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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco the scot Teacher. Here are Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Brian Brauns, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and it is

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Speaker 1: a fabulous Football Friday edition of Talking Cowboys inside the

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco. As

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Speaker 1: we get you set for the Cowboys and the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings Sunday Night football this week at at and T Stage. ADM.

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Speaker 1: Bill Jones alat with Mickey Spagnola and Rob Phillips. Much

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Speaker 1: or so. As uh, we are on TV again this week.

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Speaker 1: We made it another week on Texas twenty one in

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Speaker 1: We are Talking Cowboys right right? Okay? I not sure

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Speaker 1: where you're going with that, Mickey meaning we're getting ready

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Speaker 1: to start, yeah, and we're starting on time, unlike this

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Speaker 1: my column for today. Okay, he quickly pitches his column

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Speaker 1: to the masses out there. Go ahead and pitch your

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Speaker 1: shirt to cowboys, duck bitch your shirt too, for what

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Speaker 1: are you wearing there? The Drew Persian throwback shirt? All right,

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Speaker 1: he's going muscle beach too. It's about tatty degrees outside

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Speaker 1: and it's about forty degrees inside. Yes, WBC for the team,

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Speaker 1: got his on I do, okay, and it's Drew Pearson

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Speaker 1: they're playing the Minnesota Vikings. That's right, just happened to

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Speaker 1: happen that way. Huh. Yeah, that's that's very nice. And

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Speaker 1: the display is worth the home the Hail Mary uh

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Speaker 1: sequential thirty six frame display the Stairway to Heaven. You

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Speaker 1: the stairway the Drew Pearson Hail Mary Stairway here at

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Speaker 1: the star and get your picture taken and tweet it out,

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Speaker 1: make our pink. There you go. That's a wonderful idea.

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Speaker 1: That's good afterwards. And by the way, the rival run

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Speaker 1: it a rivalry between the Cowboys and the Vikings? Do

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Speaker 1: they play often enough to be a rivalry? I thought

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Speaker 1: about that this week. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you would have taken off the field too.

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Speaker 1: In fact, this is wow. I wonder what the date was, well,

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Speaker 1: October's October nineteen thirty years removed from the Herschel Walker trade,

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Speaker 1: the most influential trade, possibly in the history of sports.

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Speaker 1: Possibly when you think about it, it it was after the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay game. I can look it up then, okay,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, you know, And really you go back

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Speaker 1: twice that year in nineteen seventy five, eighty nine. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So it happened after that because there was a sparring

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Speaker 1: a much better quarterback now. They do have similar personnel

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Speaker 1: that's one reason why they've been able to sustain so

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Speaker 1: much success. Was Zimmer's defenses. But it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: was Thanksgiving Day nineteen eighty seven, which was a forty

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Speaker 1: sacrifice the whole eighty nine. He had the big picture

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Speaker 1: in mine. So anyway, that's a trip down Cowboys Vikings

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings to Talking Cowboys. Talking Cowboys continues from inside

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studios here at The Star in Frisco

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Speaker 1: on Texas twenty one in Dallas Fort Worth, Big Weekend

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Speaker 1: not only at the stadium on Sunday, but there's also

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Speaker 1: a Salute to Service Plaza party tomorrow on Saturday on

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Speaker 1: Tostito's Championship Plaza. The Salute to Service Plaza Party and

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Speaker 1: enjoy live entertainment, military ceremonies, Dallas Cowboys alumni autographs, and more.

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Speaker 1: After the event festivities, the Star will be hosting the

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Speaker 1: top two Madden players as they face off in the

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Speaker 1: EA Sports Madden NFL twenty Club Championship presented by Spire.

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Speaker 1: Rob will have more on that coming up shortly here

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Speaker 1: in Jason Garrett's press conference with you, Mick. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett sounded hopeful that Amari could do something out

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Speaker 1: there today. Amari told us in the locker room yesterday

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Speaker 1: there's some optimism that he can go Sunday. Right, They're

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Speaker 1: And so I would I would think what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: hours Sunday. Yes, Yes, he played seven plays last week

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Speaker 1: And then the league said, now we're not doing Now.

