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Speaker 2: the sheet printed out well by me, but prepared by

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Speaker 2: the Great Jason Gibbs and by Gabe and by Jordan.

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Speaker 2: I am live from the Riviera in Venice. That is

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Speaker 2: not accurate. I've never been to Venice.

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Speaker 3: We're there, We're We're not streaming video, so maybe Riviera.

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Speaker 2: Hope everyone's doing well, Thank you for being here. It

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Speaker 2: is Pro Day season, Buckeye Pro Day Today, Alabama Pro

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Speaker 2: Day Today coming up in a little bit. Charles Davis

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Speaker 2: will be here in front of the program. The Great

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Speaker 2: NFL Network, the Great CBS Charles Davis, a man who

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Speaker 2: played college football, a man who is transitioning into the

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Speaker 2: lead CBS college football analyst chair on Saturday, and is

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Speaker 2: as always on the desk for the NFL Network coverage

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Speaker 2: on Draft night. Does Charles Davis think Ty Simpson's a

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Speaker 2: first round quarterback? We'll ask him, But more importantly from

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Speaker 2: a Browns perspective, and maybe that is a Bronx perspective,

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Speaker 2: what does Chuck d do at six? Because in his

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Speaker 2: last mock he had Carnal tat at six and he

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Speaker 2: had Monroe Freeling not even in the top twenty. He

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Speaker 2: had Freeling going twenty seven. Would Monroe freeling, considering it

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Speaker 2: is group think and it is group thinks season, would

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Speaker 2: he be in Charles Davis's top ten in his next

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Speaker 2: mock draft. The answer may surprise you. Chuck D's coming

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Speaker 2: up in a little bit. Plus that whole thing about

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Speaker 2: the officiating yesterday, I think people and it broke when

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Speaker 2: we were on the air, and when I got done,

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Speaker 2: a deal of that? People are catching up What it

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Speaker 2: means that the NFL has a proposal on the books

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Speaker 2: next week at the owner's meetings at the annual meeting

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Speaker 2: from New York or from upstairs if we have replacement officials,

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Speaker 2: not without replacement officials, but if we have to use

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Speaker 2: replacement officials, replay can throw flags. That's what they're gonna

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Speaker 2: vote on next week. A. Do we think we're getting

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Speaker 2: do we think the plan is gonna work? And do

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Speaker 2: we think it's gonna get passed. Judy Batista, another colleague

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Speaker 2: of NFL Network, will be coming up at four pm.

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Speaker 2: She will give you her thought on whether or not

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Speaker 2: whether or not we're gonna get replacement officials because you

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Speaker 2: remember the fail. Mary want you to wrap your head

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Speaker 2: have replacement officials. I don't think it's gonna happen. I

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Speaker 2: putting it on the docket to get voted on, just

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Speaker 2: one big ploy to pressure the officials to take a deal.

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Speaker 2: Is it all leverage. I don't know. We'll ask Judy.

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Speaker 3: We can also ask Judy about some breaking news from

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Speaker 3: Madam Schefter.

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Speaker 3: The forty nine Ers and Rams will play Thursday September

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Speaker 3: So that will does that kick off the season then?

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Speaker 2: No, the first game is going to be Wednesday. The

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Speaker 2: NFL regular season is going to kick off on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: That is now official. The Seahawks will open the season

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Speaker 3: And welcome to insanity.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And that Rams forty nine Ers game which has

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on. A couple of years ago, I remember

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Wednesday Thursday or Thursday Friday?

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Speaker 3: All I know is this Seattle's going to play another

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Speaker 2: They're gonna get extra and they are gonna.

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Speaker 3: Have nine ten They're gonna have ten days off from

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Speaker 3: week one to week two. Correct, potentially correct? Come on,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. If I don't, I guess one. I guess.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, one more day doesn't make a difference.

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Speaker 2: But what does one more day make a difference.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna kick off the NFL season on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: You last year had four teams that played on Thursday

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Speaker 2: Last year, the two teams, the Chargers and the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: they had quote unquote an extra day to prep. But

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Speaker 2: the second game is going to be on a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it. I don't know

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Speaker 3: No, when are they going to have to leave to

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Speaker 2: It's a good question. They'll probably go a week ahead,

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Speaker 3: You're you're you can cancel your labor day plans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Also remember you gain the day coming back, I say,

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Speaker 2: going to be in turmoil as to what time it

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Speaker 2: don't know, all right, there's your breaking news on the schedule.

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Speaker 2: We don't know who the Brown's gonna play at all.

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Speaker 2: There are rumors out there if they could play this

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Speaker 2: you and I talked about this on our PODBPA a

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Speaker 2: Browns dot com. How I was looking at baseball schedules

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Speaker 2: because normally, for example, the Reds and the Bengals don't

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Speaker 2: The Ravens and the Oriols don't the same weekend. Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: There's a little bit of distance, but generally the Steelers

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Speaker 2: means nothing, just nonsense. All right, let's talk about Pro

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Speaker 2: Day's Buckeye protae today. So Kat Hickman, Glenn Cook from

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Speaker 2: You probably have ten guys drafted. There were fourteen guys

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Speaker 2: all thirty two teams were represented. Carnel Tate caught passes

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Speaker 2: When you turn on the tape, you don't see speed

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Speaker 2: and you'll read headlines ty Simpson look great at Pro Day. Friends,

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Speaker 2: It is news when quarterbacks look bad at Pro Day.

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Speaker 3: Would it have been in Theodore? Would have been in Bridgewater?

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Speaker 2: It was Theodore two gloves, Teddy two gloves, well done,

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Speaker 2: He had a bad Pro Day and it was noticeable.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about secret service and the circus that

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then Drake blasting in the background.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't mean hitting him with a broomstick

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Speaker 2: It only matters if you look bad. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: get to Ty Simpson. He looked good today. Yay. Jeremy Bernard.

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Speaker 2: Dan Rolofsky, who knows more about quarterbacking than me and

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Speaker 2: I would argue that as the season progressed, Mendoza had

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Speaker 2: back to the opening possession of the Big Ten Championship game.

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Speaker 2: I thought Fernando Mendoza was dead. That's right, you didn't

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Speaker 2: I remember, I'm sitting in Nathan's house. We're watching that game.

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Speaker 3: We have three different cuts for you, my friends.

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Speaker 2: Okay to pick from. Gibe pick the first one.

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Speaker 3: There we go, uh keV Dan's thoughts on Simpson and

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Speaker 4: This is part of my job. That's not your job, Like,

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Speaker 5: So we're hearing.

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Speaker 6: From you what people could potentially buy in on ty

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Speaker 7: I just watched games like I have. I did this year.

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Speaker 7: I finally got done with Tye. Just so about a

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Speaker 7: in the NFL the very simple text of ty Simpson

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Speaker 2: That's it, two people, that's it. There is the myth

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Speaker 2: Now there are others. I know Jalen Hurts was a

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Speaker 2: Nobody waits to the second round to take you. Jackson

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Speaker 2: Dart second round quarterback, he went the first. Tyler Schuck

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Speaker 2: So if you think ty Simpson's the second round quarterback,

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Speaker 2: him the second round, you take him in the first round. Now,

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Speaker 2: what Danna is saying is a bit different. What Dana

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Speaker 2: is saying is he has him ahead of Mendoza. That

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Speaker 3: We got it. We got a couple. This one got

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Speaker 3: Dan disputing that his agent, who also represents Mendoza, was

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Speaker 7: The comment of it seems like everybody on Earth thinks

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Speaker 7: That's not true. I can factually tell you that that's

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Speaker 7: not a real thing.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like that they're saying that about you.

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Speaker 6: I don't like that they're saying that about you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's fair.

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Speaker 6: Genuinely, I don't think that's fair.

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Speaker 7: I would just I would just like for everybody again,

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Speaker 7: so I pay attention to not to pay attention. I

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Speaker 7: address them all type of thing. But the agents work

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Speaker 7: for us, not the other way around. Just so everybody

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Speaker 7: knows they're they're employed by us, respectfully. That's how the

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Speaker 6: Okay, good, I do think it's I think it's pretty

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Speaker 6: unfair just to naturally piece you together because a does

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Speaker 6: have people that have Fernando's number one guy as well,

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Speaker 6: So it is fascinating that you take that. But on

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Speaker 7: I would just I would just say, I'm not nearly

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Speaker 7: the twentieth pick in the draft. Okay, so okay, I'm

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Speaker 7: just it's not worth them. I don't make enough money

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Speaker 7: people can think what they want.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that got nasty, all right. Full disclosure. My agent

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Speaker 2: is also at CIA. I didn't know that was in there.

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Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. Dan has a different agent.

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Speaker 2: I know Dan's agent. I can tell you Dan's right.

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Speaker 2: That's not how it works, I promise you. I promise you. Now.

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Speaker 2: That means you can't have a little gossip here and there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sure, every business is the same, but I

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, not CAA. There are agencies

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Speaker 2: So there are very few quote unquote independent agents these days,

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Speaker 2: but there are plenty of those guys. Actually, let me

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Speaker 2: many of the standalone agents have massive, massive, massive top

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Speaker 2: ten picks, but some of them do. And yeah, some

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Speaker 2: of those guys will absolutely talk their guy up. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's how it works. That's actually part of their job.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of getting paid to do that or

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Speaker 2: the player, no, I have never heard that. And Dan's right,

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Speaker 2: Dan makes more money than most of us. The idea

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Speaker 2: I mean, no, that ain't happening. He likes Ty Simpson,

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Speaker 2: He's allowed to like Ty Simpson, would you like.

