WEBVTT - I Choose …To Thrive with Karissa Bodnar

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hi, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about

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<v Speaker 1>the choices we make and where they lead us. My

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous guest today is a trailblazer who founded a brand

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<v Speaker 1>that is vegan, clean and able to be used by

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<v Speaker 1>people who are immune compromised, which is so cool. Her

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<v Speaker 1>beauty brand has an incredible message behind it and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to talk with her. Please welcome the founder

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<v Speaker 1>of Thrive Cosmetics, Carissa Bodner to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrilled that you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>You are beautiful. For anybody that can't see you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>she's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so kind.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so fun. I want to go back though.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just chatting before a minute ago about our humble beginnings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we both grew up in the woods. We did out

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. You grew up in rural Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I did, and Stanwood, Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Stanley.

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<v Speaker 2>I always shout out my hometown. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>a small town of Stanwood, Washington, which is about five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds very similar to I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 1>many mine had.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know until somebody in the press told me that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of wait, do they have, Like, was that fast food

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants in your town or no?

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<v Speaker 2>No? So when I was when I was really young,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't. And when we I was just talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this the other day, when we got a McDonald's, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a national holiday had happened. What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing. We had a dairy Queen when I lived there.

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<v Speaker 1>Dairy Queen's the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Ow My god, you know what we should be doing

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<v Speaker 2>is eating doing this interview while we're eating dairy queen

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<v Speaker 2>ice cream cake, because I think that's the best ice

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<v Speaker 2>cream cake plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd give up my no dairy for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, But we're small town's sister is how fun?

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<v Speaker 2>And my mom is named Jenny. Your dad's name is John. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so awesome. My dad's middle name is John. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>basically sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up in a small town like that. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you figure out what you wanted for your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness. I think for me, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>work in the beauty industry because I loved that it

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<v Speaker 2>was this vehicle for helping me who. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>all can relate to having different insecurities when we're growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>like we go through the acne pace. I mean, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>people don't, but I think most of us do. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I had you know, I had teeth that

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<v Speaker 2>were all over the place, and so I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to draw attention to my eyes instead of my lips

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<v Speaker 2>at a certain point. And I remember reading that. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you remember the Bobby Brown book that had it was

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<v Speaker 2>like an actual book that you could read with makeup

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<v Speaker 2>artistry tips. It came out in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever saw I saw the hairstyle ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, those are different, though, what the what was

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<v Speaker 1>this one?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was it was an instructional book. This

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<v Speaker 2>was before you two, and we didn't have internet at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and so it was really this opportunity for

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<v Speaker 2>me to learn. I would read books like the Cosmetic

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<v Speaker 2>Ingredient Dictionary to learn how to make the makeup, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I would read the artistry books to learn how

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<v Speaker 2>to do makeup. And so I loved it. Wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>I had this clear path of, Oh, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an entrepreneur or I'm going to start a beauty company.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, that was not on my Bengo card, as

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<v Speaker 2>the cool kids say. Now, it was really about wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to work in this industry and I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 2>the makeup. And I didn't even know what product development was,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of an industry term, or cosmetic chemistry, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea that that's what it was. I

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<v Speaker 2>just knew I wanted to make makeup and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to put it on people. And when I fried my

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<v Speaker 2>hair from a Loreal Faria box because I wanted that

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny Garth blonde and I was I'm blessed with beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>brunette hair that box died transtir So. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just yeah, it's I think it comes from that

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<v Speaker 2>personal passion of like it's so creative and artistic, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would say I am a really creative person. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's also this opportunity to help other people feel confident. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always loved like I started as a makeup

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<v Speaker 2>artist when I was eighteen at Sephora.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh like, okay, so you're the one of the gals

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<v Speaker 1>in there that they offer to do your makeup. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they help you find things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>We were called cast members at the time, okay, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a cast member. And when we were working

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<v Speaker 2>on the sales floor, we were on stage. And I

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<v Speaker 2>loved the Sephora training was so cool. I worked there

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<v Speaker 2>for five years, four years while I was in college

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<v Speaker 2>and then one year after college while I was a

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<v Speaker 2>product developer as well. So it was such a great experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as growing up in a small town, like,

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<v Speaker 2>my goal was to win, you know, like the high

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<v Speaker 2>school things like you know, most popular or whatever. My

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<v Speaker 2>goal was to win most likely to stay in Stanwood.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, did you get that title?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I didn't win it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, did you win? Did they give you any I got?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest. These are the two I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I got best Hair okay, I can see it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I got most Gullible Okay, which, like I still have

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<v Speaker 2>mixed feelings about. Oh my god, did you win any

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<v Speaker 2>of those awards? No, I didn't go to high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I mean I did for a minute, but yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and life happened. Yes, you were a global star.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the High School of Life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When did you win? I mean, I know nine two,

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know what age you were. How old

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<v Speaker 2>were you?

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<v Speaker 1>I was sixteen going on seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were like the biggest star on the planet

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<v Speaker 2>when you were sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Old when I was seventeen eighteen. Thanks God, nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do we need to have a prom for? You?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you had prom?

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<v Speaker 1>I did go when I was a freshman in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to my senior boyfriend prom. I've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I have three grown daughters who have all

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<v Speaker 1>had their proms. Okay, which so grateful. That's over. But

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<v Speaker 1>what did your parents do? Like, did you have entrepreneurialship

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<v Speaker 1>in your genes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I think I had it in the soil that

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<v Speaker 2>I was raised on. I in Stanwood, everybody was an

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<v Speaker 2>entrepreneur in some way. My dad grew up in Your

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<v Speaker 2>dad was a teacher, so is mine. Do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Woul Do you remember what grade he taught?

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<v Speaker 1>My dad taught adult education. He taught adults that hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>gone through the school process to learn to read.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad did that too. That is yeah, that is

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<v Speaker 2>so cool. He still does that. He's now retired from

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<v Speaker 2>his full time job, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He still does that. That is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he so. My dad started as an elementary school. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>let me get this right. I think he was a

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<v Speaker 2>special education teacher, and then he was an elementary school teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>and he did all kinds of different jobs within education.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm really inspired by my dad and teachers in

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<v Speaker 2>general because I getting to watch how much they how

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<v Speaker 2>much they really sacrificed to really show up for students

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<v Speaker 2>and really change lives at such a meaningful level. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big reason why we added our education pillar.

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<v Speaker 2>We have so many different causes we support, and education

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<v Speaker 2>is one of them. Is really important, and a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of it, I think is my you know, growing

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<v Speaker 2>up with a teacher in my household, and at the

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<v Speaker 2>time I didn't really appreciate all of Like did you

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<v Speaker 2>get those workbooks on the summer from your dad? Like

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<v Speaker 2>my dad would like we would have like work like

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<v Speaker 2>I had summer school, but it wasn't official. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like the bot our summer school.

