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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Drive to.

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Speaker 2: The Draft, we're talking the big nasties and we couldn't

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Speaker 2: help ourselves. We've got our top thirteen offensive lineman, guards

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Speaker 2: tackles center, and then we've got the fastest forty When

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Speaker 2: is it okay to take a luxury pick? And then

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Speaker 2: we got guys that are moveing on off our boards.

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Speaker 1: It all starts right now. Welcome to the Drive to

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Speaker 1: the Draft podcast. Logan, you're a ten year NFL VET Logan,

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Speaker 1: Paulson here with us. Very exciting. I know, not the

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Speaker 1: draft guru, no, soon to be, not the king of

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Speaker 1: the Draft, but the prospect professor and also really good

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Speaker 1: friends with me. I'm just a guy, Jason. How good

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Speaker 1: of friends are we? Logan? I would say that we're

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Speaker 1: pretty good friends.

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Speaker 2: Good friends because not elite friends, not elite, but definitely

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Speaker 2: above average.

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Speaker 1: We're right there. Yeah, like we're pretty close to Uh.

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Speaker 1: I had something come up this past week and you

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Speaker 1: text me, Hey need a babysitter. Let me know.

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Speaker 2: That's that's I mean, that's almost.

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Speaker 1: Do you take you up on it? I'm just straight

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Speaker 1: ignored it because I'm afraid of like another big relationship

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Speaker 1: like that, and I'm afraid to commit to you that way,

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Speaker 1: but that's close to elite status. That's crazy talk by you.

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Speaker 1: Crazy talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're pretty good friends, not great friends, good friends.

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Speaker 1: But the most important thing is that this is a

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Speaker 1: draft podcast. We hope that if you're a fan of

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Speaker 1: the Watching Commanders, you really get a lot from this

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Speaker 1: because we take it from a Washington commander's perspective and

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Speaker 1: try and look at how the team is being formulated

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Speaker 1: in the off season. It's a lot of fun for

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Speaker 1: people to project what's gonna happen and whatnot. We try

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Speaker 1: and keep that pretty grounded with what we know is

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Speaker 1: going on here and your insights. But also, if you're

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Speaker 1: a fan of another team, guess what you're gonna get here.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get some names, you're gonna get some analysis,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get some prospect evaluation. So if you're a

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Speaker 1: fan of another team, maybe not the Cowboys, but if

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Speaker 1: you're a fan of any other team, please join.

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Speaker 2: Us, Yeah on our journey with the Draft to the Draft,

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Speaker 2: if you will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, our ticket to the drive to the Draft. And

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Speaker 1: this episode we have done edge, We've done wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: so now we're doing the top ten offensive line. I

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Speaker 1: think Logan, you said, this is this is my jam.

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Speaker 1: I want to do twelve of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I have thirteen guys written down. Just

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Speaker 2: because one of the guys that's like right at the

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Speaker 2: thirteen spot, I've seen him in a lot of Top

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Speaker 2: one hundreds. I thought it'd be good to talk about him,

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Speaker 2: just to kind of get his name out of it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this was really hard I've never done.

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Speaker 2: Usually we do tackles than interior players. That's a little

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Speaker 2: That's really hard. Like you know, I know at some

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Speaker 2: point we're going to do our big you know, our

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Speaker 2: this of watching all the tackles than watching the guards

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Speaker 2: because they move differently, the standards for the position are different.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I did my best with that, and this

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Speaker 1: was my call just to be clear to kind of

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Speaker 1: reasoning behind why I did that is that fairly often

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Speaker 1: example of that would be Sam Cosmi here in Washington,

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Speaker 2: You always feel like it's a funny time of year.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I think people are hedging, and so I'm going

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Speaker 1: Look, I tried the I tried to put you in

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Speaker 1: You won't do it. I don't want to do like,

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Speaker 1: don't put LOGI in a corner.

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Speaker 2: Don't put me in a corner. That's right, don't do

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Speaker 1: Okay. So that's that's how we're gonna approach this now

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Speaker 1: full transparency. No one really cares about my, uh my

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Speaker 2: Well, I kind of liked that we've done the way

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Speaker 2: we're valuing different things based on our past evaluation history,

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Speaker 2: So I do think that's kind of a fun element

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, think that'll be a lot of fun to

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start, and I'm just gonna because we

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Speaker 2: So we got Caleb Turning from Northwestern is my thirteenth guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Caleb Turnings on my list because when I

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Speaker 2: He's six seven, he's like three twenty five, looks like

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Speaker 2: I just don't know what the ceiling is for him.

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Speaker 1: And when you say start right away, do you mean

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Speaker 2: In a certain type of liad, I kind of see

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Speaker 2: it more as like a swing player, honestly, kind of

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Speaker 2: a guy that could play both. If someone gets nicked up,

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Speaker 2: was a Jalen Travis last year, the guy from Iowa

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Speaker 2: seven three forty five, three fifty. I always felt that

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Speaker 2: Jalen Travis had played with a lot more strength than

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Speaker 2: I see with Caleb Turning, and that's going to be

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Speaker 2: so I feel like he's just to me, below my

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Speaker 2: redirection and foot speed.

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Speaker 1: So again, very very close.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like I needed to talk about him

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Speaker 2: because I see him in all these top one hundred lists.

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Speaker 1: All right, So who's number twelve for you?

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Speaker 2: Jake Slaughter is the center from Florida. So he's six',

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Speaker 2: four he's three hundred and five, pounds a little bit

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Speaker 2: on the undersize side, Name, yeah great, name AND i

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Speaker 2: think to me he was one of the better CENTERS i.

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Speaker 2: Watched the other center WHO i didn't get to was

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Speaker 2: the Center lou From auburn last Name. LOU i didn't

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Speaker 2: get to watch, him but he would Be this would

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Speaker 2: be of the GUYS i watched the numb one, guy

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Speaker 2: great foot, speed great, balance really understands hat placement and,

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Speaker 2: hat run his, feet plays with good. Strength there's a

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Speaker 2: nice finish to his. GAME i THINK i don't like

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Speaker 2: to value overvalue, center so he might go lower than.

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Speaker 2: This BUT i think the thing that comes out and

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Speaker 2: he does get overpowered at times by bigger offensive, lineman

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Speaker 2: but he does have enough tools in the toolbox to

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Speaker 2: survive those.

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Speaker 1: Downs Like Darryl jackson.

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Speaker 2: From Florida state kind of would put his hands on

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Speaker 2: those how to hop to. Stop he's got really nice bendy.

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Speaker 2: Knees he gets into his hips, well he can kind

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Speaker 2: of survive some of those, downs but versus, bigger more athletic,

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Speaker 2: Guys he's gonna have ourt of. Time but love the,

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Speaker 2: to the second, level love the angles he takes and

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Speaker 2: can tell he's played a lot of football and is

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Speaker 1: Guy so is he the highest center you have on your? List?

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Speaker 2: Yeah AGAIN i didn't watch the kid From, alburn but,

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Speaker 2: yes he's the highest.

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Speaker 1: CENTER i. Okay so the last center that went relatively

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Speaker 1: early that we were kind of HIGH i on and

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Speaker 1: put kind of up towards the list Was Jackson. Powers Johnson's,

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Speaker 1: yes that's, right who went TO i want to say

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Speaker 1: The raiders has a pretty good career there so? Far playing? Guard,

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Speaker 1: right how does? He, yes he's playing? Guard how do

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Speaker 1: you compare him to a previous center that went pretty?

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Speaker 1: High since this is your highest center, here just kind

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Speaker 1: of to talk ABOUT i basically want you to tell me, about,

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Speaker 1: like how is a transition from center from college to THE?

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Speaker 1: Nfl how's that difficult to kind of? Project why they

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Speaker 1: don't go higher? Generally and then what you're looking for

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Speaker 1: in a modern.

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Speaker 2: Center, yeah really good, Questions, Aarah i'll start with why

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Speaker 2: they don't go. Higher to, ME i always feel like

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Speaker 2: everyone says center is one of the more important. Positions to,

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Speaker 2: me the center you can insulate that, guy and you,

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Speaker 2: insulate meaning you can call an offense where they don't.

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Speaker 1: Have to be super.

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Speaker 2: Involved, right if you're playing a four down spacing, team

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Speaker 2: which most teams do, now because you're in nickel so,

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Speaker 2: much there's never anybody over.

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Speaker 1: You you're.

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Speaker 2: Uncovered so you're never going to be in a one

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Speaker 2: on one in pass, pro you're never going to be

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Speaker 2: really in a true one on. One in a run,

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Speaker 2: block you're going to be in a double, team you're

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Speaker 2: going to be in a. Slide it's one of the

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Speaker 2: reasons That Jason kelcey was so. Effective, now Great hall

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Speaker 2: Of fame type, Player jason Kelce but two big guards

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Speaker 2: kind of eat up some of those big. Mismatches so

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Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why usually they don't go.

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Speaker 1: Higher, now do you want them to be more athletic

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Speaker 1: because of? That because you're pulling a lot and they

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Speaker 1: also need to be super, smart, right because this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that's helping you with protection up.

