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Speaker 1: Personally with Morgan Julesman.

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Speaker 2: Welcome friends. I am super excited about this episode.

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Speaker 3: It's Morgan here, and I hope each episode of Take

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Speaker 3: This Personally so far has helped you either learn things

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Speaker 3: about yourself or helped you in whatever season of life

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Speaker 3: you may be in. This week, I have on expert Nicole,

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Speaker 3: who is a neuroscientist and incredibly well versed in all

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Speaker 3: things brain health. Then I'm bringing on my good friend

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Speaker 3: Jared Houston, who shared the ups and downs of his

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Speaker 3: life journey that got him to where he is today

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Speaker 3: as a celebrity personal trainer, author and business owner. I

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Speaker 3: am so excited to welcome Nicole on with us right now.

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Speaker 2: Nicole, how are you today?

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Speaker 4: I am great. Thank you very much for having me.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited because you are a neuroscientist, you have

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Speaker 3: a master's in organizational psychology, and you're a personal coach,

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Speaker 3: which is so many titles and just totally awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, that's really kind. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: having me. I'm so excited for this.

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Speaker 3: With all of those titles, you have some incredible knowledge

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Speaker 3: and I want to start with something super easy just

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Speaker 3: to kick it off, and we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: the basics of brain health. So how would you know

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Speaker 3: if your brain is healthy and happy versus kind of

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Speaker 3: living in a state of turmoil or chaos per se.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's hard to answer because it depends on whether

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Speaker 4: you have stuff going on. But I always say that

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Speaker 4: you know, a lot of individuals will work on their

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Speaker 4: brain health. So it's quite hard to sort of be

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Speaker 4: cognit natively there if you will or happy, if you're

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Speaker 4: not getting sleep, and if you're not hydrating correctly, if

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Speaker 4: you're not exercising. So provided you've got all of those

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Speaker 4: things ticked off and your mental health is still not great,

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Speaker 4: then you can start thinking, Okay, maybe there's something in

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Speaker 4: your life that's troubling you or you've got a lot

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Speaker 4: of stress. But ticking off the basics means that then

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Speaker 4: your brain can do what it needs to and those

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Speaker 4: are things like sleep, those are things like nutrition, hydration,

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Speaker 4: and exercise. And you know, we don't have to go

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Speaker 4: crazy with all these things either. I post about exercise,

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Speaker 4: and I think some people get a bit triggered thinking,

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Speaker 4: you know, like you have to do a marathon running

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Speaker 4: you don't have to you know, you can go for

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Speaker 4: a walk something as profound, it's just going for a

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Speaker 4: walk and be so beneficial for your brain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was going to ask you about that,

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Speaker 3: because we know exercise is good for many things, not

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Speaker 3: just brain health, but health in general. And like you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be anything crazy. What are some

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Speaker 3: other activities that we can do on top of exercising

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So, I mean exercise is great because I always

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Speaker 4: try and post about reasons to exercise that are not

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Speaker 4: just associated to weight loss. I think when people hear

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Speaker 4: so much more to that. Exercise increases something called BDNF,

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Speaker 4: which is brain derived neurotrophic factor. It is essentially a

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Speaker 4: was more integral, their synapses were stronger. Now, it's hard

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing as happening in your brain with

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Speaker 4: brain derived neurotrophic factors. It's actually literally solidifyingly synapses so

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Speaker 4: that we can maintain cognition. Another thing about exercise is

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Speaker 4: in maintaining cognition as well. So I always encourage everyone

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Speaker 4: to exercise for those reasons, because longevity is anchored in

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Speaker 4: with our habits and our health and just small things. Again,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't need to be crazy stuff.

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Speaker 3: As if mental health physical health aren't enough, do it

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Speaker 3: for your brain health too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it all goes hand in hand. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that some people, you know, find that a

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Speaker 4: Swimming you don't even have to talk to anyone when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I love those. Those are some you know,

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Speaker 3: other active you can do. Is there anything outside of

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Speaker 4: I think the key to keeping brain health is staying active,

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Speaker 4: live more prosperous lives and that is linked to b

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Speaker 4: So I actually get all my clients to do some

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Speaker 3: I mean, I took up adult gymnastics at twenty eight,

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Speaker 4: That ask me questions what the best way to keep

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Speaker 4: consistently literally hydrating water, because I found it's quite crazy.

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot of people that don't drink a

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Speaker 4: and I was say, no, no, no, You've got to drink water.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say I am one of those people.

