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Speaker 2: So before we get to the interview with Gunter, I

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Speaker 2: And we became friends with Jay and Mark, and you

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Speaker 2: And you know, very heartbroken to find out about that

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Speaker 2: all of us here at the Battleground Podcast, Jay will

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Speaker 2: be missed. And we are sending thoughts and love and

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Speaker 2: peace to Mark and Jay's family, his wife and his daughters.

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Speaker 2: And in this time of need, we are we're thinking

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Speaker 2: about you guys.

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Speaker 4: Why from the parts of Unknown Studios.

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Speaker 5: You've into the Battle Crown.

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Speaker 4: The Battle the Battle Crowd. Welcome to the Battleground Podcast,

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Speaker 4: your place for all things for wrestling.

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Speaker 2: The Battle Crowd now.

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Speaker 4: Making their way to the microphone. Sextum it up for

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Speaker 4: your host count.

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Speaker 5: The Battle Frown.

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Speaker 6: What's up, wrestling fans at your buddy Battle Here from

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Speaker 6: iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast. And there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of things going on, and uh, let me go

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Speaker 6: for us rednecks, right, Gunther or Gunther.

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Speaker 1: What's the right way to say it?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: So I was at this show. I don't know if

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Speaker 6: by the way, you could still win tickets. Listen all

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Speaker 6: this week and of course go to WLZ dot com.

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Speaker 6: But one match that the IWC, the Internet wrestling community

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Speaker 6: Right, So of course we talked about it. You're you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he maybe he may be okay for now.

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Speaker 5: So what does how does Imperium stand out as a

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Speaker 5: I mean, what what gives you guys an edge as

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Speaker 4: I think we're just different from theatas. I think it's

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Speaker 4: And we take this what we do maybe an inch

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and your entrance is so cinematic but also menacing

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is just such a striking image.

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Speaker 5: I think the presentation of you guys as a group

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Speaker 1: Behind it and be like, WHOA. I think they get it.

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Speaker 5: Like just from the presentation alone, and then you add

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys just look like the A List stars.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. I think that's something I always imagined, like

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Speaker 4: now it's real. That makes it, Yeah, now it goes now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost like you said, like you you almost

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that makes a lot of sense, and.

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Speaker 4: We seem to achieve it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 6: There's gonna be a lot of gold coming y'all's way,

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Speaker 6: for definitely for sure. One question real quick before we

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Speaker 6: Intercontinental Champion. Is there any thought process like if you

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Speaker 6: Is there any belt that you would like to bring

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Speaker 4: Now, exchange it for what I have now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, Like I didn't know.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you want to be like, hey, you know, I

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Speaker 6: and I'd swap the Intercontinental for that or bring something else.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think we have a lot of we have

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Speaker 4: it would be European Championship.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 4: But at the moments, like, I'm the Intercontinental Champion and

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Speaker 5: Else, right, And you know that that title has always

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Speaker 5: and I mean you know who's who have you know,

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Speaker 5: a lot of people you know, you go back and

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Speaker 5: look at some of the runs like seth Rollins had

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Speaker 5: with it with the open challenge and stuff. Do you

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Speaker 5: think you would ever open be open to an open

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Speaker 5: challenge just on SmackDown, just come get it?

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Speaker 1: Whoever wants that? Do you think you'd entertain an open

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Speaker 4: I'm confident enough for it.

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Speaker 1: H Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 4: I like my title matches to be presented in a

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Speaker 1: That makes it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Of built and I like them to happen as like

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Speaker 4: a big event that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense, fitting for a champion. I agree.

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Speaker 6: Well, it has been an honor to have be on

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Speaker 6: the show today, and we don't want to take up

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Speaker 6: too much your time. I know you're a busy man,

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Speaker 6: being the champion all and whatnot, and you got you know,

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Speaker 6: asks to kick very very soon, and we'll just put

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Speaker 6: Seamus's name on that list for you as well. And again,

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Speaker 6: it's an honor to have you on the show. And

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Speaker 6: thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 4: Man, So thank you guys for having me much pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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