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Speaker 1: That was before the salary cap era, yes, and so

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Speaker 1: the salary cap controls that Now. I think what the

429
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Speaker 1: NFL needs to do is go to a baseball injured

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Speaker 1: injury UM policy. Out for a while. Yeah, you can back, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can bring them you know, a month or whatever

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Speaker 1: it is twenty one day disabled. Yeah about not disabled, injured, injured, sorry,

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Speaker 1: injured reserve is eight weeks minimum, but you only can

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Speaker 1: bring back to two guys, and that is after they've

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Speaker 1: already were on the fifty three on September first, okay U,

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Speaker 1: two guys could be designated to return. I think for

437
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: any everybody, it would make the product better. You know,

438
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: and you've invested so much money in these players, But

439
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Speaker 1: what controls the stashing of the players is the fact

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Speaker 1: every team's got a salary cap. You can't spend beyond

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Speaker 1: that salary cap. Those injured players obviously count against the cap,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that's something that they because if

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Speaker 1: you look at the second half of the season, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys happened to be in really good shape. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: say that, knock on wood, their health is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've had a lot of starters banged up,

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Speaker 1: and obviously, you know mari Is, he's dealt with like

448
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: four or five different things with his lower body, quad, knee, ankle,

449
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, killes, tendonitis, whatever it was, play or fasciitis.

450
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, and now this large stretch of games

451
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Speaker 1: coming up in a short period of time, it's something

452
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: you gotta manage with him. But overall, you know, it's

453
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Speaker 1: a young team that's been able to stay relatively healthy.

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Speaker 1: See that the teams were their own worst enemies because

455
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Speaker 1: they were stashing guys, you know, And then in early

456
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: nineties before the salary cap, they had independent physicians come

457
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: to your practices to make sure that guy was really hurt, right,

458
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: I remember, it wasn't out there practicing because they would

459
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: stash guys and then let him practice right on injured reserve.

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Speaker 1: So now you can't do that. So yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: their own worst enemies. And then the salary cap made there.

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Speaker 1: But you would think as much money as is invested

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Speaker 1: in these players that the owners would be all about, Okay, yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: if I'm paying this guy ten million dollars a year

465
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Speaker 1: and I just lost him because he's got a high

466
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Speaker 1: ankle spring in September, I losing for the entire year

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Speaker 1: because we need the roster spot, I mean, and when

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Speaker 1: I could have him back by November first and for

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Speaker 1: the second half of the year, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: what they were trying to do is make it more

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Speaker 1: equitable among the teams so that injuries didn't totally destroy

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Speaker 1: like you can keep you might have guys that are

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Speaker 1: somewhat injured and they could practice and the other team

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Speaker 1: might have four guys that are just just let's make

475
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: it fully equitable where a guy can come back when

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, he comes back December. If he's healthy December first,

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00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: let him come back to this team and you'd have

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Speaker 1: a much better product on the field. It's too bad

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00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: you can't have load management like in them. Yeah, that's right,

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00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: you know. The only that was a topic of conversation.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? You only get sixteen of these

482
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: you don't get eighty two to rest guys. So it

483
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: just doesn't apply to this sport. Oh, because they were

484
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: they were and resting guys back to backs or whatever,

485
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: which is yeah, you know you got to play Sunday Thursday.

486
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: Now you'd take Thursday off. We're going with Cooper Rush. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the last couple of minutes of this segment, let's dive

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Speaker 1: into the Vikings a little bit. What is it that

489
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Speaker 1: concerns you the most about the Vikings their pass rush?

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00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I think I think this is defensively. I think Jason

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Speaker 1: Witten said it. It's probably the toughest test the offense

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Speaker 1: is going to face Hunter two sacks and they're meeting

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Speaker 1: three years ago. Griffin on the other side. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Lyle Collins matchup and saying, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: one you circle. And he's having a terrific year. He's

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Speaker 1: got to be able to handle him on the edge.

