1 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: We got great players that have proven that they can 2 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: play and play well in this league, and for some 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: for some reason, right now, it's just not all clicking 4 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: and we gotta we gotta figure that out. And I 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: think leading and just it's still in confidence in those guys, 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: but also, like I said, that sense of urgency of 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: it's not all right, all right, we're getting to the 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: point where it's not okay, like it's I get it, 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm gonna miss some throws and you 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: guys hold me accountable. I'm not gonna There's gonna be 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: plays that I want back. There's you know, three or 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: four today that I went back where I didn't do 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: my job, and I expect the coaches to hold me 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: accountable and they will. And I'm gonna hold the white 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: outs of tight ends, the running backs to o line 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: accountable as well for stuff that you know, they're not 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: doing the best in their job. So we all no 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: one can get their feelings hurt, and we don't have 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: guys that do. But we all have to have that 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: accountability and I think that's the biggest thing, and we 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: all have to lead in that way of taking accountability 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: for what we're doing. 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: Definitely an accountability day for the Jaguars. Welcome to Jagxam. 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm ka Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier with us, 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: and I don't think any of us expected what we 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: saw against the Texans expectations and we got to just 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: get rid of that because this team is somewhere. We 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: didn't expect them. 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: To be a walk into my car last night, and 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: I just kind of flippantly said to somebody, and I 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: realized it's true. If you'd taken me, if you had 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: just gotten back from the future right gotten out of 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: Marty mcflys Stlorean and told me, hey, I've been there. 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: You know the Jaguars lose this game, and they lose 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: by twenty points, I wouldn't have believed you. There's no 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: way you could have told me that a team coming 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: off a bad week of practice and a loss to 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champs against a Houston Texans team that 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: was playing with a rookie quarterback and without key players 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: in key positions would not only win but beat the 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: Jaguars as thoroughly as they did. I wouldn't have been 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: able to believe you. 43 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: And John, it was every facet of the game as well. 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't you know before we're dragging on the offense, 45 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: but it was everybody yesterday. 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was stunningly everybody. I spent last 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: night answering emails trying to figure out how to explain 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: it really can't. 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: You know. 50 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: It felt to me that they played with a lot 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 4: of energy early, like I mean very early, and then 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: when Calvin Ridley had the drop tough catch, but you know, 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: a guy was brought here to make that play, and 54 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: then the field goal and then it went the other way. 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: It was almost like they were stunned for twenty five 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 4: minutes of game time, and then you had the weird 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: kickoff returning They were getting back into it, I thought 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: Doug after the game was clearly sort of angry and 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 4: maybe a little. 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 5: At a loss for what had happened. 61 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: I'm not saying a lot they can't figure it out, 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: but sure a little stunned. 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 5: And I think anybody would have been. 64 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: No, and I'm gonna start questioning some mental toughness, right, 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it feels and I asked Doug this at 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: the end of the news conference. That gets between the 67 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: years here, right, You could see that when they were 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: in the huddle or at the line of scrimmage, there 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: was something missing. And I know I was, you know, 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: nebulous last week trying to put my finger on it, 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: but I really I'm gonna say, I think it's time 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: to start questioning. And I got the sense yesterday that 73 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: both Trevor and Doug are questioning everyone around them and 74 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: their mental toughness. And Trevor even said of himself, so, 75 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: I mean, if it's a matter of confidence, come on, 76 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: they should have enough of that. How did they go 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: from a team who figured out a way to win 78 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: at the end of last year, right so many games 79 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: where they just figured it out to a team that 80 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: all of a sudden doesn't believe they could do it. 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that's it. I think it's 82 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: a good question. Could be asked all week long, and. 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: Should It's a fair question to ask as well. Let's 84 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: start off with our big things today, cold start. We've 85 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: been talking a lot about a fast start, but as 86 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: we mentioned that up and Calvin Ridley and things started 87 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: to spiral after that, Doug tried to figure out what 88 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: went wrong, and you talked about it, posting. 89 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 6: You're seeing you're seeing you know, the drops, you're seeing, 90 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 6: the the turnovers, you're seeing penalties, untimely penalties. You're seeing 91 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 6: flashes of you know, excellence and brilliance and then then 92 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 6: a setback. And it's just the consistency that we need 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 6: needs to improve and it's not there right now. You know, 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 6: We've got to continue to work and continue to get 95 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 6: better and uh, you know, figure figure some things out. 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: All credit to the Texans for taking advantage, but the 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: Jaguars gave a lot of that to them. And it's 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: got to be extra frustrating when you know you're the 99 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: ones making the mistakes and giving away points and victories. 100 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: At what point, Yeah, just I mean the drop is 101 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: Doug you said, I mean he was brought here to 102 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: make that catch, and that's a catch that an eleven 103 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: million dollar receiver aspirations of being a twenty million dollar 104 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: receiver in the future. Those guys make that catch. And 105 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: then and then how about here's one that people think 106 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: it forgotten. How about on third and short in your 107 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: midfield on the Jaguars second drive where you have trevis 108 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: Or traps Travis and Trevor colliding in the backfield. I mean, 109 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: you have a chance to get a first down here 110 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: and keep the momentum going. And when does that happen? 