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Speaker 4: Could you put electrolyteses. You can afford electrolytes, pop them

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Speaker 2: So I found the little cure perfect.

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Speaker 4: And if it's got electrolytes, and then it's even better

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Speaker 4: because your synapses communicate through sodium potassium pump, which is

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Speaker 4: something as simple as ingesting electrolytes can help maintain cognition

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Speaker 3: It's wromally find now we're doing bad things. I'm really

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Speaker 2: Out I did look good.

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Speaker 3: It's actually true that different parts of our brain trigger

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Speaker 4: that's responsible for mind wandering sometimes rumination as well, but

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Speaker 4: that creativity and individuals who have a higher connectivity in

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Speaker 4: it can be trained. The brain is classic, so it

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Speaker 4: So that's cognitively demanding tasks, problem solving, and there will

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is fascinating, especially to learn the myths that

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Speaker 4: have that motivation. They also take less risks. That's one

440
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Speaker 4: of the reasons why we motivate DOPAMINEA is your motivation.

441
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Speaker 4: You're a transmitter, not necessarily the reward neure a transmitter,

442
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Speaker 4: so making sure that you stay active, keeping those dopamine

443
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Speaker 4: levels up is extremely important and making sure that we're

444
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Speaker 4: buffering the amount that we're losing, because we will lose

445
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Speaker 4: dopamine levels. Of course, that is just the nature of

446
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Speaker 4: the aging brain. But it's how much we can soften

447
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Speaker 4: the blow if you will.

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Speaker 3: You also mentioned how the cells in our body are

449
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Speaker 3: constantly regenerating based on the things we put into our body,

450
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Speaker 3: and I think that's interesting because there's a lot of

451
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Speaker 3: discussion about the food, about things that are going on

452
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Speaker 3: inside those foods that we're putting inside our bodies. So

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Speaker 3: in a perfect world, what are some things that we

454
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Speaker 3: would need to keep away from from like putting inside

455
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Speaker 3: our bodies.

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Speaker 2: So we don't know. Deal with this is bad.

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Speaker 4: I always say if it has packaging and an advertisement

458
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Speaker 4: and you can't if it has packaging it and you

459
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Speaker 4: can't get it in its truest form, I would probably

460
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Speaker 4: try and limit it. Okay, anything with an advertisement is

461
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Speaker 4: probably a no no. If it has an advertisement it's

462
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Speaker 4: in a bag of peas, that's different because you can

463
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Speaker 4: get that in its truest form. I get asked about oats.

464
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Speaker 4: Of course, you can get oats in their truest form,

465
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Speaker 4: but normally, if you can't find the product in its

466
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Speaker 4: truest form, then stay away. Ultra process foods, ultra process sugar,

467
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Speaker 4: fizzy drinks not water, but you know, sodas and stuff

468
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Speaker 4: like that. I mean, they have so many added I

469
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Speaker 4: mean I went by barbecue sauce the other day because

470
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Speaker 4: we wanted to make pulled pork, and ironically, I saw

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Speaker 4: the one on the shelf that was going to look

472
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Speaker 4: the healthiest, And when I got home, my boyfriend was like,

473
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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, it was like reading out all these

474
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Speaker 4: things and all these e numbers and we were like,

475
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Speaker 4: no way, it would just put us straight in the

476
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Speaker 4: bin because it's not worth it. So if the label

477
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Speaker 4: has loads of ingredients in it, I would question that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's good to know and something I've been trying

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Speaker 3: to adapt in my diet. But I also, you know,

480
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Speaker 3: I know how hard that is when we get used

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Speaker 3: to a certain lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And the thing is, there's research to

483
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Speaker 4: show that individuals that eat ultra process diets actually consume

484
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Speaker 4: five hundred canaries more per day than individuals who don't,

485
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Speaker 4: even though both groups report the same levels of satiety

486
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Speaker 4: and the same level of enjoyment in their food. So

487
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Speaker 4: that is just the neurons in your stomach that have

488
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Speaker 4: adapted to pick up these particular foods. That is your

489
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Speaker 4: brain telling you that you're craving these foods, but over

490
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Speaker 4: time it will stop doing that. And you know, when

491
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Speaker 4: you start eating batty studying healthy, you'd actually stop craving

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Speaker 4: those kinds of foods. And those foods are designed to

493
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Speaker 4: do that to you. Okay. So I don't want anyone

494
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Speaker 4: that's listening to this to feel bad about themselves because

495
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Speaker 4: they eat ultra process foods. That is literally the marketing

496
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Speaker 4: scheme that they implemented on us. They knew exactly what

497
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Speaker 4: they were doing. So it's about stepping away from that

498
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Speaker 4: and knowing that those foods are there to trick you

499
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Speaker 4: into eating them, and there's nothing wrong with you. That

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Speaker 4: is just how they are designed.

