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Speaker 1: Now welcome man, lay Kick is alive.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday Night, March twentieth, or Our Lord twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two, jam packed with college football.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that people like us allowed free and clear to

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Speaker 1: talk about college football in the month of mars Hey.

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Speaker 2: We're high a top a sun soap downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: We have sprung forward. Even the calendar has to admit

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Speaker 2: at spring. Now we got a loaded show. I loved

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Speaker 2: what we did the other night so far, and apparently

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Speaker 2: you did too, judging by the metrics that we're.

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Speaker 1: Doing it again tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm opening up the mail bag and in true form,

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Speaker 2: you guys have submitted a batch of questions that's going

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Speaker 2: to take us all over the place. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about surprise hires. We're going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: most impressive individual performances we've ever seen, several comeback teams

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, the year of Our Lord, to

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Speaker 2: talk about. Also, it's time to resurrect some rivalries. Tonight

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Speaker 2: Miami gave us a little tidbit. I'm gonna show you

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Speaker 2: at the end of the show. It just happened like

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Speaker 2: in the last thirty minutes you give us love. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna give you love circle of life, baby, that's how

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Speaker 2: it works. We are so happy to have you tuned in.

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Speaker 2: You will never guess where they're tuned in tonight, Colin Jesse.

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Speaker 2: As sure as I sit here, they are watching us

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Speaker 2: in Cape Town, South Africa. So that's our international shout

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Speaker 2: out for the night. Also, then we're gonna go extremely

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Speaker 2: regional here Brookhaven, Mississippi, not just Mississippi, Jackson, Mississippi, Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: They're tuned in.

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Speaker 2: Now you may wonder why did you just focus on

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Speaker 2: one little bitty portion of the country there. It's probably

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Speaker 2: where I'll be in about forty eight hours. We've got

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Speaker 2: a big severe weather set up. You know that I

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Speaker 2: dabble in storm chasing, and by dabble I mean dive

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Speaker 2: into it in the spring. So if you guys live

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Speaker 2: down there in southwest Mississippi, maybe down in the Baton

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Speaker 2: be bad for you, but that's good news in that

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Speaker 2: it will bring me your way. I'll try and keep

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Speaker 2: you safe as much as I can. I don't really

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Speaker 2: on the lookout. Also, I just want to thank you

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Speaker 2: in general, because, like I said, our numbers the other night,

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Speaker 2: we're great. So I'm not gonna waste any time. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna dive right in. But we do have a couple

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Speaker 2: of interesting features of the show tonight. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 2: you see us do something you have no business seeing

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Speaker 1: It has to do with academy. So you may think, oh,

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Speaker 1: the ad read. No, not like this.

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Speaker 2: You've never seen us do an ad read like this.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I am hyping our ad read for tonight.

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Speaker 2: One more thing you need to know, and then we're

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Speaker 2: about to dive in. We got some really good questions here.

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Speaker 2: I figured, since we're gonna do Q and A for

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Speaker 2: Late Kick Live both episodes this week, and there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a lot of college basketball on Thursday night, why

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Speaker 2: not just have Late Kick Live on Tuesday night. That way,

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Speaker 2: I'm not forcing you to choose. I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of you love watching Martin. Well we're watching it too,

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Speaker 2: so all of us love watching Marks Madis. So with

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Speaker 2: are moving Late Kick Live to Tuesday night, so we're

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have another Late Kick Live. We'll still have

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Speaker 2: I oh, I love where this mailbag has taking us tonight.

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Speaker 2: do love where the mailbag's taking us. Here's the question.

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Speaker 2: the question. So Michael Gold hit us up and he said,

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Speaker 2: what is the single most impressive performance that you have

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Speaker 2: This didn't take long for me. Derrick Henry in twenty

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Speaker 1: So it's like a one possession game.

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Speaker 2: I think it was late in the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 2: Here his stat line Derrick Henry's for that game in

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Speaker 2: back in high school when he was setting all these

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Speaker 2: That's no running back, that's a linebacker. He looks like

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Speaker 1: He cares it forty six times.

