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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm Chandler Room, joined by Tyler Stafford and a very

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Speaker 1: special guest, a long suffering fan of the New York Giants,

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Speaker 1: an international traveler, and perhaps the most renowned broadcaster to

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Speaker 1: graduate from Syracuse University. Asher's play by play man Robert Ford. Robert,

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Speaker 1: a belated Happy Thanksgiving to you.

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Speaker 2: How are you happy Thanksgiving? And considering the Giants have

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Speaker 2: won four Super Bowls and been the five in my lifetime,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm really suffering all that.

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Speaker 1: Much, long suffering Styracuse football fan. How about that.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a little more accurate. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on, Robert. Well, we'll hit on a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff today because we're in that weird kind

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Speaker 1: of dead period right now with the off season, because

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Speaker 1: the Winter meetings are coming up, so everyone's kind of

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Speaker 1: readying themselves for that. But the holidays just happened. And

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Speaker 1: unless you're the Toronto Blue Jays and you don't celebrate

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and you got a bunch of gate revenue from

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Speaker 1: the World Series, you don't do many moves around Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Aside from the Toronto Blue Jays, who have agreed to

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Speaker 1: give Dylan Cees two hundred and ten million dollars across

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Speaker 1: seven seasons. Tyler, that was a funny little Uh. It

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Speaker 1: was a funny little week when it was being talked

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Speaker 1: about that the Astros were going to be really in

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Speaker 1: on Dylan Cease and that the Astros were going to

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Speaker 1: make a real run at Dylan Ceese as a starting

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Speaker 1: pitching target.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I have been around Astros Twitter

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Speaker 3: long enough that I just follow the smart people, and

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Speaker 3: I literally I didn't even know that any Astros fans

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Speaker 3: thought that that was a possibility, because I would not

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Speaker 3: have guessed that at all. So when the signing came

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Speaker 3: out and everybody was all upset, I was like, what

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Speaker 3: do you guys, how when did you think the Astros

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Speaker 3: are going to give Dylan Cease all of this money? So,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, we're people in your mentions think that

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Speaker 3: that was imminent.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tie a bunch of thoughts together

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Speaker 1: here because there was one piece of news that I

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Speaker 1: think we can talk about that maybe relates to this.

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Speaker 1: I think it's well known that the Ashers tried very

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Speaker 1: hard to acquire Dylan Ce's at the trade deadline to

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Speaker 1: the point where there was a deal. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say it was on the one yard line, but

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Speaker 1: it was maybe around the fifteen of the ten yard line,

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Speaker 1: and they were going in the score and then they

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Speaker 1: acted like the Aggies and it just didn't They did

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Speaker 1: not get into the end zone. Now, usually when you

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Speaker 1: have interest in someone at the trade deadline, that interest

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Speaker 1: does not wane. You're still interested in the player. But

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Speaker 1: I think anyone that has followed the Ashers for a

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Speaker 1: substantial length of time understands that they do not that

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Speaker 1: they don't do long term deals. They don't do anything.

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Speaker 1: Jim Crane has been very reluctant to go over six

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Speaker 1: years to any free agent. He's never guaranteed a pitcher

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Speaker 1: more than ninety five million dollars in a free agent contract.

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Speaker 1: He's never guaranteed a starting pitcher more than eighty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars in any contract period. But the one thing

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Speaker 1: that gave Ashers fans a little bit of hope, I

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Speaker 1: think was earlier in that day, before it had come

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Speaker 1: out that the at the Blue Jays had come to

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Speaker 1: terms with Dylan Cees, the Ashers announced the rest of

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Speaker 1: their major league coaching staff and to replace Bill Murphy,

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Speaker 1: the assistant pitching coach who left for the Pirates, the

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Speaker 1: Ashers hired a guy nmed Ethan Katz. And Ethan Katz

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Speaker 1: was the pitching coach for the Chicago White Sox for

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Speaker 1: the last four seasons. He is very very well regarded

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Speaker 1: within the league. You know, the White Sox have not

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Speaker 1: five years for a lot of different reasons. Uh, Tony

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Speaker 1: LaRussa and Pedro grifall for very different reasons, did not

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Speaker 1: do well there. But the one thing that they have done,

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Speaker 1: even with those two guys, is they pitched it very well.

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Speaker 1: And Ethan Katz formed a rapport with Dylan Ceese while

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Speaker 1: he was with the White Sox. Dylan Cee's finished runner

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Speaker 1: Ethan Katz was mentoring him with coaching him. They have

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Speaker 1: I think it would have certainly been a feather in

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Speaker 1: to happen. Robert, bring you in here. You have contacts

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Speaker 1: is and I don't want to make a ton out

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a really good hire for the Astros,

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Speaker 1: especially to pair him with Josh Miller, a guy that

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Speaker 1: no was really what he's doing, and Ethan Katz is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious as to how it all kind of

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Speaker 2: would think, like you said, Ethan Kat's very highly regarded.

