WEBVTT - BONUS: "Coming Out" w/ Raquel Willis

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<v Speaker 1>Woody Who. A little show update from Stradio Lab headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>is that this Saturday, October nineteenth, Sam and I have

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<v Speaker 1>dueling shows coast to coast. So if you are in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, get your tickets to Sam Taggart and Friends

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<v Speaker 1>at Dynasty Typewriter featuring Chris Fleming, Sophie Buttle, Joel Kimbooster,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rachel Colli. And if you're in New York, get

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<v Speaker 1>your tickets for George Severis and Friends at Union Hall

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<v Speaker 1>featuring Max Witter, Britney Carney, Just Tom, and Michael Aber.

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<v Speaker 1>And both of those shows again are this Saturday, October nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>And next month you can see me at Joe's Pub

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<v Speaker 1>as part of the New York Comedy Festival, which is

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting and it's always been my dream to perform

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<v Speaker 1>there not to be a Bitch, And that is November

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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth and November twenty fifth. In the first show I

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<v Speaker 1>think is either sold out or selling out very fast,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get those tickets in November twenty fifth, and

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<v Speaker 1>all ticket links are in our various Instagram bios And

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<v Speaker 1>we can't wait to see you, whether you're in Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles for in New York, and we promised the Toronto

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<v Speaker 1>show link is coming, but the show exists and it's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in November. Okay, I love you, enjoy the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody, how's everyone doing? Wow? Hello? Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know, before we begin, I do have to

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<v Speaker 1>say I see some empty seats and I see some

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<v Speaker 1>standing people. So, honey, something is nodding on. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to invite. I would like to officially invite.

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<v Speaker 1>Endorsed by Chase Bank, I would like to officially invite

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to fill these seats, and I refuse to perform

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<v Speaker 1>until that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA that is radical? Oh yeah, taking a seat radical

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<v Speaker 2>if activism.

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<v Speaker 1>It's national coming out. If you're not seated, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention. All right. I mean I have to say, still,

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<v Speaker 1>see three seats in the front.

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<v Speaker 2>And roughly two hundred people standing up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy? Is this a sweat tour? Okay? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>People. You know, in non branded spaces, no one pays attention,

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<v Speaker 1>No one listens to me when I speak, but here

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<v Speaker 1>they're like what we have to say?

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<v Speaker 2>No, the way that you are at home in a

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<v Speaker 2>branded space is scale. My god.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel more relaxed than I have in years. I

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<v Speaker 1>am meant to be in a comfortable chair in front

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<v Speaker 1>of two brands. Okay, speaking of which, thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Freedom for sponsoring our radio lab event tonight. And

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<v Speaker 1>we are very excited to spend National Coming Out Day

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<v Speaker 1>with all of you at the Stonewall National Monument Visitor

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<v Speaker 1>Center and Stonewall Inn and celebrate your freedom to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually thinking my first time at Stonewall was

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<v Speaker 1>get this at the kickoff event for Cynthia nixon scubernatorial campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was with my friend who was at the

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<v Speaker 1>time a tour guide at the Sex and the City

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<v Speaker 1>tour bus. That was her job, and we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is big.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I remember that whole campaign and that was like,

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<v Speaker 2>am I in a bubble? Or is she really going

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<v Speaker 2>to win this?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what it was the former I was in

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<v Speaker 1>a bubble big time. But it's okay, it's okay. One

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<v Speaker 1>we would never have gotten in just like that, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is overall better for progressive politics.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of a less true statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what are you gonna do for me? A

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<v Speaker 2>Stonewall I've actually never been inside of it. Wow, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that crazy? Huh Yeah, I've never been inside I once.

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<v Speaker 2>This is shameful though, but it's coming out day, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say it. I walked by it with my

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<v Speaker 2>college improp group.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was a long time ago. To Samwich Troby,

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<v Speaker 1>like what.

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<v Speaker 2>The what the hell's the like? Who would even go

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<v Speaker 2>in there? The hell? Yeah? Yeah, I was semi closet

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<v Speaker 2>in an impro group. Oh yeah, they knew I was gay,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, but I'm not really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can never be fully out while doing improp comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, because you're always you could jump into

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<v Speaker 2>character anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. It's really scary. Actually, you know this is

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<v Speaker 1>Tradio Lab. I want to hear and don't be shy.

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<v Speaker 1>Clap if you know what the podcast is if you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to okay, yeah, okay, okay, cool, oh okay, passionate listeners, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>JU wantix maybe explain what it is what we study here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna keep We're gonna silence for quel for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as possible. I really walked right into that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So Stradia Lab is a podcast in which we explore

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<v Speaker 2>the beautiful rich tapestry. That is straight culture, straight culture?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say straight culture? You know, of course

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<v Speaker 1>there's the obvious thing sports, no show, socks.

