WEBVTT - Biden Stuns Nation by Deciding to Pull from 2024 Race

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden has officially dropped out of the presidential race. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>it is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with

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<v Speaker 1>you on this special podcast. Senator, you predicted this ten

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<v Speaker 1>months ago. It has now become a reality. Your initial reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, today is an historic day. We are one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and six days out from the presidential election and the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat nominee for president, the sitting Democrat president, is out.

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<v Speaker 2>He will not be on the ballot, he will not

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<v Speaker 2>be the candidate. At this point, the Democrat Party is

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<v Speaker 2>in utter disarray. Chaos is erupting. We're going to break

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<v Speaker 2>down exactly what is likely to happen next. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to walk all through the steps to expect in the

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty days between now an election day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's start with what's happened over the

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<v Speaker 1>last week. Democrats witnessed an incredible GOP convention. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I were there. It's the most I think unity I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen the Republican Party at a convention, doubtedly, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were, I think, really concerned after the convention of

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<v Speaker 1>a big bump. How do you reset a race you

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<v Speaker 1>get in your new candidate. And I think they clearly

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<v Speaker 1>saw that. We saw the big five Democratic families and

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<v Speaker 1>the media coalesced behind forcing him to get out. I

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<v Speaker 1>think some sort of deal had to happen to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that Joe Biden and his family are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken care of. Kamala Harris was the obvious choice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's now who he's endorsed, and other Democrats seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be jumping on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, I think this was inevitable, as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>as of the night of the debate, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>the momentum of it accelerated number one with the assassination

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<v Speaker 2>attempt on President Trump. Number two with the very successful

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<v Speaker 2>presidential convention we just had a Milwaukee I think Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>were in absolute panic. They were in panic earlier today,

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<v Speaker 2>poll numbers came out of Michigan that had Trump leading

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<v Speaker 2>Biden in Michigan by seven points. You want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about something to put put Democrats in cold sweats. If

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<v Speaker 2>they're losing Michigan by seven points, go ahead and pull

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<v Speaker 2>the curtains down, roll up the rug. It's all over.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they did this. That would have happened regardless,

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<v Speaker 2>even if the debate had been even if the convention

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<v Speaker 2>rather had been bumpy, even if Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>had not happened. I believe we'd still have Biden out

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<v Speaker 2>of the race. But the Democrats, we saw each of

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<v Speaker 2>the major constituencies of the Democrat Party line up against

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden in force amount. He did not want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not go willingly, but one after the other,

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<v Speaker 2>starting with Democrats in Congress, Nancy Pelosi came out against him,

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Schumer came out against him, Hakeem Jeffries came out

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<v Speaker 2>against him. And it was all self interest. All the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats in Congress were looking at their poles saying, holy cow,

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<v Speaker 2>we're about to lose, and they all lined up against him.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also saw you saw Barack Obama quietly coming

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<v Speaker 2>out against him. He put out a quick tweet in

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<v Speaker 2>support of him, but he also signed off on George

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<v Speaker 2>Clooney representing Hollywood abandoning him, saying Joe, get out. We

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<v Speaker 2>saw the corporate media uniformly pushing him out, We saw

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<v Speaker 2>the donors pushing him out, and the pressure became too

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<v Speaker 2>much to bear. One senator after another senator after another

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<v Speaker 2>senator on the Democrat side, Biden didn't have a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say it was very savvy of them

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<v Speaker 2>to wait until after this convention. But let's let's just

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<v Speaker 2>first go with the news. So today, here's what Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden put out this afternoon. This is the letter he

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<v Speaker 2>put out. He tweeted it out. This This screenshot is

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<v Speaker 2>from twelve forty six pm. Interestingly enough, it had ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five point nine million views already. Yeah, I just checked

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<v Speaker 2>a minute ago, where about two hours later it was

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<v Speaker 2>up to one hundred and sixty one million views. This

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<v Speaker 2>is his resignation letter. And rather than you and me

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<v Speaker 2>read it, which which should be fine, but we'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to say words that are demonstrably untrue, things claiming that

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<v Speaker 2>Biden had actually done something well, that his record was

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<v Speaker 2>something other than the train record is, rather than you

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<v Speaker 2>or me read it, I think we're better off engaging

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<v Speaker 2>in a bit of schadenfreud and so watching Jensaki on MSNBC.

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<v Speaker 1>Rea Umber White House Press Secretary, Joe Biden's press secretary,

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<v Speaker 1>having to carry the water, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, look, since I said that there are

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<v Speaker 2>a number of lies about his record, Jensaki is actually

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<v Speaker 2>quite accomplished at reading lies. But for those of you

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<v Speaker 2>watching this as a video pod, so this is one.

