Speaker 1: Welcome to Narrative Center with Danny Niffy. I'm Iffy way away.
Speaker 1: Danny is sitting this one out. She's been She's had
Speaker 1: quite an eventful weekend. You're doing the press junket for
Speaker 1: Bracket Ralph and you know, hanging out with all those
Speaker 1: celebs and all. Buddy Buddy, you know, didn't give me
Speaker 1: a ticket, But it's all bit, it's all good. I
Speaker 1: couldn't make it because I had blizz Con. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure if I didn't have blizz Con, she would
Speaker 1: have me up in the air or something like that.
Speaker 1: But in her stead, we have two people who were
Speaker 1: able to experience the con with me, and we'll be
Speaker 1: talking about a chatting and breaking it down, and that
Speaker 1: is Malika Limb and Naim Stewart. Hello. How are y'all doing? Hello? Everybody? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So we had one person who had a job offer
Speaker 1: from Blizzards. I'm not a job offer, but you got
Speaker 1: pretty close to the the light there, you got you
Speaker 1: had an interview. If I'm not mistaken, right, Yes, that's
Speaker 1: absolutely right. I'm Alika Limb again. I'm a game designer,
Speaker 1: game developer, occasional community manager and marketer for games. I
Speaker 1: also like to play games surprise surprise, and a while
Speaker 1: back I did try to get an internship at Blizzard
Speaker 1: on the Quest writing team. I don't know if I'm allowed.
Speaker 1: I'm always nervous to talk about my relationships with other companies. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll just stop there then and keep it safe. But
Speaker 1: I feel like that much is cool, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm still interested in collaborating that out there tuned in
Speaker 1: and and we have names Stewart Artists extraordinaire. I mean you,
Speaker 1: I mean he's a pro stippling. That's that's pretty much
Speaker 1: what he primarily does. Is he only does. I haven't
Speaker 1: done stip do you know what? You know what stipling is?
Speaker 1: Absolutely it's the dots. Yeah, pretty much. You explain it
Speaker 1: for the listeners. So pretty much you use ink dots,
Speaker 1: whether it be black or colored, and you will just
Speaker 1: create an image just using dots. That's what I did.
Speaker 1: I mean, I still do it. I haven't done it
Speaker 1: actually in a couple of months, probably to a year now.
Speaker 1: I've been focusing more on digital, uh, drawing digitally, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I just do all types stuff. But that was one
Speaker 1: of the things that uh, if you remember me doing
Speaker 1: when he first met me. So yeah, because you did
Speaker 1: like this huge piece for twitch coom right that Twitch
Speaker 1: Con show, and it was like this huge dwarf and
Speaker 1: it was amazing. We're gonna add it in the footnotes
Speaker 1: if you're listening and curiously what that looks like. But
Speaker 1: it's a real cool piece and it was like the
Speaker 1: like I knew of stifling, Like You've definitely kind of
Speaker 1: seen that art before, but I've never watched someone do it.
Speaker 1: And Naim used to stream himself literally just making dots
Speaker 1: on Twitch. Yeah. I would stream that late at night. Uh,
Speaker 1: started like around eight nine o'clock specific time, and just
Speaker 1: do that till five six in the morning and go
Speaker 1: and sleep and go to work. Yeah. I would probably
Speaker 1: sleep like three hours and go straight to work. So
Speaker 1: when you're stippling, how do you know you're making what
Speaker 1: you want to make? Like? How do you plan it
Speaker 1: out some way? When I did it, I pretty much
Speaker 1: had a simple image just sketched out, and then when
Speaker 1: I started stippling, I just let it go just when
Speaker 1: it three and then whatever comes with it, I make it.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, alright, looll cool. I mean more on that.
Speaker 1: You probably go to his bods. I'm sure if you
Speaker 1: wanted to see that in action. But we're talking about
Speaker 1: blizz Con, and blizz Con was super fun. It was
Speaker 1: both of your first times at blizz Con. First time
Speaker 1: it was, this is my second, so it's not like
Speaker 1: I'm like the super Vet, but blizz Con is was.
Speaker 1: It's it's a great experience. I think when you have
Speaker 1: such a focus cons, like we talked in the Comic
Speaker 1: Con episode of how Like you know, when you go
Speaker 1: to a comic counter anime con, it's so many different
Speaker 1: properties coming together that you know, you get what you like,
Speaker 1: everyone gets what they're like, but sometimes you don't get enough.
Speaker 1: And when you have something so targeted like blizz Con,
Speaker 1: where it's just all Blizzard everything, it was so cool.
Speaker 1: They had like a whole large live dark Moonfair. They
Speaker 1: had multiple sports made. Yeah, they had that we yeah
Speaker 1: you missed that, dad, full size dark Moonfair. It was
Speaker 1: and it spanned like multiple buildings. It felt, it honestly
Speaker 1: felt that that this year it was almost a little
Speaker 1: too big for the Anaheim Convention Center and y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: might have to move to l a convention center. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Blizzard you know, not only would that
Speaker 1: make that trip way easier, but you'll have a lot
Speaker 1: more space. It'll be a good time. I think it's
Speaker 1: time Blizzard come on down l a maybe make our
Speaker 1: lives way easier. But yeah, it's but every year it
Speaker 1: starts off with the opening ceremony and we get those sweet,
Speaker 1: sweet announcements. It's basically like the Apple kind of like
Speaker 1: keynote speech, but for Blizzard nerds, and it's super exciting.
Speaker 1: And they even have their own little versions of weight.
Speaker 1: There's more, but let's kick it off with the Blizzard
Speaker 1: property most people are familiar with, which is World of Warcraft.
Speaker 1: They yes, yes, yes, they announced Tides of Vengeance, which
Speaker 1: is the war between and and you know this little
Speaker 1: tizzy that they hooked me up with. They gave me
Speaker 1: the press, you know, info so I can just read
Speaker 1: it all, and the war between the Horde and the Alliance,
Speaker 1: which is a crucial turning point. And Tides of Vengeance
Speaker 1: the upcoming first major content update for Battle for Azarath
Speaker 1: that will bring new content including the Battle of Dessar,
Speaker 1: a Lower Raid and Battle for Dark Shore, Warfront and more.
Speaker 1: And there's then they added a nice cinematic which Naim
Speaker 1: got to watch I have sat there watched him watch it.
Speaker 1: Malik and I got to watch it live. It was
Speaker 1: amazing And unfortunately when Malik watched it, even when he
Speaker 1: watched the livestream, he didn't get the cheers. But there's
Speaker 1: something about hearing the cheers at the specific moments and
Speaker 1: just the energy that's in the room. But for those
Speaker 1: who once again, this will be in the footnotes for
Speaker 1: you to watch later. But just a quick cliff notes. Um,
Speaker 1: if you are unaware at the top of Battle for
Speaker 1: as Roth in the general encounter and which you're joining
Speaker 1: the with a whole bunch of new players, you there's
Speaker 1: a battle in which you arrest sal Frank sour fang
Speaker 1: Um and he's just in jail. So this picks up
Speaker 1: from there where Aldown goes down to check and he's
Speaker 1: kind of filling weathered by the war seeing so many
Speaker 1: people dying, which has been a good It's so interesting
Speaker 1: with the world of warcraft because they are so good
Speaker 1: at like both like making a game that sits in
Speaker 1: a constant state of war, but still like have that
Speaker 1: kind of down to earth take of like this is bad,
Speaker 1: we're losing people. We we don't want this, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're having fun out here questing, but there are you know,
Speaker 1: problems that come with war. And so he goes down
Speaker 1: consults with sour Fang. You find out that sour Fang
Speaker 1: is not happy with Sylvanas and the where she's taking
Speaker 1: a hoard. Yeah, some people disagree. Yeah, you know, well
Speaker 1: Silvanna still got stands na are you Hoarde? Okay, here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Wow, did not know that. I didn't say
Speaker 1: I was. I I like, both sides have have characters
Speaker 1: on both sides. I started on Alliance, Um, I'm but
Speaker 1: the character on playing now is Alliance. But I still
Speaker 1: have love for Hoarde, I don't. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: look at both sides and see what's going on to
Speaker 1: to figure out the naime over here with good people
Speaker 1: on both sides. Yeah, so as a both sides are Um,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about this new expansion because it
Speaker 1: does kind of bring the both together sort of. Well,
Speaker 1: at first, I did not care for all the one
Speaker 1: right at the beginning, I was all for King Varian. Uh,
Speaker 1: and when he you know, died get killed by Golden,
Speaker 1: I had to like getting used to this new guy,
Speaker 1: and and so far he's pretty cool. I believe he's
Speaker 1: a paladin, right yea, yeah, yeah, paladin. He might be
Speaker 1: a Paladin's I'm kind of going based off of his hearthstone. Yea.