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<v Speaker 2>Overhead lighting, boat shoes, math. I came a cruise is

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<v Speaker 2>unless you know it's the roseodonal cruz, And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I want to share one that I came across recently,

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<v Speaker 2>something from straight culture that I did to myself traditional

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<v Speaker 2>form of shaving, the cream and then the shave.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam had never shaved traditionally. Traditionally, he had only ever

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<v Speaker 1>used an electric razor, non traditional queer shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a point. I was very when I

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<v Speaker 2>first got like a little like eighth grade boy mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, this doesn't work. I'm a little boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this doesn't fit my boyish charm, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. And so I was sort of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe no one will notice. Unfortunately, people do start to notice,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad was like, I was like, what do

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<v Speaker 2>I do? And he was like, well, we'll figure out

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<v Speaker 2>the real shaving later, but for now, just use this

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<v Speaker 2>electric shaver cut too. Roughly four hundred years later, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still using the electric razor and I've never learned to shave,

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<v Speaker 2>and so now I'm living in LA and I came

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<v Speaker 2>to New York and I had forgotten my electric razor

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to learn quick.

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<v Speaker 1>In your I want to say early twenties hmm, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>basically there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's never too late to learn, even if you're

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one or twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to you know, I actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring Raquel and because she made a point

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<v Speaker 1>about shaving that I think is very interesting. Please without

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<v Speaker 1>missing a me, Raquel was like, well, yeah, shaving is straight,

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<v Speaker 1>laser is queer. Yeah, thought yeah everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi everyone, No, yeah, I was saying that this might

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<v Speaker 3>be TMI, and my community was gonna be like, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>are you giving away the secret?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, but I had to, you know, get a little

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<v Speaker 3>touched up on the laser. And I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when I first started this, like twelve or so years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>like I felt very like out of my element. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I got this down now, Like, laser is mine.

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<v Speaker 3>So as a trans woman, I am claiming laser soorry. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and George you actually had some proof well as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I of course, so my family lives in Greece.

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<v Speaker 1>I partly grew up there and it laser is I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, part of the religion. I think it's Greek

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<v Speaker 1>Orthodoxy in Greece, and so you know, sometimes you're blessed

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<v Speaker 1>by the priest or the archbishop, and I it's much

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper there. It's literally like maybe a tenth of the

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<v Speaker 1>price here. So I only do laser hair removal on

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<v Speaker 1>various parts of my body when I go back home.

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<v Speaker 1>And famously, the place I go to overlooks the Parthenon.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is a true honor to sort of disrobe

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<v Speaker 1>and have a woman that hates me come in and

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<v Speaker 1>hurt me physically while I look at just like the

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<v Speaker 1>legacy of my people, the window that is so so

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<v Speaker 1>very queer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, No, it's very queer. I mean. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>with putting shaving cream on your face is like I

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<v Speaker 2>was suddenly like, oh, I looked like like a TV

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<v Speaker 2>commercial father. Yeah, but of course unfortunately that's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit erotic, and so there was something about that I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, maybe I'll do this forever. Yeah, we complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>We had another straight experience. We witnessed something that we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>We witness something that we want to talk about. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a little haunting and.

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<v Speaker 3>I we love it. Yeah, that's however, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>love a them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's is there anything scary? I mean, spooky season is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's actually coming out day in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of spooky seas. That's right, you guys connect the dots.

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<v Speaker 2>We were around a straight We had a straight guest

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<v Speaker 2>on our podcast because we're radical.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold your a pause.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a straight guest mail straight man yest yikes, non.

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<v Speaker 1>Caucasian American straight mail. Well he's Greek, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And he didn't know anyone, you know, any of the

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<v Speaker 2>audio technicians that weren't helping us that day, he did

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<v Speaker 2>not know them. And but one guy just exclaimed one

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<v Speaker 2>thing about sports. He was like, oh, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah was traded to blah blah blah. Without

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<v Speaker 2>missing a beat, he jumps in. The other guy jumps in.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh my god, we're Travis.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversation. They have not introduced one another, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know each other's names.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were like, it's the straight version of cruising.

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<v Speaker 1>That is straight cruising is saying a sports fact. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was so deeply intimate and yet anonymous, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, you don't know your names, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where each other lives. Yeah, Like I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are being nasty right now.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, It's like our version, I guess, would

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<v Speaker 1>be like did you hear the remix album?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, and we already know that. I can tell

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<v Speaker 3>with just the look what the album you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>The standems are basically like sports team that's you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in that case, do you think we should celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>them celebrating sports?

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<v Speaker 3>There's a certain standum that I cannot co sign any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of celebration. But I won't say that out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>It's political.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, we're not talking about that. No, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>sports and family values exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's treat that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then I think that was.

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<v Speaker 2>It for our straight culture catchup.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, but you had you had a straight thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you just told us before we came on stage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually a good one. It's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't remember it. But laundry, Oh, laundry I

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to for yeah, yeah, because I hate laundry.

