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Speaker 2: My fiance sister begged him for school money, then went

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Speaker 1: Hey, that seems little backwards.

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Speaker 2: My female thirty three fiance male thirty five has a sister,

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Speaker 2: female thirty seven. Let's call her Sarah Okay. To give

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Speaker 2: a bit of context. While growing up, their family was

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Speaker 2: doing very well financially, his dad having a small business.

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Speaker 2: But everything changed when he was about twenty one. His

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Speaker 2: dad got terminal illness and passed away no one year later.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna make a joke about the fire nation attacking.

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Speaker 1: Now that's too sad.

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Speaker 2: Oh the business wasn't doing well and they went bankrupt

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Speaker 2: soon after. By the way, this comes from Electrical Cloud

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Speaker 2: I'm Savannah, I'm Dakota, and we're here to give some

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Speaker 2: good advice in a little goofy way. But we don't

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Speaker 2: have all they ails hurts. We'll only tell you what

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Speaker 2: we would do, so that is no way you would

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Speaker 2: do it. Down in those comments, as Op says, my

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Speaker 2: boyfriend started working right after college and took the financial

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Speaker 2: responsibility for both his mom and sister. This included paying

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Speaker 2: the rent and living expenses. But after he moved away,

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Speaker 2: he started giving them money monthly around thirty percent of

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Speaker 2: his salary. This has been going on for about twelve

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Speaker 2: years already. Dang Sarah never had a real job, and

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Speaker 2: after she got married, she became a stay at home mom,

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Speaker 2: having two boys nine and seven years. Her husband makes

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Speaker 2: enough to support the family's living expenses, but not enough

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Speaker 2: for the lifestyle she was used to. She always has

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Speaker 2: to have the latest gadget's, expensive beauty trends, constantly eating out,

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Speaker 2: and so on. All right, so she's living out of

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Speaker 2: her means. People do that.

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Speaker 1: People do that all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's half of everyone. M M. The

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Speaker 2: problem is that she lives way beyond her means. She

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Speaker 2: doesn't have a job and doesn't plan too and my

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Speaker 2: fiance doesn't help. He keeps sending her money monthly. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: she even asks for more money because she runs out okay.

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Speaker 2: We plan to get married next year. We've been living

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Speaker 2: together for two years, already dating for four, and we

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Speaker 2: the same but once we get married we plan to

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Speaker 2: have shared accounts. Now. I am not sure how to

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Speaker 2: bring this topic to him. I am worried about him

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Speaker 2: constantly giving way to his sister's demands. I am also

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Speaker 2: not comfortable for a substantial part of his pay to

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Speaker 2: go to her. I understand financial support needed for his

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Speaker 2: and how we will be able to, say for a

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Speaker 2: house deposit. I am also not comfortable with him supporting

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Speaker 2: worried about starting a family with someone who has a

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Speaker 2: to you know, make endsley meet whatever, blah blah. But

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Speaker 2: also getting the background off, she's never had a job

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Speaker 2: That's not cool. I like, actually, you're married, ask your husband.

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Speaker 1: His sister's emoch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's notice.

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Speaker 1: He's a little parasite, it.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I think it's commendable that you know

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Speaker 2: that Opie's husband has you know, given them the life

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Speaker 2: an edit here just to clarify some things. Not all

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Speaker 2: his mother and sister equally. I also didn't know the

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Speaker 2: extent of his financial support from the beginning of the relationship.

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Speaker 2: I knew he was helping his family out, but didn't

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Speaker 2: easily taken advantage of. Like many pointed out, money and

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Speaker 2: spending is a sensitive topic on its own, but here

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Speaker 2: I don't want to come off as insensitive or careless

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Speaker 2: but the comments gave me some confidence. Thank you all

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Speaker 2: for the discussion points. I'm writing everything down and trying

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Speaker 2: to prepare for the discussion. We'll update you once we

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Speaker 2: have it. After reading some of the similar stories in

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Speaker 2: the comments, I feel a bit hopeless about this situation.

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Speaker 2: I will try not to set updates or make arrangements

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Speaker 2: and there's an update. Well you know, I think that

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Speaker 2: especially if you plan to share life with this person

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Speaker 2: that's fair and it doesn't have to be an argument.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be you know, like I, you know,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be combative. It could literally just

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Speaker 2: be hey, so what's the situation with our financials? Are

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Speaker 2: we still going to like give your mom and sister stuff?

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Speaker 4: To your dad or their dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's probably not really helping her as much

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Speaker 2: But his response was mainly that he is confident this

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Speaker 2: because he will have to start saving more. He agreed

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Speaker 2: But it's one of your concerns and he needs to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're talking to your sister too, and

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Speaker 4: Of like the nature of y'all's relationship. It's it's way easier.

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Speaker 1: It's really really easy in like a family context to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's been doing it for twelve years now.

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Speaker 2: And then but also when she asks for money, he

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Speaker 1: Well, when you ask him for money, does he give

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Speaker 2: for me. Last month, Sarah asked for more money, saying

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Speaker 2: because it's not fair to you that well, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: because you are going to have separate finances going into it.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is, oh, pee, if this is a

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Speaker 2: deal breaker, that's a deal breaker. You don't have to I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I don't think it should be a deal breaker.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it should unless this is directly impacting

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Speaker 1: your finances in a way that hurts y'all. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it should be a deal breaker, because it is true,

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Speaker 1: if it's his money, he really is able to do

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Speaker 1: going forward with the expectation.

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Speaker 4: Of split finances.

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Speaker 1: But like I would more just approach it from a

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Speaker 1: like this might not be helping you might be enabling

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Speaker 1: You've got it all. You've got it all right now,

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Speaker 4: My birthday was in a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Pre birthday wishes like pedals kissed by dawn. They carry

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Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you're defended. After a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: Am I overreacting? What do I even do? I feel

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00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: like something should be I don't know to who or

439
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: for what, but this does not seem normal.

440
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not normal. This guy has mental issues and

441
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: has this fixation on you and is really weird. I mean,

442
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 2: you're doing all the right things. You're blocking him, you're

443
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: you know, not answering him back, kind of just like

444
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: going about your way and whatnot. There's really nothing else

445
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: you could do besides like fine where he lives and

446
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: go do something about it, I guess, yeah, or like

447
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: file a police report, but like all a.

448
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: Police report, but police can't do anything until the guy's

449
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,719
Speaker 1: literally breaking into your house trying to get you. You

450
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: could try to ignore him, or like do like a

451
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: vigilante justice, which also will end up with you in jail.

452
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't know my I think maybe I would like

453
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 1: find the biggest, hardest, scariest people that I know and

454
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: be like, this guy keeps If this guy keeps bothering

455
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: you, you go like, okay, yeah, meet me here, and then

456
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: you don't go there, and instead, the biggest, hardest, scariest

457
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: people you know go there and they go, hey, if

458
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: you bother her again, you won't know that we're coming,

459
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 1: and that guy will probably stop. Because these people are

460
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: usually weird, sick little cowards. That's what they are. That's

461
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: why they prey on people who they perceive to be

462
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: weaker than them, because they're weird, sick, little demented little cowards.