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<v Speaker 2>We do this podcast three days a week. All three

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<v Speaker 2>of them are on audio, typically one a week is

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<v Speaker 2>on video. This is one of the video and audiopods.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say, if you're listening on audio, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>encourage you to go to YouTube and watch it on

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<v Speaker 2>video because to watch Jensaki's face, you cannot fully appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the agony without watching it as she's reading these words,

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<v Speaker 2>and as we're watching the Democrat Party light itself on fire. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>give a listen, give a watch.

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<v Speaker 3>We have breaking news here. President Biden has announced he

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<v Speaker 3>will stand down from the race. We're going to read

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<v Speaker 3>the statement here.

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<v Speaker 2>Her expression, which is actually frozen on the screen right now,

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<v Speaker 2>she's about to cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean she's like, what has just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>my world?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, it is that's all right, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>keep playing.

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<v Speaker 3>We also have Tim Miller, who's going to be joining

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<v Speaker 3>us shortly. Over the past, my fellow Americans, over the

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<v Speaker 3>past three and a half years, we have made great

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<v Speaker 3>progress as a nation. Today, America has the strongest economy

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<v Speaker 3>in the world. We've made historic investments in rebuilding our nation,

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<v Speaker 3>in lowering prescription drug costs for seniors, and in expanding

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<v Speaker 3>affordable healthcare to a record number of Americans. We've provided

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<v Speaker 3>critically needed care to you have a million veterans exposed

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<v Speaker 3>to toxic substances. Past the first thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to read off the paper here, past

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<v Speaker 3>the first safety law in thirty years, appointed the first

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<v Speaker 3>African American woman to the Supreme Court, and passed the

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<v Speaker 3>most significant climate legislation in the history of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, really, that's I mean, she just goes straight

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<v Speaker 1>into it and is like totally lost, like what just

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<v Speaker 1>happened to us?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Joe Biden has suspended as you and I predicted

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<v Speaker 2>ten months ago, as you and I predicted a month

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<v Speaker 2>ago on the debate, and he will not be on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot. That has never happened before. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>closest analog is the nineteen sixty eight Democrat convention, which

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<v Speaker 2>was in Chicago as well. That is the last time

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<v Speaker 2>you had an incumbent Democrat president and that case Lyndon B. Johnson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not run for reelection. Now, Lyndon B. Johnson, Why did

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<v Speaker 2>he not run for reelection? A big part of it

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<v Speaker 2>is he'd lost the support of the American people. He'd

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<v Speaker 2>lost the sport of a Republic of independence and Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>and when you lose all of them, there ain't nobody left.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the middle of the Vietnam War. Unlike Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not that he was too old. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just that he was physically worn down and tired, and

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<v Speaker 2>he'd lost the American people, and so LBJ didn't run,

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<v Speaker 2>and you had you want to talk about an incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>contentious election. In that election, there was a guy named

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<v Speaker 2>Robert F. Kennedy who was running. That tragically is the

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<v Speaker 2>election cycle where Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in the course

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<v Speaker 2>of the cycle. But he was for a period the

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<v Speaker 2>rising star. You ended up having lbj's vice president, Hubert Humphrey,

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<v Speaker 2>got the nomination, but it was an incredibly close and

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<v Speaker 2>contested race because you had a challenge from the left

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<v Speaker 2>and a challenge from the left over Vietnam a chaotic convention,

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<v Speaker 2>and outside you had rabid protesters engaged in violence and rioting.

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<v Speaker 2>Think we may literally be seeing history repeating itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about and there's two aspects of what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to ask you. Number One, we see early on,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the front runner is Kamla Harris. We see

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<v Speaker 1>people coalescing behind her. But the real question is how

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<v Speaker 1>did she get that support so quickly from this president?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the deal that's being done behind the scenes?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this White House staffers making sure, Hey, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in and keep my power, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>better chance of keeping it with Coma than going with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else. All these people and jobs in around Biden

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<v Speaker 1>hare so like, hey, I can keep my power if

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<v Speaker 1>she's the person or was it hey He's saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I trust you Coma to take care of me, protect

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<v Speaker 1>my son, possibly give out clem and see or pardons

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<v Speaker 1>that may be needed down the road. How did the

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<v Speaker 1>sausage get made on this deal?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's go back to Biden's resignation letter.