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Speaker 3: Please remember that everyone. I'm going to remember that. I

502
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Speaker 3: need to take that with me every day. One other

503
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Speaker 3: thing I want to talk to you about. I also

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Speaker 3: saw on your Instagram page you had a breakup protocol

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Speaker 3: by a neuroscientist. Yeah, and I would love for you

506
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Speaker 3: to kind of explain that situation that you had posted about,

507
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Speaker 3: because you know, we often hear about people getting out

508
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Speaker 3: of relationships and breakups are really hard.

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Speaker 4: Breakups are really hard. Breakups are so hard, you know,

510
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Speaker 4: and they send you into a spiral. I mean, you

511
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Speaker 4: can get depressive symptoms, feelings of suicide. And that is

512
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Speaker 4: because you have been used to having this person in

513
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Speaker 4: your life all the time. Okay, so your brain has

514
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Speaker 4: rewired itself to be able to reach out for this

515
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Speaker 4: person anytime it wanted to to speak to that person.

516
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Speaker 4: So on a biological level, your brain has rewired itself

517
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Speaker 4: to know that that person is there. When that person

518
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Speaker 4: gets cut off, it's extremely difficult for the brain to

519
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Speaker 4: comprehend that it will diminish serotonin. There's other dopamine factors

520
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Speaker 4: as well, So if all of that can be very confusing,

521
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Speaker 4: can be very very painful. Again, the good news is

522
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Speaker 4: that the brain can change and actually we adapt from

523
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Speaker 4: our experiences. So usually what happens is the second time

524
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Speaker 4: around we become one, we either don't open up it

525
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Speaker 4: was easy, or we know how to deal with it

526
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Speaker 4: better because we've been through it before. Right, So I

527
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Speaker 4: think for myself, especially, my second breakup wasn't nearly as

528
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Speaker 4: difficult as maybe my first one. My third one was

529
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Speaker 4: because that one was a very traumatic one. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: so different situation. Yeah, exactly so, and that's the other

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Speaker 4: thing you have to says, you know, how traumatic was

532
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Speaker 4: a relationship because trauma bonding in itself is so deeply ingrained.

533
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Speaker 4: You know what happens is you have these periods of

534
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Speaker 4: you know, where someone makes you feel rubbish and then

535
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Speaker 4: that sort of dips you a little bit, and then

536
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Speaker 4: the reward feels so much bigger because now they're nice

537
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Speaker 4: to you, they promise they're never going to do it again,

538
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Speaker 4: and that reward actually strengthens the synapses even more because

539
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Speaker 4: there's more going on in the brain instead of a

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Speaker 4: sort of steady state relationship. Does that make sense, Yeah,

541
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Speaker 4: it does, And I think a lot of people can

542
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Speaker 4: resonate with that because it's the real thing, and it's

543
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Speaker 4: really hard to get out of so rewiring your brain

544
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Speaker 4: to imagining your life without that person sort of waking

545
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Speaker 4: up and just saying to your brain, hey, this person

546
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Speaker 4: is not here anymore and it sucks, but it's okay,

547
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Speaker 4: because so we're going to be okay, we're going to

548
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: learn from this, and it's going to be all gravy.

549
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Speaker 4: So that's where visualization comes in, and it is extremely

550
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Speaker 4: important because it does actually work. It does help in

551
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Speaker 4: teaching us that that person's not there anymore. Engaging activities

552
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Speaker 4: are going to make us happy. So help us rewire

553
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Speaker 4: our brains. You know, most people will take up a

554
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Speaker 4: hobby like gymnastics, I took up ballet or yoga, or

555
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Speaker 4: they'll do something crazy with their hair. That's because they

556
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Speaker 4: are longing for change. And I said to you earlier,

557
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Speaker 4: when we are changing, we're increasing BD and F. If

558
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Speaker 4: we can increase B, D and F, we are priming

559
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Speaker 4: our brain for change, which means that we can get

560
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Speaker 4: over the breakup quicker. Okay, because our brain is now

561
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Speaker 4: primed for rewiring.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I never knew why I suggested it

563
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Speaker 2: to people.

