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Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Cuff Daddy Shawncom's arrested by the Feds in a luxe

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Speaker 2: hotel in the dark of night, Now in federal custody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us today.

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Speaker 3: I'm announcing the unsealing of a three count indictment charging

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Speaker 3: Shawn Combs with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking, interstate transportation for prostitution.

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Speaker 3: The indictment alleges that between at least two thousand and

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Speaker 3: eight and the present Comb's abuse threatened and coerce victims

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Speaker 3: to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation, and conceal

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Speaker 3: his conduct. As a legend of the indictment, to carry

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Speaker 3: out this conduct, Shawn Combs led and participated in a

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Speaker 3: racketeering conspiracy that used the business empire he controlled to

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Speaker 3: carry out criminal activity including sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery,

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Speaker 3: and the obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 2: And we have just gotten our hands on the federal indictment.

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Speaker 2: But first let's talk about what went down in the

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Speaker 2: dark of night. Sean Puffy Combs seen out on the

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Speaker 2: street in New York just thirty minutes before Fed's break

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Speaker 2: into his luxury suite at the Park Hyatt Hotel on

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Speaker 2: fifty seventh Street and arrest Combs and proceed to shred

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Speaker 2: that hotel room looking for evidence. Joining me right now

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Speaker 2: at the hotel just outside the Park Hyatt is crimeonline

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Speaker 2: dot Com investigative reporter Angelica Martinez. Angelica, thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us. Tell me what happened right there last night.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Nancy, we are currently outside the high end hotel,

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Speaker 4: the Park Hyatt Hotel, where Sean.

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Speaker 5: Puffy Combs was arrested last night. He was arrested.

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Speaker 4: Following a indictment that was turned by a grand jury

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Speaker 4: on Monday, and that's set in the process to arrest

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Speaker 4: Sean Combe.

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Speaker 2: Guys joining us a Jelica Martinez at the Park Hyatt,

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Speaker 2: we understand that Fed's pursue it to warrant, went into Combs'

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Speaker 2: room right behind you, up on one of the penthouse

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Speaker 2: levels and arrested comes last night. He had no idea

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Speaker 2: it was about to happen. We've also heard reports the

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Speaker 2: arrest was to go down at least forty eight if

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Speaker 2: seventy two hours later, but something triggered the FEDS to

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Speaker 2: make the arrest last night. Comb's actually spotted out on

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Speaker 2: the street and videoed bsing with fans and friends just before,

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Speaker 2: literally minutes before.

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Speaker 1: The FEDS arrested him.

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Speaker 2: I know they were poised outside the park Hyatt Hotel

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Speaker 2: where you're standing right now, Angelica, waiting for him to

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Speaker 2: come back in with eyes on Sean Puffy comes the

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Speaker 2: entire evening, Angelica.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So apparently goociations for shawcom Surrender had been in

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Speaker 4: the talks for a while, and like you said, Nancy,

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Speaker 4: something triggered this arrest. Something happened that caused them to

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Speaker 4: move it from allegedly later in this week to just

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Speaker 4: last night. He was allegedly arrested right in the lobby,

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Speaker 4: and he was not expecting that, according to some.

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Speaker 2: Sources, Angelica, I think I know what may have prompted

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Speaker 2: the early arrest. You know, you're about twenty thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: from Teeterborough private airstrip.

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Speaker 1: Combs has money.

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Speaker 2: You can get on a private plane without a passport

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Speaker 2: now where you can land without one as a whole

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Speaker 2: another can of worms. But if they got win that

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Speaker 2: he was leaving with all of his money and access

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Speaker 2: to private planes, that's the time you make the arrest

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Speaker 2: ahead of time, joining me there at the Park Heyatt

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Speaker 2: Hotel in the heart of Manhattan, Angelica Martinez, let's open

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Speaker 2: it up to the panel and the last few moments,

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Speaker 2: we caught the lawyer, the defense attorney Agna Fellow, and

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Speaker 2: he states his client is going to be released. Do

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Speaker 2: you really believe that Sean Puffy Combs is going to

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Speaker 2: get out on bond?

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Speaker 1: Straight out to high profile.