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Speaker 3: To hear his rationale? Yes, let's go cut three please.

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Speaker 7: There is no motive behind this. There is no ulterior

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Speaker 7: jack and Dark should have been a top ten pick.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't. I still felt that way.

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Speaker 7: In relation to the Tie Simpson and Fernando Mendoza thing,

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Speaker 7: it just comes for me. I guess it's the battle

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Speaker 7: of traits versus tape. I am confident that, in my opinion,

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Speaker 7: Ty Simpson's tit tapes are more impressive.

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Speaker 4: His tape is more impressive to me.

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Speaker 7: I can understand where people sit there and say, well,

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Speaker 7: traits because we have this history of the NFL, and

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that that's the only thing that matters.

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Speaker 7: I would argue that the traits are secondary for quarterback

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, I just think his tape is better.

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Speaker 7: Pat I believe that he dominated more games I believe

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Speaker 4: And that's just kind of how I watched the tape.

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Speaker 2: Who am I to argue the man that played quarterback

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Speaker 2: I should tell you. Those are the hot topics of

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Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Browns. And if you want to make

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we have a poll yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So we did have a poll yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh there is. Oh here's your poll today?

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Speaker 2: We know we did, so I meant today. So you

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Speaker 3: We had, but we can post a second one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's do this poll and then I'm going

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Speaker 2: to add a second one. Okay. Is that all right?

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Speaker 2: So here's the poll. Here's the poll that the the

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Speaker 2: On Buckeye Pro Day. Who's the best Buckeye in this

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Speaker 2: year's draft? Caleb Downs rvl Reese, Sonny Styles, Carnel Tate,

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Speaker 2: vote now on Twitter on x It's Brown's Underscore Daily.

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Speaker 2: I'll add another one after listening to Dani Rolobski pump

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Speaker 2: up Tye Simpson? Have you now changed your mind? Because

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard a lot of ty Simpson love from

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Speaker 2: at twenty four, he might be there at twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is. Forget about it. Should he

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Speaker 2: Danie Rolobski, do you want Tye Simpson as one of

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Speaker 3: I'm aware he's been doing it all to day that

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's gotten into him. There was what

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I said, and he played it. I

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Speaker 3: Do I have that right? I think I think I

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Speaker 2: G Man, Did I just show my age by that?

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Speaker 2: Knowing what that music knows? No, we're on the same page,

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Speaker 2: all right. Lovely to see the top of Jordan's head

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Speaker 2: we were getting on the air, did you like the

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Speaker 2: s Super Bowl in Vegas? Raise your hand? Anybody?

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Speaker 3: Anybody never been to a Super Bowl? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Did you like the idea gibet of the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: in Vegas? That was really it was a question for

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Speaker 2: the audience as much as it was for you guys

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Speaker 2: who gets hurt? Have we now? Are we over it?

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Speaker 2: Are we now? Is the gambling thing? Are we just

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Speaker 2: over it? And we're cool with the Super Bowl in Vegas? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I think we are right, I mean yeah, it would

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Speaker 3: be great if one day they would allow us to

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Speaker 3: make some wagers on the NCAA tournament, but that's not allowed. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, we're club employees. I don't bet sports. You don't

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Speaker 2: bet sports because we're not allowed to bet sports. Also,

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Speaker 2: it's not my thing. I wouldn't do it regardless of

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Speaker 2: the rules. True story. Not the case for other people

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Speaker 2: I know, but for me, it is not my thing.

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Speaker 2: That's not the point. The point is Adam Scheff read

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Speaker 2: the news right before we came out of the air.

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Speaker 2: It looks like the Super Bowl in twenty twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: which if you're keeping track at home, would be Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl sixty three, is going back to Vegas. So this

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Speaker 2: year is going to be here at in LA. So far,

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Speaker 2: then it is going to be in New Orleans. Although

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Speaker 2: we don't have a date yet because we could have

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Speaker 2: an eighteen game schedule and we don't have an actual

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Speaker 2: date for that game in two years. We know it's

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Speaker 2: in February of twenty twenty eight, and then in February

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty nine, it's going to Vegas. It's not

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Speaker 2: voted on, but it will be voted on next week

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Speaker 2: at the annual meeting at the owners meeting in Phoenix,

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Speaker 2: And it is basically a Phata company. When I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: when I went to the Super Bowl in Vegas, it

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Speaker 2: was a mess, but everyone else loved it. If you've

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Speaker 2: ever been to Vegas, and I assume many of you have.

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Speaker 2: You know they getting up and down the strip on

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Speaker 2: a Friday night or a Saturday night is an absolute mess.

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Speaker 2: Well make that times a million, a million. If you

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Speaker 2: wanted to drive from point A to point B on Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

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Speaker 2: or Sunday on game day, you were better served walking,

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Speaker 2: even if that meant walking from resort World like the

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Speaker 2: Conrad or the Fountain Blue, all the way on the

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Speaker 2: north side of the Strip, the Stratosphere up there, all

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Speaker 2: the way down to the Mandalay all the way down

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Speaker 2: to the stadium, because the stadium is basically at Mandalay Bay.

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Speaker 2: It's on the other side of the fifteen Freeway. There's

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Speaker 2: a walkway from Mandalay over over the fifteenth. Gibby, you're

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Speaker 2: looking at me. Did I get New Orleans instead of Atlanta?

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Speaker 5: Wrong?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You said New Orleans and Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have it in my head that is New

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Speaker 2: Orleans in two years in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I thought so too.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying it fifty times on air, So I

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Speaker 2: got that one wrong. You have Atlanta. I thought it

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Speaker 2: was New Orleans. Either way, we're talking multiple years out

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Speaker 2: after that one. Vegas is a mess because you cannot drive,

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Speaker 2: you cannot move. But I would rather have cannot drive,

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Speaker 2: cannot move, but I can walk, even if it's a mile,

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Speaker 2: even if it's a mile and a half. I would

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Speaker 2: rather have that than what I had in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: When I say I, I mean the world, the football world,

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Speaker 2: the marketing world, the entertainment world that all goes to

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Speaker 2: these Super Bowls. I'm very fortunate I've been to a

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Speaker 2: bunch of them. It's not about my convenience in the end.

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Speaker 2: If it's a good stadium and a good product in

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Speaker 2: a good game, that's all that matters. But logistics do

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Speaker 2: matter when it comes to the Super Bowl. And like

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Speaker 2: we talked about potentially getting one in Northeast Ohio when

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Speaker 2: the new Hunting and Bank Field is open in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty nine, a brook Park and you have a roof,

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Speaker 2: you have everything that's going into the brook Park Brook

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Speaker 2: Park project. I don't know if it's gonna happen one day,

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Speaker 2: but it's a step in that direction. There are other

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Speaker 2: factors though, obviously hotel rooms and convention space and everything else.

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Speaker 2: In San Francisco in the Bay Area this past year,

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Speaker 2: the teams were. If you know this, if you know

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Speaker 2: northern California, the teams were down in San Jose and

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Speaker 2: Santa Clara. The Niners play in Santa Clara. They play

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Speaker 2: ten minutes from the San Jose Airport and one hour

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Speaker 2: from SFO. One hour on a good day, like a

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Speaker 2: really good day. The majority of the media, the majority

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Speaker 2: of everyone going to the Super Bowl other than the

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Speaker 2: teams were all in downtown San Francisco. That's where the

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Speaker 2: Convention Center was, That's where the events are, That's where

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Speaker 2: everything was. To make it down to opening night, to

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Speaker 2: make it down to the fan fest when the fan

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Speaker 2: fest was in San Francisco, to make it down to

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Speaker 2: the game, to make it down to where the teams were.

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Speaker 2: You were talking two and a half to three hours

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Speaker 2: in the car total round trip and two hundred bucks

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Speaker 2: in Hoopers. It was a mess. That's how it was.

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Speaker 2: Ten years earlier when Cole playing, Beyonce did halftime and

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Speaker 2: Peyton manning the Broncos beat Cam Newton and the Panthers

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Speaker 2: for Super Bowl fifty. Nothing changed. I would rather have

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Speaker 2: Vegas and that's a good stadium, that's a new stadium.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have Vegas where you walk everywhere, even if

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Speaker 2: it's total gridlock.

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Speaker 3: Well, how about another one, Jerry World. I'm shocked that

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Speaker 3: Jerry hasn't made a bigger deal about another Super Bowl coming.

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Speaker 3: That's in the middle of nowhere. That's not exactly ideal.

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Speaker 2: It's in the middle of nowhere. And they had bad

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Speaker 2: weather last time they were they had the big ice storm.

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Speaker 2: And look, in northeast Ohio, we're good with weather. We

572
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Speaker 2: know how to deal with it. Yeah, sometimes you get

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Speaker 2: a massive snowstorm and the snow winds, but we're good

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Speaker 2: with it, we can handle it. In Dallas that week,

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Speaker 2: it was a massive ice storm and they couldn't handle it.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have salt, they had nothing. They literally had nothing.

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Speaker 2: And their idea of handling it was telling people to

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Speaker 2: stay inside and when it melts you can go back outside.

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Speaker 2: Events on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday were canceled. And you may

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Speaker 2: scoff at that and say, who cares, it's only about

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Speaker 2: the game. Okay, that's fine, But come game day they

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Speaker 2: had a massive issue because they had a roof issue.