Speaker 1: But so far, I haven't played much of the expansion
Speaker 1: because of work and other stuff. But so far as
Speaker 1: it's pretty good, like really good. I haven't played a
Speaker 1: Legion was good too, but anyway, uh, it's so far,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Uh. I want to explore more about
Speaker 1: sar Fangs uh uh his uh what do you call it?
Speaker 1: His uh mindset when it comes to what he perceives
Speaker 1: as what the Horde looks for in his eyes? As
Speaker 1: well as Savannas, she's pretty much I know we have,
Speaker 1: like you said, stands for Silvanas, but what she's doing,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is pretty left up. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: she's she's basically committing genocide. And uh, I'm interesting to
Speaker 1: see if Sarfang could potentially be the new Wards you eventually,
Speaker 1: especially since he you know, if you played without the
Speaker 1: Lynch King, you know, he lost his son at that time,
Speaker 1: and then you know, I want to see what his mindset.
Speaker 1: I just want to explore more because he's a really
Speaker 1: interesting character. Yeah. So yeah, no, I'm I'm super excited
Speaker 1: for that, and and it's it is so funny because
Speaker 1: I do feel like on the Horde side, They're big
Speaker 1: angle is that there's so much turmoil in the leadership
Speaker 1: of the Horde where Alliance are thing has just been
Speaker 1: and it does seem like Alliance are kind of being
Speaker 1: played as the good guys, where our biggest mission is
Speaker 1: whatever the expansion pack is about. You know, there's never
Speaker 1: Our first change of power has been when King Arrian
Speaker 1: Wren died, which I skipped Warlords and a Legion because
Speaker 1: I just got caught up in other games. So I
Speaker 1: came back for Battle Forever round and I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see my man Barian. You know, he's
Speaker 1: finally getting to fight. The Hoard was something to get
Speaker 1: spiced up. And then I come in. I'm like, where
Speaker 1: what is it? Why is it? Why is that one
Speaker 1: running everything? And someone had to go and tell me
Speaker 1: that he is dead, and I was like, wait, what hey,
Speaker 1: straight killed my man's off behind the back. That's why
Speaker 1: that's why you played through all expansions, y'all, so you
Speaker 1: don't come back when your favor is dead. I didn't
Speaker 1: even get to see him off. I have to go
Speaker 1: back and play it, but it's not even the same
Speaker 1: because I know that I'm already in the future of it.
Speaker 1: You've seen the cut scene though, right the video of
Speaker 1: you know, you're just trying to rub it in. Now,
Speaker 1: I thought you watched it. I will play through that
Speaker 1: point and watch it when I get to that point. Naive,
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. I'm sorry. I thought you actually
Speaker 1: watched it. That's how we also had, you know, the
Speaker 1: confirmation of a release date of Wild Classic. I will
Speaker 1: launch in the summer of two thousand nineteen and will
Speaker 1: be included with your Wow subscription. Blizz count attendees can
Speaker 1: demo it early. Uh and uh it was on the
Speaker 1: show floor. Me and Naim got to play it. Um,
Speaker 1: it's Wild Classic, that's my take on that's it. Well,
Speaker 1: what do you think of classic? Um? So, I've been
Speaker 1: playing Wild for a really long time. I'm on a
Speaker 1: day one server mana Roth confined me. Um, but I
Speaker 1: what I started what six years ago? And this is
Speaker 1: what a fourteen year old game now? So even I
Speaker 1: don't feel like o G And it's kind of cool
Speaker 1: to maybe have that opportunity to be like what were
Speaker 1: you guys all freaking out about? Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: was it was Look, I will say there was interest
Speaker 1: in being like, oh what is this like first, and
Speaker 1: everyone so hyped about but I came in like Burning Crusade.
Speaker 1: But I came in in the same sense. I don't
Speaker 1: know how familiar. I feel like everyone in this room
Speaker 1: will be gamers and understand, but everyone remembers like that
Speaker 1: period where there were tons of MMOs and you would
Speaker 1: play an MMO, but you weren't playing an MMO. You're
Speaker 1: just kind of leveling a bit before you were like
Speaker 1: all right, you know, like that, And that's kind of
Speaker 1: how that's that's how I did with b C. Then
Speaker 1: rather lich King came and I kind of first finally
Speaker 1: had a guild, people to cheer me on, someone who
Speaker 1: knew what they were doing, and something to build towards.
Speaker 1: And that's when it became like the best off tank
Speaker 1: on'nara has ever seen, um but I But even then,
Speaker 1: like I remember, I really liked Wrath because that's when
Speaker 1: I kind of got good at the game and understood it,
Speaker 1: and they had the they just introduced the dungeon finder
Speaker 1: or the raid finder, and I was really excited about
Speaker 1: that because if if you were unfamiliar the way you
Speaker 1: have to find raids were speaking in all chats in
Speaker 1: the middle of the town, and people would run these
Speaker 1: weird quizzes from you and expect you to know the rate,
Speaker 1: even if you're like, hey, it's my first run. Oh,
Speaker 1: you don't get a first run. You gotta know the raid.
Speaker 1: And then if you if it is someone who's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you run through, it's like, well, did
Speaker 1: you watch all the videos and you're like, yeah, I did,
Speaker 1: but it's still not the same as actually playing the game.
Speaker 1: Uh so, And there was just a lot of gate keeping,
Speaker 1: and it made for the end game being very slow
Speaker 1: and stilted if you didn't have a guild. Uh and
Speaker 1: raid Finder kind of got rid of all that, and
Speaker 1: people were mad about it. And I think the thing
Speaker 1: people are mad about is that they don't get to
Speaker 1: be elitist that and that is my true heart of
Speaker 1: hearts feel on people's anger towards like a lot of
Speaker 1: the improvements, because a lot of the quality of life
Speaker 1: improvements helped with a lot of these things that I
Speaker 1: felt were wrong on a social level. And wow, which
Speaker 1: is like people gatekeeping and being being able to be
Speaker 1: elitist within the game and when there was a way
Speaker 1: to skip them and they can't, you know, have this
Speaker 1: kind of hold over you. Now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: the games bad, but to stay on the task. For
Speaker 1: Wild Classic, I turned it on me and I am
Speaker 1: played I got a quest. I hit mapp to see
Speaker 1: where the quest was. It wasn't there, and I was like, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be playing this. Yeah. I played Wow
Speaker 1: from the get go right when it launched. I got
Speaker 1: it for a right around Christmas two thousand five or
Speaker 1: something like that, and uh, that was pretty much. I
Speaker 1: played an MMO beforehand before Wow. Those dark ages for
Speaker 1: next on made it whatever, But what well the world
Speaker 1: craft was like first full MMO experience, and uh, comparing
Speaker 1: Wild now compared to where it was, it's such a
Speaker 1: nine and day thing because, like if he said, when
Speaker 1: you look at your map, if you get a quest,
Speaker 1: usually now you can see where you need to go.
Speaker 1: It's it's so easy. Before you have to literally read
Speaker 1: the quest and figure out where such as such, if
Speaker 1: we had to kill like ten minutes, you have to
Speaker 1: like read it where it's at. It's a mind southwest
Speaker 1: of the location right now, you have to go there
Speaker 1: and find it and then kill slowly ten uh ten
Speaker 1: or so amounts of uh uh whatever to uh complete quest,
Speaker 1: then come back to return it. You couldn't. You couldn't
Speaker 1: complete the quest right then and there. You have to
Speaker 1: come back to the quest giver at the hill for example,
Speaker 1: uh ten minutes away getting another quest, go back out.