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Speaker 3: I have been through enough breakups in my life that

565
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Speaker 3: one of the things I realized is learning something new

566
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Speaker 3: at least distracted me from what was going on. I

567
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Speaker 3: never realized that it was actually my brain was wanting

568
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Speaker 3: me to do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sort of saying like we want B D

570
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Speaker 4: and F, we want to rewire. I mean, I don't

571
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Speaker 4: know if it's saying that. It's not very scientific for

572
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Speaker 4: me to say that, but.

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Speaker 2: It totally is.

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Speaker 4: I'm putting a narration on my brain that well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much again for joining me today talking

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Speaker 3: with me about all things brain health and just the

577
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Speaker 3: brain in general. It's one of those things that I

578
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Speaker 3: would love to learn so much more about.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can ever get enough knowledge about

580
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Speaker 2: the brain.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we'll have to do another one, but thank you

582
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Speaker 4: so much for having me. Morganis with in Brilliant.

583
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Speaker 3: If you want to connect with Nicole, purchase her new

584
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Speaker 3: book or see more of her work, follow her on

585
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Speaker 3: Instagram at Nichole's Neuroscience. Now, I've got Jared Houston on

586
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Speaker 3: who is a personal trainer. Not only is he my

587
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Speaker 3: personal trainer, but he has trained artists like Kane Brown,

588
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Speaker 3: Morgan Wallen Diplow, and many others. While he's incredible at

589
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: this job, he also has a lot of life experiences

590
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Speaker 3: and been on quite the journey to get him where

591
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Speaker 3: he is today.

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Speaker 2: How are you How are you feeling?

593
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Speaker 1: I'm nervous. They didn't get to hear the pep talk before.

594
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Speaker 1: What wasn't a pep talk? Yeah, let's do this.

595
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you're nervous.

596
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I haven't been nervous in a long time.

597
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Speaker 1: I'm nervous.

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Speaker 3: I had a neuroscientist on before you and we were

599
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Speaker 3: talking about the basics of brain health. Being a personal trainer,

600
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Speaker 3: why do you feel it's so important for people to

601
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Speaker 3: move their bodies and work out.

602
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Speaker 5: Often, Well, the science you work out, you got endo

603
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Speaker 5: fins you release for the brain to relax, and it does.

604
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Speaker 5: It puts you in a different state. So it is

605
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Speaker 5: the goal is to move at least thirty minutes a day.

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Speaker 3: What have you seen with personal training people when they

607
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Speaker 3: come into you versus when they leave you?

608
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Speaker 2: What is that experience like?

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Speaker 1: Well, it just depends on what type of person there are.

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Speaker 5: There are different types of people, right, So some people

611
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Speaker 5: are just results based. So when you get those people,

612
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Speaker 5: those are more like my higher analytical people, like I'm

613
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Speaker 5: here for this amount of time and they're a little

614
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Speaker 5: harder to grow. But at the end of the day

615
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Speaker 5: they realize they have gained tools and resources to become better.

616
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Speaker 1: So I think they leave me better.

617
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Speaker 2: I hope they do. I can attest to that.

618
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Speaker 1: I hope they do.

619
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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when they start out, I think everyone has a

621
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Speaker 5: goal or something in mind, but it shifts and changes

622
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Speaker 5: to where I try to preach or push a lifestyle change.

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Speaker 2: You've been trying to do that with me for over

624
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Speaker 2: three years.

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Speaker 1: Jeez, I know, right, We're.

626
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Speaker 3: Working on that, but there's so much more to you

627
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: than personal training. That was the easiest question you were

628
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: going to have today. You've gone through so much in

629
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Speaker 3: your life, and this is why I think it's important

630
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Speaker 3: to share your story. At one of those points in

631
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Speaker 3: your life, you dealt with homelessness.

632
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Speaker 2: Can you talk about that a little bit and what

633
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Speaker 2: that was like for you?

634
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Speaker 1: Started marchha twenty fourth, two thousand and seven.

635
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Speaker 5: I was doing a lot of bad things and one

636
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Speaker 5: day I just decided to stop. Actually, I felt God

637
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Speaker 5: stopped everything. A month later, I lost everything, so I

638
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 5: didn't have anything. I was training about twenty two kids

639
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Speaker 5: from a private school, so the parents loved me. I

640
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 5: was living on couches. Sometimes I was in my car.

641
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Speaker 5: I was just all over the place. I think about

642
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Speaker 5: it now, how many people open their doors to me?

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Speaker 1: It was tough.