463
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. They pray on like the people who have like

464
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: big hearts and try to give everyone a chance and

465
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, are very kind, very giving whatever, and you know,

466
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: see the best in everyone and that's me and then

467
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: you can take advantage of it. And then it's by

468
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: like weird people and it's like why uh.

469
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, maybe even like you tell

470
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: the guy you fight fire with fire, you tell the

471
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: guy to go somewhere to meet you up, you don't

472
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: do it you have the biggest, hardest people that you

473
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: know follow him back to wherever he lives. Now they

474
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: know where he lives, so if he bothers you again,

475
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: they can go knock, knock, knock. You need to leave

476
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: her alone because that the stalker getting stalked. The UNO

477
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: reverse card on the stalker. Yeah, I think that guy's

478
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: gonna crap in his pants.

479
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: I agree, outstalk him.

480
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, out to outstalk him. Now there's an update.

481
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I posted this because I genuinely see

482
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: now how it really is serious. As for a few

483
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: of the comments, I want to elaborate on a few things.

484
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: I did report him to Tinder. We were out for

485
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: about six hours. I had a drink while painting, than

486
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: a drink at the Martini bar. I was not intoxicated.

487
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: I realize any amount of booze and driving is unsafe,

488
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: but I was willing to take that chance in order

489
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: to get away from him as quickly as I could. Heck,

490
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: I even kissed him. It's not something I would have

491
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: done in any other circumstance. I have alerted my manager,

492
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: since he knows where I work. It doesn't make sense

493
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: to me either, why he would do this. I was

494
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: confident he was such a good guy until we left.

495
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: It was like his personality completely flipped, which left me

496
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: confused and doubting myself. I realize now, I'm glad it

497
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: happened on the first night. I can't imagine how things

498
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: would have gone if our relationship progressed and he got

499
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Speaker 1: my address. Lastly, for those of you asking, this is

500
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: what he sent me from his work phone after I

501
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: called him out and blocked him. I understand that you've

502
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: blocked me on everything, and I completely respect your need

503
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: to cut me off. No, you don't, because if you did,

504
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: you want to be texting or you sick little freak? Yeah,

505
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: how do you.

506
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: Like say that and not realize that? A wait?

507
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: Because he's deranged, bro. And that's why these people get

508
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: scary is because they're so out of their mind. It's

509
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: like it's you can't be certain what they're gonna do.

510
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: Nobody calls him out.

511
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to intrude or stock you in any way.

512
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: I swear to God. This text is just to express

513
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: how ticularly sorry I am for what happened. I had

514
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: no idea you felt scared or mistreated and learning how

515
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: my actions affected you has shaken me to my core.

516
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: I was at Walmart at the time I read your text,

517
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: and I was stunned. The Walmart employee came over to

518
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: ask if I was even all right. I stood there

519
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: five minutes in shock, unable to move. You are not

520
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: doing yourself any favors Buccaroo Bond's eye.

521
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: That just proves to me that you're psychotic.

522
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an absolutely psycho thing to do. The

523
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: guy at Walmart also thinks you're a psycho. Uh, I'm

524
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna just start talking like this. There was KOULI a

525
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: miscommunication now, yeah, And I take full responsibility for when

526
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: I stood there by your car as you were leaving.

527
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was a normal gesture to ensure you

528
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: drove off safely. But I see now it came across differently,

529
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: and I'm heartbroken that I made you feel trapped or

530
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: held hostage in any way. You're truly the most beautiful

531
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: woman I've met, a sweat at all. I wasn't raised

532
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: to act with bad manners or ill intent. I don't

533
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: expect to reply, and I want you to know I

534
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: won't ever contact you again unless you choose to reach

535
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: out first. I just needed to share this to clear

536
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: my conscience. My deepest apologies. Once again, it is my

537
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: hope to make it.

538
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 4: Right by you.

539
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Seems like a genuine message at first, but considering what

540
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: he did after he sent it makes me think he's

541
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: just they're really good talker, probably how he got me

542
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: to trust him so quickly. Anyways, for those of you

543
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: I've that read all this, thank you. I'm planning on

544
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: reporting it to the police, and if anything else happens,

545
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: I will file an order for protection.

546
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: There is a second update.

547
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: Oh God, what did he do?

548
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: Update two three days later For those of you who

549
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: saw my last post, I thought i'd give another update.

550
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: It got worse.

551
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: I was supposed to go out the other night with

552
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: a friend m to the clubs downtown, relatively around the

553
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: same area we went on that date, and luckily I

554
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: had other plans so I couldn't go. The next morning,

555
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: I wake up to phone calls from that friend that

556
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: went out, telling me to call him.

557
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: As soon as I got up.

558
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: He proceeds to tell me that him and his friend

559
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: were at a bar when he gets tapped on the shoulder.

560
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: He turns around and it's the guy I went on

561
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: the date.

562
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: With.

563
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: He apparently was going around asking people if they knew me.

564
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: Mind you, this man does not live in his city.

565
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: He lives about an hour north of where I am.

566
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: My friend, not realizing who it was at the time,

567
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: said he knew me. This talker proceeds to ask him

568
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: where he can find me or if he knew how

569
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: he could contact me. Obviously, all of his alarms were

570
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: going off. My friend said he didn't know me well

571
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: enough to have any of my information, but asked him why.

572
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: The stalker says, last time we talked, we had a

573
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: miscommunication and I just need to clear things up. I

574
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: just want to talk man, I just want to talk

575
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: to her man. My friend quickly shuts that down, says

576
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: he won't be much help, but that if I wanted

577
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: to talk to him, he's sure I would have reached out.

578
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: He took pictures of him and the friend he was with.

579
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: I immediately called the police, only to find out my

580
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: neighbor I live in a duplex so we share the

581
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: same house, said that last night someone was ringing our

582
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: doorbell at one in the morning. My dad came over

583
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: and installed ring doorbell cameras. The police are patrolling my street.

584
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: They said I have enough to press charges for stalking.

585
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: Thank you for everyone that responded to my last post.

586
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: Without most of those comments, I'm not sure I would

587
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: have realized how serious this was. Since then, my friends

588
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: have apologized and are fully supportive. One of them is

589
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: sleeping with me tonight. And there's a third update.

590
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: That's crazy of him. This is like, I mean, I

591
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: thought the whole like blocking you from your car was

592
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: very scary, but now him like completely stalking you, and

593
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: then him saying I don't need I don't really mean

594
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: to stalk you. It's like, dude, you got like the

595
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: writing's on the wall, that's what you're doing. Like, give

596
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: it a rest.

597
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a third update. Oh man, you should.

598
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: I wish you would have opened the door at one

599
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: am and just unloaded that pepper spray can into his face.

600
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: Two months after the first post, to give a final

601
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: update on my last couple of posts, this is how

602
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: it ended. I am still shocked and trying to wrap

603
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: my head around it. I had originally left out a

604
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: part in my first post. It was already so insanely

605
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: long and it didn't seem relevant at the time. I

606
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: kept out the part where I ran into an acquaintance

607
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: during the first date. I had met this guy one

608
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: other time let's call him, and he was with a girl,

609
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: let's call her Meghan. I met Corey several weeks prior

610
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: at a bar. He was a part of the friend

611
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: group I was with, and I just took him as

612
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: the typical super fun j with a g guy in

613
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: the group. Since then, he had been hitting me up

614
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: almost weekly asking me to hang out. I don't go

615
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: out often, so that combined with being a bit weirded

616
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: out by his persistence, and never met up with him.

