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Speaker 1: Woody Who. A little show update from Stradio Lab headquarters

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Speaker 1: is that this Saturday, October nineteenth, Sam and I have

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Speaker 1: dueling shows coast to coast. So if you are in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, get your tickets to Sam Taggart and Friends

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Speaker 1: at Dynasty Typewriter featuring Chris Fleming, Sophie Buttle, Joel Kimbooster,

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Speaker 1: and Rachel Colli. And if you're in New York, get

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Speaker 1: your tickets for George Severis and Friends at Union Hall

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Speaker 1: featuring Max Witter, Britney Carney, Just Tom, and Michael Aber.

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Speaker 1: And both of those shows again are this Saturday, October nineteenth.

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Speaker 1: And next month you can see me at Joe's Pub

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Speaker 1: as part of the New York Comedy Festival, which is

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Speaker 1: so exciting and it's always been my dream to perform

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Speaker 1: there not to be a Bitch, And that is November

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Speaker 1: fourteenth and November twenty fifth. In the first show I

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Speaker 1: think is either sold out or selling out very fast,

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Speaker 1: so I get those tickets in November twenty fifth, and

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Speaker 1: all ticket links are in our various Instagram bios And

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Speaker 1: we can't wait to see you, whether you're in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles for in New York, and we promised the Toronto

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Speaker 1: show link is coming, but the show exists and it's

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Speaker 1: happening in November. Okay, I love you, enjoy the episode.

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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, how's everyone doing? Wow? Hello? Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, before we begin, I do have to

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Speaker 1: say I see some empty seats and I see some

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Speaker 1: standing people. So, honey, something is nodding on. So I

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Speaker 1: would like to invite. I would like to officially invite.

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Speaker 1: Endorsed by Chase Bank, I would like to officially invite

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Speaker 1: everyone to fill these seats, and I refuse to perform

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Speaker 1: until that happens.

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Speaker 2: WHOA that is radical? Oh yeah, taking a seat radical

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Speaker 2: if activism.

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Speaker 1: It's national coming out. If you're not seated, you're not

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Speaker 1: paying attention. All right. I mean I have to say, still,

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Speaker 1: see three seats in the front.

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Speaker 2: And roughly two hundred people standing up.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy? Is this a sweat tour? Okay? Well,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, look at that.

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Speaker 2: Look at that.

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Speaker 1: People. You know, in non branded spaces, no one pays attention,

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Speaker 1: No one listens to me when I speak, but here

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Speaker 2: No, the way that you are at home in a

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Speaker 2: branded space is scale. My god.

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Speaker 1: I feel more relaxed than I have in years. I

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Speaker 1: am meant to be in a comfortable chair in front

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Speaker 1: of two brands. Okay, speaking of which, thank you to

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Speaker 1: Chase Freedom for sponsoring our radio lab event tonight. And

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Speaker 1: we are very excited to spend National Coming Out Day

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Speaker 1: with all of you at the Stonewall National Monument Visitor

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Speaker 1: Center and Stonewall Inn and celebrate your freedom to be.

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Speaker 1: I was actually thinking my first time at Stonewall was

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Speaker 1: get this at the kickoff event for Cynthia nixon scubernatorial campaign.

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Speaker 1: And I was with my friend who was at the

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Speaker 1: time a tour guide at the Sex and the City

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Speaker 1: tour bus. That was her job, and we were like,

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Speaker 1: this is big.

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Speaker 2: I mean I remember that whole campaign and that was like,

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Speaker 2: am I in a bubble? Or is she really going

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Speaker 2: to win this?

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Speaker 1: I guess what it was the former I was in

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Speaker 1: a bubble big time. But it's okay, it's okay. One

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Speaker 1: we would never have gotten in just like that, which

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Speaker 1: I think is overall better for progressive politics.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of a less true statement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: You know, what are you gonna do for me? A

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Speaker 2: Stonewall I've actually never been inside of it. Wow, isn't

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Speaker 2: that crazy? Huh Yeah, I've never been inside I once.