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Speaker 2: it's the wildest thing you'll ever see because you're looking

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Speaker 2: be a little bit shall I use this word, yes,

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Speaker 2: I shall girthier. But Derrick Henry looks like someone dropped

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Speaker 1: It doesn't look like he was made here.

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Speaker 2: It looks like he was dropped here extremely high hips,

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Speaker 1: In general, he just doesn't look like anyone else.

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Speaker 1: He's already in like the upper thirties for carries. Who

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Speaker 2: But my point is, going back to the high school thing,

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Speaker 2: I think they ran him over forty times the next

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Speaker 2: times in consecutive weeks. They won the SEC championship. The

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Speaker 2: up winning the National championship. And then the same questions

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Speaker 2: draft after mock draft, Henry's going to be drafted here.

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Speaker 2: But the concern is how much tread is left on

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Speaker 2: said irresponsibly used him and put that workload on him.

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Speaker 1: It's just never been an issue.

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Speaker 2: You cannot use your previous data points and things you've

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Speaker 1: And apply them to this generational freak of an.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't now.

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry Iron Bowl twenty fifteen, most impressive individual performance

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Speaker 2: going to be a comment section special. Marissa, friend of

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Speaker 2: have a comeback.

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Speaker 1: Year in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Now I circle three, but I think there are like

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Speaker 2: Is that Texas is one of them? Texas was five

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Speaker 2: always know there's a certain talent level on the roster

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Speaker 2: you can always say this generic sentence, if Texas gets

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Speaker 1: To do some things.

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Speaker 2: So this year, if Texas gets it right, they got

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Speaker 2: they play Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a Week two game in Austin.

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Speaker 1: But we're going here.

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Speaker 2: Owen hit us up and said, no order needed here

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Speaker 2: because I cannot ask you to crucify yourself publicly like that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Owen.

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Speaker 2: Therefore, he is merely asking in no particular order for

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Speaker 2: Until right before they kick it off because I'm trying

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Speaker 1: However, at Auburn I make.

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Speaker 2: An exception because this right here is an opportunity for

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Speaker 2: They let that little squeal out every now and then.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes people watch this, mainly the casuals out there,

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Speaker 2: The venue is Beaver Stadium, the city is Welt State College, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: this finally. Last year it was Auburn in town. Everyone

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Speaker 2: This is from the eye, Josh. There's no substitute for that.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible. That is a spectacle. Like I said, that

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Speaker 1: You got the fireworks going off.

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Speaker 2: And it's nighttime and it's like seventy degrees outside because

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Speaker 2: That's the only one I have not seen in person,

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Speaker 2: Entrance music all those years at Yankee Stadium, loved it

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Speaker 2: certainly not because it doesn't qualify. It's caused the jerks

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Speaker 2: in the marching band there, some of them, not all

438
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Speaker 2: of them, the ones who run the Twitter account, they

439
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,160
Speaker 2: started to get a little started to get a little

440
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: salty with me this past year because when I was

441
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Speaker 2: going to go up there for the Michigan State game,

442
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 2: I jokingly put out that even though there is a

443
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Speaker 2: rumor it's not true, I will not be dotting the

444
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 2: ie at Ohio Stadium this Saturday, all in good fun. Well,

445
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 2: then the Ohio State Marching band Twitter account has to

446
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 2: come in and say, yeah, yeah, we can confirm that's

447
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 2: definitely not true. Like calm down, c y T if

448
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 2: you know, you know, and about five of you know

449
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: what that acronym stands for a year, one of them, Jesse,

450
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: you're one of them. Anyway, I can't just because of

451
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Speaker 2: the actions of a few discount what is an amazing tradition.

452
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 2: So script Ohio, the dotting of the I look, maybe

453
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 2: one day we will get the show big enough to

454
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Speaker 2: where I can dot it. We're not there yet, I

455
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 2: get it. I get it, guys, we're.