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<v Speaker 1>No no. I When he left the school, he became

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<v Speaker 1>a farmer, so I got to bail hay in the summers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I think though, like what a gift to

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<v Speaker 2>grow up the way that we did. I so when

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<v Speaker 2>I say the soil that I was raised on. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my parents always fostered an entrepreneurial spirit within me,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they weren't entrepreneurs. But growing up in Stanwood,

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<v Speaker 2>to the point of not having a large restaurant chain

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the town, every time we were shopping,

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<v Speaker 2>we were voting with our dollars to support our friends

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<v Speaker 2>and family in the area. Right. So, I don't come

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<v Speaker 2>from a family of entrepreneurs, but I think stan would

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<v Speaker 2>be in my hometown really left an imprint on me

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<v Speaker 2>that entrepreneurship or business ownership could be this vehicle for

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<v Speaker 2>really living your purpose and having fun and making a

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<v Speaker 2>living while you're doing it. So most of the people

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up with are entrepreneurs. In my small town,

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<v Speaker 2>most people don't leave Stanwood, so they own a construction

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<v Speaker 2>company or they own a beauty salon. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I was going to do, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>really lucky that I grew up around so many entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, I love that it was in the soil.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was, and I spent a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time in the dirt. I grew up on a

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<v Speaker 2>dirt road, so my parents would be looking for me

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd be like in the woods or like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing all kinds of crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, our childhood sounds so similar. Were you alone when

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<v Speaker 1>you were out there in the dirt?

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<v Speaker 2>I was too. Yeah. I have a sister, but I

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<v Speaker 2>like to joke that she was more of an indoor cat.

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<v Speaker 2>So she likes to play with dolls. She liked to

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<v Speaker 2>play with dolls and things like that, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>more of a you know, we didn't have cable, we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have internet, and it was what.

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<v Speaker 1>Year are we talking here? Like what year did you

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<v Speaker 1>come up in? In this in what's called what's the Stanward?

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about the nineties. We're talking about like

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<v Speaker 2>peak nine oh two one oer era, which was on Fox, right, yes, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have cable. No, nobody had Fox. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have cable. But I definitely know of nine

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<v Speaker 2>two one oer and have seen it. And I love

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<v Speaker 2>the whole I choose me and how this is woven

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<v Speaker 2>into really who you are as a person. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's so cool. And but yeah we're talking I was

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<v Speaker 2>born just like Taylor Swift in nineteen eighty nine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt really seen when that album came out, I bet,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a swifty Swifty I mean too, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>did you see her eras tour? I mean epic?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I still watch it, like the the Disney Plus version

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<v Speaker 2>of it. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like once was enough for me. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not that much of a Swifty fan. I love listening

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<v Speaker 1>to her music, though, like girls have grown up on

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<v Speaker 1>it so inherently. I know every song, yeah, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard them a million times. Yes, I am a fan

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it sounds like you got into makeup pretty

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<v Speaker 1>early on Yeah, like what age did you say? What

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<v Speaker 1>age did you start wearing makeup?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, when I was allowed to or when I started,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's a really you know something about me,

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<v Speaker 2>much to the chagrin of my parents, who had the

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<v Speaker 2>painstaking task of raising me, is that if you tell

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<v Speaker 2>me I can't do something, I'm going to want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it more So. I probably started playing around with

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<v Speaker 2>my mom's lipstick when I was about five, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was officially allowed to wear makeup when I

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<v Speaker 2>was about thirteen, but I was definitely sneaking it on

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<v Speaker 2>the bus on the way to school, even in elementary

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<v Speaker 2>school and middle school.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, was were people like, oh my god, she's

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<v Speaker 1>wearing makeup.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, for sure. I even got teased at certain points.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one time I did this pretty intense purple

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<v Speaker 2>look where I had a really purple eye, like a

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<v Speaker 2>very intense purple eye, because I had read in one

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<v Speaker 2>of these makeup books that it would help enhance the

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<v Speaker 2>green in my eyes, okay, And I remember getting teased

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<v Speaker 2>at school for this like very intense purple smoky eye.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went home and cried to my dad

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and he's like, well, you know, just it

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<v Speaker 2>is a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Much, you know, did you like reel it in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit after that or no, you just kept doing purple?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just kept playing around with it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>makeup is meant to be fun. And every time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we we donate our makeup, and every time we do that,

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<v Speaker 2>we love to host what's called giving events, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we bring people all around the world into these different

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's at a domestic violence home, or we host

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<v Speaker 2>them at our office, or we go to a cancer

0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.640
<v Speaker 2>center at a hospital, and we always start every giving

0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.120
<v Speaker 2>event by saying, we are to give you tips and

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<v Speaker 2>tools and tricks to really feel empowered when you're using

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<v Speaker 2>your makeup. But there are no rules, like the only

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<v Speaker 2>rules to have fun. And so I think that you

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever you feel like in that moment. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>love this beautiful red that you have on right now

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<v Speaker 2>on your lips. It's so pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Thrive.

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<v Speaker 2>It is I wonder if that's the empower mat and Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>is it empower Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have worn my Thrive lip for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you're so sweet. I'm so flattered.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, the big crayon one I think you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Wearing the one that I named after my friend Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to tell you why this is a

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<v Speaker 2>chismeic connection. Lara is friends with Laura Geller, who you

0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and I both love. Laura Geller right right, And she's

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<v Speaker 2>actually how I met Laura Geller as an entrepreneur. I

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<v Speaker 2>met her when I was a makeup artist at SEFORA

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<v Speaker 2>and I was selling Laura Geller products. This is so weird. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really cool. You're wearing Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>That's full So I can tell from like five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>ago when we were talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Laura Geller.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's crazy. Yeah, I really love your lipsticks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious what is your take on as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a beauty brand founder. We're seeing more and more these

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<v Speaker 1>young young girls sharing stuff on TikTok talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their beauty brand. What's it called when you get a

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<v Speaker 1>big hall?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the hall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're showing like their twelve step makeup routine, their

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<v Speaker 1>skincare routine, they're anti aging routine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your take on that about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>young girls using products that are developed specifically for older women. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why do you think the young girls are doing

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<v Speaker 1>this now?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's so layered. Yeah, you know why they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, And I think the why and the intention

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<v Speaker 2>is where it becomes really important. Like when I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how old you are, when you started playing around.

