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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty eight, Episode five,

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Speaker 1: Judge Zeitgeist Podcast, where we take a deep dive intue

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Speaker 1: American share kind of just as this Friday, February eight,

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine, team and names Jack O'Brien a k oh,

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Speaker 1: whoa brun Oh? Whoa brun den? And and and then

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Speaker 1: and then and and that for you U, the heat

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Speaker 1: is on. I don't know the lyrics, just that oh

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Speaker 1: part and I'm sure to be joint as always buy

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Speaker 1: my co host, Mr Miles Yes at Miles of Gray

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Speaker 1: a k A hashtag what's wrong with Miles Gray lazily

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Speaker 1: robbed from some promotional hashtag Twitter recommended that is spot

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Speaker 1: on at Roman King. Yeah, so shout out to the

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Speaker 1: movie The Prodigy for using my name. Okay, but it's

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Speaker 1: you know, look, Miles is are having a good year

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Speaker 1: a year right now with the Spider Verse. You got

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Speaker 1: Miles Morales okay, and I got this sick kid, Miles. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: the years looking good, I think at least for some Miles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's not like a Trump of kids who does

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Speaker 1: something pretty and realistic. I'm pretty sure he's like a

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Speaker 1: ghost or possessed by the devil or. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what's on the trailer. Yeah, yeah, he's uh the undead. Well,

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Speaker 1: when you use the hashtag, it shows like a boy

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Speaker 1: with a half human half DEMONI face. So I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a commentary on mixed phrase kids. Probably almost.

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Speaker 1: My grandmother would say, she's like, that's that Japanese. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I assumed. And we're started to be joined

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Speaker 1: by the hilarious comedian and performer Katia Covinge. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the U S. Yes, I like the always stop

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Speaker 1: in when whenever you're in country. Where did your travels

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Speaker 1: take you? Uh where? Not to America? No? No? Before Um,

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Speaker 1: well I was back in London, but I did a

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Speaker 1: tour around Europe, so I did a bunch of shows,

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Speaker 1: did nine countries in four weeks. So it was nut

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Speaker 1: to chill, but it was really great experience. And uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: just then did the refringe and um back in Lea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the weather is yeah, I've brought this, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: love it gives me a reason to wear hoodies and jackets,

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Speaker 1: which I don't get to. I just wear it in

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Speaker 1: the A C buildings. All right, Katya, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're

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Speaker 1: talking about today Today. We're talking about the showdown between

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Speaker 1: the NYPD and Ways. I'm team Ways, but I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they're you know, they're they're probably an evil tech company

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Speaker 1: that I think they're owned by Google. Actually, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: team Google. I mean they said at the outset don't

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Speaker 1: be evil and have stuck to that perfectly. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about Campbell's wanting to own the adjective chunky. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about Beetlejuice the musical. Uh not really, just

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Speaker 1: that is a thing. We're gonna talking about the twenty

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Speaker 1: one Savage deportation meme. It was kind of it's kind

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Speaker 1: of been memed all over the social networks, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's actually a kind of a fucked up story that

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Speaker 1: is representative of a fund up thing that is happening

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Speaker 1: in America. So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about Tucker Carlson going economically populist and just why

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Speaker 1: that's a weird fit, but also why that is probably

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Speaker 1: the move right now. Uh, And we'll talk about medicare

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Speaker 1: for all and why that looks like it's going to

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Speaker 1: get bloody. But first, Katya, we like to ask our guest,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 1: who you are? Oh? I don't know if it's revealing.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll be d I was looking through my

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Speaker 1: search history, and my most recent search was there's this

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Speaker 1: guy who makes loads of art of spoons. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I get his name though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: spoon and creations. That's the guy there is. He makes

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Speaker 1: like clocks and juicilary and stuff out spoons and like

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Speaker 1: pencil going through your head or or have her. It's

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Speaker 1: like proper dad jokes. Yeah, so are you? Is just

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Speaker 1: something you're gonna work into your set. Yeah, good old

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Speaker 1: process like spoon musical, like like climbing the foods together

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Speaker 1: like that, right on the spoon guy some early Steve

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Speaker 1: Martin though he did he did arrows through the head stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where that got him might be. I'm surprised people don't

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Speaker 1: how many we're the prop comedians. Yeah, we're the good,

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Speaker 1: I I just picture all of his jokes somehow involving

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Speaker 1: That's what Vegas will do to. Yeah, what is something

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Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Uh? Well I have for overrated.

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Speaker 1: Underrated kind of the same thing like, um, well, well

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Speaker 1: so for overrated, um I think kind of like people

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Speaker 1: doing this tour around Europe, I was listening to meditation

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Speaker 1: your life. And I had my eyes closed and when

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Speaker 1: me wine king looking it was manifesting too hard and

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Speaker 1: you guys didn't an't auspicious beginning. Yeah, but I was

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Speaker 1: also thinking like Scottish people, like I used to do

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Speaker 1: they'll be like, oh, the Olympics and Scottish people that

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Speaker 1: it's overrated. Well I was a royal family that it's overrated,

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Speaker 1: or like oh it's the napocat lives are like it's overrated.

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Speaker 1: But there's this like brand of drink called Iron Brew

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Speaker 1: and it's the slogan is like phenomenal, So they're like,

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Speaker 1: I'm phenomenal, but like iron Brew, this is from my

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Speaker 1: underrated um. They actually are in Scotland. It's the only

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Speaker 1: country where I'm brewing out sells Coda Cola really b

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Speaker 1: And it's like an orange drink and it tastes kind

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Speaker 1: of like bubble gum fantasy Land. It's really bizarre. But

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Speaker 1: it's not an alcoholic beverage. No, No, it's like room.