617
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: Fast forward to the day I had the date. He

618
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: reached out again asking if we could go to the

619
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Buyer's but I said that I was going on a

620
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: date and would not be available. He asked where we

621
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: planned to be and I told him, not thinking he'd

622
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: actually show up. Later that night, Corey does show up

623
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: to the Martini bar. He introduces me to Megan, but

624
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: then for some reason, they both sit down next to us.

625
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: That's when my date got the phone call. So while

626
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: he was outside, I was with these two people. But

627
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: where it gets strange is Corey was the one I

628
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: was supposed to meet that one night but didn't go.

629
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: He was the one that call tell me that the

630
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: stalker had been going around asking people if they knew me.

631
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: But then Megan comes into the picture. Apparently when they

632
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: ran into mister stalker downtown, the stalker was with a

633
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: guy that Megan would hook up with according to her,

634
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: but didn't know. Well after that night, she all of

635
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: a sudden started sending me messages letting me know how

636
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: brave I am, that she's so sorry this is happening,

637
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: this is.

638
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: So crazy, blah blah blah blah blah, and then.

639
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Sending screenshots of her friend asking about me. She even

640
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: sent screenshots of him asking her to set me up

641
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: so the stalker could come talk to me, but she

642
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: insisted she trusted this friend. It felt off and something

643
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: was weird. Where do you live? So I know to

644
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: never go there? Wow?

645
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: What is this like scheme of like stalkers, Like they

646
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: all want to like hang out with you and BEU.

647
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't understand what is happening now.

648
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: At one point she did ask me to come hang

649
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: out with her and Corey, but she would say they'd

650
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: keep me safe and nothing would happen. Let's just have

651
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: a fun night and get our mind off at No, No,

652
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: this is weird.

653
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: At first, a.

654
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Part of me was thankful I had them looking out

655
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: and sending me this warnings or having insight. But then

656
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like a switch flipped in

657
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: my brain and I had this super weird gut feeling

658
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: that they were involved somehow. But it was like my

659
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: reality shifted. I realized every single thing that had to

660
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: do with this stalker loop directly back to them. They

661
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: were involved in every moment, but I never ended up

662
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: hanging out with either Corey or Omegan, despite their continued persistence.

663
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: Trigger warning for extreme stalking. I don't know this tree.

664
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: This story will make you not trust the people around you. Yeah,

665
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: it's weird. Let's just finish this off, please. I think

666
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: all of my genuine advice for this story would be illegal,

667
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna give it.

668
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: You could just fill in the blanks.

669
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just have someone with you at all times, truthfully,

670
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: someone with you at all times that you trust, and

671
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: then also like you know, getting the police involved and

672
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: having them like survey your street or whatever, you know,

673
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: giving his information and stuff and having him like under surveillance.

674
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, m m mmmm mmm.

675
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: I eventually called the police and filed a report. They

676
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: found him and told him if he reaches out ever

677
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: again to me or any of my friends define me,

678
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: he'd be arrested and served with a restraining order. From

679
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: that day, I literally never heard from him, Corey or

680
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Megan again. A few family members think they were just

681
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: mixed in and we're innocent, but my friends think it

682
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: was more sinister. With all that said, I'm okay. I'm

683
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: safe and a lot more careful when it comes to

684
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: dating or meeting new people, which I don't plan on

685
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: doing again anytime soon. And that is the end of

686
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: that story.

687
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: Man.

688
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: I hate that.

689
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: I know, it's so sad because you're just like a

690
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: genuine person just trying to have a human connection and

691
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: then like you get this freak the capital F freak.

692
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's like it's like a freak calasagna

693
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: because it turns out it's also Corey and Meghan who

694
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: are somehow perpetuating this thing. But it's like we, I

695
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: don't know, none of this makes any sense. What did this?

696
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: What?

697
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: What was the point of any of this?

698
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

699
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: From their perspective, like what like they.

700
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: Got to get these two together? It'll be great, Like, was.

701
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Corey mad that you didn't want to hang out? So

702
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: he was like, Oh, I know, I'll set her up

703
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: with this unstable freak of a guy that I know.

704
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

705
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 4: This is weird.

706
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: It's all weird.

707
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know the whole thing with Corey

708
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: and Meghan, but I do know that the other guy

709
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: is weird. And I'm glad that he's freaking done and

710
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: gone and like, but that's the thing, that he's just

711
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: gonna do it to someone else. Like this guy actually

712
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: needs like mental help, Like he needs to go. He

713
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: has an illness that is not recognized by him, and

714
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: he needs to go get help.

715
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I guess she's Louise.

716
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to

717
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: the next one. Hey, this is Riley, your's favorite Southern bill.

718
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to these stories. But here's three

719
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: minutes worth of ads from her sponsors. My mother in

720
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: law plauded to steal my baby, so I ran away

721
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: to give birth.

722
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: Did you run into the woods?

723
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: Would baby? I twenty three female and my new husband,

724
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: twenty five male, have been together for four years, married

725
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: for two and we were expecting our first child. My

726
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: relationship with my mother in law was never amazing, but

727
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: before this, she always kept to herself and so did I.

728
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: And for the record, my relationship with my husband's father

729
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: and brother was always really good. When I got pregnant,

730
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: I told my husband that I wanted to keep it

731
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: a secret for at least the three month mark because

732
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: I thought that anything could affect me and my pregnancy.

733
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: He totally agreed and even said it would be a

734
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: cool little secret. Two days after I told him, I

735
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: got a text from my mother in law saying she

736
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: knew it was a girl and that it was selfish

737
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: of me to keep the news of her baby girl

738
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: away from her and her family. Just for the record,

739
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: I was like four weeks pregnant at that point, so

740
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I had no idea about if it was a boy

741
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: or a girl. So I don't know where that came from.

742
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: It's because she's crazy.

743
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: She knows Curly Pop.

744
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: By the way, this come from Ruined Birth Throwaway. Nice

745
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

746
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Speaker 1: to the r slash Shoka story. I'm subwured at, I'm Dakota,

747
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm soa and we're gonna talk about this birth Woodbirth,

748
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: m wood Birth. We're gonna have our thoughts, We're gonna

749
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: have our opinions, and you can have your own as

750
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: well down in the comments and we can read them

751
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: and op says. I confronted my husband, to which he replied,

752
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: you were not expecting me to hide this from my mom, right,

753
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: she deserves to know it's my child too. I was

754
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: furious and didn't talk with him for around a week

755
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: after this. Needless to say, in the week after this incident,

756
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: everyone already knew I was pregnant, and people were even

757
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: mad at me for wanting privacy on this. Then all

758
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: the shenanigans from mother in law started. At around four months,

759
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: my husband and I went to visit my family and

760
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: left my mother in law responsible for watering the plants.

761
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: When we came back, a whole nursery was made all

762
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: pink with the name Olga Bertha painted on the wall.

763
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: What is that a threat? What's that feed?

764
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: She's trying to manifest that your daughter, your potential maybe daughter,

765
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: maybe son. It's gonna be like a Eastern European battle maiden.

