1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: what's going on? Everybody? Welcome here to another edition to 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast in for d J today, I'm 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Ren Lewis hanging out with Bucky Brooks and I'm actually 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: sitting here in my hotel room in New Orleans on 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: my way to Minneapolis. It is that time of year, 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Bucky is my one of my favorite, might be my 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: favorite time of year outside of draft time, and that 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: is training camp time. And it's out to you know, 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: gives us a chance to get out and see some 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: players in person, to talk to some people, and uh, 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: to see some practice and so you know, I haven't 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: gotten to do that for about a year since we 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: didn't have I t C last year, Bucky. So it's 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: great to be back out. Look, man, it's it's it's outstanding. 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: It's outstanding opportunity and not only get out and see people, 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: but you know, this industry is all about connections and 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: having these conversations, and sometimes when you're in a training 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: camp you actually have conversations that you can't have over 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: the phone. I think it's a great thing. One that 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: coverage that you've had on NFL Network showing all the 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: camps and all the conversations that have taken place when 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: you guys, because you've been hosting a lot of the coverage, 24 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: I've been able to talk to guys. But then I 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: don't know, man, I just think it's something about when 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: your body clock knows his football time. And even though 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: in the industry we know as b rolled and that 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: other stuff, but there's nothing like watching guys with pads on, 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: going through drools and doing all this other stuff. Even 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: though most teams won't even let us show team drills, 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: right right, I mean more than most, it feels like 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: all we've gotten some seven on seven drills from some teams, 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: certainly grateful for that. Know, the Vikings have let us 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: show some stuff the Chargers um, and it's just like 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: it's gold whenever we can get that opportunity to show, 36 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, even if it's just a couple of seven 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: on seven reps UM give the folks, you know, a 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: little bit more than than the stretching. But we're we're 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: thankful for all the video we get um and and 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: it's just great to be back out with the teams. 41 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: I could sit there and and watch the grass grow 42 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: for four hours on television just just to get back 43 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: out here. So and hot day we have football night, Buck, 44 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, hello, here we go. We got football now 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: what every week till like, I don't know, February. This 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: is this is fantastic. We got the Cowboys and the 47 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Steelers kicking off the preseason schedule with the Hall of 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Fame game up in Canton, Ohio. And you and I 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: both Bucky, have been to see the Cowboys a little bit. 50 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: We know we won't see Dak Prescott tonight. I doubt 51 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: we see Ben Roethlisberger. Um, but there's still plenty to 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: gain from a game like this, especially for those guys 53 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: fighting for a spot here. Buck. You know, I think 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to game because with only 55 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: three preseason games, it changes the way that you normally 56 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: would set your rotations. But the Cowboys and Pittsburgh still 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: this have a benefit of a fourth game. So for 58 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: a young guy, this is a great opportunity to have 59 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: bonus time, bonus playing time, to be able to show 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: um coaches and scouts what you can do. Because here's 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: a little behind baseball or behind inside baseball. Yeah give 62 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: it to us. Yeah, the the depth chart chain ages 63 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: dramatically after the first preseason game. All of the things 64 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: that have been done over the spring and summer and 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 1: all of that, it all goes out the window after 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: that first preseason game. So that impression that you make, 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: that first impression in preseason, it needs to be a 68 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: good one. Now you can be left behind it. It's 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: just the nature of the business where the evaluation just 70 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: changes when you begin to play quote unquote real games 71 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: in the preseason. They're the real games of the summer. 72 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: And you know, and I'm thinking back now, Mike Tomlin 73 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: I think announced that Mason Rudolph was going to get 74 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: the start for the Steelers tonight in the Hall of 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Fame game as he's trying to, you know, continue to 76 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: solidify his spot as the backup quarterback there in Pittsburgh 77 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: on a team that's got what Dwayne Haskins right, and 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, has brought Josh Dobbs back last year. So uh, 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, Mason, who's started a few games there, is 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: now going to get that opportunity again tonight for the Steelers. 