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Speaker 2: You would think that he was a candidate or you know,

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Speaker 2: he is coming to the Astros. Now, there's always a

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Speaker 2: lot about that stuff that we don't always know in

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Speaker 2: terms of how much interest he has or other teams

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Speaker 2: having him, But considering what he did with the White

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Speaker 2: conversations with somebody with Ethan Katz with one team or

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Speaker 2: I think it's interest that he wound up as an

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Speaker 2: that he and Josh Miller obviously had conversations, and I

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Speaker 2: So obviously they feel like this is something that's going

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously Josh and Ethan both feel like they

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Speaker 2: think it's important to have kind of a pecking order

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Speaker 2: there's a clear pecking order, and maybe it's just a

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Speaker 2: springboard forre Ethan Cats for a short period of time

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Speaker 2: somewhere else, but he can still have an impact even

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Speaker 2: if it's just a season or two seasons with the Astros.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm really curious to get to know Ethan.

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Speaker 2: I've never I've never spoken with him, I've never had

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Speaker 2: I'm really I like, you know, when I saw the

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Speaker 2: elated to see that. So I'm really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: He yeah, I can tell you this that Josh Miller

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Speaker 1: interesting point, Robert. But I also wonder too, just how

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Speaker 1: a situation where Ethan Katz probably you know, he did

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Speaker 1: in terms of pitching, in terms of pitching development, in

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Ethan casts is just intrigued to just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that crossed my mind too, because yeah, I would

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Speaker 2: think and then we hear it, and I know you

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Speaker 2: know this two Chandler. When pitchers signed with the Astros

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see what the Astros can teach

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Speaker 2: I mean I think you could put potentially apply the

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Speaker 1: And the other. The thing that made Ethan Katz, maybe

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Speaker 1: He was a high school pitching coach when he began

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Speaker 1: this entire odyssey he is on his high school team

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Speaker 1: Lucas Gilido profiles as the type of arm, the type

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Speaker 1: fifty to seventy million around total value. Again, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, it's going to come out of money.

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Speaker 1: It's going to come down to who offers him the money,

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Speaker 1: who offers him the most years, who offers him the

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Speaker 1: best contract. But Tyler, I think having Ethan Katz in

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Speaker 1: like Lucas Giolito now becomes like an actually like an

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Speaker 1: intriguing and realistic target for the Astros.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, as we've talked about ad nauseum here

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Speaker 3: that the Astros need an adult who can get five innings,

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Speaker 3: you know, every fifth day, and Lucas Giolito has done

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Speaker 3: first thought this is off topic, but Lucas Giolito is

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Speaker 1: You another fun thing about Lucas Giolino. If the Ashers

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Speaker 3: How did that feel? What's going through your head when

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Speaker 2: With your dad.

434
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: Can you can you give one Beastie Boys story from

435
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: hanging out with him at Deaf Jam.

436
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: I wish I had more because so like, during the

437
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: time that my dad worked for Russell Simmons at Deaf Jam,

438
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: and there are offices at the time were in Soho

439
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: which now you think, if you know anything about New

440
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: York City, about Manhattan, and then he was like, wow,

441
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: that'd be pretty cool. It's really true. No, this was

442
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: well before Soho was gentrified. I mean they were. There

443
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: were crackheads across the street from Jeff Jam's offices. You know,

444
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: we're talking, you know, mid to late nineteen eighties. And

445
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: I was in you know, second third grade. So my

446
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: dad picked up from school. We take the subway down,

447
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, in the Bronx, We take the subway down

448
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: to Soho and Manhattan and you know, and I would

449
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: sit in his office and do my homework. Well, people

450
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: were coming into his office and I really didn't pay

451
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: much attention at that time. I was not really into

452
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: music that much. But yeah, the Bastie Boys, Ello, Cool

453
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: Jay Run DMC all came into his office. I do

454
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: remember having an interaction with Daryl McDaniel from Run DMC.

455
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: One thing I can't tell you about the BacT Boys.

456
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: My dad loved those guys, and not just because of

457
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 2: their music, but they were my dad said they were

458
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: the most polite guys. They were gentlemen. They called him

459
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: mister Ford. My dad ate that stuff up, which is

460
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: funny to think about. If you know anything about the

461
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: Beastie Boys, and you know, they kind of have this

462
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: irreverent party image, especially back then because they were only

463
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: on def Jam for their first album, License to Ill.

464
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: But but yeah, to to know what we know about

465
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: the Beastie Boys, and they hear my dad describe them

466
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: as just perfect gentlemen and really nice guys and uh,

467
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 2: you know, just real real mensches as as they would

468
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: as we would say in New York, you know, the

469
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: the Yiddish word for just just good people. Uh, you know,

470
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: it's it's funny.

471
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 6: To kind of hear that, but yeah, my dad, uh,

472
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 6: my dad.

473
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: Really liked those guys and and thought they were just

474
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: just really good people in addition to to good musicians.

475
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: Did he have sampling stuff set up in the in

476
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: the home? Like was he was he pulling out you know,

477
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: drum break records and sampling stuff? What what were you

478
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: doing at home watching him do all that?

479
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: No? I mean my dad, I mean work was work

480
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: for him. Like he wasn't Like my dad wasn't a musician.

481
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean he you know, he was a record producer

482
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: and he you know, he was a songwriter, but he

483
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: was never a musician himself. So my exposure to all

484
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: that stuff was when he would take me, you know,

485
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: when he was working at def JAM or when he

486
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 2: had to go into recording studios. That was really my

487
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: exposure to just kind of that side of my dad's

488
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: life and of his you know, what he did for

489
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: a living. And I mean I spent a lot of

490
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: time in the recording studio and you know, being in Texas.