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<v Speaker 2>Put that back up there. If you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>resignation letter that when he put it out earlier today,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, and I'm going to finish reading from where

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<v Speaker 2>we cut off on Jensaki. It's been the greatest honor

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<v Speaker 2>of my life to serve as your president. And while

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<v Speaker 2>it has been my intention to seek reelection, the damned

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats dromad of office. No, you didn't say that, he says.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it isn't the best interest of my party,

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<v Speaker 2>notice his party first, yep, and the country for me

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<v Speaker 2>to stand down and focus solely on fulfilling my duties

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<v Speaker 2>as president for the remainder of my term. I will

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<v Speaker 2>speak to the nation later this week in more detail

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<v Speaker 2>about my decision. For now, let me express my deepest

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<v Speaker 2>gratitude to all those who work so hard to see

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<v Speaker 2>me reelect it. I want to thank Vice President Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris for being an extraordinary partner in all this work.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me express my heartfelt appreciation to the American

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<v Speaker 2>people for the faith and trust you have placed in me. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Interestingly enough, in this resignation letter, you notice what he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>I fully endorse.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't mention endorsement at all. He says. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to thank Kamala Harris, and he's silent. Now he puts

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<v Speaker 2>that out, and I'm assuming when he puts that out,

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<v Speaker 2>the powers that be in the White House and in

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party freaked the hell out. Yeah, lost their minds,

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<v Speaker 2>lost their minds. And so shortly thereafter, look at the

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<v Speaker 2>tweet he put out as a follow up, like it

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<v Speaker 2>says something your resignation letter. It's kind of odd to

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<v Speaker 2>need a follow up.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a quick follow up at that very quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow up, but there was enough time. That other one

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<v Speaker 2>was twelve forty six. This is one thirteen, so you

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<v Speaker 2>know time passed. And then he sends out another tweet.

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<v Speaker 2>My fellow Democrats, I've decided not to accept the nomination

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<v Speaker 2>to focus all my energies on my duties as president

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<v Speaker 2>for the remainder of my term. Notice that was in

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<v Speaker 2>his letter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>My very first decision as the party nominee in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty was to pick Kamala Harris as my vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the best decision I've made today. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to

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<v Speaker 2>be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats, it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to come together and beat Trump. Let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>So delayed reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>So at this point, Kamala is clearly the front runner.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden is explicitly supporting her. In the time that followed,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Clinton came out in support of her, Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>came out in support of her. Alex Soros has come

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<v Speaker 2>out in support of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex, by the way, maybe one of the most important

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<v Speaker 1>actual endorsements because it's follow the money well.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, George Soros has been the most important donor

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<v Speaker 2>behind not just the Democrat Party, but the radical leftist,

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<v Speaker 2>the cultural Marxist, the anti Semitic protesters on campus. Soros

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<v Speaker 2>has been funding all of that. According to multiple reports,

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<v Speaker 2>George Soros's mental condition and mental deterioration is at least

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<v Speaker 2>where Biden's is, if not substantially worse. And it's the

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<v Speaker 2>son Alex Soros is the one that's now making the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>So understand when Alex Soros tweets out that he's behind

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris, what he's saying is the money is behind

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris. You're going to see a lot of that now.

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<v Speaker 2>Interestingly enough, there's some other Democrats who are not quick

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<v Speaker 2>to get on board. So, for example, take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at what Gavin Newsom tweeted, President Biden has been an

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary history making president, a leader who has fought hard

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<v Speaker 2>for working people and delivered astonishing results for all Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>He will go down in history as one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most impactful and selfless presidents. Thank you, Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's not much of an endorsement.

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<v Speaker 2>There is though, whose name's not there? Yeah, Kamala and

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<v Speaker 2>interesting enough. Now, look, Gavin is not lacking an ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the very PC way of putting it. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that it He's like, let's go to the convention, let's

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<v Speaker 1>have this thing out.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be interesting. And by the way, earlier today there

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<v Speaker 2>were was all sorts of chatter that Hillary Clinton was

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<v Speaker 2>going to make a play for this. It is interesting

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<v Speaker 2>that she and Bill came out very quickly and said

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<v Speaker 2>let's get behind Kamala. I'm going to see lots of chatter.

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<v Speaker 2>There are Democrats talking about wanting to have a open convention,

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<v Speaker 2>a sort of mini primary battle, have the delegates decide

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<v Speaker 2>under DNC rules. Initially, the delegates will vote. It's being

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<v Speaker 2>speculated that Biden will release his delegates and say vote

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<v Speaker 2>for whom you want, and there may be a process.

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<v Speaker 2>They may do a process where Kamala RAN's and a

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<v Speaker 2>handful of other people ron and they have a first ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Under the DNC rules, the so called super delegates. Those

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<v Speaker 2>include things like governors, things like senators. They don't vote

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<v Speaker 2>until the second ballot, So the first ballot is the

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<v Speaker 2>actual elected delegates. And if they were elected to support

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden, if they've been released here whatever they want,

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<v Speaker 2>they can do whatever they want. I think at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, there's gonna be a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of noise, there's gonna be a little bit of squawking.