766
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: My name is Olda Bertha. I am seven feet tall,

767
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. I wheel a battle mace the size

768
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: of a small man, and I can.

769
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 4: Crush you in a single blow.

770
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Okay, keep in mind that we still had no idea

771
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: about the gender, and of course this was an extreme

772
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: privacy violation. I had a harsh conversation with her, She cried,

773
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: and my husband was then mad because I was mean

774
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: you his mommy. But this was just the beginning of

775
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: the Shenanigan reed. She was sending me articles every day

776
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: about the bad effects of working out during pregnancy, criticizing

777
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: what I had for each meal. Started crying because I

778
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: want to exclusively breastfeed. She literally said, feeding my baby

779
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: is a critical bonding moment. You're stealing that for me.

780
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: Hmm, not your baby.

781
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: Hmmm, not your baby, Olga Bertha. I'm just start I'm

782
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: just gonna start calling mother in law ogabertha.

783
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: Not your baby, Ogabertha.

784
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: Hey, Olga Bertha, go crawl back into your whole oga Bertha.

785
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: No, it's your baby, Ogabertha.

786
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: And then the delivery room. To sum it up, she

787
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: wanted to be there. I said, no, I only wanted

788
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: my husband there. She seemed a little hurt, but never

789
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: talked about that again until my husband was showering and

790
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: a message from her popped up. We had a lunch

791
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: date on that day, so I assumed it was the

792
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: location and opened it just to find hundreds of messages

793
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: of their plan on how she would get in the

794
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: delivery room when I was too tired to argue to

795
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: see her baby being born.

796
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: What ew freak, Just leave alone. You'll see the baby later.

797
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: Why do you have to see it be born? Like, oh,

798
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 2: you have to be in the delivery room, I gotta

799
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: see it come out now you don't, and they don't

800
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: actually don't let anyone else in, but like the significant other,

801
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: so freak, it's not like a show.

802
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 1: I cried lot when I was alone. I'm not gonna

803
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: lie to you, guys. But then I made peace with it.

804
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: On that Monday, I told him I was going to

805
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: spend some days with my parents and if something happened,

806
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: I would tell him. I drove from North Carolina to Florida,

807
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: where my family is, got into labor, and gave birth

808
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: with my mom and two sisters in the room, to

809
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: a healthy baby boy without my husband's knowledge. Now on

810
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: to the present, my son is now two weeks old,

811
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: and I finally told my husband what I did. He

812
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: is driving down here and yelled at me for giving

813
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: birth without telling him and for not including him on

814
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: the birth certificate or name choice.

815
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: Whoa wait, she didn't put him on the birth certificate.

816
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: That's a little weird.

817
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, why don't you just go have a baby

818
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: with Olga Bertha Man your mommy?

819
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I understand why you like didn't

820
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: tell him about the birth and all this stuff, but

821
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: not putting him on the birth certificate is kind of weird.

822
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: And also if this is your first child and you

823
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: like made him miss that, like that's kind of a

824
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: holy But I understand like why you did it, but

825
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. You gotta think of it from his

826
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: point of view.

827
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Lee believe that he needs to be

828
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: on there, but I don't know.

829
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is he not? Is there like a reason

830
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: he's not.

831
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Good job not letting him have a name choice though,

832
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 1: because olda Bertha slaps you know it a strong name wrong.

833
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: So he keeps saying that he and his mom will

834
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: assue me. Am I the a hole for running away

835
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: to give birth. There's an edit. I'm gonna say no,

836
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: it's hard. I'm gonna say no.

837
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: That was actually really cool.

838
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Ah, And he's clearly not a great partner. If you're

839
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: like super pregnant and you're like, yeah, I'm I'm gonna

840
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: go on a trip all by myself. Nothing old, don't worry,

841
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: and he's not like, well, I'm gonna make sure you're

842
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: okay because you could give birth at any second, so

843
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: I want to make sure i'm with you to support you.

844
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: What is that drive time North Carolina to Florida?

845
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: Like four and a half five hours?

846
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: Wan, I'm looking it up. Spot in North Carolina?

847
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: Uh, depends on where in Florida.

848
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: I guess Outer.

849
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: Banks, North Carolina, all the way to I don't know,

850
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Tampa Banks.

851
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 4: I guess that's fair. And that's probably more like five.

852
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: And a half six Florida. We're in Florida, Tampa, Ampa, Florida.

853
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: I was thinking more like Objectionville.

854
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, it seems like it's like an eight let's

855
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 5: say maybe eight minimum hour drive.

856
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

857
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: It was called twelve, we're called twelve.

858
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: Well eight to twelve.

859
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 5: My point is just like, regardless, eight to twelve, it's

860
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: insane to be okay with your pregnant wife driving alone

861
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 5: eight to twelve hours.

862
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: When she's literally about to pop about to pop. Yeah,

863
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: so I think you did the right thing. 'pee looked

864
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: out for yourself and your baby.

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00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 4: We haven't edit here.

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00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: Seems to be a lot of comments about the name

867
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: in the nursery. Olga Bertha was not what was written,

868
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: but close enough. Olga is the fake version of my

869
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: mother in law's name in Bertha of my mother in

870
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: law's mother. About the two weeks of not telling him,

871
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: we were not on good terms, just texting, so it

872
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: was not hard to hide, honestly. And there's an update. Yeah,

873
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: they are going to sue you for rights to uh

874
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: like legal parent.

875
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: Should we can do that?

876
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's your kid and you were left off

877
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: the birth certificate like you legally can, I'm sure like

878
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: sue for that, and that's going to be a whole

879
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: terrible process. But the last forty eight hours were the

880
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: most insane I've ever had, honestly. So back where we

881
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: left off. My husband arrived yesterday afternoon. Can you guess

882
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: who also came? Yes, Oga, Bertha his mother. Nothing I

883
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: wasn't already expecting, but it's always surprising. I guess when

884
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: the car pulled up, my mother in law was the

885
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: first to come out. They both got in. My child

886
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: was in my bedroom in my parents' house with my

887
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: sister and mother, and in the living room where my

888
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: brother's dad, me and them. The first thing that came

889
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: out of mother in law's mouth was quit the bs.

890
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: My baby is a girl right again? Not yours, ugh,

891
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: miss Bertha. I said that my baby is boy. My

892
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: family confirmed. My mother in law's face completely changed. She

893
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: started crying, saying that this one was meant to be

894
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: a girl, and if she knew I would give her

895
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: another boy, she wouldn't have been so nice to me.

896
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: What nicey nice?

897
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really nice.

898
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: That's crazy to say. I would I I wouldn't have

899
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: been so nice to you if I have known that

900
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 2: you were having a boy, ugh.

901
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 4: Olga Bertha.

902
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: You know they moved differently in Olga Bertha's town, Oldgabertha

903
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: esteem for contacts. My husband has one brother only, and

904
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: he's already done having kids.

905
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: He has three boys.

906
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I told her to go ef herself, dude, this child

907
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: is mine, not hers, and I surely didn't have a

908
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: baby so she could fulfill her weird desires. She was

909
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: about to raise her voice, but my brother stopped her

910
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: and told her that it wouldn't be accepted in this

911
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: house and asked her to leave and wait for my

912
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: husband in the car. Yes, after she found out the gender.

