker 3: watch watched it.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing there for him because when he did

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Speaker 1: Is not Leon Edwards.

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Speaker 3: Where Leon was getting pressed up against the fence and

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Speaker 3: Leon is trying to press his way out of it. No,

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Speaker 3: and then the last piece PC in addition to the

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Speaker 3: first order takedown defense that he got better his yeah,

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Speaker 3: shot selection, you know, using teeps, using jabs, all that

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Speaker 3: Leon down. The fight starts and Leon just backs up

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Speaker 3: to the fence. That's just not what JDM did for

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Speaker 3: twenty five minutes. It is a comprehensively good game plan

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Speaker 3: to aid both the strength of his striking and to

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Speaker 1: And it left Blall who could.

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Speaker 3: Have wrestled more, but in general it left him in

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Speaker 2: And I like what how Blall reacted to reacted to

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Speaker 2: the effort to get those takedowns, wasn't there? Look, he

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Speaker 2: a back door three to two Blall scoring argument. I

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Speaker 2: you could. You could have given him three and four.

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Speaker 2: But shout out to Jack in the fifth round when

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Speaker 2: Jack's the one who doesn't have the reputation for going

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Speaker 2: it's like, how are you gonna call Blal boring all

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Speaker 2: and you don't know it until you see it was

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like kind of like how DDP came

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Speaker 2: But the poise in the I got this feeling. Dude,

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Speaker 2: Jack had that like he was in control of that

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Speaker 2: even when he got close, even when he was taking

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Speaker 2: Couple weren't answer. The dude speaks softfully, but he's got

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Speaker 8: Congratulations on the victory. You know, it was a bit

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Speaker 8: would have maybe expected that from below, But what were

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Speaker 8: you expecting it from him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I was expecting a tough fight. Obviously, he's a good fighter,

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Speaker 9: I was expecting a tough fight.

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Speaker 8: Were you surprised perhaps that he didn't go for as

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Speaker 9: Not really, I mean he was saying he wasn't going

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Speaker 9: I guess you can never expect anything. You just got

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Speaker 8: I felt like most of your best exchanges were sort

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Speaker 9: Going with the fly. I was trying to the game

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Speaker 9: plan was to stay off the fence. I feel like

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Speaker 9: just wore. He was just walking down, pushing me up

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Speaker 8: Fifth round A look like you had him badly hurt.

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Speaker 8: I was curious if you felt you nearly had him

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was hoping to get him out of that.

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Speaker 9: IVE been thinking all week it'd be cool to get

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Speaker 9: that like late fight finish, like the Gilbert Burns like

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Speaker 9: it felt good to rally through and then take him

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Speaker 9: out at the end. But I tried confident you had

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Speaker 9: to win. When he went to the judges, ah, you

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Speaker 9: never know. But I was confident that done pretty good work.

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Speaker 9: But I guess you never know when you leave it

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Speaker 9: to the judges. My corner kept when I finished the fight,

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Speaker 2: Four to one is how I scored it. But I

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Speaker 2: agree with it. You want to hear Robert Whitaker and

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Speaker 2: and like that. What's fueling that?

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Speaker 1: So it's not an all or nothing thing. I think

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Speaker 10: Okay. Now it's it's easy for me to say on

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Speaker 10: What had happened to him during the far. I don't

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Speaker 10: the third or fourth round when he mixed in his

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Speaker 10: to bring Jack onto it, to mix into his shots,

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Speaker 10: they were clean every time, every time. I think He's

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Speaker 10: drawing Jack into it sort of thing. Now, why didn't

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Speaker 10: we see more of that? You know, I can't help

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Speaker 10: but feel like Blow was trying to make a point

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Speaker 10: I think so, and and if.

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Speaker 4: That's the case, that is ridiculous, big mistake, right, Like, hey,

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Speaker 4: so is.

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Speaker 2: The argument more off the start of the fight?

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Speaker 7: Then?

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Speaker 2: Would you would you agree with that? I think Jack?

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Speaker 2: What are the official statistics on takedown.

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling it up now. He went two of nine overall?

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Speaker 2: Yes, so ballaal it was two of nine overall.

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Speaker 1: And what he attempted?

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Speaker 2: How many attempts in the first two rounds?

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Speaker 3: He attempted one in round one, he attempted three in

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Speaker 3: round two. Now, fight Metric has him as zero for

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Speaker 3: different way of how you record what needfully counts as

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Speaker 3: a takedown, what counts as a takedown attempt. But he

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Speaker 3: absolutely went for him up against the fence and couldn't

441
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Speaker 3: even begin to get close to it.

442
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Speaker 2: I mean so, but does any part of Robert Whitaker's take,

443
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Speaker 2: which a lot of people out there have true, because

444
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 2: Whitaker specifically pointing to the beginning of the fight, if

445
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 2: he only shoots for one takedown in the first round

446
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 2: and three in the second and ends up going down

447
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 2: three to zero on most people's scorecards, that's how I

448
00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 2: had it at that point.

449
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Speaker 1: Three Just just just to answer the question, is three

450
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 1: not enough per round?

451
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to I'm trying to say, is this

452
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 2: just because people hate pull alling? It?

453
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Speaker 1: Is?

454
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 2: It seems to be like people were dunking on it

455
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 2: left and right.

456
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Speaker 3: So partly it could be that people don't like ball all.

457
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,479
Speaker 3: The other one is that you remember he did say,

458
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Speaker 3: oh I'm gonna I'm not gonna shoot one takedown, I'm gonna.

459
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Speaker 1: Stand with it.

460
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 3: We all know it was kind of silly, and so they're thinking, oh,

461
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 3: is it just is that what he did again? I'm

462
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 3: gonna say one more time. Can I go and find

463
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 3: spots where I thought he could have been a little

464
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: bit more on the gas with wrestling exchanges or an

465
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Speaker 3: attempt to some kind of even if it failed, some

466
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: kind of weight of pressure. But I'm gonna say it

467
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 3: one more time. Number One, the round where he did

468
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Speaker 3: the most amount of wrestling was the round he took

469
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Speaker 3: the most amount of abuse.

470
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Speaker 1: Just a fact.

471
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Speaker 3: Number two, the idea that he wasn't trying for takedowns

472
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: until round three is just matter of factly invented on

473
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Speaker 3: the internet. It's not what the tape shows. People have

474
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Speaker 3: got to stop saying it, Okay, And the biggest point

475
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 3: is Jack Dala Madelena did an absolutely expert job, not

476
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Speaker 3: just at stopping takedowns once they got started. But people

477
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 3: go back and look at the If you didn't go

478
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 3: back and watch the Leon fight, watch the Leon fight,

479
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 3: then watch this one. Look at where Jack is. He

480
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 3: is always just a little bit outside of shooting range,

481
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 3: not always, but pretty consistently, and he is never here.

482
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 3: He is always in here. Ballall has a hard time

483
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: taking guys down. He did get one in the fifth

484
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 3: round that way, but then he then Jack get the

485
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 3: knee lever and got up, so he was able to

486
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: get one that way. But this idea of like dude

487
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 3: Lal Muhammed is not morob. He does not shoot twenty

488
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Speaker 3: takedowns a fight.

489
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Speaker 2: Not Damian Maya. But he might, to be fair, he

490
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: may have felt on the first takedown attempt in that

491
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: round one like, oh, this guy has leveled up so

492
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: significantly there. I mean, it's hard for me in hindsight

493
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Speaker 2: to say you should have spammed him in the first

494
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: couple of rounds. That would have really negatively affected Blal's

495
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: gas tank. And he was hanging close enough, he was

496
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: competitive enough in the first three rounds where maybe in

497
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: his mind he thought he won round three and then

498
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,479
Speaker 2: he did turn it up in terms of mixing up

499
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: the takedowns and the striking in four. But round five,

500
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: I think you got to give credit for Jack coming

501
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: out and putting it on him. He would the fact.

502
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's everything what you're saying about meeting the

503
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: takedown attempts of Ballow, and he was meeting a lot

504
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: of times with not just pushback, but with offense. This

505
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 2: was a brilliant footwork and technical boxing performance overall from

506
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Speaker 2: Jack Dela MATLANEA, and I think that needs to be

507
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: pushed further ahead of any of these other times.

508
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Speaker 1: I fully agree. Let me just read you these numbers

509
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: very quickly.

510
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: These are the amount of takedowns that Belall has gotten

511
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: per fight ready three nine zero zero five seven that

512
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: was against wonder Boy zero zero one two two two

513
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: zero three one four two zero three two. If you've

514
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: got a guy who doesn't make himself available for takedowns,

515
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: and then when you try is your grip can't get together,

516
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 3: you're getting stuffed immediately, and then you're getting hit as

517
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: a consequence. Why is the notion BC this is I

518
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: guess this is the part that bothers me. They're making

519
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 3: it about whether or not Blall could have made a

520
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 3: different choice, and that would have been like it was

521
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: all his decision. Yeah, And I'm trying to explain to people, Yeah,

522
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: there were probably a series of smaller decisions that could

523
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: have changed it. But the idea that every part of

524
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 3: this was basically just Blall's decision is matter of factly

525
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: not fucking true.

526
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: The tape doesn't show it. That's not what happened.

527
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: We won't talk about this as much, even though on

528
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: topic two we'll talk about how this fight affects the

529
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: UFC schedule in the future, and it does in a

530
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: big way, in almost unique and unprecedented ways. But did

531
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: you feel this changing of the guard because it puts

532
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: a fresh faced champion who's unbeaten in the organization. He's

533
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 2: actually under thirty, which doesn't typically happy and this happened in.

534
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: This situationion in Saint Pierre won seventeen.

535
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: When the title changed his hands and he's exciting, and

536
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: he pulled the guy that with everybody called the boring

537
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: champion into a super exciting final round that made that

538
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: it was like a crescendo at the end of the

539
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: paper review, right, it made it feel Okay, that was

540
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: an exciting show and that fight was good. Did you

541
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: feel like like for all this talk about star issues

542
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: and so that this was a refreshing change of events

543
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: over the weekend, Even though that's not a slight against ballall,

544
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: it's just sort of like I felt like, oh, there's hope.

545
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: There's more hope.

546
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: Than there was, you know, an hour before, and just

547
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: just I mean, lightweight's got bigger stars, you know, because

548
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: you still have the guys hanging on like the gay

549
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: cheese and the Poirier's and whatnot. Now Max is up

550
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: there and Ilia, obviously we'll talk about him, I'm sure.

551
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: But one seventies, that's the division of young Guns, Brady

552
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 3: JDM shovcot Gary Buckley.

553
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: It just goes on and on.

554
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: It is so freaking exciting to answer your question, to

555
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: watch a division get the kind of turnover that I

556
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: would consider to be natural, or somebody who leveled up

557
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: in their late twenties claims the title and does it

558
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: in what I'm going to describe as pretty dominant fashion.

559
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: The only thing I would say is I don't see

560
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: somebody at one seventy. I mean, maybe it'll be Rockemanov,

561
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: but he's he's got some stuff.

562
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: To work on.

563
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: At this point, I don't see any of them who

564
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: are clearly head and shoulders above the rest. So we

565
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: might get a hot potato situation with that belt. B

566
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: see where every time a new challenger comes along, someone

567
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 3: else is just grabbing it.

568
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: Shot cuts healing up, so it's almost got quasi light

569
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: heavyweight pre John Jones.

570
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: So what I'm gonna say is it feels to me though,

571
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: but it's great to see healthy division turnover. A guy

572
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: in his late twenties should be the guy in his

573
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: late thirties, and that's exactly what you got.

574
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 2: And this could be a guy that fans potentially get behind.

575
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: We'll see he's not overly trash talkery, although he fielded

576
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: the E Garry stuff well and could.

577
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: Probably he does the cold stare role well.

578
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: Pretty much pretty much. Indeed, Luke Thomas blah Muhammed, let's show,

579
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: let's compare that lip injury to those other famous ones

580
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: that we reference. There, look at that slice slipped over

581
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: him on the right, Robbie Lawler on the left. Right there, Wow,

582
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: he went through hell. Do you think this will be

583
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: I'll bring a vander Holyfield in the example. He was

584
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 2: because he didn't win the heavyweight championship by going through

585
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: Tyson and because he was sort of the looked at

586
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: as the small cruiserweight who didn't have the same heavyweight

587
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: power moving up that it almost took him losing the

588
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: title to Ritick bow in their first fight, but fighting

589
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: with so much heart and character for people to be like,

590
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: oh my god, he is one of the great ones,

591
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: Like he's awesome. Do you think there's this poor man's

592
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: version of that? Well, ballaal finally get the respect that

593
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: that the critics and the haters have held back because

594
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: in defeat, dude, he gave himself every possible chance to

595
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: win and went out like a freaking warrior.

596
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: But here's here's what I don't understand.

597
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: How can the crowd say, well, all could have wrestled

598
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: more and just chose not to because he wanted to

599
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: stand and then all, do you hate this guy? Yeah,

600
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: and then also say he fought like a warrior and

601
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 3: did everything he could. Well, you're arguing he didn't. If

602
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: you're saying he could have wrestled more and didn't, like,

603
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: the argument is inherently contradictory. So this is why to me,

604
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't could he have wrestled more? Yes,

605
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: he might come out and say this week, I should

606
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: have wrestled more, like I understand it, but I I

607
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: don't think that would have changed the equation. I really don't.

608
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: I think JDM had his number that night. He was

609
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 3: just comprehensively better. But I do agree BC that, Like,

610
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can look at that photo

611
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: and then look at the overall amount of effort he gave,

612
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: including with his own striking which we haven't even talked about,

613
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: which was not as good as Jadm's but still quite

614
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: commendable and definitely and you know, he was in that

615
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 3: fight to win it and not come away without a

616
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: strong degree of respect for what kind of a fighter

617
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 3: he is. Listen, there's gonna be people who don't like him,

618
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: because that's just the thing to do. It's just to

619
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: pretend that he's you know, uniquely horrible or something like that.

620
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: But anybody who knows Ball can look at that and

621
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: be like, was it a perfect fight from ballall?

622
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: No? No, but it was a fucking hard nose commendable one. Dude.

623
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: You never quit with the internet saying that the UFC

624
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: broadcast was too pro blall because yes, John's brother, John

625
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: nix brotherho's a podcast.

626
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: With I don't know if it was too bold. I mean, listen,

627
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: you've done. This is something for you to weigh it on.

628
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: Because I've done commentary for smaller events. I've never done

629
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: commentary for like a big You've done Tank Davis commentary.

630
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 11: Right.

631
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: People sometimes get on the booth and they say, oh,

632
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: the booth is biased, and sometimes they're right. Sometimes the

633
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: booth can be biased, but not in the way that

634
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 3: this is describing, like, oh, John's got his brother's in

635
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: business with him, and so therefore he's just you know,

636
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: artificially propping up the look or the entrance.

637
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: You think it was too far.

638
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: They're going to side with the champion. Not every time,

639
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: but more often than not. Yes, he probably does have

640
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: affectionate feelings in that way for Blall, but I didn't

641
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: think it was that. I just felt like the attention

642
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: was about Belall. The commentary, this is why we're having

643
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: this conversation. The commentary was why is in ballall shooting more?

644
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: Why is and ballall shooting more? And they made it

645
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: like it was an elective decision at all times.

646
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: So there's just this focus about him.

647
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: Plus he was the champ going in and you know

648
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: there's going to be more attention on you for that reason.

649
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: So they could have been biased BC that's to me

650
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: totally normal, but I don't think they were biased.

651
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: For like felt, I felt the criticism was more overblown

652
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 2: than the actual commentary was. But here is Balal his

653
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: first statement since the loss, taking to social media, saying,

654
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: allows plan is the best plan for everything. Thank you

655
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: to all my supporters. I always pronounced that wrong, Al

656
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Speaker 2: hum Dala, sorry, thank you to all my supporters. I've

657
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: been here before and I'll be back. He will be

658
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: thirty seven in two months. But although our net we're

659
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: gonna slide into this next topic where we're going to

660
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: talk about what's next for the champion and everybody else affiliated,

661
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: that we don't have Bilal's future. Does he float away

662
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: from title contention after this or is he very much

663
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: one big win, one bounce back from from still being

664
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Speaker 2: in here.

665
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: He is good enough to give anyone in that division,

666
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: in the top five, a run for their money. But

667
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: I've said it before, once you become separated from the

668
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: UFC title, it's virtually impossible to get it back.

