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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hi, everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about

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Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My

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Speaker 1: gorgeous guest today is a trailblazer who founded a brand

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Speaker 1: that is vegan, clean and able to be used by

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Speaker 1: people who are immune compromised, which is so cool. Her

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Speaker 1: beauty brand has an incredible message behind it and I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to talk with her. Please welcome the founder

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Speaker 1: of Thrive Cosmetics, Carissa Bodner to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Jenny, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled that you're here.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: You are beautiful. For anybody that can't see you right now,

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Speaker 1: she's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: You're so kind.

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Speaker 1: This is so fun. I want to go back though.

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Speaker 1: We were just chatting before a minute ago about our humble beginnings. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we both grew up in the woods. We did out

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Speaker 1: in the country. You grew up in rural Washington.

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Speaker 2: Yes I did, and Stanwood, Washington.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Stanley.

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Speaker 2: I always shout out my hometown. I grew up in

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Speaker 2: a small town of Stanwood, Washington, which is about five

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Speaker 2: thousand people.

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Speaker 1: It sounds very similar to I don't even know how

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Speaker 1: many mine had.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know until somebody in the press told me that.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was kind.

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Speaker 1: Of wait, do they have, Like, was that fast food

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Speaker 1: restaurants in your town or no?

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Speaker 2: No? So when I was when I was really young,

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Speaker 2: they didn't. And when we I was just talking about

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Speaker 2: this the other day, when we got a McDonald's, it

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Speaker 2: was like a national holiday had happened. What about you?

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Speaker 1: Same thing. We had a dairy Queen when I lived there.

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Speaker 1: Dairy Queen's the best.

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Speaker 2: Ow My god, you know what we should be doing

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Speaker 2: is eating doing this interview while we're eating dairy queen

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Speaker 2: ice cream cake, because I think that's the best ice

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Speaker 2: cream cake plan.

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Speaker 1: I'd give up my no dairy for you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, But we're small town's sister is how fun?

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Speaker 2: And my mom is named Jenny. Your dad's name is John. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so awesome. My dad's middle name is John. So we're

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Speaker 2: basically sisters.

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Speaker 1: Growing up in a small town like that. How did

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Speaker 1: you figure out what you wanted for your life?

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Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. I think for me, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: work in the beauty industry because I loved that it

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Speaker 2: was this vehicle for helping me who. I think we

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Speaker 2: all can relate to having different insecurities when we're growing up,

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Speaker 2: like we go through the acne pace. I mean, hopefully

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Speaker 2: people don't, but I think most of us do. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I had you know, I had teeth that

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Speaker 2: were all over the place, and so I was trying

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Speaker 2: to draw attention to my eyes instead of my lips

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Speaker 2: at a certain point. And I remember reading that. Do

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Speaker 2: you remember the Bobby Brown book that had it was

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Speaker 2: like an actual book that you could read with makeup

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Speaker 2: artistry tips. It came out in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I ever saw I saw the hairstyle ones.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, those are different, though, what the what was

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Speaker 2: I mean it was it was an instructional book. This

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Speaker 2: was before you two, and we didn't have internet at

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Speaker 2: the time, and so it was really this opportunity for

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Speaker 2: me to learn. I would read books like the Cosmetic

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Speaker 2: Ingredient Dictionary to learn how to make the makeup, and

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Speaker 2: then I would read the artistry books to learn how

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Speaker 2: to do makeup. And so I loved it. Wasn't like

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Speaker 2: I had this clear path of, Oh, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: In fact, that was not on my Bengo card, as

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Speaker 2: the cool kids say. Now, it was really about wanting

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Speaker 2: the makeup. And I didn't even know what product development was,

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Speaker 2: I had no idea that that's what it was. I

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Speaker 2: hair from a Loreal Faria box because I wanted that

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Speaker 2: I just yeah, it's I think it comes from that

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Speaker 2: it's also this opportunity to help other people feel confident. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I've always loved like I started as a makeup

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Speaker 1: Oh like, okay, so you're the one of the gals

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Speaker 1: they help you find things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was.

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Speaker 2: We were called cast members at the time, okay, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was a cast member. And when we were working

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Speaker 2: loved the Sephora training was so cool. I worked there

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Speaker 2: But as far as growing up in a small town, like,

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Speaker 2: my goal was to win, you know, like the high

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Speaker 2: goal was to win most likely to stay in Stanwood.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you get that title?

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Speaker 2: No? I didn't win it.

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Speaker 1: No, did you win? Did they give you any I got?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. These are the two I got.

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Speaker 2: I got best Hair okay, I can see it. And

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Speaker 2: I got most Gullible Okay, which, like I still have

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Speaker 2: mixed feelings about. Oh my god, did you win any

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Speaker 2: of those awards? No, I didn't go to high school.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I mean I did for a minute, but yes,

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Speaker 2: and life happened. Yes, you were a global star.

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Speaker 1: I went to the High School of Life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When did you win? I mean, I know nine two,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what age you were. How old

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Speaker 1: I was sixteen going on seventeen.

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Speaker 2: And you were like the biggest star on the planet

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Speaker 1: Old when I was seventeen eighteen. Thanks God, nuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do we need to have a prom for? You?

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Speaker 2: Have you had prom?

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Speaker 1: I did go when I was a freshman in high school.

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Speaker 1: I went to my senior boyfriend prom. I've done it.