Speaker 1: It was such slow grinding experience. But because I was
Speaker 1: so young personally and I was just having fun and
Speaker 1: just hambored by the world that I was seeing, I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, whatever, it's cool, this is cool. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think personally there will be such a wake
Speaker 1: up call once this comes out. Granted, I'm gonna play it.
Speaker 1: I want to, I want to play I'm gonna play it.
Speaker 1: But I think once people get over into the nostalgia
Speaker 1: feeling of playing Wow Vanilla, they'd be like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this was as fun as I remember what
Speaker 1: in the But I think because this will answer the
Speaker 1: question of did people want a Vanilla Wow experience or
Speaker 1: did people want a free Wow experience? Because that's what
Speaker 1: it's gonna answer, because remember that was the main thing
Speaker 1: that where Blizzard was shutting down these services. All these
Speaker 1: servers were free, So we're getting the Wow, the same
Speaker 1: game that other people are paying a subscription fee for.
Speaker 1: You were getting it for free and you were saying
Speaker 1: the reason you wanted it is because it was vanilla,
Speaker 1: and Wow didn't offer that. So now that whole I
Speaker 1: was offering that it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's so, now do you want it? Or
Speaker 1: did you want a free Wow? There was things I
Speaker 1: can say doing Wow Classic the Classic area that were
Speaker 1: just amazing times, Like if you were if you got
Speaker 1: a rate of forty people together, do that you you
Speaker 1: managed to defeat, say Raging Ross and Moncore. That feeling
Speaker 1: of just seeing forty individual people just cheer on in
Speaker 1: Ventrilo Ventrilla is before now, but you know, of course
Speaker 1: you have to pay for a server. Then, yeah, teams speaking,
Speaker 1: team speak. Counterstrike was all about team speak, then Trillo
Speaker 1: was for the MMO nerds, yeah, and vice versa for
Speaker 1: some people. But just just having that moment of hearing
Speaker 1: just forty people and then people waiting outside in the
Speaker 1: raid and just hearing that you've defeated the Raging Rows.
Speaker 1: Since your first guild raid Boss Kill is amazing, and
Speaker 1: I know people want to have that feeling again at
Speaker 1: nostalgia feeling. But at the same time, it was hard
Speaker 1: to get forty people together and be on the same
Speaker 1: page to actually strategize to beat a boss and and
Speaker 1: molten Core and Black Wing Lair and next Ramus was
Speaker 1: so hard to deal with that, you know, But that's
Speaker 1: just one of the things that was both pros and
Speaker 1: contents when dealing with a WOW classic back then compared
Speaker 1: to now, well that was a yeah. So you know,
Speaker 1: love it, love it or not, it's gonna be there.
Speaker 1: And if you're already sub to Wow, no extra price
Speaker 1: to you. So I think that's a win win either way.
Speaker 1: And you know, last a lot not least, they announced
Speaker 1: the the kind of charity gift they Every year they
Speaker 1: do a charity gift where if you buy, the proceeds
Speaker 1: go towards charity, and this year it's gonna benefit code
Speaker 1: dot org, which is a nonprofit dedicated to expanding computer
Speaker 1: science education in schools and increasing participation by women and minorities,
Speaker 1: Which is cool like that that not only is it
Speaker 1: a charity, but it's a charity that hope it helps
Speaker 1: women and minorities, and you know, we definitely want more
Speaker 1: of that in stem tech and in gaming. And you know,
Speaker 1: to see a company like Blizzard be proactive about that
Speaker 1: by you know, helping a charity like that, that's real
Speaker 1: cool to see. Uh. And yeah, this year it's a
Speaker 1: cute little whomper, so you can adopt that. It's a
Speaker 1: whomper for for people who don't play Blizzard game it's
Speaker 1: basically abominable snowman, but look it up. It's cute. But
Speaker 1: we got to talk about the big old Overwatch announcement
Speaker 1: that came out. It was exciting, everyone's super hyped about it.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that right after these messages and we're back.
Speaker 1: Uh just like that you know you need, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump in and we're gonna speed it up. We
Speaker 1: got real nostalgic with Wow, we're gonna I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: and be on everyone's head. But Overwatch kicked off with
Speaker 1: a Macree animated short which showed this character Ash, which
Speaker 1: was super exciting. Well before that, we saw this apple
Speaker 1: pie that was so good that made me go get
Speaker 1: apple pie today. I was like, yeah, the apple pies
Speaker 1: are bomb. You're right, mcrea. Um. But uh, the animated
Speaker 1: short which will be in once again the footnotes, that's
Speaker 1: me cos playing as Miles. Uh. If you don't listen
Speaker 1: to the day the site guys, then you don't know
Speaker 1: what I just did. Um. But it was cool because
Speaker 1: this was very much a like I don't want to
Speaker 1: say trolly because that seems like it's mean, but just
Speaker 1: definitely like exciting announcement because you know, they talked about
Speaker 1: how almost every character in that cinematic would be fun
Speaker 1: as a playable character, and it's true. And then they
Speaker 1: went through I thought they swerved us at the end
Speaker 1: by introducing that Echo character, but then he was like
Speaker 1: echoes not ready yet, and we're like, oh damn. And
Speaker 1: they're like, but what if it's this guy? And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like, but it's not. What
Speaker 1: if it's this guy? Oh but it's not. What if
Speaker 1: it was Bob? And was like, oh, but it's not,
Speaker 1: it's Ash And we're like yeah. And then they play
Speaker 1: ashes uh kind of announcement uh you know video and
Speaker 1: it's good. And then towards the end of it, Uh,
Speaker 1: Bob pops up and we're like oh, and I'm losing
Speaker 1: my mind because I thought it was a double character announcement.
Speaker 1: It was not. It's just an ultimate which will get
Speaker 1: into that. Actually, yeah, this will be pretty long because
Speaker 1: all of us had a chance to play, and your
Speaker 1: boy got real sweaty. I got play of the game
Speaker 1: in the media room because I don't play. I don't play.
Speaker 1: I don't care if y'all trying to test out this
Speaker 1: new character. I'm here trying to get wins, me and
Speaker 1: the guy who decided to stop playing as Ash and
Speaker 1: play a healer just so we can win. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the type of scum lord stuff that I'm into,
Speaker 1: taking the media time, chance to learn this new character
Speaker 1: and trying to win. But yeah, so we had Ash.
Speaker 1: She's a gun slinger, she was, she's in the Deadlock game.
Speaker 1: She has a um, I don't know what would you
Speaker 1: call that, like yeah, like, but it's like it is
Speaker 1: like a staple in West Yeah, like a repeat yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a repeater a rifle which is
Speaker 1: so versatile and cool because you have uh without aiming
Speaker 1: downsites is shooting pretty fast and then when you aim
Speaker 1: down shot sites, it shoots slower, but it has like
Speaker 1: that sniper rifle damage, and it does seem like it
Speaker 1: gets that bonus damage with headshots. Uh. So it's uhum
Speaker 1: or lever action, yes, repeater or lever action for the
Speaker 1: cowboys in the room. But she is super fun. She
Speaker 1: her shift attack is a sawed off that knocks you
Speaker 1: both back, but if you shoot it in the ground,
Speaker 1: you can use it as a rocket jump. She has
Speaker 1: a dynamite which does damage over time because it catches
Speaker 1: you on fire, which has a fuse, or you can
Speaker 1: shoot it so it can explode immediately. Uh. And her
Speaker 1: ultimate is Bob. He he charges forward, slams down, and
Speaker 1: then starts to shoot automatically. And once I figured this out,
Speaker 1: that's how I ended up getting play of the game.