669
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: Only the very very special onescially in a deep division.

670
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: And if Mahachev is coming now, that'll make it up.

671
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

672
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: So you've got, as you mentioned, Buckley and Gary and

673
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Shafcot and Brady, and now you're going to add in

674
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: Islam on top of it, like holy.

675
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: But there's probably a clause in every fighter's contract that

676
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: if you're at welterweight and you're coming off of a

677
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: title loss, that you're gonna fight Covington soon.

678
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you, Belall versus Covington,

679
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate.

680
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: That's like the perfect celeb get well fight in the sense.

681
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: And first of all, I think ballaal washes him, and

682
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: more to the point, it would actually be kind of

683
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: a fun grudge match also be you know, probably wild

684
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: they racist on the part of Globe, but one never knows.

685
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: I hope not.

686
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: I hope not.

687
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Before we talk about what is next for all of

688
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: these fighters, why don't we talk about what was then

689
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: and what is still going on right now? Yeah, look

690
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691
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692
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693
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694
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695
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696
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697
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698
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700
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Speaker 2: the blanco of the tequila of the quervo is my favorite.

701
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Speaker 2: When we when we pregame preview, as we just did

702
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: last week with Chuck Midten hall UFC three fifteen, I'm

703
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: already looking I'm already looking ahead to three sixteen. Steve

704
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: Austin stile. I mean, we'll get Steve Austin here to

705
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Speaker 2: drink this quervo. That's what I'm talking about.

706
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Speaker 1: Is that what he says? Hell? Yeah, brother, I don't know.

707
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: More or less, Okay, more or less on that regard,

708
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: but uh fired up. Let's get into topic number two

709
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 2: right now, and that is, of course, the whole uniqueness

710
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: about the main event of UFC three fifteen playing in theory,

711
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: or what we've been led to believe by Dana White's

712
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: sort of confirmation of this talk from when Mike Boone

713
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: asked the question at the pre fight press conference about

714
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: how much this will affect International Fight Week, which is, guys,

715
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: forty seven days away as we speak right now. So

716
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: are we getting JDM versus Islam?

717
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Next?

718
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: Are we getting Ilia versus Charlie Olives? And where the

719
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: hell was Dana White after this event? So this is

720
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: where we got an issue here, folks. Nothing is seemingly confirmed,

721
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: even though Dana White was the one who confirmed and

722
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: said that it all comes down to who wins JDM

723
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: or Muhammad. And then Dana exits stage left and we

724
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: get David Shaw International Relations, who says, yeah, like, I

725
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: can't comment on that stuff, guys, I don't know, so, Luke.

726
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: Following a rather unprecedented situation, as I mentioned right there,

727
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: with Dana White being a no show, what the hell

728
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: is going on at the moment? Is Dana White completely

729
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: checked out? Is he being phased out? How are we

730
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: supposed to interpret what happens next in these very big matchups,

731
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: including the Summer Showcase main event, and what happens next

732
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: for both Islam and and Ilia. Why did they not

733
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 2: come out and put that to rest on Saturday Night?

734
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: Partly, those deals still have to get signed. They probably

735
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: had verbal agreements rather than fully written, actualized ones, and

736
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: there is a degree of paperwork that's required before they

737
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: can commit to promotional assets. I think that's probably part

738
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: of it. But you're asking a bigger question. You're asking

739
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: about like why didn't Dana talk about this? I actually

740
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: hit up a bunch of reporters who are on press

741
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: road to get to get their sense of things, and

742
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: they had a lot of different things to say. Part

743
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: of it was, even when Dana is there nowadays, he

744
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: still doesn't say necessarily a ton I mean, he's not

745
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: like he's you know, hardcore advocating for certain kinds of

746
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: fights or you know, agitating for UFC causes.

747
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: More broadly, Hunter Campbell's doing the role that we all

748
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: typically ascribed to Dana White in reality, right, But he's

749
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: got to play a role in matchmaker.

750
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: Well here's the thing. Here's the thing. Hunter can do

751
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: all the contracts, and he's a smart guy. He's a

752
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: very capable guy. But he can do all the contracts,

753
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: he can do all of the things behind the scenes

754
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: to get fights made. But the UFC has always had

755
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: a bulldog promoting its brand, which was Dana. They've had

756
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: a bulldog, a guy who promoted in the media, a

757
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: guy who made aggressive the cause of MMA, you know,

758
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: during the Ultimate Fighter, and after that, a guy who

759
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: was advocate advocating for certain big fights and for MMA

760
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: to reach new heights. And now the brand doesn't have

761
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: a bulldog. It's got a very capable guy in Hunter Campbell.

762
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: This is not a question whatsoever about his competency or ability.

763
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: It's it speaks for itself. It's a question of somebody

764
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: being the brand's barking dog in everyone's face all the time,

765
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: and sometimes by the way, they can go too far.

766
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: But you can see what's happened they I think internally,

767
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: a few things have happened. One Daana has got a

768
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: lot of other things going on. He's got his own

769
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 3: personal power Slat project, which to me is a gigantic

770
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 3: waste of time, but it is a thing that he does.

771
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: Tk O boxing is certainly going to take over a

772
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: lot of his time Friday. He's got a whole lot

773
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: of stuff going on. So that's a big part of it.

774
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: But I think the other part is you've heard them

775
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 3: talk about they want to build UFC to a point

776
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: that it was self sufficient, and I don't think UFC

777
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: can ever act. I don't think hardly any brand can

778
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: actually be self sufficient. I don't think that's a real thing.

779
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: Framing it that way, to me is a mistake. Let me,

780
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: there's this point, if I may they what's missing is

781
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: there is somebody who is beating the drums, powering the

782
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 3: engine with aggression and passion and fury and focus. Yes,

783
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: Hunter Campbell's doing the job, but no one is pounding

784
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: their fist on the four mica and saying, let me

785
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: speak to the motherfucking manager. You're not getting that, And

786
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: I think that is the kind of thing you're missing.

787
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we would all love somebody who's delivering

788
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: the passion and what you would expect for this job.

789
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: In Dana again is one of the best. You know,

790
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: some people think the best to ever do it in

791
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: a long history of combat Carnival Barkers, who have done

792
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: this job very successfully, who who can compare with his resume.

793
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: But like, even more than you want somebody who can

794
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: do it so great, you also just want some information

795
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: dissemination and truth confirmed, even if it's confirmed in a

796
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: way in a used car salesman way where you're like, Okay,

797
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: I can see through what's really happening. Like I know

798
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: that it doesn't seem like the UFC cares about the

799
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: bad pr going lately when we're talking about matchmaking and

800
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: the whole direction of the company financially and all that stuff.

801
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: But I thought there was a big opportunity on Saturday,

802
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: considering this is a thing that was their fault that

803
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: they sort of created on themselves. If you're saying, what

804
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 2: is the thing the fact that it's forty seven days away,

805
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: we don't know the ifw main event is and we're

806
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: all kind of like, you can't make Jones and Aspiral,

807
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: can you make Ilia in Islam? Can you just make

808
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: something happen? And then they leave it up to chance

809
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: ultimately and say this fight will decide it. What about

810
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: the potential good PR if you just had this exciting

811
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: main event, you got this new champion. We know Ian

812
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: Gary wants to fight next, Chavkov probably got next. There's

813
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: three other guys who would raise their hand. Also, Islam

814
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: might parachute in based on what you said not having

815
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: someone to come out, and again, if it's not Dane,

816
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: if he's not even that guy anymore, then maybe Hunters

817
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 2: should step into that role and be that guy more

818
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: or maybe just armed David Shaw with the information that,

819
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: of course the media is going to ask about. Wouldn't

820
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: it be a great PR Slam dunk for them to

821
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: come out and be like the Waltzway Division has been

822
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: turned upside down, we got a new young champion. Oh

823
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: by the way the best fighter in the world is

824
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: ready to make them move up and later this fall

825
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be this guy versus this guy. Instead, it's

826
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: just we didn't show up.

827
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: Do you need to do that if you believe the

828
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: UFC is altly self sufficient?

829
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: I mean, it's people.

830
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: We're talking about the ticket sales.

831
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: They sold a six million dollar gate, which for a

832
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: pay per view is not super super or maybe it

833
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: was eight plus.

834
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: Right right around that. I forget if it was Canadian

835
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: or US not.

836
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: It's highest by any struts, but the highest in that

837
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: building for a non hockey event. I'm not saying to

838
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: you that there isn't real consternation about the state of

839
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: the product. I fully recognize. But again, people don't want

840
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: to have this conversation because they get all angry and

841
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: they're like, this is too much. But the effects of

842
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: monopoly are all encompassing and corrosive. And if you believe

843
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: that your product is ultimately self sufficient, what is it

844
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: you think you have to do after a pay per

845
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 3: view like this that just had a semi record against nothing, Right,

846
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: this is the problem. This is but this doesn't have

847
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: to feel the heat on your ass to get out

848
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: there and be able to go on there and say,

849
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 3: look what we got going on, Look how important it is.

850
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: Look what we're gonna have in store for you, and

851
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: with with verve and energy and fucking a. But if

852
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: you think if anything is self sufficient, why would you

853
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: do that?

854
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we could have come out of this show

855
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: as much as it's always going to be important to

856
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: recap the biggest fight from Saturday to kick off the show,

857
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: but if we were coming out guns blazing with it's

858
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: gonna be Ilia versus. Charles de Bronx said, ifw and

859
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: it's going to be uh JDM making his first defense

860
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: against Islam. And oh, by the way, how good was

861
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: that main event? Like you could like the thing, the

862
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: storyline would be all full guns blazed and excited, let's

863
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: spin it to the future. Debate Was that the right move?

864
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: All this stuff? And now we're sort of like, I

865
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: don't know what the next move is. It's just I

866
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: don't know. It's sort of I don't disagree with you,

867
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: like do your job in that regard, like get the

868
00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: people fired up?

869
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: What's your theory about why Daana? And but he did

870
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: this in London too, as I understand it, What is

871
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: your theory about why this is all happening.

872
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 6: Maybe, just maybe when Dana announced on Thursday that based

873
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 6: on the outcome of this fight, this fight will happened,

874
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 6: this fight will happened. Maybe now Islam's like holding for

875
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 6: like I need more money for this or something. Maybe

876
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 6: it's a negotiation tactic.

877
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: Who knows.

878
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 3: Okay, couldn't you come out and say, hey, weed, o't

879
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: weere eyeball on a couple of big ones for Islam,

880
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: but we gotta see what happens.

881
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: It's not unfair for me to criticize them for not

882
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: having their shit together when we're less than fifty days

883
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: out from the biggest centerpiece card.

884
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm not I hope you understand. I'm not suggesting any right.

885
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: So it's like that's really the onus of my ancher.

886
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: It's like, you have all the things in front of

887
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: you to dominate this industry, and you are, from a

888
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: financial standpoint, do the bare minimal of what we expect

889
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: for you to, like like build that hype in that bunch.

890
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Do you see their Q one earnings?

891
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: I didn't look into them that.

892
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're higher than they're I think they're up, Like

893
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: I think something like twelve or more percent relative to

894
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: Q one earnings of twenty twenty four. People keep talking

895
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: about how like, oh, if something doesn't happen and the

896
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 3: UFC is going to boy, it's gonna get real bad

897
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: for them and we're gonna see some real consequences. That

898
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: is true in a sense, but we are so fucking

899
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 3: far from that.

900
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: We're not even We're not even just.

901
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: Starting to feel like the exact thing that got me

902
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: out of the wrestling business at a time when booking

903
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: was so stale in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and I

904
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: felt like ww in Vincicmann was just really just leaning

905
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: on the backbones of the hardcore addicted fans who would

906
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: sit through anything to connect the dots from one pay

907
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: per view to another. The storyline just never made sense.

908
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: There wasn't and it felt like a disrespect to the

909
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: people that actually care about the show from that standpoint,

910
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: right that you're telling this larger soap opera angle and

911
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: all that. I feel like that's what's happening. We're losing

912
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: the recipes, Luke. I mean, I feel like that's what's

913
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 2: happening here. Because I want to talk about these fights.

914
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Let's let's see these two tweets from Islam Majeff because

915
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: I like, are we we're led to believe JDM one

916
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: now Islam's moving up and getting the next title shot. Correct,

917
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: We're led to Dana confirm that with that by saying yes.

918
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: At the press Cope said yes, I think that's yeah.

919
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: Once again, I want to point out pre fight, it

920
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: wasn't like he was saying a bunch of interesting things.

921
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: Either he's checked out, dude. I just can't figure out

922
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: if they have forced him out or if he's just

923
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: checked out. But here's Mahachev the first one time to

924
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: become a double champion, inshalla, let's go. And then the

925
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: second one aimed at JDM who who, at the end

926
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: of the post fight interview with Joe Rogan said let's

927
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: run it and let's do it for Vulk. You are

928
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: not Vulk. I will show you different level my belt

929
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: clean and I'm.

930
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Sorry Joe Rogan wasn't there, Cormier.

931
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: Cormier handled the interview, So did I miss something? No,

932
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: They're sorry. That was that was in Canada, So that

933
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: would lead you to believe there that that is next.

934
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: Cameras seemed to catch the tail end of Jack Della

935
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: Madelena's speakerphone with Hunter and Dana. That says a little

936
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: bit about the future.

937
00:41:51,920 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 12: Let's listen nextra in Hue White Well.

938
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: I guess it didn't confirm anything there, but do you

939
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: think that that's where we're headed potentially Perth because he's

940
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: the hometown boy and against.

941
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: My just no fucking way they're going to make Markachev

942
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: fight in Perth.

943
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: I mean they didn't bite on it when he threw

944
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: the bait out.

945
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Not going to have is that?

946
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: Are you confident that that is where they're going next?

947
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: Because they do have a few different sexy options. So

948
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: which way are they going?

949
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: Yes, it seems to me that the likeliest option is

950
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: Markeatchev versus JDM, Which can we just say for a

951
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: moment put the billy aching aside?

952
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: What a great fight.

953
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: I love that fight.

954
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: This is what This is the debate we were having

955
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: on the pregame preview for this past week, which was

956
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: the single best fight you can make an m m

957
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: A is islam Ilia. Yes, that's the single best one.

958
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: We we lose that or at a bare minimum, listen,

959
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: he could go fight JDM and get knocked out and

960
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: maybe he goes back to fifty five. That's a possibility,

961
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: but it seems like for a minute, at a bare minimum,

962
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: it's on the back burner. However, we now have Islam

963
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 3: in this new potential universe at one seventy I don't

964
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: know how long he'll stay around. If he wins a

965
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: title at seventy BC, he might win it and call

966
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: it a day.

967
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: Or move up to middlewight.

968
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: No, I don't think I'll do that, but you get

969
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: the idea, you know, you have a new range of possibilities.

970
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: This is what I mean.

971
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: He's making an already great division much more exciting in

972
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 3: the process, and I do think that's something that fans

973
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: should be excited for and celebrate. For me personally, JDM

974
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: versus Islam is a it's some sense top tier fight.

975
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's too absolutely hungry, top elite alpha studs.

976
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: And even though Islam has on paper a lot of

977
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: you know, a lot better of a well rounded game

978
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: of more skills, it's the adaptation of moving up and wide.

979
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: It's facing this absolutely hungry guy that's willing to go

980
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: through hell to win these fights. Yeah, that's a great fight.

981
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm not fully I've always been for Islam Ilia,

982
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: because it's just so big, it's so wonderful. Just cash

983
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: you in. You make it two or three of them

984
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: if you're lucky, just cash it in one time. But

985
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: the argument against it probably always was that you can

986
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: get two of a good thing instead of one. You

987
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: can get JDM versus Islam next, and then Ilia versus

988
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera at ifw for the vacant title. Both of

989
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: those scream entertainment, scream that it would teach us a lot.

990
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: Do you think, though, if that's the direction we're headed,

991
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: and we've got more video to prove that, it seems

992
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: like it is. Do we have we missed the window?

993
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Will we have missed the window? In your eyes? For

994
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: good on Islam versus Ilia in the same way. Although

995
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 2: I don't hold it against them that you EUFC had

996
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: a minute with that gsp and orson Silva window.

997
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: And then much more than a minute.

998
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: They had a few minutes. But my point is I

999
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: was never like holding it against them that it didn't happen.