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Speaker 1: And now I have three grown daughters who have all

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Speaker 1: had their proms. Okay, which so grateful. That's over. But

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Speaker 1: what did your parents do? Like, did you have entrepreneurialship

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think I had it in the soil that

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Speaker 2: I was raised on. I in Stanwood, everybody was an

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Speaker 2: dad was a teacher, so is mine. Do you know,

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Speaker 2: Woul Do you remember what grade he taught?

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Speaker 1: My dad taught adult education. He taught adults that hadn't

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Speaker 2: My dad did that too. That is yeah, that is

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Speaker 2: so cool. He still does that. He's now retired from

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Speaker 1: He still does that. That is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he so. My dad started as an elementary school. Actually,

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Speaker 2: and he did all kinds of different jobs within education.

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Speaker 2: But I'm really inspired by my dad and teachers in

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Speaker 2: it's a big reason why we added our education pillar.

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Speaker 2: We have so many different causes we support, and education

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Speaker 2: part of it, I think is my you know, growing

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Speaker 2: time I didn't really appreciate all of Like did you

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Speaker 2: I had summer school, but it wasn't official. It was

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Speaker 2: like the bot our summer school.

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Speaker 1: No no. I When he left the school, he became

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think though, like what a gift to

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Speaker 2: I say the soil that I was raised on. I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, my parents always fostered an entrepreneurial spirit within me,

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Speaker 2: even though they weren't entrepreneurs. But growing up in Stanwood,

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Speaker 2: really lucky that I grew up around so many entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I love that it was in the soil.

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Speaker 2: I was doing all kinds of crazy stuff.

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Speaker 1: Okay, our childhood sounds so similar. Were you alone when

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Speaker 2: I was too. Yeah. I have a sister, but I

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Speaker 2: like to joke that she was more of an indoor cat.

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Speaker 2: So she likes to play with dolls. She liked to

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Speaker 2: we didn't have cable. But I definitely know of nine

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Speaker 2: the whole I choose me and how this is woven

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Speaker 2: into really who you are as a person. I think

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Speaker 2: it's so cool. And but yeah we're talking I was

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Speaker 2: born just like Taylor Swift in nineteen eighty nine. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I felt really seen when that album came out, I bet,

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Speaker 2: and I'm a swifty Swifty I mean too, I mean

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Speaker 2: did you see her eras tour? I mean epic?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is so good.

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Speaker 2: I still watch it, like the the Disney Plus version

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Speaker 1: I feel like once was enough for me. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not that much of a Swifty fan. I love listening

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Speaker 1: to her music, though, like girls have grown up on

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Speaker 2: want to underscore how important our community has been to

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Speaker 2: be able to donate at that scale. It's we've now

439
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: donated over one hundred and fifty million dollars in both

440
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: funds and products since I started. And that is millions

441
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: of people showing up saying I'm going to vote with

442
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: my dollars and I want to give back. It's amazing.

443
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Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty million, you guys, that's that's a

444
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: big number. You should be so proud. I know I

445
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: can tell that you are. This sounds like your why.

446
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: That's my why? Yeah, I think, yeah, Sorry, I didn't

447
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: even answer your question super directly. I went on a

448
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: whole tangent, but I got it. I tend to do that.

449
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: What I will say, though, is, you know, I have

450
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: the great privilege of working with over seventy people every

451
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: single day to build this company. Our team is everything

452
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: to me and I wouldn't be able to even be

453
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: here with you without a team. And so I think

454
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: that's another important piece of my why to really underscore,

455
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: because I'm motivated every single day to be the best

456
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 2: version of myself as a leader and as a person

457
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 2: because of the people that I get to work with

458
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: on our team, and that's a I didn't have that

459
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: as a part of my why when I first started,

460
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: because I couldn't afford employees. Yeh. And I was twenty

461
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: four years old, so I didn't really know how to

462
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: manage people or I didn't have a ton of experience

463
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 2: doing that, And so I think that's another piece of

464
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: my why is. You know, I've done this for over

465
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 2: ten years and it always inspires me to work with

466
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: our team as well.

467
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: You said your first I'm going to ask you about

468
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: your how in a minute, but I wanted to make

469
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Speaker 1: sure I covered this too. You said your first charitable

470
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: fundraising was for camp Sir. Yeah, is there a specific reason?

471
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I have this ring that I wear. I

472
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: cry every time I talk about my friend Christy. I yeah,

473
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 2: I started this business after losing my friend Christy to

474
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 2: cancer and I was twenty three, she was twenty four.

475
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: And I was so inspired by the way that she

476
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: really dedicated her life to helping other people, Like while

477
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: I was I'm going to be a product developer and

478
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to you know, I want to work in

479
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: a laboratory and make makeup and skincare. She was like, CHRISA,

480
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Tanzania and I'm going to

481
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: help empower young girls and teach them English. And she

482
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: again coming back to education being such an important pillar

483
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: for us as a company. That's what she was doing.

484
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: She was teaching over in Tanzania. And so for me,

485
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: Christy is like the reason why I wear this ring

486
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 2: in honor of her, and why I love to put

487
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: sunflower seed oil in and all of our products, almost

488
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: all of our products, is because that was really her symbol.