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Speaker 2: They had an issue with the extra stands they built

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Speaker 2: in the upper tank. So Dallas was not a successful

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Matter fact, it was the opposite of a

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Speaker 2: successful Super Bowl, and as much power as Jerry wields,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they are going to get a

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Speaker 2: game back. Maybe they will. New York, with its open

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Speaker 2: roof and a thread of snow, was a better Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl than Dallas. The snow never came until the morning

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Speaker 2: after the game. At two am after the game, after

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks had crushed the Broncos, it started to snow,

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Speaker 2: and by Monday afternoon, every flight at one of the

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Speaker 2: three major airports in the Tri state area was either

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Speaker 2: massively delayed or canceled. Everybody got stuck there on Monday.

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Speaker 2: But they got the game in. Got the game in

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Speaker 2: just fine. I wasn't going anywhere. I didn't mind. I

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Speaker 2: went to Stanford, Connecticut and did the Sochi Olympics that week.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't leaving. I didn't care. Let it snow, but

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Speaker 2: they got the game in. Having a roof in Cleveland

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Speaker 2: would help, obviously, and maybe, just maybe the Browns would

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Speaker 2: get one. That is a long way down the line.

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Speaker 2: I am fine with Vegas. Do we have time for

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Speaker 2: Joe flaccoh here give or no?

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Speaker 3: You do real quick?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's got some Joe Flacco in here. Flacco is

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Speaker 2: back with the Bengals to the one year deal yesterday

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Speaker 2: and then got on the podium today in Cincinnati. He's

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Speaker 2: kind of ticked. He's happy to be back there, but

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Speaker 2: he's kind of ticked that he didn't get a chance

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Speaker 2: to start elsewhere. Give me cut number one here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that was the goal. You know, there's

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Speaker 8: I guess some possibilities of that. I still wanted. I

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Speaker 8: went into the off season wanting to be able to

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Speaker 8: I was hoping I'd have multiple options and have to

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Speaker 8: make like a really you know, think about it and

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Speaker 8: make a really big decision. And I think that that

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Speaker 8: kind of came up at some point in this offseason,

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Speaker 8: like Okay, can I do this or that? And there

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Speaker 8: was a piece of me going into the off season

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Speaker 8: too that was like I'm willing to go home and

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Speaker 8: sit around if that is if that is the thing,

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Speaker 8: And then as the off season kind of went on,

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Speaker 8: it was like, Okay, I do want to go somewhere

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Speaker 8: and compete and art. But at the same time, if that,

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Speaker 8: if the situation isn't exactly how I want it, and

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Speaker 8: I don't truly feel good about that situation. I did

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Speaker 8: start to feel good about in my gut, started to

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Speaker 8: feel good about the possibilities of going back coming back here,

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Speaker 8: And I had conversations with Zach a little bit about that,

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Speaker 8: just because he kind of knew where I was at

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Speaker 8: in terms of, you know, not necessarily wanting to sign

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Speaker 8: somewhere super early if it wasn't the exact situation that

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Speaker 8: I would want. And yeah, I being honest, like maybe

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Speaker 8: going into the off season, I wouldn't say this is

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Speaker 8: the exact situation that I want, So it maybe it could.

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Speaker 8: It is somewhat of a surprise to sign here early,

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Speaker 8: but I just, like I said, I think as the

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Speaker 8: off season's kind of progressed, and I do think I've

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Speaker 8: been able to look at a couple different situations and say,

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Speaker 8: I don't know, is that exactly what I want? This

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Speaker 8: being one of them, and ultimately just kind of looking

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Speaker 8: in my wife's eyes and trusting how I felt in

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Speaker 8: my gut.

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Speaker 3: I just felt like this was a good place to be.

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Speaker 2: I love Joe. I wish I wish him well. I

647
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Speaker 2: truly do. Like I don't have a single bad thing

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Speaker 2: to say about Joe Flacco. I wished it worked out

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Speaker 2: better last year, did not. Could he have gotten in

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00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: another week or two, Yeah, probably retrospect hindsight twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: They were able to get a fifth round pick out

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Speaker 2: of it, Kenny Pickett, You were able to get a

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick out of that trade. That fifth round

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Speaker 2: pick turned into you, the one for Kenny Pickett into

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Speaker 2: your starting right tackle in Titus Howard. That's a win.

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Speaker 2: If I told you last year, trade Kenny Pickett for

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Speaker 2: a starting right tackle next year and a guy with

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Speaker 2: position flexibility that can stabilize your line, would you have

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Speaker 2: done it, Yes, you would have done it. Now the

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Speaker 2: Flacco trade, I don't know what that fifth round pick

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Speaker 2: is going to turn into yet, but I hope he

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Speaker 2: gets a chance to start not rooting for a Burrow injury.

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Speaker 2: But maybe it isn't there. Maybe they could flip him

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Speaker 2: and send him somewhere else because I love to watch

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Speaker 2: him play. I just love it. Would have loved to

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Speaker 2: see him get a couple of wins last year here

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Speaker 2: as well, alas that did not happen. All right, coming up,

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Speaker 2: it is opening day Guards open tomorrow, and I know

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Speaker 2: some of you are complaining, yelling at the sea that

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Speaker 2: you need to spend money on too many apps now

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Speaker 2: to watch the Guardians, so we'll put that in the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: And for the record, I am not one of these

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Speaker 2: people that is angrily screaming on my lawn. And if

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Speaker 2: you are, you know what, then you're Jason Gibbs. But

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Speaker 2: you should just learn to live with it because there

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Speaker 2: isn't that much sports on free TV. You think there is,

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Speaker 2: but there really isn't. That's coming up next. This is

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Speaker 2: It's me Hi I'm Andrew in for bow and for

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Speaker 2: Nathan there back next week. Tonight is opening Night, Tomorrow's

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Speaker 2: opening day in Major League Baseball. The Guardians open up

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Speaker 2: with Tanner Bobby on the mound in Seattle against the Mariners. Tonight, however,

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Speaker 2: the Yankees and the Giants open up the season at

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock on Wait for It, the Netflix. I don't

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Speaker 2: have a problem with it. And we're talking about this

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Speaker 2: before we were on the air, Gibbe, you were in

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Speaker 2: your fifties. Gabe is in his twenties.

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Speaker 3: I am forty eight years old.

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Speaker 5: Day.

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Speaker 2: I am sorry, dude, I thought you were in your fifties.

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Speaker 2: I apologize. Okay, Will you be forty eight again next

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Speaker 2: year and then forty eight the year after that? No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you're actually forty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were older than me by a year.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: Well, the g man loved that. Doctor J A.

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Speaker 2: Not cutting Doctor J out of this. Doctor J. Were

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Speaker 2: you on the call earlier when we were on speakerphone.

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Speaker 2: Were you in the room?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: He was okay, he was a silent observer. We were

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Speaker 2: having the conversation earlier when Gibbe said, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to have to put on Netflix to watch the game.

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Speaker 2: And I said, Gibbe, do you have Netflix, or let

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Speaker 2: me rephrase, this is Netflix available in your home? And

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Speaker 2: you said yes? Yeah, said okay, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: be uppity or bougie or first world or elitist. Do

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Speaker 2: you know anyone that doesn't have Netflix in your house

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Speaker 2: or have access to it. I'm not encouraging that people

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Speaker 2: share passwords fifteen times, but I don't know anyone that

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Speaker 2: doesn't have Netflix. Anybody. My parents are in their eighties.

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Speaker 2: They have Netflix. Everybody's got it. Now again, you want

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Speaker 2: to fight back and say no, I'm not spending the

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Speaker 2: extra twelve bucks. Okay, that's fine, I get it. We

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Speaker 2: all have to divvy up what we have and our

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Speaker 2: resources and try to figure out what is we're going

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Speaker 2: to pay for. But even people that have cut the cord,

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Speaker 2: that don't have cable, that don't have satellite TV, most people,

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Speaker 2: if they make a choice, it's Netflix and say Disney

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Speaker 2: for the kids, ADESPN Bundle Sports and for the kids

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Speaker 2: and Netflix. Are there people elderly people living in a

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Speaker 2: home that maybe don't have Netflix, and you're concerned that

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Speaker 2: your old man can't watch the guards or the Giants,

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Speaker 2: or the or the Yankees tonight on Wednesday Night, Opening

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Speaker 2: Night on Netflix and the cafeteria at the home. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure somebody can find the game for them. I know

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00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: it's easy clickbait stuff from old man columnists and the

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Speaker 2: media folk who want to go on Twitter and scream

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Speaker 2: and yell that all the rights are fractured and this, like,

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Speaker 2: but can we just get off the lawn and stop

743
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Speaker 2: yelling about how difficult it is to watch games? Please?

744
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: Like how many games are actually free these days? Like

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00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: you could go by from the hardware store the high

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00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: def antenna for twenty nine to ninety nine and put

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Speaker 2: it on top of your television and actually get live

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Speaker 2: sports for free. Not that many, Like Sunday afternoon football,

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Speaker 2: Sunday night football that is still free. Go get rabbit Ears.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and make an ear joke if you want, Andrew,

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00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: go get rabbit Ears. You can watch them. You can

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Speaker 2: watch the Cavaliers if they're on NBC on Sunday or

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Speaker 2: last night. You can watch a certain number of events.

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Speaker 2: You can watch the Olympics, you can watch the World Series.