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Speaker 1: And you just look at the Vikings defense and they're

498
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: they're just good at every level, linebacker, secondary. You can't

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Speaker 1: afford to get off to a slow start in this one, Mick,

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Speaker 1: and especially making sure your sound against the blitz, because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna blitz. I know Mike Zimmer, and Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 1: loves the blitz, and on third down, my understanding is

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Speaker 1: they will come, they will come with one extra, they

504
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: will come with two extra, and a lot of times

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Speaker 1: they'll just play zero coverage and you're man to man

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00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: on the outside and they're bringing everybody, and you better

507
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: be sound on your blitz pickups, your blitz cutoffs if

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00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: you're a receiver, and don't let this quarterback get hit

509
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: time after time after time. Those two guys that Rob

510
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: Hunter and Griffin, they've totaled fourteen sacks in nine in

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Speaker 1: nine games. And not only that, and I don't know

512
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Speaker 1: if this number is skewed by who's ever keeping the hits.

513
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: But they've got sixty nine quarterback hits. Sixty nine that's

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Speaker 1: a lot. So they better be able to protect Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott and not let those blitzes ruin their offense. And

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Speaker 1: here's the deal, and here's how you beat it. You

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Speaker 1: beat it deep, you burn them, and then all of

518
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: a sudden they might say, you know what, we better

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Speaker 1: back off because we're not getting there. That's the only

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Speaker 1: way you're gonna beat it. Otherwise they're gonna keep coming.

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Speaker 1: I love that matchup of Lyle Collins, the way he's

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Speaker 1: playing this season against the Neil Hunter. He's been He's

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Speaker 1: played at a Pro Bowl conversation level at right tackle,

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Speaker 1: and that's what he's one of. The Hunter and Griffin

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00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: two of the problem maybe the best edge rushing tandem

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Speaker 1: in the league or the NFC, or right right right

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00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: up there. And the Cowboys saw with with what the

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00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: Packers were doing with the the Smith quote unquote brothers. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know they had some some and all teams have

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00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: had some different brothers. Yeah. I tried that line way

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00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: back when I was covering a basketball game. But there

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00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: were two guys on the team named Smith, and I

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00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: thought I was being cute saying the Smith brothers. I

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00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: get a call from the desk. Uh, those two guys

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00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 1: aren't related. But seriously, I mean, you talk about what

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00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Tank and Quinn mean to this group defensively, and these

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00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: guys are in the same conversation. It's the same level

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00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: of play. Really good, all right? We continue with more

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys in just a moment. Back to Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys continues Dallas Cowboys dot com and on Texas

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Speaker 1: twenty one in Dallas, Fort Worth, Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola,

542
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: and Rob Phillips. You can give us a call and

543
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: be a part of the show. Eight five five okay,

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight eight five two two nine seven. We

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Speaker 1: come on call forgot the area you've been doing eight

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00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: eight five five two two nine seven. Numbers changed over

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Speaker 1: the years. They have six two thousand and four. When

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00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: we first did it, we went well, we changed and

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Speaker 1: then we're back to the old reliable, the old reliable

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight eight five ninety seven. So what players

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Speaker 1: do you put in? I go with I go with

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Speaker 1: Emmett and Jason Hatcher two two ninety seven. Yeah, I'm

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00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: going Emmett and Leroy Glover. Okay, okay, eight times? Is

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Speaker 1: that your version of the drop and the prefix would

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Speaker 1: be eight mon and Leroy Jordan's okay eight five five

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Speaker 1: eight five two two ninety seven? Or Bob Hayes and

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Speaker 1: give me another ninety seven, Jimmy Jones, Um, that was Jimmy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was. I wouldn't give you a Triston Hill. Triston

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Speaker 1: Hill would be another one. Okay, ye give us a

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Speaker 1: call and offer up a ninety seven from Cowboys history.