456
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Speaker 1: Not there yet. So we've got all those.

457
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: Now, there's one that I did not tell Jesse or

458
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Speaker 2: Colin that I was going to include because I didn't

459
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Speaker 2: want them to aggregate video of it because we'll probably

460
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Speaker 2: get sued and kicked off air.

461
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: One of the other big traditions.

462
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Speaker 2: That I love in college football is the playing of

463
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Speaker 2: Neck at LSU. This is one of those if you know,

464
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: you know situations, and if you don't know, I do

465
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: not encourage you to go onto YouTube dot com and

466
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Speaker 2: search lsuneck.

467
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 1: I certainly don't want you to do that.

468
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Speaker 2: If you do do it, I don't want you to

469
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Speaker 2: do it with any loved ones, especially children in the room.

470
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We run a family friendly show here. Okay.

471
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Speaker 2: I am usually a very reserved person, and there are

472
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Speaker 2: lyrics in Neck at LSU that you would not think

473
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: I endorse.

474
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I don't know how to explain it.

475
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: I've been to LSU games several times and I have

476
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: witnessed the playing and singing of neck. And it's not

477
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: just college kids doing it, Okay, it is bankers and

478
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 2: you know, it's bank tellers, it's grocery store clerks, it's

479
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: Baptist preachers and everyone in between. It's just accepted. It's

480
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: one of those things that is an exception to the

481
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Speaker 2: otherwise way that you want.

482
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Speaker 1: To carry yourself.

483
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: So there is there is a decorum that you want

484
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Speaker 2: to have about yourself, and then there's what's acceptable to

485
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: do on Saturday in Tiger Stadium and look Neck is

486
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Speaker 2: one of them. I'm just letting you know. Neck is

487
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: one of them. Neck is so incredible to behold, and

488
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: it's so amazing to hear ninety plus thousand people chant

489
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: what they're chanting in Unison that I believe if we

490
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Speaker 2: were to be wiped out as a civilization boom asteroid hits,

491
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: we're done. And then a million years down the road,

492
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Speaker 2: humans repoppedulate the earth and they uncover evidence of our civilization.

493
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Speaker 1: I think the playing of Neck at LSU will be

494
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: like dragons.

495
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 2: We look back and we look at dragons and we

496
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: think those are mythical, Right, there were never fire breathing creatures. Wait,

497
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: do we know if they were real or not. That's

498
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 2: the way it's going to be with Neck. They'll uncover

499
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: evidence of Neck. But then down the road a million

500
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Speaker 2: years people will say, there's no way that many people

501
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Speaker 2: chanted those words in Unison.

502
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Speaker 1: Did they would that have actually happened.

503
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Speaker 2: They'll be the shruggy emoji don't know, but I'm here

504
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 2: to tell you it does happen, and it's terrifyingly glorious,

505
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: as is a lot of stuff you see at LSU

506
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: now that I think of it. So those are some

507
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: of my favorite traditions. I did not come close to

508
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: naming all the traditions, so obviously that means I hate

509
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: your program, but I was strongly encourage you get in

510
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Speaker 2: the comment section because I'm trying to compile all the

511
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Speaker 2: list of stuff I haven't seen yet, Like Ralphie it

512
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: at Colorado. I gotta have a good reason to go

513
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: out there, high profile game being the reason I'd love

514
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: to see Ralphie. I love Buffalo, So you know, there's

515
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: just a lot of stuff that I still didn't include.

516
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: Any band like USC or Alabama. Any band that plays

517
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: Fleetwood Mac in any shape, form or fashion that automatically

518
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: is one of the best traditions in college football. So yeah,

519
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: there are a lot of ways to make it on

520
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Speaker 2: this list. Okay, so I told you at the beginning

521
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Speaker 2: of the show, we're gonna do something we're not supposed

522
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Speaker 2: to do. I didn't even bother to clear this with

523
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Speaker 2: management because they would have told me.

524
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Speaker 1: Don't do it.