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<v Speaker 1>Raquel thought for a long time like what's my street topic.

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<v Speaker 1>What's my street topic? And she was like, is laundry straight?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, it's a prising, what is queer?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So I have a whole situation where I have

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<v Speaker 3>to go to a laundromat and I'm lucky because my

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<v Speaker 3>laundromat is like right around the corner from me. But

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<v Speaker 3>it still feels like a treck yes, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm like, I know exactly what the ancestors felt

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<v Speaker 3>like on the night of the Stonewall riots popping off.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's just but when I go, like I

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<v Speaker 3>have to deal with the whole shablam, it's like cat calling.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the older like uncle dude at the door

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<v Speaker 3>who's like flirting and I hope he doesn't listen to

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<v Speaker 3>this because like he hooks me up when I leave

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<v Speaker 3>my dechargent at home. But it's just it's a whole ricamarole.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we were talking about like is an end

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<v Speaker 3>unit situation straighter or queerer? And I think we said

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<v Speaker 3>it was straighter.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that is essential. It's like individualism. It's so straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like a londromat. Yes it's straight, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least you are going to the watering hole

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<v Speaker 1>with your You're like one of the animals going to

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<v Speaker 1>the lake to you know, get your little piece of slop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Something communal about that. You know, you're living in chosen family. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my laundromat is my chosen family in a

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<v Speaker 1>very big way.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean in two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, exactly. And it doesn't mean you like all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Might mean you're afraid of most of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still your family. God damn it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the straighter things about Launchry to me is

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<v Speaker 2>when people overwash their clothes. Yes, Like when people are like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there can't be there can't be any sign that I

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<v Speaker 2>ever wore this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's fine, Like calm down, yeah, stop being ashamed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you live a beautiful rat. Stop coming out day

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<v Speaker 1>for crying out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have some ketchup on your pa.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop washing her clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. We also said that dry cleaning was especially clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean the drama of it, like and

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<v Speaker 1>then they put it they like take your clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>make them youw and put them in a little outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never thought about it as a little alum, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and they each have an individual little

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<v Speaker 1>like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, yeah, and I'm still especially important when I have

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<v Speaker 3>like the like the really like good laundry bags, right,

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<v Speaker 3>like the ones with the like canegar and but it's

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<v Speaker 3>like cloth or something, not the plastic ones that that's no,

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<v Speaker 3>that's straight please killing the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>As a Chase Freedom member, I would never but yes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think there's something about dry cleaning where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the platonic ideal of an errand and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>finally I am Carrie Bradshaw.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well ring also like I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what happens once it's taken back there. No one knows,

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<v Speaker 2>and that little sense of mystery is like, yeah, that's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do they do? Someone comes and arrests us?

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<v Speaker 2>The secret No one's allowed to know what they do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we talk about coming out?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it is national coming out there, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>National coming out, Dave. So here is positive, Here is positive.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I think too many people have

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<v Speaker 1>come out and actually being positive. I think being there's

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<v Speaker 1>something so radical about being closet. It's like believe something

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<v Speaker 1>to the imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>George, you can't say that here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kidding, we're actually announcing that we're both going back

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<v Speaker 1>in the closet after this event.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm jealous. Yeah, this has gotten old.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so.

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<v Speaker 1>But Raquel was telling us something very interesting and very

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<v Speaker 1>stradio lab which is well, i'll let you say it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, okay, So we know kind of like the

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<v Speaker 3>boiler plate kind of like language of like for transpholts. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like we have multiple coming out I came out

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<v Speaker 3>as gay at like fourteen. To my mom. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like raining and you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Started raining right when you came out, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I wasn't a movie a lightning strike, yeah.

0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, light hands, just lightning and there was a flood.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No. It was the most unintelligent thing I've ever done,

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<v Speaker 3>because like afterwards, I was like, she could have swerved.

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<v Speaker 3>It could have been a whole thing, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>she would have had possible deniability. But that was a

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<v Speaker 3>little dark.

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<v Speaker 2>So you came out in the car.

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<v Speaker 3>I came out in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Car, wow, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And she was like, well, this will just be

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<v Speaker 3>something we have to work through. And of course now

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she's loved every phase of my life. The

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<v Speaker 3>drag performances when I was in college, the coming out

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<v Speaker 3>as trans. Believe it or not. She loved that coming

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<v Speaker 3>out more than the first one. That one made more sense.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is is, I've come out of so

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<v Speaker 3>many things by this point that I feel like I'm straight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that is that is actually what horseshoe

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<v Speaker 1>theory is. It's like you come out so much that

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<v Speaker 1>then you are fully You're like in the boardroom, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>being like you're fired for being gay.

