1 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: All right, what's going on, y'all? 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: What is up? 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: This is another episode. 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: Of the beat Down Podcast. I am your host, senior 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: writer for the Commanders, Zach Selby, And again, like I 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: said last week, we're just gonna have to rip the. 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Band aid off here. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: Commander has lost a tough one to the Seattle Seahawks 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: on Sunday Night Football, thirty eight to fourteen. It was 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: twenty eight to nothing, I think near the end of 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: the first half thirty one to seven. I believe it 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: was at the time of at the half. Tough night, 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: real tough night. There's no other way to say. Jane 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: Daniels gets hurt with the dissocated elbow. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: You have Marshall Lattimore on IR. 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: Out for the year with an ACL injury, McCaffrey brooks collarbone. 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: He is going to be out probably for the rest 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: of the year. 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: We shall see. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: I don't think DQ gave any timetable on his return 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: post that game, but either way, the injuries kiss keep 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: mounting after this team, and they somehow figured have to 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: figure out a way to fix some of their issues 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: and be more competitive. Because I think we can speak 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: for everyone here to say just what happened was just 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: not good enough and the score definitely reflects that. But 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 3: next week they've got another difficult task. Then they played 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions, not on primetime at four to twenty 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 3: five at Northwest Stadium, another tough matchup. Jared Goff Jamiy Gibbs. 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: They're playing like the Lions did as we've come to 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: the expect from the Lions over recent years, like one 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: of the best teams in the conference. And with Marcus 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: Mariota under center for the Commanders, They're just gonna have 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: to figure out a way to win and be competitive. 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: There's just no other way to say it. And how 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: will they do that? Well, we are going to be 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: discussing that today and with me we have first Kenny 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: Waller from Bouie TV Sports. Kenny, how are you this 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: lovely Tuesday afternoon. 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, Zach. Thank you for having me, absolutely. 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: And on the other side of this we have Ethan 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: Cando from Monumental. 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: How you do so for all time? I forgot like 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: for a quick second, like where you work? 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: But you work your mind mate on how you do it? Man? 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 4: I'm doing well, Thanks again for having me. I always 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: have a good time joining the show. Yeah, the monumental 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: NBC Sports Washington. It gets confusing at some times, so 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: I won't I don't blame you. 50 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: Well, it has been several different versions of the over 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 3: the years, so you get your names mixed up. Before 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: we get into this, I should remind all the listeners 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: that we were recording this on Tuesday at one ten pm, 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: so we will not be discussing any potential trades or 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: anything like that because nothing has happened as if yet, 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: although in three hours that could change. 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: And then by the n by the. 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: Time you listen to this, you'll you'll you'll you'll have 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: already heard it, but we won't be discussing it here 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: for obvious reasons, but also regular disclaimer. I will be 61 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: asking these people three questions about the next matchup between 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: the Commanders and the Lions, and I'll be giving up points, wins, losses. 63 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: I'll be deciding who shall cake homb the victory, as 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: I do as the host, but as always, be more 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: cognizant of what these two people have to say, because 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: they are out of practice, they are providing the expertise here, 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: and with all that, we're just gonna get right into it. 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: And you know, I think we kind of have to 69 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: start with the obvious question, right, what are they going 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: to do on offense now that Jade and Daniels is 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: not really in the picture right at least. 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: For a while. 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: And you know, you have Marcus mario to coming in 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: there to be the starting quarterback in his absence, and 75 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: there are other injuries involved in that as well. With 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: Loup being out, you have a thinner wide receiver core 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: than he did. 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: And they kind of have to make a lot of 79 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: chick cantality here. 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: And I think they still have a lot of confidence 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: in Marcus Mariota, but they're going to have to do 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: things a little bit differently, as de Q said in 83 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: his Monday press conference. And Canny will start with you 84 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: and we'll just keep it simple, like what should the 85 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: commander's approach for this offense be now that Jaden is 86 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: going to be out for this unknown time period. 87 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: I really think that, you know, their approach is actually. 