1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: How's it been so for your early impressions of working 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: against Saint Bowen's defense. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It's good competitive practices. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Again, we're two days in just making strides and and 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: try to get better today. I notice you guys have 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: been rolling Hawkins in with the ones and Deontay getting 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: some breaks. 8 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: What's behind that is something? 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: No, it's training camp, so we're again seeing different matchups. 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: You know, they'll be there's a lot of people in 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: There'll be a lot of people in here for the 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. That's fine with him, a little 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: bit better probably probably do the same thing Charlotte that 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: we did yesterday with him. They have a day off 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: tomorrow with the hope that we'll get back the next day. 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: We'll be ready to go and pads will start up 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: next week after the first day. What about Tyler and 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: new same thing we'll give him today, the same We'll 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: do the same thing we did with him yesterday, with 20 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: the hope that you know, he's back here shortly. He's 21 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: his CAP's a little tight, yeah, but nothing like it's 22 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: not long term or anything like that. We're just being 23 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: smart to to get through here this first week ramp 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: up and hopefully next week we can get it back 25 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: out there. 26 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: The first day in pads is Monday? 27 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: Is that right? 28 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: The day after the day off, it's the shells and 29 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: then two days of pads or maybe two shells in 30 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: the day of pads from just not today, you. 31 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: Said somewhere I forget if it was the uscer on 32 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Hard Knocks that Lawrence Cager was having one of the 33 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: best off seasons. 34 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: I think it was in and now he's scored touchdowns 35 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: here the last couple of days. 36 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: What was it exactly that he did this offseason? 37 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: What did you notice that made you say that, because 38 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: you don't give out compliments very easily. 39 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing, he's playing faster. 40 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I think he's absorbed what he needs to do in 41 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: terms of understanding all the play calls, the nuances, you know, 42 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: experience in the system. And I think Tim Kelly has 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: done a great job. He's added a lot to our 44 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: staff in a lot of different areas. But he's he's 45 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: a heck of a tight end coach. 46 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: You're pretty impressed with he dog mentality when you watch 47 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: him on film, and lis was I guess you saw 48 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: someone out yesterday and it was one on ones against ta. 49 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it every day I've been around him. 50 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: His mentality is the mentality you need to have. He's humble, 51 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: but he works extremely hard. You know, we've moved him 52 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of places, and i'd say for for 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: a young receiver, you know, there's a lot of times 54 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: you put him at one spot. So it's a credit 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: to him and the amount of work that he puts in. 56 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: He knows he's got a long way to go. It's 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: a couple of practices, but obviously we thought he was 58 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: a good player where we selected him. I think that 59 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: I told you I love the I love the person. 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: I love his competitive desire, his his will, his grit 61 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: if you you know, if you will so. But he 62 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: knows he's he's two days in, he's had an OTAs 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's not where he wants to be. 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: No one is, not anyone on our roster, not any coach. 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: But he's got the right mindset. 66 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: How do you roll him from you know, keep that 67 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: channel productively, you know, so that he doesn't. 68 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Go up the rail, so to speak. I just think 69 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: that's who he is. He's he's competitive, he wants to 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: do well and He's willing to do anything he can 71 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: do to be as good as he can be. And 72 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: he knows he hasn't played in the league. There's gonna 73 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: be some rough spots whenever those come up, and we're 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: here for him. 75 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: He's here for us. We communicate work. 76 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Well together, but I don't want to let him lose 77 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: who he is. 78 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: Be who you are. Fatten and Stole are. 79 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: Those guys that you're keeping dialed back a little because 80 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: of what they were dealing with in the spring. Yeah, 81 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: and there's a few of those guys pat that were 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: just in terms of the ramp up period the first 83 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: few days of training camp. I'd say again, Wellman, Aaron Wellman, 84 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: Ronnie Barnes do a really good job of kind of 85 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: individualizing all the plans for each players. It's not everybody's 86 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: the same, So we have a plan for I'd say 87 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: a number of players leading up here into the first 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: few days, then going into the next week. Those would 89 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: be two guys. 