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Right now, 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: West Texas Intermedia crewed up one percent, advancing forty three 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: cents of arrel forty eighty seven right now on West 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: Texas Intermedia crued. Brent Crew down six tenths of one percent, 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Gold rallying twenty seven dollars announced to thirteen fifty, up 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: by two percent, and the tenure of eighteen thirty seconds 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: at yield one point five four percent, SMP five hundred, 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: indecks up three to eighty three, a gain of one 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: tenth of one percent down, Industrials up twenty four a 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: gain of one tenth of one percent ends and to 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: stack up by three tents of one percent. I'm Charlie Pellot, 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: and that's a Bloomberg Business Flash. You're listening to Taking 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Stock with pim Box on Bloomberg Radio. The shares of 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: Spectra Energy are higher by nearly fifteen percent today after 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: Canada's Enbridge says that it is buying the Houston based 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: company for a twenty eight billion dollar price tech it's 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: going to create the largest energy pipeline and storage company 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: in North America. Here to tell us more, Tim Low, 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: energy reporter for Bloomberg News. Tim, thanks very much for 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: coming in. Tell us Why does Canada's Enbridge want this deal? Sure, well, 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. The primary reason is, you know, 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: coming out of this energy downturn that we've been undergoing 30 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the pipeline companies, the midstream sector. Uh, 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: there's a sense that there's security and being bigger and 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: being faster, being you know, stronger should there be another downturn, 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: and this is a play at that. Uh. It would 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, the biggest ever by by a Canadian company 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: in another country. So they're really sitting their sites pretty 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: high with this one. So Tim is part of this 37 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: that given uh expense, given all the regulator hurdles you 38 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: have to jump through, and then most famously Keystone Excel 39 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: being blocked that it's just hey, why try to buy buy, 40 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: especially if you're already big to snap up the existing 41 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: ones as fast as you can. Absolutely, it kind of 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: sort of like the old adage, you know, you don't 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: appreciate what you have until crisis hits. There's a it's 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: getting harder and harder to to build these pipelines, these huge, 45 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: massive infrastructure projects that can span half a continent, um 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: through whether it's environmentalist sentiment trying to prevent the projects 47 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: from being built, uh, regulatory hurdles. So um, there's sort 48 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: of a maybe a new appreciation for the pipelines that 49 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: already exist and as you said, easier to buy than 50 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: to build, Easier to buy than to build. Indeed, is 51 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: there any regulatory issue that we need to be mindful of. Well, 52 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: it'll have to go through all the usual regulatory um hurdles, um, 53 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 1: you know, shareholder votes. But the sentiment that I've kind 54 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: of talking to investors and analysts today is pretty bullish 55 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: on this. I think it makes sense, Uh, it'll be 56 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: good for shareholders, and there doesn't seem to be a 57 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: whole lot of concern. I just love what the Spectra's 58 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: CEO said, will be the FedEx of the pipeline business. 59 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: We ship, we pick up, we store product absolutely. And 60 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: what he might have added to that is you know 61 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: where exactly And that's part of the point, which is everywhere. 62 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: UH and Bridge obviously is a huge player in Canada. 63 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Specter has been putting a lot of resources into assets 64 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: along the Mexican border. UH and they have, you know, 65 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: some of the premier pipelines in the US. So this 66 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: will really create a company. Some are calling it what 67 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: could be, you know, the first super major UH pipeline company. 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why they're doing this deal 69 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: because over the summer, the Canadian High Court next a 70 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: project that approval for end Bridge to build a pipeline 71 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: to the west coast of Canada to export their oil. 72 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: Some people think that might have something to do with it. UH. 73 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: And again it plays into the sort of theory that 74 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: it's getting easier just to you know, cobble together assets 75 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: rather than try to build new ones. Um. Tim, just 76 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: a quick comment if you would, on a story that 77 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: was brought to my attension but mostly today, but you've 78 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: already written your team started written about it last week 79 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: about a North Dakota pipeline involves four states, it's facing protest, 80 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: it's potentially it may not be blocked, but I guess 81 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: it just for our listeners who may not be following that. Again, 82 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: it just kind of illustrating why this is so important 83 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: to buy existing pipelines. Absolutely. In fact, there were arrests 84 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: made last week at some of the protests. It's the 85 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: code of access pipeline. UH spearheaded from Energy Transfer, which 86 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: is a company that you know, tried to follow a 87 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: similar playbook when they tried to purchase Williams Company last year. 88 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: That deal inevitably fell through, um and UM. But yeah, 89 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: so the sort of the environmental movement is more organized 90 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: than in the past. They're able to Keystone was a 91 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: prime example. And what did UH Trans Canada end up 92 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: doing after the Keystone didn't come through earlier this year, 93 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: they went out and they bought Columbia Pipeline Group, So 94 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: similar playbook. All right, well, Tim, well, thank you so 95 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: very much as you as a story develops, will look 96 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: forward to having you back on taking stock. Thank you 97 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: so much. Energy reporter for Bloomberg News. Now let's get 98 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: to Mark n Catt, Government reporter for Bloomberg News in Columbus, 99 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Ohio today, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton getting ready to go 100 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: to battle in the battleground states. Two months now left 101 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: before the election. This is Clutch time mark welcome back. So, uh, 102 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: where what are you seeing today? Who are you talking to? Well, 103 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: we're kind of following up the Labor Day unofficial kickoff 104 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: of the final sprint to the election. Obviously we have 105 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: a much longer campaign cycle, but you know, traditionally a 106 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: lot of people start paying attention after the summer vacations 107 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: and are over in school starts after Labor Day, and 108 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: we're sort of following what states the campaigns are targeting. Um. Today, 109 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in the battleground states of Virginia and 110 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hillary Clinton is in Florida. But yesterday all 111 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: four principles on both sides were in Ohio, maybe the 112 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: key battleground states and former as in Bill Clinton was 113 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: also in Ohio yesterday sort of for Labor Day events. 