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: I mean just it made almost no sense and it 112 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: just kept going and spiraling out of control. 113 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 4: The strange and it takes a while to get to 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: this stat but against Kansas City last week, five times 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: past the fifty and the first half, six points. Yesterday 116 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: four times past the fifty and the first half and 117 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: no points. You had the fumble at the end of 118 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: the half, the sheriff hands to the face that took 119 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 4: away the fourth down. When you felt like they were 120 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: getting back into it, they were scoring positions two field goals. 121 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 4: You know, you don't get those six points early on 122 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: the field goal attempts, and guess what if you have 123 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: those when the kick return goes the other ways, eight 124 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: point game instead of fourteen. It all those things matter 125 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: and to not get points, I think Trevor said they 126 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: didn't have a three and out, so the offense didn't 127 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 4: feel like it couldn't do anything. It was just when 128 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: it would get going all of a sudden, you know, 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: mistake here and weird. But you can talk about it 130 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 4: meat individually, but then the reality is you got to 131 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: look at as a trend because it's happening every. 132 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: Week, and for me this week, I think special teams 133 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: surprised me a lot. For you know, missed kick, blocked kick, 134 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: the fullback return, which we'll get to in the second block, 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: and ridiculous. I don't even have words for that still, 136 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: but I think just to see mistakes where we haven't 137 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: seen them before, it's building on itself in the wrong direction. 138 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: Well, you kept waiting, I know I did. I kept 139 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: waiting for someone to put their foot down and something 140 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: to change, right, because that's what we had seen from 141 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: this team. And of course I havent Ingram said in 142 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: the locker room after the game. You know, we're not 143 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: the same team. We can't just assume that we're gonna 144 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: be the same team. Okay, well they proved that yesterday. 145 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: Now they're not the same team that they were when 146 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: last season ended. And you know, if I'm sitting here 147 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: questioning again saying, why couldn't they turn things around? If 148 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: they're doing that two totally different things, that's an issue. 149 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: Well, I think you did have a foot down moment 150 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: at the start of the second half, and then the kickoff. 151 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: It's funny, it's gonna go down. It's me of most 152 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: players to get replayed. I understood that maybe even a 153 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: little more than the two misses in the first half, 154 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: because it was one of those weird plays where all 155 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: a sudden, the balls on the ground and then everybody 156 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: sort of collapses and he just popped outside and it 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: became a numbers thing. 158 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: It was. 159 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: It was not good, but it was kind of one 160 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: of those fluky things where you're like, okay, that it 161 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: was a break that went against him, I thought more 162 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: than you know, but. 163 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: That it went against them on a day where everything 164 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: was going yeah. I mean, they couldn't get momentum back. 165 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: The block kicks and the miskicks in the first half. 166 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: My guess is that that bothers them more than the 167 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: return did. I'm talked maybe about that, but that would 168 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: be my guess. 169 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: I think that kick reaturns just timing, which was really tough. 170 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: Oh not. 171 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: Big thing Number two for us is the trenches. We 172 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: talked last week about the offensive line being a concern 173 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: for this team, but the defensive line struggled yesterday as well, 174 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: and Dog talked about how you got to fix things 175 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: on the line. 176 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 6: We have to do better. We have to do better 177 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 6: starts up front, starts with the offensive line on offense, 178 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 6: starts with the defensive line on defense. It starts right there. Again, 179 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this again. We need to coach better, 180 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 6: we need to play better, We need to execute better. 181 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 6: Whether we are reading our press clippings. We need to 182 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 6: get out of our own way right now. We need 183 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 6: to evaluate ourselves, beginning with me, and we gotta figure 184 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 6: out how to win the game. 185 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: Are hard. Look in the mirror moments Doug mentioned both lines, 186 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: offensive and defensive line, and you feel like it's affecting 187 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: people around the lines as well. Like Trevor doesn't necessarily 188 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: look totally comfortable in the pocket, the defense is not 189 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: in the same place as the cornerback's trying to deal 190 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: with the line. It's just I don't know if I 191 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: have the words right. They had a backup line trying 192 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: to figure it out as I talk. 193 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: But I'm just they had a backup lift tackle, a 194 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: backup lift guard, a backup center, and their number two 195 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: right tackle in the game, and the Jaguars couldn't get 196 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: enough pressure right the pass rush yet flip side right, 197 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: they were playing with a that is an average group. 198 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: No longer are those the JJ Watt Texans that dominate 199 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. That's not a powerful group. And 200 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: I kept thinking, as I looked all week long last week, 201 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: here's where the Jaguars win this ballgame. John. They're gonna 202 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: win it up front, which will give Trevor time to 203 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: be able to calm down and get the passing offense 204 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: into some sort of a rhythm, and the defense should 205 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: be able to eight turnovers. Because I thought yesterday they 206 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: would win up front. That's where I sit here this 207 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: morning and go, Okay, who is this team? 208 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: Yep? 209 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: Because that's not the team I expected to see on 210 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: the lines. 211 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's what made it so odd to try 212 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 4: to analyze because. 