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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Richard Truman Podcast. I got my guy,

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Speaker 1: Mitch Eisenstein. Oh, Zach Wilson, Richard, let's just let's just

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Speaker 1: ad playmakers, you know what I mean, Like if you

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Speaker 1: add Christian McCaffrey, he's made He's given Jimmy G a

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Speaker 1: safety blanket that the Kittle has been a safety blanket

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Speaker 1: of sorts, but it's a different kind of safety blanket

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Speaker 1: when you're just like, hey, I'm gonna through it to

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Speaker 1: you four yards in the backfield on swing route and

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna give me six and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be in a manageable situation next down if I'd have

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Speaker 1: nothing else. And he's using him weekend and week out.

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Speaker 1: Every week you see him six receptions, seven receptions, like

432
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Speaker 1: it's checkdown, it's it's will routes, it's angle routes. And

433
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Speaker 1: then hey, you want to double team him, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: throw it to Brandon I you uh on on the

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Speaker 1: return route in the end zone. Like they have so

436
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Speaker 1: many weapons and they're using them well. And Kittle has

437
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Speaker 1: finally had a nice breakout game. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's because they were in Mexico. I don't know it's

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Speaker 1: it's because he he said, Hey, I'm happy, I'm not upset,

440
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Speaker 1: but I would like more than two targets game. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get upset. I'm not gonna ruffle frasers

442
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: or make waves, but hey, would be nice to get

443
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Speaker 1: the ball from time time. I can do it now

444
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: and he did, He can do it, And I don't

445
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Speaker 1: know where they would be with trade lance. I don't

446
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 1: because we just haven't seen enough of trade lance. Um

447
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: we next year, we'll see, Richard. I'm gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: a tough question, and one that's probably gonna piss off

449
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Speaker 1: one fan base and make another one thrilled. But nonetheless

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Speaker 1: I need an answer from you. Pete Carroll and Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan both call you today and say, Richard, come make

452
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Speaker 1: this final run with us to the playoffs. Which team

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Speaker 1: are you gonna be suiting up for that gives you

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Speaker 1: a better opportunity to get that second Super Bowl trophy? Man,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. I ain't suited up for nobody

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Speaker 1: right now. Um, but if you had to suit up,

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Speaker 1: rich and this is a hypothetical, I'm not telling you

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Speaker 1: you gotta, I'm just telling you if you had to

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Speaker 1: hic hypothetical, rich well, probably San Francisco because because right

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Speaker 1: now Seattle doesn't need Seattle has a rookie who's leading

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Speaker 1: the league in our second in the league and interceptions. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, and I'm not talking about the thriller. Michael

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Speaker 1: Jackson is playing good football. Uh. San Francisco, on the

464
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Speaker 1: other hand, is really beat up at the corner spot.

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Speaker 1: They really banged up. Um. You know, they lost two starters.

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Speaker 1: They lost for Rett for the season before he even

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Speaker 1: got out there. They lost e Man. You know, I'd

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Speaker 1: be able to make more of impact there. Obviously chur

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Speaker 1: Various Ward is still playing really good football. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the I think they'd be in more need

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Speaker 1: of my talents than uh than Seattle Seahawks at this

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Speaker 1: very moment. Let's move over the Seahawks. They're coming off

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Speaker 1: a bye week. Six and four is an organization. This

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Speaker 1: is uh, certainly a better year than we anticipated them having.

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Speaker 1: What what do they need to do to be able

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Speaker 1: to get into the wild card and make some noise?

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Speaker 1: Did they have a shot at the wild card here? Well,

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Speaker 1: they they're there. They got a shot in both. They

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Speaker 1: got a quarterback, Mitchell. That's the hardest thing to have

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Speaker 1: in this league. That's the thing everybody, that's the thing

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Speaker 1: every I though if they didn't have they traded away

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Speaker 1: their franchise, their quarterback there all this, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: picking in the top five. They're not gonna have well,

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Speaker 1: they're picking in the top five for a whole different

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Speaker 1: reason right now. That's a story for a different day.