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<v Speaker 1>With makeup about the same as you yet five.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think it's it should be fun. At

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<v Speaker 2>that point, we're playing dress up, right, it's not necessary

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<v Speaker 2>to change something about ourselves. And I think whether you're

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<v Speaker 2>five years old or eighty five years old, that message

0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.080
<v Speaker 2>rings true. So I think when I think about these

0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.400
<v Speaker 2>younger girls with playing with makeup. I'm like, yeah, let's

0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.680
<v Speaker 2>have fun with it. And the skill of these young

0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.720
<v Speaker 2>kids is amazing, and so I'm really inspired by seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they express their creativity that way. I

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<v Speaker 2>think when you see them using some of these pretty

0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.800
<v Speaker 2>aggressive ingredients like retinol or glycolic acid and lactic acid, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I believe in those ingredients and I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're super effective. But when they're not educated on hey,

0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:44.480
<v Speaker 2>that's retinol or glycolic those are amazing things to use

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<v Speaker 2>specifically on your acne, you know that you may be

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<v Speaker 2>going excaring. Yeah, Like I think, you know, if a

0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.360
<v Speaker 2>thirteen year old is using those ingredients. Sometimes I see

0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.400
<v Speaker 2>them putting them like all over their face and their body,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, maybe we don't necessarily need to

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<v Speaker 2>go that far, but I think it goes down to

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<v Speaker 2>the intent. Goes back to the intention, and then education

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<v Speaker 2>on how to use it safely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I see it all because my youngest

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<v Speaker 1>is eighteen. Yeah, and she really grew up in the

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<v Speaker 1>whole making videos of herself putting on makeup or doing

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<v Speaker 1>things or doing the holes and she you know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>already said things to me like I want to get botox,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get a lip flip. Oh, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, what Yeah, No, you're perfect the way you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And what a gift that you say that to her.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish she would listen to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell her. Okay, oh gosh, have you guys ever

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<v Speaker 2>done beauty videos together? No?

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<v Speaker 1>We should do that that way, these would be adorable together,

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<v Speaker 1>all the Generator or all the girls, all the girls. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're twenty eight, twenty two, and eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Okay, I'm taking notes. We need to

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<v Speaker 2>do this, Okay. Yeah, I think, you know, what a

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<v Speaker 2>gift that you're reinforcing that she's beautiful the way that

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<v Speaker 2>she is. And I think so much about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how you're reinforcing that within her, and also that she's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, much bigger than her beauty, like she her

0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.000
<v Speaker 2>brains will take her so much further. Like, that's an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing gift for her to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I take it for granted. You know, my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was always very encouraging, you know, and always telling me

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<v Speaker 1>my reminding me of my worth, you know, and making

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<v Speaker 1>sure I knew and I do that just inherently with

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<v Speaker 1>my girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess just part of all of our conversations, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's made them really strong and resilient and confident,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in themselves. Yeah, and I really take that

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<v Speaker 1>for granted sometimes thinking some young girls just aren't getting that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's it's true. We see it a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in the work that we do, and that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so grateful for there's there's people like you who are

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<v Speaker 2>raising generations of strong, empowered, confident women. And there's also

0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.680
<v Speaker 2>so many nonprofits that are also helping to show up.

0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:14.600
<v Speaker 2>And there's this one organization called Self Esteem Rising that

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<v Speaker 2>teaches classes for five year olds up to one hundred

0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.920
<v Speaker 2>year olds about building confidence, and we work with them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're one of our giving partners. And I remember when

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<v Speaker 2>I went through the first self esteem training with them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just crying in the corner because this

0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.320
<v Speaker 2>is the most beautiful thing to because really the message

0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.399
<v Speaker 2>transcends whether we have an amazing mother like you or not.

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.080
<v Speaker 2>These organizations are also helping to mother all of us

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<v Speaker 2>to feel like we're so much more than what we

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<v Speaker 2>physically look like.

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<v Speaker 1>It so necessary, it's so necessary, and that's definitely one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I love about you. And Thrive Cosmetics.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come back to that. But when I talk to

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<v Speaker 1>female founders, I always am interested in the journey. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always interested in the why and the how. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>what is your why?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's such a great question. My why has grown

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<v Speaker 2>so much from when I first started. So the business

0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.200
<v Speaker 2>plan I wrote on my iPhone, which was just a

0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.879
<v Speaker 2>few bullet points, was really the why, which was to

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<v Speaker 2>create game changing products that would really help people feel confident,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they were receiving them as a customer or they

0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.719
<v Speaker 2>were receiving them as a donation. So for me and

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<v Speaker 2>for those of those listeners who don't know about our mission,

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<v Speaker 2>which I would assume most don't, but are you know

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<v Speaker 2>or that I've they've even that they've even heard of

0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:41.399
<v Speaker 2>Thrive Cosmetics before I Thrive Cosmetics. Really, our mission is

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<v Speaker 2>about giving back with every single purchase. So every single

0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:48.399
<v Speaker 2>time somebody purchases, we donate, We donate products, and we

0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 2>also donate funds depending on what the nonprofit needs or

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.639
<v Speaker 2>what what our community is asking us to do. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you an example of kind of the standard

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<v Speaker 2>way that we give. We So you know, Jenny purchases

0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.840
<v Speaker 2>on Thrivecosmetics dot com and then we record that purchase

0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 2>and then we go with our community and say okay.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of every month, we have a total

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<v Speaker 2>of what we can give based on all of the

0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:16.359
<v Speaker 2>purchases and our community, whether it's our customers or people

0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.679
<v Speaker 2>who are just friends of the brand that we love dearly,

0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:24.119
<v Speaker 2>other giving partners, and our employees. We all vote on

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<v Speaker 2>what nonprofits we're going to give to.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the coolest thing ever. Impact Committee. You should totally

0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 2>come to. It's so amazing. We get everybody together and

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<v Speaker 2>these giving partners they submit videos as part of the application,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're so creative and inventive, and really the prompt

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<v Speaker 2>is like, how are you going to make these products

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<v Speaker 2>really purposeful with your nonprofit? And so we've been able

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 2>to give to over six hundred nonprofits since I started

0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.760
<v Speaker 2>the business, and I think it's important to underscore how

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.480
<v Speaker 2>small we were for so many years, but really how

0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.480
<v Speaker 2>our community helped fuel that over the last day decade.

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<v Speaker 2>And we wouldn't have been able to give to all

0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:08.520
<v Speaker 2>of these nonprofits without people helping us. People nominating these

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:13.199
<v Speaker 2>nonprofits also of course supporting us through their purchases. But

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I shipped products out of my apartment for

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<v Speaker 2>three years and we had one charity that we supported,

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and we supported one cause which was cancer. Now it's

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.680
<v Speaker 2>domestic abuse. We support foster youth. We have a whole

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<v Speaker 2>education pillar where we have a scholarship. We're super excited

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.200
<v Speaker 2>to announce that we're going to be donating because of

0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.160
<v Speaker 2>our community during the wildfires, we were able to raise

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.359
<v Speaker 2>five hundred thousand dollars. Nice to be able to donate

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<v Speaker 2>to those who were impacted by the wildfires that just

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 2>happened here in our backyard in Los Angeles. And one

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars of that is going to be or

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<v Speaker 2>has been allocated to provide ten scholarships of ten thousand

0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 2>dollars to high school students that were impacted by the wildfires.