213 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 5: They had. 214 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: They had some runs stop for the most part, they 215 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: ran with power I thought the Jaguars did, and that 216 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: felt early on like they were enforcing their will at times. 217 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: Usually that turns into a game long with time, and 218 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: then he had time and then they would have moments 219 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: where they would have three first downs and a drive 220 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 4: E Tam would run well and then and then the 221 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: drive dies of the thirty five. 222 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: So it was this weird. 223 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: Probably when you go back and look at film, there 224 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 4: will be a bunch of players where they go, Okay, 225 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: good stuff, and then at the end of the film session, 226 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: but why didn't we win? You know, so some games 227 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: are very easy to figure out. This one was a Again, 228 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: I felt like I was copy and paste him from 229 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: the week before because I just wrote missopportunities and mistakes, 230 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: and that's what this team is right now for last 231 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: two weeks. 232 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: Well, and it's worth noting you're playing without maybe your 233 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: best offensive lineman and Cam Robinson. Okay, he wasn't playing 234 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: that well in August, but he is a highly paid 235 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: left tackle and a guy who's played at a high 236 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: level before. And on defense, you're playing without Devon Hamilton, 237 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: who they just paid because of what he is able 238 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: to do. So both those guys are sitting. I guess 239 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: if you're looking for some ray of sunshine here in 240 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: the opening of the show, it's that next week we 241 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: can talk about how you can make some changes to 242 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: the offensive line. You can get Cam back, you can 243 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: move Walker inside, you can put Tyler Shatley in at 244 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: center if he's ready to go. Physically, I think the 245 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: center is a problem for them right now. I think 246 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Luke Fortner is going backwards more often than he's going forwards, 247 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 3: and that's troubling for a guy that you expected to 248 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: take a step forward this year after starting all nineteen 249 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: games last year. At least you can talk before Buffalo 250 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: about moving some guys and improving normally. At this time 251 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: end of the year, John Help is not on the way. 252 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you don't have a lot of options. There's 253 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: not someone on the street that's going to come in 254 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: and save you. But the Jaguars do with Cam Robinson 255 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: coming back in a week. 256 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, the offensive line is a little bit more of 257 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: a thought for me than the defense wasn't good yesterday. 258 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: The defensive line wasn't good yesterday. They weren't bad the 259 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: first two games though. 260 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 5: So I. 261 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: Don't I doubt that they're ready to sort of throw 262 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: in the towel in huge trade time. 263 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 5: I think it fed the narrative people had. 264 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: In the off season and it's a bad defensive line, 265 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: but it didn't play that way the first two weeks. 266 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: So let's see the next week or so that how 267 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 4: it goes. The offensive line so far has been I 268 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 4: thought it'd be better, Yeah, I did. 269 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: Our third big thing today is what was that? Because 270 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: as we mentioned some of them already. There's more than 271 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: a few plays in this game that just you know, 272 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: had you scratching your head. For me. A lot of 273 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: them were the penalties and some of the special teams 274 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: as well. But Trevor talked a little bit about what 275 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: went wrong in that game on Sunday. 276 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: You never want that to be the case. And it 277 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I mean, I'll say this, like, it doesn't 278 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: matter who you play, when you play, where you play. 279 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: If you don't execute and you do stuff like. 280 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: That, you won't win a game. You won't beat anybody. 281 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: And the way we play today, it's like we just 282 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: can't expect to win playing that way. And there just 283 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: has to be there has to be some give. There 284 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: has to be an insurgency. It's just it's not okay 285 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: to make the same mistakes that we've been making, to 286 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: do to have the dumb penalties, to have the the 287 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: bad place, to throw a pick, you know, and lay 288 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: in the game like I did, Just to do stuff 289 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: like that, it's like, it's not all right. You know, 290 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: we all have to look in the mirror, take accountability, 291 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, take that and own it and move on. 292 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 2: Mistakes are fine, Repeated mistakes are the problem here, and 293 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: we're seeing you know, penalties really at the line making penalties, 294 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: the offensive line making penalties as Trevor when you shouldn't 295 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: have been thrown that ball. 296 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 3: How about Brandon McMahon, it's missing, I mean field goal. 297 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: It was well within his range, ess and. 298 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: He's brought in for his you know, he's a veteran kicker. 299 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 3: That was the point right and Kyle he missed it? 300 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: Why did? It was never going to go in. That's 301 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: when I turned to somebody. I went, oh boy, this 302 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: thing is going out of control. We're talking to Marcus Stroudt, 303 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 3: the three time Pro Bowl defensive tackle. It's like, how 304 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: does he miss that? Right? That's when I knew this 305 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: thing is still not in the right rhythm. It's not 306 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: in the right groove. Something's wrong. 307 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: Yeah it again. I go back to that first drive 308 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 5: and it was almost. 309 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: To me maybe I hate psychoanalyzing a team like this 310 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: because things happen during the game that we can't see. 311 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: But you come out and you have all this energy, 312 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: you get a good stop defensively early, and then you 313 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: have a play where the quarterback puts it right where 314 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: he had to put it with your big time playmaker 315 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: there on the goal line. If he catches that, that's 316 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: all over the highlight shows, right, that's what Sports Center 317 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: play for. Rhydic, doesn't it misses that? And then all 318 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: of a sudden, to me, there's a feeling, well, we 319 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: gave it our best shot, and that shouldn't be that 320 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: feeling at that point, But that was a feeling I had. 321 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 4: As soon as Texans went down and scored. You said, uh, seven, 322 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: nothing feels like a big deficity. It shouldn't feel like 323 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: that big of a deficit against that team yesterday. 