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<v Speaker 3>Like and I've done it too many times. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>left to like shock my family with anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, you said that she preferred when you came

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<v Speaker 2>out as trans. How did she express that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she was like she was like, this makes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more sense. And I didn't know if that was

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<v Speaker 3>like a compliment like bir you got it, that essence

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<v Speaker 3>is there, or if it was like yeah, I don't know, yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It does seem a little offensive to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you were lying before. There was always something

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<v Speaker 1>off with my daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah basically yeah, but it's been fun. You know, she's

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<v Speaker 3>she's good, and my mom has come out as an ally.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the years, I grew up very Catholic, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>so like I heard the moans. I heard a few moans.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm used to that, but but it's been a journey.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's like now she's like on the p flag

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<v Speaker 3>national work, Like my mom is like, if y'all watch,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a throwback, like this is aging me. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you watch where as Folk right and the mom

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<v Speaker 3>that was like super farming of Michael And I was like, Oh,

0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.800
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't that be great? That's literally my mom. She's like

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<v Speaker 3>that of farming.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't your mom today send you a video of about

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<v Speaker 1>gay tourism in Michigan or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, my mom is also too accepted. She is really

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<v Speaker 2>pushing me back in the closet. She today. She she

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<v Speaker 2>always whenever I go home, she lives in like they

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<v Speaker 2>live in a small town in Michigan, and she's always like,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw two guys holding hands and I'm like, okay,

0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:44.840
<v Speaker 2>So she's like, so feel free to do whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, if you're not holding somebody's hand, are you failing?

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<v Speaker 2>Literally yeah? And then she'll also be like she'll love

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<v Speaker 2>to be like and I saw her guy in Espeedo

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<v Speaker 2>at the Beach. Things are really changing around here in

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<v Speaker 2>Southwest Mission.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandma was like, she saw some speech that the

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<v Speaker 1>Greek Orthodox archbishop made that was homophobic and sebay and

0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:11.480
<v Speaker 1>she was like, why don't they like gay people? I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were. I'm like, right, that's sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. But that's like what we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>for generations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, today my mom took it to a new level.

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<v Speaker 2>She sent me a video that's like, uh, like queer

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<v Speaker 2>influencer going to my mom's town. That was like, Southwest

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan is the best queer vacation. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, I wish my son made queer influencer

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<v Speaker 1>videos about our town.

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<v Speaker 2>I was literally like, no, it's not like there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way on her Southwest Michigan is the best queer vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless unless should we go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a buss outside going on. We're going to the

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Freedom Cruise to Central to Southwest Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, imagine this event, but just in southwest Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be living.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. That's radical.

0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is radical. We all get on the jet.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Sowall is like on the note.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's like, yeah, we get it here, like

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<v Speaker 1>no one's being convinced to come out at this event

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<v Speaker 1>and south of especially and there would be people being like, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gay and it would be my dad that.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually shaving cream all over. Did we want to talk

0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.680
<v Speaker 1>about our coming out? Well, that's it's like, so you've

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<v Speaker 1>come out so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>That you feel that your housetight.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's iconic.

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<v Speaker 3>But why did you have me go first about like

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<v Speaker 3>coming out?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>God, well you know you're the guest. Wow. Yeah, ladies Chris, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well now yeah, I know ours are less exciting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say I came. I was literally about to

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<v Speaker 1>board a flight, a transatlantic flight, and decided to come

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<v Speaker 1>out seconds before leaving for the airport. So I was

0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.320
<v Speaker 1>just sort of like I'm gay and then just literally

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<v Speaker 1>like got on a plane and left the country, which

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<v Speaker 1>I do think is kind of a dramatic thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's very gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like, and this was before Wi Fi

0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.800
<v Speaker 1>on plane, so it's like you can't reach me sit

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<v Speaker 1>with this. Did you allow any Q and a portion

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Like we were in a hurry to get to the airport,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Wow, there was maybe five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you come out?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Mine was We've never talked about it. Mine was

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<v Speaker 2>so so passive aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well, very gay, very very gay, and very

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<v Speaker 1>do you identify as a wasp.

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<v Speaker 2>You keep trying to put me in a walk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're not and I have maybe like twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent Okay, I so, okay. I wrote a very salacious

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<v Speaker 2>journal the year I was very aware that the year

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<v Speaker 2>that I was twenty one, I was living in Chicago,

0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and I can say in Stonewall, I was expressing my sexuality. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>the light's up right when you say something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was expressing my sexuality. And I was writing in

0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.120
<v Speaker 2>this journal every single thing that I was doing, and

0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 2>really editorializing and having a lot of fun because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was my journal and it was for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>then of course my parents come to move me out

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:11.439
<v Speaker 2>of college and they find the journal. Wow, sort of

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 2>tales oldt time. Maybe don't document everything that you're keeping

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 2>a secret. So then I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I didn't read it, obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>God, that's kind of what I thought. So then they

0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 2>read the journal. My mom cries, reads the journal is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a nightmare. Journal goes in the garbage, and

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:37.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well that was my book. Wow, Journal

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<v Speaker 2>was in the garbage. And then like the next year,

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:44.159
<v Speaker 2>we're playing this game where we're like.