644
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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody ever knew that I was struggling,

645
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Speaker 5: but yeah, it was hiding. It was the hardest. So

646
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Speaker 5: when I see a kid i'm working with, like, hey man,

647
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Speaker 5: I'm living upstairs and you're loft, which was literally.

648
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Speaker 1: Like a mansion.

649
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Speaker 5: It was a mansion, but I was always uncomfortable because

650
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Speaker 5: I didn't want to be in someone else's space. I

651
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Speaker 5: didn't want to be overbearing or I just didn't want

652
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Speaker 5: to be a nuisance. So I never really felt I

653
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Speaker 5: felt like a nomad. And then once I realized that

654
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Speaker 5: it might be a while for me to kind of

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Speaker 5: get on my feet, then I took a job in Vegas,

656
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Speaker 5: and then I ended up almost out there too.

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Speaker 2: What was the job you took in Vegas?

658
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: I was a strength coach with UNLV. I had a

659
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: training company.

660
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 5: I was making pretty good money with people, but I

661
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: was still struggling back and forth, and I applied for

662
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 5: like sixty something jobs, never got one. And then one

663
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: of my fraternity brothers like, hey, man, I know a

664
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: guy in Vegas that's coaching at UNLV. And I called

665
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 5: him really good dude, and he was like, all right,

666
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: we'll give you a teen wig deal. Promise me mills

667
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 5: and a room and board and all that. Then when

668
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 5: I get there, I spent everything. I just thought of

669
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 5: one way ticket. I got out there. It was nothing

670
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 5: like you said. The meals that I had were the

671
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 5: meals that were left over that I was with breakfast

672
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 5: sandwich is from the kids. It was the late night

673
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: meals from that I was actually staying with someone for

674
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 5: about two weeks, who was a real good guy, and

675
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: I realized it was putting pressure on him and his

676
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 5: now his wife, and so I told him that I

677
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: got a place. And I was sneaking in and out

678
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 5: of the school every single night, and I was sleeping

679
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: on a cot in the weight room making sure I

680
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: was up and out about four point thirty.

681
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: So nobody knew.

682
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: What was that turning point for you?

683
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: After that job and you were dealing with it still,

684
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: then when was the turning point that you finally could

685
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: look at yourself and say, I wasn't homeless anymore.

686
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 5: When I came back, Laura and I had we were married.

687
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 5: She was living in an airbnb. It was like a

688
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: hundred square feet. I realized that it was not a

689
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: good situation because we're married and we can't even connect

690
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 5: because we have to tire trumble bed together with a

691
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 5: jump rope that I had. So I never really even thought.

692
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 5: I thought that was life is what's going to be.

693
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 5: We just got to make the best of it. But

694
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: I didn't really think that until I got my job

695
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: in about a year and a half and put a

696
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 5: bid on a house.

697
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Well she did, because I didn't have any type of credit.

698
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: I couldn't even buy a piece of bubble go, let

699
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: alone finance that pack of goal.

700
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 5: But I still never felt complete because it I didn't

701
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: wasn't I wasn't a part of it.

702
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: I was just in the room.

703
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: I still had the homeless mindset, so I was living

704
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: with a roof over my head. After that time, everything

705
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 5: was in her name, like I was never truly a man.

706
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: I still felt homeless. I've never told anybody that.

707
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't mean to make you share something that

708
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: was hard, but I think it's important for people to

709
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: hear because who you are today is this incredible person,

710
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: and even then you were still probably that, but you

711
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: were dealing with so many things that it shows the

712
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: journey to where you are now that you're training some

713
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: massive celebrities, but you were even working on a football

714
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: team and it still wasn't all that pretty.

715
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Speaker 2: I look at that life story for you.

716
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: Do you look back on it and appreciate what you

717
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: went through to get to where you are now, or

718
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: is it still something that's really hard for you to

719
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: be like I needed to.

720
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: Go through that.

721
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 5: It's still really hard because nobody I talked to the

722
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 5: coach a few weeks ago, and he never knew. I

723
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: couldn't tell my wife, she didn't even know. I'm just

724
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: in Vegas, floating like I don't know what's going on.

725
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: But it was coming back to those kids and serving

726
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 5: those kids and realizing like it was bigger than me.

727
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 5: But it's still hard to deal with because you always

728
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 5: like an investment you want to see, you want to

729
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 5: see ROI sometimes I don't see that return on that

730
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: investment that I did. I feel like I short changed

731
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: her because she was here working and taking care of everything,

732
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: and I was there simply struggling. But I was still

733
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 5: trying to find my way. So that's a double edged

734
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: sword right there. I'm still struggling with that.