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Speaker 2: This is shameful though, but it's coming out day, so

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it. I walked by it with my

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Speaker 1: And this was a long time ago. To Samwich Troby,

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Speaker 1: like what.

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Speaker 2: The what the hell's the like? Who would even go

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Speaker 2: in there? The hell? Yeah? Yeah, I was semi closet

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Speaker 2: but I was like, but I'm not really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can never be fully out while doing improp comedy.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, because you're always you could jump into

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Speaker 1: That's right. It's really scary. Actually, you know this is

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Speaker 1: Tradio Lab. I want to hear and don't be shy.

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Speaker 1: Clap if you know what the podcast is if you

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Speaker 1: listen to okay, yeah, okay, okay, cool, oh okay, passionate listeners, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: JU wantix maybe explain what it is what we study here,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep We're gonna silence for quel for as

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Speaker 1: long as possible. I really walked right into that one.

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Speaker 2: So Stradia Lab is a podcast in which we explore

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Speaker 2: the beautiful rich tapestry. That is straight culture, straight culture?

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Speaker 1: What would you say straight culture? You know, of course

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Speaker 1: there's the obvious thing sports, no show, socks.

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Speaker 2: Overhead lighting, boat shoes, math. I came a cruise is

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Speaker 2: something from straight culture that I did to myself traditional

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Speaker 1: Sam had never shaved traditionally. Traditionally, he had only ever

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Speaker 1: used an electric razor, non traditional queer shape.

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Speaker 2: and my dad was like, I was like, what do

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Speaker 1: about shaving that I think is very interesting. Please without

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Speaker 1: missing a me, Raquel was like, well, yeah, shaving is straight,

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Speaker 1: Well and George you actually had some proof well as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We had another straight experience. We witnessed something that we

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Speaker 2: We were around a straight We had a straight guest

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Speaker 2: We had a straight guest mail straight man yest yikes, non.

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Speaker 2: And he didn't know anyone, you know, any of the

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Speaker 2: He's like, oh my god, we're Travis.

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Speaker 2: And we were like, it's the straight version of cruising.

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Speaker 3: The standems are basically like sports team that's you know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's a certain standum that I cannot co sign any

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Speaker 1: sports and family values exactly.

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Speaker 2: It for our straight culture catchup.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, but you had you had a straight thing

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Speaker 1: that you just told us before we came on stage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's actually a good one. It's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember it. But laundry, Oh, laundry I

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Speaker 1: What's my street topic? And she was like, is laundry straight?

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's a prising, what is queer?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have some ketchup on your pa.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. We also said that dry cleaning was especially clear.

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Speaker 1: Should we talk about coming out?

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Speaker 3: I'm jealous. Yeah, this has gotten old.

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Speaker 3: it's like we have multiple coming out I came out

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Speaker 1: Started raining right when you came out, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, light hands, just lightning and there was a flood.

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Speaker 2: So you came out in the car.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And she was like, well, this will just be

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Speaker 3: But the thing is is, I've come out of so

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that is that is actually what horseshoe

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Speaker 3: Like and I've done it too many times. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you said that she preferred when you came

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Speaker 3: Well, she was like she was like, this makes a

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Speaker 3: like a compliment like bir you got it, that essence

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Speaker 3: Yeah basically yeah, but it's been fun. You know, she's

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Speaker 3: she's good, and my mom has come out as an ally.

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Speaker 1: Well there you go.

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Speaker 3: Over the years, I grew up very Catholic, by the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm used to that, but but it's been a journey.

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Speaker 3: And she's like now she's like on the p flag

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Speaker 3: that was like super farming of Michael And I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't that be great? That's literally my mom. She's like

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Speaker 2: That's very sweet.