489
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: She loved sunflowers, and after she passed away, we created

490
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: this sunflower sticker that I keep with me in my

491
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 2: wallet that we would put on like the Eiffel Tower,

492
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: or when we would go on a hike, we would

493
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: like take a picture because she loved to travel. And

494
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: so for me, it was, you know, losing her was

495
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: that moment where I think a lot of people go

496
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: through this when a tragedy happens, we kind of reevaluate

497
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: our lives and what we're doing. And Christie's death taught

498
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: me how finite life is and also that we should

499
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: be waking up every day feeling like we're living our purpose.

500
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: And I absolutely loved making makeup and putting makeup on people,

501
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: and I loved skincare and all of that. It was

502
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: so fun. And then there was this element of like, God,

503
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: I want to be like donating. I want to be

504
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: donating this makeup and teaching people how to use this

505
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: make up up. And so I never would have started

506
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 2: a beauty brand, like I really really wouldn't have. I

507
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: was very happy in a secure job situation. Entrepreneurship is

508
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: not a secure job situation, and it's not easy. And

509
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, it's really Christie's passing that

510
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: propelled me.

511
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: To that's so heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time

512
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: that your brand is built around this loss.

513
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and friendship and the power of that. Yeah, I

514
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: swear to God I know Christie better than when she

515
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 2: was here ten years ago.

516
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I talk about this sometimes. Oh, tell me when

517
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: you lose someone, Yeah, your relationship expands with them?

518
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Okay, tell me your stories about this, because

519
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: that's so cool.

520
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: Well, my my my thing is like life is busy.

521
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: We're all busy, We're all doing all of our things,

522
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: and friendships are there, but you know, we touch upon

523
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: those bases here and there when we have time and

524
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: when specifically my friend Luke died, I and my dad

525
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: of course, but I as a friend, I felt when

526
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: he passed, like after I was, you know, well into

527
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: my grieving process, I felt him with me all the time,

528
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: whereas before it was just here and there when we

529
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: would talk or when we would see each other. But

530
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: now there's this like this feeling in me around me

531
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: wherever I go, exactly, Harriet. Yeah, And there's just something

532
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: so indescribable, indescribable about that feeling.

533
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: That I have chills because that's exactly how I feel. Yeah,

534
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: especially in the tough times. Yeah, Like I I totally agree,

535
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry that you lost your friend. Luke's

536
00:26:52,440 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah, I'm so sorry. It's it's such a

537
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: unavoidable tragedy of life. And I agree with you completely.

538
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: I feel I feel Christie around me all the time.

539
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: I see her in the eyes of the people that

540
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: we're serving, and I feel her even here with us now,

541
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: and I just it's it's almost like this guiding compass.

542
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: It's interesting, this is like the most la story. I

543
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: don't even I don't really know. So again, not from LA.

544
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: Grew up in a really small town, conservative Christian household. Okay,

545
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: so the horoscopes were not a big part of my upbringing.

546
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: And so then all of a sudden, when we moved

547
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: the business to LA in twenty eighteen, people started talking

548
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: to me about my signs all the time, and I like,

549
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: I knew I was a cancer because I was born

550
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: in July, but like, I didn't know the whole scope

551
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: of this. But the reason why I'm saying this is

552
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: an LA story is that we have an annual party

553
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: with our team and we the team, I was like,

554
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: where's the photographer. I remember going to our this amazing

555
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: people leader, Grace, and then one of our team members, Michelle,

556
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: and I was like, why didn't we have a photographer?

557
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: They're like, we ran out of budget and I was like, guys,

558
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: we had hired a tarot card reader instead. But she

559
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: was amazing. She was amazing.

560
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: Is that your first experience with that?

561
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, I actually didn't get to sit with her,

562
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 2: but she because the line was so long with our

563
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: team and the team loved it. But I'm like, I

564
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: want photos because I love printing photos of our team

565
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: and then like framing them for them. But I the

566
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: Tarot card reader pulled me aside and she said, I

567
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: don't know your story, but I want to let you

568
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: know that this company is blessed by divine energy and

569
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: divine power. And I'm like, I just start crying because

570
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: I was like, Yeah, it really is.

571
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: Ah, that's so incredible. How did you get out of

572
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 1: your apartment into the marketplace?

573
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: Well, you unlock the door and I'm just.

574
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: Kidding, somebody let me out.

575
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Yes. So when I started the business back in twenty

576
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: thirteen twenty fourteen, e commerce businesses weren't really a thing

577
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: at the time, and so I really I literally went

578
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: like door to door trying to get different retailers to

579
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: carry the products. And I don't know what it was,

580
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: but they didn't really believe in the vision of what

581
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: I was trying to create at the time. And I

582
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: only had one product, which were our false slashes that

583
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: were it was paired with our lash adhesive or lash glue.

584
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: That was your first product.

585
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: It was the first product. Yeah, and it's it was

586
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: a really important product because I saw this firsthand working

587
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: as a makeup artist with people who were going through

588
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: cancer or my friend Christy that when you lose your lashes,

589
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: which many people do when they go through chemotherapy, they

590
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: aren't able to use traditional slashes.

591
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Right because there's no lash to stick them on exactly.