88 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 5: One that I've thought, you know, in more recent weeks, 89 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 5: maybe not this past one, but in other recent weeks, 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 5: is whether they should focus It's kind of what's your 91 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 5: most your healthiest, you know, position group on offense and 92 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 5: that's your running backs, the run game, you know, put 93 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 5: more emphasis on the run game and sticking with it, 94 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 5: being more consistent there. They have the running they love 95 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 5: their running back room. They've talked about them since training camp, 96 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 5: you know, running back by committee. I know in recent 97 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: weeks we've seen a lot more of Bill, but I 98 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: think a bit more of that approach of running back 99 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 5: by a committee could help them out. Not sure if 100 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 5: it's going to be, you know, helping it total up 101 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 5: into the win category, but I do think if they 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 5: are protecting the football being efficient there, it also helps 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 5: them with the time of possession. So I think a 104 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 5: bit more focused and just sticking with the run can 105 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 5: can go a long way for this team. 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: I think so too, And on paper that makes a 107 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: lot of sense. And I do agree that it is 108 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: definitely their healthiest position, and it's arguably I think they're 109 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: maybe not even arguably definitely is at this point with 110 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: their injuries, the strongest part of the part of their offense. 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, pitch seven yards against the Seahawks, first 112 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: time that's happened against the Seahawks defense the year since 113 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: Week one, Although of course there were some other factors involved. 114 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: With that with a score and whatnot. 115 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: But I do think there's some other challenges to that 116 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: that I want to get back to you on here 117 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: in a minute. But Ethan, we'll go to you next 118 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: and I'll ask you the same question about what do 119 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: you think their approach should be, and if it's the 120 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: same approach as Candy, maybe expand on how exactly does 121 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: the running game possibly get better? Knowing that all they are, 122 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: all these injuries there wide receiver and defense are kind 123 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: of able to tee off on them a little bit. 124 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Candy kind of took the words out 125 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: of my mouth that I was gonna say. They definitely 126 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: need to lean on the run game a lot more. 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 4: I was just looking at the Lions Vikings box score 128 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: from last week, and I think Aaron Jones had seventy 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: eight rushing yards on just nine carries. 130 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: It's almost nine yards of carry. 131 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: That would getting anything from the run game early and 132 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: often would be huge. 133 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: For the Commanders. 134 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: I mean, just take look at their first drive against Seattle. 135 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: They didn't call one run play. I think it was 136 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: seven straight pass plays. Obviously, Jaden, you have Jayden in 137 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: the lineup, you're not gonna have them this week. 138 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: That changes a lot of things. 139 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: But I think trying to be as balanced as possible 140 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 4: is another way to kind of help keep Detroit's offense 141 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: a little bit or Detroit's defense a little bit on 142 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: their toes. If they know there's gonna be a lot 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 4: of run or a lot of pass or vice versa, 144 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: they can key in and it be a lot easier 145 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: to stop, especially with a backup quarterback. 146 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: And a lot of talent on the outside missing. 147 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: But I think this game, really it's going to be 148 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: a big one for Cliff Kingsbury. I think he has 149 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: to dial up probably his best game of the year, 150 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: keep Detroit's defense kind of guessing as to what's to come, 151 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: and kind of let Marcus loose a little bit too. 152 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any use of trying to protect 153 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: him in terms of calling a safer game plan. I mean, 154 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: you're fighting for your season at this point. I don't 155 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: think anyone in the locker room would say they believe 156 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: the season is over even as they sit in three 157 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: and six, So why not pull out all the tricks 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: in the bag. Let Marcus Mariota kind of do what 159 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: he does best and kind of prove why you did 160 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: make an investment to keep him around for reasons like this, 161 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: So I think we should envision a very big Marcus 162 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: Mariota game this weekend. 163 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me of that scene in water 164 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: Boar when the announcers are like, well, it's last game, 165 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: year man. 166 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: Can't hold anything back. 167 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: Now, although they've got a lot of other games before, 168 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: but like, it's the situation I think is pretty much 169 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: as you described, is a little bit of a dire situation. 