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Speaker 1: Didn't your mom today send you a video of about

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Speaker 2: Yes, my mom is also too accepted. She is really

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Speaker 2: pushing me back in the closet. She today. She she

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Speaker 2: live in a small town in Michigan, and she's always like,

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Speaker 2: I saw two guys holding hands and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: So she's like, so feel free to do whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's like, if you're not holding somebody's hand, are you failing?

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Speaker 2: Literally yeah? And then she'll also be like she'll love

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Speaker 2: to be like and I saw her guy in Espeedo

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Speaker 1: My grandma was like, she saw some speech that the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, today my mom took it to a new level.

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Speaker 2: She sent me a video that's like, uh, like queer

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Speaker 2: influencer going to my mom's town. That was like, Southwest

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Speaker 2: Michigan is the best queer vacation. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She was like, I wish my son made queer influencer

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Speaker 2: I was literally like, no, it's not like there's no

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Speaker 1: Yeah, unless unless should we go.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: There's a buss outside going on. We're going to the

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Speaker 2: It's almost Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, imagine this event, but just in southwest Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I would be living.

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Speaker 3: Now. That's radical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is radical. We all get on the jet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Sowall is like on the note.

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Speaker 2: Gay and it would be my dad that.

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Speaker 1: Actually shaving cream all over. Did we want to talk

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Speaker 1: about our coming out? Well, that's it's like, so you've

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Speaker 1: come out so many times.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's iconic.

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Speaker 3: But why did you have me go first about like

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Speaker 1: God, well you know you're the guest. Wow. Yeah, ladies Chris, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well now yeah, I know ours are less exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I will say I came. I was literally about to

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Speaker 1: How did you come out?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, very gay, very very gay, and very

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're not and I have maybe like twenty five

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Speaker 2: percent Okay, I so, okay. I wrote a very salacious

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Speaker 2: and I can say in Stonewall, I was expressing my sexuality. Wow,

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Speaker 2: the light's up right when you say something like that.

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Speaker 2: I was expressing my sexuality. And I was writing in

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Speaker 2: of college and they find the journal. Wow, sort of

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Speaker 2: tales oldt time. Maybe don't document everything that you're keeping

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Speaker 2: God, that's kind of what I thought. So then they

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Speaker 2: I was like, well that was my book. Wow, Journal

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Speaker 2: With you No, ohait, sorry, but that's Baker no, like

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Speaker 2: not being the lot allegations, And so then for the

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Speaker 2: say like, well, are you dating anyone? And I would

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Speaker 2: how is she? And we'd sort of like do this

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Speaker 2: We were being we were like being in Ryan Murray's

437
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: feud y, like we were being so insane towards each other,

438
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: and like because I was just like, well you read

439
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: the journal, you tell me I'm gay, and which neither

440
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: of us were? You know, is in vulnerable time.

441
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: Take notes. This is how you should do it. Any

442
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 1: parents out there, if your kid comes out, make sure

443
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: to not address it for approximately one calendar year.

444
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: Let them sit with it, and then it became very

445
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: amicable and it was fun for sure. And then you know,

446
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: then she got into the southwest, Michigan is such an

447
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: amazing place for gay.

448
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: Right, started following queer influencers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tyler Oakley.

449
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: But the cinematic part was like sort of sitting around

450
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 2: the dinner table, you know, and then my mom being like, well,

451
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: cheers to that, and it was like, okay, well that's

452
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: clean exit.

453
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure, Well all the traumas one.

454
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: Literally pretty erased pretty quickly.

455
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're the two only psychologically well gay people.

456
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it's really cool.

457
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we've been tested and they said correct. Yeah,

458
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: so mine was messy. Okay, is that fun? That's fun?

459
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: Yes.

460
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: We were thinking, like, you know, we traditionally we talked

461
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: about straight culture on this podcast, and so we were like,

462
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: how can we twist coming out to be a straight topic?

463
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: What did and do you think coming out could be straight?