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Speaker 1: All right, I means Rob doesn't have to take emails,

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Speaker 1: doesn't all right? Kids table back in the day, Yeah, Daniel, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I have missed on a lot of players in my

564
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: big Green NFL draft scouting notes. You're but I am

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00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: proud about the Neil Hunter and it to this day

566
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: and for the rest of his career is gonna bug

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00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: me that he went late third round to Minnesota. And

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00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: I looked at him, I ask one, how is this

569
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Speaker 1: guy not a first round draft pick? We did looked

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Speaker 1: at him at LSU. He had no production at LSU

571
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: rushing the pastor, but it looked like and John Chavis

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00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator at LSU. Then when you looked

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00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: at tape of him at LSU. It looked like he

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00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: was coached to defend the run first, and especially back

575
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: then the SEC was a run first conference. But you

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00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: saw glimpses of he could he could go get it

577
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: whenever prompted. Okay, and then his numbers at the combine

578
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: were basically right there with DeMarcus Ware and he slid

579
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Speaker 1: all the way. And here the Cowboys are there drafting

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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory late in the second round when there's that

581
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: obvious need for that defensive end. And it was to

582
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Speaker 1: that point I was so enamored with him. On draft

583
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Speaker 1: day I called. I called his old high school coach

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Speaker 1: who used to be at the Soto here, Dave Meadows,

585
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Speaker 1: who was at Morton Ranch High School in the Houston

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00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: area down in Katie, and I asked him, Okay, tell

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: me about this guy, okay, and he was. He said, well,

588
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: he's the hardest working player I've ever He's an old

589
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: old Texas high school football coach and just about very

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00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: matter of fact about everything and how he's don't name

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Speaker 1: the weight room after him, I'll tell you that much.

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00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: He's such a hard worker. Uh. I couldn't get him

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Speaker 1: out of the weight room. Wait close and turn the

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00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: lights out and he's still in there lifting And I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: so what kind of potential do you think he has

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00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL? All Pro sold it for me. So

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Speaker 1: was he there? Did he get overshadowed by h Mingo?

598
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: Where he was before Marcia's Mango was before him? I

599
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: just slightly Mingo was before um Da Hunter came out

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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, and um anyway, well, and he and

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Speaker 1: he take Gregory in twenty fifteen, what was he picks

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Speaker 1: sixty right, top fifteen talent something like that. Nice ring

603
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: tone by the way, And it's just been the off

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00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: the field stuff, you know. But Gregory at Nebraska showed

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00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: the talent level of an All Pro type rusher. But

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00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: they knew they were taking a chance. They knew it,

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00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: they knew it was a top ten talent. And yeah, yeah,

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00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: and um so anyway, and so now here he is

609
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: forty eight and a half sacks in basically forty two

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Speaker 1: starts in his career. Maybe one of the most underrated

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Speaker 1: guys in because nobody really talks about it. Right, I'm

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00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: be worried about Delvin Cook. We should be yeah, I

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00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: mean team right, he clearly you know they talk about

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00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: you have an ACL injury and it takes you two

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: years to get back to full form. And he's clearly

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Speaker 1: back at full form now. You know, fact that Will

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00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: McClay breaks him down in the film room on the

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00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett Show on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. You want

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Speaker 1: to take look at how the Vikings use this guy,

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00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, you know, and somebody said, well they stopped,

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Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley. I'm going yeah, but that was the

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Speaker 1: Giants offensive line. You know, I this this that guy

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Speaker 1: concerns me more so than Cousins. Well, yeah, and there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a Barkley similarity to me, just

625
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: because he's got thirty three catches too, can help you

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00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: in hurt you in a lot of different ways. And Madison,

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00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: their rookie too, is a guy that has worked in

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00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: to the rotation and can get in there and run

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Speaker 1: the ball effectively as well. But you know, the run

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Speaker 1: defense has been really solid and Shaun Ley has been

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Speaker 1: a big part of that. The last couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: cut last couple of weeks. Yeah, you know, Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: our producer, does a terrific job, and he told me

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of callers on the line. I don't

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00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: do a terrific job of listening. And so is that

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Speaker 1: why your phone rang? Though, it's not why phone callers

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00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: are calling you, right, they called me and so I

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Speaker 1: gotta text them to say no, there's you need to

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Speaker 1: so you've got Michael from Stanford on the here. Michael, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Thanks for taking my call. What's up? Um?

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Speaker 1: I just have a couple of questions. The first one,

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Speaker 1: do you guys think that the Cowboys will do hurry

645
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Speaker 1: up offense to try to tire out the Vikings defense?