525
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Speaker 2: But it doesn't say the late kick with management. It

526
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: says the late kick with Josh Pace. So we're gonna

527
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Speaker 2: take some creative liberty here in the interest of time consolidation.

528
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Speaker 2: We're supposed to do an Academy ad read not for

529
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Speaker 2: the show we do won every show, but we've got

530
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Speaker 2: one to do for the entire twenty four to seven

531
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Speaker 2: Sports CBS Sports Podcasting network. And they're gonna take what

532
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Speaker 2: I'm about to do and they're gonna put it all

533
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Speaker 2: over the place. Here's the thing we actually have copy

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Speaker 2: to read. You know, this is the old school kind

535
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Speaker 2: of way, even though it's handwritten. So in order to

536
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Speaker 2: save time, what I'm gonna do is just I'm gonna

537
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Speaker 2: record this live right now. It's gonna sound a little

538
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Speaker 2: different than normal, and I'm gonna use the fake announcer voice,

539
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Speaker 2: so you're just gonna.

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Speaker 1: Have to bear with me.

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Speaker 2: But this will serve is our friends at Academy Sports

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Speaker 2: and Outdoors ad read for Late Cake Live tonight.

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Speaker 2: Spring is here and Academy Sports and Outdoors is the

545
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547
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550
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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's how you record an ad read folks. Now we

555
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Speaker 2: move on in the show and make sure that you

556
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Speaker 2: know Academy.

557
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Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors. It actually is the place to be.

558
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Speaker 1: Not just saying it because it says it on the

559
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Speaker 1: sheet of paper in front of me. But I'm glad

560
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Speaker 1: we did that to where there was no option to

561
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Speaker 1: go back if we screwed it up. I actually actually

562
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Speaker 1: prefer it.

563
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like college football. There was no safety

564
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Speaker 2: net under us there. We had to nail it in

565
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Speaker 2: one try. How about this question as we continue here

566
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Speaker 2: tonight from Hugh, of all the new coaching hires this year,

567
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Speaker 2: Hugh asks, which one is the most surprising fit to you?

568
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Speaker 2: So my answers here coincided with just the biggest surprises

569
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Speaker 2: to me in general. I don't have a problem with

570
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Speaker 2: the fit of the two guys I'm about to read off.

571
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Speaker 2: These are just the two hires that made me go

572
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Speaker 2: what The first one's Lincoln Riley by a mile. This

573
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Speaker 2: one shocked everyone. This one shocked people at USC. I

574
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Speaker 2: remember back in real time, Remember what the talk was.

575
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Speaker 2: The talk was Dave A. Randa, is he going to

576
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Speaker 2: leave Baylor for USC? If he doesn't remember who the

577
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: backup option was, it was Matt.

578
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Speaker 1: Campbell at Iowa State.

579
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Speaker 2: And all the while Lincoln Riley is either not leaving

580
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: Oklahoma or if he does, we're hearing lsu whispers and

581
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: we stay kind of quiet on Lake Kid because there

582
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: was really nothing solid that was coming out of anyone's mouth.

583
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: Well that's because it was being worked out behind the scenes,

584
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: as good negotiations often are. But when Lincoln Riley got hired,

585
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: I was floored like everyone else was. And that's what

586
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: I'll remember about it. It's not about fit. In fact,

587
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 2: the way it's played out. If I were to have

588
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: left five years ago and just I came back and

589
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: I saw Lincoln Riley's at USC, but I didn't know

590
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: how long he had been there, I'd probably think it

591
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: feels like he fits better there than Oklahoma. I guarantee

592
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma folks to tell you right now, we think Brent

593
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: Vinables feels like he fits here better than Lincoln did.

594
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Speaker 1: So hey, we'll take it blah blah blah.

595
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Whether that is scorned lover syndrome or they genuinely believe it,

596
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: or maybe a mixture of both. That's an individual decision choice.