170 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: They still have to they have to win some wins 171 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: games to get back into this playoff discussion. But can 172 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: you We'll go back over to you and I mentioned 173 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: the run game and how there are some potential challenges 174 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: that with hoever, with all the receivers being out, with 175 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: Terry being on, you know, being being on sideline for 176 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: you know who knows at this point Luke being out 177 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: and No Brown still being on I R. But this 178 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: is allowed teams to kind of stack the box against 179 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: this against this commander's offense and make it a lot 180 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: harder for for the for the commanders to establish a 181 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: little bit of a ground game. 182 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: So what do you what's your answer to that? 183 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: Because I guarantee you like yes, while the Lions did 184 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: allow some rushing yards last week against the Vikings, like 185 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: they're they're they're gonna they're going to say, Okay, we 186 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: dare you to to pass the ball, or we're we're 187 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: just we're just gonna try to stop you at the 188 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: line of scrimming to make even those to your games 189 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: exponentially more difficult for you. 190 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, and we're definitely seeing that approach of the 191 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: way defenses are stacking the box. Really since the Cowboys 192 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 5: game is when I really started to notice it, Like, 193 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 5: oh my goodness, did other teams start to notice this 194 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 5: after the Cowboys did it? And we know that was 195 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: a struggling defense that was able to be successful in 196 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 5: that regard. So then I'm also looking at the tight ends. 197 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, listen, they're either going to have to 198 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: continue to be that extension of the offensive line or 199 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 5: they're gonna have to be a bit of the action. Right, 200 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 5: They're gonna have to get involved because you know just 201 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 5: I mean, and to Ethan's point, you're gonna have to 202 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 5: see It's it's almost like the things that you need 203 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 5: to do to use your common sensor, just use like 204 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 5: good logic versus like the mad Scientists and really really 205 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: seeing could be creative in these play calls and and 206 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: what they need to do against this line's defense, because 207 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: we already know they're gonna come into Northway Stadium with 208 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 5: revenge already based on what happened in the divisional round, 209 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 5: but they're also going to be ticked off that they 210 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 5: lost a division game at home. I believe they're at home. Yeah, 211 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: They're at home against the Vikings. So I think this 212 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 5: is definitely going to have to be a bit creative. 213 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 5: If the run game can't get going, make them stop it. 214 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 5: If not, you got to look to your tight ends. 215 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 5: And you still have to look to your tight ends 216 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 5: to really help in that blocking effort because we not 217 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: as out of tend. We already kind of know and 218 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: consense they're going to stack the box against this offense. 219 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, and these the tight ends have been a 220 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: common safety ned for for this offense no matter who 221 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: you know or who has been been in a quarterback right, 222 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: whether it's Mario or Jayden. And I think that's going 223 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: to be the case on Sunday. I think they're gonna 224 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: have a lot a lot have a lot of opportunities there. 225 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: But even before we move on, you talked a lot 226 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: about you know, the balance and all that other stuff, 227 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: and I mean that that brings that brings me to 228 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: the receivers here, and we've kind of danced around this 229 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: a little bit more, but like, how do you how 230 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: do you want to create that balance when Terry not 231 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: on IR but out? You have Debo as your option, 232 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: as your primary option, but it seems the teams are 233 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 3: kind of keying on that. 234 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: No, Brown's out, McCaffrey is on IR. Who how do 235 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: you maintain that balance. 236 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: With all these receivers who are kind of going to 237 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: be expected to take on bigger roles and while also 238 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: kind of keeping them involved if if that makes. 239 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: Sense, Yeah, I mean no doubt it's a huge challenge. 240 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: I mean, when you're down, you're number one, your number three, 241 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 4: number four, number five receivers, obviously it's a way bigger 242 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 4: challenge than if you had the deck fully healthy. I 243 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: would say it kind of goes back to my first 244 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 4: point with creativity and offensive play calling. 245 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: I think we should. 