646
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Speaker 1: And my second question is do you think Shaun Lee

647
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Speaker 1: has played well enough to get another one year deal

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Speaker 1: next year? All right, thank you very much. If Shaun

649
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Speaker 1: Lee wants to play next year, then Shaun Lee has

650
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Speaker 1: played well enough. And as far as I'm concerned, Sean

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Speaker 1: Lee can play here as long as he wants to

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Speaker 1: play here. I'm with you on that, And yes to

653
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Speaker 1: both of your questions, go hurry up. I mean they've

654
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Speaker 1: done it. You know, if you're if you're moving the

655
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Speaker 1: ball and you're moving with confidence, then do it. Because

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Speaker 1: you know we mentioned during the break the high school

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Speaker 1: went for two points to win. We can go ahead

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Speaker 1: and reveal that team that was just so I forgot

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Speaker 1: school football. And it all it all sounds good when

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Speaker 1: it works, but when it doesn't work and you go

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Speaker 1: three and out and it's like, well, what did you do?

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Speaker 1: You hurried up and went to the bench and you're

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Speaker 1: hanging your defense out. Yeah, it's it's like everybody thinks

666
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Speaker 1: this hurry up is, you know, the panacea of football.

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Speaker 1: It's good to solve everything. Well, what if it doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: what's the downside? Well, you go back to the bench

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Speaker 1: and sit. All right, real quick, we're gonna go to

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Speaker 1: Hector in New York. Hello, Hector. Hector's doing constructor Are

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Speaker 1: you sorry right now? I tell you he banged up

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Speaker 1: talking about des Bran being sign isn't possible to receiver

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Speaker 1: receiver at the moment that I don't know. Once mom,

674
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Speaker 1: he's gone. Man, we struggle in the past. The game

675
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676
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Speaker 1: sign Daz, Are you willing to sign another receiver number one?

677
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Speaker 1: Like you said, gotta have performed to be a number

678
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Speaker 1: one receiver? Kay Ron and com I don't know about them.

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Speaker 1: I love Deaz, but Gallup looked a lot like Daz

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Speaker 1: on that touchdown that he had a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: That was very desl and Devin Smith they still have

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Speaker 1: about Michael Gallup. I think it's taken him. It's he

684
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Speaker 1: he had surgery. He was a bad half and he

685
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Speaker 1: was out for a little bit, and he's rounding back

686
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Speaker 1: into form. I think he's gonna be just fine. You

687
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Speaker 1: know what that reminded me of. But um one of

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Speaker 1: They just let it go right, They thought that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's midnight, one in the morning. What the heck, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's a testament. What kind of show postgame show? That was?

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Speaker 1: Probably too. All right, we got our picks to click,

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Speaker 1: time once again, by the way, prime time apparently as

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Speaker 1: I guess since his network broke the story, imagine that

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Speaker 1: what a football weekend we're in November. I'd love this

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Speaker 1: meg are off. No stress. Okay, all right, now, what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen on Sunday night? Okay about some picks

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Speaker 1: to click and we're gonna get some winners here. Okay,

748
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Speaker 1: win any last week that would be the Giants game.

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Speaker 1: I was a winner last week on my pick to click?

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Speaker 1: Who'd you get? I had Jason Witten pretty good when

751
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Speaker 1: you say good leading receiver. I think I may have

752
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: mentioned Blake Jarwin in there too, based on he was

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Speaker 1: my my one. A. Oh, that's cheating, So I want

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Speaker 1: to go with one I think I got. I had

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Speaker 1: d Law Okay, very okay, yeah, Rob, who did you have?

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Speaker 1: I had Michael Gallop who he made a sports center.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a very good that's deciding fact. Who

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Speaker 1: brought us have? I don't remember, I don't I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I think he took little talent because we are so

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Speaker 1: into ourselves that we don't remember who the other people pick.

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Speaker 1: All right, so who's your pick to click this week? Mickey?