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Speaker 2: Lawyer Nima Romani, former federal prosecutor, President West Coast Trial

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Speaker 2: Lawyers and author of Harvard to hashtag. He is an

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Speaker 2: expert in federal law. Nima, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Quick question regarding bond. Now we know that Combs was

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Speaker 2: held overnight and he is with the Feds right now.

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Speaker 1: You know his lawyer is.

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Speaker 2: Going to make a big play for him to get

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Speaker 2: out on bond and make a big show, probably walking

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Speaker 2: along Park Avenue maybe Fifth Avenue, wearing his fur coat

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Speaker 2: as if he has a worry in the world. Why

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Speaker 2: do I say that, because when you don't know a horse, Nima,

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Speaker 2: look at his track record that has been his inmost.

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Speaker 1: Since the get go. Hey, you're raiding my house, no problem.

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Speaker 2: I'm out surfing watersports with my family living it up

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Speaker 2: with some champagne.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him.

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Speaker 2: That's his INMO to act like nothing is wrong and

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Speaker 2: give the illusion of complete innocence and care free.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're gonna give him bond?

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Speaker 6: Nancy's really up to the judge. I don't think he

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Speaker 6: deserves bond, because we're talking about some very serious charges, right,

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Speaker 6: and bond is appropriate when an individual is not a

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Speaker 6: risk of flight or a danger to the community, and

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Speaker 6: like you said, he's both. We're talking about someone that's

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Speaker 6: engaged in violence, drug offenses, sex offenses, firearms allegations. There.

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Speaker 6: This is someone who's violent, and of course he is

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Speaker 6: essentially unlimited means and can take off. Now, there's going

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Speaker 6: to be detention hearing, usually within three court days of

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Speaker 6: the first appearance, and a judge is going to have

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Speaker 6: to decide whether there's no condition or combination of conditions

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Speaker 6: that can guarantee Diddy's appearance in court. I think, even

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Speaker 6: though I disagree, if you put a gun to my head,

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Speaker 6: I think he is going to be granted some sort

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Speaker 2: Nima Ramani, if it were anybody but Sean Puffy comes,

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Speaker 2: they would not get bond because.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge federal indictment.

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Speaker 6: You're a FED.

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Speaker 1: I was a FED.

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Speaker 2: You know how long it's taken them to put this

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Speaker 2: thing together. All it takes is one private flight to

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Speaker 1: He's gone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, we've never been able to get Roman

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Speaker 2: Polansky back, and many many others we see ours. Think

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Speaker 2: of Kanye, for Pete's sake, who records in Paris. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't need to be in the US. This indictment shows

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Speaker 2: a vast criminal enterprise. What are we learning. We're learning

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Speaker 2: that there are co conspirators. But I want to tell you,

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Speaker 2: Nima and the rest of the panel, listen to this.

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Speaker 2: In the very beginning and the very first line. For decades,

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Speaker 2: the defendant abused, threatening, coerced women and others around him

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Speaker 2: to fulfill sex desires, protect his reputation, and conceal his conduct.

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Speaker 1: And that is exactly what he's been doing.

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Speaker 2: Straight back out on the street, joining us in front

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Speaker 2: of the park Hyatt Hotel. Crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter

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Speaker 2: Angelica Martinez Angelica as late as last night, thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: before he is arrested by the Feds, he's out like

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have a care in the world, bsing, playing

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Speaker 2: around on the streets with his cohorts. So that's his

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Speaker 2: mo He always has the facade, the veneer of successful

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Speaker 2: in furs and diamonds. But that's the way he portrays himself,

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Speaker 2: and right here in the federal indictment we see that's

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Speaker 2: part of his modus operendi, forcing others to fulfill his

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Speaker 2: sex desires, in other words, raping them while protecting his

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Speaker 2: reputation and concealing his conduct.

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Speaker 1: Angelica.

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Speaker 5: So he did. He definitely has a history of this.

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Speaker 4: If we look back to when his La and Miami

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Speaker 4: homes were rated back in March, he did. He was

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Speaker 4: out living his life in Miami with not a care

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Speaker 4: posing for Instagram lives, and so that's definitely part of

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Speaker 4: the persona he has tried to keep up and has

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Speaker 4: done so successfully for.

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Speaker 5: These past couple of decades. You know, he did.