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Speaker 2: But really, that's it, the idea that all sports are

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Speaker 2: free on TV. It's not the case, it is not

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Speaker 2: the case. You want to watch the Buckeyes on Saturday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they might be the big noon kickoff. They might be

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00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: on NBC, they might not be. They might be on Peacock,

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Speaker 2: they might be on Big ten Network. Big ten network

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00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: is not an over the air channel. Like, it's just

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Speaker 2: the way it is. Joe Shad, speaking of Netflix, reporter

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Speaker 2: down in Miami, put this on the Twitter today. If

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Speaker 2: you had one app where every sporting event was available

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Speaker 2: from every possible channel, one app you can get everything,

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Speaker 2: what would you pay one hundred dollars or less one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars or less two hundred dollars or

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Speaker 2: two fifty What would you pay?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you right now. You could charge me

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Speaker 3: probably whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want, that's my point, Yeah, whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: Like if there is an appen and.

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Speaker 3: That's my biggest beef is I hate the fact that

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Speaker 3: I've got ten accounts open. I agree that part sucks.

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Speaker 2: I agree it's not for me the price. It's the

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Speaker 2: ease of use that's the biggest issue. Like I get

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Speaker 2: the Guards through direct TV, okay, but some nights I

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Speaker 2: want to watch them streaming because I want to flip like,

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Speaker 2: but if I do that, then you can't flip back

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Speaker 2: and forth. It's payd of the buck to flip back

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Speaker 2: and forth. You're watching one thing, then it turns up

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Speaker 2: I take out it like an iPad. You're like, I'll

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Speaker 2: watch the game here on the iPad. Not everyone's got

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00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: the man cave with the five TVs. You watch one

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Speaker 2: of the iPad, you watch one of the TV. That's

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Speaker 2: what's a royal pain to me. It isn't the cost.

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Speaker 2: It's the accessibility that to me is the issue. And

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00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: that's what people should be complaining about, not where you

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Speaker 2: find it, because it isn't really that hard to find it.

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Speaker 2: Just isn't we like complaining. Yes, cost is always an issue,

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Speaker 2: but for two hundred and fifty bucks, if you can

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Speaker 2: watch every Browns game, every Guard's game, every Calves game,

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Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Two fifty plus everything else? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: people would pay a lot more than two fifty. Ah,

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Speaker 2: a lot more than two fifty. I think Chase the

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Speaker 2: latter is gonna win Rookie.

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Speaker 5: Of the Year.

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Speaker 7: By the way.

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Speaker 3: The bold statement Cotton.

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Speaker 2: I know, Connor Griffin and Pittsburgh is everyone's favorite, the

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Speaker 2: shortstop and he's got massive power.

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Speaker 3: Cobridge sucks.

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00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: So wait, ge Man says he didn't make the opening

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Speaker 3: day roster.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so they're being cheap and they're sending him down

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00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 2: to limit his service time. There we go, look at that.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't realize that gee Man, Chase the latter is

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Speaker 2: gonna win Rookie of the Year. Did anyone hear what

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Speaker 2: it sounded like off the latter's bat Monday night? Anybody

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Speaker 2: I didn't?

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Speaker 3: You were raving about this later today?

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Speaker 2: Go back, Kevin heard it. Go back and listen to

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00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: what his first home run. But they both sounded loud,

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Speaker 2: but the first one to center field. Go back and

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Speaker 2: listen to that. If he stays healthy, he's got a

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Speaker 2: homer tomorrow night. By the way, if he stays healthy,

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Speaker 2: he's Rookie of the Year. Please. And he's weren't twenty

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Speaker 2: four like if Grady Sizemore warn't built like a tailback,

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Speaker 2: if he were built like a six or four wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: who should play the X? That's chased the latter and

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Speaker 2: he's worn twenty four?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up next does the Browns proposal to trade draft

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Speaker 2: picks five years in advance. Have any chance of passing,

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Speaker 2: and what do we think of this whole replay and

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Speaker 2: replacement official thing. Judy Batista, my colleague from NFL Network

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Speaker 2: who covers old league issues, will be with us coming

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Speaker 2: up after this. Andrews Ciciliano sitting in for Bowen Nathan.

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Speaker 2: Hey friends, uh Bo has gone. Nathan is going to

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Speaker 2: get me today. Hi, it's Andrew. Happy Opening Night. I

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Speaker 2: think Yankees and Giants. No, I'm not a fan of either.

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Speaker 2: Open up the baseball season this evening on the Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Did I see my next guest at a game last

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Speaker 2: year in Cleveland? I'm trying to remember. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I know our paths crossed at least once. Joining us

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Speaker 2: now with the Twisted Tea Hard Iced Tea hotline is

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Speaker 2: the great Judy Batista, my colleague from NFL Network, Twisted Tea,

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Speaker 9: Hi, Judy, Hi Andrew, this is like old times.

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Speaker 2: I know I miss it. How are you?

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Speaker 9: I'm fine? I can't wait for opening day?

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Speaker 2: Psych So who do the Mets have? Judy is a

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Speaker 2: Mets fan For those who don't know, I met that.

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Speaker 9: I don't even know who they're playing. Wait they're home,

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Speaker 9: I do. Wait a second, we'll the schedule. Keep talking.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, are you a Yankees fan too?

861
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 5: No?

862
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 9: No, no, no, absolutely not. But the Mets done open

863
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 9: until tomorrow. Okay, Like I don't love I'm I'm a traditionalist.

864
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 9: I wish the season is still opened in Cincinnati. So

865
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 9: a little old like that. But whatever, we'll work through it.

866
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll work through it.

867
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 9: Hold on, wait, it's Pittsburgh. Wait it's Skiing.

868
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the Pirates. That's why, so, Judy. Yes, one

869
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: of our producers, the Great, the Great Gabe, the Great

870
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: the g Man is because I'm on his zoom here

871
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: with them, is like waving his arms and and he

872
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: just covered one of his eyes. He's from Pittsburgh, by

873
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: the way, and he's covering one of his eyes, right,

874
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Okay, Pirates, I get it. Thank you

875
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: buckos Mets and the Pirates. Judy, let's talk about the

876
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: annual meeting, the owners meetings as they're known by most people.

877
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: We're both going to be in Phoenix next week for that.

878
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: All the coaches, all the GMS ownership all schedule to speak.

879
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: Everyone gets together. They vote on all the fun things,

880
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: and they vote on the not so fun things as well.

881
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: The thing that came up yesterday which I think opened

882
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: some eyes, is this idea that if if there is

883
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: a work stoppage with the officials, if then may so

884
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: maybe this year we do this thing where New York

885
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: or somebody in the building, you know, the nameless, faceless

886
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: officiating person, and just change stuff on replay. So we

887
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: don't have a fail Mary before we get to that.

888
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: Is this leverage or by putting this on the docket

889
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: next week, we're actually looking legitimately at a workstop at year.

890
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 9: I think it's both. I don't think there's any question

891
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 9: this is a very strong piece of leverage, leverage moved

892
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 9: by the NFL, right, I mean, this is something that

893
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 9: the officials would never want, right, like, because you're starting

894
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 9: down the path of them basically being able to call

895
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 9: a game from New York or wherever, which of course

896
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 9: they don't want. Right you would be superseding the on

897
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 9: field officials. So the officials would not want that. And

898
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 9: they know that if this happened, right, if we got

899
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 9: to a point where there's a workstoppage and the regular

900
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 9: season starts and they have to use the replacement officials

901
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 9: and they put this plan into place, it's going to

902
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 9: be really hard to unwind that even when the regular

903
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 9: officials are going to be there, Because if you're a player,

904
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 9: a coach, fans, aren't you going to be saying like, well,

905
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 9: why aren't we using technology to absolutely make sure the

906
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 9: calls are absolutely perfect? Why shouldn't you use technology to

907
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 9: supersede their calls if the calls are wrong. So it's

908
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 9: hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube if

909
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 9: you go down this. So that's why it's such a

910
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 9: strong leverage play. But it is also preparation. I mean,

911
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 9: we god knows, we all remember the fail Mary when

912
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 9: we had a workstoppage with officials. It was a mess.

913
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 9: It was embarrassing for the league. It was really bad,

914
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 9: you know. I mean, certainly they don't want this, but

915
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 9: it does not sound like negotiations are going particularly well.

916
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 9: You know, it's very early. Obviously, it's only March. We

917
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 9: got a long way to go until the season starts.

918
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 9: But you know, certainly they're they're preparing for it.

919
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: Talking to Judy Batista from NFL Network here, and I

920
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 2: was talking on my Yahoo show to to Dean Dawkins earlier,

921
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: and I broke the news to him that this thing

922
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: is up for discussion next week. He had not heard

923
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: about it, and he loved it, loved it, loved it,

924
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: loved it, and said, yes, well, it's about time. Let's

925
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: get it right. Until Judy, I mentioned to him that

926
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: at least for now, holding is not one of the

927
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: calls they can fix. And then he said nad to

928
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: heck with it. I don't want it holding, because he's

929
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: an alignment. Holding in his eyes needs to be part

930
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 2: of it. I think the bigger question for me is,

931
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: let's say there is some kind of work stoppage, Judy,

932
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: who is going to be calling these games? Are we

933
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: talking college officials working double duty? Or are we talking

934
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: below college?

935
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 9: I don't think we've gotten to that point. I can't

936
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 9: imagine it would be below college. I don't think we've

937
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 9: gotten that far that we know who would call the games.