735
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: No, I don't think anything says that you will never

736
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: have to not struggle with that. That's the beauty of

737
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: understanding our journeys that we've gone on. So I appreciate

738
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: you sharing that story with us. Hopefully some people can

739
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: connect to that. One. I do want to also talk about.

740
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: You are diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Is that something that

741
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: has impacted you throughout that journey and still impacts you today?

742
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 2: How does that look for you?

743
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 5: This is the scariest crap I've ever been through in

744
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 5: my life, my whole life. Everybody's saying, thirty nine years,

745
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: it's just Jared, I've never really known what the heck

746
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 5: is going on. And finally I was actually with my

747
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 5: writing coach and I was writing some stuff in a

748
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: free write and she was like, Jared, you should probably

749
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 5: go talk to somebody. And I was like, no, I'm good.

750
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: It's just me, like I'm just I'm good.

751
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm good.

752
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 5: And it got to a point to where I couldn't

753
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: do anything.

754
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: I was frozen pretty much. I was frozen.

755
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: And when I finally went, they just threw a bunch

756
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: of names out. And once you find out you've all

757
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: these things attached to you, you literally spiral. It's like

758
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 5: bipolar manic anxiety depression.

759
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: You're like, hold on, hold on, hold on.

760
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 5: So you have all these smart people in the room

761
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 5: telling you things hooked up on your head and your fingers,

762
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 5: and they're telling you that you're crazy.

763
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: They're telling you have an illness. What the heck do

764
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: you mean?

765
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 5: Nobody saw it for thirty eight years, nothing wrong with me.

766
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 5: You sit in those words and you start you do

767
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: everybody's a everybody's a Google scientist. Everybody's a Google doctor.

768
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 5: You start, you start researching, and you start seeing how

769
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: bad it is, and then you just start to see

770
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: the traits. You start to see those things that show up,

771
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: and you start to remember the reactions you had. You

772
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: start to see those man expells, You start to see

773
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 5: those times where you want to kill yourself and you

774
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 5: don't know why, but I'm happy. It starts to make sense.

775
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 5: Then you start to acknowledge that there's an illness. And

776
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 5: when you acknowledge it, there's an illness that is a

777
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 5: tough situation. No matter how celebritized it is in the world.

778
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: It's great when Michael Phelps says it, it's great when

779
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 5: the NFL got with CT says it. But when you're

780
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 5: just a normal person trying to make ends meet and

781
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: you're trying to do the right things, then you're just

782
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 5: an onmal person. That's crazy and that's what it feels like.

783
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 5: So when they try to pump you with all these

784
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: mans or cocktail as they say, I ain't even take

785
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 5: a talent all. When I got out of my surgery

786
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: from my shoulder or when I had my leg done,

787
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 5: I literally wouldn't even when I was sitting in the hospital.

788
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even hit the morphine pump. I was like,

789
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna wait, I'm not gonna do this. And when

790
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 5: you're from I'm from a small roal area, pills kilt.

791
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: The majority of the people that I grew up with,

792
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: the people that I grew up with, look sixty.

793
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: Five years old because of pills.

794
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: So you're telling me that you want to I'm running

795
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 5: from this, that I'm in shape, that I'm athletic, and

796
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 5: then you're telling me that you want to put me

797
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 5: on a cocktail.

798
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: So I'm normal. Screw you. I am normal. It's a

799
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: little different. I'm still dealing.

800
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 5: With it on a day to day basis because I

801
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 5: don't know, and it's nothing you can control. And like

802
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 5: I said, you have a bunch of smart people that

803
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 5: go to school for this to tell you. Don't patronize me,

804
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 5: don't tell me how you how I feel.

805
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't know.

806
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: You mentioned growing up in a small town too. I

807
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: would imagine growing and the way that you did that. Also,

808
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 3: mental health, talking about those things was not an open

809
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: conversation and not something that was really recognized.

810
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: Absolutely, especially in black people. People of color. It's a stigma.

811
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: It's just like you go through things, you get over it.

812
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 5: Ask any of my teachers about me. Jared was the

813
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 5: smartest in the class, but he was a troublemaker. He

814
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: was up and down, he was all over the place.

815
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 5: We couldn't control him. I was the outstanding student in

816
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 5: second grade. You know what that meant. I was outstanding

817
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 5: in the hall every single day. She said, you're nominated

818
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 5: to be outstanding student. And I still make good grades.