913
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: She didn't even ask to see him. She left, giving

914
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: me dirty looks, but left all the same. My husband

915
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: looked at me and asked me how I could rob

916
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: this moment from him. I would have just been like,

917
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: did you see what your mom just did? Are you

918
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: literally insane?

919
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: The fact that the first thing she says to her

920
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: is that and then has a whole breakdown of like

921
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: it's not it's a boy?

922
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: Oh, like that should be your first tell Yeah, I

923
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: don't even know if how how could you do this

924
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: to me? I wouldn't even say a word. I'd open

925
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: the front door and I would just point at his

926
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: mom be like, that's how that thing, the thing in

927
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: the car over there, that thing, that old gabertha, as

928
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: you can imagine, I replied, with the plan they had,

929
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, you also conspired against me with

930
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: that thing in the car.

931
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

932
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: He turned pale, and then I think it all clicked

933
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: together in his little brain. He started apologizing and said

934
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: it was just to shush his mom, and he would

935
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: never actually do it. But after being pressured a little,

936
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: his speech changed too. But but but I'm also going

937
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: through a lot in the delivery room.

938
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: I need support exactly because you asked like you wouldn't

939
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: do that, and this was your whole plan all along

940
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: to do it, So don't actually, well, I was just

941
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: entertaining her, so, like you know, she just wouldn't be bad.

942
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: Came am this boy.

943
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: My whole family started laughing in his face. He got

944
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: angry and demanded to know my son's name and see him.

945
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: I told him the name and allowed him to see

946
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: him from far. He asked to hold him, and I declined.

947
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: After this, I talked alone with him and told him

948
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: that I wanted a divorce. He cried, pleaded, and asked

949
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: for another chance. I told him my decision was final

950
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: and that he didn't have to financially support my child,

951
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: but that our marriage was over. I asked him to

952
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: come around the next day so we can discuss this better.

953
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Then he came. His eyes were puffy, I'm guessing from crying,

954
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: and he and his mom came here. She looked at

955
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: my husband and said out loud that he should give

956
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: me the divorce and forget about this kid since it

957
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: was a boy.

958
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what's wrong with her?

959
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: Should find a woman that would give him a girl. Finally,

960
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I saw that dude get a little bit of a backbone,

961
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: and he told her to get out, that she had

962
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: already ruined this enough. She yelled as expected and left. Congratulations,

963
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: have fun raising this child with your family, and you know,

964
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: maybe one day the father will stop being a pathetic,

965
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: sniveling little worm creature and uh, you know, really like

966
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: be able to maybe co parent a little bit.

967
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, I doubt it.

968
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I think the I don't

969
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: think it's gonna work out, because the mam or the

970
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: mother in law is just going to be like in

971
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: his ear the whole time, be like a me me me, me,

972
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: me me, like.

973
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: Oh, she's just a little robot piloted by Olga Bertha.

974
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: I would just no, no, no, no, no no.

975
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

976
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: All right. He cried and told me he finally understood

977
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: the kind of harm his mom was doing to our

978
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: family and told me that if I needed him to

979
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: go no contact with her to save our marriage, he would.

980
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I told him that I needed time to think and

981
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: told him to give me some days. He's returning to

982
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: no contact and in about a week he will come

983
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: down again, so we can talk now. I know what

984
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: he did was horrible, but being a single mom at

985
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: twenty three is not ideal. And whether I like it

986
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: or not, I still feel something for this man. Any

987
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: opinions and recommendations are welcome, and that is the end

988
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: of that story.

989
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: Sang, I mean, I don't know he can. If he

990
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: shows the effort of trying to make amends with you,

991
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: then okay, yeah, but just know that he like it's

992
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: probably gonna come at the expense of like he can't

993
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: contact his mom or has to be very low contact

994
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: with his mom when she's toalic.

995
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: I'll say that the cheapest currency on earth is talk,

996
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: and all he's done is talked. So don't get back

997
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: to Taki Taki. He's still going to.

998
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: Be the dad.

999
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: Just you know, if he wants to co parent, he

1000
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: can co parent. But I don't think you should be

1001
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: in any rush to get back together.

1002
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: With this guy.

1003
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: I think if he's really serious about what he says,

1004
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: it won't matter if it's in a year or in

1005
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: two years or whenever.

1006
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: Oh, there's an update. There's an update.

1007
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 5: It's not super long. It's basically, yeah, I can just

1008
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 5: give you a summary. It says, I, twenty three female,

1009
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: want to give another chance to my husband, twenty five male,

1010
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 5: and then it basically says that husband left Florida. I

1011
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 5: went back to the apartment and was upset, and then

1012
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 5: they wanted to talk about it. So he came to talk,

1013
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 5: and he talked to his mom and called her out

1014
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 5: for her behavior, and he went completely no contact wit did.

1015
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: You say that part? Was that update?

1016
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: Red?

1017
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 5: No no contact at all forever? Besides extreme medical emergencies,

1018
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 5: individual therapy for both of us, and couples counseling. He's

1019
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: moving to Florida and he's taking care of all the

1020
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 5: moving and that's pretty big.

1021
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: I think that's step in the right direction. Truthfully. I

1022
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: think if you were willing to do that for our family,

1023
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: then okay, I will give you a second chance. But

1024
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: this is second and last chance, just so you know,

1025
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: don't screw it up again.

1026
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, because little Rob's gonna come.

1027
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 2: A Little Rob's gonna get out of your life like that, Roberto.

1028
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to

1029
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: the next one. Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite rat brain

1030
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: host here, and we're gonna get back to the stories soon.

1031
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,440
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1032
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: I had an affair with a coworker, but my wife

1033
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: was three steps ahead the whole time.

1034
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Does that mean that she already was married and had

1035
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: kids with her own affair partner.

1036
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: I am a thirty four male and have been married

1037
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: for almost nine years. We have a thirteen month old son.

1038
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: My wife is my best friend, and we are still

1039
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: having spicy sleep, though not as frequently as before the baby.

1040
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: I sometimes feel like we are roommates co parenting. Admittedly,

1041
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: I have not taken to fatherhood in the way I

1042
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: was hoping, and a lot of parenting tasks fall on

1043
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: my wife.

1044
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: What is that?

1045
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 4: What does that even mean?

1046
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: Seven weeks ago I started an affair with a married

1047
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: co worker who has three kids. First affair for both.

1048
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: This coworker is well liked and I find you're attractive.

1049
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: She started paying me extra attention, coming into my office

1050
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: regularly hugging me before I left for the day. I

1051
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: invited her to walk together on lunch and she took

1052
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: me up on it. That day. During these walks, she

1053
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: would mostly vent about her home life troubles with her

1054
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: kids and husband. She would tell me how nice and

1055
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: sweet I was for listening to her. She made me

1056
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: feel really good. I also liked that a lot of

1057
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: people seemingly like her, and here she was paying attention

1058
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: to me. She would grab my hand during these walks.

1059
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Due Improvement eighty three

1060
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1061
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1062
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Speaker 1: I'm Savannah, I'm Dakota, I'm.

1063
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: Sophia, and we're here to talk about some stuff, maybe

1064
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: say some stuff that you might find funny. But guess what,

1065
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: we don't have all the answers. I tell you what

1066
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: we would do, but let us know what you would

1067
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: do down in the commons. Yeah, as Hopie says. The

1068
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: following Monday, she worked, I did not. I asked if

1069
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: she still wanted to meet up to walk. She did,

1070
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: and I kissed her at the end of the walk.