464
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: Is it?

465
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely? Like I think the most radical thing is

466
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: when people come out as ally that's right. Yeah, Like

467
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: it is so hard for people who support yes, clear

468
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: people it's very true to be open about it because

469
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 3: they might be ostracized. Yes, they're owned by their families.

470
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: Especially when they're a famous celebrity exactly.

471
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's funny though, because like coming out as

472
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: is like a queer thing obviously, like we hold it.

473
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: But it's like you can come out as like a

474
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: whole bunch of things.

475
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: That's true, you know.

476
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could come out as like, you know, someone

477
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: who loves doritos. I don't know why they're not.

478
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: This is the part, like, you know what, I think,

479
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: speaking of the sports thing, I feel like a coming out,

480
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: a straight coming out is like being in a city

481
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: where they don't support your own your team, and then

482
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: being and then like unbuttoning your shirt and you have

483
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: a Red Sox T shirt under it or like like

484
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: at the big game. I feel like that's a straight

485
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: version of coming out.

486
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: No totally. I mean there are like straight subcultures that

487
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: it does feel like sometimes they're like sometimes I feel

488
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: for them because they don't have the ritual of coming out.

489
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: It's like if you're rockabilly, well, imagine being rockabilly in

490
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: today's climate.

491
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean you're ostracized more than queer beer.

492
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: I think I fel this way about gamers.

493
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: Game that's right, gamers have to come out, what other

494
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: kind of straight people have to come out.

495
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: And they never stopped coming out.

496
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: Often unsolicited, they successfully appropriated that appropriated.

497
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, that is really true.

498
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, well should we do we we were sort

499
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: of thinking, do you think we can do I think

500
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: we should do it. We're trying to think of a

501
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: good segment for National coming Out and we were like, okay, like,

502
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: there are so many different ways you can come out

503
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: and there's no right way. You can quote me on that,

504
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: and so we were thinking of all the different ways

505
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: people we know have come out and whether they are

506
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: gay or straight. So we're gonna give Raquel a series

507
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: of sort of ways that you can come out and

508
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: then we can all chat through whether they are gay

509
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: or straight. Are you ready love it?

510
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: Let's do it?

511
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Raquel.

512
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 3: Gay?

513
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: Okay? Coming out via a heartfelt conversation with your accepting

514
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: progressive mom.

515
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 3: That's oh. I guess it depends on the era. I

516
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: felt like that's straight yet struggle can you Yeah, you're

517
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 3: day and not struggle a bit.

518
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: It's very Disney movie exactly. It's it's to be consumed.

519
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, we need there's no narrative there. You

520
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: have to overcome something, right.

521
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe let's make it up.

522
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: No, that's true, Okay, okay, okay, here's another one, coming

523
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: out via a heart warring but emotionally stunted conversation with

524
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: your progressive dad.

525
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 3: Okay, now, yes, that's like right on the nosegay. That

526
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: might be the gayest thing you can do. Yeah.

527
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: To have to talk about sexuality with your father in

528
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: any way, even if you're straight, yeah, can be traumatizing.

529
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: One of the darker relationships in my mind is when

530
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: a dad really want to talk to their son about sex.

531
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: When my dad told me after I came out to

532
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: my dad, he decided that the best thing to do

533
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: would be to watch a bunch of queer movies. But

534
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: he was not looking. He was just googling gay movies

535
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: and he was not like looking into whether they were

536
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: like critically acclaimed or you know whatever. And so he

537
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: watched that movie weekend. Oh sure includes I don't know

538
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: if we're allowed to say this in the Chase Bunster event,

539
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: but it includes bodily fluids Out and Proud a national

540
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: coming out Day. And then he goes, that was one

541
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: of the better movies I've seen on the subject.

542
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 3: And that was how your father came out.

543
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: Talk about Okay, I was like very sophisticate, very Sundance

544
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: film festival of you to be like, well, I have

545
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: to watch a critically acclaimed mumblecore film about two gay

546
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: guys in London.