819
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 5: But they couldn't understand what was going on. But now

820
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 5: when you look back on it hindsight, like this kid

821
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 5: was struggling with an illness that no one said, and

822
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 5: the only thing they wanted.

823
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: To pump me with was ADHD medicine. And my mom

824
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: was like, absolutely not.

825
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 5: This whole time, I'm dealing with these things passed from

826
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: all these traumas, even at a young age, and then

827
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 5: you're still trying to add up and really understand what's

828
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 5: going on mentally.

829
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: Do you believe if you had known about this illness

830
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: earlier on in your life it would have helped you

831
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: in ways or do you think it would have been worse.

832
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: It would absolutely help me, And that's why it's so

833
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: hard to not.

834
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 5: Be resentful of those people that say Jared was just

835
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 5: a bad kid, or Jared just lashed out, or it's

836
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: just Jared, or he can't control his emotions, instead of

837
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: someone saying and taking the time, we should do this

838
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 5: because in education, they have those at hand. They have

839
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 5: school psychologists, they have people that can recommend you with

840
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. That's why our parents worked

841
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 5: nine to five jobs and had insurances so people can recommend.

842
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 5: I think that's the problem. It's the lack of empathy.

843
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 5: I think people are so willing to label. That's been

844
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 5: hard for me over the last year and a half.

845
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: I forgive myself, but forgive those that just labeled me

846
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 5: instead of trying to figure out what was wrong. But

847
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 5: it also makes you look at a different light of

848
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 5: other people because you're like, dang, it's something wrong, or

849
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: can I do something different?

850
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: You're looking back at a lot of really hard moments

851
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: in your life. What has been the thing to keep

852
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: you going through all of this despite everything you've faced.

853
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: My family literally serving others.

854
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: When I don't feel like doing something, when I don't

855
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: feel like getting out of the bed, I call the

856
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 5: ziplock bag analogy ites like ziplock bag. The harder you breathe,

857
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 5: the more fogs up, the more it closes in on you.

858
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 5: That's how I kind of describe sometimes how I feel

859
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 5: in the mornings. But then when I get up and

860
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: Alani runs in, it.

861
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: Was like, Daddy, I slept good. Or also comes in with.

862
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 5: His any type of weapon that's any type of toy

863
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 5: that he's turned into a weapon and he's like, Dad,

864
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: this is.

865
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: My shooter gun. It's like that. Or Laura saying, hey, Jared,

866
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: can you do this for me?

867
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 5: And being able to do that and kind of put

868
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 5: it step outside of myself then it kind of it helps,

869
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 5: but also trying not to stay busy because I still

870
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: have to sit in it. I still have to sit

871
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: in that pain to really understand what it is, because

872
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 5: it is it's hard to control, to understand those.

873
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: Triggers because there are so many.

874
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 5: You don't realize there are triggers, because that's why you

875
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 5: will as shout knack certain the way you do, because

876
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Speaker 5: when you internalize those triggers, that's what what emotions are.

877
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 5: Emotions are valid, they're just not true. So whatever I'm

878
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: internalizing doesn't mean, it's reality or real. If I can't

879
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: process it or get it out, then it comes out

880
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 5: later in a negative way.

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Speaker 1: That's the struggle.

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Speaker 3: At thirty nine, you talk about your family. How does

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Speaker 3: it feel at this point in your life? Despite learning

884
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Speaker 3: what you've learned in the last year and a half,

885
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: you have accomplished all of these things, and you have

886
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Speaker 3: this beautiful family in a really great life, and you

887
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: do have your name on a house and some really

888
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: cool accomplishments. After all of that, you look back at

889
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: your life, How does that feel now? Did you ever

890
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Speaker 3: think that was going to happen?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not. I thought I would be by myself. I

892
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 5: thought I'd be angry. I thought I'd end up like

893
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Speaker 5: my grandfather down by myself. I mean every morning I

894
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 5: wake up, I literally say God, like I don't deserve this.

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Speaker 5: People don't know the journey man, they don't know the journey.

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Speaker 1: But it's cool. It's scary, but.

897
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Speaker 5: It's cool because I can now I can be more

898
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Speaker 5: aware from my kids if I see some things in them,

899
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Speaker 5: because I'm going to be quick on it. That's why

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00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 5: I'm always asking my oldest I'm asking them how they

901
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 5: feel or because at a young age you're kind of

902
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 5: spoke to or spoken at. You're not really relevant as

903
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 5: a child, and so I try to give them that voice,

904
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Speaker 5: even at three and four and thirteen. I try to

905
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 5: give them that voice because kids are still innocent, so

906
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 5: they're going to tell you from an innocent standpoint.