592
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that was so what I created were

593
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: these really incredible lashes. I created them in my kitchen,

594
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: like handmade them with little fibers, and I will never

595
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: let the team throw out the original fibers. We're about

596
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: to move our office and I'm like, do not throw

597
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: away the lash fibers. Yeah. I would use like eggs,

598
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: like I would use an egg as my surface area

599
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: because I was trying to mimic what it would be

600
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: like to have an eyelid without lashes. But what I

601
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: found in the process was that they were really durable

602
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: and long lasting, like people could wear them twenty or

603
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: thirty times, and they were like everybody loved them. And

604
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: so that was what I was pitching the retailers on

605
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: and unfortunately, well it was actually fortunate for me in

606
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: the long run and for the business. I had to

607
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: build a direct to consumer business and I didn't know

608
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: how to do that.

609
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: So because you never went to school for business, you never.

610
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: I kind of did wasn't the best student. I'm going

611
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: to be honest. I went to community college, which I

612
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: think is great. And so I went to Bellevue Community College,

613
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: and yes I took chemistry classes, Yes I took business classes.

614
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: But I was the kid that wanted to go to

615
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: itt Tech so that I could work during the day,

616
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: like I was getting d's in like classes like nutrition

617
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: that only required participation because I wasn't showing up to class.

618
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: Because I got an opportunity Nordstrum. I had an internship

619
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: at the time, and they were like, would you like

620
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: to work this photo shoot tomorrow at eight am? And

621
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: I was like, heck, yeah, I want to work that.

622
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: And I definitely had a class at that time. And

623
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: so I struggled in school, but not because the teachers

624
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: weren't awesome. I just wanted to be working and I

625
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: had so many cool internship opportunities. But I did graduate

626
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: from University of Washington, not with a business degree, even

627
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: though I was in the business school. I dropped the

628
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: business school so I could graduate early and then go

629
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: work at Clarsona. That was what I So I did graduate,

630
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: but barely. Like that was a long winded way of

631
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: me saying I wasn't a good student. Don't be like me.

632
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: So you basically just on a wing and a prayer,

633
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: like you figured this out as you went, Oh.

634
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I only knew the chemistry side and the

635
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: artistry side, Like I only knew how to make the

636
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: products and then how to make people feel amazing when

637
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: they were using them. And so I've made a lot

638
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: of mistakes. I joke that I have a PhD and

639
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: what not to do. I've paid a lot in different

640
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: fees of you know, fines, legal fees, all kinds of

641
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: things because of all the mistakes that I've made. And

642
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: I think every time, you know, I think it can

643
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: be really lonely and depressing at times when you're making

644
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: so many mistakes, as I did. But I had to

645
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: just flip it and be like, I'm just this is

646
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: just adding to my degree and my PhD of what

647
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: not to do, and I won't do it that way again.

648
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: So I really like to think of it as failing forward.

649
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: Yes exactly. I was just thinking that.

650
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because otherwise it's like what are we going to do?

651
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: You know, We're all going to make mistakes, whether you

652
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: have a business degree from Harvard or like me, you

653
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: went to community college. I think entrepreneurship is the school

654
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: of hard knocks, Like you can't teach some of the

655
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: things that you're going to go through. And I kind

656
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: of think that's the magic of it, though, because if

657
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: I would have known how hard it was, I probably

658
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it. And I'm so glad I did,

659
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: and I'm so glad I didn't give up. I think

660
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: like that was so to answer your question about getting

661
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: out of the apartment, it was the power of our community.

662
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: I will never, you know, not be grateful for every

663
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: single customer, because there was a point in time where

664
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: I was looking at every single order coming through on

665
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: my phone and then personally shipping it myself out of

666
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: the apartment. And you know, friends and family were helpful.

667
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: My boyfriend built the website and you know, did an

668
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: amazing job, and you know, has really helped fuel the

669
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: growth of the company. And I just think, you know,

670
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: my parents helped with order fulfillment, Like I wouldn't be

671
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: here without an amazing community of customers and people who've

672
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: just said, hey, I believe in you, And you know,

673
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: that's that's why I'm here, is how I got out

674
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: of the apartment.

675
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: What Yeah, you said before. I think failure is just

676
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: a part of growing. Yeah, we don't fail, We're not

677
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: learning totally.

678
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and think about your career and what

679
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: you've been able to build, and how many different things

680
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: that you've you know, failed forward through. I can only

681
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: imagine what it's like to be learning those lessons at sixteen,

682
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 2: seventeen years old.

683
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: I know I'm thinking the same thing about you, because

684
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: you're considerably younger than me, and you have found this

685
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: magical space that you feel so supported in and you

686
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: feel such a purpose. You know, finding that purpose at

687
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: a young ages is a gift.

688
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you know that acting was your purpose?

689
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's bigger now than.

690
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: I never knew acting was my purpose.

691
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: I just assumed.

692
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah know, I stumbled into it and I found myself

693
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: just in the deep water, so I started swimming. Yeah,

694
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: and along the way, I did grow to develop a

695
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: great love for what I did, and I really enjoyed that.

696
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: The acting, which is a very small part of what

697
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: you do every day as an actor. There's just a

698
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: small amount of time when you're doing that scene, when

699
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: you're on camera, when you're on your mark you're on

700
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: the set, but there's so much waiting, there's so much

701
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, chatting, chatting all on the set, all those

702
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: things I wasn't a fan of. But yeah, once I started, also,

703
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: like you said, meeting the community, hearing how important the

704
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: show was to people, or the impact that my storylines

705
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: that Kelly went through had on somebody else, That's when

706
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: I started to go like, yeah, I'm doing this for

707
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: a reason. Yeah, you talked before about the brand giving

708
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: back to so many different charities, and I just love

709
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: this part of what you're doing. And I know that

710
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: you do too. I can tell it's the best. Yeah.