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Speaker 1: So like I know, American marketing makes that be like

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Speaker 1: it's for fucking guys. Who eat molten steel, you know,

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Speaker 1: just sipping in iron brew. The most popular drinking bars

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Speaker 1: in Scotland is iron brew and vodka. So okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like so sugarly, so caffeinated. Is there a nickname

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Speaker 1: for iron Brew with vodka? I have no idea. Give

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Speaker 1: me IBV real quick. Now does Mountain Dew exist? I

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Speaker 1: actually think it might be banned because I think something

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Speaker 1: remember it being that when I was a kid, I'd

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Speaker 1: because there are so many American products that are branded

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Speaker 1: Right well, because we all know Europeans are soft and

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Speaker 1: they care about their people. So yeah, we just it's

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Speaker 1: about freedom here. So if I want to drink chemicals

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Speaker 1: If I want cancer, I want cancer. That's my cancer.

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Speaker 1: It's from smoking, okay America? Uh oh, so that's the underrated?

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Speaker 1: Is iron Brew? All right, I need to check this

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Speaker 1: ship out. Yeah is it? It's not available anywhere, right,

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Speaker 1: It's like importing it. The most they have is like

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Speaker 1: You know, we're not good with brains here, you know,

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Speaker 1: What is a myth? Finally? What's something people think it's true?

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Speaker 1: You know to be false? Yeah? Well I find this

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Speaker 1: found out that all the sounds of the animals you hear,

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Speaker 1: the actual sounds that they create, so they put it

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Speaker 1: can all I can see is Celery. And did you

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Speaker 1: see how Netflix got David Edinburgh to do their version

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Speaker 1: like our motherfucker. Yeah that's the UK versus America. Like

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Speaker 1: and it's like did you know that the owl's birth

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Speaker 1: like and then then for three long weeks, yeah exactly so,

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Speaker 1: And to me, the kids are like wow, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: the evolutional life, I guess right. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: NYPD verse ways. Yeah, wasts? Do you still use ways?

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Speaker 1: I use ways sometimes it's actually good. I think in

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Speaker 1: certain areas it's good. And at certain times, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the most part it has its uses, and the

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Speaker 1: time might get an uber driver that's like I'm going

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Speaker 1: people don't know, like on ways, you can do stuff

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Speaker 1: Atlanta rap. It's a really really weird story because the

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Speaker 1: Ice rarely would comment on anything beyond the facts of

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Speaker 1: a detainee Immigration and Customs Enforcement, uh, the unnecessary immigration

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Speaker 1: police that have only been around like two thousand three

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Speaker 1: and are just meant to harass sort of immigrant populations,

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Speaker 1: or if you're on the right, you're like they're enforcing

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Speaker 1: our laws for people who come in here the right way. Again,

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Speaker 1: the whole there's a lot of just weird stuff around it.

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Speaker 1: You know. They want they painted him as like a

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Speaker 1: like a convicted felon and all these other things. When

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Speaker 1: he was caught up in a drug charge I think

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Speaker 1: when he was a miner, but that was expunged from

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Speaker 1: his record, and they're holding him without bond, which is

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Speaker 1: very bizarre because all of the details around his immigration,

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Speaker 1: like most people will have been released at this point,

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Speaker 1: because he was actually brought here at like age seven

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Speaker 1: and has you know, like like any dreamer would have

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Speaker 1: been as a miner, and you know, lost track of

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Speaker 1: his visa stuff. He's been applying for a visa. All

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Speaker 1: of his family members have like all their h immigration

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Speaker 1: status stuff sorted out. He's so he's been known to DHS.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's been sort of trying to like

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Speaker 1: skirt the law or anything. He's the process of obtaining

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Speaker 1: a visa, which is really strange for them to try

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Speaker 1: and detain him. And you know, again when you sort

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Speaker 1: of look at sort of what ICE has been up

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00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: to um and like the last year or like ending

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00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: in September of last year, there the ICE ordered about

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Speaker 1: you know, close to three thousand deportations and African immigrants

450
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Speaker 1: are representing the biggest proportional spike within this group. And

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, this is the ship the whole

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Speaker 1: country era of immigration. And there's also elements of retribution

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Speaker 1: because five days before he was detained, he was on

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Speaker 1: Fallon and was making comments about the border, like border security,

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Speaker 1: like the laws that were pursuing are just like what

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Speaker 1: you know, He's just he's basically saying like that this

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Speaker 1: whole thing is a fucking joke, and like why the

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Speaker 1: fund are we focused on this? Also, Flint, Michigan doesn't

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Speaker 1: have water. He was just really sort of outspoken about this.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people are like, this is really

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Speaker 1: a disproportionate response to what has happened, and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it just sort of seeps into this other thing of

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Speaker 1: like America's pattern of questioning and scrutinizing blackness or brownness

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Speaker 1: whenever possible to try and discredit it as being American.

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Speaker 1: And this is another situation where you have ICE doing

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Speaker 1: the thing where they dehumanize someone who's come here from

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Speaker 1: another country as dangerous criminal because they're like a convicted

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Speaker 1: felone okay, someone who made some dumb mistakes when they

469
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Speaker 1: were a kid. The record is expunged, okay, whatever, then

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Speaker 1: also saying that this guy is not who he says

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Speaker 1: he is, he's a phony. And again these are just

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Speaker 1: sort of ways to question, like is this person can't

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Speaker 1: even be American at this point? Yeah, maybe he came

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Speaker 1: when he was seven, but he's from the UK, And

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Speaker 1: I mean, like this guy's whole personas phony. That's just

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Speaker 1: like reeks smacks of like when what they were trying

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Speaker 1: to do to Barack Obama to also if he moved

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Speaker 1: here when he was seven, those are like the formative years,

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Speaker 1: Like I moved to Scotland when I was ten and

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Speaker 1: within two weeks I went from being like hell I'm

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Speaker 1: English to then like fucking all star okay, hell right right,

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Speaker 1: because you will like at stage seven, like wondering he's

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Speaker 1: got an American access well exactly, And I mean this

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Speaker 1: sort of goes on to the just sort of when