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<v Speaker 1>So wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's incredible what our community has fueled. Like

0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I think our goal was one hundred thousand dollars, which

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 2>is amazing, Right, that's a remarkable donation. The way that

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 2>the community showed up in the US as well as

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Canada allowed us to raise five hundred thousand dollars in

0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 2>one day. And we're a small company. It's not like

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.680
<v Speaker 2>we're you know, like you know, I started this out

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 2>of an apartment. So I think that's where I really

0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.080
<v Speaker 2>want to underscore how important our community has been to

0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.400
<v Speaker 2>be able to donate at that scale. It's we've now

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 2>donated over one hundred and fifty million dollars in both

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 2>funds and products since I started. And that is millions

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.240
<v Speaker 2>of people showing up saying I'm going to vote with

0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 2>my dollars and I want to give back. It's amazing.

0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.399
<v Speaker 1>One hundred and fifty million, you guys, that's that's a

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 1>big number. You should be so proud. I know I

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 1>can tell that you are. This sounds like your why.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my why? Yeah, I think, yeah, Sorry, I didn't

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:58.720
<v Speaker 2>even answer your question super directly. I went on a

0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 2>whole tangent, but I got it. I tend to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>What I will say, though, is, you know, I have

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<v Speaker 2>the great privilege of working with over seventy people every

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 2>single day to build this company. Our team is everything

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 2>to me and I wouldn't be able to even be

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 2>here with you without a team. And so I think

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that's another important piece of my why to really underscore,

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 2>because I'm motivated every single day to be the best

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.680
<v Speaker 2>version of myself as a leader and as a person

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:28.919
<v Speaker 2>because of the people that I get to work with

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<v Speaker 2>on our team, and that's a I didn't have that

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<v Speaker 2>as a part of my why when I first started,

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<v Speaker 2>because I couldn't afford employees. Yeh. And I was twenty

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.480
<v Speaker 2>four years old, so I didn't really know how to

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 2>manage people or I didn't have a ton of experience

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.199
<v Speaker 2>doing that, And so I think that's another piece of

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>my why is. You know, I've done this for over

0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.199
<v Speaker 2>ten years and it always inspires me to work with

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 2>our team as well.

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.639
<v Speaker 1>You said your first I'm going to ask you about

0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:54.120
<v Speaker 1>your how in a minute, but I wanted to make

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.919
<v Speaker 1>sure I covered this too. You said your first charitable

0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.879
<v Speaker 1>fundraising was for camp Sir. Yeah, is there a specific reason?

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I have this ring that I wear. I

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>cry every time I talk about my friend Christy. I yeah,

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I started this business after losing my friend Christy to

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:18.120
<v Speaker 2>cancer and I was twenty three, she was twenty four.

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.439
<v Speaker 2>And I was so inspired by the way that she

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 2>really dedicated her life to helping other people, Like while

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I was I'm going to be a product developer and

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to you know, I want to work in

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 2>a laboratory and make makeup and skincare. She was like, CHRISA,

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to Tanzania and I'm going to

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 2>help empower young girls and teach them English. And she

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 2>again coming back to education being such an important pillar

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>for us as a company. That's what she was doing.

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 2>She was teaching over in Tanzania. And so for me,

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Christy is like the reason why I wear this ring

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 2>in honor of her, and why I love to put

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 2>sunflower seed oil in and all of our products, almost

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 2>all of our products, is because that was really her symbol.

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 2>She loved sunflowers, and after she passed away, we created

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.199
<v Speaker 2>this sunflower sticker that I keep with me in my

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 2>wallet that we would put on like the Eiffel Tower,

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 2>or when we would go on a hike, we would

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 2>like take a picture because she loved to travel. And

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 2>so for me, it was, you know, losing her was

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 2>that moment where I think a lot of people go

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 2>through this when a tragedy happens, we kind of reevaluate

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 2>our lives and what we're doing. And Christie's death taught

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 2>me how finite life is and also that we should

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>be waking up every day feeling like we're living our purpose.

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 2>And I absolutely loved making makeup and putting makeup on people,

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 2>and I loved skincare and all of that. It was

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 2>so fun. And then there was this element of like, God,

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to be like donating. I want to be

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 2>donating this makeup and teaching people how to use this

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 2>make up up. And so I never would have started

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 2>a beauty brand, like I really really wouldn't have. I

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>was very happy in a secure job situation. Entrepreneurship is

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 2>not a secure job situation, and it's not easy. And

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 2>I think that, you know, it's really Christie's passing that

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 2>propelled me.

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 1>To that's so heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.719
<v Speaker 1>that your brand is built around this loss.

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and friendship and the power of that. Yeah, I

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 2>swear to God I know Christie better than when she

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>was here ten years ago.

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I talk about this sometimes. Oh, tell me when

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you lose someone, Yeah, your relationship expands with them?

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, Okay, tell me your stories about this, because

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>that's so cool.

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, my my my thing is like life is busy.

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>We're all busy, We're all doing all of our things,

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and friendships are there, but you know, we touch upon

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 1>those bases here and there when we have time and

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>when specifically my friend Luke died, I and my dad

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, but I as a friend, I felt when

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>he passed, like after I was, you know, well into

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 1>my grieving process, I felt him with me all the time,

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.199
<v Speaker 1>whereas before it was just here and there when we

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>would talk or when we would see each other. But

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>now there's this like this feeling in me around me

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>wherever I go, exactly, Harriet. Yeah, And there's just something

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>so indescribable, indescribable about that feeling.

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>That I have chills because that's exactly how I feel. Yeah,

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>especially in the tough times. Yeah, Like I I totally agree,

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 2>And I'm so sorry that you lost your friend. Luke's

0:26:52.440 --> 0:27:00.040
<v Speaker 2>thank you. Yeah, I'm so sorry. It's it's such a

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 2>unavoidable tragedy of life. And I agree with you completely.

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel I feel Christie around me all the time.

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 2>I see her in the eyes of the people that

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 2>we're serving, and I feel her even here with us now,

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 2>and I just it's it's almost like this guiding compass.

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, this is like the most la story. I

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 2>don't even I don't really know. So again, not from LA.

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Grew up in a really small town, conservative Christian household. Okay,

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>so the horoscopes were not a big part of my upbringing.

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>And so then all of a sudden, when we moved

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the business to LA in twenty eighteen, people started talking

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 2>to me about my signs all the time, and I like,

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I knew I was a cancer because I was born

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 2>in July, but like, I didn't know the whole scope

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>of this. But the reason why I'm saying this is

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>an LA story is that we have an annual party

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>with our team and we the team, I was like,

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>where's the photographer. I remember going to our this amazing

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>people leader, Grace, and then one of our team members, Michelle,

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, why didn't we have a photographer?