246 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: See a lot more guys going in motion. Don't let 247 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 4: guys just be able to press you off the line 248 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: and get slow off your release. And kind of disrupt 249 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 4: the timing of place. I mean, we've seen teams like 250 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: Candy said, stack the box and play man on the outside, 251 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: and the truth of the matters, these Commanders receivers are 252 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: just not getting separation. And we saw that in the 253 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: Seahawks game, saw that the week before as well. 254 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: Against Kansas City. 255 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: These guys aren't getting open and that makes it a 256 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: lot harder. So I'd love to see a lot more 257 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: pre staff movement, maybe a little bit more play action, 258 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: crossing plays, mesh concept, just anything where you can kind 259 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: of get guys in space and maybe let Marcus get 260 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: into a rhythm a little bit more. I'm very intrigued 261 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 4: to see if they can get the ball into Traylon Burks' 262 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: his hands a little bit more. I know he caught 263 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: his first pass on Sunday night. I think he's still 264 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it didn't work out in Tennessee for 265 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: a variety of reasons, but he's still big receiver with 266 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: an athletic profile that this team doesn't have. 267 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: I'd love to see you might as well see what 268 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: you got. It's a desperation spot. 269 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: I mean, it really does suck for the Commanders that 270 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: the lines are coming in like that's probably the worst 271 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: team for them to play right now in terms of revenge. 272 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: They're already upset. 273 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: About the playoffs, like Candy said, and they just lost 274 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: a divisional game, and that Dan Campbell team is great 275 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 4: at responding to adversity. So I hate the spot for 276 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: the Commanders, but I do think there's a plenty they 277 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: can do to kind of keep Detroit on its toes 278 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: and really just keep the ball out of that explosive offense. 279 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: Time of possession I think is key in this game 280 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: as well. 281 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that last point as well. 282 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: I think you're definitely gonna have to figure out a 283 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: way to hold onto the ball for a lot longer 284 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: than what you've been doing over the the last seven 285 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: or eight games or so. We'll move on, but before 286 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: we do, I'll give both of you other points we got. 287 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: I like Kenny's point about the tight end. I like 288 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: Ethan's point about adding in the motion because I think 289 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: either way this is gonna be it's gonna be a 290 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: big Cliff Kingsbury game. 291 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to figure out a way. 292 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: To be in his bag and be a little more creative, 293 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 3: and you know, as I always like creative offenses. I 294 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: think that those are fun, even with challenges of having, 295 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: you know, being down multiple receivers and being out of 296 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: started quarterback and all that other stuff. So that'll be 297 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: fun tied one one heading into the second round, and 298 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: we're gonna flip the field and talk about the defense 299 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: here because Jerry Goff is I mean, maybe you know, 300 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: you normally think about him as just being a highly 301 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: efficient quarterback, but he has been ever since he's been 302 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: with the Lions, right, He's he's been known for just 303 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: putting up these crazy completion percentages and making the most 304 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: out of it out of that offense. And I mean 305 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 3: the key And while there are several there are several 306 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: weapons on this in this Lion's offense, from Gives to 307 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: Jamison Williams to Samuel Porta all these other guys like 308 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: it's it's it comes down to Jerry Goffe. Can you 309 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: get him off his spot a little bit? Because he's 310 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: not a mulbile quarterback. He's not someone who's gonna be 311 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: able to scape the pocket very much. 312 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,479 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a challenge. 313 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: Of course, with the commanders being down three defensive ends 314 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: and and the like, but they're gonna have to figure 315 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: fad a way to do it. 316 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: So Ethan, how how do they do that? 317 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: How the commanders kind of get kind of harassed Jared 318 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: Goff a little bit and get him to make maybe 319 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: some some some bad decisions and create more of these 320 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: turnovers and rest the passer. 321 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think there's a clear recipe. I would 322 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 4: like to see maybe a little bit more blitzing than 323 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: we've seen in games past, but I mean it's a 324 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: lot harder to blitz when he doesn't have full confidence 325 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: on your guys on the back end. And I think 326 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: that's pretty obvious and evident what we've seen with this 327 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: commander's defense over the past few weeks. I've really liked 328 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: what I've seen from Jacob Martin. He's one guy who's 329 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: really stood out to me Von Miller. Should he still 330 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: be here in six days, I think he can still 331 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: get to the quarterback when when he's asked to. So 332 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: I would say, you kind of just need your guys 333 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: to play to their full potential, as simple as that sounds. 