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Speaker 2: Front, yeah, ABSOLUTELY i think he's got to be a smart,

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Speaker 2: guy and he is a smart. Guy AND i think

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Speaker 2: the reason Like jackson Powers johnson goes, Higher Creed humphrey

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Speaker 2: goes higher is there is a good play strength element

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Speaker 2: to those. Guys, right they're, big they're heavy, handed there's

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Speaker 2: some quickness to. Him BUT i do think the undersized,

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Speaker 2: center it's got to be a very scheme specific.

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Speaker 1: Environment.

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Speaker 2: Right the REASON i Think Jacksons johnson goes in the

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Speaker 2: first round is because he can play, guard, Right Creed

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Speaker 2: humphrey and a pinch can play guard for. You. Right Tyler,

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Speaker 2: lindenbaum who was drafted in the first round By baltimore

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Speaker 2: a couple of years, ago he, can't in my, opinion

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Speaker 2: play guard because's two hundred ninety five, pounds.

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Speaker 1: A little bit smaller. Guy so that role is very.

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Speaker 2: Specific AND i think that's Why Jake slaughter isn't higher for,

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Speaker 2: me because AGAIN i worry about the total body, weight

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Speaker 2: worry about the play. Strength, again the, intellect the, positioning

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Speaker 2: the technique very very, good like he's going to be

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Speaker 2: a good. Pro it's just how do you value that

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Speaker 2: at a position where there's no guard?

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Speaker 1: Flexibility, basically, gotcha no. THANKS i learned something.

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Speaker 2: There, YEAH i mean that's my and again you'll find

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Speaker 2: people that feel differently about that for, sure but that's

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Speaker 2: just my personal.

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Speaker 1: Opinion all, Right who's number, Eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah Isaiah world is my. Guy and so this is

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Speaker 2: a little bit of this is going to go against

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Speaker 2: most consensus boards at the, Moment like a lot of

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Speaker 2: people Have Caleb turning Above Isaiah. World Isaiah world is

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Speaker 2: a raw, prospect no doubt about. It he's six,' eight

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Speaker 2: he's about three hundred and, Eight pounds he's. Got long

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Speaker 2: his arms look like they're. Crazy long i'm curious to

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Speaker 2: see what he measures at. The combine but has a

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Speaker 2: electric kickslide and can move like one of THE things

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Speaker 2: i look at as a look at how the, guy

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Speaker 2: kicksets how he readigres versus like, a stunt like an,

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Speaker 2: inside move how the tackle, can redirect and then how

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Speaker 2: he cuts off like a backside inside like. Three technique

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Speaker 2: and the athletic movement Skills Of isaiah world a very.

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Speaker 2: Basketball esque he's light in the. LOWER half i think

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Speaker 2: that's going to really hurt him at the. Next level

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Speaker 2: but in terms of like remember that. ATHLETIC projection i

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Speaker 2: was talking about like what is the athletic ceiling for?

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Speaker 2: This player, to me it's light years Ahead Of. Caleb

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Speaker 2: turning so if you're a team and you have time

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Speaker 2: to kind of work and develop a Prospect Like isaiah

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Speaker 2: world seems like the guy you want to develop in, my,

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Speaker 2: opinion right like he's got, these traits he could be

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Speaker 2: something more than his draft grade, or Value While caleb

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Speaker 2: turning to me feels a little bit more. Ready made

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Speaker 2: so in this, LIST specifically I think i'm betting more

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Speaker 2: on his upside, because again he's like if you Watch

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Speaker 2: The texas, tech game there's times where You Know david

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Speaker 2: bailey's kind of putting him in a blender a little

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Speaker 2: bit in terms of, spin movies have a hard time with,

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Speaker 2: the redirection his angles a little. Bit Off but, i'm

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Speaker 2: like if you get him with a technical coach and

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Speaker 2: clean some of that, Stuff up like he's got everything.

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Speaker 2: You want the, arm length, the frame the movement skills are.

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Speaker 2: All there it just depends on whether you feel like

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Speaker 2: you can. Develop HIM and i think that would be

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Speaker 2: a really interesting proposition with.

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Speaker 1: This Prospect so i'm sure we'll bring this back. Up

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Speaker 1: again but what is it about his when you say

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Speaker 1: it's a little, bit, light right how do you look

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Speaker 1: at that and say that he's going to struggle with

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Speaker 1: that at the. Next level but is that like a

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Speaker 1: but we'll help put wade, on there or is it

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Speaker 1: a technique thing that can help him anchor a. Little

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Speaker 1: better or are you, just, like hey he might not

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Speaker 1: be the. Strongest guy that's going to be, a problem

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Speaker 1: but we're going to bet on these other things that

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Speaker 1: they can. Offset that how do you?

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Speaker 2: Balance, THAT yeah i think that again is a, great

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Speaker 2: question and it's one of those conversations are probably having in.

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Speaker 2: Draft meetings and SO what i will, say IS like

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Speaker 2: i Look At josh connelly as a perfect case study,

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Speaker 2: For This Like. Josh connery, you know he's six' five,

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Speaker 2: almost sixty six he's got thirty, four inch arms, he

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Speaker 2: moves great but HE'S only like i think he weighed

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Speaker 2: in three hundred and five three hundred and ten. POUNDS

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Speaker 2: last year i think they had been three fifteen. At

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Speaker 2: the combine but is a is a small like he's

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Speaker 2: a small like. Small frame GUY and so i look

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Speaker 2: AT that and i, say, to, myself like man he's

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Speaker 2: going to GET. In the nfl he's going to be

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Speaker 2: here for a. Year or two he's going to get,

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Speaker 2: so much stronger so. Much more powerful it's not like

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Speaker 2: his anchor, is bad now but he's going. To PHYSICALLY

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Speaker 2: develop and i think with those, tackles like that physical

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Speaker 2: strength is something that you kind of grow INTO at.

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Speaker 2: The nfl level And When, At isaiah world i'm seeing

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Speaker 2: A guy that i think has some there is a

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Speaker 2: lot of. Rawness to, HIM so again i might be

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Speaker 2: a little higher on the upside here with, this LIST

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Speaker 2: specifically so i. Totally UNDERSTAND that but i see a

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Speaker 2: guy who's going TO get around, nfl offensive LINEMAN get

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Speaker 2: around nfl, defense of lineman and Build that CALLOUS and

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Speaker 2: again i see a guy that, could be something could

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Speaker 2: be a starting player at some point if he's within,

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Speaker 2: the right environment. If, he develops now those, are big

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Speaker 2: ifts no. Doubt about it i'm willing. To ACKNOWLEDGE that

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Speaker 2: but i was really impressed with the mover and the athlete.

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Speaker 2: More than, anything all right let's crack.

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Speaker 1: The top ten now. He, got there yeah so this.

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Speaker 1: Is a manual how do you say? That last, Name?

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Speaker 1: YOU think jason i would, say pray.

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Speaker 2: Gone, Pray gon yeah so he's A, guard FOR oregon

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Speaker 2: and i was a little bit hit or miss, on

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Speaker 2: this guy BUT the more, i watched HIM the more.

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Speaker 2: I liked him he's like kind of a boxy. Kind

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Speaker 2: of guy, he's six' five, he's three, twenty five like big,

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Speaker 2: kind of barrel chested kind of a lot of. Weight

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Speaker 2: in the, GUT not bad, weight i would say but

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Speaker 2: kind of like a strong man. Or powerlifter type build and.

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Speaker 2: He's got good footwork he's got great snap on. Like

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Speaker 2: poles and stuff he kind of rolls his hips real

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Speaker 2: nice and kind of he reminds me A Lot Actually,

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Speaker 2: of jackson powers johnson just kind of In terms of

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Speaker 2: that bill, just like.

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Speaker 1: A strong big, SpongeBob, yeah, that's right big. Big muscled up.

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Speaker 2: SpongeBob that's EXACTLY right and so i don't think he's going.

431
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 2: TO be for everybody i don't think he's going to

432
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 2: be like a. Great OUTSIDE zone guard but i think

433
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 2: if you get him in a gap heavy, kind of

434
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 2: you know, DOWNHILL running attack group i think he's going.

435
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 2: TO do really well i think he's got enough foot

436
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 2: speed to get out on screens do some. Stuff there

437
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,440
Speaker 2: for you but he's, a little bit developmental but definitely

438
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 2: More Established, than like, Isaiah WORLD for example and i

439
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 2: think there's a role for him at the. Next, level

440
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 2: right away again foot speed's a, little UP and down

441
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 2: but i like to. Snap in his body the explosiveness

442
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 2: and the. Short area is there sometimes again gets a

443
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 2: little bit sticky in terms. Of Passing off, stunts but i'd,

444
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 2: say on the whole very impressed with this film and

445
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 2: impressed with the consistency with which He, played with, all right?

446
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 1: Number NINE number nine should i go? Nine to six

447
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 1: here or how do you? WANT to do that i thought,

448
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: you already read? Nine didn't YOU know. Oh yeah I Did.

449
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm off jennings dunker so he's the guy that, if

450
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 2: you've seen him he's got like the mullet and the

451
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 2: mustache and looks like THE most prototypical stereotypical.