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: Those guys a lot of times hitting free agency, most 91 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: of the time you have to rely on your scouts 92 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: and tape. You know, for a guy you're not familiar with, 93 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: you do not do that with the motor obviously, what 94 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: is it about him as a guy and as. 95 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: A player that okay, safe one's not here, that's. 96 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: The guy you want. 97 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: Well, I was with him for you know, all those years, 98 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: so he's got he's he has very good discipline, he's 99 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: the right attitude, he's got tremendous will and got a 100 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: lot of grit to him and he does what he's 101 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: supposed to do when he's supposed to do it. There's 102 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: a dependability factor, good communicator, he's a very good leader 103 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: in the running back room. He's been around some good 104 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: ones ahead of him, you know, around Frank Gore, who's 105 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, one of the best to do it here 106 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: at running back. And he's he's not over the top loud, 107 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: but I'd say he's respected by the people in the 108 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: locker room. And you know he'll do a good job 109 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: for us. Well, how about how Abouts and Pinnock and 110 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: the role that maybe is a big a little bit 111 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: bigger for him now given Yeah, another guy you know 112 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: we got, you know, and kind of groomed him, and 113 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit. Great attitude, athletic, 114 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: can do some different things playing a deep part of 115 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: the field. He's extremely athletic, gifted, explosive, fast, and he's 116 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's a new system, but he's picking it 117 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: up well and I expect him to play well. He 118 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: stood out to you about Robinson and what has she 119 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: he's shown so far. Veteran again, he's he's played for 120 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: a long time, so he knows how to be a pro. 121 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: I think he's done a good job on the field physically, 122 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: but I also think he adds an element of leadership 123 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: in the room with some younger receivers, some experience, you know, 124 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: there's time. So it was yesterday we were watching a 125 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: We're watching a one on one clip and it wasn't 126 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: even Malik, but it was another receiver and I'm watching 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: it going through and making some corrections and he spoke up. 128 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: He said, hey, Daves, can you rewind that and just 129 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: pause it for a minute. And he sat there for 130 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: thirty seconds and just had a private conversation with Malik 131 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: on a certain technique that he saw. So you can 132 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: get some veterans in the room, whether it's a receiver room, 133 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: defensive line room, running back room, that know what it 134 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: looks like, knows how to know how to be a pro. 135 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: That helps Dave said, when you how do you work 136 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: the balance of that? 137 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you got a guy who you know is 138 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: now thirty years old, he's battled injuries, He's coming here 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: and he's running with the. 140 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Third team and camp. 141 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: You obviously have guys ahead him on the depth chart 142 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: or young receivers. 143 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: You spent a lot of capital on them. 144 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: Do you kind of have to watch, you know, and 145 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 3: make sure he feels like he's a big part of this. 146 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: There still a part of this and he's not just 147 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to. 148 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: Being used as a leader because I've heard stories about 149 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: guys that you. 150 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Know, well, I think you hit that head on art. 151 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: So I had a conversation with him when we were 152 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: first talking about bringing him in, and you cover that 153 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: because sometimes, you know, I don't want players coming in 154 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: here expecting one thing and it's totally different. So they 155 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: have to understand what it looks like kind of what 156 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I see it as the expectation. Is it a good 157 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: fit for you too, that you know you want to 158 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: be part of it, and you know I laid it 159 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: on the line with him and this is what it was. 160 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: If you have any questions, I'll be as truthful as 161 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: I can to you and then make that decision. If 162 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: it works good for you and works good for us, 163 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: then it's a good partnership. We know that I can 164 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: get down the field right so that yesterday you can 165 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: present that vertical threat. What do you want to see 166 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: for him to take his game to the next level. 167 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: He's you know, him and him and Mike grow And. 168 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: I tell you, Mike has done a fantastic job here 169 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: these last two years. He meets all the time with 170 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: with Hyatt, and Hyatt has has really improved since he's 171 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: been here. You know, it's a different system that he 172 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: came from, which is for most people, but he has 173 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: put a lot of time, effort, and energy into improving 174 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: his craft and and it shows up. He might not 175 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: get the ball in certain things, but his routes, his understanding, 176 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: his play speed. You know, you can play, you can 177 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: be fast, but sometimes not play fast when there's a 178 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: lot of things going on. And he has really improved 179 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: in that area. Had a really good O T A. S. 180 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I like the receiver room we have 181 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: there's you know, Hyatt's been good. Slayton's had a good 182 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: camp these first two days. You know, Wandell Leak and 183 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: even the guys in the back. We talked about Rob 184 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: Isaiah like there's there's a good competition and look forward 185 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: to seeing out unfolds.