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Speaker 1: you think about the conditions of detention for people that

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Speaker 1: are caught in the ice snare, the A c. L

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00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: U points out that there are no regulations or real

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Speaker 1: standards regarding like enforcement conditions as we've known, because children

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00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: are dying in ice custody and things like that. But again,

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00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: there's this process of dehumanizing immigrants. There's no regulations for

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Speaker 1: how they're being detained. And then on top of it,

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Speaker 1: Hannah Jorgis in the Atlantic made a really good point

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Speaker 1: about just sort of this is an extension of the

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Speaker 1: myriad of ways that black and brown people are d

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Speaker 1: citizens essentially, whether it's through this overt process of ice

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Speaker 1: coming through and being like we're your papers, let me

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Speaker 1: see your papers, where were you born, how long you've

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Speaker 1: been here, how did you get here kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: or if it's the terror of racism, uh, and being

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Speaker 1: terrorized by racism to chase us out of neighborhoods or

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00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: areas to not feel welcome. This is just sort of

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Speaker 1: part and parcel of, you know, kind of what's on

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Speaker 1: brand for America in terms of being you know, black

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Speaker 1: and brown and even yeah, even if you're even if

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Speaker 1: you're a celebrity, even if you're the president. There's no height,

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Speaker 1: there's no height you can attain. And you were legitimately

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Speaker 1: born here, and you show your birth certificate to the

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Speaker 1: entire country, they're going to try to say that you're

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Speaker 1: from a different country here. I had something be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you foreigner Brits coming out here taking our acting jobs.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, your last name is O'Brien. It was before

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Speaker 1: we started recording, and I was like, well, you're you're

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Speaker 1: an Irish person by descend, Like yeah, but you're Fari

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, because I have an accent, I'm like

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Speaker 1: I'm American, Like yeah. It's really funny, the whole idea

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Speaker 1: of what nationality even means and things like that, and

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Speaker 1: it's again, it starts off being funny on Twitter as

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Speaker 1: like banter, you know, and I'm not even sure most

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Speaker 1: people still realize how serious the situation is, because there's

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Speaker 1: really not. When a lawyers, you know, they put out

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Speaker 1: a statement that really goes into a lot of the

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00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: ways that Ice has been just sort of misconstruing the

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Speaker 1: entire situation to fit some narrative of how this is justified.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like every turn from where he's at

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Speaker 1: in his visa application and things like that, that there's

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Speaker 1: really no reason for this, especially to be held without bond.

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Speaker 1: And he's on like twenty three one, like he's locked

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Speaker 1: down twenty three hours. Yes, And it's very clearly about

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Speaker 1: him going on Kimmel and saying things about Ice like,

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Speaker 1: I mean they I'm sure journalists can't be like obviously

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Speaker 1: it's that, but that's clearly what it is because he

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Speaker 1: did that five days ago. He's been in touch with them,

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Speaker 1: They've known where he was for years now, like he's

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta right before the Super Bowls in Atlanta. They

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Speaker 1: could have arrested him at any point, but it's five

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Speaker 1: days after he goes on Kimmela and says that, and

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Speaker 1: then they have a statement about how like he's persona

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Speaker 1: is public, Like what the funk are you like writing

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00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: for the source or something like? That's such a weird

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00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: like were we actually try and figure out who's actually hood?

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Speaker 1: That's ICE's place to make that comment. It's just so

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00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: like petty and vindictive and shitty and just racist. So yeah,

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00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: go do one. I speaking of all of those adjectives,

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson was early in January actually on his show,

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00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: gave a monologue where if you were watching or you

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Speaker 1: saw a clip of it, you might have felt like

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00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: you were having a stroke because he just like suddenly started.

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00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: It was like there's a truth translator on him or

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Speaker 1: something like the ship that he was saying in a

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Speaker 1: lot of cases, So he basically said, our our leaders

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Speaker 1: or heat. This is a this is a quote. He

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00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: didn't basically say this. This is what he literally said.

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Speaker 1: Our leaders don't care. We are ruled by mercenaries who

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Speaker 1: feel no long term obligation to the people they rule.

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Speaker 1: Their day traders, substitute teachers. They're just passing through. They

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00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: have no skin in the game, and it shows they

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00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: can't solve our problems. They don't even bother and understand

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00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: our problems. The idea that families are being crushed by

559
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: market forces seems never to occur to them. They refuse

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00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: to consider it. Questioning markets feels like apostasy. Both sides

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00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: missed the obvious point. Culture and economics are inseparably intertwined. Huh.

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Speaker 1: Certain economic systems allow families to thrive. Thriving families make

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00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: market economy as possible. You think our ruling class would

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: be interested in knowing the answer, but mostly they're not.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that he focused on like substitute teachers, but

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Speaker 1: basically he's making a critique of market capitalism as not

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00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: just a like tool that helps. But read that quote

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00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 1: that When you think about this quote as coming out

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00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: of Tucker Carlson's mouth, they think it makes this point.

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Speaker 1: But first Republican leaders will have to acknowledge that market

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Speaker 1: capitalism is not a religious I'm sorry, Tucker Carlson just

572
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: said that talism is a tool like a staple gun

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Speaker 1: or a toaster. You'd have to be a fool to

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Speaker 1: worship it. What Fox News excuse me is Alexandria Occagio

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00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: Cortez writing for Tucker Carlson. Right, It's very surprising in

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00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, but I mean, this is what

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00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Trump got elected on, partially is kind of economic populism,

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00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: just basically saying that there are billionaires out there who

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Speaker 1: are you know, and just corporations and you know, the

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Speaker 1: one percent who are holding working people down. He just

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00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: happened to pair that with racism, and then he also

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00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: happened to not follow through on that and actually follow

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00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: through with economic policies that are the opposite of that,

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00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: that are specifically designed to keep that in place. But

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Speaker 1: it does seem like people on both sides are going