324 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: Well, here's why we're left to psychoanalyze, because they had 325 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: a bad week of practice by their own admission, before 326 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: the World Champs came in at the home opener, had lost. 327 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: Then by all accounts, they had a good week of 328 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: practice getting ready for a Texans team that we've just illustrated. 329 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: It's new, it's young, and it's injured, and they lost. 330 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: I'd explained it, right, I mean, how do you explain 331 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: some of those plays? And that's why we're left to say, Hey, 332 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: what's going on up here. 333 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna do our best to do just that. We'll 334 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: be back after the break to go over the tape 335 00:15:51,520 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: what went down on Sunday. Move the Freight, Move the Freight, 336 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: Magell and Transport vote in the coolest office space in Jacksonville. 337 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: You can apply online at www dot Magellanlogistics dot com. 338 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Last year's gone, Last year's done. There's a great, great season, 339 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: there's a great ending, great run that we went on. 340 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: But one, we want to accomplish more there. We feel 341 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: like there's a lot more for us. And two, this 342 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: is a different team. This is a different season. Obviously 343 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: hasn't started the way we wanted. And I think that's 344 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: one thing is we can't expect to We can't expect 345 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: the ball to just bounce our way every game. We 346 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: can't put ourselves in seventeen point holes and expect that 347 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: we're just gonna figure it out, because it's it's hard 348 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: in this league and you're not gonna be able to 349 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: do it every week. And of course that we believe it, 350 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: and halftime, you know we're in there seventeen nothing and 351 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: we got no doubt we're gonna go win this game. 352 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna find a way. And we started off good 353 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: and then ended up obviously not playing well. But it's 354 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: just it's not feasible to do that every week, and 355 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: we gotta we can't wait until our backs against the 356 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: wall to make a play. 357 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Jags, Trevor addressing something up in Ingram 358 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: said in the locker room, which was this ain't last year. 359 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: Were don't bring that up again. This is not that team. 360 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: And I think after what we saw on Sunday, that's 361 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: pretty clear. Yes, all right, we're gonna go over the 362 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: video now, so we'll start off with that Ridley drop 363 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: in early on in the game, and it was it 364 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: really did John. I know you've said it a couple 365 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: times at this point, but just why was there so 366 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: much focus on just trying to get out that early 367 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: and then when it didn't work out that one possession, 368 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: it was like things just went off after that. 369 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 5: Well why I wish I knew, but that's what it 370 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: felt like. 371 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 4: You had a bad week offensively the week before three 372 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 4: field goals, he hadn't scored, so again it felt like 373 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 4: it was almost, okay, let's put that behind us. 374 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 5: And then when you didn't put it behind. 375 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: You, you sort of compounded it by giving up a 376 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 4: quick drive. So now you're seven to nothing. And I 377 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 4: always go back, I never played baseball at a high level. 378 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 4: But when you're in the World Series and you're down 379 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: two games, no, everybody's trying to hit a home run. 380 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 4: Sure swaying for the fence. That's what it has felt 381 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 4: like a little bit. Maybe they would say they weren't pressing. 382 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: They pressed the week before, and it felt after that 383 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: it was the same game in the first half, So 384 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 4: I would sort of assume that some of the things 385 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 4: that some of the same things were going on in 386 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: terms of that pressing. 387 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 5: That's what it sure looked like after the Ridley play 388 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: in the first half. 389 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: Well, since I'm doing my best Freezer Ukraine impression these 390 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: days and trying to psychoanalyze this team, I do believe 391 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: that if he catches that ball and they score and 392 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: go up seven to nothing on their first drive, totally 393 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: different time, totally game right that right there was the 394 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: moment that I went oh, and I think it's the 395 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: moment they went oh. And they couldn't turn it around. 396 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 5: Because we disagree with you. 397 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 4: But in the nineteen forty NFL Championship, this was when 398 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 4: I was born, Kink, the Bears won seventy three nothing. 399 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 4: Sammy both throws a pass early who was a quarterback 400 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: of Washington at the time. There's a pass early gets 401 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: lost in the sun. I think was Cliff Battles drops it. 402 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: They asked Sammy about after the game had been different. 403 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, it would have been seventy three cents. 404 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 7: Well, right, okay, but that's a little bit different than 405 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 7: this scenario. But I way to stick it to the 406 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 7: people who are watching, who might be Broncos fans today, 407 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 7: that's the highest scoring game in the NFL history. 408 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: Broncos fans, they know, they're familiar with McManus, who had 409 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 2: some issues in Denver and we was brought in here 410 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: as a veteran kicker, but he had some issues. On Sunday, 411 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: missed that field goal after the Ridley drop and then 412 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: he had his other field goal attempt blocked. And I 413 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: think for Doug talked a lot about bringing that veteran presence, 414 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: the point of it being so that you don't feel 415 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: you have to go for it and fourth down you're not. 416 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: You can rely on the special teams, and it's not 417 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: a great way to start. 