334 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: This Lion's offense is one of the best in the 335 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: league for a reason. I mean, they have weapons all 336 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: over the field, two great receivers, two great running backs, 337 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: a really good young tight end. I think it's I mean, 338 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: even last year in the playoffs, like the Commander's defense 339 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: was a lot healthier than it is now and they 340 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: still allowed what thirty one points and created several turnovers. So, 341 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it's going to be 342 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: there's really a recipe in terms of stopping this team. 343 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: More just kind of slowing them and keeping them off 344 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: the field is really the only path sheet for victory 345 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: for the Burgundy and Gold. 346 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems it seems like that, and we'll definitely 347 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: see so Candy, same question, how do they How did 348 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: the Commanders generate a pass rush on Derreck Goff and 349 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: not up in this line's offense but make things a 350 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: little bit more. 351 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: Difficult for them. 352 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, you know, to even make the comment, 353 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: I was thinking, they're gonna have to find a way 354 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: to create turnovers to give offense the ball back. Right. 355 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 5: This team is just nowhere near as healthy as they 356 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 5: were in January, Right, which is crazy to even say 357 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: that because most teams are like, of course they're beat 358 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: up in January. At that point you have to try 359 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 5: their best to really create chaos. You know, there could 360 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: be an opportunity here too with you know, we haven't 361 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 5: seen We've seen a bit more of Jordan McGee, Tyler Owens, 362 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 5: Ali Khoe, But I'm wondering if there's an opportunity here 363 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: to get Cay Modrono involved with his speed and just 364 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: getting to a spot quick quickly, And so I'm anxious 365 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 5: to see what they kind of do at the at 366 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 5: the linebacker position with uh, you know, Marshaun going back 367 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: out at the corner, what do you do from safety? 368 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's everybody's gonna have to be kind 369 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: of like even what they're early, you know, in their 370 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: in their bag and their creative in their creative juices 371 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 5: and spell here because you know, even if the Washington 372 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 5: Commanders do everything right, they could still lose his football 373 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 5: game against a very good Detroit Lions team. So they're 374 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 5: going to have to have minimal mistakes. They're gonna have 375 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 5: to create mistakes for Jared Goff in that offense because 376 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 5: it's almost like the only way to really try to 377 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 5: have a shot is to keep that offense off the field. 378 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 5: We know that Joe Witt Junior is now going to 379 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 5: be on the field for the Commanders, So let's see 380 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 5: if that helps with the communications challenges they've had this season. 381 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 5: But but maybe a bit more, Let's see if Kane 382 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 5: gets on the field from for some defensive snapsis we 383 00:17:59,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: can see what he can do? 384 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sure, I definitely want to ask you more 385 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: about that. But before we do that, I want to 386 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 3: go back to Ethan here, because I mean, you mentioned 387 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: a little you mentioned touched on like the back end 388 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: a little bit, and as we talked about, the secondary 389 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 3: is pretty banged up right now, right with Marshawn, but 390 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: even before. 391 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: That, they've they've had other issues there. 392 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: And I wonder, obviously, if you want to blitz more, 393 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: that's that's all finding good on paper, but you are 394 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: gonna be putting more pressure. 395 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: On those guys. 396 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: And it seems like for right now they've had a 397 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: little bit of trouble covering and man coverage and find 398 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 3: the player. The team's being able to find soft spots 399 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: and zones. So I wonder, like I not ask you 400 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: maybe why what's the solution, but like, how can you 401 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: justify blitzing more when you have a secondary that is 402 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: a little bit banged up? Right now and seems to 403 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: be struggle a little bit allowing exposed to plays. 404 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a fair question. 405 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 4: I would say probably the only way you can justify 406 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: blitzing more is in theory it would allow you to 407 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: get to the quarterback quicker. And if the quarterbacks has 408 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: all day to throw, like Sam Darnold did on Sunday night, 409 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 4: he's gonna find open receivers no matter what I mean. 410 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 4: Man coverage hasn't really worked, zone coverage hasn't really worked. 411 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: Nothing has really worked over the past few weeks. So 412 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: I think at this. 413 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 4: Point you got to kind of try anything different that 414 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: you can to at least give different looks and maybe 415 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: be a little more unpredictable. I mean, it seemed like 416 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: Darnald knew what was coming. He had so much time 417 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: to throw, made the right checks and. 418 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: That's why he was perfect through three quarters. 