491
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure people may remember there was an R and

492
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: B group in the early nineties called High Five, and

493
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: they were based mostly out of Waco, Texas. Most of

494
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: the members are from Waco, Texas, including their lead singer

495
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: Tony Thompson. And I got to know those guys because

496
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: they were always in the studio. They were just a

497
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: little a little older than me. I was like a

498
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: preteen at this point, and my dad, I was like

499
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: ninety one ninety two, spent a good chunk of the

500
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: year traveling to Waco, Texas quite a bit because they

501
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: would record stuff down there. I never went with him

502
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: to Texas. I hadn't been to Texas at that point

503
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: in my life. But what I learned from my dad

504
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: about Texas boiled down to three things. And if my

505
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: dad were alive, he would tell you these three things

506
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: right now. They love high school football, they love Waterburger,

507
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: and everybody's packing. That's what I knew about Texas. My

508
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: father based on his time in Waco in the in

509
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: the early nineties.

510
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: And he nailed it. He was a scout. He got

511
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: it exactly right. Way to go, Dad.

512
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: He even went to a six man football game. Oh yeah, Waco,

513
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: Well he was. That's how I had no idea six

514
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: I had no idea that was a thing.

515
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: Those rural schools are out, I mean they're still doing it.

516
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: I'm in education sales, and so I visit a ton

517
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: of very rural school districts, you know, one hundred and

518
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 3: thirty kids K twelve and yeah, man, they're playing six

519
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: seven man football out there, just getting after it.

520
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: You good, Tyler, I have more I did.

521
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

522
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: So it's November thirtieth as we record. Have you heard

523
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: Curtis blows Christmas wrapping yet? Or is that going to

524
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: hit like later this week? When when does that hit

525
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: the playlist for you?

526
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I'm sure I'll hear it soon.

527
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: I have not heard it yet, but I mean, you know,

528
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: it's it's different now because when I'm in the car.

529
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm mostly listening to Spotify, but I I mean, I'm

530
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: sure at some point, whether I put it in a

531
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: playlist or I happen to have a playlist on that

532
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: has it, Yeah, it's only a matter of time. Uh yeah,

533
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm. I always look forward to that

534
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: day and you know, yeah, that'll that'll be good. And

535
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, with my dad having passed, you know, more

536
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: than five years ago, I do get some of his

537
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: royalties now, so I'm looking forward to that part. Uh

538
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: as well, when when I get to cash in on

539
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: on my dad's songwriting genius.

540
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: That's that's not bad right there.

541
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: You're one of you're one of the few people that

542
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: looks forward to Christmas music beginning to play.

543
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: Not All Christmas, Not All Christmas, Rapping Christmas and Hollis

544
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: by Run DMC, the Bruce Springsteen in the East Street

545
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: Band's version of Santa Claus Is Coming to Town and

546
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: but Riot Carry. All I want for Christmas is you.

547
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: If I only hear those songs during the holiday season,

548
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm good. Everything else I can I can take her leave.

549
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: I like Chance the Rappers Christmas mixtape. If you haven't

550
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: heard that I don't even know if it's on Spotify.

551
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: I might just be on SoundCloud. But that's a good

552
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: one if you're if you're looking for you Christmas suggestions.

553
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 3: I like that one.

554
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: I want it marked that. This is the one hundred

555
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: and twenty eighth episode of this Baseball podcast, and that

556
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: was the first time that Bruce Springsteen the East Street Band.

557
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: That's what I've been mentioned.

558
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: You might you might get kicked out of the Baseball writers.

559
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: I might, honestly I might. We made it one hundred

560
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: and twenty seven episodes without talking about Bruce Springston in

561
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: the e Street which I like Bruce Springsteen. I'm not

562
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fall over myself to talk about him.

563
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: But he's fine. He's he did well for him. I

564
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: need to go see the Jeremy Alan White movie.

565
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you seen it?

566
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 5: I have not.

567
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: I've heard good things I do. I do need to

568
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: see it.

569
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I missed in theater. I'm in theaters quite a bit,

570
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: but I missed.

571
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: I missed that one.

572
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to see Wicked tonight after this, so I'll

573
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: let you know.

574
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: By the way. Quick music story. So I was in

575
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: Australia and New Zealand for a couple of weeks. I

576
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: got back about a week ago Australia. I was in Sydney.

577
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: They have the Sydney Harbor Bridge. You can do like

578
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: they call it a bridge climb. You get to walk

579
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: to the top of the bridge, great view, Sydney Harbor

580
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: Opera House. All that really cool. And they have pictures

581
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: of all these celebrities who have done the Sydney Bridge climb,

582
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: everybody from Oprah Winfrey to Will Smith to Peyton Manning.

583
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a who's who. So anyway, the

584
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: guy who was leading our tour, he said that just

585
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: last week, lead singer from Metallica, James Hetfield, had been

586
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: on his tour. But he had no idea. He's like,

587
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 2: I don't listen to Metally. I had no idea who

588
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: this guy was. So he said he's on the they're

589
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: doing the tour and he had talked to him's, hey,

590
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: what do you do. He's like, oh, I work in music.