1071
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you're an idiot, Like whatever.

1072
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: It's been full throttle since then. After I kissed her,

1073
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: we had spicy sleep for the first time. Three days later,

1074
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: we have been having spicy sleep during lunch breaks at

1075
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: work and when we are not working, I make up

1076
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: elaborate stories to see her, like helping my brother hang

1077
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: at TV.

1078
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: It's not even elaborate. That's like a that's one thing.

1079
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: It's not even elaborate. You don't even know what the

1080
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: word elaborate means.

1081
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: It's all been very intense. Two weeks after we started

1082
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: being together, she would drop weird things like I'm in

1083
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: love with a married man. She asked that I not

1084
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: refer to my wife as my wife because it is

1085
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: super triggering for her, and then it makes it sound

1086
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: like she is the side piece.

1087
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: I have a crazy bit of news for you, girly Pop.

1088
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: You are a piece on the side. Get triggered. Get triggered, girl, like, what.

1089
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: Could you please not refer to your wife as your wife?

1090
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: It triggers me as your side piece. It triggers me

1091
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: like what what are you asking me to do right now?

1092
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: Do you hear yourself?

1093
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1094
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: She is very against using an app to communicate because

1095
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: that screams affair, but we do, and she complains about

1096
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: it often. I have an idea, why don't we just

1097
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: not have an affair? Why don't we just, I don't know,

1098
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: not try to ruin our lives. That's too logical. Call

1099
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: me crazy, but this could just be a work crush

1100
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: that you just find attractive and never pursued. But instead

1101
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: you went after her and kissed her and ad spicy

1102
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: sleep three days later, I mean, come on. A week

1103
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 2: after having spicy sleep for the first time, she found

1104
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: a conference for me to go to so we could

1105
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: spend actual time together for three nights. We went. After

1106
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: being together for four weeks. It was a disaster. She

1107
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: was drinking and smoking cigarettes the entire time. One night,

1108
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: my wife called to say good night, so I stepped

1109
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: away to take the call. When I did so, a

1110
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 2: fair partner stormed off and I came back to find

1111
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: a pee talking to some dude at the bar. That

1112
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: same night, she messaged me on regular Imassage instead of

1113
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: the usual app we use because she forgot. She told

1114
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: me she loved me on this trip and I set

1115
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: it back, though I do not think that is true. Oki,

1116
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: what are you doing?

1117
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 4: Op? Is a lizard person?

1118
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: OHP's like yeah, No, I said, I love you to

1119
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: the girl who's clearly all the way mentally unstable and

1120
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: uh Yeah, No, I don't see any problem with any

1121
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: of this. I think everything's gonna come up, daisies coming up, roses.

1122
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: You did it to yourself. I don't feel bad for

1123
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: you at all, Opie. Uh. I love the way she

1124
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 2: makes me feel, and definitely love having spicy sleep with her.

1125
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: Bro she's going to make you into a lamp if

1126
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: you're not careful. How's that gonna feel.

1127
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: On the way back from the trip, she kept going

1128
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: on about how I have to promise I will never

1129
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: leave her for my wife. When she got back into town,

1130
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 2: she almost forgot one of her scarves in my car,

1131
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: but I caught it before she shut the door. Yeah,

1132
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: she almost forgot. Yeah, she wants. It's so funny that

1133
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: this girl is actually like betting on your demise.

1134
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: She's like, she's trying to make it out.

1135
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: Don't tell your white don't talk about your wife, blah

1136
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: blah blah, leaves scarf in the car. Oh, oops, I forgot,

1137
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: texts you on I message. Oops, I forgot. She's trying

1138
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: to ruin your life. But also let her because that's

1139
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: what you get.

1140
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1141
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: Additionally, I found one of her lips in the door

1142
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: of my car that she had forgotten later on. She's

1143
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: trying to get caught since getting back from the trip

1144
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: two weeks ago. It is like gasoline has been put

1145
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: on the fire. She needs a lot of reassurance and

1146
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: constant validation. If I am not at work with her,

1147
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: we message all the time. If I don't reply to

1148
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: her quickly, she goes on about how I'm just leaving

1149
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 2: her for my wife, and she can take a hint.

1150
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 2: She has made statements like, you're probably still sleeping next

1151
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: to your wife. I am. You don't let your wife

1152
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: see you in clothed, do you? I do things of

1153
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: this sort? Yeah, they are married. They are married. You

1154
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: guys are not.

1155
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: At this point. For the safety of me and all

1156
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: of those around me. If I'm ope, I go to

1157
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: my family, I'm like, guys, wouldn't it be fun if

1158
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: we just moved all the way across the country and

1159
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: didn't tell anybody that we knew about it for no

1160
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: reason in particular. Right, that's so impulsive and quirky. Uh yeah,

1161
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great? We're doing it.

1162
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: I sold our house, we move tomorrow. Yeah.

1163
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: She has said that it's very important to see her

1164
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: every day, So I'm not making up crazy excuses to

1165
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: get out of the house to see her. My wife

1166
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: is starting to ask questions, are you feeling okay? You've

1167
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: been in the bathroom a lot lately? Why didn't you

1168
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: dump the coffee I made just to go buy some

1169
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: and not drink it? Why did it take so long

1170
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: to go to the store. She has also complained that

1171
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: I have been really disconnected and not present while home.

1172
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: My fair partner's husband apparently saw our messages. She told

1173
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: him everything except who, and he is planning to move out.

1174
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: Since then, A fair partner has been pressuring me to

1175
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: leave my wife so we can be together for real. Oh,

1176
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: I thought you guys were together for real. I thought

1177
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: you guys were married. Actually, and she's the side piece.

1178
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: His wife, who he married, is the side piece? Correct?

1179
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: Did I get that wrong? Or what?

1180
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move into the ocean. I'm gonna be an

1181
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: ocean man. Now I'm taking work on a crab boat.

1182
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm a crab man. Now I'm on a crab boat.

1183
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: Can't reach me. I'm crab boating.

1184
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: I have never said I wanted to do this, but

1185
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: I have gone along with some serious declarations of true love.

1186
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: Never feeling like this about anyone, and nothing could be

1187
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: more perfect than her and what we have. A fair

1188
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: partner keeps saying things like, it'll be six months from

1189
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: now and you still won't have left your wife. The

1190
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: thing is, I never wanted to leave my wife, but

1191
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: since getting back from our trip, things have been so

1192
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: intense and quite frankly, I've been an a hole to

1193
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: my wife. Then she gets upset and I'm like, maybe

1194
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: I do want to leave my wife. All we do

1195
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: is fight. We have started to have some serious conversations

1196
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: about separation, and she is genuinely very concerned about me

1197
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: and where this is coming from, and is crying a

1198
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: lot about how our marriage and family is worth fighting

1199
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 2: for and I can't just give up our last conversation,

1200
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: she told me that she wouldn't hear the word divorce

1201
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: until we actually tried that the first time she is

1202
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: hearing about a problem, she is also hearing about a divorce,

1203
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: and she wouldn't allow that to be how our family ends.