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>They're like, we ran out of budget and I was like, guys,

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>we had hired a tarot card reader instead. But she

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 2>was amazing. She was amazing.

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that your first experience with that?

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I actually didn't get to sit with her,

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.719
<v Speaker 2>but she because the line was so long with our

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 2>team and the team loved it. But I'm like, I

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>want photos because I love printing photos of our team

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>and then like framing them for them. But I the

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Tarot card reader pulled me aside and she said, I

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know your story, but I want to let you

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>know that this company is blessed by divine energy and

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>divine power. And I'm like, I just start crying because

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Yeah, it really is.

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's so incredible. How did you get out of

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.719
<v Speaker 1>your apartment into the marketplace?

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, you unlock the door and I'm just.

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Kidding, somebody let me out.

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes. So when I started the business back in twenty

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>thirteen twenty fourteen, e commerce businesses weren't really a thing

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>at the time, and so I really I literally went

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>like door to door trying to get different retailers to

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>carry the products. And I don't know what it was,

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't really believe in the vision of what

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to create at the time. And I

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 2>only had one product, which were our false slashes that

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>were it was paired with our lash adhesive or lash glue.

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>That was your first product.

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>It was the first product. Yeah, and it's it was

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 2>a really important product because I saw this firsthand working

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>as a makeup artist with people who were going through

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>cancer or my friend Christy that when you lose your lashes,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 2>which many people do when they go through chemotherapy, they

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>aren't able to use traditional slashes.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Right because there's no lash to stick them on exactly.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so that was so what I created were

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>these really incredible lashes. I created them in my kitchen,

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>like handmade them with little fibers, and I will never

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>let the team throw out the original fibers. We're about

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>to move our office and I'm like, do not throw

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>away the lash fibers. Yeah. I would use like eggs,

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 2>like I would use an egg as my surface area

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 2>because I was trying to mimic what it would be

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>like to have an eyelid without lashes. But what I

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 2>found in the process was that they were really durable

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and long lasting, like people could wear them twenty or

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty times, and they were like everybody loved them. And

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 2>so that was what I was pitching the retailers on

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately, well it was actually fortunate for me in

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the long run and for the business. I had to

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>build a direct to consumer business and I didn't know

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>how to do that.

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So because you never went to school for business, you never.

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I kind of did wasn't the best student. I'm going

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>to be honest. I went to community college, which I

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>think is great. And so I went to Bellevue Community College,

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>and yes I took chemistry classes, Yes I took business classes.

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>But I was the kid that wanted to go to

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>itt Tech so that I could work during the day,

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>like I was getting d's in like classes like nutrition

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 2>that only required participation because I wasn't showing up to class.

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Because I got an opportunity Nordstrum. I had an internship

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 2>at the time, and they were like, would you like

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 2>to work this photo shoot tomorrow at eight am? And

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, heck, yeah, I want to work that.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>And I definitely had a class at that time. And

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>so I struggled in school, but not because the teachers

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>weren't awesome. I just wanted to be working and I

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>had so many cool internship opportunities. But I did graduate

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 2>from University of Washington, not with a business degree, even

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>though I was in the business school. I dropped the

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 2>business school so I could graduate early and then go

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 2>work at Clarsona. That was what I So I did graduate,

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 2>but barely. Like that was a long winded way of

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>me saying I wasn't a good student. Don't be like me.

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>So you basically just on a wing and a prayer,

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like you figured this out as you went, Oh.

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I only knew the chemistry side and the

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>artistry side, Like I only knew how to make the

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 2>products and then how to make people feel amazing when

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>they were using them. And so I've made a lot

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>of mistakes. I joke that I have a PhD and

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 2>what not to do. I've paid a lot in different

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>fees of you know, fines, legal fees, all kinds of

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:40.959
<v Speaker 2>things because of all the mistakes that I've made. And

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I think every time, you know, I think it can

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 2>be really lonely and depressing at times when you're making

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>so many mistakes, as I did. But I had to

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>just flip it and be like, I'm just this is

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>just adding to my degree and my PhD of what

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>not to do, and I won't do it that way again.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>So I really like to think of it as failing forward.

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes exactly. I was just thinking that.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because otherwise it's like what are we going to do?

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, We're all going to make mistakes, whether you

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>have a business degree from Harvard or like me, you

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>went to community college. I think entrepreneurship is the school

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>of hard knocks, Like you can't teach some of the

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>things that you're going to go through. And I kind

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 2>of think that's the magic of it, though, because if

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I would have known how hard it was, I probably

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have done it. And I'm so glad I did,

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'm so glad I didn't give up. I think

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 2>like that was so to answer your question about getting

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>out of the apartment, it was the power of our community.

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I will never, you know, not be grateful for every

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>single customer, because there was a point in time where

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I was looking at every single order coming through on

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>my phone and then personally shipping it myself out of

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>the apartment. And you know, friends and family were helpful.

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>My boyfriend built the website and you know, did an

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 2>amazing job, and you know, has really helped fuel the

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>growth of the company. And I just think, you know,

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 2>my parents helped with order fulfillment, Like I wouldn't be

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>here without an amazing community of customers and people who've

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>just said, hey, I believe in you, And you know,

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that's that's why I'm here, is how I got out

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 2>of the apartment.

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>What Yeah, you said before. I think failure is just

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>a part of growing. Yeah, we don't fail, We're not

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>learning totally.

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and think about your career and what

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you've been able to build, and how many different things

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 2>that you've you know, failed forward through. I can only

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>imagine what it's like to be learning those lessons at sixteen,

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:45.479
<v Speaker 2>seventeen years old.

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm thinking the same thing about you, because

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 1>you're considerably younger than me, and you have found this

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>magical space that you feel so supported in and you

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>feel such a purpose. You know, finding that purpose at

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a young ages is a gift.

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how did you know that acting was your purpose?

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know it's bigger now than.

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I never knew acting was my purpose.

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I just assumed.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah know, I stumbled into it and I found myself

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>just in the deep water, so I started swimming. Yeah,

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and along the way, I did grow to develop a

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>great love for what I did, and I really enjoyed that.

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>The acting, which is a very small part of what

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you do every day as an actor. There's just a

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>small amount of time when you're doing that scene, when

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you're on camera, when you're on your mark you're on

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the set, but there's so much waiting, there's so much

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, chatting, chatting all on the set, all those

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>things I wasn't a fan of. But yeah, once I started, also,

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>like you said, meeting the community, hearing how important the

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>show was to people, or the impact that my storylines

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that Kelly went through had on somebody else, That's when

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I started to go like, yeah, I'm doing this for

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>a reason. Yeah, you talked before about the brand giving

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>back to so many different charities, and I just love

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>this part of what you're doing. And I know that

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you do too. I can tell it's the best. Yeah.