591
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 6: I'm in the band.

592
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: He's like, oh that's cool. And you didn't think anything

593
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: of it. And he said at the end of the

594
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: tour he says to him, hey, by the way, good

595
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: luck with your with your music career. Man, good luck

596
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: with your band, and he said the guy looked at

597
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: him like he was nuts. And then somebody came. He

598
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you know who that is, right, that's

599
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: like the lead singer from Metallica.

600
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you pull up your Wikipedia page to show

601
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: that you were a celebrities and you can get on

602
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: the bridge?

603
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: No, although I did so. Anybody who follows me on

604
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: Instagram may know that I posted after I did that

605
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: Sydney Harbor bridge climb, and it's so on my Instagram.

606
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: So they do this thing when you get up there,

607
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: they take all these pics because they don't let you

608
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: bring your cell phone up there for obvious reasons because

609
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: you might drop it into the Sydney Harbor or something

610
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: or are down on the traffic on the bridge. But

611
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: they but the guides all have cameras and they take

612
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: pictures and everything and videos.

613
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 6: And so near the end of once you.

614
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: Get to the summit, you're up there for a while

615
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 2: taking pictures, and hear the end of that, they're like, hey,

616
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: if you want to record a video, let us know,

617
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: and you know, we'll record a video. So I did

618
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: a video of me saying see you later, from the

619
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: top of the Sydney Harbor Bridge and.

620
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 6: So, you know, so it's my turn to do the video.

621
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: And he's got his camera and he's like, I'll culle you,

622
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: I'll let you go and so I do see you later,

623
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: and he just kind of looked at me. He's like,

624
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: all right, like what the heck was that? And I

625
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: feel like trying to explain it. It was I think

626
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: I just said. I said it trusts me. It makes

627
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: sense to some people that I know. That's all I said.

628
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: Remind me, what was what was the game that you

629
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: called from the stands that was kind of your demo reel,

630
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: didn't you didn't you go to a playoff game or

631
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: something and record yourself in the same playoff games.

632
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: It was Mets and Yankees games from the stands of

633
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Yankee Seam and Chase Stadium. But yeah, Yankees Red Sox game,

634
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: which might as well have been a playoff game and

635
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: will be in two thousand and one. Okay, So you

636
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: were there.

637
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: You were there for five hours and twenty minutes two

638
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: thousand and one Yankees Red Sox.

639
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was great game. Many Ramirez at

640
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: a game time home run off a Mario Rivera in

641
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: the ninth, and then Yankees wanted on a Luis Soho

642
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: walk off hit in the bottom of the ninth off

643
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: Rod Beck, who was the Red Sox closer at the time.

644
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: Forgotten it was with the Red Sox. So did you

645
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: say see you later in that one? How long did

646
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: it take for that to become your go to call?

647
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I did not in terms of

648
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: when I started saying it. You're not You're far from

649
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: the first person to ask me that, And I'm not

650
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: really sure. I think I said it when I was

651
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: in Binghamton, which was my last minor league stop. I've

652
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: recently found out that I did say it on the

653
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: first ever Astros home run I ever called in the

654
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: regular season, which was Opening Day twenty thirteen. Rick Ankiel

655
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: hit a pinch hit home run against the Texas Rangers.

656
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: And I only know that because I happen.

657
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: To be able to find a video clip of that

658
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: highlights of that game, and it had my home run

659
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: call on it. But yeah, I don't know exactly when

660
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: I started saying it. I do know that within my

661
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: first two or three years with the Astros, I realized

662
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: I kind of like the way it sounded, and so

663
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: I just started saying it more. But in terms of

664
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: when I started saying it, I am not one hundred

665
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: percent sure.

666
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: I think the interesting thing with with your and because

667
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: I try as much as i can to listen to

668
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: the broadcast while I'm in the stadium, because but what

669
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: makes it hard for me is sometimes iHeart or I'm

670
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: not trying to blame my heart, but sometimes you guys

671
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: will be like three pitches behind the live action, right,

672
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: so very disorienting to have, like you calling a ball

673
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: when it's one and two and they just punch somebody out.

674
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: But on no doubters. Obviously you can set up see

675
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: you later pretty easily, right, Like off the bat, if

676
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: you know the ball is gone, it's easy. How do

677
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: you navigate the wall scrapers? How do you navigate the

678
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: ones where you know it's three sixty to left field

679
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: and it's a three hundred and sixty two foot shot

680
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: that the left fielder is going to jump up and

681
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: try to catch. How do you measure those? And how

682
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: do you maybe how do you do you have see

683
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: you later in the back of your mind as like

684
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: the ball's going, Like how does that work? With the ones?

685
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: That you don't know off the bat are going to

686
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: be out.