Speaker 1: We were playing on El Dorado. That was the mat
Speaker 1: we're playing on, and that first little cave that you
Speaker 1: have um at the beginning before the turn for the payload,
Speaker 1: we were all in there fighting and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think I just figured out that Bob is a
Speaker 1: charge like it doesn't just appear. And when I did it,
Speaker 1: he pushed all of our enemies out of the cave,
Speaker 1: slammed down, and proceeded to kill everyone. Uh. So so
Speaker 1: that's when I was like, Oh, this will be fun
Speaker 1: to see the ways you can use it because you're
Speaker 1: basically firing Bob forward in the charge motion and it
Speaker 1: seems like it does get a little pushback, so you
Speaker 1: can have fun with that on the edge. Or if
Speaker 1: you're a Naime Naime who smacked Bob off, the just
Speaker 1: basically auto killed someone's old because it charged towards Naime
Speaker 1: and he smacked him right off of the level and
Speaker 1: it was over, Yeah, what do you all think of ash?
Speaker 1: So that was I was a mouthful well. I mean
Speaker 1: I loved like witnessing that reveal video with you, Iffy,
Speaker 1: because it was, Oh, is it gonna be her? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be you know who? And I was like, Iffy,
Speaker 1: I hope it's Bob. And I was like, yeah, how's
Speaker 1: it Bob? You know? And I'm really glad that he
Speaker 1: is added to this whole Overwatch world. I did not
Speaker 1: have an epic play with Bob. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's all charged up now, and I wasn't even really
Speaker 1: looking where I was looking, and I like shot him
Speaker 1: into one of those like rooms where there's pickups and
Speaker 1: he was just by himself, and I'm like that was like,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's using you to fight their weird battles.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you relax. I really liked the dynamite.
Speaker 1: The dynamite was the most fun for me because it
Speaker 1: gave you the option because in such a fast paced game,
Speaker 1: You're like, well, it would be generally helpful if that
Speaker 1: dynamite blew up over there, and then you can time
Speaker 1: that explosion. Yeah. Oh yeah, so it's it's took great
Speaker 1: you can It's so first selling the ways you can
Speaker 1: use the dynamite and then also what both of you
Speaker 1: got to experience between me there. There there was one
Speaker 1: other thing Overwatch related that was at bliz Cons and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just read the the press. Uh kid, they
Speaker 1: sent Lucio's is here. With the help of Kelloggs, the
Speaker 1: popular Lucio in game spray has become a reality. The
Speaker 1: Syria will be available for purchase starting in late December
Speaker 1: at various retailers in the United States. Some lucky attendees
Speaker 1: at blizz Conn and those visiting Kellogg's NYC Cafe Union
Speaker 1: Square this weekend will be some of the first to
Speaker 1: boost their breakfast with the Lucy Oh Sonic Vanilla Flavor,
Speaker 1: who may have been one of those lucky people. Well
Speaker 1: it was your boy. Your boy went and hounded. And
Speaker 1: I gotta give shouts out to Blizzard because I felt
Speaker 1: like any other company would have been really annoyed at.
Speaker 1: I've checked back with him every hour on the hour,
Speaker 1: but they they had it, they had it waiting for
Speaker 1: me when I went with Naime to get the Lucio's
Speaker 1: and I've never been more happy. It's sitting in my house. No. No,
Speaker 1: I was like, it needs to be right here, that
Speaker 1: I wanted that so bad and I got it. It's
Speaker 1: so beautiful. I you know, I am taking a keyto
Speaker 1: break and yeah, I could have opened it up to
Speaker 1: taste and I was like, you know what, No, mostly
Speaker 1: because I said I was gonna do something with it,
Speaker 1: and I think I will. My the voice of Lucio,
Speaker 1: Johnny Cruiz is my friend, my buddy, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get him to sign that box of cereal and it
Speaker 1: will be uh put up as a giveaway during the
Speaker 1: extra live stream that I plan on doing this month,
Speaker 1: so you know someone else will get lucky. Um, just
Speaker 1: like the Daft Punk song and if you know it's November,
Speaker 1: so you'll still get it early before it drops in
Speaker 1: mid December. It seems like, so stay tuned, show up
Speaker 1: on Twitch, you know, all that stuff. We're doing it
Speaker 1: for the charities, so it's a good cause. Let's jump
Speaker 1: over the Heroes of the Storm. All my mobile heads
Speaker 1: where y'all at? Uh, just me alright, yeah, alright, alright.
Speaker 1: So we got a new hero in the Heroes of
Speaker 1: the Storm, which I pretty much expected, but what I
Speaker 1: did not expect was this their first ever Nexus born hero,
Speaker 1: which means it's not from a previous I p. If
Speaker 1: you're unaware of Heroes of the Storm. Heroes of the
Speaker 1: Storm basically, uh, it takes the it takes the sorry,
Speaker 1: it takes heroes from other Blizzard properties and puts them
Speaker 1: in the game. So you have Warcraft heroes like uhl Furian,
Speaker 1: we have who Yeah, yeah, Arthur's is in there. And
Speaker 1: then you have Diablo, he was like Leoric the Crusader,
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think the is the Demon Hunter
Speaker 1: in it yet? No? No Demon Hunter? Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you have Overwatch characters like Tracer, Genji and uh
Speaker 1: it Um. And then we what's what's a the StarCraft
Speaker 1: zero tool? You know, uh, the zerks, you know, a rainer,
Speaker 1: you know, all those dudes. So it's very fun. So
Speaker 1: instead of pulling from that resource, they're like, we're creating
Speaker 1: a new hero called Orphea, which is the heir of
Speaker 1: the Raven Court and daughter of the nefarious raven lord.
Speaker 1: And it's pretty cool. I I got to play a bit.
Speaker 1: She's she's very fun. She's she's a kind of ranged hero.
Speaker 1: Her QUE is kind of this range attack that pulls
Speaker 1: pulls your enemy towards your pulls her towards the enemy.
Speaker 1: Her W is a forward attack button, uh, and her
Speaker 1: E is ah it shoots a a area of effect
Speaker 1: hit that can be used to slow and her ultimate
Speaker 1: allows her one allows her to damage a whole area
Speaker 1: for a piece of time, and the other I forget,
Speaker 1: but that can be included in this package that we
Speaker 1: will also include in the footnotes. Uh, or all the
Speaker 1: deats will be there. Uh, so anything I might have
Speaker 1: missed will be there. But yeah, it seems like she
Speaker 1: uses some kind of like he referred to it as
Speaker 1: dead magic, and it's like basically look like venom if
Speaker 1: it wasn't the bad top hardy version. It's it's really cool.
Speaker 1: She seems cool. She's carrying this like casket container on
Speaker 1: her back. That's really cool. Um, but her hair. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And one other fun note is they announced they kind
Speaker 1: of teased and announced that le Orc will be getting
Speaker 1: a Janitor skin, which looks super fun. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: it seems like they're doing a whole school theme for
Speaker 1: their skins. So that's Heroes of the Storm for all
Speaker 1: my stormheads. Then we're gonna talk about Diablo, oh boy,
Speaker 1: because yeah, this was a this was a this was
Speaker 1: this was a moment. Uh. And I will talk about
Speaker 1: what's going on and I will talk about how I feel.
Speaker 1: So we'll start with the good, which is they announced
Speaker 1: Diablo three, the Eternal Collection, now available on Switch, which
Speaker 1: I've been grinding for the past two nights. It's been
Speaker 1: super fun. If you've been grinding, I we need to
Speaker 1: exchange stuff. I'm already uh level seventy. I just guess
Speaker 1: were fifty years. I'm like, yeah, I wasn't playing when
Speaker 1: I said I was grinding. I was grinding. I am
Speaker 1: like on the third I'm getting the fourth season journey
Speaker 1: before I'm running riffs. I was not. I was grinding
Speaker 1: that ass off. I was here, proud of myself from
Speaker 1: going level you know zero to last night. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: no I was. I was not playing. But I will
Speaker 1: power level anyone who wants it though. So if you
Speaker 1: want a power level and get to this end game content,
Speaker 1: hit your boy up. Yeah no, I love Diablo is
Speaker 1: like that perfect game that's just there and you can
Speaker 1: always get back into it and have fun. Like that's
Speaker 1: what I love about Diablo. I love just you know,
Speaker 1: and the season system is perfect for that. You can
Speaker 1: do the end game stuff pop off, and the community
Speaker 1: is there on Switch, like they have the quick Match
Speaker 1: that lets you match with people and man, we we're
Speaker 1: busting heads all day. Uh so definitely. And then they
Speaker 1: have the Switch Diablo three Collection Bundle, which comes with
Speaker 1: a uh special commemorative commemorative switch. The doc has some
Speaker 1: art on it. The back of the actual console has
Speaker 1: some art on it. Uh you know, I would have
Speaker 1: liked the little art on the Joy cons as, you know,
Speaker 1: just to carry because that's what I'm gonna see the
Speaker 1: most of I dip. My DOC is behind my TV.