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<v Speaker 2>But I stand by my prediction from day one that

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<v Speaker 2>there is one person, in one person only for whom

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats will be willing to push Kamala Harris aside,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is Michelle Obama. It doesn't appear right now

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<v Speaker 2>that Michelle is willing to get in now, that could

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<v Speaker 2>be on August surprise. We've got nearly a month until

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrat Convention.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we just talk horse trading so people understand what

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna look like for the next thirty days.

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<v Speaker 1>Behind the scenes, delegates now have the power to pick

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<v Speaker 1>who the president could be. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Why is that because the Democrat Party. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>they knew that Joe Biden was mentally incompetent. They knew

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago. They ran him anyway. They had the voters,

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<v Speaker 2>all the Democrat voters come vote for him, even though

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<v Speaker 2>they knew he was mentally incompetent, that he couldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>the job now. He couldn't do the job then, but

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted power. The only thing that changed is with

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<v Speaker 2>the debate, it became untenable. The American people realized this

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<v Speaker 2>guy is not capable of doing the job anymore. It

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<v Speaker 2>was only because they feared they were going to lose

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<v Speaker 2>that the Democrats have abandoned him. But the consequence of

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<v Speaker 2>that is the Democrats were perfectly fine with Democrat primary

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<v Speaker 2>voters being completely disenfranchised. You will not get to select

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrat nominee ya.

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<v Speaker 1>This person will be elected by no one in the public.

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<v Speaker 1>It will all be done with horse trading that can

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<v Speaker 1>happen on.

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<v Speaker 2>A handful of elite's, a handful of special interest, which

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<v Speaker 2>actually is pretty typical of who the Democrat Party is

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<v Speaker 2>actually true, the irony is that they engage in Freudian

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<v Speaker 2>projection at an historic level where everything they accuse their

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<v Speaker 2>opponents of is what they're doing. But Democrat primary voters

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<v Speaker 2>will have no say in who the nominee is. It

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<v Speaker 2>will be powerbrokers in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just paint behind the scenes so people understand

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<v Speaker 1>the corruption that can come out of this. If you

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<v Speaker 1>need delegates to get the nomination and you coalesce in

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<v Speaker 1>smaller groups and then you go forward and say hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so and so I'm representing thirty five people in

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<v Speaker 1>this state California. You can't win without us. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like this, and this person would like this, and this

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<v Speaker 1>person will like this, and this person would like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and their kids would like these jobs in the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>If you give us this, you get all of our votes.

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<v Speaker 1>That is exactly what we've seen happen at state level.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen corruption happen in a way when they're replacing

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<v Speaker 1>a seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Rodygoievitch went to jail for basically selling a Senate seat.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to happen now one hundred thousand times over.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, put on top of that, the

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<v Speaker 2>big labor unions and the big money players, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats party so corrupt, and the Sierra Club and the

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<v Speaker 2>pro abortion groups and all of the difference. The Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>Party today is a coalition of rent seekers, of people

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<v Speaker 2>who make their money suckling off the teet of government.

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<v Speaker 2>That's who they are, and it is all about power

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<v Speaker 2>and influence. Many of them. The reason they were willing

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<v Speaker 2>to back someone who was obviously not mentally competent to

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<v Speaker 2>be president is because they all stayed in power. Now

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly Joe Biden is going to be gone, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they're all desperately scrambling how do I keep my power?

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to see that play out. What I

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<v Speaker 2>think will happen at the end of the day, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>number one, the Democrats are too much of racial and

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<v Speaker 2>gender being counters to push an African American woman aside

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<v Speaker 2>for a white guy. So anyone looking at Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>or anyone else, I just don't think that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I think Michelle Obama is the only person

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<v Speaker 2>who could push her aside, And at least right now,

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<v Speaker 2>it does not see Michelle is trying to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's not Michelle, I think we will see Kamala Harrison.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the real battle is going to be who

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<v Speaker 2>the VP is.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you about the VP. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to that, is it fair to say that

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<v Speaker 1>this might be the most corrupt picking of a presidential

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<v Speaker 1>candidate in modern political history because of the time that

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<v Speaker 1>people have to build their power and to basically an essence,

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<v Speaker 1>sell their vote.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's perhaps now not to be fair. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>happened yet, But it's all going to be behind closed doors.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be the voters. It's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in public. It's one thing if you campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>Look at some level, you could say all campaigns are

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<v Speaker 2>in a way about buying votes. If you campaign and

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<v Speaker 2>say I'm for Medicare for all, for socialized medicure, you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying the Democrats are big on being the Santa

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<v Speaker 2>Claus Party. We'll give you free stuff if you vote

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<v Speaker 2>for us. That's one thing. Different level, it's a totally

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<v Speaker 2>different if you make a public promise in the press

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<v Speaker 2>that I will support a law that that has broad effect.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Joe Biden, I'm gonna give away a trillion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to people who have student loans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, vote for me. I'm buying your vote.