419 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: Basically, I think moving Mikey Sanders still potentially back outside 420 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: now with Latimore, God could be good. 421 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: He drived there last year. 422 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: I think that's something that's something me personally. I'm gonna 423 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: have my eye on a lot more. And I think 424 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: at some point you got to just kind of trust 425 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 4: these guys on the back ends a little bit more 426 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 4: as well, because if you're not getting home, these guys 427 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: are gonna get a but no matter what, So I 428 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 4: think maybe bring a little bit more pressure, disguise a 429 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: little more pressure. I love the move of Joe Witt 430 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 4: going down to the sideline where he can have direct 431 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: communication with his players in between drives. 432 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: I think that should at least help. 433 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 4: In terms of accountability standpoint, where you can talk to 434 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 4: the guy making all the calls and stuff like that. 435 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 436 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: I think this defense knows they're a very significant reason 437 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: why this team is three and six. As inconsistent as 438 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: the offense has been, the defense has been the real 439 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: real reason this team is struggling right now. So I'm 440 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: expecting a performance a lot closer to the first half 441 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 4: against Kansas City than we saw on Sunday night. The 442 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: real question is whether they can put it together for 443 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 4: a full sixty minutes, which we haven't really seen them 444 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: do all year. 445 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: Very true, very true, And again I think I said 446 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: it last week. I think being able to put together 447 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: a full four quarters has been just symbolical the entire 448 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: team for in a lot of reasons. But yeah, Candy 449 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: before we move on, you mentioned Caman Dronto, and I'm 450 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: definitely intrigued by him for several reasons, both in terms of. 451 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: Like his skill set and his athleticism. 452 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: But kind of expounding that a little bit more and like, 453 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: obviously you'd want him to just you want him to 454 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: go and use his speed to our pastor, but like, 455 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: I mean, do you have a lot of confidence to 456 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: him in coverage and just being able to operate in 457 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 3: the way that you would really want out of Galy, 458 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: Jordan McGee or any other like starting caliber linebackers on 459 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: the manager roster. 460 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm wondering if he's somebody that they could almost 461 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 5: use on the line of scrimmage somehow. I remember way 462 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 5: back in OTA's when I first asked coach JOEA Junior 463 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 5: about came Adrono, and his response was, of course, at 464 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 5: that time in May, he was saying, we're trying to 465 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 5: figure out if he's more like Frankie or like Jeremy 466 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 5: Chen And so I was kind of like, Okay, now, 467 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 5: I'm like, it's November. Hopefully you have an answer to 468 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 5: that too, Yeah, right, Yeah, And so with the different 469 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 5: movement around because Eater's point, I would definitely like, I mean, 470 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 5: Mikey Sanmon still like that's a topic that's kind of 471 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 5: flying low under the radar of this year that he's having. 472 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: It's like, hey man, just put. 473 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 5: Him back outside. Just put him back outside. You know, 474 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: now there's an opportunity to do that. But then it 475 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: becomes a if you know, with folks being out, can 476 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 5: you just take that speed and maybe utilize him more 477 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 5: as a Jeremy chitin protect You know, I don't know 478 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 5: what it is because they were almost. 479 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Like is he a hybrid? 480 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 5: Right? Is could he be speaking of the Seattle Seahawks 481 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 5: way back when remember like the role of that camp Chancellor. 482 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: Played like is he that? 483 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 5: I mean, we don't know, right because we haven't seen him. 484 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 5: But I just remember in training camp there were moments 485 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 5: where it was almost like someone just simply said to him, hey, Caine, 486 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 5: get to the quarterback, and he was like in Jaden's face, 487 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 5: I was like, how fast did he get there? So 488 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 5: that's how I'm just kind of like thinking, how can 489 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 5: they continue to refine the defense in a simplistic way 490 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 5: but still see that speed in order of like actual 491 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: athleticism speed to disrupt the line of scrimmers, disrupt the 492 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 5: quarterback or just make some plays, because that Ethan said. 493 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: Hey, Jared's gonna throw it. He's gonna throw it. 494 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: They gotta they got a pretty mean running back game 495 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: as well, and so maybe Kan can help there just 496 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: getting I wanted to see Kin not to kind of 497 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: go I wanted to I was hoping when he was 498 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 5: active against Atlanta, I was hoping to see him on 499 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 5: some defensive snaps, hopefully just from a speed perspective, just fast, 500 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 5: like get to the get to the running back, you know. 501 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 5: And so that's that actual speed characteristic has been a challenge. 