711
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: I saw some footage of you taking your products down

712
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: to skid Row.

713
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: Yes, well, surely, and Beauty to the streets. Yeah, to

714
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: the streets.

715
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: That's right.

716
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: Yes, you should come sometime. It's really such a transformational experience.

717
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: I mean, or I mean, there's so many things we

718
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: could do together. I know you're really big on women's empowerment,

719
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: so there's so many different giving partners that we could

720
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: we could work together with. And yeah, sorry, I totally

721
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: cut you off because I got so excited about my

722
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: friend Shirley.

723
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Sorry, surely shout out to Shirley. Yes, yeah, but no,

724
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: it's just that is such an important element I think

725
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: to give you that purpose, you know, that drive to

726
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: help others. And I saw the transformation on these women,

727
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: these unhoused women are down on their luck. Yeah, and

728
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: they you know, nobody's looking at them like seeing them.

729
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

730
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 1: And I think when you are standing right in front

731
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: of them, close to them, and you're applying makeup to

732
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: them and you're encouraging them through words and through touch, Wow,

733
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: that's so powerful.

734
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: It's it's so powerful, and I think it's also powerful

735
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: for us as people, Like anytime I'm bringing somebody on

736
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: a giving trip, because these are you know, we're talking

737
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: about skid roads. It's not a safe place, right we

738
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, we're going to some really intense areas of

739
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: the world when we're serving people, not always you know, sometimes,

740
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: but they're they're heavy situations. And what I always tell

741
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: people is I'm like, this is going to change your life. Like, yes,

742
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 2: you're going to change lives, but you're really going to

743
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: be changed from this. Like I didn't know how much

744
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: internal healing I needed until I started working with some

745
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: of these giving partners, like the Foster Community and these

746
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: kids that I get to work with through you know,

747
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: the work that we do. They have healed me in

748
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: ways that I can't even fully put into words. But

749
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: you know, I think also to people who are going

750
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: through cancer, like the being able to work with those

751
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 2: those people, seeing that, you know, the incredible, really scary

752
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: challenges that we go through don't define who we are,

753
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: and being able to witness somebody else inspiring us in

754
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: that way. Like I think about my friend Nali, who

755
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: is one of our namesakes or Infinity water Proof yeliner namesakes.

756
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: But my friend Nlly, she was my age and she

757
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: reminded me so much of my friend Christy. And we

758
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: met when we were both twenty four and she was

759
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: going through breast cancer the first time, and she was

760
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: like the most inspirational, motivational speaker, Like if she she

761
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: probably well spiritually she is sitting here with us, but

762
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 2: she would be like she could just light up a room,

763
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: whether it was five people or five thousand people, And

764
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: until her last breath, she was inspiring people, whether she

765
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 2: would she would go speak at conferences that weren't even

766
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: about cancer. It was just about really living your life

767
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: to the fullest. And I think being able to witness

768
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: people like that has helped me recognize that the things

769
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: that I am struggling with don't necessarily define me or

770
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: the mistakes that I've made. You know, I think we

771
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: all go through different health challenges, which I have had

772
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: in my life too, and I think it gives us

773
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: certain appreciation for life. But also like, let's not put

774
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: ourselves in boxes. You know the world will already try

775
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: to do that, so let's like keep our boxes as

776
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: open as possible.

777
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you said that working with the foster kids helped

778
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: heal you. What are some of the things that you

779
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: noticed healing?

780
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I think you know, I was labeled

781
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: pretty early on as being like a tough kid and

782
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: a kid that was Now I embraced being called tough

783
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: because I think that's awesome, you know. I see it

784
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: as a as a you know, a badge of honor.

785
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: But very early on in my life I was told that,

786
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, I talk too much, that I'm argumentative, that

787
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: I need to kind of color within the lines, if

788
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: you will, And I just wasn't a kid that was

789
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: meant to do that. I was meant to be running around,

790
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: you know, on a dirt road on a farm, and

791
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: I had a lot of energy, and I was really creative,

792
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: and I appreciate that my parents really fostered that within me.

793
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: And I think I also was challenging for them to

794
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: raise and they they would say that if they were

795
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: sitting here, but I think I know they loved me,

796
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: but I think there was a lot of pressure to

797
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: fit within a certain box. And so when I see

798
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: these kids who have also been labeled as a problem,

799
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: I love them. I'm like immediately attracted to them. I

800
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: think I'm perpetually meant to have a complicated, complicated and

801
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying, in air quotes, thirteen year old in my life,

802
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: specifically a girl I want like a thirteen year old

803
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: girl always in my life that's like angsty and like,

804
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, like and I don't even want to say

805
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: like mad at the world, because I was always told

806
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: that that's what I was, and it was really I

807
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: was hurting. I was sad, I was going through different

808
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: challenges like we all do in life, and what I

809
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: really just needed was a hug. And so being able to,

810
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, see a kid that is, you know, without

811
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 2: revealing too much about their personal stories, like we see

812
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: these you know kids that are really really struggling, and

813
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: sometimes the foster system doesn't know what to do with them.