687
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: So I've always felt like my philosophy when it comes

688
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: to calling games is to react to what you see,

689
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: because I feel like that's where you get the best calls,

690
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: that is, and I think for me personally, I think

691
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: that is when I sound the best. There are some

692
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: broadcasters who may not so much script but probably are

693
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: a little more intentional about how they set things up

694
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: than I am. But I think over the years, I've

695
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: learned that I'm best when I'm more spontaneous and I'm

696
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: just reacting to what I see. So yeah, unlike the wallscrapers,

697
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm ever thinking see you later

698
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: or kiss it goodbye or anything like that. I'm just

699
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: reacting to the home run. So if it's a wall scraper,

700
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: I'm calling it like a wallscraper because I want to

701
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: convey to the listener obviously what the ball looks like,

702
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: and you know, the outfielder going back to the fence

703
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: and maybe jumping at the fence because he thinks he

704
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: has a shot to catch it, or you know, getting

705
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: back to the fence and then you know, looking up

706
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: and realizing that it's you know it's it's it's long

707
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: gone or whatever. So yeah, that's why, Like I'm sure

708
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 2: anybody who's listened to me enough notices that. Yeah, Generally,

709
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: when I say see you later or kiss it goodbye,

710
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: it's usually on a no doubter or on one that

711
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: I have a little bit of time to kind of

712
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: set up. But if it's one that just barely clears

713
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: the fence and one that I'm not sure is going

714
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: to go out until I see it land in the stands,

715
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: those I'm generally just just reacting to it, so you

716
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: know it's something you know it's gone or whatever, just

717
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: something shorter and not maybe not as punchy, because but

718
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: I do like that about the way I call games

719
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: because I think it conveys the nature of because not

720
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: every home runs the same, so I don't think you

721
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: should call every home run the exact same.

722
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,040
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Speaker 1: They say.

746
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Speaker 2: You know.

747
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: The saying goes that you know opposites attract, right, that

748
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: you know, the two opposite opposite to track. That's kind

749
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: of what is commonly known. And when I listen to

750
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: you and Steve Robert, I think that comes out like

751
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: I see it more there than really anywhere. You are

752
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: a trained broadcaster that went to one of the finest

753
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: journalism schools in the country. Everyone that went there will

754
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: let you know that Syracuses want is in the country

755
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: one of the finest broadcast schools in the country. Steve

756
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: Sparks went to one of the finest universities in Texas

757
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: where or he mastered the art of the knuckleball. But

758
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: is not is not at all a train broadcaster, but

759
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: has certainly has certainly picked it up and is very

760
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: very good if you listen to you guys. But I

761
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: always find it interesting when I listen to you guys

762
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: about how two guys that go at the job in

763
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: a very different way and in a very different way

764
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: of calling games. You know, Robert, I've sat in the

765
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: booth with you guys in spring training at times and

766
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: when you guys have done innings, and like you're a

767
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: guy that is every pitch, you are on every pitch,

768
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: and Sparky will sometimes be telling a story and he'll

769
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: miss a pitch and he can come back and get

770
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: it in the next sentence and set it up and

771
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: be fine. You guys have been together since twenty thirteen, right,

772
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: is that correct? How has you guys' relationship evolved on

773
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: air as a guy. As two people that got to

774
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: where you are in very different routes, that go about

775
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: the job very differently, but at the end of the

776
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: day produce a very very good broadcast that is easy

777
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: to listen to, it's easy to follow, and that has

778
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: a lot more than just the score of the game

779
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: and what's going on.

780
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, And that's a good question. I think

781
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: you're right in that. Yes, Steve and I are opposites

782
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, like you mentioned, are very

783
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: different backgrounds just to how we even got to where

784
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: we got. But I think we're also similar and think

785
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: about things in similar ways. Were in certain important things

786
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: in similar ways. So I think, for one, we're both

787
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: just genuinely we're both just huge baseball fans. And you know,

788
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: I tell people this all the time, and I know

789
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: you know this, Chandler, having covered baseball for a while.

790
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of fans might be

791
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: surprised that a lot of Major League baseball players aren't

792
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: necessarily baseball fans. Like if they weren't playing major League baseball,

793
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: they may not be paying attention to.

794
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 6: It, right, And that's no knock on them.

795
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: I mean that's just the way it is, and it

796
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you can't be a good ballplayer or any

797
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: of that stuff. But Steve Sparks would be locked in

798
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: on Major League Baseball and on every major League season

799
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: even if he had never thrown a pitch professionally. He

800
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: is a lifelong baseball fan. He grew up, you know,

801
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: watching games, listening to games, loving baseball. Ironically, also grew

802
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: up a Mets fan like I did, even though he

803
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Tom Seaver was his

804
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: favorite player. But so I think, you know, we're both

805
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: big baseball fans, and I think we're also both just

806
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: genuinely curious about the game and want to learn as

807
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: much as.

808
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 6: We can about the game.

809
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: And I think that was especially helpful in our early

810
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: years when you know, the Astros were starting to really

811
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: get kind of at the forefront of a lot of

812
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: the analytics and the shifting and things like that, because

813
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: you know, neither one of us was closed off to that.

814
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: Both of us were like, we want to know more

815
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: about this. We want to learn why this, why the

816
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: Astros think this is going to work for them, and

817
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: what all the different things are that the astros are

818
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: trying like we were fascinated by that, and I think

819
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: we're just genuinely curious and genuinely fascinated by by everything

820
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: in the game, whether it's analytics or even you know,

821
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: just your your bare bones and you know, your more

822
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: you know, quote unquote old school baseball. So I think

823
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: we're similar in those ways. I think another important way

824
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: we were similar is that neither one of us has

825
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: a huge ego. Neither one of us wants to hog

826
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: the spotlight. We both want to put together the best

827
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: possible broadcast, and we both understand that for that to happen,

828
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: both of us need to shine and that's not going

829
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: to happen if we're both stepping on each other's toes

830
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: and you know, and there's there, you know, there are

831
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: huge egos that like that, but neither one of us

832
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: have those huge egos. So I think that that helps.