1204
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: I tell my affair partner some select parts of these

1205
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: conversations to get her off my back so she can see, like, see,

1206
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: things aren't so great at my house either. A fair

1207
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: partner paints a really nice picture of what being together

1208
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 2: for real would look like. That I would still see

1209
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: my son fifty percent of the time when she had

1210
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: her children, though she has two different fathers for her kids,

1211
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: and my son is still breastfed and has literally never

1212
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: not been without my wife except for the odd appointment

1213
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: here and there, and I would have him and when

1214
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: we didn't have our kids, we could just be together

1215
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: doing whatever we wanted. A fair partner thinks I should

1216
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: just tell my wife the truth and that after some

1217
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: time my wife will be okay with it and we

1218
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: can all get along. A fair partner does not know

1219
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: my wife. My wife would co parent amicably because she

1220
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: is a really good mom and that would be what

1221
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: was best for our son. But it would be a

1222
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: cold day and the heck before she lets Apete sit

1223
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: at her table if she knew the actual start of

1224
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: our relationship. My wife is also not stupid.

1225
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that you know what they say, opposites attract because

1226
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: you are not very smart.

1227
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: My guy, I just don't know what to do. Something

1228
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: is going to give if I don't make some serious choices.

1229
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: A fair partner is laying on the pressure, and wife

1230
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: is asking me to keep trying if she isn't suspicious yet,

1231
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: she will be soon. She has asked if there was

1232
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: someone else, but seemed to drop it. Oh, so you're

1233
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: in the clear now, everything's good. She asked it and

1234
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: then just didn't want an answer. So we're good. The

1235
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: wife was like, is there someone else that'd be the what.

1236
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: He's just like, what does that even mean? You mean, like, yeah,

1237
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: there's people, there's of course there's someone else. There's like

1238
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: we have neighbors, Like there's a silly there's other people

1239
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: in the world, silly billy.

1240
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: So what is it? Reddit? Is my life about to explode?

1241
00:58:59,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Yes?

1242
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: If it hasn't, I think it already has. You're just

1243
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: trying not to think about it and pushing things off

1244
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: and guess what, it's just gonna keep happening because this

1245
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: doesn't just go away.

1246
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: I think, Uh, I don't know. I want to put

1247
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: you on an island. You should just get Tom Hanks

1248
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: castawaid for real. Just go be on an island, bro,

1249
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: Just live on the island. M It's island living for

1250
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: you from now on.

1251
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: Well, guys, there is an update. Divorce finalize today six

1252
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: months later.

1253
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: Good for your wife, your ex wife? Yes, I hope

1254
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 6: you have the worst time ever with your new partner.

1255
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: Well, guys, there is an update. Divorce finalize today six

1256
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: months later.

1257
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Good for your wife, your ex wife. Yes, I hope

1258
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: you have the worst time ever with your new partner.

1259
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: About six months ago I came to the sub looking

1260
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: for explanations of these reckless and intense feelings I was

1261
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: having for my then a fair partner of six weeks.

1262
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: Her and I were mirroring each other, love bombing, future

1263
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: faking the whole lot. Dopamine rush felt so good. I

1264
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: thought maybe I could feel like that all the time.

1265
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I should pursue these feelings out into the real world.

1266
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: This sub dragged me pretty hard, and I was deserving

1267
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: of it. Many people made predictions of how it would

1268
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 2: all explode, That ap was crazy, that I was going

1269
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: to get caught, then I was an idiot. All of

1270
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: these true. While I was off in some fantasy world

1271
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: thinking how wonderful it would be to be with this

1272
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: person who seemed utterly obsessed with me, my now ex

1273
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: wife was getting all her ducks in a row and

1274
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: presented me with divorce papers a few days following my post. Wow,

1275
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: she was onto you. She actually like, that's actually funny.

1276
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: She made you feel bad to be like, no, you

1277
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: can't like give this up all this stuff, but was

1278
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: gonna serve you anyway.

1279
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guarantee you this guy had an iPad

1280
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: at home. This guy just had an iPad at home.

1281
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Alerts on full volume. And that woman sent and it's

1282
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: like Siri had it on dictation mode and just read out.

1283
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 7: Like I'm so glad that we banged all weekend. You

1284
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 7: love me, right, you love that I love you like

1285
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 7: you love me. Don't ever tell your wife about what

1286
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 7: we did.

1287
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: My wife discovered my affair two weeks before she served

1288
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: me papers. She found out on her own. She was

1289
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: playing chess while I was playing checkers? Is this this?

1290
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: You're playing tiktacs home? This guy's horrible. Many here suspected

1291
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: that my affair partner was going to blow it all

1292
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: up and tell my wife, And if more time had passed,

1293
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: I think she would have. I later discovered a lipstick

1294
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: and hair holder in my car that she left behind,

1295
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 2: and she called me on my phone number one night

1296
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: because she forgot we were using the though we had

1297
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: never talked outside of it before. So yes, it was

1298
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: only a matter of time. The fallout and aftermath was

1299
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: pretty gruesome, and I knew immediately that I was going

1300
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: to try to reconcile with my wife. AP thought that

1301
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: since my wife found out that her and I were

1302
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: going to be together when I informed her otherwise. The

1303
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: next day, she was late for her period.

1304
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

1305
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: Of course, she later told me it was not true.

1306
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: I do not know what story is true here. I

1307
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: do know that her husband was in contact with my wife,

1308
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: and he told my wife that he suspected she was

1309
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: intentionally trying to get me pregnant, as he saw her

1310
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: birth control and apparently hadn't been taking it for weeks.

1311
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: This girl's crazy. Ew Oh my gosh. So she she

1312
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: was like planning this. There were so many different plans

1313
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: on the side. I'm glad both like actual like partners,

1314
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: like faithful partners ganged up on these two because yikes.

1315
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: I keep going back to the she was playing chess.

1316
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 4: I was playing checkers.

1317
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: Nah, man, you were not even playing checkers. You were

1318
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: like taking like blocks and just like trying to put

1319
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: them like into the holes that they're shaped, and you

1320
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: didn't get one of them. She was playing chess. You

1321
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: were guzzling Elmer's glue. Like it was just sweet, sweet

1322
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: nectar of the gods and boyle boy, did you ask

1323
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: for seconds and thirds? She was playing chess? You were you.

1324
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 5: What?

1325
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: I can't say that one go ahead.

1326
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 2: He also told my wife that when he saw this

1327
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: after discovery, she took a test in front of him

1328
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: and it was negative. Ap was very unhappy with the

1329
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: way everything shook out, And to be fair, I told

1330
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: her I wanted to be with her. I just didn't

1331
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: think it would actually ever be a check I had

1332
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: to cash. This guy is terrible. He's feeding into everyone.

1333
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, I want to do that, I

1334
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: want to do I don't want to do that, and

1335
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: then does nothing and it is like, eh, I don't

1336
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: know why you thought that, because you're an idiot.

1337
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: We gotta get this guy. We gotta study this guy's brain.

1338
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: He's gotta be a different thing altogether, right Like this

1339
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: is We're gonna we're gonna put him in the MRI

1340
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: machine and it's gonna be like a little man on

1341
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: his head piloting him around. There's a little one inch

1342
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: man in there, and he's just like a space alien.