1000
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: It probably should have happened, but that's fine. Is this

1001
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: the end of this talk Ilia in Islam? That is

1002
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: probably this was.

1003
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: The he wins at one seventy in his next fight Islam,

1004
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: it's over.

1005
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1006
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: Could you see, though, could you see Ilia who's been

1007
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: following a McGregor like almost pre written plan, from the

1008
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: tattoos to the pronouncements. If he beats still Bronx with

1009
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: a vacant title, couldn't you see him without a shadow

1010
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: of a doubt going mahchev after you win that uh,

1011
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 2: after you win that welterweight title, I'll see you there.

1012
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: Also, he would have to he would have to pulverize Oliver.

1013
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 3: You would have to absolutely battle.

1014
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: Or just stop him if he stops him. That's a statement.

1015
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: I don't think stop it is enough. I think you

1016
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: got to go in there and like destroy him.

1017
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 7: Long.

1018
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: Look, that's the direction, these these impromptu opportunistic planners like

1019
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: like it, like Ilia ultimately is. Of course he'd be

1020
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: calling out of Islam right away. That's McGregor type shit.

1021
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think any stoppage you could call him out.

1022
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: That's wild.

1023
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: So maybe maybe I'm not talking about that. I'm saying

1024
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 3: what can you actually do to convince UFC to think

1025
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: about making it and just stopping him as insufficient?

1026
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 6: I want to say, also, though, I don't think like

1027
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 6: Ilia moving up to seventy. I don't see. I think

1028
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 6: more like Ilia wins, convinces Islam come back, oh, come

1029
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 6: back down.

1030
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: Then that's a huge, huge, huge fight. Let's hear from

1031
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: Jack Della, who's into the idea.

1032
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 13: Islam's already tweeted at you a few times and like

1033
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 13: the most recent one, and he says, you're not vulcal.

1034
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 13: I'll show you there at different levels. Keep my belt clean.

1035
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 13: Do you have any responts toay Islam?

1036
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 9: I know, come get it, come get it.

1037
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: Oh shit, oh shit.

1038
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: By the way, here's my point. How fast did Islam

1039
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: beat olivera like a round and a half? Write something

1040
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 3: like that. This is what I mean. What if Islam

1041
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: excuse me, what if Ilia goes in there and beats

1042
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: olivera quick quicker than that? Well, now you have an argument.

1043
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: It's like, look how long it took Islam. And by

1044
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: the way, that was like a one sided fight for Islam.

1045
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: I mean that was that was relatively easy for him.

1046
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: What if Ilia has an even easier time? Now, that

1047
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: to me, that is a scenario where he can be like,

1048
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: I get it.

1049
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: Whatever Islam is, I'm better.

1050
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: But the line is long at Welterwait, should Islam go

1051
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: in there and win it right away? What about the

1052
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: hypocrisy of this wasn't Islam? And I damn I don't

1053
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: want to like chair against him all I loved like,

1054
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I really love that guy as a fighter.

1055
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: He's one of the best of all time, Luke. But

1056
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: him saying that Ilia would have to come up and

1057
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: prove first. Isn't that the same argument that could be

1058
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: said about Islam moving up and getting a title shot in.

1059
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this, I smighter say a lot of

1060
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: shit all the time, and half of it is nonsensical

1061
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: and or hypocritical.

1062
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you.

1063
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: So that's the beginning and end of that conference.

1064
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well let's go to I Gary, who

1065
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: believes that he should be in this spot and is

1066
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: ready to touch him this week. Yeah, he's ready to

1067
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: cut in line if given the opportunity.

1068
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 11: You've got the new champion, Jack Delamdelana the Asi, great performance,

1069
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 11: but sloppy. The rumor is Islam makishev is moving up

1070
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 11: to one seventy and if he does, then all of us,

1071
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 11: well the Waights have to take a step back and

1072
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 11: give the man the respect he deserves. But if negotiations

1073
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 11: don't go so well, then you've got a tall, blonde

1074
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 11: irishman who's ready to take over to the UFC and

1075
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 11: get that belt, and I will smoke Jack down Madeleanta

1076
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 11: Bucks the years oft.

1077
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: You know, lyle Knuk and I were talking earlier.

1078
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Gary is good, but I can't I just

1079
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: can't take that seriously.

1080
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: I'm just like, but that would be a great fight.

1081
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: Oh, it'd be a great fight. But he's like, JDM

1082
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: looked sloppy.

1083
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: JDM looked awesome.

1084
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked fucking awesome. What are you talking about?

1085
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: But what he's talking about is he has a way

1086
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: of neutralizing people's He does best best practices offensively, and

1087
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: he knows that he might be the toughest style matchup

1088
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: outside of a wrestler.

1089
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: He could not boxing jdm's ears off.

1090
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: Let me be very but he'll but he'll slow down.

1091
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: What JDM does well, make it a close chess match.

1092
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: He has the ability to win these close tests.

1093
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, Ian Gary.

1094
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: He's in that list with the Buckleys and the chof

1095
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 3: Cotts and you know everybody else. He's he is firmly

1096
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: entrenched in that part of the conversation, and therefore any

1097
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: of those permutations are great, although as we discussed pre show,

1098
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: I think the best one for Ian Gary would be

1099
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: Sean Brady. Sean Brady Ian Gary to me is the

1100
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: one that.

1101
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: Is that's probably what would happen next if Islam gets

1102
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: the yes.

1103
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: If Islam gets it, we actually have to kind of

1104
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: think about that because shof Got's waiting in the wings,

1105
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: but Brady's waiting in the wing.

1106
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 2: And there's Buckley Ustman, which may or may not factor

1107
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: into this.

1108
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: For the UFC Atlantic car that's the headliner there. But

1109
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: I think Buckley's going to wash him and so he's

1110
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: going to now and be in that space. So there's

1111
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 3: a couple of ways that could go when Islam does

1112
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: make his move to one seventy eventually, and again if

1113
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 3: it ends up being JDM Gary, I'm all in favor

1114
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: of it, but him being.

1115
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: Like he looked sloppy.

1116
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: I realize, I get it, it's promotional material, I understand,

1117
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: but it's laughable.

1118
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I just you know, go on, all right.

1119
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: The flip side of this is Elia at ifw against

1120
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera. We didn't talk about what happened to our

1121
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: Montsieur so rookie in the last week and a half,

1122
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: where people are claiming that the UFC trapped him by

1123
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: offering him a UFC Dubai main event against Who Is

1124
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: a Camera, which he then turned down, saying no, I'm

1125
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: ready for a title I deserve a title shot, and

1126
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: then that was their way of getting him out of

1127
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: the way and bringing in Olavera. I don't know if

1128
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: I believe in that, but was that a wrong strategic

1129
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 2: strategical decision or the right one Because Armand's going to wait.

1130
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: For his up arman can wait a little. I actually

1131
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: feel we didn't really discuss it with the last topic BC.

1132
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: But in general, fighters are going to say that, and correctly,

1133
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: I think that more regular competition would be better for

1134
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: their overall ability. But there can also be cases where

1135
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: competing too much at certain times in your career doesn't

1136
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: give you what you need to really round out. This

1137
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: is the kind of conversation we're having I am having

1138
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: anyway about Ian Gary. I'm not declaring that's what's going

1139
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: to happen to him, but I'm a little bit concerned

1140
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: based on what I see. Plenty of ability, but can

1141
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: he really maximize that if you're just constantly taking these

1142
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: short note fights all the time. Right, But Dayla Matta

1143
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: Landa did something a little bit different. He took Now,

1144
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: he obviously had an injury part of it, but he

1145
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: took fourteen months off. Look at how much he leveled

1146
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: up in that process. So the point I'm trying to

1147
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: make about sar Yukian is, dude, you will see it, Okay,

1148
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: don't take the gam not fight because we don't need

1149
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 3: to see what we already did. It was a good fight.

1150
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: But he's in another place. But if I'm in sar

1151
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: Yukiin's camp, i am telling him, if you want to

1152
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 3: get good enough to beat the people who hold the belt,

1153
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: taking a little bit of time off actually here is

1154
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: exactly what he needs to be doing, all right, quickly.

1155
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: Before we hit the rest of UFC three fifteen. How

1156
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: this applies further on down the line is does this

1157
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: mean to Pooria against Doe Bronx would be the main

1158
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: event in your eyes? Because there are there was the

1159
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: whole Poton situation with the I was hacked, which none

1160
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: of us believe in DC came aggressively and now you've

1161
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: got ankle Iave, whether it's him tweeting or Ali basically

1162
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: saying that if Poton doesn't want it at I FW

1163
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: like they're willing to take on whomever, and.

1164
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: He'll give what Alberg I don't know, probably right, I

1165
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: guess that would be Alberg beat yond and so that's

1166
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: kind of where we're at.

1167
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: So that would be the Comaine.

1168
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: You could do.

1169
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: Komain with that when you could still by the way,

1170
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: you could I mean, I don't know, I don't know

1171
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: if they could make it work, but could you do

1172
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: aspenall gone Comaine?

1173
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: Are we really going to do Aspa?

1174
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm asking for the I'm asking.

1175
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: I think I personally believe that if they do that,

1176
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 2: it'll be some point of no return for some people.

1177
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: That's like, all right, fuck it, I can't watch this

1178
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: stuff anymore if you can't make it. If you can't

1179
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: you know, and if you just to be like so

1180
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: radioactive kind of like it because it's building. It was

1181
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 2: the UFC London card all those fans you know, turned

1182
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: away and didn't buy tickets. It's like we've been building incrementally,

1183
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: all these little turns where people are like, man, that's

1184
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: fucked up. This isn't the UFC from the pandemic. This

1185
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: isn't my UFC from twenty sixteen whatever. I feel like

1186
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: that is an ultimate sign of you have become boxing

1187
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 2: as you're trying to get into boxing while you're telling

1188
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: everybody that boxing sucks.

1189
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're getting a guy defending his

1190
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: interim title. I've said this before. I've only seen a

1191
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 3: guy in boxing defend an interim title. Sorry, I've only

1192
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: seen an interim title defended four times in boxing.

1193
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: It was Julio Rs years and years ago. But we're

1194
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: not far from that.

1195
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, boxing puts out interim titles now all the time,

1196
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: just so it looks like it's a title fight on TV.

1197
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: There was a interim secondary title on that Ryan Garcia

1198
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: ro Romero fight. All really means is the winner is

1199
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: going to be a number one contender for I mean,

1200
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: it's all bullshit, but that's where we're at with that.

1201
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough.

1202
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Topic number three shifts of to

1234
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: the Comin event and three p. Fifteen's feature of the

1235
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: women's flyweight division offering in a lot of cases the

1236
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 2: best that it has to offer, or was it considered

1237
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: the best. Let's get into that because Valentina shift Jenco

1238
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: edged out Manon Farrow in a close five round decision

1239
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: to defend the title at age thirty seven, on the

1240
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: same night that Natalia Silva and Jasmin Jazzdavisius scored breakthrough

1241
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: wins to push them even closer to that title. So, Luke,

1242
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: this may this comin event, it was are from the

1243
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: most exciting title bout in recent memory of your free

1244
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1245
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: It was your favorite fight.

1246
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: Uh see. I was frustrated because you know this talk

1247
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 2: right now about women's MMA being down, and you got

1248
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people aggressively saying we should have shot

1249
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: it down and get it off of pay per view

1250
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: main cards this matchup. I was fired up for a

1251
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: lot of them, all three matchups on Flyway, and I

1252
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: was entertained to a great degree. But I get when

1253
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: you watch a very close chess match like this, not

1254
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: everybody was. So I was kind of down after this,

1255
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: and considering that this was the way it played out

1256
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: kind of only adds to the fuel of those stereotypes

1257
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: that I mentioned. It is a little bit disappointing, but

1258
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: Chefchenko relied upon that veteran ability to make those championship

1259
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: adjustments and narrowly out point Pharroh. Did the judges get

1260
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: it right in the end? In your eyes, Luke, is

1261
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: there a case here on the other side for Pharroh?

1262
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: And does this aggressively push Chefchenko further into that living legend,

1263
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: maybe getting closer to the potential women's mm A goat chip.

1264
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 2: How big was this win in that regard? In how'd

1265
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: you score it?

1266
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: In some ways this will be a forgettable win because

1267
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: Firo is simply not a noteworthy figure in the sport.

1268
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: She's not really even a noteworthy figure in within women's

1269
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 3: in mima other than for the fact that she, you know,

1270
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: did well to get here as a number one contender.

1271
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: Like the ads makers favored her fair enough.

1272
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 3: If there were some concerns about Chifchenko because of what

1273
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: kind of performances Grosso had been turning in. And again,

1274
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 3: she's closer to forty than she is thirty, you know.

1275
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: To me, this fight was pretty terrible, but not the

1276
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: worst thing I've ever seen. Here's what I'll say. Fierroro

1277
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: did what she could with the skill set that she has.

1278
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: I was a little surprised by this. I thought she'd

1279
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 3: have a little bit more success, but she didn't. To

1280
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: her credit. She got lit up and she got torched

1281
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: in round one and then came back out with that

1282
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 3: lancing jab that she used to then clinch, and I

1283
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: thought that that was not a spectacular way to fight.

1284
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: But she was just trying to find anything she could get,

1285
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 3: you know, drowning in the water, trying to find anything

1286
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: she could hold onto. And she climbed her way out

1287
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: of that one a little bit, so she did make

1288
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: it close down the.

1289
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: Scratch us her size. I got to give her that crut.

1290
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again she was pretty strong. I thought that

1291
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting as well.

1292
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: Can we show the scorecards here? I scored it three

1293
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: to two, giving Farrow both the second and third. I

1294
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 2: thought Valentina rallied a round four, she dropped Farroh late

1295
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: with that stiff jab to claim that, so I had

1296
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: it to two going into the fifth. I gave the

1297
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: fifth to Chevchenko. What I really want to know is

1298
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 2: how'd you score? And is there an argument to give

1299
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: that fifth to Faro's And she had a lot of

1300
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: success in the clinch, although her strike I guess overall

1301
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: wasn't as clean in that round, But it didn't feel

1302
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: like a round five where they both were fighting with

1303
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: desperation either.

1304
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I you know, I think both had

1305
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: the most amount of volume that they each had in

1306
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: that round, so they were both kind of trying to

1307
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 3: put it on the other one. To me, though, it's

1308
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: like a question of like Farrow was able to make

1309
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: it close in round. She was able to like land

1310
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: you know, busy shots and keep it working and you know,

1311
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: find a way to just kind of scratch and claw.

1312
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: But even if she.

1313
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: Had won, would have been disappointed.

1314
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: I've been disappointing because she was not the better fighter. No,

1315
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: the better fighter was Valentina.

1316
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: Ship she let you down, not personally, but like in

1317
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: the esteem that you put in her stock, seeing her

1318
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: as a betting favorite, knowing what she did to Blanchefield

1319
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: to completely neutralize her. Although I said, coming in Blanchefield

1320
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: doesn't move herhead, Chefchenko does. It could be a different

1321
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: game for sure. But the adjustments for Roh made physically

1322
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: after getting beaten up round one and looked like she

1323
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: was on the way out, Yeah, like there's some there's

1324
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: some Elite championship backbone in there. But were you let

1325
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: down in totality that she couldn't out out chest the

1326
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: chess matches?

1327
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically that you saw the full I mean again,

1328
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give her a ton of credit. She got

1329
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: beat up real badly in the first round. I think

1330
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: her nose was broken because she kept wincing on every highlight.

1331
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: So she must have been an agonizing pain for the

1332
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: rest of those four rounds we see, and that could

1333
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: not be easy to do by any stretch. But I

1334
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: also felt like we got a clear look at her

1335
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: game and once she didn't really she had a bit

1336
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: of a B game to go to. The A game

1337
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 3: she wanted got taken away, so she went to the

1338
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: B game and the b game got her close, but

1339
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 3: it just wasn't offensively dynamic like the person who was

1340
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: offensively dynamic in this fight with Shivchenko, and frankly, the

1341
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 3: person who was defensively dynamic because she could turn defense

1342
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 3: into offense was Valentina Shifchenko. I didn't come away necessarily

1343
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: having a massive stock drop in fireau. It certainly dropped

1344
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 3: to a degree, but honestly, I can just admit it.