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I saw some footage of you taking your products down

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to skid Row.

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, surely, and Beauty to the streets. Yeah, to

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 2>the streets.

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you should come sometime. It's really such a transformational experience.

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, or I mean, there's so many things we

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>could do together. I know you're really big on women's empowerment,

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>so there's so many different giving partners that we could

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 2>we could work together with. And yeah, sorry, I totally

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 2>cut you off because I got so excited about my

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>friend Shirley.

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, surely shout out to Shirley. Yes, yeah, but no,

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just that is such an important element I think

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>to give you that purpose, you know, that drive to

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>help others. And I saw the transformation on these women,

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>these unhoused women are down on their luck. Yeah, and

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>they you know, nobody's looking at them like seeing them.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.479
<v Speaker 1>And I think when you are standing right in front

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>of them, close to them, and you're applying makeup to

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:16.720
<v Speaker 1>them and you're encouraging them through words and through touch, Wow,

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that's so powerful.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>It's it's so powerful, and I think it's also powerful

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 2>for us as people, Like anytime I'm bringing somebody on

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>a giving trip, because these are you know, we're talking

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 2>about skid roads. It's not a safe place, right we

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're going to some really intense areas of

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the world when we're serving people, not always you know, sometimes,

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 2>but they're they're heavy situations. And what I always tell

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 2>people is I'm like, this is going to change your life. Like, yes,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you're going to change lives, but you're really going to

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>be changed from this. Like I didn't know how much

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>internal healing I needed until I started working with some

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>of these giving partners, like the Foster Community and these

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 2>kids that I get to work with through you know,

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the work that we do. They have healed me in

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 2>ways that I can't even fully put into words. But

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think also to people who are going

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 2>through cancer, like the being able to work with those

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:24.240
<v Speaker 2>those people, seeing that, you know, the incredible, really scary

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 2>challenges that we go through don't define who we are,

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and being able to witness somebody else inspiring us in

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>that way. Like I think about my friend Nali, who

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>is one of our namesakes or Infinity water Proof yeliner namesakes.

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>But my friend Nlly, she was my age and she

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>reminded me so much of my friend Christy. And we

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 2>met when we were both twenty four and she was

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>going through breast cancer the first time, and she was

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 2>like the most inspirational, motivational speaker, Like if she she

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 2>probably well spiritually she is sitting here with us, but

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.919
<v Speaker 2>she would be like she could just light up a room,

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>whether it was five people or five thousand people, And

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 2>until her last breath, she was inspiring people, whether she

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 2>would she would go speak at conferences that weren't even

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 2>about cancer. It was just about really living your life

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 2>to the fullest. And I think being able to witness

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 2>people like that has helped me recognize that the things

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 2>that I am struggling with don't necessarily define me or

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 2>the mistakes that I've made. You know, I think we

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 2>all go through different health challenges, which I have had

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 2>in my life too, and I think it gives us

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 2>certain appreciation for life. But also like, let's not put

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.919
<v Speaker 2>ourselves in boxes. You know the world will already try

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 2>to do that, so let's like keep our boxes as

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>open as possible.

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you said that working with the foster kids helped

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>heal you. What are some of the things that you

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>noticed healing?

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I think you know, I was labeled

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 2>pretty early on as being like a tough kid and

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.919
<v Speaker 2>a kid that was Now I embraced being called tough

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 2>because I think that's awesome, you know. I see it

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 2>as a as a you know, a badge of honor.

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>But very early on in my life I was told that,

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, I talk too much, that I'm argumentative, that

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I need to kind of color within the lines, if

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>you will, And I just wasn't a kid that was

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 2>meant to do that. I was meant to be running around,

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, on a dirt road on a farm, and

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of energy, and I was really creative,

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate that my parents really fostered that within me.

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think I also was challenging for them to

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 2>raise and they they would say that if they were

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>sitting here, but I think I know they loved me,

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 2>but I think there was a lot of pressure to

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 2>fit within a certain box. And so when I see

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 2>these kids who have also been labeled as a problem,

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I love them. I'm like immediately attracted to them. I

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 2>think I'm perpetually meant to have a complicated, complicated and

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, in air quotes, thirteen year old in my life,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 2>specifically a girl I want like a thirteen year old

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 2>girl always in my life that's like angsty and like,

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, like and I don't even want to say

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 2>like mad at the world, because I was always told

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 2>that that's what I was, and it was really I

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>was hurting. I was sad, I was going through different

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 2>challenges like we all do in life, and what I

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 2>really just needed was a hug. And so being able to,

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, see a kid that is, you know, without

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.479
<v Speaker 2>revealing too much about their personal stories, like we see

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>these you know kids that are really really struggling, and

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>sometimes the foster system doesn't know what to do with them.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.839
<v Speaker 2>And I think when you're able to just hold their

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>hand throughout you know, they might be swearing at you

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.879
<v Speaker 2>or throwing things at you, and you just hold their

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 2>hand and say like, you're so like I love you

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>so much, and you're so awesome, and you're so smart,

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 2>and finding those things that we can celebrate within them

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 2>while still keeping boundaries and saying like, please don't talk

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 2>to me that way that hurts my feelings, but also

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 2>reminding them how loved they are. I find that to

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 2>be such a healing experience because I think that's what

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>we all need in life, and it's a being a parent,

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>which I'm not, has to be one of the most

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>challenging jobs that a person will ever have. You're a

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 2>mom of.

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Three, yes, ma'am, it is.

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Is it the hardest job in the.

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 1>World, hands down, hands down, And so.

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I have so much grace for parents, and my parents

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 2>and most of my friends are moms, and so I

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 2>just I love that I get to show up and

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 2>love those kids with all my heart and hopefully help

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>them feel seen and valued.

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like you're born to be a person

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that gives love unconditionally.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm going to cry. That's so sweet, Thank you,

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I think so? Yeah?

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you want to have children someday?

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Know? I am lucky. I went the first thing I

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 2>spent money on when my business people are like, what

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 2>did you spend money on when your business took off?

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Because I was really poor for a long time. I

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, really really struggling, not knowing how I was

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>going to pay my rent for many years. And so

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>when the business finally took off, the first thing I

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>spent money on was freezing my eggs. Congratulation And so

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 2>you have babies somewhere, yes, yes, So I would love

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 2>to be a mother someday. I would love to be

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a mother of a little girl. I think that'd be

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>so fun. I want to name her l because I

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:39.439
<v Speaker 2>think the Elwoods character such a like she left such

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 2>an indelible mark on so many young women, myself included.

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 2>And you grew up in that era where it was

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the clueless era where it was like

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the girls. Did your character did you have to like

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 2>play ditzy at times? Or were you always just a

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>smart badass?

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>She had to learn a lot of hard lessons.