0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Like, but's in the garbage, but doesn't address it.

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<v Speaker 2>With you No, ohait, sorry, but that's Baker no, like

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<v Speaker 2>not being the lot allegations, And so then for the

0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 2>next year it would be like, well, like she would

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 2>say like, well, are you dating anyone? And I would

0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 2>say like, no, Mom, I'm not. And it was this

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<v Speaker 2>thing where we go back and forth and she'd be like, well,

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 2>how's that one girl? And I was like I don't know, mom,

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 2>how is she? And we'd sort of like do this

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 2>back and forth.

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 1>We were being like really gay.

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 2>We were being we were like being in Ryan Murray's

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 2>feud y, like we were being so insane towards each other,

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and like because I was just like, well you read

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.240
<v Speaker 2>the journal, you tell me I'm gay, and which neither

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 2>of us were? You know, is in vulnerable time.

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Take notes. This is how you should do it. Any

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.880
<v Speaker 1>parents out there, if your kid comes out, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>to not address it for approximately one calendar year.

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Let them sit with it, and then it became very

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 2>amicable and it was fun for sure. And then you know,

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 2>then she got into the southwest, Michigan is such an

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 2>amazing place for gay.

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, started following queer influencers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tyler Oakley.

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:52.160
<v Speaker 2>But the cinematic part was like sort of sitting around

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.640
<v Speaker 2>the dinner table, you know, and then my mom being like, well,

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 2>cheers to that, and it was like, okay, well that's

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 2>clean exit.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, sure, Well all the traumas one.

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Literally pretty erased pretty quickly.

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're the two only psychologically well gay people.

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, it's really cool.

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we've been tested and they said correct. Yeah,

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>so mine was messy. Okay, is that fun? That's fun?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>We were thinking, like, you know, we traditionally we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about straight culture on this podcast, and so we were like,

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>how can we twist coming out to be a straight topic?

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<v Speaker 1>What did and do you think coming out could be straight?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Absolutely? Like I think the most radical thing is

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<v Speaker 3>when people come out as ally that's right. Yeah, Like

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 3>it is so hard for people who support yes, clear

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 3>people it's very true to be open about it because

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<v Speaker 3>they might be ostracized. Yes, they're owned by their families.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially when they're a famous celebrity exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's funny though, because like coming out as

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 3>is like a queer thing obviously, like we hold it.

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 3>But it's like you can come out as like a

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<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of things.

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 2>That's true, you know.

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you could come out as like, you know, someone

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 3>who loves doritos. I don't know why they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the part, like, you know what, I think,

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>speaking of the sports thing, I feel like a coming out,

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 1>a straight coming out is like being in a city

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 1>where they don't support your own your team, and then

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 1>being and then like unbuttoning your shirt and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a Red Sox T shirt under it or like like

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 1>at the big game. I feel like that's a straight

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>version of coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>No totally. I mean there are like straight subcultures that

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>it does feel like sometimes they're like sometimes I feel

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 2>for them because they don't have the ritual of coming out.

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like if you're rockabilly, well, imagine being rockabilly in

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 2>today's climate.

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're ostracized more than queer beer.

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I fel this way about gamers.

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Game that's right, gamers have to come out, what other

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of straight people have to come out.

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>And they never stopped coming out.

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Often unsolicited, they successfully appropriated that appropriated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure, that is really true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, well should we do we we were sort

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of thinking, do you think we can do I think

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>we should do it. We're trying to think of a

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>good segment for National coming Out and we were like, okay, like,

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>there are so many different ways you can come out

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and there's no right way. You can quote me on that,

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and so we were thinking of all the different ways

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>people we know have come out and whether they are

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>gay or straight. So we're gonna give Raquel a series

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.159
<v Speaker 1>of sort of ways that you can come out and

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 1>then we can all chat through whether they are gay

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>or straight. Are you ready love it?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Raquel.

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<v Speaker 3>Gay?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Coming out via a heartfelt conversation with your accepting

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>progressive mom.

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<v Speaker 3>That's oh. I guess it depends on the era. I

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 3>felt like that's straight yet struggle can you Yeah, you're

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.360
<v Speaker 3>day and not struggle a bit.

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 2>It's very Disney movie exactly. It's it's to be consumed.

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, come on, we need there's no narrative there. You

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>have to overcome something, right.

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 3>Okay, maybe let's make it up.

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>No, that's true, Okay, okay, okay, here's another one, coming

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 2>out via a heart warring but emotionally stunted conversation with

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>your progressive dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now, yes, that's like right on the nosegay. That

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 3>might be the gayest thing you can do. Yeah.

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>To have to talk about sexuality with your father in

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>any way, even if you're straight, yeah, can be traumatizing.