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00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: to eventually come around to the fact that the truth,

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00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: I guess is that the system ships fucked. And I

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00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: think I was going to say that after the State

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00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: of the Union. But whoever is running in twenty just

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00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: needs to have the slogan, shit's fucked and we gotta

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00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: do something. And that applies to the left or the right,

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00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: you can figure. I think a lot of people. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think some people are still willing to do some

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Speaker 1: mental gymnastics and being denial that their situation has anything

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Speaker 1: to do with capitalism. But I think a lot of

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00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: people do feel that way. But it's odd too, because

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00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has now trying to, at least with the

598
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: State of the Union, almost try and slightly frame it

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Speaker 1: as capitalism verse socialism, because he said America will never

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Speaker 1: be a socialist country. But that's a slippery slope, my man,

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00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: because on one end, you can use that to, you know,

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00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: say like, oh, look at the economy, like let's keep

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00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: it going in this way. But a lot of people

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00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: are also of the mindset that the way things are

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00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: going are not good enough and are actually contributing to

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Speaker 1: the disproportionate UH incomes and things like that an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for You're seeing this on both sides with regards to

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Speaker 1: like mainstream like neoliberal democratic things. The people who used

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Speaker 1: to be neoliberal like market worshiping democrats are now you know,

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00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: all supporting medicare for all. And there's been this left

611
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: word shift to a policy that was, you know, proposed

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Speaker 1: by Bernie Sanders who in two thousands sixteen was seen

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Speaker 1: as like this crazy outside the box like leftist socialist,

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Speaker 1: which he you know, he is a socialist, but that

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00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: was seen as wild and I'm just curious now the

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00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: way it's manifesting itself on the right is Tucker Carlson's monologue.

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Speaker 1: But like, what is there? What is the rights version

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00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: of medicare for all and having a stronger social safety net?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it just authoritarianism? Is it just

620
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Speaker 1: like we should take over? And I don't I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure what their answer is, because if you're gonna acknowledge

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00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: the you know, inequality, there's no way to really do

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00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: that through a capitalist lens at the moment or at

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00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: least the market based solutions aren't very effective what we've seen,

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Speaker 1: like you, especially like when you talk about healthcare, like

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Speaker 1: they tried to do a market based sort of way

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00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, what's the market how can we

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00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: sort of work within that to make something work? And

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Speaker 1: it didn't it's or it's very there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: flaws in it that still benefit the market forces. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how the right can own it without sort

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Speaker 1: of also being like, yeah, actually we we focus on

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Speaker 1: with them too, like we do need to address this

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Speaker 1: stuff because I don't know what what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: tell billionaires that like, hey, can you guys just like

637
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Speaker 1: start little fun companies for people to work at? And

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Speaker 1: you know what, I like, I don't know. It's so

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Speaker 1: interesting as well, like the cultural difference, like my mom's Norwegians,

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Speaker 1: so they in Norway, you you know, you have the

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Speaker 1: ten commandments. The ten commandments here are like you must

642
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Speaker 1: not be bad to your neighbor. Or in Norway they

643
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Speaker 1: have a thing called which their tank. Their tank commendments

644
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Speaker 1: are you must not think you're better than anybody. You

645
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Speaker 1: must not stand out from the crowd. You must not

646
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Speaker 1: think you have anything like teach the crowd or show

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Speaker 1: the crowd. So their philosophy and you know upbringing is

648
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: so socialist, whereas in America, the it's like you can

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Speaker 1: do it, live your dreams, you know. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: almost like you can't be uh, you know, the amongst

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Speaker 1: the puppies, Like you have to be this whole puppy. Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And we've talked before about the study that showed a

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Speaker 1: fish that was like separated from a school of fish.

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Speaker 1: And in other countries they're like, oh, that fish is fucked.

655
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Speaker 1: It's like being isolated it did something bad. And in

656
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Speaker 1: America they're like, there's the leader. That's the George Washington fish.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think that's absolutely true of just

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Speaker 1: how we process things. And I'm actually really eager to

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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on this next story because a big

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Speaker 1: thing that if you're kind of paying attention to the

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Speaker 1: weeds of you know, all the people who are coming

662
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Speaker 1: out and declaring for the Democratic nomination for a big

663
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Speaker 1: argument that's taking place is, like we just mentioned, everybody

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Speaker 1: is now saying there for medicare for all, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: like specifically aligning themselves with Bernie Sanders policy. But there's

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Speaker 1: this question of whether it is, you know, a Medicare

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Speaker 1: for all where you do away with the entire private

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Speaker 1: insurance industry, which is like a multi trillion dollar industry.

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Speaker 1: Like that's basically what Bernie Sanders is calling for, and

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Speaker 1: that's what leftists are calling for, whereas neoliberals who are

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Speaker 1: saying there for Medicare for all seem a little bit

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Speaker 1: more wobbly on that. They're more like, well, you can

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Speaker 1: keep the private insurance industry, but then everybody would have

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Speaker 1: access to medicare. But leftists point that they're making is

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Speaker 1: that if you have a multi trillion dollar industry in

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Speaker 1: the United States, it's going to suffocate, like that public option,

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Speaker 1: it's going to keep lobbying, keep you know, hammering at

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Speaker 1: it until Medicare for all isn't a very good option. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that's with the NHS and the UK. Everyone keeps saying, oh,

680
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Speaker 1: the NHS is suffering, and oh it's the NHS isn't working,

681
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Speaker 1: but it's because they keep cutting the funding. And for

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Speaker 1: me personally, I think it's a fantastic thing and I

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Speaker 1: think they do a great job of what they have. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful for free healthcare. Um. And I

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Speaker 1: feel like any time I'm out here and I'm just

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Speaker 1: at stand up clubs, like telling the audience my health

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Speaker 1: issue because I'm like too scared to go to a

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Speaker 1: doctor right here, anyone a doctor? Yea. So around this growth,

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Speaker 1: NHS is your national healthcare service, national health service. And

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Speaker 1: when they're cutting the funding, is it the Conservatives who

691
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Speaker 1: are basically like, this is we need more of a

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Speaker 1: private ary keep saying exact We've had I mean Theresa

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Speaker 1: May and then it was David Cameron and and it's

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Speaker 1: like yeah, they keep saying, oh, we need to go private.