0:43:56.920 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, And I think that the ell Woods character

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 2>was so incredible for me, in particular because I got

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 2>to see Alicia Silverstone go from Clueless, which but I

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't allowed to watch that movie. I like, I like

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 2>snuck it. I snuck Spice Girls. This is the funny thing.

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I was allowed to listen to Madonna The Immaculate Collection.

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that doesn't make any sense.

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 2>It's because my mom liked it until I started listening

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 2>to Like a Virgin. Didn't know what that was about,

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 2>but really liked that.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Song, the lyrics, lack of virgin touch for there.

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 2>But I so I was not allowed to listen to

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Spice Girls or watch Clueless, but I was allowed to

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 2>listen to Madonna. So again an empowering person. But yeah,

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 2>we uh. I think the gift of growing up when

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I did in the in the late eighties and nineties

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 2>was being able to witness characters like Elwood's And so

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I would love to name a little girl l and

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 2>just like watch her be a badass. We'll probably watch

0:44:58.600 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 2>her be a pain in the.

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Ass like me. That keeps it fun.

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, totally, yeah, Like I mean, you have three different girls, right,

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 2>is it? Three girls?

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Three girls?

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 2>My gosh, what's that like?

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.280
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. Yeah, it's just it's all I'm in awe

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>all the time of what came out of me, and

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 1>that I've kept them alive this long. Yeah, and that

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.839
<v Speaker 1>they love me. Yeah, they'll love me for the rest

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:27.359
<v Speaker 1>of my life.

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a feeling that's very comforting to me because

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I too, am a small town girl and I love love.

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's cool, but it's not for everyone. Yeah,

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And I have so much respect for women that choose

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>not to have children.

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what this whole podcast is about, is

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>choosing what you need in your life, and so being

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>able to define that is just part of the process.

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that you said that, and I love

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>that you love your girls so much, And gosh, how

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 2>fun to have a mom like you. And I love

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 2>my mom so much, and I think that's it's such

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 2>a special relationship daughters and mothers. And I love boys too,

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 2>like I think it was. I love being auntie to

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 2>all of my friend's kids and things like that too,

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So I love playing with little boys.

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>But you're a girly girl.

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I am a girly earliet. Yeah yeah, And I just think, like,

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 2>what an amazing time to be a woman, Like, oh yeah,

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I am so lucky to have started when I was

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty four in that time where it was it was

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 2>encouraged to be an entrepreneur if you were a woman.

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 2>And I think we are really really lucky. And I

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 2>can't even imagine what these future generations like your daughters

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 2>are going to do. I can't wait to work for

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 2>them someday. It's gonna be awesome.

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Because they'll hire us when we're older. That won't be

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a thing anymore.

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally, Yes, we are Like the whole age thing

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 2>is just a number at this point, Like it really is.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we are beautiful at every single age.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Work with the coolest nonprofit called the Glama Project. Glama,

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the Glama Project, it's the coolest. Yeah.

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I love Grandma's and be I love glam So.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 2>We need to hang out with the Glamas. If you

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 2>any day need if you ever need a boost of confidence,

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 2>you hang out with the Glamas. We go into nursing

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 2>homes with the Glama Project and we do full glam

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 2>on them, we take headshots.

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, they must love it.

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 2>And they're teaching us tips and tricks like that's I mean,

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that's like the fun is.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>It's so reciprocal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Yeah. I was really lucky. I was

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 2>a you know, I had two really powerful grandmothers, like

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>very very strong women. One of my grandmothers immigrated here

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 2>from when when she was young, in from Germany and

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 2>she was a total badass. My Grandma Ruth, and then

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 2>my Grandma Jackie was amazing woman who went from you know,

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 2>not graduating from college and you know, being an alcoholic

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 2>and having a son who was a drug addict, and

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 2>just a lot of really immense challenges to in her

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:12.240
<v Speaker 2>fifties talk about like making a lasting impact. In her fifties,

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 2>she decided to go to college and become a drug

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and alcohol counselor and she did that until she died.

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 2>And she died in her sixties from lung cancer. And

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I just think, like, what an amazing example for me

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>to grow up around. You know, That's why I don't

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>do drugs like I could have. Like when I'm on

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>skid row, I'm like, oh yeah, I very easily could

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 2>have wound up here, you know. And I think that

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 2>having a grandmother like her to basically do the DARE program.

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Every time I would go over to her class, she

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 2>had like those remember the posters that were like a

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 2>R e yes, and she would like fry the egg

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and be like this is your brain on crack. And

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, I'm not going to do crack. Grandma like,

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 2>but you know, her dying wish was that I would

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 2>never do drugs or smoke. And I swear to God,

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're talking about Christy and Luke and everybody

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.800
<v Speaker 2>being spiritually around us. My Grandma Jackie is like sitting

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 2>right here and she would throw a lightning bolt down

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 2>from heaven if I did drugs. So I'm scared. I'm

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>too scared to do drugs.

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Good.

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:12.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine with other people doing it, but I'm scared

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 2>because Grandma Jackie will still.

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Come for me. He'll strike you down.

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes. But the Glama Project, Yes, it's such an amazing nonprofit.

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And I think what I would say about the Glama

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Project is like again it being a mutually beneficial relationship

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.280
<v Speaker 2>of we're helping them feel confident, they're also being Grandma's

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 2>to us that you know, many people lose their grandparents

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 2>very young and never know them, and so we have

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 2>these like bonus grandmas all around us.

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>It's very cool, so cool. Yeah, I want to tell

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody about how your makeup is designed with immune compromise people.

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mind, yeah, Oh my gosh. It's so important to us.

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 2>From the very beginning, I remember, because we wanted to

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.399
<v Speaker 2>give our products to cancer patients. I was calling on

0:49:56.440 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 2>cologists and I was calling different cancer hospitals specific and

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 2>they were saying, we don't want women who are going

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 2>through cancer to wear makeup. And I said, respectfully.

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:10.720
<v Speaker 1>That's bullshit, yeah, and not your choice.

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And I said, you know, this is like

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:17.279
<v Speaker 2>we need to give women an option, Like, yeah, they

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 2>should have an option. And so we worked really hard

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 2>to develop formulas and we still do that are that

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 2>are clean, which means that clean is kind of a

0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:31.120
<v Speaker 2>buzz term in the industry, but clean is really about

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the thousands of thousands of ingredients we will never use,

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and we have a list that we're always building upon

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 2>as we learn more from oncologists or from different scientists.

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 2>We have incredible chemists on our team who are always

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 2>looking at how we can become more clean and really

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 2>create products that are safe for people who are immune compromised.