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Speaker 4: He was the guy you wanted to be around, you

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Speaker 4: wanted to have parties with, get invited to his you know, luxurious,

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Speaker 4: amazing white parties. As we heard from the latest lawsuit

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Speaker 4: from Adria English, who was one of those participants in

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Speaker 4: the White parties. So you know, he spent the night

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Speaker 4: in federal custody, which is quite the contrast from this

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Speaker 4: very luxurious Highatt hotel we have behind me and you know,

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Speaker 4: as you said, in the heart of Manhattan.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, very very interesting stuff going down with he.

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Speaker 2: Did he You know, the indictment is naming cohorts, but

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Speaker 2: who will they end up being. It gives veiled references

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Speaker 2: to security guards, seven other businesses, employees that worked for

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Speaker 2: Comes and enabled him to basically run a sex trafficking enterprise.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? Rico racketeering. It was first reserved

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Speaker 2: for the mob. The mob, This is what it means.

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Speaker 2: Let me break it down, jump in with me, Nima Romani. First,

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Speaker 2: you have a predicate act. That can be a rape,

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Speaker 2: It can be a murder of Chupac Sukure, it can

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Speaker 2: be any number of state crimes. But that predicate acts

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Speaker 2: like the center of a big spider web. And there

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Speaker 2: are other people helping you enlist sex victims to enlist

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Speaker 2: in further your criminal enterprise. That is how the fans

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Speaker 2: are going to bring in other witnesses as defendants and

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Speaker 2: in the end, Ramani, they are going to rap out comes.

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Speaker 1: Agree, disagree?

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Speaker 6: Oh agree? Because when you're dealing with a Rico conspiracy,

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Speaker 6: anyone who participates in the conspiracy, they're on the hook

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Speaker 6: for all the substantive acts and further into the conspiracy.

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Speaker 6: So what does that mean someone called or help to

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Speaker 6: get one of these commercial sex workers and they're raped

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Speaker 6: by force, They're on the hook even if they didn't

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Speaker 6: participate in the rape. So the Feds have a lot

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Speaker 6: of leverage in these reco cases. And like you said,

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Speaker 6: you don't need a whole lot to prove Rico. You

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Speaker 6: don't need a mob or the carteler shriekings, you need

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Speaker 6: a criminal enterprise.

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Speaker 1: Ramone.

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Speaker 2: We just got our hands on this very lengthy federal

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Speaker 2: indemond and you know, the de Feds go, the fans

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Speaker 2: go whole hog. They're not going to charge you one

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Speaker 2: or two counts. I'd like to direct your attention to

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Speaker 2: paragraph twelve A Combs and other members and associates of

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Speaker 2: Comb's enterprise. There's your witnesses right there, wielded power and

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Speaker 2: prestige and would have repeat freak offs. Freak offs, the fez.

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Speaker 2: Their words, not mine. They were elaborate and produced sex

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Speaker 2: performances that Combs himself arranged, directed, masturbated during, and often

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Speaker 2: electronically recorded.

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Speaker 1: A freak off in arranging them.

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Speaker 2: Combs, listen, Here's the witnesses with the assistants and members

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Speaker 2: and associates of Comb's enterprise. Here's the crime transported caused

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Speaker 2: to be transported sex workers across state lines and internationally.

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Speaker 2: They occurred regularly, sometimes lasted multiple days, involved multiple commercial

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Speaker 2: sex workers, and during the free coughs.

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Speaker 1: That's just a nice word.

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Speaker 2: That's just a nice phrase for forcing women to be

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Speaker 2: videoed while they're being raped. During their free coughs, Combs

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Speaker 2: distributed drugs to victims to keep them obedient and compliant. Sometimes,

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Speaker 2: unbeknownst to the victims, Combs kept videos filmed of victims

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Speaker 2: in sex acts with sex workers.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear that?

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Speaker 2: That's exactly Nema Romani what Cassie Venturis said in her lawsuit.

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Speaker 2: Then he would force her to complete sex acts.

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Speaker 1: With sex workers, and he would video it.

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Speaker 2: After freak offs, Combs and victims got IV fluids to

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Speaker 2: recover from all the drug use and physical exertion. Can

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Speaker 2: you hear what I'm saying, Romani? Can you hear the

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Speaker 2: freak coughs I do? This is all consistent with what

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Speaker 2: Cassie told us almost.