814
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: And I think when you're able to just hold their

815
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: hand throughout you know, they might be swearing at you

816
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: or throwing things at you, and you just hold their

817
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: hand and say like, you're so like I love you

818
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: so much, and you're so awesome, and you're so smart,

819
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: and finding those things that we can celebrate within them

820
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: while still keeping boundaries and saying like, please don't talk

821
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: to me that way that hurts my feelings, but also

822
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: reminding them how loved they are. I find that to

823
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: be such a healing experience because I think that's what

824
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 2: we all need in life, and it's a being a parent,

825
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: which I'm not, has to be one of the most

826
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: challenging jobs that a person will ever have. You're a

827
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: mom of.

828
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Three, yes, ma'am, it is.

829
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: Is it the hardest job in the.

830
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: World, hands down, hands down, And so.

831
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: I have so much grace for parents, and my parents

832
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: and most of my friends are moms, and so I

833
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: just I love that I get to show up and

834
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: love those kids with all my heart and hopefully help

835
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: them feel seen and valued.

836
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: And it sounds like you're born to be a person

837
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: that gives love unconditionally.

838
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: Oh I'm going to cry. That's so sweet, Thank you,

839
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: I think so? Yeah?

840
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you want to have children someday?

841
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: Know? I am lucky. I went the first thing I

842
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: spent money on when my business people are like, what

843
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: did you spend money on when your business took off?

844
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: Because I was really poor for a long time. I

845
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: was like, really really struggling, not knowing how I was

846
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: going to pay my rent for many years. And so

847
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: when the business finally took off, the first thing I

848
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: spent money on was freezing my eggs. Congratulation And so

849
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: you have babies somewhere, yes, yes, So I would love

850
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: to be a mother someday. I would love to be

851
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: a mother of a little girl. I think that'd be

852
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: so fun. I want to name her l because I

853
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 2: think the Elwoods character such a like she left such

854
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: an indelible mark on so many young women, myself included.

855
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: And you grew up in that era where it was

856
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: kind of like the clueless era where it was like

857
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: the girls. Did your character did you have to like

858
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: play ditzy at times? Or were you always just a

859
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: smart badass?

860
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: No?

861
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: She had to learn a lot of hard lessons.

862
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I think that the ell Woods character

863
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: was so incredible for me, in particular because I got

864
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: to see Alicia Silverstone go from Clueless, which but I

865
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to watch that movie. I like, I like

866
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: snuck it. I snuck Spice Girls. This is the funny thing.

867
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: I was allowed to listen to Madonna The Immaculate Collection.

868
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: Okay, that doesn't make any sense.

869
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: It's because my mom liked it until I started listening

870
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: to Like a Virgin. Didn't know what that was about,

871
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: but really liked that.

872
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: Song, the lyrics, lack of virgin touch for there.

873
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: But I so I was not allowed to listen to

874
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: Spice Girls or watch Clueless, but I was allowed to

875
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: listen to Madonna. So again an empowering person. But yeah,

876
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: we uh. I think the gift of growing up when

877
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: I did in the in the late eighties and nineties

878
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: was being able to witness characters like Elwood's And so

879
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: I would love to name a little girl l and

880
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: just like watch her be a badass. We'll probably watch

881
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: her be a pain in the.

882
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: Ass like me. That keeps it fun.

883
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: Yes, totally, yeah, Like I mean, you have three different girls, right,

884
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: is it? Three girls?

885
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: Three girls?

886
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: My gosh, what's that like?

887
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, it's just it's all I'm in awe

888
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: all the time of what came out of me, and

889
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: that I've kept them alive this long. Yeah, and that

890
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: they love me. Yeah, they'll love me for the rest

891
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: of my life.

892
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: You know.

893
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: That's that's a feeling that's very comforting to me because

894
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: I too, am a small town girl and I love love.

895
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's cool, but it's not for everyone. Yeah,

896
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: And I have so much respect for women that choose

897
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: not to have children.

898
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

899
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what this whole podcast is about, is

900
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: choosing what you need in your life, and so being

901
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: able to define that is just part of the process.

902
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that you said that, and I love

903
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: that you love your girls so much, And gosh, how

904
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: fun to have a mom like you. And I love

905
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: my mom so much, and I think that's it's such

906
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: a special relationship daughters and mothers. And I love boys too,

907
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: like I think it was. I love being auntie to

908
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: all of my friend's kids and things like that too,

909
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: So I love playing with little boys.

910
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: But you're a girly girl.

911
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: I am a girly earliet. Yeah yeah, And I just think, like,

912
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 2: what an amazing time to be a woman, Like, oh yeah,

913
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: I am so lucky to have started when I was

914
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: twenty four in that time where it was it was

915
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: encouraged to be an entrepreneur if you were a woman.

916
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: And I think we are really really lucky. And I

917
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: can't even imagine what these future generations like your daughters

918
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: are going to do. I can't wait to work for

919
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: them someday. It's gonna be awesome.

920
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Because they'll hire us when we're older. That won't be

921
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: a thing anymore.

922
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, Yes, we are Like the whole age thing

923
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: is just a number at this point, Like it really is.

924
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean, we are beautiful at every single age.

925
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: This is true.

926
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Work with the coolest nonprofit called the Glama Project. Glama,

927
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: the Glama Project, it's the coolest. Yeah.

928
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: I love Grandma's and be I love glam So.

929
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: We need to hang out with the Glamas. If you

930
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: any day need if you ever need a boost of confidence,

931
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: you hang out with the Glamas. We go into nursing

932
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: homes with the Glama Project and we do full glam

933
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: on them, we take headshots.