81 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: And then on the Cowboys side of things here, Bucky, 82 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like obviously Dak Prescott is a is a storyline. 83 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: We've kind of been talking about that a whole bunch, 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: trying to keep it, you know, keep it cautious with 85 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: his return to play, like has not thrown a pass 86 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: to my understanding in like the last week as he's 87 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: trying to deal with that muscle strain. But I'm really 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: interested in the competition and stylistically what this Cowboys defense 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: looks like this year after you know, what was a 90 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: historically bad year a year ago, Layton Vanderesh When I 91 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: was talking to him out there, Bucky, I don't know 92 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: if I saw someone more excited about kind of like 93 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: a fresh start then Layton Vanderesch she's bad, says he's 94 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: back playing the will, but he feels more comfortable in 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: um out there, and there's some real competition, particularly in 96 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: that Cowboys secondary after they drafted three corners. Um, you know, 97 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: they had some guys move on, you know, treybon Digs 98 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: is kind of trying to solidify his spot out there 99 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: as a starting corner. Who's opposite him and then how 100 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: do they work in those other those other young guys. 101 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: I think is something we could really watch for tonight. 102 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: You know what I really like about the Cowboys when 103 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: I've had an opportunity to watch them defensively. I love 104 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the energy that they're playing with. I love how fast 105 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: and free it looks like their team is playing in 106 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: the back seven linebackers are flying around, moving to the 107 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: ball the dbs. It appeared to me when I was there, man, 108 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: they were getting their hands on so many balls that 109 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: you could just feel like the confidence was rising with 110 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: every rep dan Quinn. To me, I think this is 111 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: a great situation for dan Quinn, not only because I 112 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: believe he's gonna fix the Cowboys defense, but being with 113 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: a big brand on the national stage and a platform 114 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I believe in a year so dan Quinn's gonna get 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: another head job because I feel his presence on the 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: field when I'm watching them in practice. And I'm not 117 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: saying that Mike McCarthy is not the head coach of 118 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but I definitely get a sense that dan 119 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: Quinn has a lot of sway and influence on the 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: way the Cowboys are going about their business. And that's 121 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: me saying that after watching them this year year and 122 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: thinking about how they played and how they interacted with 123 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: their coaches last year. Yeah, I think that's an interesting 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: point and it just, um, it feels different out there 125 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: watching this defense, talking to Jalen Smith to Layton vander 126 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Esh just the the excitement, the optimism. I feel like 127 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Bucky is is a whole different ballgame there in Dallas. 128 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: And that actually, as we you know, gets up for 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game tonight and talking a little 130 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: bit about the Cowboys and the Steelers, it kind of 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: gets me into one of my next training camp spots 132 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: where I am right now as we as we work 133 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: through some training camp observations here for you on the 134 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: movie Text podcast, I'm on training camp destination number four 135 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: at a place here in New Orleans where the Saints 136 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: have a new secondary coach who was most recently with 137 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and Chris Richard, and you want to 138 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: talk about energy, he's the voice that you hear loudly 139 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: and constantly at Saints practice. Now, they got some work 140 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: to do in the secondary outside of Marshawn Lattimore and 141 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: Arcus Williams and trying to figure out what they want 142 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: to do at that second corner spot. Maybe it's the 143 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: rookie Paulson, a debo who had some nice reps the 144 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: last couple of days who they drafted in the third 145 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: round and who knows that Marshall Latimore is gonna be 146 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: there for the first couple of weeks as he's kind 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: of dealt with some some legal issues this offseason and 148 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: address those, you know, saying he hopes he doesn't get suspended. 