418 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: I didn't think that the lack of confidence or the yips, 419 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: if you want to use a golf reference extended to 420 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: special teams. I figured three nothing or yeah, three nothing 421 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: at that point. All right, got some points, let's go. 422 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: I do think John you mentioned that they've been in 423 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: the Chiefs and Texans territory what nine times, and had 424 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: six points to show for it. 425 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 5: But that's in the first half. I didn't want to 426 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 5: count the second half because that was okay. 427 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: How can this offense, you know, knowing what's there from 428 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: a talent standpoint, how can they cross the midfield and 429 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: have any confidence right now? They They need something good 430 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: to happen, this being one of them. If they could 431 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: have gotten miss field and obviously that's not McManus's fault 432 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: that it got blocked, but it was his fault that 433 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: he missed that first one and didn't help his team. 434 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: We do want to talk about that one chance. The 435 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: first score of the game was set up by a 436 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: PI penalty because we thought it was going to continue 437 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: to go that way because Calvin wasn naven all cup 438 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: up with that ball in the end zone. There was 439 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: pass interference on that call, and then it ended up 440 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: being a one yard run in from there. But it 441 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: almost felt like that was going to happen again. Because 442 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: penalties can bail you out at times, and that's what 443 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: that was. And fortunately they were able to get a 444 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: score out of that, but then they just couldn't build 445 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: off of it. Wasn't a drive where you felt like 446 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: you earned it and you built off of it. It 447 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: was kind of like, oh, well we got points, but 448 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: we don't have any confidence coming off of it. 449 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: Well, I was I think a lot of people were 450 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: probably thinking about that Chargers Wild Card game with the 451 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: Jags trilled twenty seven to seven at the end of 452 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: the half, and I was interested, anxious to see how 453 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: they would come out and answer, and I was not surprised. 454 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 3: They went down the field and got that touchdown with 455 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 3: the help of the penalty. I thought Doug had those guys, 456 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 3: you know, ready to come out, you know, and they 457 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: scored ten quick points yep, right, But then another phase 458 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: of the game lets them down, whether it was defense 459 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: or special teams, you know, Christian Kirk gets his touchdown, 460 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: and then they give up the Tank Dell touchdown. I 461 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: mean just every time it seemed like something good was 462 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: going to happen, something bad happened. 463 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been interesting, you know, and if 464 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 4: if had they not given up that kickoff return. Yeah, 465 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: the defense had played okay. On that first drive of 466 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: the second half, there was a drop that gave him 467 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 4: the first down to beget. 468 00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: Off the field. 469 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: It felt, frankly, a lot like the four or five 470 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: games at the end of the last season around here 471 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: where they came back and you're standing in the locker 472 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 4: room saying, well, you know, I don't know that even 473 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: with the win, it had been a great feeling because 474 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: there was so much that had gone weird, But it. 475 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 5: Felt like one of those games. 476 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 4: But I think I think Trevor said it best. When 477 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 4: you're down seventeen, the problem is one thing goes against you, 478 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: and now you're back down in the hole. 479 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 5: You give yourself no margin for air. 480 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: And I wrote and thought a lot after last season 481 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: about this team needed to get out of those situations 482 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 4: where they had no margin for air because you can 483 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 4: only live on that ledge so long, and right now 484 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: they're on the wrong end of the ledge. 485 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 3: If you will, you said more than one yesterday, Yeah, 486 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: they got to get out of their own way. 487 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that kick, because that was one of 488 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: the weirdest things I've ever seen. The ball bounces around, 489 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: fullback gets it in his hands and then. 490 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: A twitter and fifty five pounds fullback. Are you kidding me? 491 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: John? Is that just something where when that goes wrong 492 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: right there, when they're just see the ball on the ground, 493 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: does everybody is it discipline? Do you need to stay 494 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: where you are? 495 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 5: Is it just like discipline? And it's hot? I think 496 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: I had not talk to Heath fall Off the game 497 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 5: about it, but. 498 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: Your instinct, I would think as a player takes over 499 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: when the ball is on the ground, Hey aere, we 500 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: go get the ball and then he picks it up 501 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: and he's he's sort of around one guy and everybody 502 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: else has bad angles. 503 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 5: You then had the kicker. 504 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: Trying to be a little bit the last line of 505 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: defense probably didn't take a great angle. But when you're 506 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: depending on the kicker, that's it. It's not good at 507 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: the point you're in trouble. And then and then Durnest 508 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: I can't quite catch it. I think it was a 509 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: bunch of little circumstances conspiring. 510 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 5: To create a really weird play. 511 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 4: Again, as I said earlier, I sort of get why 512 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: it happens, because you have the fumble and that sort 513 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: of takes everybody here, and then he bounces out here, 514 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 4: I texted. 515 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: I texted with a former Jaguars special teams coordinator who's 516 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 3: a buddy of mine. Last night. We were going back 517 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: and forth and I asked him if he had to 518 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: watch the play, and he said, yeah, tough deal. You know, 519 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: lost containment on the outside. There's two guys who were 520 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: supposed to be responsible for that, but so many guys, 521 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: you know, ran and went after the ball. And you 522 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: see Jacob Harris just out of control, run right by. 523 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: He could have broken down and made the tackle and 524 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: he ran right by the return man. Just I mean, 525 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 3: what now you see him retrace his steps, but he's 526 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: too far behind at that point. It was it was 527 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: a momentary lapse of reason. Right everybody saw that ball 528 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 3: hit the ground. It was like blank, go get it. 529 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: But you're sort of coached from the time you're five 530 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: years old, ball out, ball out, and then you're going 531 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 4: after it. 532 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: So it's but some guys are coached to go and 533 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: maintain discipline and stay where you are. It's called containment. 