Speaker 1: But that's a me thing. If if if your DOC
Speaker 1: is like where it's visible with most consoles usually are visible, uh,
Speaker 1: then it probably looks cool and it comes with a
Speaker 1: super dope bag. But we got to talk about the
Speaker 1: thing we're all growny about, which is Diablo Immortal. Blizzard
Speaker 1: introduced an authentic Diablo experience with Diablo Immortal, the mobile
Speaker 1: MMO action RPG and the newest entry into the Diablo series.
Speaker 1: So just off rip, uh, just so you know. It
Speaker 1: takes place between Diablo two and three, those stories in between,
Speaker 1: and you know it is a mobile device, and people
Speaker 1: are saying the that it feels like a real skin of. Um,
Speaker 1: the company who made it made it other game. I
Speaker 1: went to look at videos and it didn't look similar
Speaker 1: like it. It has the same top down Diablo three
Speaker 1: Diablo I mean not Diablo three, but Diablo series. Feel
Speaker 1: the one that they're saying it's a real skin of
Speaker 1: is more of a kind of third person action. So
Speaker 1: I feel like the UI is similar, but the there
Speaker 1: isn't much diversity in cell phone game U I. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of already a weak argument to begin In
Speaker 1: my and my point of view, you have one side
Speaker 1: being the thumbsick and you have the other side being
Speaker 1: buttons that your finger pressed, so which is kind of
Speaker 1: pretty much and like pup g is the same thing
Speaker 1: on phone. Yeah, and it's actually pretty fun when when
Speaker 1: I play. I still play every now and again. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's usually the control setup for most mobile games. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, you know, I played it
Speaker 1: and I actually enjoyed it. Like I will say, when
Speaker 1: I first heard the announcement, I was team And it
Speaker 1: wasn't because I was feeling like it was a reskin
Speaker 1: or anything. I just, you know, I just phone games
Speaker 1: seem like, especially if you have all these stories that
Speaker 1: you're trying to tell, it's like that could be a
Speaker 1: DLC for the switch, or that could be a DLC
Speaker 1: for the thing. But once I actually played it, it
Speaker 1: actually plays really well, and especially coming off of grinding
Speaker 1: uh Diablo and then coming to the cell phone version,
Speaker 1: it really did feel like it they did a good
Speaker 1: job of transferring the fal to the cell phone version. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, sucking up because I got a
Speaker 1: media you know whatever, you you know, I this this
Speaker 1: is just how I feel. Some people may feel differently,
Speaker 1: but it seems like a few of the outlets that
Speaker 1: did get their hands on it feel the same way
Speaker 1: as I do. That it feels pretty good once you
Speaker 1: play it. Everyone I've talked to at the at the
Speaker 1: con name can be my witness that that when they
Speaker 1: played it it felt good. So I I I just
Speaker 1: you know, say, if you're if you're not in the
Speaker 1: cell phone the games at all, and then yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: don't like break your your rule of not like in
Speaker 1: cell phone games to try it out. But if you
Speaker 1: do like cell phone games and you're afraid that it's
Speaker 1: just a re skin, I say give it a shot
Speaker 1: because it definitely didn't feel like a re skin. But
Speaker 1: full disclosure, I also didn't play the game that was
Speaker 1: re skin. I kind of just went through and watched
Speaker 1: videos and tried to compare to what I played, and
Speaker 1: just from the videos that I saw, it definitely didn't
Speaker 1: feel like a ree skin. Yeah I didn't play it.
Speaker 1: I think you played it right now, Okay, Uh, it's
Speaker 1: I just it's I know it's pros and cons with
Speaker 1: releasing it on a mobile. I know people want it
Speaker 1: on a PC. Diablo is a deep game, and you
Speaker 1: know you need your keyboards or you know, your configuration
Speaker 1: to do a lot of stuff. But they not much
Speaker 1: information to my knowledge, has been released for this thing yet,
Speaker 1: so people are already jumping to conclusions. I know we
Speaker 1: talked about this beforehand, and people already jumping to conclusions
Speaker 1: about what's going to be. The game is going to
Speaker 1: be just a straight rip off of the third party,
Speaker 1: the other game that allegedly that people are looking at
Speaker 1: that's comparing it to it. But there's, like I said,
Speaker 1: pros and Constitus, UH, putting it on a mobile market,
Speaker 1: which is also just pretty big still to this day.
Speaker 1: UH introduces a wider audience to Diablo, which eventually, when
Speaker 1: di Alblo four comes out, you'll be able to bring
Speaker 1: those people that you already got from them playing Immortal
Speaker 1: to the new Diabo four. Ya that's supposedly going to
Speaker 1: come out. Yeah, And I feel like that's really what
Speaker 1: it is. I think it's less. I think the game
Speaker 1: is getting the brunt of people being mad that they
Speaker 1: have to wait for Diablo. Um. I mean technically comparatively,
Speaker 1: we're not the We haven't waited the longest yet because
Speaker 1: Diablo Too, Lord of Darkness came out in two thousand
Speaker 1: and one and Diablo three came out in two thousand
Speaker 1: and twelve, so we have yet to reach the eleven
Speaker 1: or the eleven year weight that people who waited for
Speaker 1: two and three to hit yet. So I think it's
Speaker 1: and I think you know, to trust the devs when
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, um, you know we're doing that. Because
Speaker 1: there was a video that came out that kind of
Speaker 1: made me roll my eyes where it was the Q
Speaker 1: and a portion of Diablo and someone was like, oh,
Speaker 1: is this an out of season April Fool's joke, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, yeah, it's cool, it's funny for
Speaker 1: the memes, but like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's disrespectful. I was gonna add an extra syllable that
Speaker 1: wouldn't have made it to the cut. Um. That type
Speaker 1: of stuff gets me riled up because when you know
Speaker 1: what goes into game design, when you know the work,
Speaker 1: like even though it's a game that you don't care about,
Speaker 1: even like even if it was a real skin of
Speaker 1: a game, that's still a lot of work that would
Speaker 1: have went in to put the Diablo assets into that game,
Speaker 1: and you and and like I at the same time,
Speaker 1: I don't want to like Negaine anyone's feelings, but there's
Speaker 1: like a level of entitlement when you think you can
Speaker 1: walk up to someone who worked hardens like genuinely excited
Speaker 1: to share something that they spent time created and kind
Speaker 1: of spit in their face like that and think that
Speaker 1: you're in the right. And I think there's that's the
Speaker 1: source of a lot of things that are wrong today,
Speaker 1: that when you feel that you are in the right,
Speaker 1: you think it absolves you from any type of decency,
Speaker 1: And that's not the case. You still have to be
Speaker 1: a good human even if you're mad. You have to
Speaker 1: be the bigger on the way here, when I was parking,
Speaker 1: somebody came and um, and they cut me off. And
Speaker 1: they they're hanking behind me the whole time, and they
Speaker 1: cut me off. They kind of came around because I
Speaker 1: was making a left turn and she had her window down.
Speaker 1: She was yelling, and I was like shut like I
Speaker 1: had there was there was a moment where I had
Speaker 1: to decide do I just part or do I follow
Speaker 1: this person make them mad? But besides the optics of
Speaker 1: this giant black guy following this angry white woman, uh
Speaker 1: and just but I was like, it's nice, It's like
Speaker 1: it's it's like, you know, it's not that serious. Like
Speaker 1: that would still be a crappy thing to do, even though,
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm justified because she is targeting me.