149 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna prepare like he isn't like he's ready to play, 150 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: but in fact is he might actually miss some games, um, 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: depending on how all that settles out with the NFL 152 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: and the personal conduct policy. So but I was it 153 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: was it was fun for me to like stand right 154 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: kind of where Chris Rochard was on the same yard 155 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: line with him as he was watching his guys kind 156 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: of work through one on one because Bucky I always look, 157 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, the receiver and me always looks at one 158 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: on ones from the from the wide receiver perspective. So 159 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: listening to him kind of run back and forth to 160 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: each side, coaching up each guy on each rep, I 161 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: was like, oh man, this is this is kind of 162 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: a cool perspective for me, um to to see what 163 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: he's talking about. Let me just say this, whatever been 164 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: with Marshall Latimore to start the season, there's nobody that 165 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: can beat him in one on ones with the Saints 166 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: about that, I didn't see it. I didn't see I mean, now, 167 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: keeping mind, Michael Thomas isn't out here, but tre Kwan 168 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: Smith and Marshawn were kind of paired up, you know 169 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: they were. They were the guys going rep for rep 170 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: with each other. And you know, trake Wan had I mean, 171 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: he had a shadow and it was Marshall Latimore. M 172 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: hm uh so yeah, No, I don't know. There's two 173 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: things when I think of that. Either Marshawn Lattimore is 174 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: on the top of his game or we have serious 175 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: concerns about the Saints wide receivers in their inability to 176 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: get open. Now I would say this, I know you 177 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: are a guys always followed the Saints like it's kind 178 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: of like a party like that. I mean, is that that? 179 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: Is that your That's my hometown team. It was my 180 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: childhood team. Yeah. My pops worked there for thirty two years. Um, 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: and he went to some other destinations. So I get this, 182 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: I get this wrong. So I knew the Detroit thing. 183 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: I didn't know he worked in the Saints for thirty years, 184 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: yes nine, Oh okay, so Detroit thing. Oh so that's 185 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: that's really your squad, like deep down that's yeah, that's 186 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: that's it. That's the childhood devote. Well, but you know 187 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: how family loyalties go though, right if if there's an 188 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: unceremonial yea during so now, so now you have mixed 189 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: feelings when you walk in the buildings different, it's not 190 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: the same enough times passed, but yeah, go ahead, Oh no, 191 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: I get that because um I can say this red. 192 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings with the five teams that I 193 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: worked for that I played for it, and I gotta 194 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: let go. Like it was tough, but um, I do 195 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: worry about their receivers and the playmakers or maybe lack 196 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: there of on the perimeter. But then the thing that 197 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: always brings me back. I've seen this Saints team for 198 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: years half deduction with a bunch of yeah defree Henderson. 199 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: You know Robert Mitchum before he got that big contract 200 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: with the Charger, Marcus Colston, Marcus Colst. I mean like 201 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: they've done it now. The difference was I think, Yeah, 202 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: you had Drew Brees or whatever. Now you have a 203 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: different quarterback situation. That's the key. Bud changes it and 204 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated by this quarterback battle because in my mind, 205 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: you sorry, James Weston, Taysom Hill can do what he's 206 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: always done, but starts. How does that change his utilization? Um, yeah, 207 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: that that changes, That changes it a little bit. We 208 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: had this conversation actually with dj who was a part 209 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: of our show yesterday here from New Orleans and kind 210 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: of felt the same way. It was like, if you, 211 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you add Tayson as the starter, you 212 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: lose jane Us entirely, whereas if you take Jamis you 213 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: can still have taste if you take Jamis as a starter. Now, 214 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how much that that's really I think 215 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: Sean Payton kind of downplayed all that with with Baldi 216 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: when Baldi was talking to him, Um, and they're alternating. 217 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a it's a real competition here, 218 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: even though it feels like it's Jamis Winston's job to lose. 219 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: The last couple of days I don't think have been 220 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: the best days for the quarterbacks from from the guys 221 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: I was talking to out here watching practice like there 222 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: had been some better days earlier. Both of we're struggling 223 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know, struggle. It just wasn't 224 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: as sharp. Yeah, it just wasn't as sharp. It wasn't 225 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: as sharp as as you might expect. But um, I mean, 226 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: poor Jamis got knocked over running through the gauntlet. Um 227 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: if you saw, I did see that. It wasn't a 228 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: great look. It wasn't a great look for my man. Um. 229 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: You know those things didn't happen some time. Yeah, go 230 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: hey man, watch out, watch out James. Stay out of 231 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: that stuff. Stay out of that the big fellas, Um, 232 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: watch out Jamie. That's um so anyway. So that's what 233 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: they're dealing with with the quarterback spot. But you are 234 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: absolutely right that there is some there are some real 235 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: questions about what they're gonna do for playmakers on the perimeter. Now. 236 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: Deonte Harris has played really well in camp. I think 237 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: he's kind of coming into his own more as a 238 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver. But I think he's out for the first 239 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: couple of games of the season. Um track, Kawan Smith 240 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: left practice on Tuesday. Uh did not practice on Wednesday. 