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.400
<v Speaker 2>One of the darker relationships in my mind is when

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a dad really want to talk to their son about sex.

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>When my dad told me after I came out to

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>my dad, he decided that the best thing to do

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>would be to watch a bunch of queer movies. But

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 1>he was not looking. He was just googling gay movies

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and he was not like looking into whether they were

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>like critically acclaimed or you know whatever. And so he

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>watched that movie weekend. Oh sure includes I don't know

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>if we're allowed to say this in the Chase Bunster event,

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>but it includes bodily fluids Out and Proud a national

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>coming out Day. And then he goes, that was one

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>of the better movies I've seen on the subject.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was how your father came out.

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Talk about Okay, I was like very sophisticate, very Sundance

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:48.959
<v Speaker 1>film festival of you to be like, well, I have

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to watch a critically acclaimed mumblecore film about two gay

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>guys in London.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, well that's amazing.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well anyway, well anyway, okay, Raquel here, Okay, coming

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>out at a school assembly.

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean that feels gay, but very like mid two

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 3>thousands gay, you know, to.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Want an audience is gay? Yeah, I actually think it's

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>so much more, you know, I think it's so much

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>more going to come out to a crowd than to

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>an individual person because you're avoiding the vulnerability.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>You're immediately saying like this is a performance. I am

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>a performer. Life is a cabarette.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and you just like strut down, you know those

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 3>like tables that are jointed together, and you're like kicking

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 3>off people's and the milk is flying on your bully

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 3>and everything is okay.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Everything is okay. I mean, to be in high school

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and sort of think you need to give a press

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>conference is one of the gayer mindsets one can happen.

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 3>But there's a there's a side quest here Okay. This

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 3>made me think of, like, I don't know, I am

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>this fictionalized moment where like the lunch lady is like clapping,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 3>she's happy for you. But then I think about, like

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 3>how gay it us to have that like one teacher

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 3>like staff member that like everyone knows it's queer, but

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 3>like they can't be out. And then you like hear

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.719
<v Speaker 3>everything that your peers say and you're like, oh, okay,

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 3>this is how you would react if I said something. Yeah,

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 3>and it could be good or not.

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>But.

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, certainly internal turmoil is queer, yeah, and external turmoil

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>is straight.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sticking by that.

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 3>And shout out to my gay you know, I don't

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 3>want to, but but she is queer and we know

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>it because of Facebook, because there was a point where

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>we all like friended our former teachers for whatever reason

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 3>on Facebook. But when I came out and I got

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 3>really bullied. She was the teacher that was known as

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 3>like giving like the red slips to everyone just for

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 3>like any little infraction, like it could have been a

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 3>dress code violation. It was always a dress covidvie elation.

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 3>She never gave me anymore after I came out, Like

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 3>I felt so held by her not saying anything about

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>her identity, but just not giving me a red that's

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 3>really nice.

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should have taken advantage of it and shown

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>up dressed like, you know, the chiquita banana.

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like you.

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Should have turned to literally like turned like Gaga looks

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>every day. You're like, what are you gonna do? I'm queer?

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>And that was prime Gaga time.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right.

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay. The next one is coming out when you have

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>approximately one beer at the after party for the high

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>school musical where you were just doing tech by the way,

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 2>and you decide this is the perfect time to tell everyone.

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 3>It's gay because it's so long of a prom.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, and I would say specifically lesbian.

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah yeah, well the beer, well, I mean what

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 3>about the tech?

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, coming out via a notes app screenshot to your

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Instagram grid that is titled my truth.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>They're not really gay. I can't. I can't give them

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 3>that text app.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>No notes app text, You need visuals.

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>You need a video show.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Now, like no queer is going to give that up?

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Raquel is commenting, No, you're not.

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay. The next one is on a podcast interview.

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Depends on the podcast exactly.

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>This could go either way.

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 2>What would what would make it gayer, what would make

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 2>it straighter?

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Coming out on Stradio Lab, They're like, maybe we've inspired

0:31:59.000 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 3>some people.

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think all these closes people are about to

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>come out.

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about coming out on the cover of Time

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>magazine with the headline Yep, I'm gay.

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we have to give credit where credit is.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I think without her there would be no notes, that right.

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 3>And we're just gonna say without her, we're not going

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 3>to say any names. No, but yes, I mean yes,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 3>like that, Yes, that was iconic.

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>She gets a shovel for that.

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Did they know about the listeners either going to know

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 3>about the shovel?

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, I assume the shovel symbolized people that have contributed

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to this space. But what's really amazing is that there's

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of well. Sam made the point that Donna telever side,

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>she next to AARP, feels pointed.

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>It feels like a read.

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>And then there is definitely a whole road that's all

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>brands except for Christina Aguilera. Yeah, but I'm like, imagine

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>how powerful Christina eguire is that she's literally competing with

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Amazon in booking dot Com. She's like booking dot com, Honey,

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll show you who's both. I'm so happy I stuck

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:16.959
<v Speaker 1>that landing.