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Speaker 6: A year ago in November. She was forced to have

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Speaker 6: sex with these sex workers? Did he recorded it? So

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Speaker 6: there's gonna be a treasure trove of evidence. And if

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Speaker 6: you look at that indictment, they recovered one thousand bottles

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Speaker 1: Name of Ramani.

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Speaker 2: You know what, didn't you go to Harvard? I did

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Speaker 1: A billionaires many?

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Speaker 2: How many bottles of baby oil did he have for

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Speaker 6: How many more than a thousand? Nancy? I never thought

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Speaker 2: But this is just a tiny tape of what we're

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Speaker 2: Out in the hall wearing nothing but a towel, beating

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Speaker 2: he videoed it. There's the Tupac Secure Cloud murder hanging

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Speaker 2: Sit back and twiddle their thumbs. No, they had to act.

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Speaker 6: Ramani Well, of course that to act. We've all seen

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Speaker 2: Coming up two thousand and sixteen, Ramani twenty sixteen, nearly

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Speaker 1: Nima.

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Speaker 6: They did, and their window was closing. Man, see if

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Speaker 6: Victim after victim was coming forward. We're talking about the

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Speaker 3: Alleged Combs use force, threats of force encasion to cause

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Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Sean Puffy Combs in custody in federal custody after being

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Speaker 2: arrested last night at the Park Hyatt Luxury Hotel, fifty

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Speaker 1: Me an all star panel.

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Speaker 2: But we caught up with his lawyer, Agnafello, and this

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Speaker 7: He came to New York to basically engage the court

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Speaker 7: he's gonna plead not guilty. Obviously, he's going to fight

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Speaker 6: Of his lawyers.

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Speaker 7: And I expect a long battle with a good result

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Speaker 1: So kill really if you.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to fight like hell to get him released.

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Speaker 7: And he should be released with all that he's done

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Speaker 2: Go in all right, he should be released because of

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Speaker 2: all he's done. He should stay behind bars because all

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Speaker 2: he has done. I'm guaranteeing you if this were not

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Speaker 2: on bond. I mean Lynn Shaw is joining me Founder

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Speaker 2: executive director Lynz Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking.

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Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw. It's easy to get.

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Speaker 2: Sucked in, not me, but for many people, to get

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Speaker 2: sucked into Shawn Comes' lifestyle, his rolls, Royce's, his mansions,

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Speaker 1: Coats, his luxurious lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: You know what, the devil can wear a tuxedo and

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But until you have seen what happens to sex trafficking victims,

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Speaker 2: it changes everything.

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Speaker 1: It changes the way you.

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Speaker 2: Look at abusers allegedly like Shawn Comes, explain what these

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Speaker 8: First of all, I am disgusted and very angry, Nancy.

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Speaker 8: You know they say a picture is worth a thousand words,

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Speaker 8: But in New York City, if you have a nickname,

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Speaker 1: He did, and it was pimp Daddy. Let me repeat that,

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Speaker 8: I am angry because the focus now, of course, is

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Speaker 8: we will not We still have think about all the

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Speaker 8: girls that were teenagers. Nobody's talking about that yet, that

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Speaker 8: remind you, I started out of college in the music business.

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Speaker 8: I have always heard from girls and women about this

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Speaker 8: I want to remind everybody. Although this is all going

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Speaker 8: So if we show Pimp Daddy, by example, is going

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Speaker 8: I say, let us use this as an example. Let's

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Speaker 2: Nama Romani, she's right, but how are we going to

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Speaker 2: your breakdown on the charges, Nama Romani, Well, we're.

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Speaker 6: Three sets of charges. We have a rico conspiracy. That's

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Speaker 6: We even have arson, nancy, bribery, intimidation of witnesses, so

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Speaker 2: Naima, talking of money when you refer to money being

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Speaker 1: And paragraph four.

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Speaker 2: It directly names the Cassi Ventia video and it describes

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Speaker 2: That goes hand in hand with what you're saying, Nima.