241 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: So you're out there, Bucky with the guy who we 242 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: watched at the nflp A collegib Bowl in Marquez Callaway, 243 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: the under aff the free agent from Tennessee who's basically 244 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: their number one receiver. And no, that's not you know, 245 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: that's not any disrespect. That's just to say, like you 246 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: know that those are the resources that the Saints have 247 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: spent in that uh in that position group. And so 248 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: you've got you've got Marquis Callaway who played well as 249 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: a rookie last year. I caught some balls from Drew 250 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Brees and and then the other thing is Chris Hogan. 251 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 1: To me, it was like the best receiver out in 252 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: the field the last two days and he just signed 253 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: like three days ago. Well that's the problem because because 254 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: now we know Chris Hogan is a four or five, 255 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: not a one, two or three. Like it's a nice compliment. 256 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: We don't go to Ruth Chris in order Chris Hogan. 257 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying right on the coast. That's 258 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: family stuff. You know. Look, he's made a nice career 259 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: for himself, you know what I mean. He's done really 260 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: has one some Super Bowls with the with the Patriots, 261 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: and and you know, has has played well in the 262 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: NFL and has earned the right to have this opportunity 263 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: and has taking advantage of it. So great for him, 264 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: But how does that make you feel about the Saints, right, 265 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: because then then you know you're looking at like Kawan 266 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: Baker from South Alabama was their seventh round pick. Um, 267 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: little Jordan Humphrey is out here to they resigned Tommy 268 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: Lee Lewis. Um. I just don't know what to make 269 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: of that crew yet. I mean, look, man, by the 270 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: sounds of it, it doesn't it doesn't sound great. But 271 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: here here's what I've always believed to be the key 272 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: for the Saints on offense. Um, when they're at their best, man, 273 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: it's the running game. And I think we really rattled off. Yeah, 274 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: if we rattled off and rank their top offensive players 275 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: throughout the offensive line, man, I think it has to 276 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: be Kamara and let Tavis Murray at the top of 277 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: the charts. Right. So does that mean we get more 278 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: of the two back rotation, the two back situation where 279 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: maybe you put both of those guys on the field, 280 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: or are we doing the rotation that they used to 281 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: have When you remember they used to roll through Ingram 282 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: and Kamara and all those other guys going all the 283 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: way back with scrolls. They had a bunch of different 284 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: running backs Thomas, Yeah, key rolls. And so I wonder 285 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: if tom if Sean Payton goes back to that recipe 286 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit of the ball control, 287 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: pounded play action, that part of it. As opposed, it 288 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: would make sense open quarterback centric version of the Saints 289 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: that we have seen the last few years when Drew 290 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Brees was certainly in his front and let's not forget 291 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: they just signed DeVante Freeman a few days ago as well. 292 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: So you throw you know, free who you know, hasn't 293 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: been the same player he was, you know in in 294 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: the early parts of his career when he's with the Falcons. 295 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: You throw him into that mix, and it makes me wonder, like, 296 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, are you right? And maybe even are we 297 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna see some chimera you know lined up? You know 298 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: why guys called eighty balls a year for the last 299 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: four years. You know it's it read is something that 300 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Obuly we absolutely could see is utilizing that part of 301 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: his game. Because to me, that's the thing like going 302 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: base personnel, two backs on the field, but using Kamar 303 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: as the third wive receiver. How do you handle it 304 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: as a defense? Do you put nickel on the field, 305 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: do you play your bass um those kinds of things? Yeah, 306 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: and so yeah, yeah, and uh, by the way, Pete 307 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: Werner getting a lot of run for the Saints with 308 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: the ones and two's trying to soliddle find that spot 309 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of standing next to Mario defense, to Mario Davis 310 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: on that second level of the Saints defense. Zack Bond 311 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: competing