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<v Speaker 2>That is very different from you know, Ben, you control

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<v Speaker 2>a pocket of votes. You ever thought of being Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>of the Navy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You like votes?

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Or I hear there's a great house in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>And the ambassadorship there's really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's we're going to see that happening every

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<v Speaker 2>day now, mind you. You're going to get competing people

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<v Speaker 2>making those promises. And in terms of the vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be part of the negotiation is who

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala team's up with to try to lock down lock

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<v Speaker 2>down the power brokers in the Democrat Party. And one

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<v Speaker 2>question is does she try to quickly buy off whoever

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<v Speaker 2>she thinks her most formidable adversary is Possibly? Does she

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<v Speaker 2>try to get all of the potential adversaries to compete

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:21.159
<v Speaker 2>wooing for her affection more likely, But it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>take an entire month playing out for us to see well.

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<v Speaker 1>And can you promise someone the vice presidency so they

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<v Speaker 1>talk about VP. Forget what we just went through. Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody who was never on a ballot yep, that no

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<v Speaker 1>one's ever voted for for vice president is all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden going to become the vice president the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America, possibly certainly will be the nominee for

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party. How do they pick? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people understand this. It's confusing enough picking

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<v Speaker 1>the now Kamala Harris or whoever it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say it is Kamla. It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more orderly. How the hell are we going to get

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<v Speaker 1>the vice president? You'll pick for the Democratic Party? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, they're going to decide who brings the most to

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<v Speaker 2>the ticket. Often you look at geographic concerns. Will someone

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<v Speaker 2>put a state into play? Will someone be beneficial? Sometimes

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you look to things like, as someone a great fundraiser,

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<v Speaker 2>will they bring a bunch of donors? Will they bring

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<v Speaker 2>other interest groups on board? Sometimes you look to neutralize

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's a potential opponent. In this instance, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats are one hundred percent about race and gender.

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 2>It's how they think. It's how they're wired. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>look at individuals. It's DEI, so it is di I.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the VP nominee will be a boring white guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my prediction. And they're there. They actually have a

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<v Speaker 2>number of boring white guys. So so so they have

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<v Speaker 2>a broad.

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<v Speaker 1>So who picks it? Is it the person who gets

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<v Speaker 1>the nomination, So there's no voting by the delegates. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't understand the process.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be. My guess is Kamala will announce who

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<v Speaker 2>her VP is going to be before they vote. It

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<v Speaker 2>could conceivably be afterwards. It depends. If there's a real contested.

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<v Speaker 1>Battle at the convention, Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Then then maybe she doesn't announce it until after she's

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<v Speaker 2>the nominee. Typically, the way it happens is the nominee

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<v Speaker 2>is sewn up before the convention. It's been a long

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<v Speaker 2>time since we've had a contested convention, and we've there's

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<v Speaker 2>been uncertainty as to who the nominee is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>If the if the if the vote is really contentious

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a drag out, knockdown at the convention. You're

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<v Speaker 1>saying there's a legit possibility that whoever comes away with

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<v Speaker 1>it will will barely survive that they get the nomination.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, Hey, in a week or two, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you who my VP is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I think it would be at the convention.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it would be immediately thereafter. And if there

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<v Speaker 2>is a real fight, I mean, one thing that has happened,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you could go to whoever's number two and say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make you a VP if you drop out and

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<v Speaker 2>endorse me, and that could be how you lock up

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<v Speaker 2>the votes. I don't think it'll come to that. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think people will coalesce around Kammalin more quickly than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the front runner then right now in your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously this could change in a couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you

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<v Speaker 2>two names, and why Josh Shapiro.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and tell people that don't know Josh who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the governor of Pennsylvania. He is widely perceived

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<v Speaker 2>as a moderate. He is Jewish. He was attorney general

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania. I think what is compelling is number one.

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Shapiro has strong polling numbers in Pennsylvania. If the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>can win Pennsylvania, the path to Trump winning becomes much

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<v Speaker 2>much harder. He's also perceived as a moderate, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think actually naming a Jewish Democrat would help tamp down

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 2>some of.