547
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, well that's amazing.

548
00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, well anyway, well anyway, okay, Raquel here, Okay, coming

549
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: out at a school assembly.

550
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: I mean that feels gay, but very like mid two

551
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: thousands gay, you know, to.

552
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: Want an audience is gay? Yeah, I actually think it's

553
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: so much more, you know, I think it's so much

554
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: more going to come out to a crowd than to

555
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: an individual person because you're avoiding the vulnerability.

556
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: You're immediately saying like this is a performance. I am

557
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: a performer. Life is a cabarette.

558
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: Exactly, and you just like strut down, you know those

559
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: like tables that are jointed together, and you're like kicking

560
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: off people's and the milk is flying on your bully

561
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: and everything is okay.

562
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: Everything is okay. I mean, to be in high school

563
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: and sort of think you need to give a press

564
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: conference is one of the gayer mindsets one can happen.

565
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: But there's a there's a side quest here Okay. This

566
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: made me think of, like, I don't know, I am

567
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: this fictionalized moment where like the lunch lady is like clapping,

568
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: she's happy for you. But then I think about, like

569
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: how gay it us to have that like one teacher

570
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: like staff member that like everyone knows it's queer, but

571
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: like they can't be out. And then you like hear

572
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 3: everything that your peers say and you're like, oh, okay,

573
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: this is how you would react if I said something. Yeah,

574
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: and it could be good or not.

575
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: But.

576
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly internal turmoil is queer, yeah, and external turmoil

577
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: is straight.

578
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

579
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: And I'm sticking by that.

580
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: And shout out to my gay you know, I don't

581
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: want to, but but she is queer and we know

582
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: it because of Facebook, because there was a point where

583
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: we all like friended our former teachers for whatever reason

584
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: on Facebook. But when I came out and I got

585
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: really bullied. She was the teacher that was known as

586
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: like giving like the red slips to everyone just for

587
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: like any little infraction, like it could have been a

588
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: dress code violation. It was always a dress covidvie elation.

589
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: She never gave me anymore after I came out, Like

590
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: I felt so held by her not saying anything about

591
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: her identity, but just not giving me a red that's

592
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: really nice.

593
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should have taken advantage of it and shown

594
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: up dressed like, you know, the chiquita banana.

595
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: It's like you.

596
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Should have turned to literally like turned like Gaga looks

597
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: every day. You're like, what are you gonna do? I'm queer?

598
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: And that was prime Gaga time.

599
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.

600
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: Okay. The next one is coming out when you have

601
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: approximately one beer at the after party for the high

602
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: school musical where you were just doing tech by the way,

603
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: and you decide this is the perfect time to tell everyone.

604
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: It's gay because it's so long of a prom.

605
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: You know, and I would say specifically lesbian.

606
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, well the beer, well, I mean what

607
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: about the tech?

608
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Okay, coming out via a notes app screenshot to your

609
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: Instagram grid that is titled my truth.

610
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: They're not really gay. I can't. I can't give them

611
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: that text app.

612
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: No notes app text, You need visuals.

613
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: You need a video show.

614
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: Now, like no queer is going to give that up?

615
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Raquel is commenting, No, you're not.

616
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: All right?

617
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Okay. The next one is on a podcast interview.

618
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: Depends on the podcast exactly.

619
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: This could go either way.

620
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: What would what would make it gayer, what would make

621
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: it straighter?

622
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Coming out on Stradio Lab, They're like, maybe we've inspired

623
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: some people.

624
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I think all these closes people are about to

625
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: come out.

626
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: Okay, what about coming out on the cover of Time

627
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: magazine with the headline Yep, I'm gay.

628
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: Okay, we have to give credit where credit is.

629
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: I think without her there would be no notes, that right.