502 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 5: We let's keep that up right with the with the 503 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 5: linebacker position group. So maybe he can he can just 504 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 5: help get to where people need to be to be disruptive. 505 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they want to play fast, they want 506 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: to play with less of the less like, they want 507 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: to play more decisively. And it seems like allowing Kane 508 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 3: to say, hey, go get in Bud, that could possibly 509 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: be a solution there. 510 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: And so we'll move on here to the final question. 511 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: But I will give you guys both points again, because 512 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: all that stuff you had about Caine cany out of 513 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: like Ethan's points, about maybe using mic back on the 514 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: outside again. I think that's very interesting and just bringing pressure. 515 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: I think I think that's definitely something that you're definitely 516 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: gonna need to do. And you're right, I mean, they're 517 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: they're gonna He's they're gonna do what they do no 518 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: matter what. You might as well just go try to 519 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 3: do something. So tied heading into the final round, we 520 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 3: shall go on to the final question here, and it's 521 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: gonna be about practice squad receivers and bring this up 522 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: because with Luke being out now, you're gonna have to 523 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: call up some guys and they've got an interesting little 524 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: group here, right, You've got to Kobe Jones, you got 525 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: to Corey Brooks, who guys are really impressed in training camp. 526 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 3: And then you've got you've got Trailing Burks and he's 527 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: someone who made his first cat it was. 528 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Elevated last week. 529 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: So among that group, which are you kind of which 530 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 3: would you want to see more of as they go 531 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: into this the second half of the season. Definitely without 532 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: a loop, maybe without Noah and some of the other 533 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: guys for a little bit longer. So can you We'll 534 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: start with you there. 535 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's like I'm just sitting here thinking 536 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 5: like if someone would have told us that this was 537 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 5: gonna happen, even like in week five, I probably would 538 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: have called them a hater, Like what sure, Yeah, this 539 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 5: is so unreal. But to answer your question, I'm like, Okay, 540 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: is this like we saw a lot of like Jacory 541 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 5: Brooks right in the training camp and all that, So 542 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 5: it's like, all right, is this ja Cory Brooks time? 543 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: Like what what's going on here? But in terms of 544 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 5: I mean almost because Deebo's dealing with a heel injury, right, 545 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 5: we can we know that. I mean he's still playing, yes, 546 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: but we we know that this injury is still is 547 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 5: still there for him, and with Luke being out, he 548 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: might have to go back helping out of it, you 549 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 5: know with returns, which we saw. 550 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: On Sunday night. 551 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: But I'm thinking, hey, if Trayling Brooks is ready it 552 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: he is, maybe we see a bit more of him. 553 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 5: And we know Jalen Lane has has had some challenges 554 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 5: with protecting the football and catching the football, but you know, 555 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 5: maybe he can help as well. But other other than that, 556 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 5: it's like just you know, Chris Morgan part of the action. 557 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 5: We get your Cory Brooks get going back in here. 558 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 5: It's kind of how gonna have to be all hands 559 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 5: on deck. I know that sounds like crazy, but it's like, 560 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 5: I don't know, Margarets, just throw it to somebody. 561 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: Is who? 562 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 5: But I know ja Cory Brooks was a popular name 563 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 5: during training in camp, and we haven't seen anything in 564 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 5: the game or he hasn't been you know, consistent leave 565 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: him when he was elevated, So maybe that's that's one 566 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 5: of your keys there is to get him involved. 567 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: Possibly that was definitely somebody the fans really wanted to 568 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: see him, possibly even make. 569 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: The active roster in training camp. 570 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: But we'll that's well, he definitely will telling not someone 571 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to keep an eye on this week to 572 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: see how he does just operating here. An individual Bills 573 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 3: ethan same question, which the practice squad receivers would you 574 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: like to see get more of an opportunity going forward? 575 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: I touched on it earlier, but it's got to be 576 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: Burks for me. 577 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: I know he's the newest, the newest edition, and obviously 578 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: that's a lot tougher when the other guys have been 579 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: here since. 580 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: July or perhaps even earlier April. 581 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: But I think he has the highest ceiling of all 582 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: of them, and I think at this point in the year, 583 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 4: with where the commanders are at, they got to find 584 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: guys who can help him, not just now. 585 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: But in the future too. 586 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 587 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 4: I mean there's a reason he was a first round pick. 588 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: Obviously it didn't work out, but I mean the traits 589 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: are there, the skill set is there. I think the 590 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 4: commanders are they believe they can turn him into. 591 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: A productive, impactful player. 