938
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 9: You know, they used college officials last time around, and

939
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 9: you know those are those are certainly the best trained

940
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 9: that you could get. You know, perhaps officials from other

941
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 9: professional leagues you could use. I mean, it's a bad situation, obviously.

942
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 5: The rules.

943
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 9: The rules are complex enough for the people who do

944
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 9: it all the time, and the game is so fast,

945
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 9: and we say this all the time, it's remarkable they

946
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 9: get as many calls correct as they do when they're

947
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 9: having to make the call in real time. The game

948
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 9: is so fast, it's the rule book is very complex.

949
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 9: To expect replacement people who you know, don't do this

950
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 9: all the time to be able to step in with

951
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 9: relatively little preparation and get this right. It is just

952
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 9: not realistic, right. I mean, you've got to have a

953
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 9: safety net, which is what they're creating here. You know,

954
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 9: Jeff Miller, who is an executive for the league, set

955
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 9: on a conference call today like we're going to play

956
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 9: football in the fall, so you're going to need to

957
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 9: help the officials here. You have to have officials on

958
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 9: the field. You have to help them. But this is

959
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 9: also part of a bigger you know, Roger Goodell during

960
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 9: his Super Bowl press conference this year, it was very

961
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 9: clear that he believes in using technology to help officials,

962
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 9: to help get the calls right. I think there's a

963
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 9: recognition it's really hard and that the on field officials

964
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 9: are actually at a disadvantage compared to us. Right, we're

965
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 9: watching on monitors, or we're watching at home, fans are

966
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 9: watching at home. We can see the plays much better

967
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 9: than the guys who have to call it on the field.

968
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 9: Guys and women who have to call it on the field.

969
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 9: You know, we can rewind it, we can watch it

970
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 9: in super slow motion, frame by frame. So you know,

971
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 9: Roger Goodell made the point like you should be using

972
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 9: technology to support them. It's not to undermine them. It's

973
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 9: to help them. If you want the calls to be correct,

974
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 9: the calls have to be as.

975
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 5: Close to perfect as you can make it.

976
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 9: So this would certainly be a step towards that, and

977
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 9: obviously want to the officials would not, that's for sure.

978
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: No, not at all. Last thing on this, here's what

979
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: my gut tells me, after hearing everything you're saying, my

980
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: gut says that under normal circumstances, what was proposed yesterday

981
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: would likely not pass. Under these circumstances, it passes as

982
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: a leverage play only yes, because yes, I expect that

983
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: you agree.

984
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, yeah, it's it's clearly negotiating position number one.

985
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 9: And it is also I mean, look, they will have

986
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 9: many more conversations with owners by the time we get

987
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 9: closer to the regular season. If there's not a deal

988
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 9: in place with the officials right where they're going to

989
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 9: have to go over with them like this is what

990
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 9: we're going to do. But there's no question right now,

991
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 9: this is a this is a negotiating player.

992
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: And just to be clear, this, if they vote yes

993
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: on this, if the real officials, the real officials, if

994
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: they get a deal and they're they're week one and

995
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: its status quo. This does not apply this his own

996
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: right case of a workstoppage. Judy, there's the thing last

997
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: week in which the Browns were the ones to bring

998
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: forth a proposal to be voted on next week in

999
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: which we would expand the current rule, which is you

1000
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: can trade draft picks three years in advance, not just

1001
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: first round picks, but any pick three years in advance.

1002
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: Expand it to five. The NBA rule is seven. I

1003
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: don't think five is unreasonable. Again, my gut tells me

1004
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: it has some support, but not enough support this year.

1005
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: What are you hearing?

1006
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 9: Yes, I agree exactly with what you say. I think

1007
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 9: it does have some sport. We saw Kevin demos from

1008
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 9: the Rams, like tweeted about it, you know. I mean, now,

1009
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 9: the Rams obviously are very comfortable with trades. They're really

1010
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 9: really good at them. My guess is that most franchises

1011
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 9: will view this as a pretty big leap, and probably

1012
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 9: not one they're willing to take on the first go around. Like,

1013
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 9: you know, they would have to think about it a

1014
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 9: little bit more. And really part of it is because,

1015
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 9: I mean, trading picks five years in advance in the

1016
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 9: NFL is an entire regime change, right, So not only

1017
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 9: are you affecting the current regime, you're theoretically affecting the

1018
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 9: next head coach and the next general manager too, And

1019
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 9: so I would think, you know, most franchises are relatively

1020
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 9: conservative in their thinking.

1021
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 5: At least.

1022
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 9: Initially, and then maybe after more conversation they come around.

1023
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 9: So I would be surprised if this passes on the

1024
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 9: first go around. I certainly think it's something they will

1025
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 9: talk about. Interestingly, Rich McKay, who chairs the Competition Committee,

1026
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 9: was on the conference hall again today and he said,

1027
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 9: you know, they they had thought about it. They you know,

1028
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 9: he's not going to tell us what their position is

1029
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 9: right now on it, what the competition committee thinks, So

1030
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 9: I'm curious when we get to the meetings to hear

1031
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 9: what those folks think. You know, it trades generally a

1032
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 9: lot of excitement, obviously in all sports, but it's certainly

1033
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 9: in the NFL where we've seen more and more trades

1034
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 9: in the last few years, like they're really fun and exciting.

1035
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 9: I just feel like there's a feeling of five years

1036
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 9: out is you're mortgaging too much of your future.

1037
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: Maybe this split the difference and make it for I

1038
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: know the initial snark, and remember, friends, snark is not analysis.

1039
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: The initial snark I saw was oh great, So the

1040
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: Browns are just trying to get ahead of everyone, so

1041
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: they could trade five or seven years of picks to

1042
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: get arch manning next year. That's not what this is.

1043
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: I promise you that is not.

1044
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 9: That would be fun, but that would be so much fun.

1045
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think.

1046
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 9: I wouldn't muster kind of trade like that would be crazy.

1047
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't give it be fun, yes, but it would

1048
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: be fun. That is not I promise you that is

1049
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: not what this is. There is a little bit of

1050
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: support out there. The leap from three for the NFL

1051
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: to seven for the NBA, and the NBA has has guardrails,

1052
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: like you can't trade number one picks in consecutive seasons.

1053
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: You could trade pick seven years. Out there are guardrails,

1054
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: so maybe there is some middle ground. I don't think

1055
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: middle ground is unreasonable. We'll see where it goes. Judy,

1056
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: I have like one minute remaining here, and I appreciate

1057
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: your time. I love you for doing this. Is there

1058
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: anything else you're interested in next week other than just

1059
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: the people watching?

1060
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 9: There's a potential rules change that they could use a

1061
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 9: replay to put a flag on the field that had

1062
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 9: not already been thrown by game officials in a case

1063
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 9: that would lead to an ejection.

1064
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 2: Right, so throws it again?

1065
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 9: Another baby step, right, that is another baby step toward

1066
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 9: using replay to put flags on the field, which they

1067
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 9: have traditionally been very reluctant to do. So watch that

1068
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 9: one because that would be a step toward a big

1069
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 9: philosophical shift and associating as it passes.

1070
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: So like to put it in our parlance. So if

1071
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: a steam were to throw a punch and the officials

1072
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: missed it, that Steeler would still be ejected.

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Speaker 9: That Steeler could be ejected because somebody up in a

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Speaker 9: booth or in New York could say, hey, wait a minute,

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Speaker 9: you missed that. That guy threw a punch and connected.

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Speaker 9: He needs to be thrown out of the game, even

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Speaker 9: though that flag wasn't front on the field. So watch

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Speaker 9: that because that's another step toward a big change in

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Speaker 9: officiating if they go there.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't mind that at all.

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Speaker 9: Nope, at all, And I think that's if you're going

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Speaker 9: to do it, I think that's the right place to start,

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Speaker 9: because it's obviously a game and team altering infraction.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm all for that. We'll vote on that next

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Speaker 2: week and we'll raise a glass as well. Watch Judy

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Speaker 2: Fatista on The Insiders on NFL Network at seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: and see her next week at the annual meeting in Phoenix. Judy,

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01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: safe travel is good like getting through TSA, and I

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Speaker 2: will see you in Arizona.

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Speaker 9: Can't wait to see Andrew if I make the flight paper.

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Speaker 2: Likewise, Judy Batista, everybody coming up in about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: What does Charles Davis think about Monroe freeling at six?

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Speaker 2: The answer may surprise you or it may not, but

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Speaker 2: Davis coming up at a second with his thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the draft. We have a couple of draft related poll questions.

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Speaker 3: Giba, That's right, the Browns Daily Web poll in honorable

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Speaker 3: Ohio State's Pro Day today, Who do you think is

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Speaker 3: the best Buckeye available in this year's draft? Sixty one

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Speaker 3: percent say safety Caleb.

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Speaker 2: Downs Who's two.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen percent say linebacker Sonny Styles, twelve percent say linebacker

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Speaker 3: Slash Edge Rvel Reese, eleven percent, wide receiver Carnel Taate.

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Speaker 2: So interesting because I would say, what was the number

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Speaker 2: again for uh Caleb? Sixty something?

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Speaker 3: Sixty one percent?

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Speaker 2: If I if we had changed the question too, if

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Speaker 2: you could only pick a buckeye, which buck eye do

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Speaker 2: you want? At six? I think that number would be

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Speaker 2: in the sixties, if not higher, for Carnel taite. Do

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Speaker 2: we agree?

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Speaker 3: I think? So? This is a weird that's.