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Speaker 1: But um, but I think I think they got a chance. Man.

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Speaker 1: I think they got a good running game. Their offensive

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Speaker 1: line is playing well, their defense has shown a resurgence

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season. They're gonna come out

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Speaker 1: of this by re energize the perfect time. Uh. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they wish they could have found a way they

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Speaker 1: will get that game in Germany. But that's a hard situation,

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Speaker 1: a hard team, a tough team to run the ball on.

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Speaker 1: You know, Vida Vy and the boys are not just

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Speaker 1: gonna let you. You know, they're not just gonna let

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Speaker 1: you run the football. That's the Todd Bowls team, Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowls well coached defense, great defensive line. But I think

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Speaker 1: they got a chance going forward. I think they they

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Speaker 1: have the team that they need to have. Um, they

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Speaker 1: have the playmakers on the outside. Offensively, we'll see, let's

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Speaker 1: see what it looks like. We've got Thanksgiving on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: I know you played in the Things Giving game throughout

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Speaker 1: your career. What are your thoughts on Thanksgiving games? Did

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Speaker 1: you enjoy playing in them? And mental? No, no, I

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Speaker 1: only played and they only played one but one. Yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy it. Um. I played well, I got

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Speaker 1: played the game and got some interceptions and had good

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Speaker 1: turkey at the end of it. Yeah, But but no,

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Speaker 1: I would rather been at the house, um eating turkey. Um.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you're like, hey, cool,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Now, if that was a

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Speaker 1: home game, it had been fine. I would have been like, Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: get to go home eat poll But then you know,

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Speaker 1: you get there next day eating cold leftovers. You're like,

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Speaker 1: it's not the same. Buffalo gets to spend a whole

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Speaker 1: week in Detroit after getting snowed out of Buffalo, and

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Speaker 1: they're going into a game against my hometown Red hot Lines.

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Speaker 1: I never thought I would see this in my life,

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Speaker 1: but the Detroit Lions have won three consecutive games. Rich.

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Speaker 1: I I don't know the statistics on the one the

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Speaker 1: last time this happened, but I'd argue that it probably

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened in my lifetime. The Lions are four and six.

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Speaker 1: The NFC is kind of up for grabs when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the wild card. I mean the Giants. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but this week if any week proved that they were

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Speaker 1: a fraud. You get beat by at home by two scores,

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Speaker 1: by the lowly Detroit Lions, and now they go against

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Give me your game breakdown. I just

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Speaker 1: want to go through these real quick. Is there any

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Speaker 1: Is there any prayer for the Detroit Lions at home

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Speaker 1: against the ever mighty Buffalo Bills. Mitchell I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I want to give him a chance. I want to

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Speaker 1: have hope for mitchell I. I you know I Detroit.

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Speaker 1: You know I wear my hat for this occasion. I

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Speaker 1: see that. I see that, Metell. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: steal your hope. I do not want to steal it.

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Speaker 1: But I just they're just a hard team to figure

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Speaker 1: out because every week you're like, what is going on?

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Speaker 1: You know, Jared Golf can play and throw for you know,

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Speaker 1: three yards, and you're like, there it is Jared Golf

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Speaker 1: And then you look up and he's sting for one

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Speaker 1: and they win and they win Mitchell, they win the game, right,

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Speaker 1: but they do have a favorable schedule going down. They

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Speaker 1: got Buffalo. If Josh Allen doesn't play, there's a chance,

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Speaker 1: you know, they gotta they gotta punchers chance if Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen does not play. But then they got Jacksonville. You

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Speaker 1: know that's the game they go in. So let's call

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Speaker 1: that to potential wins not likely for Bristow game. Um,

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00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: then you got Minnesota, who's also jack You know, Jack

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Speaker 1: on Hid. You don't know which one you're gonna get