Speaker 1: Um and and that's what it comes down to, is like,
Speaker 1: you know, it feels old now because of everything that
Speaker 1: has happened between this quote up of the when they
Speaker 1: when when when they go low, we go high. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, there's sometimes when we need to you know,
Speaker 1: rethink that. Uh, that analogy, but I think in general,
Speaker 1: in life, you definitely want to do that, especially over
Speaker 1: something that's supposed to be fun, like a video game. Definitely,
Speaker 1: in a video game, you gotta understand, and you also
Speaker 1: got to understand and appreciate people who will like that,
Speaker 1: because there are people who probably saw that and did
Speaker 1: get excited. And now you're you're kind of sending this
Speaker 1: energy of like, oh no, you're dumb for liking this. Um,
Speaker 1: but that's my mini Diablo rant. Uh. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: do a complete one eight uh as we talk about
Speaker 1: her stone right after these messages. All right, and we're
Speaker 1: back and uh, we're gonna close out StarCraft. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just hit their announcements up. But no one in here
Speaker 1: is a StarCraft to head except for Dan poor Dan's
Speaker 1: he threw his hands up in disappointment. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: have zero tool dropping uh in the new co op mode,
Speaker 1: which you know, I thought zero tool was always around,
Speaker 1: but I guess you know. Uh, so how excited where
Speaker 1: you are speaking? Enough StarCraft professional scene A white dude
Speaker 1: the first time in twenty years one uh and the
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I think the first instance of where people
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, white dude deeds win. Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: was there. Yeah, it was a scene that's dominated by Koreans. Uh. Finally, Uh,
Speaker 1: that was interesting. I had a friend texting me updates
Speaker 1: and she was like, just in it. She was at
Speaker 1: the stadium and she was like it was crazy. Um.
Speaker 1: And now you can also gain war chest from watching
Speaker 1: people do it on Twitch. But let's talk about her Stone. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, before we even start into what this is
Speaker 1: eventually going to talk about, I want to say I
Speaker 1: really did enjoy the game. Me and Malika had a
Speaker 1: great game. Uh. Playing with the expansion, it was super fun.
Speaker 1: It was great. Um. But if that was the longest
Speaker 1: game of Stone I've ever played in my life, it
Speaker 1: was so back in for Yeah, that was what was
Speaker 1: so crazy. It was long and it felt like at
Speaker 1: any moment you or me were gonna win. It just
Speaker 1: kept going back. It was. It was real fun. They
Speaker 1: had these two cards that we both had. Um, we
Speaker 1: we both had one card. It was two in total
Speaker 1: that would have this feature called shrine in which if
Speaker 1: you killed it, it would just come back in three terms.
Speaker 1: But they all had a super dope effect. Her card
Speaker 1: had its attack was however much armor she had, and
Speaker 1: my card had a plus one spell damage for every
Speaker 1: spell in my hand. So her card was filled with
Speaker 1: armor up cards and my my deck was filled with spells.
Speaker 1: And so it was just this back and forth where
Speaker 1: like this big scary guy would come because she was
Speaker 1: armored up, and then I would have to but he
Speaker 1: still had the same health, so I just need to
Speaker 1: do eight damage to knock him out. And then it's
Speaker 1: me trying to build up and prepare for this guy
Speaker 1: to come back, and she was just getting her armor up.
Speaker 1: It was real fun. I'm really excited for this expansion
Speaker 1: the announcement. However, so let's talk about trolls as a whole. Trolls,
Speaker 1: you know, there are race that comes from the Warcraft
Speaker 1: universe have been in wow um one of the best
Speaker 1: designs on the Hoarde, I will say, but a lot
Speaker 1: of their design borrow kind of Aztecs designs and their
Speaker 1: voice borrows a Jamaican accent. Uh so they're there are
Speaker 1: these Jamaicans and the Aztec characters, and it never seemed
Speaker 1: like an issue. Like me speaking from my you know,
Speaker 1: point of view and perspective back in like you know,
Speaker 1: early two thousand's, two thousands six and such when they
Speaker 1: first dropped. And then I feel like, you know, now
Speaker 1: we're in a time where it's it's different. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's very different. It's things are different, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was it. I feel like Blizzard is in a
Speaker 1: weird position and I don't have a solution for them
Speaker 1: right now where they have these trolls and they have
Speaker 1: this race that talks like Jamaican Jamaicans, and like if
Speaker 1: someone was to be talking like a troll in a
Speaker 1: Blizzard setting like blizz Con, you'd be like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: just talking like a troll. But if they were talking
Speaker 1: like a troll in a normal setting where no one's
Speaker 1: aware of Blizzard properties, they'd be like, why is this
Speaker 1: white dude doing a Jamaican accent. I will even go
Speaker 1: further to say that there are white Jamaicans with full
Speaker 1: on Jamaican accents, but that's very nuanced, very different. So there,
Speaker 1: so let this brings us well. Also, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you felt this way at the opening ceremony, but
Speaker 1: when they were doing the Hearthstone announcements, I felt super
Speaker 1: awkward because he also like shot it over to the
Speaker 1: new trailer with the Jamaican accent, and then he also
Speaker 1: talked about how they are a proud people, and it
Speaker 1: was so weird. Yeah, I know, it's so it's so
Speaker 1: funny because it's like and and and this is one
Speaker 1: of those things where I feel like it is going
Speaker 1: to be a thing that like probably went over anyone
Speaker 1: who's not a person of color's head. But I actually
Speaker 1: know because I was in the I was yeah, I
Speaker 1: will say I do disagree. I was in um the
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed slack because I was out of office, but obviously
Speaker 1: because I'm a great co worker. For the co workers
Speaker 1: who couldn't watch the opening ceremony, I was feeding them
Speaker 1: info and one of the co workers who were dope
Speaker 1: and bought virtual tickets were also kind of helping me
Speaker 1: out with that. And one was like, I am not
Speaker 1: feeling this and and and it's because it's a weird
Speaker 1: thing where like I want to defend it because I
Speaker 1: know context wise what you're doing, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to take anyone's agency to say like I don't like
Speaker 1: this right. And then also you mentioned that when they
Speaker 1: made that announcement, like nobody laughed. I felt like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt like no one knew what to do because
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be like exciting because it was
Speaker 1: a troll close and we're like, well are we going mon?
Speaker 1: But it's like it's like it just seems like this
Speaker 1: why dude do in a Jamaican accident, and even like
Speaker 1: in the Battle for Azaroth, you see the troll like
Speaker 1: Jamaicanism stuff kind of toned down. So to see it
Speaker 1: like flip back to this in her Stone, it is
Speaker 1: kind of like whoa, um, But you know, hey, I
Speaker 1: feel like here's the thing. These these discussions need to happen,
Speaker 1: whether whether we agree or not. And I and and
Speaker 1: by agree I mean me other Blacks and Jamaicans. I
Speaker 1: want to put that down so hard. I'm so tired
Speaker 1: of watching pete white people on Twitter try and explain
Speaker 1: to people of color wise, something isn't racism. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this I'm gonna try and keep it as
Speaker 1: short as possible because we're run on time. But you cannot.
Speaker 1: I I and for some people, I get where you're
Speaker 1: coming from. I know you're trying to be like this
Speaker 1: is why from the guy, but you cannot do you
Speaker 1: do it? You you You would not be able to fathom,
Speaker 1: like I would never be able to explain to a
Speaker 1: woman why something isn't sexist because I've never in my life,
Speaker 1: nor will I ever know what that feels like I
Speaker 1: I can know something like it, like I. You know,
Speaker 1: there was a comment made in one of the uh
Speaker 1: last BuzzFeed videos that wasn't that A woman jokingly was like,
Speaker 1: I like seeing men struggle, and the comments were filled
Speaker 1: with trolls being like, oh, this is so sexist because
Speaker 1: if a man would have said it, And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: if a man would have said it and it was
Speaker 1: if we were able to do that easy of an equation,
Speaker 1: then sexism wouldn't exist. That's why things are different. That's
Speaker 1: why I, you know, like it's it's it's it's like
Speaker 1: people just want to remove the nuance of things and
Speaker 1: make it equal when things aren't equal to begin with.
Speaker 1: And that's why you can't have these discussions as a
Speaker 1: thing of like, well, if X did it, this would
Speaker 1: be fine, or if X did this, this would be fine.