1345
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: I slept on Valentina Shivchenko a little bit here. I thought,

1346
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: obviously she's done amazing things, but I thought, okay, well

1347
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: that's coming to a close. And what I will say

1348
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: is a performance like this where a contender can clearly

1349
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: be a bit of a lesser then and still make

1350
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: it close, tells you that there is some parody now

1351
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: between her and that division in ways that maybe didn't

1352
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: exist before. But at the same time, she is talented

1353
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 3: and crafty as shit. She had a good game plan,

1354
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: her athleticism is still very, very serviceable, and.

1355
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: Dude, she knows what she's doing.

1356
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: The takeaway here, like in the main event, the takeaway

1357
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: sometimes you can really point to theerson who loses and

1358
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 3: you could be like, you fucked this up. But in

1359
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: the main event, I'm mostly gonna say j DM rose

1360
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: and in this comin event, I'm going to say Valentina

1361
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 3: set the bar high, and Thiaux just could.

1362
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: Just fear that if this was the best of what

1363
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: the deepest division in the sport offers, I mean, it

1364
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: wasn't the best in terms of excitement because for Valentina

1365
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: to win it this way, she had to kind of

1366
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: really not hold the ball but make it a very

1367
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: you know, tight margin of error for both In the

1368
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: chess match, I just feel like it pushed.

1369
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: You'd say, what you think you've thought this? You texted

1370
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: me during this fight and you were not happy with

1371
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 3: the way it was going.

1372
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I felt like this, I felt like this

1373
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: negatively played into people's stereotypes of if this is the

1374
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: very peak of elite women's MMA, then that's yeah, dude,

1375
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: at least that's limited to me. When it didn't, I

1376
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: guess maybe there used to be a lot more fire.

1377
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: I felt like, here's the reality. There are a lot

1378
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: of people inside of MMA who have terrible relationships with

1379
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: women and their mothers, and they don't realize it, or

1380
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 3: maybe they halfway do, but they use it as a.

1381
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: Well just more exciting.

1382
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, let's back up a step.

1383
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people in the sport who

1384
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: have terrible relationships with women, terrible negative attitudes. Here's my point,

1385
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: and it's very hard to understand where that begins, and

1386
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: legitimate criticism of a flagging side of the sport ends

1387
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: it can it can get lost. But what I can

1388
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: really say is, for people who've paid attention to women's MMA,

1389
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: it was in a very terrible place when they were

1390
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 3: doing three minute rounds on CBS.

1391
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, and it got really good, but.

1392
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 3: It is clearly declined since the high water mark of

1393
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: what would you say, fifteen or sixteen something like that.

1394
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: So I don't even push it further into the Rose

1395
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: Versus Yoana series. It was still out of very even

1396
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: the early Whaley run with maybe through the Yoana Whaley

1397
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: won in twenty twenty, right before the pen.

1398
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: I just remember, I always bring this fight up because

1399
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 3: it wasn't for a title, but like when Mishitate fought

1400
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: kats and Ghana, when it was a brutal ass fight,

1401
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 3: she finished her off with knees yes, and I remember

1402
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, this is why women's MMA succeeds where

1403
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 3: women's boxing doesn't because the action they can deliver closely

1404
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: matches the men's game. And now there has been a

1405
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: major bifurcation between the men and the women.

1406
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: Wow, well impressed by it.

1407
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: Okay, whatever, there's been a split.

1408
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: Whatevery woman is saying Bifurcation's fine, Yeah, there's been a bifurcation.

1409
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: And so now you're just getting to a place where now,

1410
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 3: in fairness to the women's game, there were two other

1411
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 3: women's flyweight fights on this card.

1412
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 2: And we're gonna get to them.

1413
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: Both of them were pretty great.

1414
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: Let's get to the extending resume of the great Valentina Hchenko,

1415
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: who extended her women's record in UFC history for most

1416
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: wins and title fights to ten. This was her eighth

1417
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: total defense of her women's flyweight title. But if you

1418
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: look at that, the faces on that resume that she's

1419
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: defeated across two divisions, now Holly Holm, Julianna Pana Yo,

1420
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: Wanna Young Jcheck, Jessica andraje who's that, uh, Alexa Grasso,

1421
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: and then now Monon Faro. Everyone book Farroh is a

1422
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: former champion and she has eight title defenses in this division.

1423
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: And she's been on top long enough that she was

1424
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: there in the beginning when there was no one to

1425
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: fight her, and she's been through the rise of others

1426
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: and she's still standing. You gotta give it, you gotta go,

1427
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: you gotta give up, give it up for that.

1428
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 1: She's special, dude.

1429
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: And again, we all knew she was special, but I

1430
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 3: kind of thought that was coming to a close, and

1431
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: it just she's still got it, dude.

1432
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: The question still got next for Chevchenko? Should it be

1433
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: Waaley moving up into a super fight or should it

1434
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: be Natalia's Silva will break down Natalia's fight in a second.

1435
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: But here's what Chefchenko thinks.

1436
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: I have to ask.

1437
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 13: Whaley's already sent her message out to you, she says,

1438
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 13: she said, congratulations, and then everything's lined up and then

1439
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 13: it's destiny that you two face. So I guess is

1440
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 13: that in fight you'd be interested in? Do you have

1441
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 13: a response for Whaley?

1442
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 14: Oh? Now, I like coming before coming to his to

1443
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 14: hear so everyone was saying, like Waley or Natalia? Uh

1444
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 14: like and as a contender, So yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

1445
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 14: I just like maybe fans can play some role in

1446
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 14: that and if they can like join my only fan

1447
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 14: page and drop some messages who they want to see

1448
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 14: me fight next? So I think it's gonna be we

1449
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 14: will compare who's next.

1450
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: What's best for your legacy would really mean a little

1451
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 2: more to you?

1452
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 14: Probably, yes, and considering like all that title defense that

1453
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 14: I already have in fly weight and yeah, but you know,

1454
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 14: it's kind of like for me now after the fight

1455
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 14: you got a victory, your belt is with you. It's

1456
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 14: so much like you have this still adrenaline running and

1457
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 14: everything like that. And to answer exact question, I would.

1458
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: Sorry to cut her off there, but continue You're like,

1459
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: I don't need to hear your yeah, but look, she

1460
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: wants the fans to vote on her only fans of

1461
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: who she should fight next. What's fortunately, I don't know,

1462
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: But unfortunately I feel like people are going to vote.

1463
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 2: You could for themselves of the opponent, or vote to

1464
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: shut down Women's MMA entirely, I hope not. Seriously, though,

1465
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: resume wise and big fight wise, you gotta pick away

1466
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: Lee who would you rather see as a fan? Though

1467
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: considering Natalia Silva, who I said, the fact that she's

1468
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: not a big slugger, the fact that she's not a finisher,

1469
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: would be an issue maybe in this Grosso fight, and

1470
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: she just implemented her plan a beautifully in dissecting the

1471
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,959
Speaker 2: former champion Grosso. Who should be next?

1472
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: For me, I'll tell you I'm not super high on

1473
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: the Jong Wi Lee fight. Why all right?

1474
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: Because you hate women or no, that's not.

1475
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: That's a problem that some of you other donks need

1476
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: to go to therapy for. Oh some of us.

1477
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: I already did my time in therapy to get over

1478
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 3: my issues. Jong Wi Lee is obviously really good and

1479
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 3: in terms of pure talent would be far into way

1480
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 3: the best opponent that Schevchenko could get. Here's where I

1481
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: tell me if I'm missing something. Chefchenko and Jean Wi

1482
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 3: Lee technically are ten pounds apart, right, But Chefchenko, if

1483
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: it wasn't.

1484
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: For Nonez, would have been a champion.

1485
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 3: Up there at thirty five, and by the way, you

1486
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: can make an argument, should have been anyway.

1487
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, So we've.

1488
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: Got someone at twenty five who can cut down to

1489
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: twenty five, but is just as competitive basically at thirty five.

1490
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 3: Especially now, if she went to thirty five, I think

1491
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: she'd take the title. I don't think anyone will really, Yeah, yeah,

1492
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't think Kayla would be her.

1493
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: That's the most exciting turn of events for women's in

1494
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: May if that happened.

1495
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: Right Whereas Joang Wailie, I think can go up to

1496
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 3: twenty five. But if you're dealing with somebody who's competitive,

1497
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: very competitive, championship level competitive at thirty five, is she undersized?

1498
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: Is there something to that?

1499
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: There might be, But until we talk about her moving

1500
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: up to thirty five, she's got to clean out the

1501
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: remaining big names, and there is there's a list of

1502
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: competitive names coming up, and I think if you add

1503
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: way lead to that, if she's going to move up

1504
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: full time, then you would kind of want to get

1505
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: through that first.

1506
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about that idea?

1507
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a.

1508
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 6: Fair point that like Chevchenko would have the size advantage.

1509
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 6: But I want to disagree with you on the Kaila thing. Man,

1510
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 6: I think Kayla Chevy. I don't want to say I

1511
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 6: think Kayla wins, but I kind of think I favor Kayla.

1512
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: Let me be honest, I like Kayla Chevy more than

1513
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 3: I like Chevy Jong Wilee.

1514
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: I agree with that because I think.

1515
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: We already know that like that she's the better technical

1516
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: fighter and she's going to be the bigger one, so

1517
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: there's a great chance she's going to be able to

1518
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: dissect her in a somewhat boring way like we.

1519
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: Just saw potentially, or she could just wrestle Jeong Wilee

1520
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: for you know, two or three rounds and then the

1521
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 3: rest of it just kind of happened keep away, whereas

1522
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 3: with Kayla, Kayla's got real deficiencies relative to shift Chenko

1523
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: on the feet, but the hands get together and now

1524
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 3: we've got a different ball game going on. So to me,

1525
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 3: that's kind of an interesting fight. It is, but I

1526
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: recognize pure talent Jong Wi Lee is the best opponent

1527
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 3: for her far and away.

1528
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: Shouldn't Italia Silva have to take another fight after this

1529
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: victory over the former champion in Grosso, because dude, her

1530
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: movement and her footworks, plant strategies, and her in her

1531
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 2: ability to not linger in the pocket to get lit

1532
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: up with big shots, like if you rush her like

1533
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: Grosso did a few times, you can clip her. But Luke,

1534
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: she's she's firing back offense in the midst of that,

1535
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: and she makes you chase throughout. Okay, I always feel

1536
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: like someone with big power is going to discipline that

1537
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: style out of her. But I'm not sure if there's

1538
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: anybody left with super big power that's of the elite

1539
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: status that will do.

1540
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me.

1541
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 3: We're talking about like all the things that ballall apparently

1542
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 3: just elected to not do against you know, a ridiculously

1543
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: talented opponent, and I don't hear anybody talking about the

1544
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 3: fact that Grosso can't effectively cage cut at this stage

1545
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 3: in her career.

1546
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: Now, granted it wasn't.

1547
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 3: Something she could have done, I guess and chose not to,

1548
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 3: but to be that skillfully deficient at this stage in

1549
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: your career is one billion percent unforgivable.

1550
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,879
Speaker 2: So you think, are you saying that she made Silva

1551
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: look like a star because I saw people going, I

1552
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: think Silva can run circles around Valentine and I'm like, let's.

1553
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: Say, so, here's the thing. Here's the thing.

1554
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 3: No, I don't know about that either. She got she

1555
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 3: does have fast feet in fast hands, like that's real.

1556
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 3: She uses that full space very effectively. My point is

1557
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: Silva used footwork in lateral movement very very effectively in

1558
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 3: that fight. People were saying, she's running, You're an idiot,

1559
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: She's not. Okay, if you're the one scoring more and

1560
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: moving more, then the other person is doing something wrong.

1561
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: My point is.

1562
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 3: There is supposed to be a corresponding response from Grosso

1563
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 3: to cut her off, and we never got it, So

1564
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 3: we don't know what other answer Silva may have been

1565
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 3: forced to use, and whether she could or couldn't have.

1566
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 3: There's just a series of unanswered questions. Rosso, a former

1567
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,799
Speaker 3: champion in the middle of her prime, watching an opponent

1568
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 3: just walk around the cage and you're not effectively pressuring

1569
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 3: and cutting her off.

1570
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: And this is why she got cut up.

1571
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: She got banged up, she.

1572
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 3: Got super banged up, and this is the part of that.

1573
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 3: You know again, Doe, DC, and and and Cruise I

1574
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: think are very very good commentators. But they said one

1575
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 3: thing during the that fight which also makes me kind

1576
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 3: of question about some of the blaw analysis. When you're like, well,

1577
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 3: why is it was? At Cruise, it was just DC like,

1578
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 3: why is he shooting morning again? The ball should have

1579
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: shot more potentially, But what they said in the fight

1580
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 3: with Silva is oh, Grosso needs to make it ugly

1581
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 3: and whatnot. I'm like, I don't think that's necessarily wrong.

1582
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 3: But the one sequence where they brought it up was

1583
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 3: where Silva's back is up against the fence and now

1584
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,440
Speaker 3: Grosso can get close to her. The two most important

1585
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: distances from fighter X to Fighter why. That's one, and

1586
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 3: then from Fighter why to the cage. Those are the

1587
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: two things you have to solve for. If you cannot

1588
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 3: solve for at least one of them, but ideally two

1589
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 3: of them, you cannot win in modern mma. But B

1590
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: see in that sequence, Yeah, if Silva is not moving

1591
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: and now you can get closer to her, as a consequence,

1592
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 3: she's gonna be more hit able. It's not about making

1593
01:10:54,160 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: it uglier. It was about solving distance problems. Yeah, that's

1594
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 3: that's the issue.

1595
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: And I don't think that you know, you can play

1596
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: up any any narratives that Silva can't do damage when

1597
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 2: you look at the damage she did over three rounds

1598
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,839
Speaker 2: to Grosso right there. I mean that striking is crisp

1599
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: and clear, and she has got a kick, not just

1600
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: a kicking game, a variety to the kicking game.

1601
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 3: So if you're William's school and you're just touching and

1602
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 3: not doing fucking all, it's one thing. If you're landing

1603
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 3: the more damaging strikes and moving your opponent's job is

1604
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 3: to limit your movement. She didn't even fucking try, not

1605
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 3: well anyway, just a totally bad effort at it. I

1606
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 3: don't normally say that, but like, dude, how can someone

1607
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 3: be thirty one, a former champion and you cannot effectively

1608
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 3: cage cut an opponent at this stage of your career.

1609
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 1: It's not forgivable. It's not forgivable.

1610
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: Long Island Luke be honest and Silva beat Chefchenko.

1611
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: I think she can.

1612
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, wow, she's young too, right, How old is she?

1613
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: She's like twenty seven? But would that be one of

1614
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: those situations where it would be a slow, boring fight,

1615
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: but she would be the one who's more active and

1616
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 2: you'd be judging her her leaping in and spamming against

1617
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: Chefchenko's bigger counters.

1618
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: Well, that's what that's what Fierro was strong.

1619
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: Or can Chefchenko wrestle her?

1620
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 3: I think Chefchenko can wrestle her, although Silva has very

1621
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 3: good takedown defense. That's one thing I would say. But

1622
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 3: you know this is the other part too. First of all,

1623
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 3: I think Schefchenko if she wants to cut her and

1624
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: cage cutter. But more to the point, I think Schefchenko

1625
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 3: might accept that pressure. That's what you saw in this

1626
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 3: fight too. She likes accepting aggression and then getting head off.

1627
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: And then, you know what, it wouldn't be in that

1628
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 3: particular respect, It wouldn't be too dissimilar from the Manan

1629
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 3: Fierro fight where she's accepting Fierro who's coming in Ramrod

1630
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 3: straight for the at least early on, and then getting

1631
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: clipped for it.

1632
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: So you know. The one thing I will say, though, is.

1633
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: I think Silva is much more explosive and quicker than Fierro,

1634
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 3: and so her ability to like explode into distance might

1635
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 3: be more of a threat to Chevchenko than Buro.

1636
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 2: That's a fair point, Jasmine Jazz Dvissius. You gotta give

1637
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 2: her credit. I mean, she's climbing fu question.

1638
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: Let me ask a question. I have to ask it.

1639
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 2: Put her down and subbed her in the first round

1640
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: within like it felt like.

1641
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 1: That, I have to ask, is androge okay? Like here's

1642
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1643
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: I don't want to take away from Jasmine at all,

1644
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 3: but I just don't know what the hell's going on

1645
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: with you.