597
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: You feel how you feel. But as for me, I

598
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Speaker 2: feel like Lincoln Riley will one of the bigger shockers

599
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: that I personally have witnessed in quite a while. And

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Speaker 2: so I will remember that for a while. I think

601
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: they'll be talking about that one for quite a while.

602
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you another one, and that's Brian Kelly. And

603
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Speaker 2: again a lot of people are going back in there

604
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: talking about fit. In the question it was about fit.

605
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: You know me, I'm not a big doubter about the

606
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Speaker 2: fit of Brian Kelly. But it's because, as I've explained

607
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: before and I'm not gonna do again at great length,

608
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: I do not care about your accent. I don't care

609
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: about all this nonsense that people were thrown around about

610
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Speaker 2: how he hasn't recruited the South, he doesn't know the

611
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Speaker 2: names of the towns down here, he doesn't know the

612
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Speaker 2: high school coaches, he's not from down here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, all.

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Speaker 2: You did so far is describe Nick Saban to me

615
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: when he came from Michigan State to LSU, So that

616
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Speaker 2: alone is not some barrier from being able to succeed.

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Speaker 2: What I did not just do, to be clear before

618
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Speaker 2: you run to the message board, is compare Brian Kelly

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Speaker 2: to Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I did.

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Speaker 2: I used an example from the past that indicates just

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Speaker 2: because you come from somewhere outside of the state at

623
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Speaker 2: Louisiana doesn't mean you can't eventually fit there because fit

624
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Speaker 2: is about winning at LSU, That's what it's about. And

625
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: so now we fast forward, think about this, even just

626
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 2: a couple of months from all that stuff, it already

627
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: feels better, like they've already down in Louisiana, had some

628
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: of their doubts, concern or and concerns eased. Well, now

629
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Speaker 2: it comes time to tee it up for spring and

630
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 2: ultimately they'll play football this fall. The point is I

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Speaker 2: don't doubt the fit. I don't doubt that he'll succeed there.

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Speaker 2: But it did surprise me when he went, only because

633
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Speaker 2: I thought we had gotten probably one or two years

634
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Speaker 2: past the point where Brian Kelly was willing to leave.

635
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: So the biggest surprises to me were the two most

636
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Speaker 2: high profile moves, like I was not surprised that Billy

637
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Speaker 2: Napier went to Florida once they made a move from

638
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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen. I would have been surprised if Napier didn't

639
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: go to Florida. But Lincoln Riley to us, Yes, LSU

640
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly, Yes, those were two huge surprises to me.

641
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Speaker 2: Next question, let's talk some recruiting here. Appreciate you guys

642
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: being tuned in by the way.

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Speaker 1: Coach Medina asked, how has the year round cycle of

644
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: recruiting changed the sport. There are three big.

645
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: Bullet points here that you hear very often from coaching staffs.

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00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: The first one usually is the same when you.

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Speaker 2: Change anything about college football, the bigger the staff, the

648
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: more advantage you have. So now with the way the

649
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: recruiting calendar has changed, and also when you have the

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Speaker 2: early signing day, and even more so if they move

651
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Speaker 2: the signing day up, you got to be on kids

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Speaker 2: earlier obviously. And you know, when Matt Luke just stepped

653
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Speaker 2: down from Georgia, one of the things he cited publicly,

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Speaker 2: he's on the record is saying this was it's just tough.

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Speaker 2: It's tough doing our job these days. We get paid

656
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Speaker 2: a lot of money, but it's tough. You're recruiting four

657
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Speaker 2: classes at the same time. Now, now, the fortunate aspect

658
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Speaker 2: if you're a Georgia fan is your staff is big

659
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Speaker 2: enough where you can do it.

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Speaker 1: That make it easier.

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Speaker 2: But think about having a smaller staff, thinking about having

662
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Speaker 2: like fifty percent, thirty percent, a quarter of the staff

663
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Speaker 2: that some of the biggest programs do. But you're still

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Speaker 2: on the same calendar, and you're playing the same sport,

665
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Speaker 2: and you're expected to compete with them. That's the illusion

666
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Speaker 2: that we try and maintain of all one hundred and

667
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Speaker 2: thirty FBS teams playing the same sport, which is ridiculous.