Speaker 1: If we can just take a big step back and
Speaker 1: talk about a poo and people off want to talk
Speaker 1: groundskeeper Willie and he's not talking about well what about
Speaker 1: the groundskeeper? Willie was like, well, you know, you could
Speaker 1: probably go on TV and find a hundreds of different
Speaker 1: portrayals of Scottish people and out of that you will
Speaker 1: have good portrayals and there would be enough to surmise
Speaker 1: that this character is a joke. But when you have
Speaker 1: one South Asian perception of someone and that becomes the baseline,
Speaker 1: that becomes the barometer for people of what South Asian
Speaker 1: slash Indian people are like, that's when it's a problem
Speaker 1: when you don't when you are using stereotypes, because that
Speaker 1: is a pooh, whether it want to admit it or not,
Speaker 1: is the only Indian people of Indian person that some
Speaker 1: people know. There are some people who have never met
Speaker 1: an Indian person in their life and they're only information
Speaker 1: on what they're like, and they and and through the show,
Speaker 1: I will admit they probably learned some good stuff. They
Speaker 1: probably learned like information about his religion. Information like there's
Speaker 1: stuff that the show does right, but that accent and
Speaker 1: the fact that, like, you know, you have someone like
Speaker 1: Harry Kondoboulu who can go around and find all these
Speaker 1: other Indian people who said they've been called Apu in
Speaker 1: a disparaging way. You have to take a seat and
Speaker 1: stop being like, oh, because I'm not racist with it,
Speaker 1: then everything's fine, and I and and you know, because
Speaker 1: that's a bad way to look at it, because one,
Speaker 1: if you really had empathy and compassion, you wouldn't just
Speaker 1: be using yourself as the barometer of if something's bad
Speaker 1: and how something makes you feel, especially when you're not
Speaker 1: the one affected. Whoa this went from a bliss con
Speaker 1: talk to uh talk about you know, um well, that's
Speaker 1: usually how all episodes go at this point, be restating it.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like whatever, um uh but yeah, rosta
Speaker 1: Con I think that And that was the cheerry on
Speaker 1: top is rosta Con was. If it was other name I,
Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't even be having this combo. But I
Speaker 1: think it's one of those things where it is like
Speaker 1: I like almost in the sense of like to take
Speaker 1: it back where it's something that seems funny, but it's
Speaker 1: just in the just not enough. There's not enough other
Speaker 1: representation to get away with this stuff. And I think
Speaker 1: that's just general in general. What what the barometer is
Speaker 1: is is there enough other representation awhere? Like you can
Speaker 1: look at this and be like, oh, this is goofy,
Speaker 1: but at least we can see this dope version of
Speaker 1: the representation here now. Um And and it's such a
Speaker 1: bummer too because I can definitely separate this issue and
Speaker 1: the gameplay. And the gameplay was so good. I had
Speaker 1: a great time playing with you. If he I love
Speaker 1: my deck, I would love to play the same game
Speaker 1: but switcher decks and see how that would play out.
Speaker 1: It was such a good, well balanced game. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's in the But the fun thing about this
Speaker 1: and it being a car thing is it is something
Speaker 1: that can be just toned down and changed, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's literally just you know, if if we go
Speaker 1: in and the voice lines aren't insane, you know, like
Speaker 1: you know, Bob Marley quotes all over the place, and
Speaker 1: then it's like then it's cool, no harm, no foul.
Speaker 1: But I do think and people will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're more sensitive, and I don't think I and I
Speaker 1: genuinely think and take it from me, the guy who
Speaker 1: gets paid to tell jokes, who sometimes there have been
Speaker 1: some jokes that I've had to cut out because you know,
Speaker 1: if you can't always be woke. Uh, you know, no
Speaker 1: one is being more sensitive. We're just finally in a
Speaker 1: time where everyone can be heard for better or for worse. Uh.
Speaker 1: And and so I I think and even discussions like these,
Speaker 1: are we saying that they should cancel this expansion? Now?
Speaker 1: Are we saying that this this needs to be deleted? No?
Speaker 1: I think all we're saying is it's something to think
Speaker 1: about and something going forward that we can kind of
Speaker 1: be more conscious of. And I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: what Harry was doing, is is something to think about
Speaker 1: and something to be more conscious going forward. And don't
Speaker 1: take it as an opportunity to defend yourself because there's
Speaker 1: nothing really to defend. You don't have to defend yourself.
Speaker 1: We'd just like you to go forward and be more conscious.
Speaker 1: But keep making these dope packs because god dang it,
Speaker 1: if this thing ain't fun. Um that was that was
Speaker 1: bliss con But overall, I think final thoughts you forgot
Speaker 1: one game? Which game? Did I forget? You forgot Warcraft three?
Speaker 1: Oh oh man? What a what a what an accidental?
Speaker 1: But wait there's more. Yes, this was a game that
Speaker 1: I actually, um glad not even reminded me. I was
Speaker 1: purposely saving it four last because no, no, but I
Speaker 1: did forge. I was saving it for last, and I
Speaker 1: did forget. As is want to happen at the end
Speaker 1: of my ram. This was one of the best moments
Speaker 1: for me because not only was it something that I
Speaker 1: feel is a long time coming, but I called it
Speaker 1: the night before. Jeff Kenyada was like, what do you
Speaker 1: think they're gonna announce? And I was just going like
Speaker 1: down the list, and I was like, I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a Warcraft three remaster because it's about that time,
Speaker 1: because we just had that StarCraft re release and I
Speaker 1: was like, so it's about that time. So when that happened,
Speaker 1: I not only was I hyped, but I was feeling
Speaker 1: that vindicated like calling something, but also kicking myself in
Speaker 1: a boat because I was like, I should have tweeted it,
Speaker 1: because I would have been that would have been dope.
Speaker 1: As every time you like privately call something you're like
Speaker 1: should have tweeted it. But yeah, we're getting no Warcraft
Speaker 1: three reforging. You're gonna experience the beloved real time strategy
Speaker 1: game like never before, new art, new updated models, and
Speaker 1: it looks good. Yeah. I think all three of us
Speaker 1: have the chance to play it. And the demo we
Speaker 1: got to play was the culling of strathel Horn, which
Speaker 1: is a big moment in the Warcraft universe. It is
Speaker 1: what turns Arthur's into the Lynch King. It is the
Speaker 1: first steps into that, and it kind of closes off
Speaker 1: with that kind of moment with him and mel Gannis
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, man, I remember playing this
Speaker 1: in the raid. It's crazy to actually play the RTS
Speaker 1: version because I got I had three and Frozen Throne,
Speaker 1: but I never played the game because I was playing
Speaker 1: as a Dota um, not being good at it, just
Speaker 1: playing it. Uh So I'm very curious if people are
Speaker 1: gonna take the three remaster and make Dota again, make
Speaker 1: Dota classic. Everything's getting classic versions. I can see that happening. Um,
Speaker 1: I just had to get used to that pointing click
Speaker 1: uh way of playing again. I haven't played that in
Speaker 1: a long time. Maybe you should pick up some mobus,
Speaker 1: so you're probably right. Uh. When I after just getting
Speaker 1: used to control again, it just felt like I was
Speaker 1: playing like a teenager again. It was so smooth. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a lot more work that they're going to do
Speaker 1: to it, obviously, but I love the experience and to
Speaker 1: experience that big moment again with Artist and him going
Speaker 1: down the pathway of darkness, which him eventually becoming a
Speaker 1: litch king, it was really cool and I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to playing that game. So yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: a fun and interesting level for them to have you
Speaker 1: play because it's kind of like a dark level because
Speaker 1: the concept of the coloring of Shota Home is this
Speaker 1: is during Warcraft three, uh, where there was a play
Speaker 1: going around turning people into these beasts, and Artists says
Speaker 1: that everyone in this town is infected and the only
Speaker 1: way to deal with him is to kill these innocent people.