534 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: And the coach I was texting with last night said, 535 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: tough deal. You know, that's gonna be a hard one 536 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: for Heath to explain, but it's easy to see what happened. 537 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: We'll go on to that after to Christian Kirk's touchdown, 538 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: because at this point, all right, you're like, we are 539 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: running out of time and they're going to do something. 540 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: They go down the field old stand by Trevor to 541 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: Kirk get a touchdown. I can't remember score at this point, 542 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: but it was seven seventeen. You were then ten again. 543 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: It's within reach again, and. 544 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 5: With ten minutes left to plays, love. 545 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: To play well within reach with if you're gonna be 546 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: hustle after that, and then to immediately after this, give 547 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: you a give yourself a little bit of hope, and 548 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: then immediately switch over to the Tank Dell touchdown after that, 549 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: it was it was a tough sequence there. 550 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: Well, at this point again John was talking earlier about 551 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: you kind of feel like it's, you know, last year's Jaguars, 552 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: you know, the Texans all of a sudden showing some 553 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: vulnerabilities in the secondary that's missing a couple of key players, 554 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: and you. 555 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 5: Feel good about it. 556 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: And then here on third down, Tank Dell is wide open. 557 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: It looked to me like Darius Williams made the wrong move. 558 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: I mean, Trey Herndon was in that one of those 559 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: two guys blew the coverage and Tank Dell it couldn't 560 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: get any easier. The rookie must just think that this 561 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: NFL game is easy because yesterday catch for sure. 562 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: When you when you look at this, it's is it 563 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: mental lapses here as well or is it just that 564 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: a coverage score? 565 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: Well that's look, I mean, it could be both. But 566 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: that's where you start second guessing and trying to make 567 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: a play, or you're not paying attention because you're so 568 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: focused on it's thirty three, right. That's where the anxiety 569 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: factor comes in. And guys, you know, they longtime coaches 570 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: believe that if you have guys who get anxious and 571 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: key moments, they can't function at a high level. So 572 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 3: here you've got some anxiety on the part of one 573 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 3: of those two players, perhaps, and they melt down and 574 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: forget the responsibility and both go after the guy in 575 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: the flat and Tank Dell runs by himself. And that's 576 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 3: Tank Dell who beats you for forty eight yards in 577 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: the first half. You would think you would somebody would 578 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: look and say, hey, I got him, Yeah, but they didn't. 579 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. It seemed more communication than anything. 580 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, not communicating because they're not thinking as clearly as 581 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: you'd like them too. 582 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: All right, stay with us here on jag Zam. Coming up, 583 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: we got some hot takes and they may be a 584 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: little bit hotter than usual this week, so we'll see 585 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: after the break. Sign up your furry friend for Jaguars 586 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: Official Four Legged Fan Club four Pets presented by Forever 587 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 2: Bets Animal Hospital. Your pet will receive access to exclusive merchandise, 588 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: events and sweepstakes throughout the twenty twenty three season. 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And 597 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 6: you know, we've just got to focus one. 598 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: Day at a time. 599 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 6: We got to get better each day and can't worry 600 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 6: about next week or the week after, can't worry about 601 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 6: the London trip coming up. We can't, you know, we 602 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 6: just got to focus in on on the week at hand. 603 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 6: And and you know that that that part it starts 604 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 6: with me and making sure that the guys are you know, 605 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 6: hearing that message. You know, allowed them to clear for me, 606 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 6: and we'll make sure that they get that message. 607 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: I cannot rely on the past, and last year's team 608 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: is not this year's team. Welcome back to Jags am 609 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: in the Hundai Studios presented by Carshield. Today, we're going 610 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: to get to our hot takes because things are not 611 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: where we expected them to be. So, Brian, what's your 612 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: hot talk? Now? 613 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to the past because it 614 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: looks to me like this team is relying offensively way 615 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: too much on Calvin Ridley, and I would like to 616 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: see them go back to what was working for them 617 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: last year, which was Christian Kirk Evan Ingram. I know 618 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: Zay Jones is injured. He could be back this week, 619 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: likely against the Bills. Put Calvin Ridley, if you have to, 620 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: into Zay Jones' role, but it just my sense is 621 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: they are forcing the ball to him. He's there, eleven 622 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: million dollar guy, he's done that game breaking guy. It 623 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 3: didn't work and he had a tremendous first half against 624 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: the Colts, and then since then it's been disappointed and 625 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 3: maybe he's not ready for it yet, and maybe they 626 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: were all just assuming, well, he was so good in 627 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: training camp and so good in the preseason that he'll 628 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: just jump right into it. Maybe he needs more time 629 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: to be ready to go after being off for more 630 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: than a year and a half. I say put him 631 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: on the side, right, make him your second or third option, 632 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: not your first, and take the offense back to where 633 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: Trevor was clearly comfortable last year and everything seemed to 634 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: work better. It just feels to me like they're forcing 635 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: that issue because they've got him, and that if you 636 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: want to get this offense, which right now you could 637 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: call jumpy, skittish, discombobulated, choose your adjective. Calm everything down, 638 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: do what you know. Works to me, that's Christian Kirk 639 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: and Evan Ingram in zig jumps. 