592 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 4: So he's a guy that I think the opportunity is 593 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 4: never going to be better than now when the entire 594 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 4: rosters hurt for him to come in and really make 595 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 4: an impact. I know it was only one catch, but 596 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: it was a nice toe tapper on the sideline against Seattle. 597 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: Sure, So he's a. 598 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: Guy I got my eye on and one guy we 599 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: haven't mentioned. 600 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: I believe his back is Robbie Chosen. 601 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 4: Sure in that Dallas game, he looked like the team's 602 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 4: best receiver that day. 603 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 604 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 4: So, I mean in terms of instant impact, he's probably 605 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 4: the guy I think of those four that could make 606 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: an impact on Sunday right away, but I think for now, 607 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: through the rest of the year, Burkes, in my opinion, 608 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 4: is the one who should get the most opportunity of 609 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: the four guys on the practice squad to really make 610 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: an impact. 611 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Burks is definitely one of those big 612 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: lottery tickets right because of the first Rouns day back 613 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two. Could be something has a lot 614 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: of the size and the skills on paper that you 615 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: would want, and there could be something there if you're 616 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: able to develop him and get an off season under him, 617 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: and because he's been dealing with injury to keep them healthy, 618 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: I think there's something there too. 619 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: Man. 620 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: So definitely gonna be tough between you two. Good good 621 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: good rounds both of you guys. And if I could, 622 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: we had this situation last week and I said, I, 623 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: if I did believe in ties, I would give you. 624 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: I would give you both the tie. But I don't, 625 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: so I can't just on principle. So Keny, I hear you. 626 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: On Decory, I think he's definitely he could be something. 627 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: But I think I gotta go with Burkes here with 628 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: with Ethan and the wind is because again I think 629 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: the ceiling for Burks is just it's higher, just I 630 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: think objectively than what it is for to Cory. So Ethan, 631 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna get the win here and heratulations that's it's 632 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: like a it's like a two and a half. 633 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: It's right there. 634 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 3: It was. Both of you guys were just excellent. So 635 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: than any parting words of victory for us. 636 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 4: I think this is my first win in three or 637 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: four appearances on your show. 638 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, and check that out. 639 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: I believe I believe I was due. But Candy made 640 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: some really great points. The Madrono point. 641 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: I hadn't even been. 642 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: Thinking about that, and now that's going to be on 643 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: my radar this week. So uh yeah, it was a 644 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: really good She made probably better points than I did, 645 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: so really fun, really fun round. 646 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And Canny again, great job. Serious, Yeah, no, 647 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: thank you. 648 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 5: I like to have the conversation. It stinks the season 649 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: is going the way that it is. Not. 650 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: None of us would. 651 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 5: Have guessed this at all, but you know, we're. 652 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Just trying to make it work. It would still be 653 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: creative z that. 654 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 5: Thank you so much again for having us. 655 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: Of course, And I will say, you know, I've seen 656 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: this team and I know the odds so for what 657 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: I've looked at, like the points, bread or anything, but 658 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: I would imagine that the Lions are any favorite of 659 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: this game for a variety of reasons. But I will say, 660 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: asking this team pull out wins they shouldn't have won, 661 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: granted this previous regimes, but you never know. You never know, 662 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 3: especially they come up with a phrase any given Sunday 663 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: for a reason, right, And if they beat the Lions, 664 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: then hey, you go into Miami in Spain feeling pretty 665 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: good about yourself. 666 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you beat Miami. 667 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: You go into the bye week five and six, you're 668 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: feeling pretty good about yourself and a potential run to 669 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: get back into that playoff discussion. But for now, we 670 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: shall put a pause on this and he ready for 671 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: next week the game against the Lions. 672 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: And for everyone listening. 673 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 3: You should a rate, your review, subscriber wherever you get 674 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: your podcast. And until next week, this has been they'll 675 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: beat you.