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Speaker 1: It's like yeah, because you keep cutting the funding, right right,

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Speaker 1: you're creating the situation. Yeah. I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 1: the thing is there's on inside. Yeah, I see the

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Speaker 1: argument to say, like, yo, let's do away with all

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Speaker 1: the private insurers. But then you have it's a very

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Speaker 1: tough political battle, right because when you look at the

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Speaker 1: a lot of the polling people they like the concept

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Speaker 1: of medicare for all, right, but when you actually go

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Speaker 1: into the mechanics of it, they're like, okay, well, then

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about it if we did it

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Speaker 1: and we got rid of your private insurance. But the

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Speaker 1: support drops down under thirty under forty, So the it's

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Speaker 1: guarantee health insurance as a right for all Americans seventy

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Speaker 1: one percent. Eliminate all health insurance premiums and reduce out

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Speaker 1: of pocket healthcare costs for most Americans sixty seven eliminate

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Speaker 1: private health insurance companies. Thirty seven percent favorite, And do

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Speaker 1: you favor or oppose having a national health plan? It's

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Speaker 1: fifty six and that's so that's the number fifty six,

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Speaker 1: and a majority supports, you know, a national healthcare plan,

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Speaker 1: which people are equating with with Medicare for all. But

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Speaker 1: what the interpretation of that is is a much trickier question.

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Speaker 1: And I've heard it argued, you know, both sides. I've

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Speaker 1: also heard people say, well, none of this is happening

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Speaker 1: in one So let's not make this the litmus test

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Speaker 1: where you just disqualify candidates because you're not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to put Bernie's vision in place in a

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Speaker 1: single year. So let's just you know, there are other

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Speaker 1: socialists values that can be put into place that are

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Speaker 1: more realistic. This does seem to be a place where

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Speaker 1: the rubber is hitting the road in terms of leftists,

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Speaker 1: first neoliberals. Basically, yeah, it's one of those things, right

726
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Speaker 1: Like Obama Care was trying to address it, but because

727
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Speaker 1: it took into consideration the market and the private insurance companies,

728
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Speaker 1: it just turned into this thing that wasn't really what

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Speaker 1: it was intended to. It was written by private insurance companies.

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Speaker 1: It's a CEO from a private insurance company, and it's like, right,

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Speaker 1: turn this up. Yes, And I think that's why some

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Speaker 1: people like it has to be all or none, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, And that's where it gets tricky because it

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Speaker 1: is such a huge industry. You have people who are

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Speaker 1: employed by these insurance companies. What are the mechanics of

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Speaker 1: trying to make that work? And it's one of those

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Speaker 1: things where I think the sentiment is there, but we

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Speaker 1: really have to really think about the creative ways that

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Speaker 1: we can actually get people to not have a reaction

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Speaker 1: to be like, oh, I'm gonna lose my private health

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Speaker 1: insurance because a lot of people who can afford their

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Speaker 1: own insurance. I think most people who are fortunate enough

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Speaker 1: to pay for or have employee provided insurance or whatever

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Speaker 1: employer provide insurance are fine with that, but it's right

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Speaker 1: when the second it starts being like, well we would

746
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Speaker 1: have to do away with that, you start losing support

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Speaker 1: and navigating that I think is going to be the

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Speaker 1: toughest thing. I just heard about that guy the UM

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Speaker 1: change the price from HIV medication to seven Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The amazing thing about that is when you asked perfectly

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Speaker 1: rational people uh about that, who are like work in

752
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Speaker 1: the markets, They're like, yeah, but what he's doing is

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00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: just that's logical. That's what you have to do. That's

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Speaker 1: what the market dictates. And it's like them with the market.

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Speaker 1: The market doesn't work, then it doesn't take humanity into

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Speaker 1: a credit. It just takes into how do I pump

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Speaker 1: up these profits. So in England and France, in Canada,

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Speaker 1: and I think in most Scandinavian countries there are private

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Speaker 1: insurance companies. Uh. They are sort of niche things for

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Speaker 1: very wealthy people of means. And the point is that

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Speaker 1: it's not the main thing, the private insurance supplement. It's supplemental.

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Speaker 1: It's not a multi trillion dollar industry. To get the

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Speaker 1: United States private health insurance industry down to the sizes

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Speaker 1: of those would require a thing that is completely unnatural

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Speaker 1: to America and to markets. Basically is the issues. So actually, Katia,

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Speaker 1: so in England and this is just like genuine curiosity.

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Speaker 1: Is being a doctor a prestigious like career and is

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Speaker 1: it like a one that you people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's a doctor, he does well like doctor lawyer going

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Speaker 1: into medicine or law those are the still the same,

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Speaker 1: like yeah? And is the health care like do you

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Speaker 1: have generally good experiences with healthcare? Like if I personally do, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I M. I know that I've heard that because I

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Speaker 1: live in London when I'm in the UK, that being

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Speaker 1: in London you you're more likely to be seen quicker

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Speaker 1: by the doctors for some reason. Then if you live

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Speaker 1: in the countryside, like in a suburban rural area, supposedly

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Speaker 1: there either maybe understaffed or um they're not able to

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Speaker 1: get the prescriptions that you might need. That's just what

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Speaker 1: I've heard. But I generally have had a really good experience.