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, coming out via an it Gets Better video.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Vintage Okay, coming out through very explicit lyrics and a

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 3>song you wrote for a major label. No, that's gotta

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>be coded for a while. Yes, that's the gay struggle

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 3>for the Superstar.

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's almost like that's the notes app version of

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a song, like leave a little something, write my truth

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and nothing else.

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay. By clapping back at the haters on Instagram live.

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 3>And they're saying like what, like, yeah, you're right, I'm gay.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 2>They're like, I am gay.

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I like it. I like it.

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I think being confrontational when possible is the correct way

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to go.

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's sort of how I did it.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, that's very you coded, like it's.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Queerer through live because it could be temporary exactly, but

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 3>like you're going to choose not to make it temporary,

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>and you're gonna post.

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>This exactly, and I feel like my truth notes up.

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm commenting coward. Go on live, Yeah, go

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.280
<v Speaker 1>on live, and then I want to see your face.

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.240
<v Speaker 3>We want to see the anguish all of it, exactly okay.

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Coming out by saying you don't believe in labels after

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>paparazzi photos were leaked.

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of gay. That's kind of gay. You know

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 3>you got a gas a little bit, like that's reparations

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 3>for us.

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Gas like gatekeep girlbost exactly okay, okay. By being very

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 2>publicly friends with another gay celebrity and hoping people catch on.

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Like a that Charles, that's not Charles. What's his name? James?

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Charles?

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Who am I talking about? Wait?

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 2>You mean he's the one that they would be friends with?

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I love that You're like make up.

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Wait but from no, no, I'm saying if you were friends,

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 1>you were friends, like if you were not out but

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>you started hanging out with.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, maybe you're like maybe a f F Wait

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 3>say it again?

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Wait I lost I lost the Okay. So it's like,

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you come out by being very publicly friends with a

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 2>gay celebrity and just like not addressing any rumors.

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like, I kind of like, uh, okay, okay,

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 3>but then it would be funny if you came out astray.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay. Coming out by winning an Academy Award and

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.760
<v Speaker 1>thinking your partner, your rock Judith.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanking Judith by name. It's brave, you're on a stage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cinematic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cinematic. Well you won for cinematography. Okay, that deserves

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<v Speaker 1>a little more.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And this one's appropriate. By using a gay slur

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<v Speaker 2>on Watch What Happens Live and being like I can

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<v Speaker 2>say that I'm gay.

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<v Speaker 3>That fills a little straight somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that is straight.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 3>And you got to get them off your back, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get canceled, and then you have to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how to get uncanceled.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently it's self preservation. Yeah, wow, a lot. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we've learned a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we do our final segment? Yeah, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>segment that we do at all our live shows, and

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>we thought it would be especially fun to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Raquel and I cannot wait to tell the story in

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<v Speaker 1>this room. So this is a segment called issue There Yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And it started because a friend of ours, her name

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<v Speaker 1>is Celeste. They were at the Toronto Film Festival and

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<v Speaker 1>they were there for the premiere of the Grace Jones

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<v Speaker 1>documentary and so at this talkback, the director was like,

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, we just there's no icons like Grace Jones anymore.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>There's no icons like that anymore. And someone in the

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>audience said, what about Janelle Maney And then the director said,

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>she's not there yet? Now I am. I will not

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<v Speaker 1>be commenting on that, and neither will Sam and we

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>never will and we never will. But from that story,

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>this game was born. By the way, yes, and we

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>are on and Raquel is on record as saying she

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<v Speaker 1>is there yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Correct? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So from that story we created this game called

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Issue There Yet. We're basically going to give Raquel a

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>series of celebrities, people, places, things, concepts, and we'll all

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>chat about Issue there Yet.

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 2>And we've decided to do New.

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>York and they're in New York and yes it's New

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>York icons. So it's all New York themed tonight in

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>honor of Stonewall.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't be able to get home if I say

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, recalled the first one, SA Parker, is she there yet?

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<v Speaker 3>She's there?

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's there, thank you. Oh my god, I was

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I was scared. I was like, she could be in here.

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>This is exactly the kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventual She's right outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>The opening of the a Coming Out Day event at

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the Stonewall Visitor Center. Sarah Parker's like handing out finger food. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z, y'all are evil?

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Is she there yet?

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 3>She's there?

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>She's there, I think, jay Z.

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I live in Brooklyn, Hunty, so again, I gotta

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 3>get home?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think. And I think jay Z would also

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>be an event like this because famously he has a

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:47.919
<v Speaker 1>lesbian mother.

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well not all of us can say that, but.

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 2>But jay Z can. Okay, the Statue of Liberty.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she there yet?

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Is she there yet?

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Is she there? I like her? She's there, She's there.