452
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: Nfl network's gonna love Him at the, com oh My

453
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: gosh gonna love they're gonna there's gonna be a lot

454
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 1: of slow.

455
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: Mill of him running so he PLAYS, Right tackle at

456
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 2: iowa and he's the only guy right now that WE'VE

457
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: gone through that i think might be playing a DIFFERENT position.

458
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: At the nfl level so.

459
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: He played right, tackle he's six' five he's three point,

460
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 2: fifteen looks the part man. GOT thirty four inch arms

461
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 2: I Thought actually crushed the senior. Bowl when he played,

462
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 2: TACKLE there are some limitations i think to. His hip

463
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 2: flexibility and mobility he's kind of like a so usually

464
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 2: you want to see guys the playoffensive line that are

465
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 2: a little bit i'm gonna say, knock need as the

466
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 2: word like their kind of knees. Or tighter to their

467
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,719
Speaker 2: frame their feet are outside of their knees so they

468
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 2: can stop and.

469
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: Change direction on.

470
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 2: High level he is a very much a knee over,

471
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 2: his foot type of player and there seems to be

472
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 2: a little. Bit Of, hip tightness, there but jason my

473
00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 2: goodness does this dude just love playing football, and is

474
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: just a physical get after. You son of a gun

475
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 2: absolutely like he, gets his hands on. You he runs

476
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 2: his feet there's enough athleticism there again despite that kind

477
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: of unusual body. Position in the lower half and dude

478
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 2: just Loves ball and they're, really they've coached Him. REALLY

479
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: really well at iowa i think he probably could play

480
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: tackle in a. Pinch IF you had to but, i

481
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: think he his home his forever home will be guard and.

482
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 2: ON somewhere on the interior i thought he did a

483
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: great job specifically in The Run drills at the senior

484
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: bowl in terms of getting hat placement and then being.

485
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: Physical with the hat placement there's sometimes where it's, like

486
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: a little bit lateral. It's a little bit flat, he's

487
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: working through the. Landmark driving that hat forward he's, got

488
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 2: the enough foot speed enough raw athleticism to get.

489
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 1: Where he's, got, TO go AND yeah man i just i.

490
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 2: Really like this football player he's not HIGHER on the

491
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: list because i think there are. Some ATHLETIC limitations with him,

492
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 2: but i love, the length love, THE compete love the.

493
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: Toughness i love the intellect like, when you watch the

494
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: film he understands or. Runs needed to be targeted he

495
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: understands where his body needs. To be to get there

496
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: there are Some Guys, that are, like isaiah world for

497
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 2: example who struggles with that nuance to.

498
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: The position into the, Game.

499
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: HE does not that and i just he reminds Me

500
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: A Little BIT like cody mock and i think as,

501
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: we go through the, process if he runs well he

502
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 2: could be a bottom of, the first half type.

503
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: Guy first, ROUND type guy excuse me, i love it, all, right,

504
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: let's do. Nine, eight seven and six yeah that makes

505
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,239
Speaker 1: get us.

506
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: Up, to the top five yeah so this is where

507
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: you're going to kind of start hearing some names that

508
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: are probably more household for you in terms of, you

509
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: FOLLOW follow draft stuff and i just want. To point,

510
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: something out, here, so basically the nine eight seven are

511
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: guys that are pretty locked, in and ready to go

512
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: and the guys at, six and five for me are

513
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: guys that, Are really, high upside place like okay so.

514
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 1: Let's let's break those apart then let's, do, those three that,

515
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: are like as you said for the for as much

516
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: as a prospect can be ready to go for you. And, the,

517
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: others upside place Yeah okay.

518
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: So let's do caleb lowmove He's the left tackle. FROM

519
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: utah's number seventy one. I like him a lot i think.

520
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: HE'S got great foot speed i think he understands. Like

521
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: leverages and pass pro the one Thing about watching both

522
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: these utah offensive lineman spoiler they're both on this list.

523
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: Is they are they're in.

524
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 2: A really run Heavy System, so just like, jennings dunker

525
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: really run heavy so you don't get to see them

526
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 2: kind of in these isolated. Pass, pro opportunities, that much

527
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: like for example, like it's third and ten like they're,

528
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: going to run a, draw it's third and eight they're,

529
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: going to run a screen and so they're not. Really

530
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: exposed the same way AND so that's something that i

531
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: had our. Time WITH both of them but i, love

532
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: kind of you understand you, can tell he's really solid

533
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: really well coach understands the pass pro Line got good,

534
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: enough Feat So, for example not david bailey but The

535
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: Other defensive end from texas tech tried to hit, him

536
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: on a spin move was able to kind of redirect

537
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: Inside Catch. That, thing versus texas tech right THERE are

538
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: some times where i wonder. About, his total place strength

539
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: right his like is like he, gets a little bit high.

540
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: Gets A little bit disinterested but i, really LIKE the

541
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: overall athlete and i think HE'S better put together than,

542
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to say like the, play strength was

543
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: a concern but, He's he's well put together like it's.

544
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 2: Not LIKE a glaring issue so i think he's. A

545
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: very very solid prospect he reminded me of Me a little.

546
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: Bit Of wiley this year andrew wiley kind of like

547
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: a good athlete could probably add a little. Bit of

548
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: bulk to himself maybe is, a better guard long term

549
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: but that kind of mover where he's like, quick in.

550
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: THE short area understands angles i think he's A, better

551
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: pass protective than wiley but.

552
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: REALLY really just solid prospect i, THOUGHT it's interesting because. Hey,

553
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: i actually watched him. Okay SO here you go so.

554
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: I hear EVERYTHING you're saying here's. What i thought about

555
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: him when you were talking about he. GETS a, little

556
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: bit high i thought he like does a really good job,

557
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: with power off the edge and he once he gets

558
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: set and, like gets that solid posture it's hard. To

559
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: MOVE him off that so i hear. What you're saying

560
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: about strength but, once he gets, that locked. HE'S not

561
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: moving right is i think he's very, good once he gets,

562
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: there IF that makes sense and i think he has.

563
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: The technique to do that like he's HE was very,

564
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: LIKE when i, watched, him i was, LIKE man, at,

565
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: least initially i thought Oh Maybe. He's Better than spencer

566
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: final spencer finals is getting, all the pub but?

567
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: LIKE is This Guy.

568
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Better i think spencer, final is a better athlete, which

569
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: is why he's. Yeah Further Up the list but caleb.

570
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: Lomou don't get it twisted Is. A very solid, f yeah,

571
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: he's got.

572
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: Tools yeah yeah and and great movement skills right like

573
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: what you Were, talking about like with wiley like the

574
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: ability TO swing and move. AND i did really well

575
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: i actually, wrote down here that like if you're a

576
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: relatively pass heavy offense that likes to pull, tackles every

577
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: now and then might be. A Nice little, fit, here

578
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: so i'm thinking Like we don't know what washington offense is,

579
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: going to Be Next, year but with cliff piece he

580
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: could fit here because it's a little bit not, that

581
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: we're past heavy here but good pass protection and if

582
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: YOU want to do, a gt something like that he's

583
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: he's got. The.

584
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: He's ready to go yeah and they do a Lot.

585
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: Of THAT stuff, at utah, like i said run, Heavy

586
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: the movements are great like they. Run a lot outside

587
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: zone he. Understands LEVERAGE and hat placement like. I really

588
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: like the player i just think there's other guys that,

589
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: have maybe slightly higher ceilings which is why. They're higher

590
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: on the list so the Next Guy for Me. Is

591
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: blake miller, from clemson he's six.' five he's three Point

592
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 2: fifteen i think he is he held like the record

593
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: for All like for consecutive starts at. Clemson or something

594
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: crazy like that. He's a former high school wrestler. He's got.

595
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: Thirty five inch arms, he is he, is a nasty

596
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: nasty human. Being like he. LOVES to finish he can run.

597
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: I think he's got good feet he's, a little, bit

598
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: uh you, know duck footed like towed out so. It

599
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: looks a little bit awkward. But he's quick to the.

600
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: ANGLE he's quick to the landmark i think IN past

601
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: bro like that's where i get, a little bit worried

602
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: about him because.

603
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: He is he's got long.

604
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: Arms you can see the length but he tends to

605
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: Like kind of, like headbutt like zadan that Guy Remember

606
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: the guy from the world cup head but the dude

607
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: and kind of try to bear hug you as a post,

608
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: like keeping you. Using his length keeping the length, but

609
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: in terms of football character, AT least based, On the

610
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: film i Love That like he's in the Jennings.

611
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: No one's gonna say that logan, paulsen doesn't love the

612
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: big nasty.

613
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: The big the big nasty man Like He, Reminds Me

614
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: of like Jennings junker like i'm gonna finish. I'm gonna

615
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: play through the whistle i'm gonna make you wish that

616
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: you would have, brought, another MOUTHPIECE to this game man

617
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: because i am going to make you rue the day

618
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: you chose, to play football for you know, whoever they're playing,

619
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: at the time like he. Is that's what he's built like, he,

620
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: reminds me a little Bit Honestly, body type wise of

621
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: will campbell. Like that type of body like he's a little.