for that spot as well, their third round pick 312 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: from last year on the Wisconsin. Um. So there's there's 313 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: some and then Pickton Turner I think has has impressed well. 314 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: He's been big. I mean, like cam Jordan was talking 315 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: to Baldi, it was like, man, I'm the smallest defensive 316 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: end in our room right now. I got I got 317 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Marcus daven pored over here, I got Tono Passengo that's 318 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: six seven now, and we got Peyton Turners up six 319 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: four and I'm the smallest kin in this room. Uh. 320 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: They got a nice, nice little rotation that's gonna be. 321 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: I think Dennis Allen is a great job with that 322 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: defense in New Orleans, and I just I think one 323 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: way or another they're gonna be okay. Um. But as 324 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: I wrap up my thoughts about New Orleans, I'll tease 325 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: ahead to what we're gonna wrap up this show with 326 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: is one breakout player here and this breakout player will 327 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: come Um from the New Orleans Saints for me, So 328 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: little tease for you, but I want to get to 329 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: some of your training camp observations here, Buck, that you've 330 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: seen with some of the teams that you've been around. 331 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: So it was great. Like last weekend, I had a 332 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: chance to be around the Cleveland Browns. It was the 333 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: day that the news broke about Nick Chubb signing the extension. 334 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome, Like twelve million a year, three years, three 335 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: or six million. I want to say twenty million of 336 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: that is guaranteed. And in watching that Browns team, Man, 337 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: this team is so talented everywhere you look. I mean 338 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: they have five star playmakers everywhere, Miles Garatge, Davian Clowney, Um, 339 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: you look in the secondary. They were raving about the 340 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: Ricky greg Newsome from Northwestern coming in and they were 341 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: only talking about his talent, but they're talking about his aptitude, 342 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: how scheme friendly he has been with anything and everything 343 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: that they've thrown at him. So you put him opposite ward, 344 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: you have John Johnson the third coming over as a 345 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: free agent control in the middle of the defense. Um, 346 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Walker Jr. Coming from the They just really loaded. 347 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: But then offensively, I think that is where the confidence 348 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: of the team stems from in terms of their Super 349 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: Bowl aspirations. The offensive line is one of the best 350 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: in the league, if not the best. When you watched 351 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: him work in Unison, Bill Callahan doesn't get enough credit 352 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: for what he's done with that unit. But then when 353 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: you go to the running backs and just watching them 354 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: work in end though right Coreede Hunt and Nick Chubbed 355 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: like thick, physical runners who also can cast the ball 356 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: off the backfield. The day that I was there, O 357 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: b j wasn't working out, but man, he looks great. 358 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: He looks great watching kind of bouncing around and doing 359 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: things Jarvis Landry was doing it. Um, they're really excited 360 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: about Donovan People's Jones absolute yeah, freak athlete who's kind 361 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: of coming into his own and watching him improve. And 362 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: then the three tight ends that they have right there's 363 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: some I guess there was some tension early in the 364 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: off season with David and Joeku maybe not wanted to 365 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: be there, but then when you look, they have three 366 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: tight ends that deserves to be on the field at 367 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: the same time. Harrison Bryant, David and Joeku Austin Hooper. 368 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: All of those guys can play, and so I just 369 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: think about the potential multiplicity of this offense and what 370 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski wants to do. Man, you should get really excited. 371 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: And the thing that I really like about the way 372 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: that they practice it reminded me of the old forty 373 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: Niners Packers practices that I've been around, where it is 374 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: more mental than physical. The temple is there, but man, 375 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: he's really taking care of the guys. I believe the 376 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: number one objective is to get to the regular season 377 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: fully loaded with all of their weapons available because the talent, 378 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: just the talent, man gives them a chance, gives them 379 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: a chance to win a ton of games. I really 380 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: believe that they are focused on getting the game one 381 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: ready to go, and I think they could explode. And like, 382 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: how rare is it that we're talking about a team 383 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: arguably having the best draft when you're drafting all the 384 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: way back where they were, you know, I mean, like 385 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: it's and and we're and we're gonna see I can't 386 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: wait to see some of these guys in the preseason. 