668
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Speaker 2: But if anyone wants to entertain that, okay, let's walk

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Speaker 2: that through.

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Speaker 1: How am I supposed to compete with that? The answer

671
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Speaker 1: is I don't.

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Speaker 2: So the first bullet point is that year round nature

673
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Speaker 2: of the recruiting calendar now it greatly benefits the big

674
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Speaker 2: time programs because they have more manpower to attack more

675
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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five kids.

676
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Speaker 2: And if that sounds like a long way down the road,

677
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Speaker 2: it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four to twenty five kids are on campus

680
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Speaker 2: every weekend right now before spring, when they're doing camps

681
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Speaker 2: and whatnot. They're on campus right now. The second thing

682
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Speaker 2: is burnout. Go back to Matt Luke for a second.

683
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Speaker 1: Matt Luke.

684
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Speaker 2: A perfectly good offensive line coach, former head coach at

685
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Speaker 2: ol Miss, who was at Georgia. They just won the

686
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Speaker 2: national championship. He stepped down off Kirby Smart's staff. The

687
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Speaker 2: same Kirby Smart that after winning the national championship in

688
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Speaker 2: Indianapolis back in January, sat down with the ESPN's Rhece

689
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Speaker 2: Davis the next day and did not look very happy.

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Speaker 1: Didn't look jubilant.

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Speaker 2: He had bloodshot eyes, of course, but he said, among

692
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Speaker 2: many things he said, was I'm worried about the future

693
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Speaker 2: of the sport. I don't like the direction of the

694
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Speaker 2: sport right now. And when pressed for why he felt

695
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Speaker 2: that way, he said, We've got an unsustainable trajectory our

696
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Speaker 2: model right now. The year round nature of it is

697
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Speaker 2: such that guys can't handle it.

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Speaker 1: They are burning out.

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Speaker 2: They're either choosing to go to the NFL because it's

700
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Speaker 2: easier at the pro level than it is the college level,

701
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Speaker 2: which is ludicrous, or they're just leaving the game entirely.

702
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Speaker 2: And what you used to see is you would see

703
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Speaker 2: guys step down seemingly and say, I need to spend

704
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Speaker 2: more time with my family. I just need to step

705
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Speaker 2: aside from my mental health. And that used to be code,

706
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Speaker 2: and whether it was true or not, you used to

707
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Speaker 2: take that as Okay, he did something wrong, there's some

708
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Speaker 2: kind of scandal, and they're just letting him be able

709
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Speaker 2: to step aside under these auspices, so he's not embarrassed.

710
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Speaker 1: But you used to always think, as did I.

711
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Speaker 2: If a guy says I'm stepping away to spend more

712
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Speaker 2: time in my family, that means he either got fired

713
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Speaker 2: and he's being allowed to gracefully exit, or they're scandal

714
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Speaker 2: and he's being allowed to gracefully exit.

715
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Speaker 1: That's not the case all the time anymore. Matt Luke

716
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Speaker 1: stepped down and he said I got to go spend

717
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Speaker 1: more time with my familyes exactly what he's doing. There

718
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Speaker 1: was nothing behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: And I think because he said so, that this calendar

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Speaker 2: and the way it's structured now had a lot to

721
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Speaker 2: do with that.

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Speaker 1: There are two schools of thought out there.

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Speaker 2: I am very much of the let's address this right

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Speaker 2: now before we lose more good people. And then there's

725
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Speaker 2: another school of thought, which I think is just it's

726
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Speaker 2: very shortsighted and ignorant is the word I want to use,

727
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Speaker 2: where people say, well, you make millions of dollars a year,

728
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Speaker 2: deal with it.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: My retort with that is I could pay you fifteen

731
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Speaker 2: billion dollars a year. You have no ability to put

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Speaker 2: a twenty fifth hour in a day. It doesn't matter

733
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Speaker 2: how much I pay you. There's a maximum efficiency level

734
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Speaker 2: that one is capable of operating at. And at some

735
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Speaker 2: point when they reach when they redline, you know, when

736
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Speaker 2: the needles all the way over in the red doesn't matter.