1646
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: Kind of just par for the course, Like I've counted

1647
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: her out big time, like three four fights ago, and

1648
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 2: then she comes out knocks out Mackenzie Dern like it.

1649
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: She can. If you're vulnerable to her power, she's willing

1650
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: to take your your the violence that you put on

1651
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: her to continue to stalk you through the whole fight.

1652
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: And that goes back by the way to her fighting

1653
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: YO wanna for the title back in the day. So

1654
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: she's definitely a second or third tier version of her

1655
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: peak self. But there's even with the depth at one

1656
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: twenty five, there's just a huge group of that of

1657
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 2: those fighters in contention that she can still break down

1658
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 2: and get a knockout on just for having that big

1659
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: time power. But if you have size, if you have

1660
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: a specific dominant skill to counter that, particularly on the ground,

1661
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 2: she gets swallowed up. And that's what's happened in all

1662
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: of her elite losses, you know, in succession. Well, actually

1663
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: recently she's getting stopped even more.

1664
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 3: I'll say this, whatever the reason, you can just look

1665
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 3: at the tape and Jasmine looked phenomenal. She was not afraid,

1666
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 3: she took control of the fight, and when she had

1667
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 3: an opportunity, she pounced on it. Yeah, so that'd be

1668
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 3: exactly right. This is like right now, is the moment

1669
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 3: to press the to press the go button.

1670
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: We got Jasmine talking about this exact thing and that

1671
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: she's putting off the wedding.

1672
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 13: Are So, do you want to stay this active or

1673
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 13: you're looking for big names? What exactly do you want?

1674
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 7: Kind of up to the guys, I'm whatever the route

1675
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 7: is to that number one spot, Like I don't, I

1676
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 7: don't care who they've put in front of me.

1677
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't care about who to you know, I don't.

1678
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1679
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: They'll figure all that stuff out.

1680
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 7: I just want to see Jasmin jazz busiast number one

1681
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 7: champion of the world.

1682
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 13: So this time next year, do you think it says

1683
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 13: number one next year name?

1684
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 7: I'd say so, keep running on this this kind of trajectory.

1685
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 11: They said that you are delaying your wedding until you

1686
01:14:59,320 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 11: get the belt.

1687
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 2: You want the belt before the ring?

1688
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 8: Is that accurate?

1689
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 7: You know, I'm not here for a long time. I

1690
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 7: want to stay active, but I also want to like

1691
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 7: have a nice wedding and plan it and enjoy doing that.

1692
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 7: And I understand that there are sacrifices that I have

1693
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 7: to make. You know, I'm coming for that number one

1694
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 7: spot and you know afterwards we'll be able to get

1695
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 7: married and it will be a spectacular show.

1696
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 6: You can bring the belt to the wedding exactly.

1697
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: So she's ambitious. The work ethic is there. She's raised

1698
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: her game in her craft. But Luke, from what we

1699
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 2: see right now, is she title material? Is she good

1700
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: enough to win this championship in your eyes?

1701
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 11: Like?

1702
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: Is there room for more growth? Would what she did

1703
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: to Androge translate at all to the elite?

1704
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: Well, she might already be there. I don't know what

1705
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: I would say is.

1706
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: It's a busy division. We got Macy Barber coming up.

1707
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: You were asking, like, who's deserved the towle shot. The

1708
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 3: properm is you've got Blanchfield and Barber. You know you

1709
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: have Grosso and Fierro, but they've kind of fizzled out now.

1710
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 3: And then the next two in line would be Blanchfield

1711
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: and No, it would be Blanchfield and and Barber. So

1712
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 3: the winner of that one which is coming up, is

1713
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 3: probably gonna sell that question.

1714
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: Do you think, oh, so you think they would get

1715
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: the Blanchfield Barber winner would get it ahead of Silva.

1716
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 6: I think winner that fight fight Silva, and then you

1717
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 6: do Valentino versus either way, Lee as a fair point

1718
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 6: in the.

1719
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: Meantime, Yeah, that might be the right answer. You go

1720
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: right there.

1721
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: Interesting stuff playing out at the one two five division

1722
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: Topic number four, though, we continue on to the big

1723
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 2: hits down this UFC three fifteen card, and Jose Aldo

1724
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 2: was a big one. We didn't seem to love the

1725
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: matchmaking for the third straight fight, but amon Zahabby, who

1726
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: took home a disputed three round decision, uh at least

1727
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: co authored a fun as hell final round that was

1728
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 2: all action and then surprisingly for me, led to Josie

1729
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: Aldo directly to the King of he oh second retirement.

1730
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 2: So Luke Jose appeared to put the gloves down for

1731
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: good again. He said his body would not allow him

1732
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: to cut down to one thirty five this time around.

1733
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 2: That's why this fight was a featherweight bout. Do you

1734
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: believe that this is true, that this is the end

1735
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: of Josie Aldo's UFC career or combat sports participation in general,

1736
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 2: And if it is, should I move on past the

1737
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: regrets I have of the matchmaking that these were the

1738
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: last three Jose Aldo fights we saw rather than Dominic Cruz,

1739
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: Pitbull etctera, etcetera.

1740
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 3: All right, so let me say this I do hope

1741
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 3: it's the end for him. He's taken an enormous amount

1742
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 3: of abuse, but.

1743
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:35,959
Speaker 2: He's still really competent.

1744
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: He's still very competent. Dude.

1745
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 3: You don't need to stop when you're completely destroyed. You

1746
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: can stop before that. That's what people fail to realize.

1747
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 3: He's already absorbed a lifetime's worth of CTE. I'm sorry,

1748
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:48,799
Speaker 3: he has a guarantee you we show.

1749
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: That pick of him in the cage as that said,

1750
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: this was sad to see. This was like the final image.

1751
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I mean.

1752
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: Like, and he won that fight. Dude, he won that.

1753
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: He probably should have.

1754
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's a little closer than

1755
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 3: the Internet will tell you. But I do agree he

1756
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: probably should have won. But it's like, dude, he agreed

1757
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 3: to this fight. People keep saying, like the UFC did

1758
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: this to him. It's like he's a grown fucking man

1759
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 3: and it's not in the middle of his career, the

1760
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: very very end of it. He doesn't want to be

1761
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 3: in these kinds of fights. Don't accept them. But I

1762
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 3: also agree. I mean, here's the problem, right, b See,

1763
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 3: I could accept him losing, I could accept him taking

1764
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: some punishment, even at this stage if we were in fights,

1765
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 3: that made a little bit more sense, and like it's

1766
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 3: a boost to Amond's a hobby, but he's also a

1767
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 3: little bit long in the tooth. I don't know what

1768
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 3: he's really going to be able to get out of there.

1769
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 2: Thirty five he's riding Alwy six fight wind.

1770
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 3: Streak, which is great for him, but I don't know

1771
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 3: exactly what it's going to amount to in the end.

1772
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: Same with Bautista. I don't really know what's going to

1773
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: over three fights.

1774
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 2: Here's a closer look at the recent ledger of Jose Aldo.

1775
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: This is after the loss to uh uh morob.

1776
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 3: Right right, and look at the caption here he writes

1777
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: what a horribly managed comeback run for Joseialdo came back,

1778
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: fought opponents, nobody wanted to see him, and it went

1779
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 3: one and two and arguably, you know, could have gone Briono.

1780
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: I suppose.

1781
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: The UFC game gave him the wrong fights. There's really

1782
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: no argument.

1783
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: Learned that from Silva giving him cannon air and Brunson.

1784
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: And this is what they like to do.

1785
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 3: If you want to stick around, they're gonna use what's

1786
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 3: left of the husk that is your body they're gonna

1787
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: farm it out to whatever they can farm it out to. Dude,

1788
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: you know, Frank Jegger, Chris Gutierre is in the garden

1789
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 3: and that was his I think that was his last one,

1790
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 3: if I believe, Like, where's Chris Gutierra is Now? He's

1791
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 3: a good fighter, but didn't necessarily lift him to great heights.

1792
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: It didn't do any of that.

1793
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Frankie's career kind of just comes to like a

1794
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 3: limp and clothes. Dude, they should have fucking done pit

1795
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 3: Bull versus Aldo, but like they should like a like

1796
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,440
Speaker 3: a bigger prospect coming. Yeah, maybe something like that Chuewi's

1797
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, but they should have done dominant Cruz.

1798
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: Like these were the fights people wanted to see. These

1799
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: were the ones.

1800
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: And by the way, now that Aldo's gone, it's just fights.

1801
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: Like it's just guys like honey ya ya, who are

1802
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 3: the last WEC fighters on the roster?

1803
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: Now?

1804
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 3: I know Cruz has since hung it up, but like,

1805
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 3: you know, they mismanaged the end of this for one

1806
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: of the very best guys to ever do it. They

1807
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 3: should not have been putting him in fights that the

1808
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 3: fans were kind of sour on to begin with that

1809
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 3: didn't really lift the winners ultimately in the way that

1810
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 3: they I think kind of envisioned it. And in the end,

1811
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 3: who's satisfied by this?

1812
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: Obviously?

1813
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: If Amon's a hobby he thought, I think very Especially dude,

1814
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 3: he got soccer kicked in.

1815
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 2: The goddamn how he didn't get finished this unbelievable resiliency,

1816
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: Like I took my hat to time to the face

1817
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: and as he was falling back here.

1818
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: Fucking soccer kicked like dude, straight up. Amazing job by him.

1819
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, we're taking some of these legends

1820
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: and we're grinding them into dust for gains that are

1821
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: not exactly clear to me at all.

1822
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: Who's winning here? Who's winning?

1823
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: I mean, would you have rather had him against conn

1824
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: McGregor in a remiss then like a stupid fight?

1825
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 3: Should that video Connor put out of him training looked

1826
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 3: like he was moving through molasses.

1827
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 2: Well, if you're questioning if this is the end of

1828
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 2: all those UFC run, I think it is. And then

1829
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: the five tweet run that he put out yesterday that

1830
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 2: basically just reiterated the thoughts that he gave in the

1831
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: octagon about his body giving up on him. And him

1832
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: for the first time feeling like okay, Like it's almost

1833
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: like the baseball players that are you know, the famous

1834
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: ones that say like the moment they it became a

1835
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 2: job for them, They're like, Okay, I need to retire

1836
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: now I know it.

1837
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: That's the moment.

1838
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 2: But Luke Money talks and this guy's competitive. And look

1839
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: at Manny Pacio coming back at forty six years old

1840
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: this July to fight again for a world title. Do

1841
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: you feel like BKFC is going to call in a

1842
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 2: year and then he's gonna box Mike Perry without gloves

1843
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 2: for big money and win maybe and then you know

1844
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: or just yeah, insert name right, and like do you

1845
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 2: see Josialdo being done for good or do you think

1846
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: it's just it's just frickin' enough.

1847
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 3: I mean, he did say something kind of interesting and

1848
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 3: I tweeted it yesterday when he was saying he was

1849
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 3: cutting weight, and then a voice spoke to him, being like,

1850
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 3: you don't have to do this anymore, Well.

1851
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 2: You're down a class from your elite wait at this age, like,

1852
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: there's other there's ways to do this more lazy if.

1853
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: You want it to be fair, And I agree with him,

1854
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 3: like dude, Like, what's motivating him to just yeah, I

1855
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 3: mean keep the wind streak going, but I don't know

1856
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: what well, sorry the not the wind streak, but well,

1857
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 3: in his mind.

1858
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he's lost.

1859
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's part of that, but I think

1860
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: the issue is, you know what, what is the fucking

1861
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 3: point of this? What is the fucking point of all

1862
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 3: of this? You know, you're putting him in a place

1863
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 3: where the judges probably didn't do the right job in

1864
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 3: awarding him this contest. You're against an opponent that, again

1865
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 3: I give a ton of respect to. I'mond's a hobby

1866
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 3: who has you know, managed to have the best run

1867
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 3: of his career right at the very end of it,

1868
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: or you know, close to the end of it, and

1869
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 3: that's that's.

1870
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: Tord amazing, amazing, amazing job by him.

1871
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 3: But these are not the fights that the fans requested,

1872
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 3: and I don't know what's going to do for him

1873
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: long term. Meanwhile, you're watching one of the very fucking

1874
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 3: legends of the game just get put through the grinder,

1875
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: and you're like, how does it make you feel?

1876
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: Now?

1877
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: You don't feel like we're supposed to feel elevated when

1878
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 3: we watch a legend come back for something we're supposed to.

1879
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be romantic to a degree, it seems ordinary.

1880
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: Him and Tom Cruise could have fought, and no matter

1881
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 2: the result, that could have been full busheto everyone in

1882
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 2: the everyone's standing, giving both a standing ovation on their

1883
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: way out. It's like a perfect way. It's not like

1884
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 2: you could there's ways to pass the torch when you

1885
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: have that elite young prospect, which is why I felt

1886
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: like a Patty versus Connor pay per view fight should

1887
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: have already happened. Okay, you can also just let two

1888
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: legends go out one more time. Shake Han's, get the

1889
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: rubb and be out of there, And that's that's what

1890
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: it probably better would have felt like the rest of

1891
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: three fifteen, though, luke that early to open the pay

1892
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 2: per view main card of Ben was Saint Denis shaking

1893
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: off a two fight, losing skin I'm sorry for a

1894
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 2: while against Kyle preppolect and then he gets the submission

1895
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: with the arm triangle choke at in round two. He

1896
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: needed it to stop the streak, but I agree it didn't.

1897
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: Scream dude, he.

1898
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 1: Got lit up. Yeah, how was that possible?

1899
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 3: You take it on a guy who washed out of UFCU,

1900
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: you know, put together a decent win streak of four

1901
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 3: and one on the regional scene, comes back, you know,

1902
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 3: is clearly outgunned. Listen, BSD won that fight because he's

1903
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 3: in just an aggression machine and he does have some

1904
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 3: pretty good grappling.

1905
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: I'll give him credit there, but he got rocked. Dude.

1906
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 3: His head looks like it was glued onto his shoulders

1907
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 3: because of the lack of movement. There's nothing defensive, just

1908
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 3: walking the guy down, and so Prepa like kept fucking

1909
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 3: landing on him. And I'm like, dude, buddy, what you like?

1910
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: You can't beat anybody good fighting like this. You will

1911
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 3: not beat anybody good fighting like this.

1912
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: I hope he does. I hope we get to see

1913
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 2: the best of him in climbing the ranks, because you know,

1914
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 2: the division's opening up with those older guard guys on

1915
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: the way out. That way supposed to be what that

1916
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: was like a pat You know.

1917
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 3: You could like this guy being like, oh, I didn't

1918
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,799
Speaker 3: use a coach the last two camps.

1919
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, put the camera on me. Ready, here we go.

1920
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: It shows it shows.

1921
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Sure we're going to have a Don Davis.

1922
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 1: Put the camera on me.

1923
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: Moment soon but before we close out three fifteen. Now,

1924
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: Mike Mallott was and put on him at times against

1925
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: Charles Ratky in a fun little scrap. But dude, Malot

1926
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 2: got the hometown popped there in the prelim featured fight.

1927
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: Are you back on the bandwagon? The Canadian slow?

1928
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: No?

1929
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say this, it was exciting, great performance, dude,

1930
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 3: he was. I mean he was treating rat Key's head

1931
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 3: like a double ended.

1932
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: That was a brutal ground and pound finish.

1933
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: The overhead shots. I mean, we can't show the replay here.

1934
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 3: No, the ratkeys head is just getting like speed bagged.

1935
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 3: So that was I mean, it's got to feel great

1936
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 3: for Mike. That's a great comeback win. You know, I

1937
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: don't know what it means for his future BC if

1938
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm just being honest with you, but but you know,

1939
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 3: he had the He had the Canadian crowds all on

1940
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 3: their fields.

1941
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 2: So Mark Andre Barrio looked like a Canadian destroyer and

1942
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 2: he he dent the skull of Bruno Silva in that

1943
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: first round.

1944
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: K that was a bad kid, dude.

1945
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: Damn they brought in the stretcher.

1946
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 3: People might not appreciate this. I remember watching UFC when

1947
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 3: they would have a serious medical event in the octagon

1948
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 3: and then they would just wouldn't show it and they

1949
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 3: wouldn't update you on the broadcast. And this is some

1950
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 3: years go. This is a Spike TV era.

1951
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 2: They didn't have the insurance to cover it. I'm sure.