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<v Speaker 1>The anti Semitic that they've been dealing with the last

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<v Speaker 1>several months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and so I think all of that, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there around Kamala, that's attractive. A second choice that

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<v Speaker 2>I think is also very attractive as a VP is

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Kelly. Mark Kelly is Senator from Arizona. Yeah, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly is a Navy veteran. Mark Kelly is a former astronaut.

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 2>He's been to space.

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>He's also got a fame factor to him. Yeah.

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 2>And Mark Kelly is also affable, and he seems reasonable.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't seem crazy when you talk with him. I

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<v Speaker 2>like Mark Kelly personally. He's someone he's like a Joe Manchin.

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>It won't be Joe Manchen, but he's someone who his affect,

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>his demeanor is very affable and if you met him

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>on the street, you wouldn't think the guy was a Democrat.

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't think that he voted with a looney left

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<v Speaker 2>on almost everything, because he seems like a normal guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would be very attractive. And Arizona, it

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<v Speaker 2>is not as vital as swing state as Pennsylvania doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have nearly as many electoral votes, but Arizona is certainly

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<v Speaker 2>a battleground state, and Mark Kelly on the ballot could help.

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<v Speaker 2>I would put those two as the top two.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to ask, and where's Gavin Newsom? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>number three? If you're going for a white guy. The

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>argument they would say is someone says he brings California,

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>but the reality is California. I got California anyway, exactly.

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 2>So if they go Gavin Newsom, it's a combination of

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 2>two things. Want one money, okay, And Newsom's got a

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 2>bunch of donors who love him, who will write checks.

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>And California is the ATM of the Democrat Party. And

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<v Speaker 2>so now Kamala is a Californian, so she's got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that money behind her also.

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<v Speaker 1>But it neutralizes him too, right, wouldn't that be the perk?

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Because then you'd have to worry about him in four.

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Years potentially, although she doesn't worry about him in four years.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 2>If she's the incumbent president, he's not going to primary her.

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 2>If she gets this and gets elected, Newsom doesn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to run.

0:26:59.920 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>For eight years.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>That that's just it, just that's how it's going to

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 2>knocks that down down the road. Look, Newsome, I think

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>is perceived as too liberal. My guess is they're not

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>going to be that worried about money. And the other

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 2>reason you would go with Newsom is he's talented. I

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.959
<v Speaker 2>mean he is. He is a snake oil salesman par excellence.

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 2>He's a communicator, he's slick. He can be a.

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Great campaigner because peop would show up to see him.

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>In the Democratic Party, that's important too, right, I mean,

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you you have an event and your VP is popular,

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that's good for your campaign.

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Look, and in many ways he would overshadow Kaml. It

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 2>reminds me back in the nineteen eighty eight election. I

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 2>remember Saturday Night Live was making fun as we're getting

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>really close to the election, and you had George Bush

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and dan Quayle and look, people had ridiculed dan Quail enormously.

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 2>And so what what SNL did is the ballots is

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 2>the party of parties have requested they be printed and

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the Republican side had Bush and giant letters and quail

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 2>and tiny letters. And then on the Democrat side you

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>had Michael Dacaccas, who rode in a tank with a

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>helmet and looked ridiculous. And then Lloyd Benson, it was

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 2>the Texas senator who was moderate well received, was going

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 2>over well. SNL did the Battle of Docacas, tiny little

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>letter and Benson. Yeah, that could happen. Kamala could be

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>worried about is the risk that Gavin would would overshadow her.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I think Shapiro or Kelly are more likely.

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd be surprised. I don't think she thinks she needs

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the money, and I think the downside she would perceive

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>is greater.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about the media, because what we're

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>going to see right now, and this is my biggest concern.

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>You and I talked about this in Milwaukee. If Biden

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>dropped out. Now it's Biden has dropped out. It's a

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>complete reset, yes, of this presidential campaign, the polls, and

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to be very clear to our audience. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my opinion. I don't know if you agree with

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>me or not. I want to know your take on

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it are completely meaningless and worthless right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>The only poll that's going to matter is the first

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>poll after we find out who the Democrats actually pounds.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Even that poll's not going to matter. And and listen,

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.719
<v Speaker 2>this is something you and I talked about in our

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>last podcast. We did two podcasts live from the convention.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I love the convention. It was a blast. It's the

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>best Republican convention. I've ever seen, more unity than I've

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. However, I was very worried at the convention,

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and I expressed this to you at the time, which

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>is I am afraid people were over confident at the

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 2>convention that there was an air of celebration. It was

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>We've won, We're on to victory. This is a landslide.

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Trump's coming back in. We've got a huge Republican majority.