833
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: And I think also we're similar in that we take

834
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: what we do seriously, but we don't take ourselves too seriously,

835
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: which goes back to the ego thing too, But I

836
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: think that helps. You know, we can we can laugh

837
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 2: with each other at each other, we can joke around,

838
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: but then when something happened in the game that requires

839
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: play by player analysis. We're right on it. You know,

840
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: we can flip that switch. And I think that's important.

841
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, that our opposites help make the

842
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: broadcast what it is. But I think the ways in

843
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: which Steve and I are similar also helped make the

844
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: broadcast what it is.

845
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: I have a strange question. You've called a lot of

846
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: baseball games in your career. You started with the Astros

847
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen. I famously watched and listened to every

848
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: out of the twenty thirteen Astros season.

849
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: I was a rough one.

850
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: It was rough. I was in college. I was working

851
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: at the Texas A and M student newspaper, so I

852
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: was just there every night. I had nothing else going

853
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: on to two quick things. My roommate Danny and I

854
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: we listened to you quite a bit, and we had

855
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: two running bits in our house that are directly from you.

856
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: So I'm just passing this along to you that you

857
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 3: have been a part of our humor for the better

858
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: part of a decade. And that was when I think

859
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 3: you guys still do this. But you know, Steve will

860
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: read off the lineup and you know, here's who's pitching,

861
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: here's where everybody is, and you kind of come in

862
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 3: and you hit them with the same line every time,

863
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: which is, thank you Steve, and you would say the

864
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 3: same way every time. And we started saying that if

865
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: if either one of us did anything in the house,

866
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: if we picked up something, if we brought over a plate,

867
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: to thank you Steve, we would just say that over

868
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: and over again. And then anytime we left to get

869
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: in the car to leave a door, we'd we would

870
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: shout out the door, see you later. So those were

871
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: just just so you know, that's that's been there. But

872
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: here's here's the question I wanted to ask. You've seen

873
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: a lot of baseball games. Could you give me a

874
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: sixty second pitch of what is the ideal baseball game

875
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: to call like over the course of the game. Is

876
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: it a one nothing pitchers duel? Is it twelve to ten?

877
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: I know that any of those can be fun, But

878
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: if you were going in and you're saying, this is

879
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: my only shot to call a baseball game, what does

880
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: it look like?

881
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: Well, for me personally, pitching has always been my favorite

882
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: part of the game, and for me as a fan

883
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: and as a broadcaster, there is nothing better than a

884
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: true pitchers duel, and those are rare anyway, and they

885
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: become even rarer because starters don't tend to go as

886
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: deep into games, because I mean, in a one nothing

887
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: game in which each team uses five pitchers just isn't

888
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: quite the same. It's still it's still exciting because every pitch,

889
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: you know, the score can change, but it's you know,

890
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: it's not quite the same as when you have like

891
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: you think about that game the Astros had in Arlington

892
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: earlier this year with Hunter Brown against Jacob de Grom,

893
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: like a game like that, Yeah, that was incredible. Those

894
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: are just so much fun because again, pitching is my

895
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: favorite part of the game. Any close game late is

896
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: always fun because you know you don't have to build

897
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: up any drama. You're just basically laying it out there

898
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: and just given context. It's not like a blowout game

899
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: where you know, maybe you're trying to build a little

900
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: bit of drama or something like that, or you know,

901
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: things get off the rails. But yeah, when you have

902
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: a game where both pitchers are on top of their

903
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: game and it's a close game and you know you're

904
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: wondering who's going to get the big hit, who's going

905
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: to who's going to score off of this guy? You

906
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: know that is so much fun for me, And yeah,

907
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 2: for sure that's the most Those are the most fun

908
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 2: games for me. To call it a true pitcher.

909
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: And you do not abide by uh and you can't really,

910
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: you don't abide by the no hitter quote unquote jinks

911
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 1: not you say it. You say it just like if

912
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: just like when I put on social media if they're

913
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: through six, I get destroyed. I'm sure you get some backlash. Well,

914
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: but you can you you have to. You don't like

915
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: t K and Blom will do the thing where they

916
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: don't say it, but it has it on the score

917
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: bug that they're no hitter through seven. But if you

918
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: tune into the game, they are showing you the line

919
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: score after every half inning. If you have half your

920
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: brain working, you can see that the Ashers are throwing

921
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: a no hitter. You don't have that luxury. So how

922
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: I've I've covered seven since I started on the beat

923
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. How many of you?

924
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: How many of them? Because twenty fifteen was my first

925
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: one the Mike fires no hitter. So yeah, there have

926
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: been seven ashes no hitters that I've.

927
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: Called what is there one of those that sticks out?