1952
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 3: No, no, you have to have insurance to cover by law,

1953
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 3: you couldn't.

1954
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: They didn't have need you guys to die outside.

1955
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no.

1956
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 3: They had to cover that stuff even then, but they

1957
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: didn't have transparency to the public about why they were

1958
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 3: doing it.

1959
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: And I think they've amended this.

1960
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 3: This is not a new thing that they're doing, but

1961
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 3: this was a good illustration of just how much better

1962
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 3: they've gotten about this issue. Where they showed him being

1963
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 3: stretchered out, which they did not do back in the day,

1964
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 3: and then gave us, through Brendan Fitzgerald, a series of

1965
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 3: medical updates about him. And by the way, I want

1966
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 3: to say something, as a bit of a side note,

1967
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 3: they had Brendan Fitzgerald doing locker room reporting, cage stat reporting,

1968
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 3: medical updates, and hosting the desk. He did all of

1969
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 3: it flawlessly. H he is such a good broadcaster. It

1970
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 3: is shocking.

1971
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 2: He's very good and he just followed me on Instagram.

1972
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 2: Shout out to nice There you go, Long Island. Luke,

1973
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 2: you give you credit the curtain jerker of the evening

1974
01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: at bantamweight. You said, Becza al mackin Almakon. Yeah, alma

1975
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,879
Speaker 2: Con was a potential killer and he killed Brad Katona

1976
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 2: in just over a minute.

1977
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Yo.

1978
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 6: Hey he look good, Luke thinks Katona kind of looks

1979
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,839
Speaker 6: like he's not so great. I think it was Omicon

1980
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 6: looking good.

1981
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 3: It is Olmicon looking good. Also, Katona is not that good.

1982
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 3: I mean he seems like a nice guy.

1983
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: But any other donks you want to talk about in

1984
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 2: this card? I mean, shout out to Lithuania, modestus.

1985
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: So the scoring and that was what the fuck was that?

1986
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 3: I can't even get angry about it anymore.

1987
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean they are kind of meaningless fights. Unfortunately.

1988
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 3: Well no, I mean the wreck I won, so it's

1989
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 3: not even that. But like thirty twenty seven the other way,

1990
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: you're like, what do you even say to.

1991
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: Something like that? I don't I don't even know what

1992
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: to say.

1993
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 2: I say, it's time for topic number oh long. I look,

1994
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 2: you always have something to say about the deep undercard.

1995
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: You want to go on the dark web and tell

1996
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: us anything here?

1997
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 6: No, I mean bukowski is getting that nod was a

1998
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 6: little iffy. Also, Daniel Santos over John Young Lee, I

1999
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 6: feel like that was a little if you.

2000
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 2: Could you have scored it for Farrow? Did you score

2001
01:27:59,160 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 2: it for her?

2002
01:27:59,600 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 7: No?

2003
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 6: I had one four or five for Chevy?

2004
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: Sorry? What am I saying? The Bukowska scoring was wrong? Well?

2005
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: The twenty nine twenty eight? How did you score that? Beout?

2006
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 6: I don't remember my exact scoring, but I remember thinking

2007
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 6: Kutalaba won.

2008
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: Yes, they read the score card, yes, so thirty twenty

2009
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: seven the other way. Excuse me?

2010
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 3: I think I remember thinking that, like, maybe you could

2011
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 3: find a round and a half.

2012
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: Form if you really squinted. But what are you gonna do?

2013
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,839
Speaker 2: There we go topic number five, Luke. It was Friday

2014
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: of last week. I'm not doing a bit here when

2015
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: I realized Paul Hughes maybe maybe the biggest and brightest

2016
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 2: thing going outside of Dakota Ditcheva in the PFL, that

2017
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: he was fighting this past weekend in Dublin. No doubt

2018
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 2: in what When that happens, you expect a raucous crowd

2019
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: and atmosphere, it was here's the problem. Nobody knew about it,

2020
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 2: and it wasn't on American television. Now in the end,

2021
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 2: the rising star Paul Hughes bounced back from the loss

2022
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 2: to Usmann and Magha Metov, and that thriller earlier this

2023
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: year needed just forty two seconds to finish. Bruno Miranda

2024
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: had an emotional call out of Namaga medoff for a

2025
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 2: rematch afterwards. But when there's zero opportunity for US fans

2026
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: to watch it live, when no one seems to know

2027
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 2: what's even happening, and now Don Davis comes out on

2028
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 2: Twitter and attempts to try to be the hero, can

2029
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 2: we throw to this tweet?

2030
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 1: Please?

2031
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 2: This was not from LinkedIn. This was on Twitter. PFL

2032
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: fans in USA, you asked for it.

2033
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: We pulled this off of Microsoft Teams and Slack.

2034
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: And PFL MMA will deliver it. All PFL International League

2035
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: fights will be available for free, free, free, free to

2036
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: watch in the USA moving forward starting June. First details

2037
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 2: coming in major announcement from PFL MMA. Luke that's similar

2038
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 2: to the victory lap he took by saying the fans

2039
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 2: wanted elbows, so we put elbows in MMA, Hey, Don,

2040
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 2: the fans want you to drop this tournament format, stop

2041
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 2: having eighteen champions in fifteen feeder leagues and just to

2042
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: clear who your best fighters are and have them fight

2043
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 2: for belts and then we'll get behind rather than what

2044
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 2: we're getting here. Either way, incredible atmosphere. Look, is it

2045
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 2: too hard to look past the Don Davis side of

2046
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: it and not guess if this company's still going to

2047
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 2: be around in two.

2048
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Years because they're not gonna be.

2049
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 2: This great moment happened that probably should have been. You know,

2050
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 2: they're leading no of this first half of the year

2051
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 2: based on the rivalry building between these guys, and they

2052
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 2: barely promoted it. It wasn't even you couldn't even watch it.

2053
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 3: Here's what blows my mind is that the UFC, like,

2054
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 3: if Paul Hughes was the UFC and he was coming

2055
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 3: off of that loss to Usbin nimburga madoff, could there

2056
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 3: be a world where he fought this Miranda kid in

2057
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 3: the same kind of way. Well maybe in the sense

2058
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 3: that they would have booked Hughes against somebody else, and

2059
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 3: if that other person had fallen out and they had

2060
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 3: called this guy in last minute, they would have done it.

2061
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 3: The point I'm trying to make is they actually, if

2062
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 3: you look at the show itself for whether.

2063
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Way, we couldn't get it here.

2064
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 3: So if you illegally streamed it somehow and you watched it,

2065
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 3: would it looked good on TV? Hughes, I mean set

2066
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 3: that crowd on fire. But the bigger point I wanted

2067
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 3: to make was this is Strikeforce. Strike Force would take

2068
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 3: a guy off of a big win and they might

2069
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,759
Speaker 3: give him another big fight after that, But sometimes they wouldn't.

2070
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes they would give him a guy that they knew

2071
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 3: he could easily beat, and he would in fact easily

2072
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 3: beat him.

2073
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: It would be red meat.

2074
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 3: To the fans and attendance to online, and it would

2075
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 3: build his star power, and then the one after that

2076
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 3: they would give him another tough fight again. So what

2077
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 3: I'm saying is, I don't even mind that the fact

2078
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 3: that the fight was forty three seconds, it looked good

2079
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 3: on TV and look good for the crowd. It's only

2080
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 3: gonna you know, he gets a win back. It gets

2081
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 3: a seminal moment for Irish MMA history.

2082
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: Big moment for PFL if it's presented.

2083
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 3: And you've got no one in the States who even

2084
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 3: knew about it or had access to it. I don't

2085
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 3: use this phrase very often BC, but I'm going to

2086
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 3: bring it back out because it's relevant. This is promotional malpractice.

2087
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 3: This is promotional malpractice. This is doing it wrong. This

2088
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 3: is doing it wrong.

2089
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 2: And then spoke and he delivered, so moving forward and

2090
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 2: then to be like like, oh, we're listening to the fans.

2091
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 3: You don't have a domestic fan base, don What the

2092
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 3: fuck are you talking about? Like, we're listening to the fans,

2093
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 3: you mean the complaints that have been lobbied about the

2094
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 3: access to the premier guys. And by the way, listen

2095
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 3: to what I'm saying. I'm not even saying they're doing

2096
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 3: a bad job matchmaking him. I'm actually saying it's a

2097
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 3: pretty good job. But if a tree falls in the

2098
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 3: forest and no one is there to see it, right,

2099
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 3: we know the whole thing.

2100
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. And by the way,

2101
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: we hear that like.

2102
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 3: Sometimes he'll DM media guys when they say critical things. Yes,

2103
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 3: you know, because I haven't. I haven't gotten one of

2104
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 3: those yet. Have you got one of those?

2105
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2106
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 12: I'd love to.

2107
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 2: I'd love to have a chat with him about this

2108
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: kind of stuff because It's like.

2109
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 3: It's promotional malpractice to have one of your most exciting

2110
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 3: talents and not promote him and not even have a

2111
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 3: way for people in the US to access.

2112
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The thing that they spend all their money

2113
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 2: and time promoting are these tournaments that don't actually lead

2114
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 2: to becoming champion, and it's kind of in some ways

2115
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 2: they're second tier fighters, so it's like, what about their

2116
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 2: first tear fighters. Oh, they are either sitting out wait

2117
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 2: for the next pay per view if it happens, or.

2118
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 1: They're at the road to Dubai, South Africa.

2119
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 2: Going on a major podcast and complaining publicly that Ditschiva

2120
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 2: had to do to then get a fight announced the

2121
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 2: next day. So let's show from a fan cam. Here

2122
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: was the in arena excitement and this is all part

2123
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 2: of Dublin and these incredible fight fans in Irish combat sports.

2124
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 2: But listening on this, this kids a fucking stop. Let's

2125
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 2: check out this tweet too from PT Carroll, who from

2126
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 2: on Crown provided great coverage coming in and coming out

2127
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 2: of it. He said, the world should have been able

2128
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 2: to see this tonight so they can understand what Paul

2129
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 2: Hughes means to these people. One of the best atmospheres

2130
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 2: I've experienced covering the sport in fifteen plus years on

2131
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:57,759
Speaker 2: this on this island.

2132
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like, dude, they're gonna go out of business

2133
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: and MMA is going to be.

2134
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 2: Poorer for it. Can the rematch save them? Because this

2135
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 2: should have been the thing nothing considered. I mean after

2136
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 2: the first fight, which was so great, and they put

2137
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: it for free on social media on YouTube, and then

2138
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna be off for too much.

2139
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 3: It's gonna be so bad for MMA when a promotion

2140
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 3: like this goes, it's going to be terrible.

2141
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: He was talking about.

2142
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 15: I will never ever ever forget the entire experience. But

2143
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 15: I could see a black that stitting in with the

2144
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 15: lights and I heard every single person singing at the

2145
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 15: same time, and that is just something I will go

2146
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 15: to the grid with. I mean, I believe I'm one

2147
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 15: of the best time for find on the planet. I

2148
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 15: truly true to believe that. I think that when I

2149
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 15: get to fight Impi Duisman, that will be more proof

2150
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 15: that I am that guy. I just need to beat

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01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 15: him first. It has to be next. The PFL would

2152
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 15: be absolutely crazy not to make that Q next, So

2153
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 15: make the fight as soon as possible. Let's get it done.

2154
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, drop everything you're doing. I'm sorry, drop

2155
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 2: PFL Mina in all the like, it's cool that you

2156
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: have this blueprint of how you're going to build up

2157
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: this this world you know system, You're never going to

2158
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 2: get there unless you're actually using your assets. Where the

2159
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 2: frick is patchy mix? How the hell did you let

2160
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 2: Aaron Pico go there? Please?

2161
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 3: They're stuck between we have to differentiate our brand to

2162
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 3: get money, to confuse, right, we have to confuse our

2163
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 3: brand to get money. But as a consequence, they can't

2164
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 3: grow an audience because everything is so confusing and they

2165
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 3: make bad decisions.

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01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: And he just that's where we are.

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01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 2: All Don does is pass it off as the m

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01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 2: M A media being negative. It's like you don't have

2169
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 2: the leverage to do the Dana White move and say.

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01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: That also, we're negative because we're right.

2171
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 2: Because we want you to succeed. And it's like, what

2172
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 2: the hell is going on?

2173
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 3: You imagine looking at a burning building and be like,

2174
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 3: why are you guys so negative about this this building's

2175
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 3: future prospects?

2176
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: Well, it's on fucking fire.

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01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 2: What's the best thing PFL can do to make this

2178
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 2: rematch huge, to put a lot of positive pr in them.

2179
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: World tour, pr world tour, and book it in a

2180
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: venue with fans, with fans, sell in domestically and full

2181
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: court press on doing media.

2182
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: Are you talking about like Boston? Are you talking about put.

2183
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah boss to be a great idea TD Garden if

2184
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 3: you could sell it. But this is the point I'm

2185
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 3: going to make you laugh at me when I brought

2186
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 3: this up. You see, well, when they came to DC

2187
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 3: with Francis and Jake Paul and I talked to my

2188
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 3: friends over at the Washington Post. It was like, did

2189
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 3: they even come to you guys and pitch you?

2190
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:19,759
Speaker 1: And they didn't.

2191
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 3: It was one thing not to pitch me, but they

2192
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 3: didn't even pitch the Washington Post, Like, how do you

2193
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 3: come to DC and you don't even bother with him?

2194
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 3: You didn't bother with Fox five, You didn't bother with

2195
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 3: any of these other outlets that are typically pretty receptive

2196
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 3: to this kind of thing. They have to stop that,

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01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 3: they have to get out there, hit the pavement. You

2198
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 3: got to come see this kid. We've got one of

2199
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Speaker 3: the most exciting They can literally say to the camera,

2200
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 3: We've got one of the most exciting fighters irrespective of

2201
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Speaker 3: weight class in the entire sport.

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Speaker 1: And they're telling the truth.

2203
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 3: If you can't sell tickets based off of that Bubba,

2204
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 3: you can't sell TIEW.

2205
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 2: Should you put on the Coleman and make that a.

2206
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: Pay per view?

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01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: Fuck No, put that on ESPN. Put that on ESPN.

2208
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 3: Put that on ESPN. Put that on ESPN. And I'm

2209
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 3: telling you, I'm telling you it's a different ballgame under

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01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 3: that consider I.

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01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 2: Wish they promoted that like a pro wrestling promotion from

2212
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 2: the eighties would meaning every show, we've got to sit

2213
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 2: down interview segment with Paul Hughes to continue to churn

2214
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 2: up talk to that rematch every one of these tournament shows,

2215
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 2: like it's got to be about what you're building toward.

2216
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 2: They never educate to the fans what they're building toward

2217
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: in anything. It's Donald just say, oh, yeah, we'll just

2218
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 2: do the Champions League Series at the end of the year.

2219
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 2: For what another meaningless belt that you're going to create

2220
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 2: that's going to disappear the second it's competed for. Johnny

2221
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 2: Eblin's fighting soon he's the middleweight champion of what eur PFL.

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01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah again in that press release, so they announced that

2223
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 3: Evelin and Ditcheville were coming back. Eblin was listed as

2224
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 3: the weight class champ. Ditchiva was listed as the tournament champ.

2225
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 3: But you don't there's you know, the differentiation in how

2226
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,799
Speaker 3: it's described as modest and if you're not paying attention,

2227
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 3: you wouldn't even know.

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01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 2: It's the whole thing ridiculous. It depresses me.

2229
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 3: But that part is it's going to be bad for

2230
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 3: MMA when they go. It's going to be really, really bad.

2231
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 3: But what can I say?

2232
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 2: And you can reach the show in the future, folks,

2233
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 2: including Friday's episode, when we will take your fan subs

2234
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 2: and post your dead wrongs by reaching out to Morning

2235
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 2: Combat at gmail dot com. Tell Mikey we said hi,

2236
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: or you said hi, but just don't show any pictures

2237
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 2: of your privates. Thank you so much, Luke. You know

2238
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 2: how much I love boxing. The Boxing Hall of Fame

2239
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 2: in Canistoda, New York, and by proxy I heard about

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Speaker 2: it for years, the experience of the Boxing Hall of

2241
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 2: Fame weekend, the International Boxing Hall of Fame there I

2242
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: called a couple of showbox fights back in the day

2243
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 2: on that weekend, And how about this Friday June six

2244
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: and a really fun collaboration coming up between Salida Promotions

2245
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 2: and All the Smoke Fight as they present Hall of

2246
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 2: Fame Fight Night. It'll air live on his own Friday,

2247
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: June sixth at the Turning Stone Resort Casino in Verona,

2248
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 2: New York, one town over there from Canistota, and the

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Speaker 2: legendary hof USBA titleist Brandon More will face unbeaten and

2250
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Speaker 2: dangerous Stanley Right in the main event in a matchup

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Speaker 2: of American heavyweights. We're also going to see Franchion Cruise

2252
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 2: deserned her unified world champion on the undercard. UH, some

2253
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 2: rising contenders as well, And this is a pretty cool

2254
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,719
Speaker 2: collaboration here. We're getting All the Smoke Fight on the scene.