387 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm I am so excited for preseason football this year 388 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: because we didn't have it last year. Uh, you know, 389 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: we can watch all every single preseason game at one 390 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: point or another. We'll be on NFL Network and a 391 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: record twenty three live preseason games on NFL Network this 392 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: year starting uh gosh, starting I think the twelfth of August. 393 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: So we're we're coming up on it here next Thursday 394 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: week from today. Yeah, it's crazy, like I'm I'm I'm 395 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: heading to Jacksonville. Uh this weekend, we have a scrimmage 396 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: with the Jaguar, So I'm working through some of the mechanics. 397 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Um in terms of I'm teaming up with Brian Sexton 398 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: to do the color he's doing, to play about play, 399 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: going through all of that stuff, and then that following 400 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday, the fourteen Jaguars and Browns, and I think 401 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: that will probably be rebroadcast, yes, work, So it should 402 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: be interesting. It should be a lot of fun. I 403 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear you in the booth man. I 404 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: know we had that. We had so much fun together 405 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: out there Pasadena at the nflp A game. So I know, Red. 406 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to do a shameless plug, but I 407 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: feel like you and I should get more of the 408 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: games that network. I feel like you know Red Like 409 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't know if you know. 410 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: We haven't talked about all that, but like the East 411 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: West game is gonna be on the network on a Thursday, 412 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: is the Senor bol Like, Yeah, you come be in 413 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: the booth with us, you come be a spoderpers built 414 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. So no, that was fun. Yeah, 415 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: so it should be a lot of fun. And so, 416 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: like you just talked about all the things that we're 417 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: covering in how the network is doing such a great 418 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: job of just putting all those games on. So it 419 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: should be a ton of fun, no question. All right, 420 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: So you're going to Jacksonville this weekend. I am about 421 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: to board a plane, well not about to, but about 422 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: two hours from now, I got to get on a 423 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: plane to go to Minneapolis. There's been a lot going 424 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: on with the Vikings. Make sure you mask up well. 425 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: The good that I think Mike Zimmer is gonna be 426 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: in a much better mood now that Kirk Cousins and 427 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: Nate Stanley are off the COVID nineteen list and are 428 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: back out at practice. I don't know what the word 429 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: is on Kellen mond Um, but it didn't sound like 430 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: coach Zim was super excited about how that whole situation 431 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: went down. Um, so maybe I can get out of 432 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: there without actually having to ask him about it. Now 433 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: that those guys are back. Um so I'm curious to 434 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: see what what that team looks like. I mean, for 435 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: my money, one of the best wide receiver duos in 436 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: football with Adam Feeling and Justin Jefferson. Um, and then 437 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: I've got trips to the Giants, uh in the Bengals 438 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: after that. And the Bengals are really kind of sneaky 439 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: intriguing this year, especially for a guy who loves wide 440 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: receiver play like I do, and I like, I know 441 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: you do watching that trio with Jamar Chase joining the fold. 442 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: So all right, so that'll be fun. We've got there 443 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: those training camp We'll have some more training camp thoughts 444 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: here for you as you keep checking back with us 445 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: here on the Movie six podcast. But I want to 446 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: leave this episode, Bucky by paying off our tease with 447 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: a breakout player heading in. Obviously, we could choose like 448 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: a hundred different players um here that we feel like 449 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: a're really going to step into a nice role in one. 450 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: The guy for me, as I was teasing, is a 451 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saint and he was a rookie last year 452 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: at tight end. Adam Troutman. Now, there's a lot of 453 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: reasons why I feel like this could be a breakout 454 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: player for Bucky. Because one go back and listen to 455 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: our conversation about the Saints receivers. Okay, they need some 456 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: production out of that position. By the way, Emmanuel Sanders 457 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: and Jared Cook, who was there tight end here last year. 458 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: In the last couple of years, those two guys accounted 459 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: for twelve touchdowns together last year and they're both gone. Okay, 460 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: So I think there's a void at tight end that 461 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: Adam Troutman can step into. And I think he's been 462 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: getting he's been impressing, and I think the Saints really 463 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: like him. Um, this second year player out of Dayton, 464 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: and so I'm excited to see what he does this 465 