928
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean for me, it's not. I maybe I'm weird,

929
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: but like the World Series no Hitter for me, like

930
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: maybe because it was a combined one, I didn't I

931
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: don't really like have visceral memories of that one. But

932
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: is there one for you that sticks out just in

933
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, the drama, the build up and

934
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: kind of how you how you delivered it and everything.

935
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: I think the two that stand out the most. And

936
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: it's also kind of crazy to me to be like,

937
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: out of the two of that seven, yeah, really, are

938
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: you kidding me?

939
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: It felt weird for me just to say that the

940
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: no hitter I covered in the World Series, I was like, yeah,

941
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: use four.

942
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: The World Series no Hitter was cool because one it's

943
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 2: the World Series and also it was a day after

944
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: the Astros just got blitzed by the Philly.

945
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, you know in Philadelphia, so that was cool.

946
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, the two that really well, yeah, I'll say

947
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: the two that stand out the most for me. Uh

948
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: And I know some Astros fans like to forget it

949
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: happened and all that, but the Mike Fires no hitter

950
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: will always stand out for me. Because of the first

951
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: one I ever called, and that no hitter was so

952
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: unique in that it wasn't because most no most complete

953
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: game no hitters. You're kind of thinking early on, Wow,

954
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: this guy's got really good stuff. He's really locked in.

955
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 6: That was not true.

956
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: In the mic fires no hitter. He had base runners

957
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: in each of the first three innings. He wound up

958
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: needing one hundred and thirty pitches. So there was all

959
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: this drama late in the game, like, one, is he

960
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: going to get the no hitter? Two? Is he even

961
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: going to be able to? Is he gonna run out

962
00:49:59,280 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: of pitches?

963
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 6: As it turned out, AJ was gonna just leave them

964
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 6: out there, but we.

965
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: Didn't know that. So that that was that was incredible.

966
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: And then and like the energy in the stadium that night,

967
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: I'll never forget because that was twenty fifteen and it

968
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: was right when people were starting to realize, Hey, this

969
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: Astros team's pretty good. And it was also against the Dodgers.

970
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 2: Now they weren't they They weren't the rivals that they became, obviously,

971
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: but I remember it was the first game Chase utterly

972
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: played with the Dodgers, and Dodgers it was right after

973
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: the trade that night, and the Dodgers had traded for

974
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: Chase Ally from the Phillies first game you played in,

975
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: and that was also a big series because it was like, Okay,

976
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: this Astros team has been really good, but now the

977
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 2: Dodgers are coming in town and they do against them.

978
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: And I was the MLB dot Com in term for

979
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: this game. I was, and I was covering the Dodgers clubhouse,

980
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: and I'll know all they talked about was utly before them.

981
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: And I'll also never forget you may you may have

982
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: been getting to this, but they were running out Grinky

983
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: and Kershaw the next two. So the Astros it was

984
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: pretty much like the Astros are kind of up against it,

985
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: like they gotta win this one because I think Brett

986
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: Anderson pitched.

987
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: Gret Anderson started that game.

988
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: Yep, It's like you gotta beat Brett Anderson because you're

989
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: probably ain't beaten Grinky or Kershaw in their primes the

990
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: next two nights. And that that was also something that

991
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: sticks in my head.

992
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that no hitter will always stand out for me,

993
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: because you know, you never forget the first one that

994
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: you called. The other one that really stands out for

995
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: me was justin Ferlanders no hitter in Toronto in twenty

996
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: nineteen for a few reasons. One, the first inning he walked,

997
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: you know, he had a walk of springer and reserves,

998
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: and you know he got through the inning but wasn't

999
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 2: particularly sharp. And I remember Sparks he may have even

1000
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: said this on the air, but I remember we talked

1001
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: about it between innings. The Sparks noticed something with his

1002
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: mechanics is where his arm slot was. And he's like,

1003
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: as soon as this inning ends, he's going to go

1004
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: into the video room because he wants to see where

1005
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: his armslot was, because he wants to be able to

1006
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: fix it. And that's and like I remember, we watched

1007
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: him walk straight from the dugout and the video rooms

1008
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: right behind. With the way it was set up at

1009
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: Roger Center, then video rooms basically right behind where the

1010
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: dugouts were, and like you could see we could see

1011
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 2: from the booth him making a bee line to the tunnel,

1012
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: and like we both knew that's what he was doing,

1013
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: and he said that after the game that's what he

1014
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: was doing. And then he came he fixed it and

1015
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: then he was just unhittable, So that was cool. The

1016
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: other things that.

1017
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 6: Were cool about that no hitter for me were.