934
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they must love it.

935
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: And they're teaching us tips and tricks like that's I mean,

936
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: I think that's like the fun is.

937
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: It's so reciprocal.

938
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah. I was really lucky. I was

939
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: a you know, I had two really powerful grandmothers, like

940
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: very very strong women. One of my grandmothers immigrated here

941
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: from when when she was young, in from Germany and

942
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: she was a total badass. My Grandma Ruth, and then

943
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: my Grandma Jackie was amazing woman who went from you know,

944
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: not graduating from college and you know, being an alcoholic

945
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: and having a son who was a drug addict, and

946
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: just a lot of really immense challenges to in her

947
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: fifties talk about like making a lasting impact. In her fifties,

948
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: she decided to go to college and become a drug

949
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: and alcohol counselor and she did that until she died.

950
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: And she died in her sixties from lung cancer. And

951
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: I just think, like, what an amazing example for me

952
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: to grow up around. You know, That's why I don't

953
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: do drugs like I could have. Like when I'm on

954
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: skid row, I'm like, oh yeah, I very easily could

955
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: have wound up here, you know. And I think that

956
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: having a grandmother like her to basically do the DARE program.

957
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: Every time I would go over to her class, she

958
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: had like those remember the posters that were like a

959
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: R e yes, and she would like fry the egg

960
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: and be like this is your brain on crack. And

961
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm not going to do crack. Grandma like,

962
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: but you know, her dying wish was that I would

963
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: never do drugs or smoke. And I swear to God,

964
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, we're talking about Christy and Luke and everybody

965
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: being spiritually around us. My Grandma Jackie is like sitting

966
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: right here and she would throw a lightning bolt down

967
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: from heaven if I did drugs. So I'm scared. I'm

968
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 2: too scared to do drugs.

969
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: Good.

970
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 2: I'm fine with other people doing it, but I'm scared

971
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: because Grandma Jackie will still.

972
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: Come for me. He'll strike you down.

973
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: Yes. But the Glama Project, Yes, it's such an amazing nonprofit.

974
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: And I think what I would say about the Glama

975
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: Project is like again it being a mutually beneficial relationship

976
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: of we're helping them feel confident, they're also being Grandma's

977
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: to us that you know, many people lose their grandparents

978
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: very young and never know them, and so we have

979
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: these like bonus grandmas all around us.

980
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: It's very cool, so cool. Yeah, I want to tell

981
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: everybody about how your makeup is designed with immune compromise people.

982
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, mind, yeah, Oh my gosh. It's so important to us.

983
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: From the very beginning, I remember, because we wanted to

984
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 2: give our products to cancer patients. I was calling on

985
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: cologists and I was calling different cancer hospitals specific and

986
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: they were saying, we don't want women who are going

987
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: through cancer to wear makeup. And I said, respectfully.

988
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: That's bullshit, yeah, and not your choice.

989
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I said, you know, this is like

990
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: we need to give women an option, Like, yeah, they

991
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: should have an option. And so we worked really hard

992
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: to develop formulas and we still do that are that

993
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: are clean, which means that clean is kind of a

994
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: buzz term in the industry, but clean is really about

995
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: the thousands of thousands of ingredients we will never use,

996
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: and we have a list that we're always building upon

997
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: as we learn more from oncologists or from different scientists.

998
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: We have incredible chemists on our team who are always

999
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: looking at how we can become more clean and really

1000
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: create products that are safe for people who are immune compromised.

1001
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: So so good. Yeah, I mean, even if you gave

1002
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: me that list that you work off of of no,

1003
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: don't use these products or these ingredients, I would till

1004
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: feel overwhelmed and then therefore not do anything about it

1005
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: in my own like cupboards, you know what I mean.

1006
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: So it's so good to know that when you buy

1007
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: certain brands, you know you're buying clean and it's it

1008
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: just it changes everything about your decision making because wouldn't

1009
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: we all rather use clean ingredients on our skin, in

1010
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: our mouths and our dummies. You know, these things are

1011
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: so important in this day and age, especially with the

1012
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: amount of chemicals that are being used, and just like

1013
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, people are like, yeah, I know, but this's

1014
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: my favorite lotion or whatever. So it's so good to

1015
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: have options for people that are looking for that.

1016
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there are so many great brands that are

1017
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: doing clean beauty in amazing ways that I find incredibly

1018
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: inspiring and for us, like, it's just so amazing that

1019
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: we have access to so many great doctors through our

1020
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: cause you know, like those people, you know, I think

1021
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: about my friend doctor Elizabeth Coleman, who's a world renowned

1022
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: oncologist who is saving lives, preventing disease, helping cure disease.

1023
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: She's an amazing person. And being able to talk to

1024
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: her and workshop different ingredients and you know, also work with.

1025
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: Different amazing that you work with her.

1026
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: Oh do you know her or do you know of her?

1027
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: She's a foundation.

1028
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: Oh my, doctor Elizabeth Coleman is incredible. Yeah, she's at NYU.

1029
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: Now she's you should. She wrote this book called All

1030
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: in Her Head, which is all about the female anatomy

1031
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: and really teaching women and empowering women to know their anatomy. Like,

1032
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but until I froze my eggs,

1033
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: I didn't know where my ovaries were. I was just

1034
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: talking about this with my friend the other day.