622
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: Bit skinny in the. UPPER half he's got longer arms i.

623
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: Think he's got good foot speed he's a there's A Little,

624
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: bit more stiffness than will campbell which is why to

625
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: me he's like. A FRINGE first round type player. But

626
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: i loved watching the tape the pass pro is the

627
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: thing that, makes me a Little Bit, NERVOUS and much

628
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: like jennings dunker i could see him down the road

629
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: because of how aggressive he is in the run game

630
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: and the shortcomings as a. Feel in pass protection moving

631
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: inside but if you get him with the, right kind,

632
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: of coach and say hey man we don't need to be.

633
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Headbutting every single thing that, moves let's get a little bit,

634
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 2: let's let's use our arm. LENGTH let's keep some distance

635
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: here i think he could be definitely A. Starting, right

636
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: tackle in the nfl.

637
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah so you're saying you think he may be invested

638
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: in like a neck roll. Company trying to bring.

639
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: It back, he's, trying to, Bring it back Man for, sure, like,

640
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: he's he's i'm like dude like you don't need all, that,

641
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 2: Face mask on this block right and so there are

642
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: times where he's trying. To put his face on people

643
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: he'll get beat inside he's trying. To put his face on.

644
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: People GOOD beat to the edge but i do. Think,

645
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: HE'S got a good feel again i talked about the.

646
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: Pass protection line all the time he's got enough quickness

647
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: in his feet to get there and hold it. And

648
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't lose a lot but when he loses his

649
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: bad because. He's kind of lunged into it just we

650
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: need to get him, with, somebody, who's going to say.

651
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: Hey man let's use your, arms if They're thirty five

652
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: inches which, well i've read that they are that's exactly.

653
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: What you want to right tackle and he's got the.

654
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: Right KIND of mentality for.

655
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: It so i have. A thought experiment for you here, Kind,

656
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: of taking off like, this uh, he's nasty and aggressive and,

657
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: like just once once that contact would you and just,

658
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: speaking to how you evaluate? Things would, you rather have

659
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: that and, like instead of toning it down we're going

660
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: to redirect THAT towards technique or something that i have

661
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: a guy who has good technique and, is SET and

662
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: ready to go but i just need you. To be

663
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: a little more nasty is it easier to redirect and

664
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: nasty than? It is to, find the nasty.

665
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: The old say the old, adages you always want you

666
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: want you always want to say whoa rather.

667
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Than go right to a player and he, is, all? We,

668
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: got to say hey whoa hey slow? Down HERE a

669
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: little bit right. AND i love that about him i just.

670
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: That's like my kind of player and, the edge that

671
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: he plays with, THE violence that he plays with i

672
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: think is right in. Line, with what you're looking for,

673
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: again THERE'S some technical stuff here but i do think.

674
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: That you can get it corrected and like The stuff

675
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: you read about him clemson is that, he's a high

676
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 2: football character guy. First guy and last guy out like

677
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: the only reason he's not hired to me is because,

678
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: of this past pro technical issue which, For TACKLES can be.

679
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: FATAL unfortunately but i. Love, him i love the prospect

680
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: okay so let's then move on, to your other that

681
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: you say or the last of this group that, you

682
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: say is more ready made and then We'll. Get Into

683
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: these Kind.

684
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: Of yeah monroe, freeling from georgia, he's SIXTY seven he's

685
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: three ten and i actually think is a pretty gosh darn. Good,

686
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: mover for being six seven like he does. A great

687
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: job in, pass pro he uses his length, he gets his.

688
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: Hands out there he stuns. Guys he's pretty good IN

689
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: combinations there are times where i feel like he gets

690
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: to the second level where like. He does not, bend,

691
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: super well he's sixty seven.

692
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Right, He's a.

693
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: Little bit tall right he's like hitting guys at the

694
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: bottom of his face mask as opposed to his face.

695
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: Or the crown of his helmet and at the. Next

696
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: level that could Be problematic but the thing that, i've

697
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: always told myself is like if you see the ability to,

698
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: pass protect at a high level. You got to value that.

699
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: Guy YOU got TO value him and i. THINK i

700
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: see that with HIM i see a good feel. I

701
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: see a smart football player i see a guy that

702
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: can get. Out and run a little bit i'm trying to.

703
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: Think of a good comp Form he Reminds, me of

704
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: like berman or Bauman the guy that was from. Minnesota

705
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: a couple Of years ago he plays for He. Plays,

706
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: left tack for the colts now like he's a tall

707
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: athlete at the position that is going to need to

708
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: put on, a little bit, of add strength not necessarily

709
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: wait but ADDS strength because there's times where i see

710
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: him he gets a, little bit loose, in the core

711
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: not super tight gets push pulled a, little bit like

712
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: kind of again there's a looseness in his midsection for

713
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: that mid section strength. That kind of grinded out, strength

714
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: but the frame, is there THE movement skills. There the

715
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: football iq is there it's just can? He GET a

716
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: little bit stronger and i don't, think his play STRENGTH

717
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: is bad but, at the nfl, LEVEL versus longer more physical.

718
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Players i think it'll.

719
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: Be Exploited So, JUST disappointed comparison like blake miller i

720
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 2: think he's really locked in.

721
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: In the core are really.

722
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Tight you, can see the strength to me the technical

723
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: stuff there. Has kind of pushed him Down, So, With All,

724
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: These Guys, MINROE frieling blake miller kleb blomo i could

725
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: easily see them, if you. Want more ready made established

726
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: guys putting them in my in the, top, five of

727
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: the offensive tackles yeah AS opposed to the guys that.

728
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: I have in the top five. But they're really good

729
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: football players they, have they all. Have THEIR warts but

730
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: everybody does but i think those GUYS are really close.

731
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: To being, nfl starting offensive lineman all.

732
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Right LET'S talk about the next little, i don't want

733
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: to say tier but next little like group that you. Have,

734
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: here of your upside guys.

735
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah so these ARE he's upside guys, Like, AND i

736
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: might be, wrong Jason i Might be Wrong But. Max

737
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: iron ankor, from arizona state he's, six' five, he's three twenty.

738
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: Five former basketball player, former, soccer player he's got. Sweet

739
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: feet man his. Feet are fan he's three twenty five.

740
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: He looks like he's Three thirty Thirty he reminds me

741
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: of arma on, membu a little bit from last year like,

742
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: this kind of, not necessarily, big legs, but big. THIGHS

743
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: big chest powerful build great length i think he had

744
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: thirty four And A. Half inch arms at. The senior

745
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: bowl and he's incredibly raw, there's times where he's, like,

746
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: catching contact but that those feet man, those, Are feet

747
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: that get you paid right so, we like just, comparing

748
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: him like feelings got good, feet, But There are some,

749
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 2: limitations there right like miller Good Feet but There are

750
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: some limitations like Max Ein. Akor They were playing in texas,

751
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: tech david bailey's running a stunt right so. He takes

752
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: kind of a wide angle he does a spin move

753
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: And His, ability to kick set with david bailey who

754
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: is one of who is, my favorite pass rusher in

755
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: this class gets off the ball and then on the

756
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: spin to be able to reshuffle and. Catch like with

757
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: your feet are excellent there's a couple of Clips Where,

758
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: he's reaching a three technique hunter lee who's going to

759
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: be probably a, top five defensive tackle in this class

760
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: just RIPPING across his face like, It Was Nfl, athlete

761
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: every single day like, blake miller a, little bit limited,

762
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 2: athletically love the compete love, the toughness a little bit

763
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: limited athletically and real feeling there's, a, Little Bit of

764
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: a strength issue right, caleb blomu kind of everything works

765
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: together but what? Kind of top end athlete ARE you

766
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: and there for me, when i Watched This Guy. ON

767
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: film specifically, the texas tech GAME i was, like you

768
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: are an nfl player now he's, only been playing football

769
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: for three years. And there's a lot of Development There, we,

770
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: saw it at the senior bowl right, he's kind of keeping,

771
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: his hands down he's exposing, his chest but he's so

772
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: damn big. HE'S so damn good, with, his feet i

773
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: just was like like there's a there's another play where

774
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: they're runing a jet sweep and. HE'S out in front

775
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: and he's blocking I Got, shades shades now of like

776
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: trent williams trist like those guys. That can run and

777
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: move like that he's got. To get with the right,

778
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: Developmental coach but there's. What is it jason the planet

779
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: theory there's Only a couple of people on planet earth

780
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: that can. Run that way and at that, size and

781
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: so that's why.

782
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: For. Me he's in the top five yeah so you're

783
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: saying his movement skills when, it, comes to. His feet

784
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: a plus, oh like elite and then you're saying like.

785
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: His athleticism a plus right elite level so hands strength

786
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: or hands a, Chess opening like, ALL that's sees right

787
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: but you're LIKE i can work, on, that, because, I

788
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: got ELITE here yes right Yeah and so i.