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Speaker 6: Well it does. And we know that he paid tens

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Speaker 6: there's two ways he does it. Apparently, if you look

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Speaker 6: And the other is, of course the force. Right you

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Speaker 6: So Diddy is going to do everything he can to

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Speaker 2: Hey, Nima, it's really hard for anybody to be a

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Speaker 2: But Nima and Romani in here we see in the

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Speaker 2: get it before it was read in court. The Feds

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Speaker 2: That's what they've got here, Nima. And if you could

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Speaker 2: Explain the significance of what they have very wisely done

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Speaker 6: So and in indictment that alleged conspiracy requires an unlawful

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Speaker 6: the hook for all this. And talking about the freak ASTs.

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Speaker 6: If you read the indictment, there's a lot of materials

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Speaker 6: They need the drugs, they need the Ivyes, they need

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Speaker 3: In late twenty twenty three, after public allegations were made

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Speaker 1: Sean Puppy Combs in federal custody.

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Speaker 2: He was arrested last night the cover of darkness at

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Speaker 2: arrest was sooner than the Feds had anticipated. Something triggered

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Speaker 2: them to have the arrest go down immediately. And I

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Speaker 2: can guarantee you as Combs was filmed out on the street,

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Speaker 2: bsing with his friends, cohorts and fans, the FEDS had

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Speaker 2: eyes on him until he went back in that hotel.

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Speaker 2: How do I know that, Because if we saw a

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Speaker 2: video of him and he was out on the street

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes later the arrest goes down, all those Feds

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Speaker 2: were in place in case things went sideways.

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Speaker 1: We know Shampa he.

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Speaker 2: Combs had multiple firearms, many of them illegal, And when

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Speaker 2: you're making an.

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Speaker 1: Arrest, you never know what's going to go wrong.

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Speaker 2: I mean Chris mcdunn and joining me, Director Cold Case's Foundation,

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Speaker 2: former homicide detective, over three hundred homicide investigation Center's belt.

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Speaker 2: You and I have been on many arrayed and many

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Speaker 2: an arrest, and when that happens, you don't know what

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Speaker 2: idiot's going to grab a gun and start shooting Chris.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a very high risk situation, Nancy.

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Speaker 10: And in a scenario like this where you have an

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Speaker 10: individual who is basically what we would call an anger

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Speaker 10: retaliatory predator, he is capable of anything.

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Speaker 9: And so the FEDS were probably way on top of this.

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Speaker 11: With either what they call a T three weren't where

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Speaker 11: they're sitting in a box somewhere and listening to all

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Speaker 11: of the conversations going on, especially with something this higher profile,

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Speaker 11: or they had a criminal informant in the game and

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Speaker 11: somebody tipped off something that puts put this whole thing

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Speaker 11: into motion.

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Speaker 2: You know. Another issue, and what I'm saying about the

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Speaker 2: fans being ready locked and loaded eyes on Diddy, I

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Speaker 2: guarantee they were watching him for hours and hours before

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Speaker 2: they finally moved in and had agents in place in

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Speaker 2: the fire stairwell and undercover in the lobby for real

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Speaker 2: with the earphones in their ear Describe me here he comes,

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Speaker 2: He's going to go on the elevator, He's coming up.

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Speaker 2: Everything was synchronized and perfectly orchestrated to ensure or try

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Speaker 2: to ensure that no one got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Diddy surprised.

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Speaker 2: He did not think this was happening, and he is

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Speaker 2: in federal custody right now. He just saw his lawyer Agnafello,

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Speaker 2: who vows to get him out on bond.

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Speaker 1: Will that happen?

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Speaker 2: Joining me an all star panel including Chris McDonald, Lin Shaw,

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Speaker 2: and Jelica Martinez outside Park Hyatt. But I want to

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Speaker 2: go now to Anima Romani, former fed now trial lawyer,

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Speaker 2: Kelly Hyman joining us, a trial lawyer out of Miami,

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Speaker 2: host of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Once Upon

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Speaker 2: of Crime in Hollywood. Kelly, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the indictment. In

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Speaker 2: paragraph four, we see a direct reference to the Cassie

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Speaker 2: venturup video where he's dragging her and beating her and

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Speaker 2: kicking her in that luxury hotel, throwing.

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Speaker 1: A vase at her, goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 2: But in paragraph five we see him being described as

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Speaker 2: facilitating and using his business, Combs business, to cover up

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Speaker 2: his abuse and commercial sex.