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Speaker 1: But I have had situations where, especially if I've needed

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Speaker 1: something and I'm like, oh, I'm going out to America

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Speaker 1: and two weeks and they're like, well, on the NHS,

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Speaker 1: we won't be able to get that done for you,

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Speaker 1: so I have to go privately to get something dealt

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Speaker 1: with before and yeah, um yeah. And the question of

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Speaker 1: how the system would be set up, what the role

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Speaker 1: of private insurance companies would be, that is something that

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Speaker 1: you would expect all the Democratic candidates to have nuanced

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Speaker 1: ideas on and nuanced positions on, and they haven't. And

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Speaker 1: that's been a well that's the thing. Everyone just like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all funk with this, right, Yeah right, how are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do it? Fun? Right? Yeah right? Because this is

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00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: people like the politics of it, you know, but it's

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Speaker 1: the when you get down to the nitty gritty of

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Speaker 1: the policy. That's what we're going to start seeing, you know.

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Speaker 1: But hair fly from a user perspective, from a consumer perspective,

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Speaker 1: from the people's perspective, that is, the ideal is you

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Speaker 1: shrink the private insurance industry down to something that is

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Speaker 1: there if you need it, if the publicly available system

801
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Speaker 1: is not filling a need, like it's not getting you

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Speaker 1: the medicine quickly enough and you have to pay extra

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Speaker 1: because it is a private insurer, but it's not catering

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Speaker 1: to the needs of For instance, there was a leaked

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Speaker 1: slide presentation that the intercept published recently that was one

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Speaker 1: of Nancy Pelosi's main aids, basically presenting to the head

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Speaker 1: of Blue Cross Blue Shield and being like, look, we're

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Speaker 1: going to find a way to kill this Medicare for

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Speaker 1: all things because Blue Cross Blue Shield and big companies

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Speaker 1: like that Kaiser and you know, giant corporations are going

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Speaker 1: to do everything in their power to make it so

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Speaker 1: they don't have to shrink at all. Yeah. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: the problem with healthcare overhaul or healthcare reform in the

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Speaker 1: country is that it's such a moneyed industry. You're trying

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Speaker 1: to take down a gigantic industry. And then also you

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Speaker 1: have people who inherently are a little suspicious when the

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Speaker 1: government's trying to be like, oh, we have something for

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Speaker 1: you that's gonna work. So there's a lot of hearts

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Speaker 1: and minds that have to be changed really for it

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Speaker 1: to kind of have that meaningful change. And I hope

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Speaker 1: someone is able to communicate those ideas in a way

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Speaker 1: that can you know, get more support behind it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just going to be a very very interesting,

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Speaker 1: difficult debate because of you know, just the state of

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Speaker 1: the industry in the state of how lobbying and all

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Speaker 1: that works in this country. And like you said, Obama

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Speaker 1: had a public option in Obamacare until the very last

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Speaker 1: round of revisions, and then it got crushed by the

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Speaker 1: private insurance interests. And even if it had lasted, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you still would have had these markets where it probably

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Speaker 1: they found ways to regulate it, and the insurance companies

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Speaker 1: have stand a chance. They found a way to thrive

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Speaker 1: despite all that anyway, So that's you know, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean the main issue is America's like down to the

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Speaker 1: level of d n A like at a very cellular level,

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Speaker 1: America is organized on a principle of market economics, and

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Speaker 1: you're asking for them to change one of their largest

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Speaker 1: industries into something that doesn't function in like by that

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Speaker 1: logic at all, and it's gonna be tricky. But again,

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Speaker 1: the people are starting to come around. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: we talked about with Tucker Carlson is the same thing

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Speaker 1: we're talking about here. People are starting to wake up

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Speaker 1: to the fact that, you know, the vast majority of

844
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Speaker 1: Americans get fucked in favor of these extremely wealthy handful

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Speaker 1: of people who are at the type of corporations. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's good is that the will is there,

847
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: and I hope that only grows. And I think now

848
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: we just need to begin articulating this policy in a

849
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: way that can bring more people in and make it

850
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: a little more realistic for from a policy making standpoint

851
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: to of how to do this and do it in

852
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: a way that causes the least amount of damage possible.

853
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be

854
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, And guys, I want to

855
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: talk about Marie Condo and Cocoa, the movie Cocoa. Wow,

856
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: what a mash up? Mash up are they doing? All yeah,

857
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: they're doing a collab. Oh, she's gone through and just

858
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: kind of tidying up the places where they have the

859
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: pictures of their dead realities, Like what about this guitar

860
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: doesn't spark joy? No, So these are two kind of

861
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: pop cultural phenomena from the past couple of years that

862
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: seemed to be specifically about the fact that America, or

863
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: at least interesting to me from the perspective that America

864
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: doesn't make a place to honor our history or any

865
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: right exactly. But you only want to hold onto the

866
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: old gross ship, right, we literally pave over history and

867
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: put up like new buildings and malls, and like, our

868
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: biggest greatest city is New York City, where you may

869
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: live in a building where like the first woman voted

870
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: or like the first female vote was cast, but you

871
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't know it because there's like literally no sign of history.

872
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: It's just tear down, build up, tear down, build up, change.

873
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: Like in the UK we have like these blue plack

874
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: cards that buildings like the first owner of the Royal

875
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: Ballet School lived in this house. Yeah, like preserve it. Yeah,

876
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: And I think they even have some of those in

877
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: the United States in New York City, But I've never

878
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: noticed the Triangle Shirt Waist Company. Is that building still around?