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Speaker 2: A weird year. It is a weird year. Do we

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Speaker 2: have any any feedback on the other pole question? Then?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Through out there?

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Speaker 3: Boy?

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Speaker 2: Do we okay? So this is in light of real quick,

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Speaker 2: in light of daneral Losty going on with McAfee yesterday

1138
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: and saying he likes Ty Simpson better than Fernanda Mendoza

1139
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: and getting into a heated conversation in which Pat basically

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01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: accuses Dan of being on the take because he and

1141
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: Mendoza are represented by the same I'm sorry, he and

1142
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Speaker 2: Simpson represented by the same agency.

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Speaker 3: Go, I can tell you people's thoughts haven't changed on

1144
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: Ty Simpson in this town, okay, and the ninety say no,

1145
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Speaker 3: thank you?

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01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay. The question was, now that you've heard Dan pound

1147
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: the table for Ty Simpson, do you want him? You want?

1148
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Speaker 3: You want one of our two picks. Yeah, one of the.

1149
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: One percent. No, that's right. Orlovsky thinks the guys better

1150
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: than the number one overall pick. That's right, just saying.

1151
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: But ninety one percent.

1152
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: Said no.

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: Part of me thinks they think the quarterback room is

1154
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: already crowded enough. I don't need anyone else this year,

1155
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: wait till next. Some of that is, obviously I don't

1156
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: believe in ty Simpson. Ty Simpson has hurt down the stretch. Listen,

1157
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: I like ty Simpson. I'm not taking him at six

1158
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: just me. But if you this is not just an

1159
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: Orlowsky opinion. Charles Davis, Daniel Jeremiah, Todd McShay, whomever you

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01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: listen to, We'll all tell you the first half of

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01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: the year before he got banged up, ty Simpson was

1162
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: a darn good quarterback. But again, only one year as

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Speaker 2: a starter. He waited, he finally got the shot he produced.

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Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, I'll ask the great Chuck

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01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: d not the one I saw perform in Vegas pack

1166
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Speaker 2: in January with Flavor flav but Charles Davis, friend of

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Speaker 2: the program, NFL Network and CBS, does he like ty

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Speaker 2: Simpson and what does he think a Monroe Freeling at six.

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Speaker 2: This is great. That's one of my favorite people. Let's

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Speaker 2: it twisted, Cleveland. To a guy that never gets things twisted.

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Speaker 2: He only speaks the truth. He is one of the

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Speaker 2: best football analyst period. You'll be seeing him coming up obviously,

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Speaker 2: as you always do on NFL Networks draft coverage. The

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Speaker 2: draft is now inside of a month to go. He

1183
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Speaker 2: is live from an airport. He is not helping out

1184
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: with TSA. He is merely the great Charles Davis. How

1185
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: are you, sir?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing well. It's good to hear your voice, Andrew

1187
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 5: always and the way things are going, I almost feel

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Speaker 5: like I should be helping TSA so people can get

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Speaker 5: driply catch their flight. I mean I was, I literally

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Speaker 5: was in line today. I don't know the last time

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Speaker 5: this happened to you. I think when we were kids

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Speaker 5: it was a little more standard and he maybe even

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Speaker 5: beyond that. But you know, years ago it was a

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Speaker 5: little more standard. If you were running late. Uh huh

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Speaker 5: excuse me, I'm sorry, is it possible for me to

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Speaker 5: move up? My flight leads an x amount of time?

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Speaker 5: And people, hey go here go, you know, the whole deal.

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Speaker 5: Then we got to the point where if you were

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Speaker 5: doing that, you get slowed down by the people at

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Speaker 5: the gate, you know, at the at the check in

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Speaker 5: right like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoaa, what's rush here? You

1202
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 5: became a person of suspicion, you know. But with everything

1203
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 5: going on now, you know, trying to just get places.

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 5: Someone came through, Two people came through, and I felt

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01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 5: like it was the old days. Everyone said, hey, go,

1206
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 5: good luck, we hope you make it. So I felt

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Speaker 5: actually heartened by that because I'd gotten this to the

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Speaker 5: point where seeing when people would ask, you might not

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Speaker 5: get a yes. I mean it, he's got red you

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Speaker 5: can make no. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Today was a fun day, oh man, and not not

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01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: to not to do Where in the world is Charles Davis.

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01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: But you're in Philadelphia, so you didn't. You didn't yell like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I have Kenyan Sadika at twenty three. You're gonna love him.

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Speaker 2: Let me through.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did not do that.

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Speaker 2: You did not do that. That that is from Chuck

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Speaker 2: your your mock two point one, which is right after

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Speaker 2: the combine. And I know these things are mocks. They're

1220
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Speaker 2: not set in stone, but it's it's what we have

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Speaker 2: most recently from you. That was three weeks ago. Back

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Speaker 2: then you had Carnel Tait at six and today's Buckeye

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Speaker 2: Pro Day. He worked out, he didn't run. He's standing

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Speaker 2: on the four five three. And you have Blake Miller,

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Speaker 2: who is from Strongsville, which is like right down the

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Speaker 2: street from Brie can probably practically walk to work for

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Speaker 2: mom and dad Dad's house. At twenty four. Let's go

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Speaker 2: with six because the big debate is obviously tackle or

1229
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Speaker 2: wide receiver at six? Why did you go wide receiver

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Speaker 2: at six?

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Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you flip a coin right, sometimes you

1232
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 5: just that day it felt a certain way. But I

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01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 5: just feel like in the last X number of years.

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Speaker 5: There have been moments that have been really good for Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: We know that, right, a couple of playoff appearances head

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Speaker 5: coach at the time was Coach of the Year twice.

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Speaker 5: But there've been some pretty big lows as well, because

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Speaker 5: there's not been much follow up and this is a team,

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Speaker 5: I believe again it's hit the reset button in so

1240
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Speaker 5: many ways trying to get there. Excitement's kind of been

1241
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 5: at a premium, you know, in terms of how offense

1242
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 5: is run. Do you have someone you can get the

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Speaker 5: ball to that can create things for you, especially on

1244
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Speaker 5: the perimeter, just has to happen.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: In a while, there have been some pretty good workman

1247
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 5: life type receivers, but not that receiver that any defense

1248
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 5: since you know, stays up at night and goes, oh boy,

1249
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 5: we got to deal with them next week. Tate could

1250
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Speaker 5: provide some of that, and that's kind of why I

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01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 5: went there. And look, I could have gone either way

1252
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 5: because both receivers and tackles are fairly deep this year,

1253
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Speaker 5: so I could have flipped it and it's probably gotten

1254
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Speaker 5: another receiver at twenty four and if I've gone tackle first.

1255
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Speaker 5: But that day I was just feeling my cardinal Tate,

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Speaker 5: Ohio State State of Ohio. Don't let him get away.

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Speaker 5: And it's interesting to me that you said he stood

1258
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Speaker 5: on his time at the pro debt because there was

1259
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Speaker 5: so much discussion posts obviously from his camp, working through

1260
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Speaker 5: the agent and the whole deal. Hey, other people have

1261
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 5: in timed a lot better than this. This is going

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Speaker 5: to be the official time, Okay, so be it. We've

1263
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Speaker 5: almost forgotten that four or five is still as but

1264
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 5: him not running this time, it's a signal to me

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Speaker 5: that he probably is closer to the time that actually was,

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Speaker 5: because if he knew he was that much faster, you

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Speaker 5: run instead. You just let it stand. You don't deal

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Speaker 5: with it again, just in case you don't run quite

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Speaker 5: as well as you did the last time. Andrew, four

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Speaker 5: or five whatever, it's just fine, Okay, he's gonna be okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: four five, he's gonna be just fine. But we've forgotten

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Speaker 5: four or five as fast, you know, we'll unless you're

1273
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Speaker 5: into the four low four fours. Now, that's about the

1274
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 5: first time you get an arched eyebrow anymore, isn't it.

1275
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 5: And we used to be we hear a guy go

1276
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 5: four ooh, he's moving. Now we kind of shrug and go, Okay,

1277
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Speaker 5: we'll see what we got. Because we've got some guys

1278
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Speaker 5: running four THREESU.

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Speaker 2: Crazy, so many four threes at the Combine and now

1280
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Speaker 2: now a lot of those guys don't go on to

1281
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 2: anything of the NFL. We're talking to truth exactly, but

1282
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 2: a lot of them do. And we are so to

1283
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Speaker 2: your point, accustomed to these clips going viral, these kids

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Speaker 2: running four threes or four two's whatever. Xavior Worthy has

1285
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 2: entered the chat in at the Combine. For those who

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Speaker 2: don't know, Charles is a former defensive back, played defensive

1287
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Speaker 2: back in Tennessee, played in the SEC, played at the

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Speaker 2: highest level. Charles, when you watch Carnel Tait, does it

1289
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Speaker 2: look like speed is ever an issue? Because for me,

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Speaker 2: I don't see that.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm with you, Andrew, I don't see it at all.

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Speaker 5: We've had this discussion about so many different people. Jerry

1293
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 5: Rice is always the most prominent one because he ran

1294
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Speaker 5: into four sixes. But what's always the joke? Did you

1295
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 5: ever see him get caught in his prime? I didn't know.