630
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: And we're just gonna say without her, we're not going

631
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: to say any names. No, but yes, I mean yes,

632
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: like that, Yes, that was iconic.

633
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: She gets a shovel for that.

634
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: Did they know about the listeners either going to know

635
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: about the shovel?

636
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: Well, I assume the shovel symbolized people that have contributed

637
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: to this space. But what's really amazing is that there's

638
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: sort of well. Sam made the point that Donna telever side,

639
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: she next to AARP, feels pointed.

640
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: It feels like a read.

641
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: And then there is definitely a whole road that's all

642
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: brands except for Christina Aguilera. Yeah, but I'm like, imagine

643
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: how powerful Christina eguire is that she's literally competing with

644
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: Amazon in booking dot Com. She's like booking dot com, Honey,

645
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: I'll show you who's both. I'm so happy I stuck

646
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: that landing.

647
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: Okay, coming out via an it Gets Better video.

648
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: Vintage Okay, coming out through very explicit lyrics and a

649
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: song you wrote for a major label. No, that's gotta

650
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: be coded for a while. Yes, that's the gay struggle

651
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: for the Superstar.

652
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it's almost like that's the notes app version of

653
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: a song, like leave a little something, write my truth

654
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: and nothing else.

655
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: Yes, okay. By clapping back at the haters on Instagram live.

656
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: And they're saying like what, like, yeah, you're right, I'm gay.

657
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: They're like, I am gay.

658
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.

659
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: I think being confrontational when possible is the correct way

660
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: to go.

661
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's sort of how I did it.

662
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's very you coded, like it's.

663
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: Queerer through live because it could be temporary exactly, but

664
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: like you're going to choose not to make it temporary,

665
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: and you're gonna post.

666
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: This exactly, and I feel like my truth notes up.

667
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: It's like I'm commenting coward. Go on live, Yeah, go

668
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: on live, and then I want to see your face.

669
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 3: We want to see the anguish all of it, exactly okay.

670
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Coming out by saying you don't believe in labels after

671
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: paparazzi photos were leaked.

672
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: That's kind of gay. That's kind of gay. You know

673
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: you got a gas a little bit, like that's reparations

674
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: for us.

675
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: Gas like gatekeep girlbost exactly okay, okay. By being very

676
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: publicly friends with another gay celebrity and hoping people catch on.

677
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: Like a that Charles, that's not Charles. What's his name? James?

678
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: Charles?

679
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Who am I talking about? Wait?

680
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: You mean he's the one that they would be friends with?

681
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I love that You're like make up.

682
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: Wait but from no, no, I'm saying if you were friends,

683
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: you were friends, like if you were not out but

684
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: you started hanging out with.

685
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, maybe you're like maybe a f F Wait

686
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: say it again?

687
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Wait I lost I lost the Okay. So it's like,

688
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: you come out by being very publicly friends with a

689
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: gay celebrity and just like not addressing any rumors.

690
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: I kind of like, I kind of like, uh, okay, okay,

691
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 3: but then it would be funny if you came out astray.

692
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Coming out by winning an Academy Award and

693
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: thinking your partner, your rock Judith.

694
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's gay.

695
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: Thanking Judith by name. It's brave, you're on a stage.

696
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: It's cinematic.

697
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: It's cinematic. Well you won for cinematography. Okay, that deserves

698
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: a little more.

699
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: Okay, And this one's appropriate. By using a gay slur

700
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: on Watch What Happens Live and being like I can

701
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: say that I'm gay.

702
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: That fills a little straight somebody.

703
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that is straight.

704
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: And you got to get them off your back, right,

705
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna get canceled, and then you have to figure

706
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: out how to get uncanceled.

707
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: Apparently it's self preservation. Yeah, wow, a lot. I think

708
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: we've learned a lot.

709
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: Should we do our final segment? Yeah, we have a

710
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: segment that we do at all our live shows, and

711
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: we thought it would be especially fun to do with

712
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: Raquel and I cannot wait to tell the story in

713
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: this room. So this is a segment called issue There Yet.