879
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure like or there. I'm sure there's a recker

880
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: that says this is where it happened. But that's not

881
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: a thing that people pay attention to. People, right, people

882
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: go to Columbus Circle, to the shiny new mall there,

883
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, Times Square or whatever. And I think this

884
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: is down to our entire philosophy is about reinventing ourselves, right,

885
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: Like we like celebrities who constantly reinvent themselves. You know,

886
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: we like movies where the mentally handicapped, poor boxer today

887
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: turns into the heavyweight champion tomorrow. Or you know, our

888
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: biographies of great men revised their stories to be about them,

889
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: you know, going from pulling themselves up by their bootstraps

890
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: and totally just defying their background and we will write

891
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: out you know, Malcolm Gladwell wrote about how Bill gates

892
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: entire reason for being was defined by the fact that

893
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: his parents got him access to a computer that he

894
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: could program on at a young age, but that is

895
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: written out of the story. And you know, that's why

896
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: Disney is fascinated by orphans. And it's also you were

897
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: talking about manifesting, like manifest destiny is the founding philosophy

898
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: of the United States, sort of racing an entire millennia

899
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: of previous culture and people that lived here and ignoring

900
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: their role in taming the land and anyways, so now

901
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: into that culture we have Marie Condo and Cocoa. Marie

902
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: Condo came on the scene and I immediately assumed she

903
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: was the sort of self invented Western style huckster that

904
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: the self help industry typically turns out like a Tony

905
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: Robin Stipe, you know, But it turns out she grew

906
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: up studying, like she was a caretaker of a Shinto temple,

907
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: and it is part of a tradition that is essentially

908
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: Japan's national It's kind of like a religion, but it's

909
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: like part of I mean Shinto Buddhism is you know

910
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: the culture too. I mean a lot of the things

911
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: in Japanese culture, like taking your shoes off and like

912
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: that come from Shinto Shinto. And it's about connecting to

913
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: the past and honoring the past and having a way

914
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: to connect the present moment to the past. And a

915
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: lot of her focus and her process is evaluating your

916
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: relationship to an object and like what it represents of

917
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: your past and like what it reminds you of from

918
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: your past, and you know, she's waking up the object

919
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: to like she I think it's a lot about like

920
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: the power of these objects to be to connect us

921
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: to the past and like spark joy or not. Um well,

922
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: I think it's also about minimalism to write very you

923
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: know in japan are It's funny like hearing a lot

924
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: of people from the States talk about all this stuff,

925
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: it's like very Japanese stuff to me, and I'm like,

926
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: oh right, but like this is weird well, because I

927
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: think it's so it's almost antithetical to like United States

928
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: consumer culture, which is the accumulation of property, right, how

929
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: much she can I have the most of these things,

930
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: I have this many these things, and her whole thing

931
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: is like it's like about harmonizing with your environment, you know,

932
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: which is a very Japanese thing, like, you know, like

933
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: whether it's nature and flower ranging. This is sort of

934
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: like are the objects around you? Are they actually contributing

935
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: to a harm like a harmonious relationship with your surrounding.

936
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: So if you have this, does it give you a

937
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: good feeling? Is it energizing? Probably not useful, And I think, yeah,

938
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: there's a those are like kind of the two forces

939
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: butting up when I especially when I see a lot

940
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: of the the you know, at least people's takes on it. Right.

941
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: The only time in America I've ever felt connected to

942
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: the past is like when I'm in nature or when

943
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm in a foreign country where like they actually have

944
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: sort of an entire culture that is like built around

945
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: the past, basically as opposed to in the United States.

946
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: It's like we have suburbs and we have parking lots

947
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: that we just like pave over this and the people

948
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: who were here and do do give the land history.

949
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, and y'all can go over here on

950
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: your reservations and we're just gonna just build the wild

951
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: mini mall everywhere else. We were driving out to San

952
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: Francisco the other weekend for the SF Sketch Fest, and

953
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: we stopped off it was like this Dutch piece suit. Yeah. Yeah,

954
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: but it's kind of sweet because it looks like a

955
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: Tudor building with a Dutch windmill, like in British, Like

956
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: Tudor buildings are old British buildings, and I see that

957
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: a lot. Like people are like, oh my god, like

958
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: it is cute, like like ale House. I'm like, it's

959
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: the Tudor building that they've made two years ago, right right.

960
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: But I think that's what's cool about Coco too, is

961
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: how it introduces you to this whole culture that is

962
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: about honoring your relatives and honoring the past, Whereas in

963
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: America it's like your elders, right, like or your ancestors.

964
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: Whereas in America you kind of I mean it is

965
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: really like you want to look at the bleakness of

966
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: the American sort of ideology, go to nursing homes where

967
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: we just like shuttle off our old people to write

968
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: and kind of be by themselves and other cultures. You're like, yo,

969
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: when you get a certain age, mom and dad are

970
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: living with me, Yeah, and like not going anywhere because

971
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: we have we keep the family together. I just kind

972
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: of I really like the whole idea of a lot

973
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: of people having to ask themselves if their items bring

974
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: them joy, because I felt like that first week when

975
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: this show was out. A lot of people on Twitter

976
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: have like jokes about it, but we're also wrestling with

977
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: the idea that this ship actually I really don't give

978
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: a funk about this. That's making me feel weird because

979
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: before I was extracting my identity from that and I

980
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's also a way to sort

981
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: of force yourself to understand like how much our identities

982
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: are intertwined with objects we possess, and how much is

983
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: actually coming from like an internal source of like this

984
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: is who I am, regardless of these external factors. As

985
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: an American, I have to put it in terms of

986
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: museums because that's the only place where we put the past.