789
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: THINK that's where I'M at with HIM i just like

790
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: i couldn't believe I Got because WE saw with, the,

791
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: senior bowl AND i was impressed Right But, then I

792
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: saw him play, texas tech and i was JUST. Like

793
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: this is THIS is an nfl this is, what nfl

794
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, move like, like top like top tier, top

795
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: ten top. Fifteen at The position move like this and,

796
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: so i'm going to take that shot and we're going

797
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: to say you are going. To be with our offensive, line,

798
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: coach you're gonna be eating. Breakfast lunch and dinner with

799
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: that guy we're going to figure out a way to,

800
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Get so you're striking with your hands you've got this,

801
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: great length to you like and again the fact that

802
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: he's blocking awesome pass rushers in college football with kind

803
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: of relatively poor technique is just a testament to. Literally

804
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: how good his his, feet, Dexterity and you can't coach.

805
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: That MAN you just cannot coach that so i cannot.

806
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Wait to, talk ABOUT your.

807
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: Number, four so again like i Could SEE there's probably

808
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: teams that have max i and acor and this next

809
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: guy on, the List Switch with These. OTHER guys but

810
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: CADEN proctor from alabama i told you, I on, THE

811
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: last show we did i said i have not Watched

812
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: More film on. Any player than cayden proctor, this year

813
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: i've watched every single game and there Are Game like,

814
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: IF you watch the florida state game i. Know that

815
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: that game's on YouTube someplace It's one of the worst. Games,

816
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: that i've seen any prospect, Have right he's like messing up.

817
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: Stunts We're, getting laid off, the ball but jason. He's six'

818
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: seven he's three sixty six it looks like he's closer

819
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: to four hundred pounds. Near the end a half of. The,

820
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: season like he looks enormous HIS ability like so, There's

821
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: A couple things, I want to say like. I watch

822
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: again i watched every single, game his ability at three.

823
00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: Seventy to kick slit and glide is. Tremendous like he

824
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: is a, Top, shelf athlete like he's pound for Pound

825
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: jason he might be the best. Athlete i've watched. So

826
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: far in the process like he's incredible like there's A

827
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: couple and this is the Thing that. I find really

828
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: frustrating about this, alabama offense is there a heavy gap scheme, downhill,

829
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: running team and he's good. At that right he CAN

830
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: do that stuff but the thing that i love is

831
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: when they run like a. Boot and he's, running, To

832
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: reach the edge You see it right there's a clip

833
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: versus tennessee where he's pulling to the perimeter and he's

834
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: out running a corner who's, one Hundred and, EIGHTY pounds

835
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: to the spot and. I'm like i want him Doing

836
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: that more he caught a screen.

837
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: Versus. Georgia that he ran for.

838
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: Fifteen yards like he, is a athletic freak the way

839
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: he bends the way. He can, get into his hips

840
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: Is tremendous so again why is? He number why is

841
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: he not number one. THERE'S a lot of inconsistency to

842
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: his game i think a lot of people get, a

843
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: little bit concerned about his pass. Set THE short edge

844
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: of his pass set, what I would Say to those,

845
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: PEOPLE is if i'm the alabama offensive coordinat i need

846
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: to talk to. That guy because you are in, the

847
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: gun you're taking a five step drop so your last.

848
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Step is eleven yards away from the ball THERE is

849
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: not a single team in the nfl and very few

850
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: teams in college that will do that because you are.

851
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Stressing your offensive line To The millionth degree So he

852
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: talked about kleb, lomu, and how utah kind of, insulates

853
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: Him Right some of these, other, schools like caden PROCTOR

854
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: is out there man he is doing Nfl STUFF and

855
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: they are really stressing about and i also. Feel LIKE

856
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: they didn't really refine HIS technique and, i thought about

857
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: it and i was like this is like the third

858
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: or Fourth. Offensive, Line coach he's had while at alabama

859
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: right so one thing they do is you can tell

860
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: they have a hard time with the cadence because there's

861
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: times where they snap the. Ball and the entire offensive

862
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: line is late. Like that happens multiple, times, in a

863
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 2: game so people are like well why is he getting?

864
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: Why, he why are people attacking.

865
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: His edge well everyone's, laid off the football but when

866
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: he's like will, go if you. Want to see A

867
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: game it's on YouTube go, WATCH the tennessee game. Where

868
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: that edge rusher i forget his name he will be a.

869
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: Top hundred pick for a, lot, of people, he looks

870
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: in total control power, the strength, he's moving, people off

871
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: the ball he's. Running he's pulling, HE'S doing everything you

872
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: want so to ME i just, got to a point

873
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: where i was like this. Is one of the best athletes.

874
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: In football this is a total upside play, He's he

875
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: played the entire. Season this, year, JASON at, nineteen years

876
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: old oh?

877
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah oh i.

878
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: KNOW are you kidding Me Like he's nineteen i, just

879
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: think if bill callahan was still coaching he. Would be crying, wanting,

880
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: to draft this guy and people Say? Oh IS he

881
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: the same as jac Latham so i went back and

882
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: watched jac latham film just. To see his foot speed

883
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: and FOOT. Dexterity. Is a million times better than Jayc Latham.

884
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: It's a million, TIMES better than evan neil SO to

885
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: me i look at, this AND i say to Myself

886
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: Like that if i have a if jeff Stalin, WAS

887
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: still the old line coach in philly i would Be

888
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 2: Drafting him. To, play right TACKLE when lane johnson left.

889
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Like that's what i think of this, guy if if

890
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: you have the right ecosystem he's. A strong veteran presence

891
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: in the. Line room he's a strong old. Line, Coach,

892
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: but this guy could BE special okay okay.

893
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: A COUPLE of things i want, to say cuz i

894
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: watched him. M, hm And this Is my number one

895
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: okay now i'm gonna. I'm gonna cavey out a. Couple

896
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: of minutes this, is MY number. ONE you laugh at

897
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: me but i did i, do, Have, The red flags that,

898
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: You HAVE right, like i'm not ignoring those like i said. Gets,

899
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: caught with speed sometimes off. THE edge interesting you. Said

900
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: the ball thing i didn't notice that. I'm going to go,

901
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: back and Watch it the ball snap right, getting off

902
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: you have a story about That, like, getting off one

903
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: of the snap.

904
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: Well YES like, tell, me THAT real quick so, I

905
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: remember yeah when I Was, a rookie i, was here

906
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: and chris cooley who's my, guy came, up to me

907
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: and was like hey man? Why ARE you getting, off

908
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: the ball late and i was like what, Are, you,

909
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: Talking about. Getting off the ball like, well i'm not

910
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: i'm getting off ON time Like it's, the, set, Hout

911
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: and i go he's like no come and so he

912
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: went to the film, room and, he did the whole

913
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: play pause, play pause and, it's moving frame by frame,

914
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: frame by frame and all Of A sudden it's like everybody's,

915
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: moving and logan paulson is, just STILL dead just, DEAD

916
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: in HIS stance and.

917
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: I was like i guess i am late. I'm making.

918
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: This a, little harder on Myself You know he's like

919
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: go talk to, casey rybakho was the center at the.

920
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: Time AND ask him when he's snapping it so i

921
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: go Down There and it's like him, and like, will

922
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: montgomery and, some other. Guys you know, shooting, talking shop

923
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: talking snaps and he goes, Actually so, the. Cadence WAS

924
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: white eighty white ady said hut so I was going on, hut,

925
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: like any good american child would do right and he goes.

926
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: Actually SNAP it on the s of set. So i

927
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: was A full, like beat. Late and at THE nfl level,

928
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,959
Speaker 2: that's CRAZY and so when i see again when i Watch,

929
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: some of The, guy like Watch. The freelings watch the

930
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: millers watch the, lomus they they're they're. Locked INTO the

931
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: Cadence they're READY to go when i watched procter And,

932
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: i watched the other offensive lineman from alabama there's something

933
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: going on there with the cadence, that is getting THEM all.

934
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: On different LEVELS you know what i mean and so i,

935
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: THINK if you can get that cleaned up i think if.

936
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: You get him, to punch with his hands like right,

937
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: now he's doing a little bit of catching like he's

938
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 2: he's looping. His outside hand and, undercutting his inside, hand

939
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: it should be switched in my opinion you should be

940
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: latching inside hand punching with the outside hand. So you can, anchor,

941
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: a little bit better because. Somebody like oh it's. ANCHOR

942
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: for three seven he's not that great, i think if you. Clean, up,

943
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: HIS hands HE'S going to, be okay, anyway, i, got,

944
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: I digressed there.

945
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: Going yeah okay yeah. No i'm a little, worried about,

946
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: his stamina. That's the other day right conditioning, right, Conditioning

947
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: but he's going to get there. Man like someone's going to.

948
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: Work with him he's going to, be great. HERE'S why

949
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: he's my Number One all right i. CALLED him an

950
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: amarus mims like project.

951
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: DUDE i, READ, that in, your notes and i thought

952
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: i no. KIDDING had that, written down in mind too

953
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: I was like that's kind, of what you're.