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:05.720
<v Speaker 3>She means a lot to a lot of people.

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Girl, Yeah, just girl.

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 3>Love a selfie near her?

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, timeless gown yeah, teal colored.

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 2>The tiaras a lot. But she's having fun.

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.320
<v Speaker 1>She's she's holding a book but not reading.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Very gay there, it's upside down.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>She's like instagramming it with a little thing of coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Patty, she's and she's there again, Honey. I'm loving

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Agatha all the way. Yes, yeah, Witches are there too.

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Witches are there? You know? I read that it's goth

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>girl fall in some failing publication.

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I feel bad about the autumn. She's like the autumn

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 3>girl bottomn ball girl.

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, oh that's right. It is a direct attack

0:39:57.880 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>on her.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 3>I was too traumatized.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Christian right, right, right, for sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Pizza Rat, is she there yet?

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 3>She's not there? I don't think I'm not going to

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 3>give it.

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>She had one single, yeah right, Pizza Rat was giving

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>industry plan to me. I'm like, there is no way

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 1>all of you find this so funny. It's not that funny.

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 2>It's like a pizza Yeah. That may be mad.

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but if it was, you know, like if we

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>knew what kind of it was giving, maybe maybe that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, this is a classic New York figure, a

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>French influencer taking a selfie on a rooftop bar in Williamsburg.

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Is she there yet?

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 3>She's not.

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 2>She's not, She's not.

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 3>She was in Bushwick.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's true.

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And maybe if she was at a mead bar that

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 2>would be amazing. Yeah, you guys don't know about mead bars. Okay,

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 2>midtown crowd, okay, sex and the city. Is she there yet?

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 3>She's there? But I'm traumatized by her. But she's there.

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 2>She that's like why she's there, like the way that

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 2>she can cause trauma, and like how I keep going back.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:18.399
<v Speaker 2>That's someone who's there.

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.399
<v Speaker 1>But yes, I want to ask a follow up question,

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>which is, can you please ring from Gata straight the

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<v Speaker 1>Four Women of Sex and the City.

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh from Gaeta strait. Oh, well, Miranda's gayest for sure? Okay,

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 3>that should I never understood what was going on there,

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 3>I want to say. I want to say Charlotte a second,

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 3>like there's something about like prim and proper but like

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 3>secretly very clear. Wow, Samantha of course, but I know

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 3>I think Samantha's on her own right.

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Like Samantha is a gay guy.

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so like it's it's understood.

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>So and then carries the most carefus fully straight personal

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.399
<v Speaker 1>that's why shes finger food. That's right, she's such an

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>ally that she doesn't actually know what gay is.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Next one, ellis Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she there yet?

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Is she there yet?

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 3>Given the climate? She's there?

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>That's right, she needs all the help she can gets

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 1>important to take in the context, Yes, thank you, you

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>are doing a great job of living in the context.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 2>No one has been hit with a coconut.

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Here okay, Oh this is a classic New York figure,

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a very buzzy, up and coming visual artist who is

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>secretly the daughter of an arms dealer.

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Is she there yet? Who said we can't be at you?

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 2>What look?

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? But I know what, I know what the culture love,

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 3>So she's there.

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 1>She's there.

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>People follow her on Instagram and they're like, I know,

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>but but she's fun.

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 2>She goes live every week. Okay, the Empire, Empire State Building.

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Is she there yet?

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I felt like she fell off. She was there, but

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 3>something happened.

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what's not a thing anymore is when it's

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>different colors. That's not that used to be exciting. It

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.359
<v Speaker 1>used to be like it's not novel. It's like now

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 1>they're doing it for like holidays no one even knows about.

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>They're like it's neopalkan colors for National ice Cream Day,

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>or like, no it's not.

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like green for National Olive Oil Day. And

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 2>why do we have olive oil Day?

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Break phobic? I think let's just do okay, Oh, this

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>is my favorite one. One do you want to just

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>end on?

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Do you do the last one? Yeah?

0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Is she there yet the ball that drops on

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>New Years? Okay, is she there yet? Okay?

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Wait can I make a caveat yes? Oh wait, this

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 3>is only in New York because like in Georgia they

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<v Speaker 3>drop a peach.

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Well that she's there.

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 3>Amazing, that's there. And I'm from Georgia famously, so yeah.

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay. So would you say, though, between peach and ball,

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>which one's gay or which one straighter? I think the

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>peach is it's more relevant, you know. Like Also, by

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the way, New York is the big Apple. Make it

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 1>an Apple at least the Charlie Apple remix playing at

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the dam No one has imagination anymore.

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 2>They have new creative directors in this damn town.

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>We need Hoda and Jenna doing the Apple bands while

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the Apple is dropping on New Years.

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<v Speaker 3>Justice for Hodah?

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah who was there? And actually that's on Hoda issue

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>there yet? Yes?

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right.

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