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Speaker 1: It goes on to discuss.

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Speaker 2: What I believe are going to be unnamed co conspirators

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Speaker 2: or at the very least witnesses, security staff, household staff,

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Speaker 2: personal assistance. And I'm reading from paragraph ten right now,

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Speaker 2: high ranking supervisors and other close associates of Combs. That

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Speaker 2: could be anybody, as Nima Romani and I were just talking,

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Speaker 2: that could be the I who set up the lighting

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Speaker 2: for his freak.

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Speaker 1: Freakouts.

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Speaker 2: And what the free costs are is comes forcing women

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Speaker 2: to engage in sex acts with paid sex workers on video,

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Speaker 2: basically being raped on video by some sex worker that

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Speaker 2: you have flown in. We also know that he would

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Speaker 2: give the victims drugs, sometimes they didn't even know they

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Speaker 2: were drugged, and even at selige threatened them with guns.

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Speaker 2: The whole time Combs would be watching the free cough

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Speaker 2: and or masturbating. My legal point is that they've named

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Speaker 2: all these people security staff, household staff, personal assistance, supervisors,

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Speaker 2: other associates of.

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Speaker 1: Sean Puffy Combs.

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Speaker 2: That's the very wide net from which to catch other

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Speaker 2: co defendants.

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Speaker 1: Kelly.

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Speaker 12: These are serious allegations, Nancy, and it's also important to

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Speaker 12: remember the fact that he is the only one listed

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Speaker 12: in this indictment.

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Speaker 6: So what does that mean that.

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Speaker 12: Potentially means the fact that the other people, whether it's

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Speaker 12: people that work for him, are cooperating with the federal government,

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Speaker 12: cooperating and giving information to let them know exactly what

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Speaker 12: happened and what transpires as well.

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Speaker 13: But it could also mean that there are co conspirators

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Speaker 13: could potentially also be charged as well. So these are

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Speaker 13: serious allegations. Now what this means is the grand jury listen.

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Speaker 12: To evidence and based on the evidence presented to the

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Speaker 12: grand jury, they believe that there was some serious crimes

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Speaker 12: and now he is going to go to trial and

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Speaker 12: ultimately the jurors of his peers will make a determination

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Speaker 12: whether or not to find him guilty of these charges.

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Speaker 9: We are not done.

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Speaker 3: This investigation is ongoing, and I encourage anyone with information

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Speaker 3: about this case to come forward and to do it quickly.

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Speaker 3: Anyone with information can call one eight seven seven for

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Speaker 3: HSI KIP.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace joining me.

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Speaker 2: Sidney Sumner Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter Sidney, this

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Speaker 2: guy's got a rap sheet as long as I seventy five.

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Speaker 1: For over and over he was tied to.

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Speaker 2: For instance, he was tied to a deadly stampede and

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Speaker 2: Harlem ninety one, accused of sex assault after a date

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Speaker 2: arrested with Jennifer Lopez. Remember that the shootout at a club,

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Speaker 2: accused of swinging a kettle ball at a UCLA coach

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Speaker 2: That was in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Then, I mean, I don't have to even name it all.

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Speaker 1: There's so much.

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Speaker 2: Somehow he has escaped hard jail time, Sidney Sumner, So

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Speaker 2: what is he looking at?

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Speaker 1: Now? Tell me what you.

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Speaker 2: Know about the arrest last night and the charges now pending.

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Speaker 14: Well, Nancy, these are very serious charges. We have those

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Speaker 14: three counts that racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud

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Speaker 14: or coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution. These are

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Speaker 14: not charges that will be taken lightly. And not to

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Speaker 14: mention all the other things mentioned in this indictment, narcotics, offensive, kidnapping, arson, bribery,

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Speaker 14: and obstruction of justice. What's interesting to me those kidnapping

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Speaker 14: and arson claims. That kidnapping, we've seen that in several

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Speaker 14: of these lawsuits, the latest by Don Richard claiming that

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Speaker 14: Diddy locked her in a car for hours and left

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Speaker 14: her there. Her father had to travel from New Jersey

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Speaker 14: to New York to get her out of that car.