114 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: And what we're seeing is sort of the map really 115 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: sort of focused on the key states are going to 116 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: really decide this election, and in the case of Donald Trump, 117 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: particularly in the industrial Midwest states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, 118 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: that he really needs to win if he's gonna get 119 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: electoral votes needed to win the presidency. Mark, there are 120 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: what sixty four days to go before the election, in 121 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: just seventeen days before the first early voting begins. What 122 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: kind of organization does Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have, 123 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: let's say, in Florida right now. Well, we're seeing stories emerged, 124 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: including one that my colleagues at Bloomberg Politics put out 125 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: the last week, that suggests Donald Trump is far behind 126 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton in terms of the so called ground game. 127 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: This is the get out to vote machinery, registering voters 128 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: and getting your supporters to the polls, including getting folks 129 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: to vote early to bank those votes. And the reporting 130 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: we're seeing on the ground is that, you know, Hillary 131 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: Clinton has a pretty robust campaign organization and state like 132 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Florida and also in Ohio where I'm based, in some 133 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: cases just sort of uh taking and expanding the ground 134 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: game operation that Barack Obama ran in two thousand and 135 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: eight and two thousand twelve in those states, and Trump 136 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: is behind trying to sort of gear up uh ground 137 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: game operations in these states, in part because Trump is 138 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: sort of outsourced the ground game activity that a campaign 139 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: usually coordinates or or uh participates into the Republican National 140 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: Committee or the Republican parties in these states. And that 141 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: just means it was a late start and also fewer 142 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: resources that are being devoted to the ground game, Mark, 143 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: can you tell? Um? And then as you look at 144 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: the battleground states and what Hillary Clinton is doing now, 145 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: she was sort of pulling back and raising a lot 146 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: of money. Now she's going to come out swinging again. 147 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Are are she being asked much about the latest FBI 148 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: memo on her email us? Just this is it only 149 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, political junkies and reporters who are so interested 150 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: in this is voting public to get a sense that 151 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: they are paying attention to this, we'll see. I mean, 152 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: I think you're right, there's there's a there's a sense 153 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: that a lot of this has already baked in that 154 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, the people who are paying attention have already 155 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: accounted for this. Either they care or they don't care 156 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: about the email scandals involving Hillary Clinton and also the 157 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: questions about her involvement with the Clinton Foundation and her 158 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: time as Secretary of State. But like I said before, 159 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: we were sort of the phase of the campaign now 160 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: where you know, people who haven't been paying attention and 161 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: not unlike political junkies you know, living and breathing this campaign, 162 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: are really sort of looking and tuning in for the 163 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: first time. UM. And we'll see, if you know, how 164 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: much way those particular issues have on them. And I 165 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: think a lot is going to be determined, frankly by 166 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: the debates this cycle. Um. A lot of voters already 167 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: know Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and to the extent 168 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: that they haven't paid attention, I think the debates will 169 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: will help crystallize for them, you know, one way or 170 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: the other, how they feel about the issues that are 171 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: important or help them decide the race, including you know, 172 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: their views about the email situation with Hillary Clinton and 173 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: as well as the use of the Clinton Foundation. Just 174 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: quickly market third parties, whether it be libertarian or Green Party, 175 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: Are they going to have an effect on the election results? 176 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: They could, And they're sort of a parlor game going 177 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: on right now to determine sort of who do they hurt? 178 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: If if you sort of start from the premise that 179 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's unlikely a third party candidate could win 180 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: an election, you know, where does the votes go or 181 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: come from? Uh? If if it will goes to a 182 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: Green Party or libertarian, does it pull votes from Hillary Clinton, 183 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: for example, or help Donald Trump? UM and and we're 184 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: starting to see, you know, analysis, even at the state 185 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: level and in these battleground states about you know what 186 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: impact the third party vote can have. Thanks very much 187 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: for joining us. Mark and Nutt is a government reporter 188 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg News. He's joining us from the battle ground 189 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: state of Ohio. He's in Columbus. He can be followed 190 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: on Twitter at m niquette. You're listening to taking Stock. 191 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm pim Fox, my co host Kathleen Hayes, and this 192 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg. Yeah,