954
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: He's not built THE same. LIKE they're. Not that's not,

955
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: what i mean i mean it's just like, you are

956
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: this freak that is so young and you. Can be

957
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: you still. Have room to grow, you're already THIS dominant

958
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: it's like if so the reason i have HIM number

959
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: one overall is NOT saying that I would draft him if,

960
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: i were The gm, of THE whatever's right like my

961
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: madden team that i would. Draft him as THE number

962
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: one offensive lineman? So why would I put him number

963
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: one it's clearly just i think over time he, may

964
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: BE the best OUT of this class so i would,

965
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: HAVE i would think that because, all, RIGHT i have no.

966
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: STAKE in anything. Right I don't know anything i have

967
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: Nothing so I'm, looking at this as if i'm on

968
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: madden which maybe is a dumb way to have a

969
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: podcast right where, you're, looking at it through THE eyes

970
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: of well what an actual. Real nfl team has with,

971
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: ALL the nuances i'm being. Honest with you i, ain't,

972
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: looking at that i'm just looking at man take. The

973
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: guy here THAT could be the best so. That's why

974
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: i have him at number one that's not to say

975
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: that in real world. That Should how be how it

976
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: shakes out but i'm gonna fight, for THIS guy if

977
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: anybody ask about. Him because i have? New? STAKE in anything.

978
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: DOES that make sense.

979
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: Yeah i think so a good thing, to illuminate, your

980
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: Point Even further, is So for Example on daniel jeremiah's.

981
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: List. Like, Miller and freeling are.

982
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Above him yeah right but, WHEN you get to his

983
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 2: little write up i think he's got, him as twenty

984
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: six twenty six. Best player so obviously a First Round player,

985
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: when you, get to, his caden proctor's description he's, like

986
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: you know there are some weight, issues there's some late

987
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: stuff with the snap, like, all the stuff that. We

988
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: can see, right there's some hand whatever but he's like

989
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: this player, has the potential to be the best blocker past. Protector,

990
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: and run blocker in this entire. Class yeah And That's,

991
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: exactly what you're saying so like, daniel jeremiah who is

992
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: in the scouting COMMUNITY he's talking to scouts like, He's

993
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: AND i see it the. SAME way like i feel

994
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: very aligned now i THINK the interesting thing about this

995
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: Exercise Is, i, am valuing that more than daniel jeremiah

996
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: right because he's the third guy or fourth on my list.

997
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: Right AS opposed to the sixth or. Seventh but i

998
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: just it's.

999
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: Like a lottery it's, like IT could be it's pretty

1000
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: good now and i think it could be really. Really, good,

1001
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: Given THE right environment for him yeah.

1002
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: Absolutely and i mean the thing about ranking right when

1003
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: you the draft is. Everybody, wants to make. The draft

1004
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: like vertical yeah but it's not. It's very horizontal when

1005
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: you look. At it it's not linear, in THAT sense

1006
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: so when we, DO rankings when i make rankings OF

1007
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: players i view it differently than when i start making

1008
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: tiers or even. Predicting A draft board so or mock

1009
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: drafting so i'm, going, To put him As my number one.

1010
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: Right that's just what i'm. Going to do as far

1011
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: as o line that doesn't Mean when a Mock draft

1012
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: comes around. THAT i'm on that i'm taking them there

1013
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: i have to look at all the other factors in

1014
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: the context with That pick at that, SPECIFIC time that

1015
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: when i'm just. Ranking somebody i just toss out. The

1016
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: wind i'm not even looking at that and, then The

1017
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: same thing with a, Tier system like i'll put tiar

1018
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: systems together i'm no longer looking at is? This, person

1019
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: one spot better than? This ONE no just are you this,

1020
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: group if i think. You're in this Group you're in

1021
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: this tier there's no one so there's a lot of,

1022
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: ways that you can organize all these prospects and then

1023
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: on draft day you want to look at. All of

1024
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: that together with, the whole context and that's what gms

1025
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: do and that's Why they're way smarter than just a guy,

1026
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: jason or the average guy on the couch because, we're

1027
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: not putting when we do this stuff we're not putting all.

1028
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: THIS context, that needs to be put in i mean

1029
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: gms are crazy with all the information that they have

1030
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: to the data they have to Bring in and then

1031
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: make one selection over. It's LIKE that's over sensory overload,

1032
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: for ME so i just keep it. Simple and i

1033
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: love what this guy has what. He could be nineteen

1034
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: years old. This season he's twenty, years old right now

1035
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: like you're telling, me he's going to get bigger and

1036
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: stronger right that frame is gonna FAIL more to lean.

1037
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: Out a little b i would assume too and. Then

1038
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: you can technically think on.

1039
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: Through puberty like it's just a crazy thought, it's a

1040
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: CRAZY thought, when you watch, HIM and so, i think

1041
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: Like For me I was thinking like if, i'm chicago

1042
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 2: and i need a left tackle you.

1043
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: Know you've got your your right tackle.

1044
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: Who they, drafted a Couple of years ago you know

1045
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: if you're detroit, and you Need like a stud you

1046
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 2: know backup because decker's leaving and You've got this great

1047
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: offensive line culture, you're philadelphia like with this great offensive

1048
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: line like and then those, are the, types of guys

1049
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: you're looking for these big hulking road graders like that.

1050
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: Just, feels like a perfect fit for him man we

1051
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: spent a, lot of time on THE year number four

1052
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: but he's the most i think. It's, FAIR to say he's,

1053
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: The most EXCITING.

1054
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah i think it's him and then i, think the

1055
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: top two GUYS are exciting, too, but he's the most

1056
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: i think POLARIZING controversial with the highest, Upside, Is what

1057
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 2: i would say there too.

1058
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: Okay like, i'd say most exciting in the sense of.

1059
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: LIKE he's, just fun to, TALK about it i mean.

1060
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: It's it's well i can get Juiced up you, Sill

1061
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: tell me.

1062
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: Something about feldman's freaks, list like he has like he's two,

1063
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: seventy he's got a thirty three inch vertical, he's got,

1064
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: like a nine, foot broad jump he's squatted he's.

1065
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: You know like he's he, is a freak and as you.

1066
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: JUST said, like, biology, isn't Done with it. I know.

1067
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah right, just, Nature's not done it's crazy it's.

1068
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: Crazy man tombin's gonna Be big for him, Like talk

1069
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: about something i'm excited, to see like see him at

1070
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: the combine, See him move around like yeah for sure?

1071
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 2: Like what, kind of, shape is he in like anyway

1072
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: All Right.

1073
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: Three tow so. Three is olivenga e. LAWNE lawne nailed it,

1074
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: oh There we go i have no idea. But i'm

1075
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna that's assume. That that's right you said It With.

1076
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: Conviction so he plays. Guard for.

1077
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: Penn state, he's like six two he's not, very tall

1078
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 2: he's like sixty two sixty three but he's. Got long

1079
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: arms and he's like. Three forty he's A big old

1080
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: hoss man and uh and i think the thing, is, talk,

1081
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: about just, a solid football player physical, nasty great technique

1082
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: uses his, Length well right like they're, passing off stunts

1083
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: he'll stab, the three technique keep, it nice and flat

1084
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: receive the defensive. End push that guy, out to the,

1085
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: tackle he's got good feet he gets good good bend

1086
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: and pad. Level and really drives, People OUT of there

1087
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: from a guard standpoint, like i, KNOW people don't like

1088
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: guard value per se i think. He could be a

1089
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: top fifteen pick man Like He, just seems like take

1090
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: him from penn state HE. Will, Start FOR most, teams,

1091
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: in the nfl right so I think like, that's, that's

1092
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: kind of how, i view it honestly.

1093
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: Love it all right two and one for you push would,

1094
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: have been my three and. Two so FAR right are

1095
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: the same order and then i would say that the

1096
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: national consensus is in agreement that these guys are kind of.

1097
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: One and two right in some. If, Not the lowest they're.

1098
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: Going is four right so. They're up there, let's, let's

1099
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: talk about.

1100
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: Him Let's Go through Yes, help them up, so spencer fano,

1101
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: from utah number fifty five he's six'. Five he's three

1102
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: three is what, he's listened at, and, he looks thin

1103
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: on film and people say. Look well you've just been talking.

1104
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: ABOUT play, Strength You've been talking about this stuff i?

1105
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: Mean max? Anchor is number what, is he Five for

1106
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: me because. Of his feet this dude fino has ballerina feet,

1107
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: my guy like his ability, to run on, screens run

1108
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: to the second level his. Past, protection ability to pass,

1109
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: stuff off the interior again. The HANDS aren't perfect, but,

1110
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: the footwork is, tremendous And i was like man he's

1111
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: really light but he's one of those guys that's light

1112
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: but understands, how to access his hips when he receives.

1113
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: Pressure Hop TO stop readirect bullrushes versus power rushers man

1114
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: like i. Was again just QUITE frankly blown away by

1115
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: him there is, a i worry a little bit about the.

1116
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: Frame LIKE it's a little, bit concerning to, me but

1117
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: i get take. Him work them out develop. THAT a

1118
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 2: little bit he's going to keep growing i, definitely see

1119
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: Why people are so.

1120
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: High on him and. Obviously i'm high on him he's

1121
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: my number. Two.

1122
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: But that athleticism is the, thing that plays man you're.