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 2>He heard people talking about it. Fifty five to fifty

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>six Republican senators, huge Republican house. Like people were planning,

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>people were talking about, all right, who's gonna be Secretary

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>of State, who's gonna be Secretary of Defense? Like they're handing.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Already moved on. Yeah, we wanted now what's next? And

0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>that's not the case.

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>And my view, and I was trying to say this

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 2>is Look, there's a time for celebration, celebrate after election day,

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>celebrate after we've won. Now is not the time for celebration.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Now's the time for hard work. Now's the time for

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 2>rolling up your sleeves and going to win. And my

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>assumption is coming out of the convention, Republicans will get

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bounce. You know, historically it's about four points,

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 2>is what you get out of your convention. I think

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 2>it was a strong convention. So let's assume that happens

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the Democrats, and I will give them credit for one thing.

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>They're timing of releasing it right after the convention. Perfect

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>timing to do this, because it resets the whole race.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>It almost doesn't matter what the bounce was out of

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>the convention. And here's the problem. For the next month,

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>all of the news is going to be dominated by

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>who the Democrat is going to be. The Democrats are

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>about to have a month long convention instead of a week.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Why do you get a bounce out of a convention.

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>You get a bounce out of convention because you have

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 2>four days of driving the news, the earn media every

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 2>night of your people on TV pitching all of the

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 2>benefits of your nominee, all the benefits of your record,

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>all the benefits of your agenda. Instead of a four

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 2>day convention, the Democrats are about to have a month

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>long convention where every news story will be focused on

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>who the nominee is gonna be. And they're also going

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 2>to be doing a combination of number one, praising Biden.

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not graceful to he's on his way out.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 2>People don't want to criticize him anymore.

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>We're going to They did this for America.

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 2>He's historic, He's one of the greatest presidents of the

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>history of the universe. I mean, you're gonna hear all

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>of that effusively, and then they're going to talk about

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 2>what an historic president Kamala Harris would be and it's

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>going to be a month long We're going to see.

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Multi I would argue multi billion dollar in kind contribution.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Republicans, I worry vastly underestimate Kamala

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Harris that they don't think very highly of her. They

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring

0:31:57.040 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>up Kamala Harris's name in Republican circles, people. It's immediately

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:05.719
<v Speaker 2>a punch line. I think people are underestimating what billions

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 2>of dollars of free media, of the entire corrupt corporate

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 2>media complex. Pitching her as a combination of Mother Teresa,

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Oprah and Gandhi.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:18.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and save the party.

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be and young and vibrant, and it's historic.

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean it is going to be now. I still

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>think Trump wins in November. But this is not a layup.

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>It is not given in what's coming in front of us. Look,

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>if you're a Democrat, what makes you nervous is chaos,

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and this much chaos one hundred days out is scary.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know what even more scary is going to

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>an election where you're almost certain to lose, which is

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 2>where Biden was. So from their perspective, chaos and a

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>chance to win or certain loss, they'll take chaos. But

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Republicans need to understand just how dangerous this is.

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.959
<v Speaker 1>It's all perspective in life. And I said this earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you're on the greatest cruise ship in the

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>world and that cruise ship's going down and a crappy

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>little fishing boat shows up and it saves your life.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>You love that crappy fishing boat the rest of your life.

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter how bad it looks, how ugly it was.

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>You just got your life saved. And that's Kamala Harris like,

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>not a good.

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Time that you do not have a career as a

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Democrat politics ad maker. I can see the ad now,

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris the boat to save your life.

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>To save your life. But it's perspective. I mean, that's

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>what they're dealing with. I know, right, But she didn't

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>even make it. I mean, I go back to when

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>she was running. She got zero delegates, correct, and she

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>was a terrible kennet. But when you're now in the

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>position of that boat sinking and I'm the only one

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that's got doesn't have a hole in the boat, I'm

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty I'm pretty appealing to everybody on that boat, and

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I love you, and I'm willing to swim to you,

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm willing to hug you and kiss you and

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>say thank you for saving my life. It's all perspective.

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's what the media is going to do to her,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>is say she just saved us from guaranteed to fate defeat.

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>She is a savior to the Democratic Party. We love

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>her and they're all going to be energized. That terrifies me.

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, energized. And once she's the nominee, unified. You know,

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>one thing to keep in mind. People are focused on, oh, money,

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>and Trump has a money advantage. Put yourself in the

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 2>mindset of a Democrat gazillionaire, of a Democrat activist, of

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a Democrat union boss, of a Democrat special interest leader.

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>A week ago, you were depressed, you were demoralizing, you

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 2>were contemplating America run by Hitler. And by the way,

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 2>if you're one of those people you think Donald Trump

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>is Adolf Hitler. Yeah, but look like you were just

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I want to show up

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>and vote. It's terrible. It's horrible. And now to go

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>back to the sinking cruise ship, you've been thrown a lifeline.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to see jubilation on the Democrat side.