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: year for this team. And I mean, like the media 466 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: guys that I've been talking to you that have been 467 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: out here in practice, you know, kind of raved about 468 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: the plays that Adam Troutman was making. And I'm bummed out. 469 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: I have my first Fantasy draft last week or last night, 470 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: and yeah, I know, way too early. Yeah, I know 471 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: it's way too early. But we were all my friends 472 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: were in New Orleans together. We're all in the same 473 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: league and we've never been in you know, I've been 474 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: able to do a live draft. So we did it 475 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't get Somebody snuck Troutman before I was. 476 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna take him so anyway, Um, but I 477 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: think Adam Troutman has a has a real opportunity to 478 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: be a breakout player. Here. Who you got? Oh so look, man, 479 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: like I can played at home. I'm gonna tay you. 480 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: I know you were a Cowboys game. Everyone is talking 481 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: about Seedee Lamb. Yeah, the trick I will say, like, 482 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: I won't pick him as my breakout player, but I 483 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: will say this. They have told me that they're doing 484 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: something different in Dallas that they haven't done before. Is 485 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: where all the receivers are interchange well, meaning they can 486 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: play anywhere in the position in the formation. See and 487 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: m last year had almost a thousand yards playing extensively 488 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: in the slot. And now you give him the opportunity 489 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: to move outside because he's been occupying pretty much the 490 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: number one receiver role since Marie Cooper has been sidelined. Well, 491 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: he has a chance to do terrific things. So he 492 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: is a guy to keep an eye on the other guy, 493 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: I will tell you keep an eye on. This is 494 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: a bit of a Homer plug Labiscus Channault from Jacksonville. Hey, 495 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: I am hearing that there may be a bit of 496 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: a love affair between urban Meyer and Channault and what 497 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: he believed Chanot could be. I just think back to 498 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: what he was able to do at Colorado when he 499 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: would play wildcat QB and he would catch the perimeter, 500 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: he would get the ball in his hands. Well, we've 501 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: heard so much about the eight back position in urban 502 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: Meyer's office, how the best athlete goes there. We're talking 503 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: about Percy Harvin and Paris Campbell and Curtis Samuel, Labiscus 504 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: and not. I like it that role. Even though we 505 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: heard people talk about Travis ETSI en. Yeah, I think 506 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: the Viscus should not is probably the guy. He's going 507 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: to get an opportunity to be the h back for 508 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Could be one of those stars of the 509 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: preseason two that we see kind of emerge. Yeah, you 510 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: can make it, can make it, can make it really 511 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: really explosive and dynamic for them. With DJ Chark together 512 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: there and if you're using Travis c t N you 513 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: know split out to I mean, like that is that's 514 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: an explosive bunch. Um, that's exciting. Um, I'm excited for 515 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: you getting up in the booth and call some Jaguars preseason. 516 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: Uh there for the Jags all right, So uh let's see. 517 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: So you're up next in Jacksonville. You got any other 518 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: teams on your docket, by the way, before before this 519 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: thing is over. No, that's it. Like, that's it keeping local. 520 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: I go see the rams and the charges in those things. 521 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: Um my eyes on them. But right now, man, it's 522 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. I kind of like the schedule. I 523 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: like sitting back at the house and just looking at 524 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: what everyone is showing on NFL Network, what everyone's talking 525 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: about in the conversations. Also if the listeners are not 526 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: paying attention, like each and every day on NFL dot com, 527 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: there's a Training Camp Buzz that kind of like to 528 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: have some of the best conversations and written form that 529 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: guys have throughout the day. Very well checked it out. 530 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: A lot of insight dropped in those nuggets. Uh so 531 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: look forward to Training Camp Buzz. It's on NFL dot com. 532 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Also over there in the NFL app which 533 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: you can find. So all right, that's gonna do it 534 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: for us on this episode. I'll the move the six 535 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: podcast back next week with a couple more episodes as well, 536 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: and check out all of our video content over at 537 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash mt S video. I assumed DJ 538 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: will be back at some point next week from his 539 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: training camp tour Um, and I will check in with 540 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: you guys a bit later, all right, buck see you, Bud, 541 00:27:47,960 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: appreciate it right aout half to go to a moment 542 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: ut