1123
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: Looking for big athletes he's A big explosive Athlete watching,

1124
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: him pull on the gt stuff, that utah does watching

1125
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: him get out on screens and, his ability to stay

1126
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: connected at the second, level at the first level to cut.

1127
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 1: Guys. OFF it's it's big time stuff from him, yeah

1128
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: i think he's. Just solid all around me solid in,

1129
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: all aspects and? He does look a little, small doesn't

1130
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: he right like.

1131
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: He just looks it but he might, be fine and

1132
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: again a guy at the combine You want to see the,

1133
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: body because like, well, campbell was was he. WAS he

1134
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: was narrow shouldered HE had short, arms i don't feel

1135
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: that when. I watch him he just looks thin. To

1136
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: me he just looks like a thin guy and that's,

1137
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: crazy to say for a. Guy who sixty, five three

1138
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: hundred and three pounds but you know the, guys we,

1139
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 2: Were Just talking about are three fifteen three twenty caden

1140
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: procter three Seventy Maybe even. FOR like there, were points,

1141
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: on caden procter's taper i, Was, like, no way you're not.

1142
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: Four hundred pounds like. Yeah you're a huge person it

1143
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: just it's different, and so my only question with him

1144
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: is like CAN you handle the strength of some of

1145
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: these nfl, add rushers and then can you maintain this

1146
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: elite elite athleticism with some of the? WEIGHT you're going

1147
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: to have to, Gain, TO play i think, at the next.

1148
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: Time yeah i mean right now he moves. Almost like

1149
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: a tight end right in, that body and as, far

1150
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: as his, past season he, played twelve games zero sacks

1151
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: allowed zero hits. Allowed with only five, hurries Twelve In

1152
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: twelve games.

1153
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: And so you know, like david bailey got after him

1154
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: a little bit but the footwork and the athleticism to

1155
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: compete to like stay in, front and fight and like

1156
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 2: it's not always picked, Like it's like when you take a,

1157
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: picture everything like that's not a great pass set but

1158
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: like his athleticism Allows Him to stay in, the fight

1159
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: make and david bailey is a freak and so for

1160
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: him to be able to, kind of Play that, Dance

1161
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: with him Is. Incredible like athletically chef's kiss cream of.

1162
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: The crop really excited about him as a. Prospect just,

1163
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,479
Speaker 2: the frame is somewhat, concerning, To.

1164
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: Me All Right, and your, number one.

1165
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: Yeah francis Guy Maui noah Excuse. Me Not my young

1166
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: guy maui noah from miami so. I've seen a bunch

1167
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: of different weights, for him i've, seen Him listed at

1168
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: six six three thirty five but. I've also seen him

1169
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: at six five three fifteen so getting the actual weight.

1170
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: For him is going to be interesting to me he

1171
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 2: looks like a three thirty five guy just. IN terms

1172
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: of how, big his LOWER half is i really LOVE him.

1173
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: LIKE he's I think of the guys i watched i

1174
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: just i, have a grade where it's like a confidence

1175
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: GRADE where, It's like confidence he could be an nfl player.

1176
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: AND my confidence. WITH him is Like a nine i

1177
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: think that i. Don't think i've, Graded a player higher

1178
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: than that like. His footwork he's got a really graceful

1179
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: Kick Set, it's not as big or dynamic. As spencer

1180
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: fano it's a little bit more Vertical There's, a more,

1181
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: verticality to it. Than like caden proctor for example But,

1182
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: great footwork he's a four year starter at miami so you,

1183
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: talk about like just knowing, A PASS rush line like

1184
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: he's on the. Line so i don't, worry about him

1185
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: that much like with. The redirection because he's very rarely

1186
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: out of position he's got, great strength to envelop guys

1187
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: in the run game his ability to roll. Hips and

1188
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: kind of redirect at the next level it's. Much different

1189
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: than any other prospect in. The class the combination of

1190
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: size and foot speed He Reminds, me A Lot of

1191
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: the guys the. Bear draft the bear draft a, Couple

1192
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: years ago if you talk. For, A second, i'll get

1193
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: his name real quick.

1194
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah i mean just to. Give you a picture of

1195
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: what he looks like he's built like a refrigerator that

1196
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: moves around, like out there like he's just thick, and

1197
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: DENSE and He has a. Massive lower half which i

1198
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: think anchors really. Well his arms, to, me look a little,

1199
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: SHORT he's super strong, right he has nice feet i

1200
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: said to. Me he looks like he may, be pretty

1201
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: smart and maybe this is the experience really really good

1202
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: at catching stunts and passing him off and to be able.

1203
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: To key in on the correct blitzer very rare does.

1204
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: He target the wrong blitz when it's. Coming in so, Maybe,

1205
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: that's the experience coming in but it's like okay you

1206
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: got a guy who understands what the defense. Is trying

1207
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: to do. And, isn't playing Catch up he's aggressively attacking

1208
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: that yeah and SO.

1209
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 2: I'm really glad you brought. That up because I think

1210
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: that's an interesting point And The. Player i was trying to,

1211
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: remember was darnell wright is some of these guys, the

1212
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: guys That, have A little Bit more experience, Like the

1213
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: freelings the millers obviously mauiinoa excuse me like you can

1214
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: tell they played. A lot of ball because of that blitzing,

1215
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 2: Thing Like there's Times When you're watching you know iron

1216
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 2: anchor or caleb Procter Or some of these other guys

1217
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: with what's isaiah world where. You're like they don't know

1218
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: exactly what's going on. They're, just surviving because they're big

1219
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: and athletic dudes right you.

1220
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: Can see the split. Second indecisions AND their.

1221
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: Body gets out of Position and so i will say

1222
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: this about the miami guy is he has what is

1223
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: widely considered to. Be the best offensive line coach in

1224
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: college football and that, definitely shows up on tape with that,

1225
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: entire group like the way, that they set together the way,

1226
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: they see things the way. They get things communicated the

1227
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: way they block STUFF so he is the he is.

1228
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: The MOST nfl ready player out of this group and

1229
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: i also think, there's, enough physical upside with him that

1230
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: you say oh there's still some. Some juice to be

1231
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: squeezed out of this prospect HE is the one Of The,

1232
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: top guys that i. WOULD say again kaden proctor maybe he's.

1233
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: A guard I, think you try and my, tackle i

1234
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: think mauinoa you try, and to tackle. But because of

1235
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: the arm, length maybe ends up, maybe he's. A solid

1236
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: tackle but is an excellent excellent guard so it'll be interesting.

1237
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: To SEE how they do That with this.

1238
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: Career but i would Definitely Start, tom tackle again he

1239
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: reminds me of darnel wright who very similar builds kind of,

1240
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: these big, refrigerator type body types and. The experience the

1241
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: understanding THE knowledge is definitely there and a guy, that i, think,

1242
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: WILL probably go probably top five you.

1243
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: Know, yeah i mean he's A high floor starter yeah

1244
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: like right. Away. With, i put the athleticism to, KEEP building.

1245
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: Yep right that's. A really, good description. I think yeah

1246
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 2: for sure.

1247
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: All right that's it, you want to, go, through that

1248
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: list real, quickly one more time. Thirteen, All The way

1249
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: down just list them Out.

1250
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah so, Frans Has been young, guy from Miami number

1251
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: one spencer fino Number two, Oliave Olijave alone Number, Three

1252
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: From pensades A guard Caden Proctor, From Alabama Max i And,

1253
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: Ancor From arizona State, More MONROE. Freeling from Georgia, Blake

1254
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: Miller from Clemson, Caleb B loomove from utah Jennings, dunker

1255
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: From Iowa emanuel pragon Yeah, Right From oregon guard Isaiah,

1256
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: world Tackle From oregon.

1257
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: Jack slator Center.

1258
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: From, florida and caleb turnin left tackle from northwestern okay

1259
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: we're going.

1260
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: To do our fastest, forty and. It's going to be

1261
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: about offensive, line all right when. It comes to their

1262
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: draft this is the question. You. Have forty seconds to

1263
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: answer it or less okay don't. Draft, A LUXURY piece

1264
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: until you've built your trenches okay so I think, we

1265
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: could look. Back to last year ashton genty great luxury

1266
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: piece are you? Ready In the trenches for a talent,

1267
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: Like him so. I'm saying all that to say washington's

1268
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: at seven maybe we feel. Comfortable with trenches in some

1269
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: areas and some? Knots are you ready to take, a

1270
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: luxury piece i'm not Saying answer that question but, That's

1271
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: kind of why i'm bringing this up right so don't draft.

1272
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: The luxury pieces? Until? You've built. Those trenches first are,

1273
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: YOU ready yep set go so.

1274
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: ON the whole i would generally agree with that i

1275
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: think you want to get really. TALENTED and physical and

1276
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: big on the, offensive LINE i think there are exceptions

1277
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: to that and i think a big reason those exceptions exist.

1278
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: Is because of the type of Scheme You, run so,

1279
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: if you look at like kyle shanahan for example he's

1280
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: been able to get by with lesser offensive. Line talent

1281
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: because they. Run all this play, action they insulate that group.