907
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: It's going to be real.

908
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: It's brutal, but it's going to be real instead of

909
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: someone like me that has been around people that have

910
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 5: kind of created you to become jaded.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Morgan got me over here, thanking girl.

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Speaker 3: I want to applaud you because you took everything that

913
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: happened in your life and just talking about your family there,

914
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Speaker 3: you're doing things to ensure an even better life for them.

915
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Speaker 3: A lot of people could take what has happened to

916
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Speaker 3: them and continue that cycle.

917
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Speaker 2: You're trying to break that cycle.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I love having you as part of

919
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Speaker 3: my life, because you're someone who's always showing up.

920
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Speaker 2: You're trying to show up, you know.

921
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Speaker 3: I want to ask you, if there's other people out

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Speaker 3: there going through any of these things that you've experienced,

923
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Speaker 3: what advice would you give to them?

924
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Speaker 1: To tell somebody?

925
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Speaker 5: And it was easier to tell somebody that I didn't know,

926
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Speaker 5: because they're going to try to give you a solution.

927
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Speaker 5: Even my wife, she tried to give me a solution.

928
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Speaker 5: I just needed a soundboard. I just needed someone to say, Hey,

929
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Speaker 5: there are eight hundred numbers that you can call. There

930
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 5: are so many free platforms that you can use to

931
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: talk to someone. Now, I would also say, if you

932
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Speaker 5: talk to someone and they're just trying to give you solutions,

933
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Speaker 5: don't get frustrated, because it's just like you meet a doctor.

934
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Speaker 5: Not the first doctor is gonna They might not say

935
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Speaker 5: the right things, do the right things. I want to

936
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Speaker 5: be challenged and because these it will never go away.

937
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Speaker 1: But I'm looking for.

938
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Speaker 5: Things to create tools for me to combat those so

939
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Speaker 5: that I understand when it's coming, so that I know

940
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Speaker 5: that this cycle is coming, or that this manic episode

941
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: is I can sometimes feel it, but then when it's

942
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: hits me and I have an anxiety attack of how

943
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Speaker 5: to control that. And I think that's the great part

944
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Speaker 5: about some of the things in the world.

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Speaker 1: You can do.

946
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Speaker 5: But the hardest thing to do is to make that

947
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 5: phone call. Legit the hardest thing I've ever done besides

948
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Speaker 5: right this book, was to make that phone call.

949
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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you sharing that and the pieces of

950
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: advice not only your journey, but to help others, hopefully

951
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 3: who are struggling in the similar situations. Thank you for

952
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: sharing all of it.

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Speaker 2: Sorry that I made.

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Speaker 5: You get a little bit, but I got you know,

955
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: I zoned in, jeered, I got sup knuckles, stars weg

956
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Speaker 5: But I'm.

957
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Speaker 3: Glad you have a very special voice and one I

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00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: wanted people to hear.

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Speaker 2: So thank you again for joining.

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Speaker 1: Me and thank you for having me Morgan.

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Speaker 3: Jared has a new book called Nothing Concealed, talking about

962
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Speaker 3: his childhood from a child's point of view. It's his

963
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: heavy that he's turned into a support for himself and

964
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: he helps it helps others. You can follow him on

965
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Speaker 3: social media for his personal training work and the rest

966
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Speaker 3: of the things he's doing at Jared Underscore Houston. Thank

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00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: you so much for hanging out with myself, Nicole and

968
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Speaker 3: Jared today. If you have any advice you want answered

969
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: by me or the experts, or just want to leave

970
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Speaker 3: a message, you can email Take This Personally podcast at

971
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Speaker 3: gmail dot com and be sure to follow me at

972
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: web girl Morgan and the podcast Instagram page Take This

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Speaker 3: Personally Next week I will have on two incredible athletes,

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Speaker 3: five time Olympic gold medalist and multiple.

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Speaker 2: World record holder in the sport of swimming. Missy Franklin.

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Speaker 3: She's going to talk about the time she hit rock

977
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Speaker 3: bottom and dealing with her mental health before Olympic trials.

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Speaker 3: Then CrossFit athlete Amy Bream stops by. She was born

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Speaker 3: with one leg and continues to break the barriers while

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Speaker 3: chasing her goals as an adaptive athlete. Until then, I

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Speaker 3: love each and every one of you.

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Speaker 2: Have a great week. Bye.