737
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Speaker 2: You don't pay them more, and then the needle all

738
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Speaker 2: of a sudden calibrates back to an acceptable level. You

739
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Speaker 2: just you're capable of dealing with what you're capable of

740
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Speaker 2: dealing with. So you can either run around and yell,

741
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Speaker 2: well you make a lot of money, so you're immune

742
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Speaker 2: from those issues.

743
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Speaker 1: Once you make a lot of money, deal with it.

744
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Speaker 2: Or you can be a realist and say money's probably

745
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Speaker 2: not the determining factor here, Probably something else in play.

746
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Speaker 1: It's the calendar. The third thing, by the.

747
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Speaker 2: Way, is they restructure the organization the year round nature

748
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Speaker 2: of recruiting, and I think the transfer portal too, has

749
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Speaker 2: led to restructuring of college football organizations. You're seeing people

750
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Speaker 2: get hired now at the college level that in the

751
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Speaker 2: past would have been much better fit for an NFL

752
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Speaker 2: scouting department. And the reason because you have to scout

753
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Speaker 2: college now. In college used to be just high school kids,

754
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Speaker 2: but now you have to scout the teams around you,

755
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Speaker 2: the sport around you, because the transfer portal is going

756
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Speaker 2: to be full every year, and you don't need to

757
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: be looking into a kid once he enters the portal.

758
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: You need to already know about him, and you need

759
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Speaker 2: to also, aside from having a scouting report on him

760
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Speaker 2: and knowing his physical traits and characteristics, you need to

761
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Speaker 2: know his background. You need to know points of contact,

762
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Speaker 2: you need to know you need to know a neck

763
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Speaker 2: up report if you will, like a character report. You

764
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Speaker 2: need all those things. So it makes you hire a

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Speaker 2: different kind of people, or it makes you add on

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Speaker 2: to the personnel that you have already on your staff.

767
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Speaker 2: So bigger staffs they will always benefit no matter what

768
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Speaker 2: the change is. In college football, burnout is an issue

769
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Speaker 2: and restructuring of your organization. I think is something else

770
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Speaker 2: that's come out of this? All right, let's move in

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Speaker 2: on here.

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Speaker 1: This one is so easy, it's easy for me. I

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Speaker 1: guess fad asked.

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Speaker 2: We have lost several great rightes devilries due to conference realignment.

775
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Speaker 2: As the commissioner of college football, which rivalries would you

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Speaker 2: bring back?

777
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Speaker 1: Now?

778
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Speaker 2: This assumes, and I do too, that I will have

779
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Speaker 2: ultimate power just with the swipe of a pen via

780
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Speaker 2: executive order, which is all the rage these days. I

781
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Speaker 2: am going to bring back Texas versus Texas A and M.

782
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Speaker 1: Now. It's probably not going to require me.

783
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Speaker 2: To take such drastic action because they are they being

784
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Speaker 2: Texas joining the SEC in the very near future tbd

785
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Speaker 2: exactly when, and this will be a game that's played again.

786
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Speaker 2: But I'd like to see it played now, so you know,

787
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Speaker 2: in my perfect world, I would see it played now.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine this happening now?

789
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Speaker 2: They've not played for several years, but they used to

790
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Speaker 2: play all the time. Imagine rivalry weekend right now, imagine

791
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: what these two programs are. Texas A and M football

792
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: has never had a higher profile in your lifetime. Chances

793
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Speaker 2: are Texas football is always in a varying state of

794
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Speaker 2: what if or is Texas back, but the high profiund

795
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: nature of this rivalry thrown into that Thanksgiving weekend along

796
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Speaker 2: with Ohio State Michigan, along with Alabama Auburn, along with.