1282
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: But on the whole That Group is, Very solid you.

1283
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: Know they have.

1284
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: Trent Williams there they've got some really awesome pieces so

1285
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: i'd say one. Hundred percent agree with you, build those

1286
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: guys out there are some scheme. Exceptions but those are

1287
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: the exceptions out the.

1288
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: Rules, thirty two seconds more getting fast. Combines coming up but.

1289
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: You're stretching, OUT those handstrings you're ready to go all.

1290
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: RIGHT i want to, end this show real quickly i think.

1291
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: Moving forward we can end this show this way every

1292
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: time where we're gonna you're, gonna pick one person, just

1293
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: because we've been gone we've gone long. Already and the

1294
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: next show we'll, DO another, one so you'll get these

1295
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: guys out i promise but one person where, you've moved

1296
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: since we, first originally talked about them, whether higher or

1297
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: lower just your opinion about them your evaluation about them

1298
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: has changed. Drastically, Enough THAT you want to revisit it

1299
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: here yeah So I.

1300
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: THINK the first one for me is arvel reese i think,

1301
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: HE was a guy that in our edge ranking i,

1302
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: had him like kind of middle of the, group maybe

1303
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: bottom like six, or, seven, On there and.

1304
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: You HAD them fifth fifth OKAY and so the More I.

1305
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: Watch, him Like i watched them versus penn state obviously

1306
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: When I'm watching the guard in the, tackle FOR penn

1307
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: state that we just, talked about, and i just, see

1308
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: the movement skills, the Physicality the strong hands his ability

1309
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: to close and i'm getting. More ON board, with, THE

1310
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: athlete and the prospect so, i think again.

1311
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: I still think there's a projection which.

1312
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: Makes me still reluctant To take him at two but hypothetically,

1313
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: if the commanders Were To take him at seven especially

1314
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: given the deronte jones defense that, they're going to be

1315
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: running here where it's flexibility we need off ball.

1316
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: Players that can.

1317
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: Play on ball and vice versa, like he's starting TO win,

1318
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: me over and again the more, film i watch the,

1319
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: more athletic, flashes you see. The stronger THE hands the

1320
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: lockouts the closing speed and again. I don't think he's

1321
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: a true off, Ball PLAYER i think he's more of

1322
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: an edge But I think about Him In, that Kind of, van,

1323
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: ginkel role for dronte jones and. I'm like man it's

1324
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: seven that dexterity. Would be i'm getting more on board.

1325
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: With, that, you're, Starting, to, see it a. Little bit

1326
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: yes correct yeah yep as we're going DO you think

1327
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: he participates, with the comin if i was, in my

1328
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: wood because. Unless you're gonna run slow don't do it

1329
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: well can? You? DO other things and then just not

1330
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: run yeah.

1331
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: I THINK you could jump AND do, your jumps and

1332
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: i think from what i understand like your guys trying,

1333
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: to get the buzzes about how guys are training and it,

1334
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: sounds like he's JUST gonna. Break the damn combine you

1335
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: know what i mean he's just. Gonna like have a

1336
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: crazy forty crazy, vertical jumps he's gonna test well. On

1337
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: the Field and, That shows up, on film, so if

1338
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: i'm him i'm gonna definitely you know put on my

1339
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: really tight shirt and my spandex and GO show. Everybody

1340
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: HOW jacked AND strong and fast i am but i

1341
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: think i would. BE concerned if he didn't have a

1342
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: good combine i think.

1343
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: Would, Be, the OTHER way TO look at? That gotcha

1344
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: okay can i. Can i do one i'd love it if, You,

1345
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm so curious you're gonna say right now okay i'm

1346
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: going to try and get this, out there before other

1347
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: people snipe it from me which you've already kind of,

1348
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: alluded to in a text thread that we had, so

1349
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: WE did the wide receivers the other day and i

1350
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: didn't talk. About this guy because. He's my, Fourteenth Wide

1351
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 1: receiver he may move up oh okay so i'm gonna

1352
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: watch More of, him BECAUSE no one's? Really? Talking About

1353
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: hi'm like am i Just Crazy, okay but i'm going

1354
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: To Talk About Bryce lance the wide reces from. North

1355
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: Dakota State University, sixty, three, Two Oh Nine So North

1356
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: dakota state brother YES. So, North. North dakota state is

1357
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: in the FCS. Yes, okay he had seventeen touchdowns in the,

1358
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: fcs OKAY so maybe competition wasn't all. That great but

1359
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: i can't scoff at seventeen touchdowns there's something to you

1360
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: that this last year he had twenty one point two.

1361
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: Yards per reception and sixteen quote unquote, deep catches that's

1362
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: Fifth in all of college football not JUST, d sixteen

1363
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: deep catches quote unquote according to pff, which, would be thirty,

1364
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: or more. Yards no kidding yes, Sixteen, of them so

1365
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: sick my dude was cooking okay and, he's doing this

1366
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: at six. THREE two oh nine, which, Is, Like your

1367
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: prototype i love that build right okay so.

1368
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Maybe we shouldn't talk. About him because we want Him

1369
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: to be THERE we.

1370
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: Want him to be so HERE'S what i. Wrote, i'm

1371
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: just gonna read what i about. Him, okay this might

1372
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: be a hidden. Gem here okay he has the. Perfect

1373
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: build logan, you're gonna hate. This about him little lazy

1374
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: blocking little lazy. Blocking, and, he's a bit slow with.

1375
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: An acceleration okay right that's kind of the, downpoint but,

1376
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: IF this combine goes well. For him my gush I

1377
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: am moving. HIM up the combine is. Gonna, I want,

1378
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: you i, Want to love you right. I'm like right

1379
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: there i'm seeing him move. Around i'm, like looking at

1380
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: him across the. Bar i'm like look at that. Guy

1381
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: OVER there he just has all the, things if i. Can.

1382
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: Hold a conversation with him we're, going somewhere alright this

1383
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: analogy got a little weird but the point being is,

1384
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: That If he goes at, the combine. Shows well i'm

1385
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: i'm moving. Him up all right, he HAS really. Nice

1386
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: releases he works, stems well which i love, hands are

1387
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: just premiere barely drops the ball ever huge radius you

1388
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: could have imagine a quarterback play. Is not putting the

1389
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: ball on a dot there. It doesn't matter he can

1390
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: go get. The, ball he's catch it's an, elite level

1391
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,479
Speaker 1: catchability okay tracks the ball extremely well. And he does

1392
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: have Speed once, He gets there the acceleration is where i'm,

1393
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: concerned but once, that TOP end speed gets going he's

1394
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: got it and i. THINK that's going to, play AT

1395
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: the next level i have question. Marks but i think

1396
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: this guy second, round player if he's in let, me

1397
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: say this if he's in the. Third ROUND you might

1398
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: have a big time steal but i Think he's going

1399
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: to move up into that second.

1400
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: The way you Describe It, reminds me a little bit

1401
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: of like christian, watson the guy he's also from The

1402
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: Same school, went IN the First Round of green bay obviously.

1403
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: But, i love christian watson too. COMING out here.

1404
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah but that's kind of, fun i LOVE that and

1405
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: again For the reason the person i sent you was

1406
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: brugler's top one. Hundreds, came out and he was number

1407
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: ninety seven yeah So.

1408
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: You circled him and you're like, hair Because i've mentioned

1409
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: you haven't watched. Him, yet, but i've mentioned them to

1410
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: you twice, now yeah you check this guy, Even On

1411
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: them and before that list came out, so I'm trying,

1412
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: to get it out there because like i'm saying if he,

1413
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: performs well at the combine and, turn some heads it's like.

1414
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: Who is THIS guy then he's gonna move up, and

1415
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: THEN i think he's going to move up. And, I

1416
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: just want. To, BE the first THERE.

1417
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah i like it no i think that i like yours.

1418
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: BECAUSE you've but you haven't talked, about A lot i

1419
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: just haven't. Watched him yet so i'm looking forward to it.

1420
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: So maybe it's FOOLS gold because, he does have the.

1421
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: Thing that i don't like which IS the blocking also

1422
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: something there but. But but i.

1423
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: Think, he's a, smaller school guy sometimes those, guys are

1424
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 2: you know a level of competition increases you get. A

1425
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: little bit more competitive competitiveness out of, them you.

1426
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: Can see competitiveness. At the combine too even though there's

1427
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: no contact you can see guys who are. Like this

1428
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: is this is a competition for me. I'm not just

1429
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: here with my. BUDDIES running routes so we'll be able

1430
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: to TELL i think, once you get There.

1431
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: To see i an invite we got. To ACTUALLY we'll

1432
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: save that for a different show. Like i assume he

1433
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: will be, there comment invites that's coming, up here. Pretty

1434
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: soon so we'll get that FINALIZED all.

1435
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: Right so those are, my guys and i or that's

1436
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: my guy here. And then, We'll, do we'll do this

1437
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: every episode why good yeah because we're gonna. We're, gonna

1438
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: be adding people to. The list here yeah, let's do.

1439
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: It all right but in the meantime that's it h

1440
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: m hmmmmmmmm