1296
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Speaker 5: You know, play speed versus time, speed, all those things

1297
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Speaker 5: that go with it. But Tate makes plays, He goes

1298
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 5: up and gets the football, he catches it and makes

1299
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Speaker 5: someone miss. He does all the things that you're looking

1300
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Speaker 5: for at a rate of speed that's going to be

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Speaker 5: more than acceptable. You know, if he ran four eight,

1302
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 5: we'd have a discussion about different because that's a whole

1303
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 5: different deal. Four or five three, and how you regulate

1304
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 5: that four or five to three when you are open

1305
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 5: at the catch right because you've run a really crisp,

1306
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 5: sharp route in turn to turn the dB or getting

1307
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 5: yourself some separation, and now you're running four or five

1308
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 5: to three away from him, he's not likely to catch you.

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 5: You know. It's it's those sorts of things that kick

1310
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,440
Speaker 5: in like that. But I just think that the pedigree

1311
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 5: and being around that that program, being in that wide

1312
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 5: receiver room. When you think about it, in the recent

1313
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 5: iteration of all these wide receivers who have gone on

1314
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 5: to the NFL from Ohio State, have you really missed

1315
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 5: They've come out and they've been pretty darn productive in

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Speaker 5: the NFL.

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01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: I mean, the one that push back on. But there

1318
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: are other issues there going on quarterback most.

1319
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 5: Notably absolutely, But he's two years in. You know, we'll

1320
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 5: see where it goes. But you know, when you think

1321
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 5: about the others of me, and obviously Buka had to

1322
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 5: have the success right out of the gate. A Lobby

1323
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 5: went through the injuries and then was a second team

1324
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 5: All Pro Lasher in New Orleans. When they've made a

1325
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 5: line rush, you know, he just keep going down the

1326
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 5: line and like there's something special there. Unless say Marv

1327
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 5: doesn't hit, you're still way to the plus side. I'm

1328
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 5: receivers hitting versus receivers not hitting. Yeah, and that's a

1329
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 5: big deal because Andrew. In our lifetime, there have been

1330
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 5: other positions in other schools and I will leave them

1331
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 5: nameless now. But we used to work with a person

1332
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 5: who said, I will never draft the player from that school.

1333
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 5: And it sounded so unreasonable, didn't it. Because it was

1334
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 5: a Power five school with a really nice pedigree. But

1335
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 5: he'd had a few bad experiences with players coming from

1336
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 5: that school and he's like, no chance, and he just

1337
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 5: put it all in the school and off he went.

1338
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, funny how that works. Talking to the great Charles

1339
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: Davis here CBS and NFL Network, there's a lot of

1340
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 2: group think Charles that goes on and yeah, listen, for

1341
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: years we would discuss that on path through the draft.

1342
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: I know you guys will do that again this year.

1343
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: The group think right now is that Monroe Freeling. I

1344
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: know you have Lowmu in your mock draft going at

1345
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 2: twenty eight, but Freeling here is the left tackle. If

1346
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: you want a left tackle, you need him because he's

1347
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: the left tackle, even though he's only a one year

1348
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 2: starter at Georgia. In your first mock you have him

1349
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 2: down at twenty seven. You got those two guys, Freeling

1350
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 2: and low Move going back to back. Are you with

1351
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: the group think when you do your next right now

1352
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 2: that he is higher and should be in consideration at

1353
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 2: six for the Browns.

1354
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 5: I hear all that conversation, and I understand it. My

1355
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 5: thing with him is very simply this, okay, one year starter.

1356
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 5: The potential is there, but if he goes at six,

1357
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 5: he's plugging right in like it's a lock. Like it's

1358
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,839
Speaker 5: almost like drafting a quarterback in the first round. He's playing, okay,

1359
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 5: will he gets the best on the job training and

1360
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 5: grasp it pretty quickly so that by the second half

1361
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 5: of year one you go, okay, we're good. Or is

1362
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 5: he still a guy that might need a little bit

1363
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 5: of extra work, a little bit of extra polish and

1364
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 5: in the meantime, you know, running backs are getting hit,

1365
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 5: quarterbacks you're getting hit, et cetera. I think that he's

1366
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 5: an excellent prospect. I will tell you now, I will

1367
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 5: not have him at six in my next one for Cleveland.

1368
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: Would you have in the top ten?

1369
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 5: He will not be in the top ten for me either.

1370
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1371
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I just you know, in the last few days,

1372
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time watching these tackles, and look,

1373
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 5: I'm not you know, mister offensive line guy. I'm very

1374
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 5: confident that when I watch a player, I have a

1375
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 5: pretty good idea of who I think he is. That's

1376
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 5: just you know, we all feel that way, right, that's

1377
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 5: what we do. But when I watch him, the idea

1378
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 5: that I'm going to take him in the top ten

1379
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 5: and plug him in, and that's going to be better

1380
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 5: than right, Blake Miller, that's gonna better than Malianoah, how

1381
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 5: you feel about Funo from coming from Utah with his

1382
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 5: arm length? Are you okay with that? Or do you

1383
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 5: think you have to kick him inside? You know, low move. See,

1384
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 5: Lomo has been a left tackle as well, and I'm

1385
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 5: telling you, Andrew, he is about as consistent and steady

1386
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 5: as a rock playing that position, no super flash and

1387
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 5: dash right. So when you watch him, it's play after

1388
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 5: play after play. You see the footwork, you see the

1389
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 5: hand placement, you see the proper, proper positioning. But it's

1390
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 5: not super spectacular, you know. I hope everybody's getting the message.

1391
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 5: Remember when Trevor Penning came out of Northern Iowa. Yeah,

1392
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 5: and it felt like after every play he gave a

1393
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 5: guy an extra shot.

1394
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to him. We had Charles, you and I

1395
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 2: had him, Daniel Jeremiah. We were calling the Senior Bowl

1396
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 2: practices all week. There was a people wanted to fight

1397
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 2: him every week. I honestly think he took it too far.

1398
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 5: Well, I think you remember me standing next to you,

1399
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 5: tell me you and saying on air, at some point,

1400
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 5: just play ball, man, Okay, at a certain point, just

1401
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 5: go play ball. We got it. You're you're a tough guy, Okay,

1402
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 5: you want to take people on, And You're right. Everyone

1403
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 5: wanted to fight him in the whole deal. Trevor Penning

1404
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 5: has not been a good football play in the NFL. Okay,

1405
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's the reason. All I'm saying is

1406
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 5: sometimes we fall in love with that extra and you know,

1407
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 5: the tough guy swagger into this and the that. The

1408
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 5: guys who just take care of business and handle a position.

1409
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 5: Pop in Blake Miller's tape at Clemson, guy played like

1410
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 5: three whatever the number of plays is, or a four

1411
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 5: year starter was crazy. Right, You're going to find some

1412
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 5: plays where he got beat. You're gonna find some places

1413
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 5: where it didn't go well, but all in all, you're

1414
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 5: going to find a really good right tackle you know,

1415
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 5: who has experience, who again unhurried in his movements, very

1416
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 5: confident what he's supposed to do. Handles the power, handles

1417
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 5: the speed. Those are the guys that I'm looking at

1418
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 5: and I like a lot. I'm not saying I don't

1419
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 5: mind a flat actually got I'm just not my point.

1420
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,520
Speaker 5: My point is I want the guys I know consistently

1421
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 5: or getting it done. Freeling one day may very well

1422
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 5: consistently get it done. Right now, you're projecting that's a

1423
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 5: Maryus mimes with a little more experience coming out of Georgia.

1424
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: Andrew Right, Yeah, it's it's it's the choice that these

1425
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: whether you're picking at six or whether you're picking at five,

1426
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 2: wherever you're picking. When you have a draft with how

1427
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: many with only so many blue chip plug and play guys.

1428
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 2: And I'm not dumping on this draft. I'm not.

1429
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 5: But no, that's just how it is.

1430
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's how it is. You you're going to be

1431
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: forced to make these decisions like ty Simpson charles like

1432
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 2: it's Alabama that one's blowing up because Dan Rolobski, who

1433
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: certainly knows more about quarterback play than me times a thousand.

1434
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: Dan's not the only one. Dan's not the only one

1435
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: that really likes ty Simpson's play the first half of

1436
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: the year. Then he got banged up, right, you know,

1437
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: it went sideways. You know Kyleer Devores on the radio,

1438
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: Kaylin Bores on the radio in Cleveland earlier today. He

1439
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,879
Speaker 2: wasn't jumping on the table like Tom Cruise with Oprah

1440
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: for ty Simpson. He even saying, but it wasn't like,

1441
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: oh my god, you got a draft this guy.

1442
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1443
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 2: When Orlovsky gets on the air and says he doesn't

1444
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: have he doesn't have the twitch, the height, all the

1445
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: things that Mendoza have. Not that that Mendoza's twitch even

1446
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: bad way to describe it. He doesn't have the tools

1447
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: that Mendoza has, better way to describe it. But he's

1448
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: got better tape. Do you buy that.

1449
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 5: You mentioned the first half of the season, his tape

1450
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 5: was really good.

1451
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, you go from game two to like game eight,

1452
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 10: game nine, it was really good. They had some injuries

1453
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 10: with the offensive blind, they had some other issues and

1454
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 10: as you said, it kind of went sideways from there.

1455
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,520
Speaker 5: Mendoza all the way through just kept getting better. Mendoza

1456
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 5: is a product of what we've seen in recent years

1457
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 5: what I call the late rise. And believe me, it's

1458
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 5: not John Nash and it's not an original term. Okay,

1459
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 5: but you know those late rides, like Joe Burrow was

1460
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 5: a late rise.

1461
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 2: Yep.