1343
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: And he's like, I just wanted to tell what it

1344
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: was like to be to be a human.

1345
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 4: And it's like, you did it all wrong, buddy.

1346
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: Don't humans cheat on the wives.

1347
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: He did it all wrong.

1348
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: There was a lot of drama. Work got involved and

1349
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: AP was fired. She had some fireable behavior happening, and

1350
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: it is my belief that when her husband called HR

1351
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: to report the affair, in the investigation, the fireable offenses

1352
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: came to light and Work decided to make the problem

1353
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: go away by that reasoning. Also, I would like to

1354
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: make note that AP told on herself to her husband.

1355
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: She said she wanted a clean break and told him

1356
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: everything right down to my wife's address.

1357
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: She wants to clean break aka cheating on your husband

1358
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: for six weeks and then telling him about it while

1359
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: trying to get pregnant. That's so clean.

1360
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: She wanted to get caught so that someone else, like

1361
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: would like so that OP could take all the blame.

1362
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: But like it takes two.

1363
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: No, she didn't know. She wanted to get caught, and

1364
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: she wanted OP to get caught so that they could

1365
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: just beat together. Yeah, she just wanted to make his

1366
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: marriage and so that they could be married. Because she's

1367
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: a psycho insane person.

1368
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: AP could have wrote off scratch free with him none

1369
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: the wiser. I wasn't going to tell him, and my

1370
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: wife had decided against it because she wanted me safe

1371
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: and my job safe, stating, angry people make angry decisions.

1372
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 2: He later reached out to my wife just to make

1373
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: her aware. Anyway, my wife gave me one chance at

1374
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: reconciliation with very clear boundaries and guidelines, and I squandered

1375
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: it away. Of course you did.

1376
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: Why do I feel like she's like Frankens, Like she's

1377
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: doctor Frankenstein. You're her monster, Like she made you. That's

1378
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: the only reason anyone would giet you, Like you're legitimately

1379
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: a science project. She like grew you out of a

1380
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: test tube and you like rapidly like became a you know,

1381
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: a full grown man. And she's like, I'm going this

1382
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: is revolutionary. It's like, what is the what's the guy?

1383
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: Mister wonderful. She's like she's trying to make mister wonderful.

1384
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: She's trying to make a programmable like like a little

1385
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: pill you throw into a bathtub and it like grows

1386
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: into a husband. I love it, and he's like the

1387
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: perfect man. And so she's like really just trying to

1388
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: get the formula right here. That's the that's the new

1389
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: twist I'm thinking of.

1390
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: AP called me, and I just couldn't not know why

1391
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: she was calling. It was a pointless phone call with

1392
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: no substance. I deleted the traces of it. Wife found out,

1393
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: and I lied. I came home from work to the

1394
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 2: locks change, suitcases packed, and a hotel reservation taped to them.

1395
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: She remains steadfast on the road to divorce. Since, Wow,

1396
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 2: do you blame her? What? Do you have any remorse

1397
01:06:59,000 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 2: for any of.

1398
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: This or what? I just had to know why. The

1399
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: crazy woman who's obsessed with me and tried to blow

1400
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: up both of our lives so he could be together

1401
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: called me. Hey, buddy, you're late. They've got a town hall.

1402
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: It's stupid town. They're waiting for the mayor to show up.

1403
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: Hey, Boddy, you just blowing from stupid down.

1404
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 4: Yep, that's right.

1405
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: I came out of the affair fog and out of

1406
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: the protective bubble of the affair and quickly realized that

1407
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: my relationship with AP was not based on any reality

1408
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: and we had no actual real world combatibility whatsoever. I

1409
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: put her on a pedestal and idolized her. I got

1410
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: the best bits of her and she me. When I

1411
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: really started to reflect on all of this, it was

1412
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: very clear to me that what I liked about AP

1413
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with her and everything to do

1414
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: with me. I liked that she made me feel easy.

1415
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: I liked that she made me feel wanted and important,

1416
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: and I loved that when she validated me and I

1417
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: could do no wrong. I was a bad guy for

1418
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: forgetting diapers on the way home. My wife was inconsiderate

1419
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: to ask me to do that after a long day.

1420
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't agree with this, just providing an example. So what.

1421
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: I have a My question is, Yeah, what on earth

1422
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

1423
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: What? What he liked all these things that the affair

1424
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: partner was doing that his wife wasn't because he never

1425
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: took to the father chapter of his life, He never

1426
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: took on the parental role and then kind of just

1427
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: wanted to not take on that role, just completely rejected

1428
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: it and then went and did something with someone else,

1429
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: And now your entire life is ruined. So good job,

1430
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: op freaking idiot. I liked getting the dopamine hits from her,

1431
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 2: and I liked that she was jealous of my wife

1432
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: like I was apprized to be cherished. I mean, is

1433
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: there really anything left to say?

1434
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope this man falls into the bottomless pit

1435
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: that says I'm Shelley Duval. That's a callback to something

1436
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: we said earlier. Yeah, uh, stupendous. Probably the dumbest person

1437
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: in Okay storytime history. Yeah, maybe the dumbest person in

1438
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: Okay storytime history of all time. And what's really pissing

1439
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: me off about this guy is he keeps saying little

1440
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: things like I love the dopamine where blah blah blah

1441
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: where it's like, are you still not taking any personal

1442
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: accountability for this? Like he talks about, Oh yeah, I

1443
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: was What really I needed was a dopamine dtalks. I

1444
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: want to hit you with hammers, like you know, like

1445
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: the Mario guys that can't get us demonetized, right, it's Mario.

1446
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: They do that in Mario. That's a children's game.

1447
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hate how he is acting, how he's like,

1448
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: you know, I finally figured out the reason that I

1449
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: did this, and it's because this, this and this. Okay,

1450
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: does that make you feel better? But you know that

1451
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: like good you went to a therapist. We see that

1452
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: in your writing. Are you are you gonna? Are you

1453
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 2: gonna take responsibility or what like.

1454
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1455
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: Do you feel any more now? I am divorced, taking

1456
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,440
Speaker 2: some time to work through some stuff in therapy, focusing

1457
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: on trying to be a strong co parent and really

1458
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: lean into being a dad, a good one. My ex

1459
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: wife was fair in the divorce, but she did not

1460
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 2: yield in the least. She will likely continue to be

1461
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: a stay at home mom until her son starts school.

1462
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: Even after custody is established at fifty to fifty, he

1463
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: is still being breast fed and I am not pushing

1464
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: early weaning. She has the marital home and for some

1465
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure symbolic reasons, insisted she have my car. I

1466
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: have a lease on a two bedroom apartment, paying alimony

1467
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: and child support, and now looking for a new car.

1468
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: I am doing okay, and every day is a little better,

1469
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: but today really sucks.

1470
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: I wish every day gets worse for you, my guy. Oooh,

1471
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: I wish nothing but worse days ahead for you. Oh,

1472
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: except for you know, in the small vacuum of you

1473
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: being a good father to your child, which, honestly, based

1474
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: on everything you've read, I think the best version of

1475
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: fatherhood for you is never interacting with your child and

1476
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: just providing money because you in no way should be

1477
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: a role model or a teacher for anyone on the planet. Yeah,

1478
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: and that's the end of this story.