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 2>That's dangerous too, you know, jubilation.

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens is donors pull out their checks and they

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<v Speaker 2>write really big checks when they're massive. What happens is

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<v Speaker 2>activists go and they work harder, they turn more people out,

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<v Speaker 2>and that particularly if the Republicans are over confident. We

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be over confident. That combination is dangerous. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, it reminds me of, potentially I hope this

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<v Speaker 2>is not right, but it reminds me of a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, the A and M versus Alabama game. I

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<v Speaker 2>was there at the A and M versus Alabama game.

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama at the time was the number one team in

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<v Speaker 2>the country. You have me at sports analogy. I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>in now A and M. A and M had started

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<v Speaker 2>off as a top twenty five team and had a

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<v Speaker 2>good team, but it had lost two games in a row. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>two opponents that weren't wasn't supposed to lose. I think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It was bad. And so we came into the game

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<v Speaker 2>and I was there in College Station, and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>saying to my buddies I was at the game with,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know what, I think A and M

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<v Speaker 2>has a real chance to win this game because I

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<v Speaker 2>think Alabama's feeling like we're the number one team in

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<v Speaker 2>the country and these A and M guys suck. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at look they're losing to teams that are not contenders.

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<v Speaker 2>This is easy. We're playing a junior high team, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Aggies were pissed off or they were

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<v Speaker 2>at Kyle Field and they were defending their home and

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<v Speaker 2>they were mad because everyone was dismissing them as a

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<v Speaker 2>joke and they're like, wait a second, We're a top

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<v Speaker 2>tier football team. And they ended up winning that game.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awesome. Forty one thirty eight was the final score.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Field erupted. I don't want to see the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>playing the role of A and M in that dynamic,

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<v Speaker 2>and so my message to Republicans is do not behave

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<v Speaker 2>like this is in the bag, because that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the easiest ways to ensure it's not in the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you strategy question on if you

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<v Speaker 1>are the Trump team, what do you do when you

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<v Speaker 1>just start acting like you're running against Harris. Before you

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored by Preborn Senator. If you are Donald Trump, you

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<v Speaker 1>now know that Biden is gone. The number one question

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<v Speaker 1>that the campaign's got to ask is how do you

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<v Speaker 1>campaign against somebody for the next month that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, I'd say forty percent you campaign against Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>you assume it's Kamala, and sixty percent you campaign against

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats record. And I will say I've been concerned

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<v Speaker 2>in recent weeks and months that we've spent too much

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<v Speaker 2>time attacking Joe Biden for his mental diminishment and not

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<v Speaker 2>enough time making the case as as you and I

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<v Speaker 2>often do, that the Biden Harris Democrat record has been

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<v Speaker 2>a train wreck. And I say Democrat record because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just Joe Biden, it's Kamala Harris, and it's every

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<v Speaker 2>single Democrat in Congress, every Democrat senator, every Democrat House member.

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<v Speaker 2>They voted repeatedly in favor of the spending and the

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<v Speaker 2>debt that is causing inflation. They voted repeatedly in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of Biden's war on oil and gas and energy that

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<v Speaker 2>is causing energy prices to skyrocket. They voted repeatedly in

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<v Speaker 2>favor of open borders that's endangering our families across this country.

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<v Speaker 2>They voted repeatedly in favor of letting violent criminals out

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<v Speaker 2>of jail. That is again endangering our families. They voted

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly in favor of appeasing our enemies and undermining our allies.

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<v Speaker 2>And so from the Trump's campaign, I would assume it's Kamala,

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<v Speaker 2>but also make the broader point it is their agenda

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<v Speaker 2>that has failed the American people. The classic question in

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<v Speaker 2>any election, are you better off now than you were

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago? It doesn't matter what fill in the

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<v Speaker 2>blank democrat they drop into that slot, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be defending the same disastrous, failed record. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>hope the Trump campaign and I hope Republicans generally make

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<v Speaker 2>that case substantively. On on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Merits, it's gonna be interesting. We're gonna cover it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let me make a final statement.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to place the odds that Joe Biden pardons

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter Biden at one hundred point zero percent, Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 2>will get a pardon as a result of this decision today,

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<v Speaker 2>will not happen till after election day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was gonna ask, when's the happening.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna do it. He's not gonna do it

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<v Speaker 2>before election day, but he's gonna stick around and after

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<v Speaker 2>election day. I believe it is now one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>that Joe Biden will pardon Hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling that might be part of our

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<v Speaker 1>next show. It might be Don't forget we do this money.

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