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Speaker 14: When confronted, Combs basically threatened her father, saying do you

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Speaker 14: want to ruin your daughter's music career? And the arson

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Speaker 14: we learned about that in Cassie Ventura's lawsuit. She claimed

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Speaker 14: that Diddy blew up Kid Cutty's car when she dated.

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Speaker 6: Him for just a couple of dates.

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Speaker 14: So we have seen a lot of this and we

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Speaker 14: know that his staff is helping him.

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Speaker 1: Accomplish all of these crimes.

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Speaker 14: So I don't think the Feds are going to let

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Speaker 14: Diddy off easy this time.

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Speaker 2: Chris McDonald, let me direct you to page seven of

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Speaker 2: the indictment come subjected victims to physical, emotional verbal abuse.

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Speaker 1: You know we were talking.

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Speaker 2: With Niema about the baby oil. Well, now we know

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Speaker 2: what all had been found doing the search of that

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Speaker 2: Miami mansion, I mean his mansion that was then put

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Speaker 2: up for sale, monitoring devices, lighting, fresh sheets, drugs, extra linens, lubricants,

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Speaker 2: the lighting for the freak offs, the people who would pay,

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Speaker 2: the clean hotel rooms after the freak COFs trying to

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Speaker 2: paying to mitigate room damage, arranging for travel for victims,

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Speaker 2: for commercial sex workers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 2: That's what they were looking for at his mansion when

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Speaker 2: they rated it. These free coffs would occur often in

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Speaker 2: hotel rooms, and that's why they're getting all that information.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were asking, we were wondering opining the

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Speaker 2: other day, why do they want all the names of

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Speaker 2: the people that were in the hotel visiting the hotel

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Speaker 2: room with Sean Colmes. Why don't we want their room

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Speaker 2: service orders? Why do we want to know who was

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Speaker 2: working that day, what cars they use, what tag numbers

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Speaker 2: they gave?

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Speaker 1: Now we know why?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean all of that evidence, you know, enabling

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Speaker 9: this conspiracy of sex trafficking, etc. You know, Nancy, you know,

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Speaker 9: early in my career from eighty four to eighty six,

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Speaker 9: I was a vice investigator and I worked undercover with

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Speaker 9: the most vulnerable personalities. You know that we're out on

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Speaker 9: the street. This guy, you know, the doc centered earlier.

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Speaker 9: Let's just call it what it is. He was a pimp.

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Speaker 9: He is a pimp and this is all he has known.

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Speaker 9: But the problem now that we have those victims, the

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Speaker 9: girls that have come forward and will potentially testify against him,

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Speaker 9: I think you would agree those girls' lives are in

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Speaker 9: jeopardy starting today, big time. That has ramped up, and

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Speaker 9: so I am really concerned about the safety of these

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Speaker 9: women going forward.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Hey, Lynn, Lynnshaw and Karen Stark. First to you, Lynnshaw.

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Speaker 2: If you look at page eight, we see a paragraph

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Speaker 2: e as an elephant where Shawn Combs's associates would observe,

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Speaker 2: stand by and watch him beat and physically injure victims,

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Speaker 2: keeping them from leaving locations that Sidney Summers told us about,

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Speaker 2: keeping one victim locked in a car, putting them up

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Speaker 2: in hidden locations, forcing them to remain in hiding days

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Speaker 2: at a time to recover from the injuries Sean Combs

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Speaker 2: inflicted on their bodies.

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Speaker 1: So they would.

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Speaker 2: Stand by and watch the victims get raped. The first

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Speaker 2: trafficking case I ever had, the victim was thirteen years old.

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Speaker 2: Combs has been accused of underage rape. They would stand

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Speaker 2: by and video these women getting beaten and raped, and

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Speaker 2: in paragraph a page six, often unbeknownst to the victims,

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Speaker 2: they were being videoed pill He forced them to have

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Speaker 2: sex with commercial sex workers, but then that wasn't enough.

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Speaker 2: According to this, he would beat them and they would

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Speaker 2: actually have to go in hiding for days on end

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Speaker 2: to recover.

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Speaker 1: So the world wouldn't know what comes did.