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00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: in that game, but Minnesota has played well and can

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Speaker 1: run the ball a little bit more consistent. Then you

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Speaker 1: got the Jets. If Zack Wilson is playing, they got

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Speaker 1: a chance. If Zach Wilson's not playing, they should not

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Speaker 1: have a chance in that game. Tell Robert Sala please

556
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: to keep zaithing. Every every defense a coordinator in the

557
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: league is sitting there, like, yeah, keep Zach Wilson. Like,

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Speaker 1: if Zach Wilson, keep him out there. You gotta let

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Speaker 1: the rookie learn. You gotta learn when in moments like this, Rich,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're six and four fighting for a playoff spot.

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Speaker 1: Please keep them in there, right, that the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: sitting there like keep going, keep Zack Wilson, Za, we

563
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Speaker 1: got to look at the NFC East too. I mean

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Speaker 1: another division and big division game seven and three, seven

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00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: and three Giants and Cowboys. Um, get back game for

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Speaker 1: the Giants. But we just talked about both teams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who do you like in this matchup Dallas of the Giants? Rich, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. You just said that that the Giants

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Speaker 1: just lost to your Detroit Lions, and uh, they're looking

570
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: more fraudish every week now with the way this league is,

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Speaker 1: the Giants will win somehow by two touchdowns and and

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00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: again we'll just nobody would know anything in this league

573
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: is crazy, But um, Dallas Cowboys should win that game

574
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Speaker 1: and put them in a nice position going forward and

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Speaker 1: in control of the wild card spot and needing some help.

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Speaker 1: You know, they would have wished that the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: would have lost to Indianapolis Coats. Then they then they'd

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Speaker 1: kind of have a little bit more control of their destiny.

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Speaker 1: And then I mean, you're coming off a forty to

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Speaker 1: three loss. The Vikings are now playing against the Patriots

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Speaker 1: at home. I don't think there's a team I'd want

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Speaker 1: to play us than the New England Patriots after a

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Speaker 1: forty three one. Now you gotta go against Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: They need a win to the Pats against the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna be an interesting game. And we got

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Speaker 1: three pretty solid Thanksgiving games for once. Holy Kyle, who

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Speaker 1: wins this game? I would think the Minnesota Vikings. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not as high on the New England

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00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: Patriots as some people are. Um. You know, they were

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Speaker 1: just in a dog fight with the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: And again, Jack Wilson didn't if he would have done anything,

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Speaker 1: if he would have just been an average Joe at quarterback,

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00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: the New York Jets would have won that game, walking away,

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00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: running away. Um, but he's not. And so they were

595
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: in a dog fight and lost last second. Special teams played,

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00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: which is crazy. That's like a movie. It's wild. I

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00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: think the Minnesota Vikings find a way to pull that out,

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00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think they got a rebound. They got

599
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: a lot of pride in that room. I think they

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Speaker 1: find a way. Well, Richard, we got a big time guest.

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Speaker 1: I know he's perfect guest right now. Dallas Cowboys legend

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00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: Michael Evan joining you on our next podcast. Talk to

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Speaker 1: me a little bit about Michael Irvine rich Well, what

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Speaker 1: does he mean to you as a player and our

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00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: post career. Well, he's a great friend of mine, you know, great,

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00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: great human being and and top ball of energy, a

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00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: bundle of energy. He's gonna be. He's gonna come high energy, intense,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta be prepared for that. I gotta be

609
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: prepared for that. I gotta give my mind right. Um,

610
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Speaker 1: he's going to love on his Dallas Cowboys and he's

611
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: gonna want a physical brand of football. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be exciting, it's gonna be good. Talk to

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Speaker 1: my boy the playmaker. Yes, Sir Richard, I'll let you

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Speaker 1: sign us off as we wish. All our listeners are

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Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving. Thank you guys as always, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy holidays.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us in this holiday season. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Hit that stuff button if you're new, We'll

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow with Michael Irb The Volume