797
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Speaker 1: All the big rivalries you already watch at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. Now imagine throwing that in there.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we got A and MLSU which isn't half bad,

800
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Speaker 2: But imagine if it were A and M versus Texas

801
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Speaker 2: in the future. Guys, that's going to be a conference game,

802
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: not just an out of conference rivalry deal. It's going

803
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Speaker 2: to be a conference game again. That's the one I

804
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Speaker 2: would bring back. There are a lot of other ones.

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Speaker 1: That was a big hiccup I just suppressed there.

806
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Speaker 2: There are a lot of other ones, But I think

807
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Speaker 2: that this one is one that would go from having

808
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: been played once upon a time with a lot of

809
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: regional appeal to if and when it gets brought back

810
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: next time, it's going to have a lot more national appeal.

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Speaker 2: I think, really the future of the Texas versus Texas

812
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Speaker 2: A and M rivalry is one where the stakes are

813
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: going to annually or regularly at least be to the

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Speaker 2: point where over time it starts comparing to the other

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Speaker 2: big names. You do not develop the reputation of a

816
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Speaker 2: rivalry as national overnight.

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Speaker 1: College football.

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Speaker 2: Nothing happens overnight in terms of reshaping the tradition and

819
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Speaker 2: lineage of the sport.

820
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Speaker 1: But if something is.

821
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Speaker 2: Going to change and work its way into that conversation,

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Speaker 2: I think it is Texas versus Texas A and m SO.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things I want to do, and then

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Speaker 2: I want to show you something before we head out tonight.

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Speaker 2: I need you to subscribe wherever you're listening or watching.

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Speaker 2: The only favor we're asking is subscribe to the channel.

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Speaker 2: They're watching us in Tampa, they're watching us in Huntsville, Alabama, Durham,

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Speaker 2: North Carolina. Appreciate you, guys, wherever you're watching or listening.

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Speaker 2: Podcast subscribe, YouTube, subscribe. Those are big helps to us

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Speaker 2: this time of year. Second thing, make sure you're following

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Speaker 2: on Twitter and Instagram at Late Kickjosh. And then the

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Speaker 2: third thing is this, let me.

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Speaker 1: Crack the knuckles.

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Speaker 2: Okay, one cracked, it's good enough. Here's a new hard

835
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Speaker 2: and fast rule on this show. If you put us

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Speaker 2: in your hype video. We are showing the hype video

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Speaker 2: on Late Kick, and let me show you what I

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00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: Meanami put out a spring hype video about what would

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Speaker 2: you say, guys, about an hour ago, and so we

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Speaker 2: had just enough time to cut it up and put it.

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Speaker 1: In the show.

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Speaker 2: So you know what we're gonna do to end the show,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna roll the hype video. Let's take a look

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Speaker 2: at it.

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Speaker 1: For the first time, Miami got aggressive about going after

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Speaker 1: who they wanted.

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Speaker 2: The ballers down in South Florida if they stayed in Miami,

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Speaker 2: and that becomes the whole thing again.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you this, when's the last time

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Speaker 1: you watched any staff get put together in the ACC

851
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Speaker 1: and it made you go, oh, this, dude, that's the

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Speaker 1: new rule.

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Speaker 2: We need some new rules around here. You put us

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Speaker 2: in your hype video. Miami Hurricane Football just showed you.

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Speaker 2: You put us in the hype video. We're putting you

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Speaker 2: on the show, and we may even play favorites a

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Speaker 2: timer too. South Carolina the other day put us in

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Speaker 2: our heype video. This just happened, and we just made

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Speaker 2: the new rule. So from this point henceforth.

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Speaker 1: I rarely I used that word.

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Speaker 2: If we're in the hype video, you're on the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Miami, Thank you to direct. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to produce Jesse, thank you to our production and executives

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Speaker 2: and everyone out there listening to watch.

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Speaker 1: You have yourself a great start to your week. Until

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Speaker 1: next time, Tuesday night, make sure you're tuned in. Have

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Speaker 1: a great forcombling.