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Speaker 8: Two of the biggest things that make money right now,

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Speaker 8: Nancy are sex trafficking and extortion. I have spoken to

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Speaker 8: different women over the years and I would say, come

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Speaker 8: forward with this case in New York, and they would say, no,

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Speaker 8: I am too scared. I'm in fear for my life,

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Speaker 8: I'm in fear for my family's lives, and I just

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Speaker 8: want to forget about it. And that is common with

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Speaker 8: sex trafficking victims and survivors. My biggest fear here though,

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Speaker 8: is I want to say I'm afraid. I don't want

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Speaker 8: this to turn into what I believe happened with the

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Speaker 8: Jeffrey Epstein case, where there was a lot of noise,

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Speaker 8: a lot of this, a lot of that, and then

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Speaker 8: we never, in my opinion, really got to the bottom

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Speaker 8: of that. Really, we have one person in prison, maxwell

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Speaker 8: a woman, what else happened? And then a lot of

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Speaker 8: those victims signed on with lawyers for class action lawsuits

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Speaker 8: and we hear nothing from them. This is my greatest

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Speaker 8: fear that this will just all disappear. We cannot let

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Speaker 8: this pimp daddy get away with this mister owning New

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Speaker 8: York City, mister parading around yesterday were Bergdorff Goodman shopping

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Speaker 8: bags and lounging on the Great Lawn in Central Park

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Speaker 8: all day Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: This is incredible.

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Speaker 8: He must, I repeat, he must be put in jail,

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Speaker 8: and we must throw away the keys and make him

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Speaker 8: an example. We don't tolerate this.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 2: Sean Puffy comes in federal custody, his lawyer fighting tooth and.

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Speaker 1: Nail to get him out on bond.

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Speaker 2: We have the federal indictment, pages and pages and pages

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Speaker 2: of allegations straight out to Kelly Hyman, joining US veteran

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Speaker 2: trial lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Kelly.

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Speaker 2: If you look at this, the Feds did it up

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Speaker 2: right because they name all of these charges. They implicate

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Speaker 2: unnamed co conspirators which may turn out to be witnesses

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Speaker 2: against him, but they throw in racketeering. I want to

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Speaker 2: explain that because it sounds very confusing. Rico racketeering. It's

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Speaker 2: called a criminal enterprise. It's normally reserved for the mob,

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Speaker 2: where you'd have a godfather ruling over hundreds of thugs, okay,

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Speaker 2: getting them to do his will, carrying out murders, rapes, pimping, theft, drugs,

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Speaker 2: you name, it. They were all acting in concert. That's

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Speaker 2: what they have alleged here. Why is that important Because

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Speaker 2: it's easy to convict somebody on racketeering, as it's easy

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Speaker 2: to convict somebody on a gun charge.

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Speaker 1: Jump in.

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Speaker 12: The evidence is going to be key. So when you

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Speaker 12: look at racketeering cases, you're looking at allegations of a conspiracy,

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Speaker 12: some type of planned, some type of way that they

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Speaker 12: came together and based on the allegations, they're alleging that

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Speaker 12: there was in fact this conspiracy and the only person

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Speaker 12: that it benefited was Sean Combs, was p Diddy. He's

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Speaker 12: the only one that benefited from this. And they conspire

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Speaker 12: together as allegations that if someone was going to say

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Speaker 12: something that there was allegations of.

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Speaker 13: Threat or harm to them.

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Speaker 12: So they were all working together, they were all conspiring,

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Speaker 12: and that was the criminal in fact enterprise to harm

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Speaker 12: these women. As someone who represents women that have been

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Speaker 12: in human traffic and self trafficking, the allegations in this

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Speaker 12: case are very.

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Speaker 2: Severe and this is going to really hurt him. And

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Speaker 2: the forfeiture allegation paragraph on page twelve, it's eighteen. It's

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Speaker 2: talking about forfeiture allegations. I'm talking about going after Diddy's money.

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Speaker 2: You know what to hey with the money? What about

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Speaker 2: these victims. Many people think, Oh, they did it for

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Speaker 2: the money. They did it for the career. They were

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Speaker 2: raped on video, drugged and raped, beaten kicked, forced to

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Speaker 2: hide out until their bruises went away. There is no

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Speaker 2: defense to that, according to the allegations. We wait and

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Speaker 2: watch as justice unfolds. If Sean Combs manages to walk

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Speaker 2: out on bond, yes, he'll be released for now. Nancy

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Speaker 2: Grace signing off, goodbye friend,