Speaker 1: And Jana is like you know Bay at the time,
Speaker 1: and you know Uther both turn their backs on them
Speaker 1: and leave because they don't want to do it. He's
Speaker 1: going down that righteous but evil path of like I
Speaker 1: gotta do what's right, and so you're going against the
Speaker 1: demon and trying to kill the innocent people before he
Speaker 1: can turn them into demons. And uh it was a
Speaker 1: fun mechanic, like you get to kill him, but he
Speaker 1: would always come back like two minutes later, but that
Speaker 1: would give you a chance to kill freely. Yeah you
Speaker 1: are yeah, yeah, it was great. It was it's it's
Speaker 1: it was so interesting to see that again for someone,
Speaker 1: especially as someone who like played the lich King like
Speaker 1: Wrath of lich King and went through I was running
Speaker 1: uh uh Strathahorn a few times because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get that mount. Still don't have it. Uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know that still drop, it still drops, but it it's
Speaker 1: like a one person you know. Yeah. I tried to
Speaker 1: during Vanilla and would be I would go there, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, every thirty minute. Let's take a quick Vanilla
Speaker 1: break to talk about the b s which I'm wanted,
Speaker 1: the changes which I can't wait for these Vanilla Classic
Speaker 1: heads to try. So you would roll for stuff. I
Speaker 1: want to get into this. Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: You would roll for stuff. But the way you would
Speaker 1: do it is whoever is the designated raid leader would
Speaker 1: get the item and then they would have you use
Speaker 1: the in game macro to roll and whoever got the
Speaker 1: highest did it, But if you were pugging a guild raid,
Speaker 1: you were oftentimes gonna get screwed because because what would
Speaker 1: happen is you would roll and they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: Buff des One, well Eric's actually in our clan, so
Speaker 1: we're going to give it to him, and you're like,
Speaker 1: wait what it was like? It was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where I wanted to
Speaker 1: ghost Dad someone. Can I still say ghost Dad people?
Speaker 1: Ghost Dad is that scene and goes Dad when Bill
Speaker 1: Cosby would go through the phone and choke the dude.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I can ghost Dad people anymore.
Speaker 1: We need a ghost Dad reboot, is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. But yeah, when I played, when I was
Speaker 1: really into serious rating, I would there will be points
Speaker 1: that you can't do. There's still around nowadays, but back then,
Speaker 1: when you want to get into a serious rating guild,
Speaker 1: you have to actually apply, like a job. You have
Speaker 1: to go to the forums and apply, Like you have
Speaker 1: the character you want to be your main, Like you
Speaker 1: say you're a healer, you gotta apply with that character.
Speaker 1: I had a Holy Paladin and I'd apply. I I
Speaker 1: did this several times. I had to go to the
Speaker 1: forum and if the the the guild that I wanted
Speaker 1: to be in wasn't on the server, I would look
Speaker 1: on other service and I had to pay twenty five
Speaker 1: bucks per character to transfer to a service. Still that
Speaker 1: still exists, but it was such a big deal and
Speaker 1: people will actually interview you on vent or team speak
Speaker 1: and if you pass it cool, then you have to
Speaker 1: pay to get transferred over. And sometimes you're not even
Speaker 1: fully into the rating guild. Sometimes you have to wait
Speaker 1: outside to be able to get a spot. Possibly you
Speaker 1: have to like earn your keep then. Uh. Some guilds,
Speaker 1: like the ones I was in, Uh, they had a
Speaker 1: system called d k P Uh I forgot what have
Speaker 1: stand for dragon something? Yeah, dragon cable where where? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Dragon kill points? If you don't know what it is. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's basically you would earn points every time you would
Speaker 1: raid with your guild, and you use these points to
Speaker 1: cash in to buy uh whatever drops. And back then
Speaker 1: everyone didn't get a drop like they do now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you wanted a tier item, one tier item would
Speaker 1: drop per class usually or basically you have to fight
Speaker 1: for one tier item against seven other people in a
Speaker 1: forty man raid group. Oh, I had a player follow
Speaker 1: me one time. It's better suited to my character. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of politics going on back then, so I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that's going to come back at some point
Speaker 1: when this class and then people were like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is I mean, look, while Classic
Speaker 1: had some great things going on with it and introduce
Speaker 1: a lot of people like myself into MMOs, but it
Speaker 1: also had issues, which wow, nowadays for the most part,
Speaker 1: doesn't We don't have to deal with now because it
Speaker 1: does all that for you, and it keeps cheaty, scummy
Speaker 1: people from getting their hands on your gear just to
Speaker 1: give it to their Lobi friend who didn't even do
Speaker 1: nothing during the raid. He was playing DBS. I'm the
Speaker 1: one off tanking. You give me the Are you gearing
Speaker 1: him up? Na, you better run the Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like so relieved when I got to the
Speaker 1: point where I just transmog things. So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I look real cool right now. My night alf Boomkin.
Speaker 1: But yeah, people were like cut throat, and you were saying,
Speaker 1: it's like applying for a job. People also treated it
Speaker 1: like a job, you know, when you clock in on
Speaker 1: time so that you get paid and stuff. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: would show up and it's so incredible because these people
Speaker 1: are from like around the world, you know, complete strangers
Speaker 1: and they are showing up at the same time so
Speaker 1: we can take down this, you know. But that was
Speaker 1: cool though. It was it made that community. Uh if
Speaker 1: you were into like a serious rating guild that was
Speaker 1: that strive on the community and you built like a
Speaker 1: bond with it, which was really cool. Um. I mean
Speaker 1: it's still around nowadays, but not as prevalent to how
Speaker 1: it was before. Um, like people wore a rally around
Speaker 1: to get like, uh, certain things to help software out
Speaker 1: that is needing of gear or whatever if you were
Speaker 1: in that nice guild. Uh. Yeah, but I would say
Speaker 1: it is still around, And I think that's a good
Speaker 1: jumping off point to kind of give my clothes and
Speaker 1: thoughts on blizz Con, because you know, I really did
Speaker 1: get just kind of get back in a while. But
Speaker 1: I've always been playing one or one Blizzard Pop property
Speaker 1: or the other. And one thing that I think really
Speaker 1: made me enjoy bliss Con was seeing all these guilds
Speaker 1: me guilties meet each other for the first time, and
Speaker 1: you saw the one that we had to take a
Speaker 1: picture of right in front of Sylvanus was a guild. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there was all these guilds meeting up and like
Speaker 1: just like having experiencing a company that has brought them together.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yeah, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: And I really do enjoy the community that blizz Blizzard
Speaker 1: tries to build and continues to build. And I'm really
Speaker 1: excited for not only next year's con uh and hopefully
Speaker 1: we'll be seeing each other in the same place. Probably
Speaker 1: not at the same time. Uh, it's in the future.
Speaker 1: Times different in that way. But you know, I add
Speaker 1: one epiphany. As I was walking around Blizz for the
Speaker 1: first time, I had this little epiphany. It was huge
Speaker 1: for me. I realized if I ran down this hall
Speaker 1: and said, people would know what that means. And I
Speaker 1: felt like, damn, I have come home. Well how about
Speaker 1: you tell people where you can find you. I am
Speaker 1: at Hello Underscore Molika on Twitter and Instagram. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: at the Vicious fool At on Instagram and Twitter, and
Speaker 1: people can catch you all on the hyper RPG twitch. Right. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that is our home home. Sorry, I forgot to say, well,
Speaker 1: I we pretty much worked there. Yeah, yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: I show up. They're from time to time and on
Speaker 1: my Twitch if ds as y'all all know. Uh and
Speaker 1: if you way on Twitter and Instagram, I f y
Speaker 1: n w A d I w E. I'm spelling it now.
Speaker 1: Ever since that one person said they were spelling my
Speaker 1: name like if you with two s Whitey Way. Uh,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna help you out. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: get how they might have got that trying to spell
Speaker 1: it out. Oh man, But you know, this was a
Speaker 1: good time, and you know, definitely tune in tomorrow for
Speaker 1: your regularly scheduled Nerdificent where we will be dropping an
Speaker 1: episode about street Fighter. It's uh long and convoluted and
Speaker 1: fun all around, but it's a good time. Thanks for
Speaker 1: popping by and listening to us ramble about Blizzard, and
Speaker 1: as always, stay nerdy. M