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Speaker 1: I am going to take Michael Gallup because I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to get a lot of single coverage. You

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Speaker 1: think he's going to show Hector in New York? Right,

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Speaker 1: he can be a number one, he can be an

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Speaker 1: ex why or Z? There you go. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Michael Gold Michael gall since I got to go first. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you stole mine, so I'm gonna go. I'm gonna stick

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Speaker 1: with wide receiver, and I'm gonna go with Randall Cobb

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Speaker 1: because while we're optimistic Amari can play. Mickey mentioned the

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Speaker 1: single coverage. I just think Cobb is due for a

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Speaker 1: breakout game and he's played against this defense a lot.

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Speaker 1: Oh good points. He's familiar with Minnesota, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I've lost track of how many touchdowns he's had called

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Speaker 1: back by penalty. Like Mickey says, the more you lose,

776
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: the closer yard of winning. Same with touchdowns, he's due

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Speaker 1: for one or two. That's a good one. I like that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: of course they're familiar with him too, that's fair. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: could do it? Do it? Do it? Who do you

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Speaker 1: think I'm going with Blake Jarwind No, no, no, no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: here's my one a last you know what, this goes

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Speaker 1: against my NF my big Green NFL draft scouting notebook,

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with Lyle Collins is my pick

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Speaker 1: to click. I thought you were gonna take to Neil

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Speaker 1: Hunter because he's going up against the guy with the

786
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: eight and a half sacks, and I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: need Lyle Collins to play well, and I think he's

788
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Speaker 1: up to the challenge. He's played a lot of good

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Speaker 1: speed rushers in his career, so this is not something

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Speaker 1: overwhelming for him. So yeah, I think that's if you're

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00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: circling matchups, that's a big one right there for Sunday Night.

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00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to be watching. Okay, so what

793
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Speaker 1: are you going to be watching when you're when you're

794
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Speaker 1: watching the when the Cowboys are on offense, what is

795
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Speaker 1: it that you're going to be watching for. I will

796
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: be watching to see how well they take care of

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Speaker 1: the blitzing that goes on. And I'm going to try

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Speaker 1: to remember to write down every time they blitz. And

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Speaker 1: you're going to think about your first meeting with Mike

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Speaker 1: Zimmer forty years ago at the University of Missouri, probably

801
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Speaker 1: where he learned to blitz Warren Powers who it was

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Speaker 1: nine and eighty. How about when you're watching the Cowboys

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00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: on offense, what is it that you're going to have

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Speaker 1: your eye trained on for the press box? Just the

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Speaker 1: run blocking and how they're how they're getting to the

806
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Speaker 1: second level and moving things with the offensive line. It

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Speaker 1: was a thing of beauty to watch on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: And I do I think Zeke's onto something. They're they're

809
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Speaker 1: finding a groove in that regard big challenge this week,

810
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Speaker 1: but I think they're they're settling into where they the

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Speaker 1: standard they're used to. That the way the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: run the football really the last two and a half games,

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Speaker 1: even the second half against the Jets game where they

814
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Speaker 1: just got into that mindset and they had the backup

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Speaker 1: tackles in that game. I understand that they, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is our meal ticket right here, feed zeke yep, all right,

817
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Speaker 1: who wins a game? I've got the Cowboys. And in

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Speaker 1: honor of Tony Dorset's ninety nine and a half yard

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Speaker 1: run against the Vikings on the final game of the

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Speaker 1: eighty two seasons. So it was January third, nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys got beat thirty one twenty seven. Well, that

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Speaker 1: score is gonna get reversed. Cowboys thirty one, Vikings twenty seven. Wow,

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Speaker 1: all right, a lot of points in this one. I'm

824
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Speaker 1: going lower scoring. I'll go with Dallas twenty one twenty.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a slug fest and and may come

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Speaker 1: down to the last minute. I wanted in field goals

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Speaker 1: on the could be never, by the way, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to honor the hell Mary, but I didn't think it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be seventeen closing seconds. Here. I'm gonna go

830
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Speaker 1: Cowboys thirty to twenty. Do you realize it's not one,

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Speaker 1: not two, but three games now that the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: gotten the ball with twenty seven seconds or less left

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Speaker 1: in the first half and gotten a field goal that's

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Speaker 1: stealing a possession. Oh, let me write that down three times,

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Speaker 1: tapping against the Jets as well as the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Will it happen against Sunday Night against the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it on Monday on Talking Cowboys.