714
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: And it started because a friend of ours, her name

715
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: is Celeste. They were at the Toronto Film Festival and

716
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: they were there for the premiere of the Grace Jones

717
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: documentary and so at this talkback, the director was like,

718
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, we just there's no icons like Grace Jones anymore.

719
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: There's no icons like that anymore. And someone in the

720
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: audience said, what about Janelle Maney And then the director said,

721
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: she's not there yet? Now I am. I will not

722
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: be commenting on that, and neither will Sam and we

723
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: never will and we never will. But from that story,

724
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: this game was born. By the way, yes, and we

725
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: are on and Raquel is on record as saying she

726
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: is there yet?

727
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: Correct? Yeah.

728
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So from that story we created this game called

729
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: Issue There Yet. We're basically going to give Raquel a

730
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: series of celebrities, people, places, things, concepts, and we'll all

731
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: chat about Issue there Yet.

732
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: And we've decided to do New.

733
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: York and they're in New York and yes it's New

734
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: York icons. So it's all New York themed tonight in

735
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: honor of Stonewall.

736
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: I won't be able to get home if I say

737
00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 3: the wrong answer.

738
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: Okay, recalled the first one, SA Parker, is she there yet?

739
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 3: She's there?

740
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's there, thank you. Oh my god, I was

741
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: I was scared. I was like, she could be in here.

742
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: This is exactly the kind of.

743
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: Eventual She's right outside.

744
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

745
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: The opening of the a Coming Out Day event at

746
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: the Stonewall Visitor Center. Sarah Parker's like handing out finger food. Okay,

747
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: jay Z, y'all are evil?

748
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: Is she there yet?

749
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: She's there?

750
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: She's there, I think, jay Z.

751
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I live in Brooklyn, Hunty, so again, I gotta

752
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: get home?

753
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. And I think jay Z would also

754
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: be an event like this because famously he has a

755
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: lesbian mother.

756
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

757
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well not all of us can say that, but.

758
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: But jay Z can. Okay, the Statue of Liberty.

759
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Is she there yet?

760
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Is she there yet?

761
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: Is she there? I like her? She's there, She's there.

762
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 3: She means a lot to a lot of people.

763
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: Girl, Yeah, just girl.

764
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: Love a selfie near her?

765
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, timeless gown yeah, teal colored.

766
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: The tiaras a lot. But she's having fun.

767
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: She's she's holding a book but not reading.

768
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: Very gay there, it's upside down.

769
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: She's like instagramming it with a little thing of coffee.

770
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Patty, she's and she's there again, Honey. I'm loving

771
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: Agatha all the way. Yes, yeah, Witches are there too.

772
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: Witches are there? You know? I read that it's goth

773
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: girl fall in some failing publication.

774
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: I feel bad about the autumn. She's like the autumn

775
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: girl bottomn ball girl.

776
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh that's right. It is a direct attack

777
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: on her.

778
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: I was too traumatized.

779
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: It's like Christian right, right, right, for sure?

780
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Pizza Rat, is she there yet?

781
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: She's not there? I don't think I'm not going to

782
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: give it.

783
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: She had one single, yeah right, Pizza Rat was giving

784
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: industry plan to me. I'm like, there is no way

785
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: all of you find this so funny. It's not that funny.

786
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 2: It's like a pizza Yeah. That may be mad.

787
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if it was, you know, like if we

788
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: knew what kind of it was giving, maybe maybe that's right.

789
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, this is a classic New York figure, a

790
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: French influencer taking a selfie on a rooftop bar in Williamsburg.

791
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: Is she there yet?

792
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: She's not.

793
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: She's not, She's not.

794
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: She was in Bushwick.

795
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: Maybe that's true.

796
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: And maybe if she was at a mead bar that

797
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: would be amazing. Yeah, you guys don't know about mead bars. Okay,

798
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: midtown crowd, okay, sex and the city. Is she there yet?