1462
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 5: People forget it. People forget Joe Burrow. Teams have third

1463
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 5: and fourth round grades on I'm going into his last

1464
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 5: year at LSU and he became number one pick. Cam

1465
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 5: Ward pretty much the same thing, Zach Wilson. I know

1466
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 5: the pro career has not gone well, but you have

1467
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 5: to go back to when we were scouting an analyze.

1468
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 5: He rose all the way up to the number two

1469
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 5: overall picking. Again, probably had third and fourth round grades

1470
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 5: from a lot of people going into that last season.

1471
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 5: So we kind of quote unquote trust the rise when

1472
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 5: we go with the number one overall pick. We're kind

1473
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 5: of going there, and Doz is a great example of that.

1474
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if people had third and fourth round grades,

1475
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 5: it might have been a little bit higher for him.

1476
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 5: But then we always played to get what's the game?

1477
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 5: We always play well. If he was in this draft

1478
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 5: or if he was in that draft where with inbacks

1479
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 5: and I think I saw Matt Miller, who I think

1480
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 5: is really great at doing this stuff. I think he

1481
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 5: did one of those articles. Okay, let's take him over

1482
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 5: the last X number of drafts. Where would we put him?

1483
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 5: And I think he had him like number eight out

1484
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 5: of you know, sixteen or seventeen quarterbacks who have been

1485
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 5: taken during that time. Okay, that's fine, but you know,

1486
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 5: you and I have to deal with here we are today.

1487
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 5: As you mentioned about this draft, that's great, that's a

1488
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 5: fun article. At the end of the day, we're not

1489
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 5: comparing him to those guys because they're not in this draft.

1490
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 5: He's in this draft. And by her own personal opinion,

1491
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 5: dan Orlovskiz, you said knows more about quarterbacking than you.

1492
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 5: He knows more about quarterbacking than I do. And I

1493
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 5: never questioned someone else's opinion like that, that's up to them.

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01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 5: I'll just give you my own. I think he's a

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01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 5: second round quarterback. That doesn't mean he's a bad quarterback.

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01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 5: That means he's got a chance to be a starter

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01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 5: in the sleeve. But if you're asking me to say,

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01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put a stamp on and I'm gonna take

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01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 5: him and he's got to go in the top. Whatever. Now,

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01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 5: I will also tell you last year, I think it

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01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 5: was my mock two point zero or whatever. I knew

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01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 5: Brian da Bole loved him. I knew all those things.

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01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 5: Did I expect him to go at three? No? But

1504
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 5: you know I don't do trades in my mock draft,

1505
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 5: so I get to put them with the team, and man,

1506
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 5: people lost their mind, like people flipped out. I had

1507
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 5: people rolling up to me on the street. I wanted

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01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 5: to know if I'd lost my mind. Where did Jackson

1509
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 5: start end up going Giants? They came and got him

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01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 5: at twenty six. Okay, I feel like Ty Simpson's in

1511
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 5: the same position this year. Okay, to me, the Cardinals

1512
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 5: make a lot of sense. But do they make sense

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01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 5: at three or do they make sense of them coming

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01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 5: back and getting them in the twenties, and because I've

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01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 5: been trying to place him in different places, Andrew, try

1516
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 5: and place him. You've done the game. Am I gonna

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01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 5: place him at Pittsburgh at twenty one, which is quarterback needy?

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01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 5: Am I place him at the Jetet was at sixteen

1519
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 5: with their second number one pick? Am I placing him?

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01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 5: You see where I'm going? Yeah, I can't find a

1521
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 5: place for him in the first round for me, someone

1522
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 5: else will. I'm just eager to see if someone who

1523
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 5: already has a pick takes it, or if it is

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01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 5: the product of the Cardinals coming back or someone else

1525
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 5: coming back into the first round to take it, because

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01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 5: there's a difference there.

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01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: Charles, you got a flight to catch. I love you.

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01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: Let me give you one more thing and keep it

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01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 2: at sixty seconds here, I said earlier on the show

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: in a perfect world, at six, Jeremiah Love is still

1531
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 2: there for the Browns, and Cardinal Tate would be great

1532
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: as well. Any offensive lineman you want to take there

1533
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: at six, whether it's Freeling or whomever, all of them there,

1534
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 2: but especially Love, because if Love is there, he is

1535
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 2: the one guy the teams who would potentially trade up for.

1536
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: And whether it's you make Washington think right behind you

1537
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: at seven that somebody's going to jump them whomever, and

1538
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: then you get some value to move back and still

1539
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 2: get potentially cardinal tape.

1540
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 5: Maybe Yeah.

1541
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 2: Do you think short answer, if you like, do you

1542
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: think that New Orleans and Kansas City would still be

1543
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: in the Jeremiah Love market considering what they did in

1544
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 2: free agency?

1545
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to say no. For for a major trade,

1546
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 5: I must say no. But should they be to me? Yes?

1547
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,799
Speaker 5: And what's interesting about this is we're talking about Cleveland

1548
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 5: at six, right, I would not fall out of my

1549
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 5: chair if the Cardinals at three, the Titans at four,

1550
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 5: the Giants at five ran his card up there.

1551
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: Right, I'm with you. I don't want them.

1552
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 5: To no, but but I would not. I'd have zero

1553
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 5: surprise whatsoever. And I'll leave it with this. Dave Gelman

1554
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 5: got darn near crucified as a gym for the Giants

1555
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 5: when he took Sakuon Barkley and they didn't have great success.

1556
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 5: Remember that you don't take a running back that ht well,

1557
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 5: he's going to be a Hall of Fame running back,

1558
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 5: which is why coach Gttledon took him. Then Joe Shane

1559
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 5: may be able to re e that at five, and

1560
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 5: there should be no criticism if he makes that.

1561
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 2: Move, and then maybe in season hard do or off

1562
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: season hard knocks would come back.

1563
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 5: I mean, but you know, coach Gettleman caught all that

1564
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 5: nonsense and people should be calling him and going, yeah,

1565
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 5: you nail the potential Hall of Famer. It too guy.

1566
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 5: The rest of the team didn't come along, but he

1567
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 5: identified that guy who was, you know, going to have

1568
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 5: a bust one day, which is why he took him

1569
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 5: at two. The same thing could happen at five. And

1570
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 5: by the way, John Harball doesn't like a guy can

1571
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 5: run the football, does he.

1572
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: No, he hates that. He hates that. No, that it

1573
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 2: would make all the sense in the world, like anyone

1574
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: who says, oh, they have Cam Scatta, but guys, guys,

1575
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 2: I like Cam. Yeah, come on, he's a fun little player.

1576
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love is so much, so much.

1577
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 5: Hey, He's just like when I was playing in college, Andrew.

1578
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 5: I was a four year starter at Tennessee. Every year

1579
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 5: they try to recruit guys better than me because I

1580
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 5: was good, But we should be trying to get great.

1581
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 5: Every year you try and get someone better. That's okay,

1582
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 5: that's the way the game works. That's why you take

1583
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan. Even if you have Clyde Drexler.

1584
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Right exactly, you go get Tony Kukoach, even if you

1585
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: have Scottie Pippen, although Scottie is still.

1586
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,440
Speaker 5: You go get them. Yeah, you get great players.

1587
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: Charles Davis is great. He's a great friend, he's a

1588
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: great broadcaster, and he's a great man today for doing this.

1589
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: While he's about to board a flight, Chuck d travels

1590
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: safely man. Great to talk to you, sir as always

1591
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of your path to the draft. We

1592
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: are almost there.

1593
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, you do the same, and I will leave

1594
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 5: you with this. The last time I flew out of

1595
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 5: Philadelphia at my gate waiting to board. Yes, the great

1596
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 5: Henry Winkler, no way the fonds. Wow. And I got

1597
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 5: to tell you something, I've never seen anyone handle people

1598
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 5: coming up to them and doing the same thing four

1599
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 5: hundred times better than Henry Winkler. If I had a

1600
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 5: dollar for every first and he just smiled and said

1601
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 5: thank you to every single one of them, is the

1602
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 5: most amazing thing I've ever seen.

1603
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: It's like Charles Davis walking through a room when everyone

1604
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: realizes he's that guy from Madden, and I've seen that happen,

1605
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 2: and Charles couldn't be cooler and smoother and more generous

1606
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 2: way like he is with his time.

1607
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 5: We all wanted to be the Fonds. You know that

1608
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 5: I know.

1609
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: And now Charles. In the next segment, I will explain

1610
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 2: Arthur Fonzarelli to our differ audience. Love travels too.

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01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 5: You'd be good to Andrew talk to you later.

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01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 2: He's the guy there's a show called Happy Days back

1613
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 2: in the day, like I'm even too young for Happy Days,

1614
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 2: but it was on Charles Davis was.

1615
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 3: Saying something because you're older than me.

1616
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Charles Davis is the guy that watches

1617
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: Lifetime in his hotel room every night and the Hallmark Channel,

1618
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 2: actually the Hallmark Channel ahead of Lifetime. He is an

1619
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 2: insight lapedia of knowledge from the Hallmark Channel. True story.

1620
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 2: He knows it as well as the draft. That's it

1621
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: for the show. Thanks to Gabe, thanks to Jordan, thanks

1622
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 2: to Kevin, Thanks to give It. My name is Andrew

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01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:17,959
Speaker 2: Siciliano ben Fontana's in for the show tomorrow. Please drive safely, everybody,

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01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,000
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