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.959
<v Speaker 1>So so good. Yeah, I mean, even if you gave

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>me that list that you work off of of no,

0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.359
<v Speaker 1>don't use these products or these ingredients, I would till

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>feel overwhelmed and then therefore not do anything about it

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in my own like cupboards, you know what I mean.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's so good to know that when you buy

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 1>certain brands, you know you're buying clean and it's it

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:18.400
<v Speaker 1>just it changes everything about your decision making because wouldn't

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 1>we all rather use clean ingredients on our skin, in

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>our mouths and our dummies. You know, these things are

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.800
<v Speaker 1>so important in this day and age, especially with the

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>amount of chemicals that are being used, and just like

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, people are like, yeah, I know, but this's

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 1>my favorite lotion or whatever. So it's so good to

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>have options for people that are looking for that.

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And there are so many great brands that are

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.800
<v Speaker 2>doing clean beauty in amazing ways that I find incredibly

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 2>inspiring and for us, like, it's just so amazing that

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:53.399
<v Speaker 2>we have access to so many great doctors through our

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 2>cause you know, like those people, you know, I think

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 2>about my friend doctor Elizabeth Coleman, who's a world renowned

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:05.240
<v Speaker 2>oncologist who is saving lives, preventing disease, helping cure disease.

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 2>She's an amazing person. And being able to talk to

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 2>her and workshop different ingredients and you know, also work with.

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Different amazing that you work with her.

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh do you know her or do you know of her?

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>She's a foundation.

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh my, doctor Elizabeth Coleman is incredible. Yeah, she's at NYU.

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Now she's you should. She wrote this book called All

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 2>in Her Head, which is all about the female anatomy

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 2>and really teaching women and empowering women to know their anatomy. Like,

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:36.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but until I froze my eggs,

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know where my ovaries were. I was just

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about this with my friend the other day.

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 1>They didn't. They don't really, I mean cover that, and

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 1>if they do cover that in school, nobody's listening.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I mean all respect to the Standward school system.

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.319
<v Speaker 2>My dad worked in it, but I don't remember them

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>teaching me totally, Like we're so embarrassed. Yeah, totally. I know. Everybody.

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 2>You're like ten years old and you're sitting next to

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the boy you have a crush on and they're like,

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.359
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about sex. It's like, oh my.

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, yeah, I'm so glad you learned where your ovaries are. Though.

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Who inspires you?

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 2>You inspire me? Oh, I think you are so incredible

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 2>what you've built here and how you've used Oh gosh, oh,

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just you are such an inspiration to

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 2>so many women. And when I told people I was

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 2>going on your show, they were like, oh my gosh,

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Jenny Garth is amazing. What you've done with your career

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and how you've really used it to impact people is amazing.

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 2>You inspire me.

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad. Yeah, yeah, I mean it, And I love

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.840
<v Speaker 2>knowing you now better too, Like it's one thing to

0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:51.239
<v Speaker 2>read about a person, but to feel your spirit and

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.399
<v Speaker 2>how warm you are, it's how I want to live

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 2>my life. And when I think about other people who

0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:00.080
<v Speaker 2>inspire me, I think so much about the people that

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:04.359
<v Speaker 2>we get to serve and oftentimes we name products after them.

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>So I think about Raquel, who is herself is a

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 2>breast cancer survivor and she went on to go work

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>at self esteem rising and help empower so many women.

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 2>If that was the nonprofit. I was talking about five

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 2>years old to one hundred years old and teaching these

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 2>self esteem classes, and then she went on to go

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 2>create her own nonprofit, and so like, that's an example

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:30.840
<v Speaker 2>of a woman who has experienced something that's really scary

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 2>and that we hope never happens to people that we

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, anybody in the world, but inevitably, unfortunately, cancer

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.279
<v Speaker 2>is way too close to too many of us. And

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 2>so I'm inspired by people like that who take their

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 2>pain and they put it into purpose. And so Raquel

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:47.839
<v Speaker 2>is always at the top of the list. I think

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 2>of my friend Nolly. I think of our amazing employees

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>as well, you know, just watching them overcome their challenges

0:54:56.560 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and still coming up with really creative solutions like building

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:03.279
<v Speaker 2>a business and being a part of a business is

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 2>never easy, and so I think being a part of

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.160
<v Speaker 2>a team is really inspirational to say, Okay, well we're

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 2>in this together. We have three values that our company,

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.359
<v Speaker 2>and one of them is one team, one score, and

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 2>it's that idea of togetherness and that we really are

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 2>here to serve the collective and that it's not about

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>me as an individual or you as an individual. It's

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.640
<v Speaker 2>really about coming together and supporting one another because we're

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.399
<v Speaker 2>supporting something that collectively is bigger than all of us,

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:31.919
<v Speaker 2>which is our cause. So I'm inspired by a lot

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 2>of people.

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:33.240
<v Speaker 1>That's great.

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could go on for hours.

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean no, that's just good to keep your eyes

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 1>open because the inspiring people are everywhere you look.

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true, very true.

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, CHRISA. Bodner, I have a question for you. Yeah,

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>what was your last I choose me moment?

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I love this question because for me, I have to

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 2>choose myself every day, and I think that it's like

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>choosing to to wake up and walk on the treadmill

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 2>instead of you know, sitting and doom scrolling for an

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 2>hour and then feeling depressed. You know, I think I

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 2>used to believe that there was this moment where we

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 2>would arrive, meaning that we don't feel depressing thoughts, that

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 2>we don't feel anxious. And I feel like choosing myself

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:25.719
<v Speaker 2>is a daily practice that I come back to and

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 2>that sometimes I go on a three week streak where

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling awesome and I overcome a challenge, and then

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 2>there are times where I'm really struggling. You know, every

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 2>single day and every hour of every single day and

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 2>saying I don't want to do this, you know, but

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:44.719
<v Speaker 2>I think being able to come back to the basics

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 2>of like, okay, mood follows action. So I'm going to

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:50.719
<v Speaker 2>go for a walk. I'm going to go for a

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:52.919
<v Speaker 2>five minute walk without my phone, even though I don't

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 2>want to. All I want to do is be addicted

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 2>to my phone and sit here and be pissed off

0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 2>about my life. But I'm actually gonna get up and

0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go for a walk, and inevitably I

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 2>feel better after five minutes.

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:09.240
<v Speaker 3>So those little choices, yeah, yeah, And once you start

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:13.919
<v Speaker 3>thinking and asking yourself, how do I choose myself, you'll

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 3>start to notice all the little things that you do

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 3>and then you'll be like, hey, I just had and

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I choose me moment.

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel good about that.

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I love that I choose me movement that you have created,

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and it's such a great reminder to be like, how

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 2>are you choosing yourself today? This is every day we

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 2>have to we have to. Yeah.

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed our talk and I've enjoyed getting to

0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>know you. Oh, thank you, Joe, And I just have

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 1>all the hopes for massive success and happiness in your life.

0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you so much, Jenny. This was so fun.

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Thank you