799
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: She's there? But I'm traumatized by her. But she's there.

800
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: She that's like why she's there, like the way that

801
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: she can cause trauma, and like how I keep going back.

802
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: That's someone who's there.

803
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: But yes, I want to ask a follow up question,

804
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: which is, can you please ring from Gata straight the

805
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Four Women of Sex and the City.

806
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: Oh from Gaeta strait. Oh, well, Miranda's gayest for sure? Okay,

807
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: that should I never understood what was going on there,

808
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: I want to say. I want to say Charlotte a second,

809
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: like there's something about like prim and proper but like

810
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: secretly very clear. Wow, Samantha of course, but I know

811
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: I think Samantha's on her own right.

812
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Like Samantha is a gay guy.

813
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so like it's it's understood.

814
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: So and then carries the most carefus fully straight personal

815
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: that's why shes finger food. That's right, she's such an

816
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: ally that she doesn't actually know what gay is.

817
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: Okay. Next one, ellis Island.

818
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: Is she there yet?

819
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: Is she there yet?

820
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: Given the climate? She's there?

821
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: That's right, she needs all the help she can gets

822
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: important to take in the context, Yes, thank you, you

823
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: are doing a great job of living in the context.

824
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: No one has been hit with a coconut.

825
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Here okay, Oh this is a classic New York figure,

826
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: a very buzzy, up and coming visual artist who is

827
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: secretly the daughter of an arms dealer.

828
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Is she there yet? Who said we can't be at you?

829
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: What look?

830
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I know what, I know what the culture love,

831
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: So she's there.

832
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: She's there.

833
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

834
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: People follow her on Instagram and they're like, I know,

835
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: but but she's fun.

836
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: She goes live every week. Okay, the Empire, Empire State Building.

837
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: Is she there yet?

838
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: I felt like she fell off. She was there, but

839
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: something happened.

840
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: You know what's not a thing anymore is when it's

841
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: different colors. That's not that used to be exciting. It

842
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: used to be like it's not novel. It's like now

843
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: they're doing it for like holidays no one even knows about.

844
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: They're like it's neopalkan colors for National ice Cream Day,

845
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: or like, no it's not.

846
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like green for National Olive Oil Day. And

847
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: why do we have olive oil Day?

848
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: Break phobic? I think let's just do okay, Oh, this

849
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: is my favorite one. One do you want to just

850
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: end on?

851
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: Oh? Do you do the last one? Yeah?

852
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: Okay? Is she there yet the ball that drops on

853
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: New Years? Okay, is she there yet? Okay?

854
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Wait can I make a caveat yes? Oh wait, this

855
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: is only in New York because like in Georgia they

856
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: drop a peach.

857
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: Well that she's there.

858
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: Amazing, that's there. And I'm from Georgia famously, so yeah.

859
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay. So would you say, though, between peach and ball,

860
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: which one's gay or which one straighter? I think the

861
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: peach is it's more relevant, you know. Like Also, by

862
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: the way, New York is the big Apple. Make it

863
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: an Apple at least the Charlie Apple remix playing at

864
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: the dam No one has imagination anymore.

865
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: They have new creative directors in this damn town.

866
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: We need Hoda and Jenna doing the Apple bands while

867
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: the Apple is dropping on New Years.

868
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: Justice for Hodah?

869
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 1: Yeah who was there? And actually that's on Hoda issue

870
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: there yet? Yes?

871
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

872
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: And that's give it up for a cow Wells Everybody

873
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,560
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874
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00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,840
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00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,160
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Speaker 2: Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

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Speaker 2: Executive produced by Will Ferrell, Han Soni and Olivia Aguilar.

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Speaker 1: Co produced by Bei Wang, Edited and engineered by Adam Avalos.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grum.

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Speaker 2: Theme music by Ben Kling