640 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny. 641 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: I thought they maybe tried to calm it down a 642 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: little bit. I said earlier. The way they were running, yeah, 643 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: is usually the formula forgetting things calm, And that's what 644 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: was sort of weird. I went back and watched the 645 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 4: game this morning, and it was a weird imbalance to 646 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: that where hey, we could run they six seven yards 647 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: on first down and usually that's where you, hey, hey, 648 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: get things going. 649 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 5: I agree with Calvin. 650 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's as much rust as much 651 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 4: as just this incredible desire to do it right, which 652 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 4: maybe that's russ I don't know, but I think he 653 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: wants so much to excel and so much to succeed 654 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 4: and feels like he can and you just you know, 655 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: but I don't. I don't disagree. Something along the lines 656 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: of getting the Christian back to where he's sort of 657 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: the guy. Uh maybe an element of that. 658 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: Well, take what worked for you and add to it, 659 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: as opposed to redefine it with Calvin, which is what 660 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: it feels like they have done because we know what 661 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: these other guys are capable of doing. And again, I 662 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: don't know whether it's rust or not either, but it 663 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: does feel like Calvin wants to score on every single 664 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: play and that's just that's not the way this offense works. 665 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: And I do agree the running game should normally bring 666 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: everything back down to earth a little bit, but this 667 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: is a past first team, So from a passing perspective, 668 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: I think Kirk and Grimmer the. 669 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: Way to go, and it's about setting the offense up to 670 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: be successful and Calvin up to be successful because he 671 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: is that deep threat. He's dropping balls for some of 672 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: these catches, but he's always double covered, so somebody else 673 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: has to be open at this point. And yes, we 674 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: do expect war from him because we know he's physically 675 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: able to make crazy catches in that situation, but he 676 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: should be more wide open when we're throwing to him, 677 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: especially when he's in a new offense like Trevor and 678 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: those guys have been here, Calvin has not. So yes, 679 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: we know he can do crazy things, but this is, 680 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: you know, a couple games into a new regime. 681 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: And then there's also the added value of the offensive 682 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 3: line is not giving him time. And there was Christian 683 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: Kirk wide open right on a third down in the 684 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: third quarter and he didn't have time to deliver it 685 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: because Sheldon Rankins was bearing down on him. So Kurt 686 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: Hinnisch was he mistake? Who? Kurt Hinnisch looked like Howie 687 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: Long yesterday? 688 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: Oh, there's lots of things going on. His mom's gonna 689 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: call you know you can, John, what's your hot take for? 690 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 5: You don't want to turn which with Sunday is in 691 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 5: and it's a little worrisome. 692 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: Week three is starting to get to that point in 693 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: the season where teams have game planned you it can 694 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: be sort of what is coming up? And this felt 695 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 4: like a game in a lot of ways where it 696 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: was a wheels off game. I don't think that's what 697 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 4: that is for this team, I believe, particularly because of 698 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: Doug Peterson. He has been so good in his career 699 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: even when teams go through a bad stretch. Think about Philly. 700 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: I mean his last two playoff appearances in Philly, they 701 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 4: fought and scratched and clawed their way through the NFCS 702 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: and made the playoffs last year. 703 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 5: Very similar. 704 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: He knows how to coach in this situation where things 705 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 4: are sort of going squirrely and I think there's too 706 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: much I hate saying this, too much talent for that 707 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 4: to happen. But it is a game that felt like 708 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 4: if things go off the rails, you look back and go, Okay, 709 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 4: there it was. 710 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 5: I don't think that's what it was. 711 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: But they have to really focus now to not have 712 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 4: that be that game. 713 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: Hey, look, you can go and find championship caliber teams. 714 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: Tom Coughlin's first Giants Super Bowl team, where there was 715 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: some infighting and things weren't feeling good and they turned 716 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: it around, made the playoffs as a wild card, and 717 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl. Great teams have had difficult moments 718 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: like this. We have yet to see whether that will 719 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: happen here. But you have faith in Doug Peterson because 720 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: he's been here before that he can get this thing 721 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: turned around, and faith in the quarterback because you know 722 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: what he's capable of doing. It's just I think people 723 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: are anxious about it because, like I thought this was 724 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: supposed to be different. We all thought this was supposed. 725 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: It's fair to be Doug said yesterday, this is gonna 726 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 5: be criticism, and it's. 727 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: Fair sometimes you know, the triumph is on the other 728 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 3: side of the university. Sure, and hopefully that's the case here. 729 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: Is that we look back at this and go, do 730 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: you remember when we thought this thing was coming apart 731 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: and the wheels were falling off and they turned it around. 