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Speaker 2: Andre Ward as well sit down to interviews with the

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Speaker 2: Hall of famers h Manny Pacio going in that weekend,

2257
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 2: by the way, to stay just a month before he

2258
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 2: is going to come out of retirement at age forty six.

2259
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 3: So happy about him going to the Hall of Fame though,

2260
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 3: but him going to the Hall of Fame very cool.

2261
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 2: I hope I get to call it. That'd be fantastic,

2262
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 2: do you know if you are, I don't know. Yeah,

2263
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 2: it'll be you're calling Caleb Plant Jamal Charlow in separate

2264
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 2: fights May thirty, first PBC on Prime.

2265
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: But it's a T mobile.

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Speaker 2: That is that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: Actually, I gotta check it. I don't think T mobile. Okay,

2269
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 2: they got to figure out it could be Mandali Babe

2270
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 2: excited about this Friday, June sixth. Of course they're on

2271
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 2: live on his own at the Turning Stone Resort Casino.

2272
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: Should be a good time Hall of Fame fight night. So,

2273
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, those are our five topics put to bed.

2274
01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 2: We do have an opportunity for the fans to reach

2275
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 2: out to to us and touch us a little at

2276
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 2: Morning Combat, at Gmail, on Instagram and on X Sunday nights.

2277
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 2: And you did that. So here are your questions. They're

2278
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 2: called dms from donks. Yeah, that was that was pretty gross.

2279
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Look I hate it all.

2280
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 2: Right, let's hear the first question. This is from at

2281
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 2: Rick Bolden, who ends twenty twenty five Luke Thomas as

2282
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 2: the UFC walterweight and lightweight champion. Great question, in light

2283
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,799
Speaker 2: of everything going on right now, you're like Elio Tuporia,

2284
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 2: both of them.

2285
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 1: Ilioporia for a lightweight for sure, Walterway. One's a little

2286
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 1: more interesting to me.

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01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 16: Hm.

2288
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 2: Okay, where are we at right now? We are in

2289
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 2: the month of May.

2290
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: We have potentially two more fights. Potentially the champion.

2291
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,959
Speaker 2: Will defend once in the next four months. Probably probably

2292
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 2: it might be against he gets the mach Of, but

2293
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 2: he won't fight again mach Of the winner if he wins.

2294
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 1: Unlikely, but it's possible.

2295
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna be is it gonna be ill, gonna be me.

2296
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,639
Speaker 3: It's gonna be shitty if I will say this, it's

2297
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:15,959
Speaker 3: gonna be shitty if they both move up weight classes

2298
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 3: and then become champions immediately and then we still miss

2299
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 3: that fight.

2300
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,679
Speaker 2: You know, what do you make of Islam on social media?

2301
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 2: I saw saying that he doesn't want he doesn't necessarily

2302
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 2: have to give up the belt. He just wants to

2303
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: move up become a Two.

2304
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: Fighters say lots of things. Okay, that's nice when they

2305
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 1: do that, they say lots of things.

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01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Islam right now. Islam will close the year,

2307
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 2: But I mean we need to see it. Mean, we

2308
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 2: freaking need to see it. Next question coming in Hot

2309
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 2: and Heavy from at Cosma B seventeen. If JDM beats

2310
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 2: Islam later this year, Who does that win him Fighter

2311
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 2: of the Year. Yeah, if you win the championship in

2312
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 2: the same year that you beat the number one pound

2313
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,839
Speaker 2: for pound fighter to make your first title.

2314
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 3: Defense, it could And then someone's gonna go, Yeah, but

2315
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 3: there's guy farked three times, and that guy fucked two times,

2316
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 3: and three is a bigger number than two.

2317
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:07,759
Speaker 6: So therefore three im question of Corey Sandegan and that skip.

2318
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't stand those people about this poetically argument.

2319
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 2: I mean, what if what if Turia wins the title

2320
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 2: against Charles, if that happens and then gets a second

2321
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 2: fight against whom.

2322
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Gachi ue are They're going to make a patty fight

2323
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: if wins.

2324
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would, and that would be a big deal

2325
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 2: and that should be.

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01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 3: The sending his mouthpiece into orbit would be Yeah, I

2327
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 3: mean think about it. Well, no, it would be to

2328
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 3: Puri in that case, because he'd be going up away

2329
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 3: class and then under the scenario that we're posting, he'd

2330
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Speaker 3: be doing.

2331
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2332
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 2: I imagine if they were both in the running for

2333
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 2: Fight of the Year, We're like, why don't you just

2334
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 2: fight each other to close the year?

2335
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: And that's what you should be.

2336
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 2: That's what you should do at the tip. There we go.

2337
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 2: Let's see the next question from our viewers. This is

2338
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 2: from at Taekwon dough No Taekwon Taekwon dude, memes, is

2339
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 2: got a actually the biggest loser in MMA right now.

2340
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 2: He's clearly not next at one seventy And who knows

2341
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 2: what would happen if Islam wins the belt and then

2342
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 2: tries to defend the fifty five two.

2343
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 1: He definitely took a hit. He definitely took a hit.

2344
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 2: There was a picture of him on social media wearing

2345
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 2: a cast cast.

2346
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Yes, you say, like the Infinity Gauntlet, Like.

2347
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:20,719
Speaker 2: He just had surgery. It seems that'd be cool.

2348
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 3: If you broke your arm and they gave you a

2349
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: cast that was like the Infinity Gauntlet, that'd be kind

2350
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 3: of sick.

2351
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 2: Whoever's the champion, Like when it's Chavcott's time, it's not

2352
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 2: like he's gonna do a ton of media ahead of it,

2353
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 2: Like it's just gonna find We're gonna find out he's

2354
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 2: healthy and it's gonna be his time.

2355
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely.

2356
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the problem, dude, Like even if you

2357
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 3: have to sit up because of injury, like there's you

2358
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 3: just have to sit out. Oh my god, Mma moves fast. Buckley,

2359
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,600
Speaker 3: here he comes running up, here comes.

2360
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 2: You think he might lose his spot, meaning they might say,

2361
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're gonna have to come back and fight

2362
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: the winner of Buckley. You're gonna have to. Yes, absolutely,

2363
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 2: that's why it's fun. I mean, we're just gonna add

2364
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 2: the best fighter on.

2365
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: The It's a fucking shark tank. He really is. Yeah.

2366
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see the next question from the people. This

2367
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 2: is from Matt probably Brian. What is your favorite boushido

2368
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 2: moment in m M A. Mine is Luis Leoto Machida

2369
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 2: bowing after front kicking Vitor's head into the stratosphere. That

2370
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 2: was a cold but sweet bushido moment right there. Uh, Luke,

2371
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 2: I mean there was some girl hieto. Can you run that, Valentino?

2372
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 2: You want a clip for a second year, we'll speak

2373
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 2: over it. Look, I enjoyed this girl hido moment. Uh

2374
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 2: when uh, you know, Valentina defended the title, proved her greatness,

2375
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: and then it was it was like the receiving line

2376
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 2: after a wedding. Luke, I don't know who that is.

2377
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: Who's that right there?

2378
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Bigelow. That's a huge bit.

2379
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a there's yo wanna champion? Uh luke.

2380
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 2: We love bushido because we get it these days so

2381
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 2: few and far between most And is there a historic

2382
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 2: bushido moment that jumps out at you?

2383
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:50,839
Speaker 1: Mmmm?

2384
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, who who got on their knees and cried when

2385
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 2: it was somebody's last fight recently and it was like

2386
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about?

2387
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 1: Fuck? Was that with the noise that you?

2388
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, now look what fight? Am I referencing when

2389
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 2: when somebody had their last fight and then the opponent

2390
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 2: like prayed over them and like hugged them on the

2391
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 2: ground afterwards. I don't know, and like bowed in front

2392
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 2: like vaguely know what you're talking about.

2393
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember that has had a few of those.

2394
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: You know. He did it to Ryan Bader too, I believe,

2395
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 1: you know.

2396
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's pure. I mean it is,

2397
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,480
Speaker 2: it is bushido, but it's also like this badass celebration.

2398
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 3: On yeah, but also like you know, it's showing respect

2399
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 3: to a guy who is your opponent. I might say

2400
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 3: it's slightly different, but Yankee Pseudo having the we are

2401
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 3: all One flag that he would take with him and

2402
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 3: show the crowd everywhere, even when you know you had

2403
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 3: crazy ass fights even against like Butterbean and stuff like that,

2404
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 3: Like just trying to show community and unity rather than

2405
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 3: what we get now, which is you know and we're jokes.

2406
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 2: How about that time that Tito like had his last

2407
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: fight and then Forrest Griffin just comment dared the microphone.

2408
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Oh that's right, Holy shit, I

2409
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 1: forgot about that and wasn't.

2410
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 2: I was like drunken uncle at your wedding gear.

2411
01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:59,719
Speaker 1: You're seeing Tito's new ads for his business.

2412
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're coming.

2413
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's sposed tequila wrong on the He does.

2414
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 2: A lot of those things regularly. Do we have a

2415
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 2: final question from the people or does that wrap up

2416
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 2: from that?

2417
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:08,839
Speaker 1: Z Riggs?

2418
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 2: If you could truth saram Turkey, what would you ask?

2419
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 2: I always play this game with Dana White, Like, if

2420
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: you could know one truth, you can ask Dana wait

2421
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 2: right now one question you has to give you a

2422
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 2: non answer. But now we're doing it Turkey style. What

2423
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 2: would you ask?

2424
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: Are you evil? You?

2425
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 2: You have you truth? Have you have you done the

2426
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 2: math yourself to have an opinion?

2427
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean I'm asking you're asking what what? Well? You're

2428
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: asking like what could I ask him that to get.

2429
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 3: An interesting response? If you had to, like a complete

2430
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 3: one commitment to the truth? Are you evil? Be curious

2431
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 3: to hear what you have to say?

2432
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 2: All right?

2433
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: Interesting?

2434
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 2: Interesting?

2435
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 3: Do you remember the song from Metallica? And yes I am.

2436
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I have decently funny answers, But will they

2437
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 2: get me into hot water? You know, that's question I'm

2438
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 2: trying to avoid that these days.

2439
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 1: Who's the guy who's looking like a fucking boy? Rick Greena,

2440
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 1: that's the Turkey. I don't know what I would ask

2441
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: him to be honest with, I'm just making something up.

2442
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: How many of these outfits you got a little more

2443
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: interesting to me? Yeah? I mean Rick, what you wearing? Bud?

2444
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 2: I mean, we could ask do we want to know

2445
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 2: the answers with Turkey? That's yeah, yeah, interesting. Those are

2446
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: the five questions from the fans. Thank you very much

2447
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 2: for playing. We'll see you next week. We have one

2448
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 2: more segment for you, and it's when I on Sunday

2449
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 2: Scholar the Globe for the highs and lows, the good,

2450
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugliity in between the world of combat

2451
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 2: sports and beyond. This one's called have you seen this ship?

2452
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 2: You have se three fifteen was in Montreal, Luke, and

2453
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 2: although we didn't get many soundbites from Danna this week,

2454
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 2: he did respond when they said, I thought you don't

2455
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: do stadiums. What's up with Bud Canelo?

2456
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 13: Oh you throw more punches, So I'm curious what kind

2457
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 13: of fight can we expect from you against.

2458
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:00,560
Speaker 2: Sorry that was the wrong one, but that's hilarious. I

2459
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 2: read it out of order. That was to kick off

2460
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 2: the three fifteen press conferences. Maybe that's why Dana barely played.

2461
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's the other MK dogs. Bet.

2462
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 2: Here's the question about the dome convenient in the stadium.

2463
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,640
Speaker 2: I know you like the experience I got better to

2464
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 2: experience at the arena.

2465
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,879
Speaker 16: And yeah, I hate it. I hate it so because

2466
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 16: I hate it so much, you know, I'm gonna have

2467
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 16: to try to figure out out how to make it

2468
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 16: an incredible experience. Uh inside allegiance, then, won't I don't

2469
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 16: understand that he succeeds.

2470
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,799
Speaker 2: If he succeeds with Bud Canelo being an in arena

2471
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 2: like Dynamo like, it probably will be. I mean, he

2472
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 2: has been to big time boxing events. They always they.

2473
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 3: Thrill the big The entire answer makes no sense. First

2474
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 3: of all, why would you want someone working on this

2475
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 3: who detests the concept of it. You're not going to

2476
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 3: get the best out of that period.

2477
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,879
Speaker 2: You're just Won't this force him like Ronda Rousey's success

2478
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 2: in star Power forced his hand on Women's of the may.

2479
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 2: Won't this force him to go, Oh my god, this

2480
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 2: was awesome when we did it right.

2481
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 3: You don't like how people think he's gonna rethink twenty

2482
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 3: five years of the way he's been promoting for one card.

2483
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 3: You're out of your fucking mind. That's not gonna happen.

2484
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,440
Speaker 3: More to the point he disdains than the very concept

2485
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 3: of it. And even more than that, we've already seen

2486
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 3: people do very successful arena shows in MMA and boxing.

2487
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 3: There's already a blueprint. What he's like, I have to

2488
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:23,679
Speaker 3: go figure this out, Like, no one's done it before.

2489
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:25,759
Speaker 1: A million people have fucked.

2490
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 3: Octagon does it in Europe several times a year, kas

2491
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 3: W does it several times a year.

2492
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 1: Pride did it when I was in fucking college.

2493
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 2: What yeah, can we show the first ay and white

2494
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:38,799
Speaker 2: clip again with the fans?

2495
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 13: Oh, you're throwing more punches, So I'm curious.

2496
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: One kind of fighting?

2497
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 13: What can we expect from you against Valentine on Saturday?

2498
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 1: Uh yeah.

2499
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 2: Three point fifteen also gave us the UFC wayan show

2500
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,480
Speaker 2: being wild. Let's watch this beer chug competition.

2501
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 1: This first no twisty twist once good.

2502
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 2: It's like hot potato. Whoever it lands on, you gotta

2503
01:49:57,840 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: drink it.

2504
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: This used to be MK when we saw you gotta drive.

2505
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: There we go drinking hard, drink it go.

2506
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 2: They take it after it.

2507
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,759
Speaker 1: With m hell DC sports legend, go the go Dang.

2508
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,799
Speaker 2: Go go good. Josh Jingo commits to the biting.

2509
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 3: He actually does this way and show is one of

2510
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 3: the best things UFC does the old That's like me

2511
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 3: on the Halo after I've been spoken weed all night.

2512
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 8: Laur You're a uh, you are a winner and everything

2513
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 8: you do, finish this.

2514
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:33,640
Speaker 6: I care La.

2515
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:35,600
Speaker 1: You are better than this.

2516
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 2: That's like a pro wrestling level commitment there.

2517
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 4: From saying that DC's dumping it all out on the floor,

2518
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 4: it's really hard to do that.

2519
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: It's good.

2520
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 2: He's like, let me get these calories. If you don't

2521
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 2: know them, all right, let's keep it going here. Also

2522
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 2: r J Clifford at the one liner of the week.

2523
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 2: You love this guy, right, Are you a bigger fan

2524
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 2: of Jessica Andrage than I am of Shop cut.

2525
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 11: Me.

2526
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more sexual, but I would say,

2527
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 2: oh my god, oh keep an't mad about my incantage jokes? Right?

2528
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:09,839
Speaker 15: Got him?

2529
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god? I mean I guess I do.

2530
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I'm surprised you didn't get in

2531
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 3: trouble for that at work. But you know, you can

2532
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 3: just say you're like Alf Hitler on this job and

2533
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 3: then on sh about it. But r J is the man.