987
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: But like I think of it as like turning your

988
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: home into a museum of your life, like kind of

989
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: kind of thing where you're like, you know, honoring these

990
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: things as totems or artifacts from your life, and like

991
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: if they just are of a place in the museum,

992
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: that's great, but like you have to be a curator. Yeah, yeah, well,

993
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, the US is all about keeping it young

994
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: and fresh. Its fuck old ship old. I know. It's

995
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: like when I'm at parties out here, people speak like

996
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: eight octaves louder than the UK, so like, let's the party,

997
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: and my ears were ringing, and I was like, I'm

998
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: going to move to America when I'm an old lady

999
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to go deaf because I just won't

1000
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: be deaf out here. Yeah, all the Brits are like, helly,

1001
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: can you just please press the button on the elevator

1002
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: saying well, it's yeah, even like it's funny when I

1003
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: was in Japan with like when you're on the trains

1004
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: and stuff, the people who speak the louttest are usually

1005
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: like people from other countries because it's it's all about like, yeah,

1006
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: keep your phone on silence, it's my drum ship. But

1007
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: those are you know, those are the differences where yeah,

1008
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: America is just like, it's me, me, me, and this

1009
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: is what it is. Uh, we're you know, we're learning,

1010
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: we're learning out here. That's right. Let's take let's take

1011
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: messages from all over the world. Cat. The first time

1012
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: I met you was on an episode of The Correct

1013
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: podcast where we talked about things that seem strange to

1014
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: you about America as somebody who's not from here, and uh,

1015
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: you have the loudass voices. I'm like, yeah, that's because

1016
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: that's just yeah, their culture is so individualistic here and

1017
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: not about the group. And again that that that also

1018
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: just bleeds into our the way our politics are to

1019
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: The politicians are in there because they have their own

1020
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: individualistic goals of being like the most popular person in

1021
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: their part of the state, because they're in Congress, and

1022
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: sort of like, we don't think so much about the collective,

1023
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: especially now when we look at things like healthcare and education,

1024
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: it's not so much about that. It's like, oh, well,

1025
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: who who's going to benefit that I know directly from

1026
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: this policy? Right, Well, well let's sing about that this weekend. Kat.

1027
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure having you as always. Where can

1028
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: people find you? I'm main you do Instagram, I have Twitter,

1029
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: but I you basically see the same stuff like on Instagram. Um,

1030
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: it's that Katia finger so k A T I A

1031
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: k v I n G dot tv. Just that. And

1032
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: is there a tweet you've been enjoying or Instagram post

1033
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: that I've seen or one that I've done either. I

1034
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: did one that went kind of viral where I high

1035
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: five loads of people at the leaning tier of pizza

1036
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: because you know how they all stand with their hands

1037
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: up like trying to hold the pizza ran and high

1038
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: high five everyone, like the perspective shot exactly. Yeah, so

1039
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: it's a video of me high fiving all the people

1040
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: doing that. I always love dog memes. I can't get

1041
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: over that. Still like that, I have no idea what

1042
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Type dog means. There's one where it's like

1043
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: this dog and it's eating different types of food and

1044
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: it's like broccoli and it's like yeah, and then like

1045
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: feeds it me and it's like yeah, it's good from

1046
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: my tom and they feed it like um cordas to

1047
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: and it's like this is fantastic. How it's gonna stink

1048
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: like fat later? I loved it so much. How are

1049
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: you with cottage cheese? Okay, okay, don't make sure who

1050
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: wasn't resonating for other reasons? Uh, Miles, Yes, where can

1051
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: people find? You can find me, you can find us,

1052
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: you can find the whole Daily Zydec crew. We worked

1053
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: on the Rohm Burgundy podcast. I just want to say

1054
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: that on the show one time out because it was

1055
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: a tremendous honor and labor of love from everybody who

1056
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Speaker 1: works on the show. Nick and Jack, Sophie, we all, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is we. We got to work on the Rohn

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Speaker 1: Burgundy podcast. So yes, out of allegiance to us, just

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Speaker 1: download that. You're gonna like it. And also if you don't, uh,

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Speaker 1: just at Will Ferrell don't leave me alone. But again, yes,

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Speaker 1: please let check out the rom Burgundy podcast. If you

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Speaker 1: want to find me on social media, you can find

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Speaker 1: me at Miles of Gray g r A y. A

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Speaker 1: couple of tweets I like is from Jane Greasy at

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Speaker 1: Jean Greasy. She says, all the fucking quote unquote teachable

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Speaker 1: learning moments is why we can't have nice things. It's

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Speaker 1: one year from twenty. I want my fucking hoverboard and

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Speaker 1: my Mex suit and my Minority Report contact lenses, But

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Speaker 1: no we're here in the future telling you black face

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Speaker 1: is wrong. God damn it. Yeah. Uh. And another one

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Speaker 1: is this as a sentiment you hear a lot in

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Speaker 1: l A. Especially if this is from at uh A

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Speaker 1: S l N O U X Lisa. H Uh. It

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Speaker 1: just says congratulations. How do you get that? Because that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much if, especially in this in the entertainment industry,

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Speaker 1: were like, oh my god, congrats, So how did that happen?

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Speaker 1: Like It's never just like congratulations, It's like, why are

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Speaker 1: you doing that better than me? It's just the most

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Speaker 1: l A thing. I wish more people who tweeted that,

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Speaker 1: because I'm like, Wow, that's l A is basically in

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Speaker 1: a a quote congratulations. How do you get that? Tweet?

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying from our good pal use of Roach

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Speaker 1: tweeted when I moved to California, I thought astrology was stupid,

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Speaker 1: but slowly I learned to just be into whatever hot

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Speaker 1: girls like. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack

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Speaker 1: Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeis.

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Speaker 1: We're at the daily Zeitgeis on Instagram. We have a

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Speaker 1: Facebook fan page on a website, daily ze Guys Dot

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Speaker 1: com where we post our episodes and our book where

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Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about

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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as the song lead right out

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Speaker 1: on of Man it has not broken the sixty two

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Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheits in l A and I'm I'm partially wanting

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Speaker 1: the sun to come back. So I've been listening to

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Speaker 1: a lot of music that inspires, you know, tropical visions.

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Speaker 1: So I will leave you with some you know, samba, jazz,

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Speaker 1: BASSA nova from stand gets uh and this is called

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Speaker 1: South dadget vemicle handle. Okay, now put that in your

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Speaker 1: ears and just close your eyes and try and leave

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Speaker 1: the sun shining on you, warming your body this weekend,

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Speaker 1: because that's what I'm about to do. Alright, guys, have

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Speaker 1: a great week and we will be back on Monday.

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Speaker 1: I talk to yet night. Fine, I know it