732 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: We'll see for me, this is when culture comes into key, right, 733 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: Culture and character. You talk about culture. It's easy culture 734 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: when you're winning and things are on the upside. But 735 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: when you know things get hard, you're gonna see the 736 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: true character of people. And I think we all have 737 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: faith about this building. The culture is real and I 738 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: think they will be able to turn it around, but 739 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: it's a very telling if they can't, because you think 740 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: you building a good culture and things don't go the 741 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: way you want, and then oh maybe I don't have 742 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: the same kind of culture character as I did beforehand, 743 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 2: So that will be a big deal. My hot take 744 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: is about the physicality of this football team. I don't 745 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: think they've been tough enough. And I think that goes 746 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: mentally and physically, but physically, I just wanna see them 747 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 2: hit some people right the travisy Tan and Tank are 748 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: probably the only people I say think are as physical 749 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 2: as they need to be right now. The defense has 750 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: been playing above caliber, but yesterday they just didn't do 751 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: what they needed to do. And that goes to the 752 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: offensive line as well. We know that's an issue for 753 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: this team. They need to be tougher. They need to 754 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: protect Trevor and I think the wide receivers as well, everybody, 755 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: no one's exempt. The coaching as well. They need to 756 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: figure out a way to toughen them up. And I 757 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: don't know how you do that. If it's if it's 758 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: if it's I think it's within them. But is is 759 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: that something physical that needs to change. Is it a 760 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: mentality for this team? Is in football? Can it come 761 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 2: down to just being not tough enough fit points? 762 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: I think to me, just to take a derivative of 763 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: what you're saying, is it's a mental toughness issue. You know, 764 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: when you get into the third quarter and all right, 765 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: you know, now you're only down you know, seventeen ten, 766 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: you know, that's when you have to sharpen up. That's 767 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: when every little detail matters. And you can't have a 768 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: five yard penalty that takes third and one to third 769 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: and six. You can't have a drop pass, you can't 770 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 3: have mistackles, and they did not do a good job 771 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: in key situations. In fact, the specific situation was on 772 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 3: that seven yard run that set up the third down 773 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: and three play. They had Damon here's at the goal line. 774 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 3: They had them a yard behind, and they let him 775 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 3: squirt through for six yards on first down. You can't 776 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: have that. That's where the toughness issue comes in. And 777 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 3: you can go, well, that's physical toughness because the act 778 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 3: of getting him on the ground, but it's also a 779 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: mental toughness and rallying to the ball and pulling, bite 780 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: and scratching whatever it takes to get that guy on 781 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 3: the ground for a short game, not to set up 782 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 3: that big deep shot. 783 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't see. 784 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: I thought the running early to me showed more quote 785 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 4: toughness on the offensive line. 786 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 5: Maybe we'd seen. 787 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 4: I always hesitate to question physical toughness because it's you know, 788 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 4: it's such a physical game that I think most guys 789 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 4: are tough, and I think that's the I go with 790 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 4: more the Maybe it is mental toughness in the big moments, 791 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 4: just that that inability to make the. 792 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 5: Big play when it matters. It's what the league's about. 793 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 4: And when you're playing like they are right now, then 794 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 4: you're not doing that in those moments. 795 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: Well, we all know athletes, no matter the sport, right 796 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: who in the biggest moment rise to the occasion. And 797 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 3: that's not every athlete is that way. You need a 798 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: couple of guys who are that way, and that's what 799 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 3: this team needs to get through that mentality of oh, 800 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: this is when it's tough, Well let's go. This is 801 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: what we're paying for, right. 802 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: Have to thrive in the moments when if things are 803 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: the hardest. All right, stay with us. We'll preview the 804 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: rest of this week coming up after the break Man 805 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: Jags fans. If you want customized Jaguarsh furniture for your home, 806 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: check out zipchare dot com to browse all customizable options. 807 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 2: Zip Chair is furniture for fans. Want to take a 808 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: moment now to thank Jea's frontline teams for the critical 809 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: services they provide to this community. Today we like to 810 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: recognize Jee's frontline team and the game winners and give 811 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: a special shout out to Jea's commercial accounts team. I 812 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: feel a little bit differently about how the Jags should 813 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: address things this week. I think last week I was like, 814 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: all right, watch the film, but move on quickly. I 815 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: feel this week they really need to sit in it, 816 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: marinate in it, feel what this is, and figure out 817 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 2: how to fix it and start over, because you can't 818 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: just continue on the way things are going right now. 819 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 3: I wish they had the plane ride today, right, Yeah, 820 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: I mean eight hours sitting on a plane with nothing 821 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: to do and still within that twenty four hour rule, right, 822 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: because you want guys to let it go. I don't 823 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: think they're gonna be able let it go. I mean, 824 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 3: I think they can talk about moving on as much 825 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 3: as you want, but I think everybody individually is going 826 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 3: to be questioning themselves to some degree, what can I 827 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 3: do better? How do I do my job better this week? 828 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 829 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 4: I think Trevor sort of defined it in his post game. 830 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 4: He went back to the theme a couple of times, saying, 831 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 4: you know, we're to the point where it's not okay, 832 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 4: And I think that was more of a message maybe 833 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: to himself, maybe to everybody that, look, we keep talking about. 834 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 5: Playing big in these moments. At some point you got 835 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 5: to do it. 836 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 4: And it's it's not okay to be the one guy 837 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 4: out of the eleven who comes off the field and 838 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: says my bad. And that's sort of a juvenile way 839 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 4: of saying it. But you know, it's not hey, we 840 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: need all eleven now, guys, it's we're one and two 841 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 4: and this wasn't good enough. 842 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 5: Until they show they're not. This is what they are. 843 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 5: So let's go to London. 844 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: This is ah we w we are heading to London 845 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 2: later this week. This is certainly gonna be a defining game, 846 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 2: and it's up to them whether it's a defining moment 847 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 2: that they turn around or a defining moment and they 848 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: continue on this way. We'll go over things some more 849 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: on Wednesday here on jags Amne. We'll see you then.