1035
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: They didn't. They don't really, I mean cover that, and

1036
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: if they do cover that in school, nobody's listening.

1037
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean all respect to the Standward school system.

1038
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: My dad worked in it, but I don't remember them

1039
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: teaching me totally, Like we're so embarrassed. Yeah, totally. I know. Everybody.

1040
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: You're like ten years old and you're sitting next to

1041
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: the boy you have a crush on and they're like,

1042
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: let's talk about sex. It's like, oh my.

1043
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: Gosh, yeah, I'm so glad you learned where your ovaries are. Though.

1044
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: Who inspires you?

1045
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: You inspire me? Oh, I think you are so incredible

1046
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: what you've built here and how you've used Oh gosh, oh,

1047
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just you are such an inspiration to

1048
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: so many women. And when I told people I was

1049
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: going on your show, they were like, oh my gosh,

1050
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: Jenny Garth is amazing. What you've done with your career

1051
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: and how you've really used it to impact people is amazing.

1052
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: You inspire me.

1053
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1054
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: I'm glad. Yeah, yeah, I mean it, And I love

1055
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: knowing you now better too, Like it's one thing to

1056
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: read about a person, but to feel your spirit and

1057
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 2: how warm you are, it's how I want to live

1058
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: my life. And when I think about other people who

1059
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: inspire me, I think so much about the people that

1060
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 2: we get to serve and oftentimes we name products after them.

1061
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: So I think about Raquel, who is herself is a

1062
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: breast cancer survivor and she went on to go work

1063
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 2: at self esteem rising and help empower so many women.

1064
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: If that was the nonprofit. I was talking about five

1065
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: years old to one hundred years old and teaching these

1066
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: self esteem classes, and then she went on to go

1067
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: create her own nonprofit, and so like, that's an example

1068
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: of a woman who has experienced something that's really scary

1069
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: and that we hope never happens to people that we

1070
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: you know, anybody in the world, but inevitably, unfortunately, cancer

1071
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: is way too close to too many of us. And

1072
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: so I'm inspired by people like that who take their

1073
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: pain and they put it into purpose. And so Raquel

1074
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: is always at the top of the list. I think

1075
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: of my friend Nolly. I think of our amazing employees

1076
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: as well, you know, just watching them overcome their challenges

1077
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: and still coming up with really creative solutions like building

1078
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: a business and being a part of a business is

1079
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: never easy, and so I think being a part of

1080
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: a team is really inspirational to say, Okay, well we're

1081
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: in this together. We have three values that our company,

1082
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 2: and one of them is one team, one score, and

1083
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Speaker 2: it's that idea of togetherness and that we really are

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Speaker 2: here to serve the collective and that it's not about

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Speaker 2: me as an individual or you as an individual. It's

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Speaker 2: really about coming together and supporting one another because we're

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Speaker 2: supporting something that collectively is bigger than all of us,

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Speaker 2: which is our cause. So I'm inspired by a lot

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Speaker 2: of people.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could go on for hours.

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Speaker 1: I mean no, that's just good to keep your eyes

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Speaker 1: open because the inspiring people are everywhere you look.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true, very true.

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Speaker 1: Okay, CHRISA. Bodner, I have a question for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what was your last I choose me moment?

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Speaker 2: I love this question because for me, I have to

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Speaker 2: choose myself every day, and I think that it's like

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Speaker 2: choosing to to wake up and walk on the treadmill

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Speaker 2: instead of you know, sitting and doom scrolling for an

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Speaker 2: hour and then feeling depressed. You know, I think I

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Speaker 2: used to believe that there was this moment where we

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Speaker 2: would arrive, meaning that we don't feel depressing thoughts, that

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Speaker 2: we don't feel anxious. And I feel like choosing myself

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Speaker 2: is a daily practice that I come back to and

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Speaker 2: that sometimes I go on a three week streak where

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling awesome and I overcome a challenge, and then

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Speaker 2: there are times where I'm really struggling. You know, every

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Speaker 2: single day and every hour of every single day and

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Speaker 2: saying I don't want to do this, you know, but

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Speaker 2: I think being able to come back to the basics

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Speaker 2: of like, okay, mood follows action. So I'm going to

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Speaker 2: go for a walk. I'm going to go for a

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Speaker 2: five minute walk without my phone, even though I don't

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Speaker 2: want to. All I want to do is be addicted

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Speaker 2: to my phone and sit here and be pissed off

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Speaker 2: about my life. But I'm actually gonna get up and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go for a walk, and inevitably I

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Speaker 2: feel better after five minutes.

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Speaker 3: So those little choices, yeah, yeah, And once you start

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Speaker 3: thinking and asking yourself, how do I choose myself, you'll

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Speaker 3: start to notice all the little things that you do

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Speaker 3: and then you'll be like, hey, I just had and

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Speaker 3: I choose me moment.

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Speaker 1: I feel good about that.

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Speaker 2: I love that I choose me movement that you have created,

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Speaker 2: and it's such a great reminder to be like, how

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Speaker 2: are you choosing yourself today? This is every day we

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Speaker 2: have to we have to. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed our talk and I've enjoyed getting to

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Speaker 1: know you. Oh, thank you, Joe, And I just have

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Speaker 1: all the hopes for massive success and happiness in your life.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, Jenny. This was so fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you