2534
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 3: He was a longtime guy. It's serious sex and I

2535
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 3: think he's still there. He's great.

2536
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 2: Not pictured at UFC three fifteen was maybe the most

2537
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 2: important man in m A right now in terms of

2538
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 2: get your ship together John Jones. He was in Thailand, Luke,

2539
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 2: but this video came out of him. Huh Zyle like Jones?

2540
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 1: So oh come on my dumo?

2541
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 2: Uh so I don't.

2542
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean, well, it's good to see him sober, you know.

2543
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, as he trained him for the Aspen All fight.

2544
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 2: Is that what's happening? What the hell is going on here?

2545
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't who knows?

2546
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 2: This is m man twenty five? Yeah, right, get ready

2547
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 2: for AS's been all gone?

2548
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: And just like it. Hey, Paul Hughes might be fighting today.

2549
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: We don't even know. We don't even know.

2550
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 2: All right, time for your regular folk fights of the week. Here,

2551
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 2: let's go to this bar and watch this action, Luke.

2552
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 2: It started off fun and games, but it gets serious quickly.

2553
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 1: This two dudes, I can't even tell.

2554
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 2: Look at this guy going for the curb stomp.

2555
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 1: Oh dude, dude, come on, hey, I mean that's just cheap.

2556
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 2: Oh good, this guy a bunch of white frat kids, Luke.

2557
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 2: These are your folk.

2558
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:31,559
Speaker 1: Whoa, yeah, exactly, Yeah, you're damn right. They are.

2559
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 2: All right? All right, uh, decent scrap. Let's go to

2560
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 2: the Red Rock Casino in Vegas. Here's your real folk

2561
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: fight of the week.

2562
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 1: They have to hear it. I'll do a lot of

2563
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: what's up talking?

2564
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 2: What's down? Dude?

2565
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 1: You know what my man in the hoodie tried to.

2566
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: He tried to help. They didn't listen. Oh now he's

2567
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 1: talking ship to those like I'm scared. Yeah. Oh he's

2568
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 1: trying to he's trying to. Oh did he break his leg?

2569
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 3: He did the crow cop Yeah, to get a head

2570
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 3: kicked by Gabriel Gonzaga.

2571
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: Damn.

2572
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 2: Let's also go to the alleyway watch this fax machine

2573
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 2: take a take a moment in this fight. Oh boy, okay,

2574
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 2: I don't know the context of that situation, but that's why.

2575
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: One more time, yo, I gotta send you a fact.

2576
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,719
Speaker 2: She kept it one hund with the facts right there. Wow,

2577
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 2: old white guys at a NASCAR event. Yeah, we'll watch

2578
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 2: him scrap. Luke, check this out.

2579
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 1: Well, who's not going to do that?

2580
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 2: No, no, it's it's true. X is the best.

2581
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: Don't you tell them Dale senior jumps.

2582
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 2: Don't you talk about the king?

2583
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 7: Right? Wow?

2584
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 1: Don't you talk about Kyang of this race?

2585
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 17: Right?

2586
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 1: All?

2587
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 11: Right?

2588
01:53:51,800 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 2: Time for some nutshots. Let's go to the break dance. Okay,

2589
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 2: warning up, Okay, let's go to the soccer pitch. See

2590
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 2: if anyone can take it to the nuts here. Oh boy,

2591
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 2: that is uh is a fully right?

2592
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 1: There? Is that? The Saudi Arabian League too? Yeah?

2593
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:18,679
Speaker 2: I think so? Yeah? Yeah?

2594
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 1: You know what, it's better than getting bones.

2595
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 2: On, Luke. The lady that you have voted MVP of

2596
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 2: the segment is the crazy cake lady from France. Let's

2597
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 2: check it out her.

2598
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 3: Okay, oh god, okay, stop eating things, you crazy lady.

2599
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 2: Imagine if she just pulls out like a just strips

2600
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 2: of guy's pants down and just.

2601
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 3: She's gonna cut off her leg and it's just gonna

2602
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 3: be Oh, here we go. What about God, you are disgusting.

2603
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 3: Put her in the zoo?

2604
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 1: How about that? But we need to.

2605
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 2: See under the showtime budget, I bet you I could

2606
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 2: have convinced Daniel Snyder's nephew to fly her in for

2607
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 2: an m campisode where she just like it's cutting up

2608
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 2: the MK. Yeah, it's like your vape. She just takes

2609
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 2: a bite out of it. Its cake, you know. It's like, oh,

2610
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: this dis to be great, my elder abuse time, Luke.

2611
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 2: Let's let's this is why.

2612
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 3: You don't drink beer on trains, right, Okay, I don't

2613
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 3: know what city this is in it?

2614
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh god, okay, that is uh, hang on to those

2615
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 2: rails here, let's see what's happening here. Now that's the

2616
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:18,879
Speaker 2: end of it. He took a he took a facial

2617
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 2: right there. All right. Uh, let's see. This is why

2618
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 2: I don't mess with like bullfighting or the running of

2619
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 2: the bulls or anything to do with the bulls. Pretty much.

2620
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 2: I don't even go to Chicago.

2621
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh my god, Hey guys, I'll stop messing with

2622
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 3: gigantic horned animals.

2623
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 2: All right? Uh, luke? What like, what do you do

2624
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 2: when a friend accidentally puts a hole in your wall?

2625
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: You know?

2626
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 2: I mean that'll fix it. Let's go to the barbershop here,

2627
01:55:58,320 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 2: Cuts of the week time, Luke?

2628
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Okay?

2629
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, score one for feminism.

2630
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: I gotta say it seems like truth in advertising.

2631
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, if you thought that aircut was good,

2632
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 2: you give me the fucking con Give me the post

2633
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 2: malone when you go to the barber next time.

2634
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, just send this person to a Salvador

2635
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 1: to die in al Is that art? That's kind of art, right,

2636
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's art of a certain kind. Yeah, all right?

2637
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 2: Would you smoke that joint?

2638
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 7: Right?

2639
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 1: Out of that? Of course? Question? Would you joke?

2640
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 2: Would you Joe? Would you smoke the giant Punjamin coming

2641
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 2: up in this next clip? That's a little extremes.

2642
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 10: No, it gets the extra flavor extra, yeah, extra extra

2643
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 10: flavors holding.

2644
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:42,839
Speaker 7: A very sale.

2645
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that would determine because it would?

2646
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 2: Okay. My late uncle used to tell a story about

2647
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 2: hitchhiking in the late seventies across uh the west coast of.

2648
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 1: Our country was the Zodiac Killer.

2649
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 2: He could probably could have been confused as it. He said.

2650
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 2: One time he got it was in the back seat

2651
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 2: of a two seat sedan and the guys were like, hey,

2652
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 2: you mind if we smoke. He's like, yeah, no problem,

2653
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 2: he said. They pulled out a giant wooden long bong

2654
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 2: that shaped like a boner, and they were.

2655
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 3: Like, maybe those guys should stop hitchhiking and buying drugs

2656
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 3: and just put their money towards a car.

2657
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's wild. The way that that story ends

2658
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 2: is even more wild, but we'll have to save that.

2659
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: For an uh Al, I've seen the Killer movie. I

2660
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 1: know how it is all right.

2661
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Local news bloopers continue to be the best watch the

2662
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 2: Spanish news broadcast Luke's spending. Okay, did you see that man?

2663
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 1: What is that? Luke?

2664
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 16: What like Portuguese?

2665
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm glad I got to see another man's

2666
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 3: ask today. I didn't get enough of that on the

2667
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 3: New York City subway.

2668
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 2: Luke, take me down to the Paradise City where the

2669
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 2: grass is green and the girls have And if you're

2670
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 2: making last minute dinner plans, you may have a hard

2671
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 2: time getting in some of the titties and some in

2672
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 2: some of the.

2673
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: City's top spots. That's my nightmare.

2674
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 3: That's my nightmare is to be forever memorialized being like

2675
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 3: and uh, just being on local news and just being like,

2676
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 3: you know what, guys, I want to go for some titties,

2677
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 3: I mean beers when this is over and everyone knows

2678
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 3: you're a fucking creep, you know.

2679
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like also if you're like an

2680
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 2: old Ridge guy and you just want to get laid

2681
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 2: and then like everybody's making fun of your relationship.

2682
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 3: Bella checking his girlfriend in the year two thousand. Okay,

2683
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 3: that's that's disgusting, that's disturbing.

2684
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 2: All right, we should cleanse the palette with the MLB

2685
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 2: arm Break of the week. You into this? Oh oh

2686
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 2: that need dropped it too, dude.

2687
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 3: That's oh well, you know what, they play one hundred

2688
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 3: and seventy two games a season.

2689
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: We'll be back, all right.

2690
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 2: A new sport alert. It's called ultimate Whip fighting. You in,

2691
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 2: how don't we just do it executions?

2692
01:58:58,160 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 7: Right?

2693
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 1: Our white people they can't use whips anymore, so they

2694
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,280
Speaker 1: just use it on each other. Like, what's the story

2695
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 1: is that? Reth dude? Hey, long Isluke.

2696
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 3: Have you heard of these two aussy guys who are

2697
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 3: kind of like their own like jackass, and they do

2698
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 3: these things where they hurt each other for bits, but

2699
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 3: they commonly it's more I one on their Instagram page.

2700
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 3: I I watched like one hundred videos. They commonly hit

2701
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 3: each other with different types of whips.

2702
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 1: Have you seen this?

2703
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 3: I have not, but I am intrigued the end in

2704
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 3: anal or what it ends with these guys whipping the

2705
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 3: fucking flesh off each other. It is so fucked up,

2706
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 3: but it's kind of funny when they howl in pain.

2707
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 1: Anyway, go ahead, all right.

2708
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 2: It's time for your fart of the week.

2709
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 1: What do you think he ate to create?

2710
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 2: That Chernobyl?

2711
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 1: Send him to Elsa.

2712
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:56,880
Speaker 2: Let's party, Luke. Everyone's invited. I hope that's not a

2713
01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 2: problem remodeling.

2714
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 1: That's what you get for partying loudly.

2715
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 2: Okay, old guy? All right, Luke, This next bit was

2716
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 2: me all.

2717
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 3: When I go, when I go to Columbia, you know

2718
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 3: how hard it is for me to like find a

2719
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 3: time when the fucking walls are not thumping.

2720
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's twenty four to seven, Luke.

2721
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 2: This was me all week reacting to the negative comments

2722
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 2: to may Angana joke.

2723
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 1: Okay, what the fuck is the point of this?

2724
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:36,320
Speaker 2: It'll make him tougherly?

2725
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 1: Did it make you tougher? Yeah? Yeah?

2726
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 2: Getting feedbackes, yeah, Luke. Podcast number one for MMA Fighters

2727
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 2: doesn't always go well. You remember Bryce Mitchell.

2728
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 1: On his first episode, Yeah, the Hitler one.

2729
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's Cheweewi's on his ohmena, what are you gonna

2730
02:00:56,440 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 2: do when Drake puts the nine inches in you? The you?

2731
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 1: That's gone?

2732
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:13,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, listen, if you're into reading books, there's an

2733
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 3: alternative to this that's.

2734
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 2: Like nineteen ninety five humor right there, like that would

2735
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 2: be that's not even.

2736
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 1: That's nineteen ninety five humor if you're thirteen years old.

2737
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 2: All right, all right, there we go. H one more

2738
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 2: for you, Luke. Yeah, I'm glad to see that manners

2739
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 2: and gentlemanship has not left us. Watch this. That's the

2740
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:41,920
Speaker 2: ship of the week. Maybe maybe not the best batch

2741
02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 2: we've had.

2742
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's as I hope you have seen that. Yeah,

2743
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 1: that's the uh, that's the C minus. That wasn't your

2744
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 1: best effort.

2745
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 2: That's okay, all right, we're still alive there, Thank you,

2746
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 2: very much for playing and watching. I hope you guys

2747
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:56,320
Speaker 2: are doing well. I don't know what else to say. Really, Oh, dude,

2748
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,839
Speaker 2: Sabu rip the e CW.

2749
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 1: The how did you know this is the pro wrestling guy?

2750
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pro wrestling.

2751
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:03,480
Speaker 1: Did he die?

2752
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 2: Did well? He'd been in horrific help but he just

2753
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 2: had his retirement match at age sixty against Joey Janella

2754
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 2: where he during wrestlming the Weekend where there was like

2755
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 2: barbed wire ropes, like death match, and he put himself

2756
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 2: through hell and then died a few weeks later, like

2757
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 2: a like a.

2758
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 1: Real man did. What was the cause?

2759
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 2: I don't actually know that.

2760
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:24,080
Speaker 1: Is it related to the match? I mean maybe how

2761
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 1: old was he?

2762
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 2: Sixty? I mean, dude, Sabu at his prime. For as

2763
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 2: much as you tune into ECW in the late nineties

2764
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 2: when you got home from the bar drunk and high,

2765
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:38,520
Speaker 2: as much as it was for the just next level

2766
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 2: absurdities sandman, the drinking of the beer, those highlights of

2767
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 2: him doing backflips off the top rope like into the crowd,

2768
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 2: knocking people over happily. It was just some of the

2769
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 2: most insane shit I've ever seen, just death defying, bad assery.

2770
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 1: I will never celebrate his death. That's I'm sorry to

2771
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 1: hear that. Thank you.

2772
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Thank you for the work for the pro wrestling community

2773
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:01,840
Speaker 2: for saying that. Yes, all right, on that note.

2774
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 1: The lead singer of Three Doors Down has stage four cancer.

2775
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 1: Do you see this.

2776
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that too. Yeah, Long Island, Luke,

2777
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:10,840
Speaker 2: thank you for working today. Any other deaths you want

2778
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 2: to report, it's been.

2779
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 1: A pleasure, don't.

2780
02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 6: I don't have any deaths to report. I do want

2781
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 6: to report that Ken has a Ridge wallet though, So.

2782
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken, well colors got there. Yeah that looks like

2783
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 2: prison silver.

2784
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ken's got a Ridge wallet and also illicit narcotics.

2785
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear about that.

2786
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:30,080
Speaker 2: Best sound man in the league, all right, yeah, today,

2787
02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:31,120
Speaker 2: he's more than that.

2788
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's also my dealer.

2789
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:35,800
Speaker 2: Alright, all right, that's the show. I hope you had fun.

2790
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 2: Thank you for playing. That's Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell.

2791
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 2: We'll be back Friday, Friday eleven A.

2792
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 1: There is a good main event this weekend, Morales and Burns. Yes,

2793
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 1: there is good one good anything.

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Speaker 2: Going on in the box.

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Speaker 1: I remember nothing, I'm paying attention to it.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you're married. I forgot for Luke Thomas on BC.

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Speaker 2: We're out of here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, All the Smoke Fight is headed to the Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: This year's International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction weekend in

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Speaker 5: boxing's hometown hannah Stone to New York. It takes place

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Speaker 5: from Thursday, June fifth through Sunday June eight, ending with

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Speaker 5: an annual ceremony immortalizing boxing's all time greats.

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Speaker 17: The International Boxing Hall of Fame are hosting fan events

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Speaker 17: and experiences all week in long. On Friday night, June sixth,

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Speaker 17: Sleted Promotion will present a terrific fight car in association

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Speaker 17: with All the Smoke Fight Live on the Zone from

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Speaker 17: the Turningstone Resort Casino and Ramona, New York, featuring USBA

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Speaker 17: Heavyweight Champion Brandon Moore defending his title against undefeated prospect

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Speaker 17: Stanley Right in the main event, plus a stacked undercard

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Speaker 17: featuring world champion Franchion Foods Dessern and rising prospects JJ

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Speaker 17: Pagan and Develle Smith.

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Speaker 5: Sounds to me, we're gonna have a great fight night,

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Speaker 5: and of course Sunday is ceremony to Inductor Class of.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Legends like Manny pac Man, pak Yao Michael, second to

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Speaker 5: none in Pasmanian Devil Vinnie.

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Speaker 17: Paz joined all the Smoke, Fight and Salted promotion at

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Speaker 17: Turning Stone Resort Casino for this year International Boxing Hall

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Speaker 17: of Fame Induction Weekend.

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Speaker 2: Hey Listen.

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Speaker 5: Visit Turningstone dot com for accommodations and tickets to Fridays

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Speaker 5: fight Night. Visit ib h of dot com for the

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Speaker 5: full Induction weekend schedule