1018
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's justin Verlander. I mean, it was already

1019
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: cool to call as many of his starts as I

1020
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: did for the Astros, because you, I mean, this is

1021
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: somebody who when the Astros got him, he was already

1022
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer and he burnished his Hall of

1023
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: Fame resume with the Astro And you could argue that

1024
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: he had some better years with the Astros and maybe

1025
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: even some of his best years with the Tigers. I

1026
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't necessarily say that, but you could make that argument

1027
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: in some instances. But yet to see like one of

1028
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: the best ever throw you know, his third career no hitter, like,

1029
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty cool. And then you throw on

1030
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: this stuff with Abraham. Torrel wasn't supposed to play in

1031
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: the game Juli Guriel last night before got scratched. That's

1032
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: the only reason Torol was in the lineup. He had

1033
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: told his family because he was from Montreal. Yet you

1034
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 2: don't even need to be here for this game because

1035
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna play. So they had all because

1036
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: it was a Sunday day game, so like no, like,

1037
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: he only had a handful of people there after having

1038
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: like thirty people there for each of the first two

1039
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: games of that series, and I believe he played in

1040
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: both of those, so that was cool. And then he

1041
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: hits the home run and you know, gets an assistan

1042
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: on the final out of that no hitter. Just so

1043
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: many aspects of it were really neat for me. The

1044
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: other neat part of it for me was the Astros,

1045
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: So it was a Sunday getaway day. Astros traveled to

1046
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: Milwaukee after that. So the next day, this was back

1047
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 2: when I was still getting a player interview every day,

1048
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: and so I went down to the clubhouse in Milwaukee,

1049
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: to the Astro's clubhouse in Milwaukee, hoping to get Verlander,

1050
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: knowing that it was not likely. Verlander generally wasn't in

1051
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: the clubhouse much when the media was.

1052
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 6: In there, and I figured, day after a no hitter.

1053
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: He probably is really dodging the media, and he wasn't

1054
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: in there the entire hour clubhouse was open. But who

1055
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: was in there was Robinson Schirinos, who caught that no hitter.

1056
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: And Robinson Shirinos is one of the nicest guys on

1057
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: the planet and was a great interview And so I

1058
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 2: went up to Robinson and asked him if I could

1059
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: interview him and talk about the no hitter, And I

1060
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: think I still have that interview somewhere. It was a

1061
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: really great interview. He provided such great context. I remember

1062
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: him talking about a couple of mountain visits because I

1063
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: asked him, Hey, what did you talk about in these mounts?

1064
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: And he like told me, you know, we talked about

1065
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah because this hitter had done

1066
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: this before. So we were like, it was an incredible breakdown.

1067
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: And honestly, and this is no slight on Verlander, it's

1068
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: it was a better interview than I would have gotten

1069
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: with Verlander. So it was almost better that Robinson Shirinos

1070
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 2: was the guy.

1071
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 6: That I talked to the day after that no hitter.

1072
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: You talked about Sparks being a lifelong baseball guy, and

1073
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: that's what makes him a good broadcaster. Is there a

1074
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: name or a handful of names of players that you've

1075
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: covered or gotten to know over the last ten years

1076
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: that you think, oh, that that guy would be a

1077
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: great broadcaster. He's a you know, he speaks really well,

1078
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: he loves the game. You know, would be fun, quick

1079
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: on his feet. Anybody stick out to you.

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. It's not something I think about

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Speaker 2: a ton I think about it more when I see

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00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: guys get into broadcasting after their career, Like when I

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00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: found out Tony Campbell was doing some a's free and posts,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, of course, yeah. Colin mceue was someone

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Speaker 2: that I did think about that, and I may have

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Speaker 2: even mentioned something I know Sparks said. I know Sparks

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00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: said something to him, and I know he did some

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00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: He was doing some pre and post on Braves TV

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Speaker 2: for a little while. But actually Colin was actually in

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Speaker 2: Atlanta when we were there, and he was out before

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Speaker 2: one of the games that we were there this Sea

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Speaker 2: this past season, and he was doing some He kind

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00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: of figured out he wanted to do more player development

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Speaker 2: stuff and be more around players rather than in broadcasting,

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Speaker 2: at least.

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Speaker 6: For the time being. But Colin mque is someone.

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Speaker 2: Who stands out and he's another guy who's a huge

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Speaker 2: baseball fan. I remember having conversations.

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Speaker 6: With him about him growing up in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And listening to you know, Skip Carry and you know

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Speaker 2: those legendary Braves broadcasters Pete Van Weeren, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: on TDS all those years. So he was always.

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Speaker 6: Someone that I thought would be really good.

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Speaker 2: In broadcasting if he ever decided to pursue it.

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Speaker 3: A fellow podcaster Colin Yeah right, m hm, Josh Reddick

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Speaker 3: of Us would be phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Have done some radio with Josh's fantastic. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, he's good. He's good. I think he's great as

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Speaker 1: a color guy on the radio. I think again, this

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Speaker 1: may not be something that astors fans, depending on the

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Speaker 1: time of year one to hear, but Jeff Bagwell is very,

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Speaker 1: very good when you get him in a color analyst role.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing by listening to Baggie on the

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Speaker 1: radio that is his baseball knowledge is just I mean,

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Speaker 1: not duh, he's a Hall of Famer and he's one

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00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: of the best players to ever played, duh, he knows baseball,

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Speaker 1: but like he's telegraphing like stolen bases, like two pitches

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00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: before they happen, Like he's like he's sequencing pitches like

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Speaker 1: it's incredible to listen to him on the radio and

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Speaker 1: the way he can he can do that and you

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00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: maybe don't get that feel on television just because it's

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Speaker 1: a different and I know that's where most people see

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Speaker 1: him do a lot of his work is on television.

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Speaker 1: You don't really get it as much there as you

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Speaker 1: do on radio when you know you're listening and maybe

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Speaker 1: not watching the game. But he is excellent at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I really enjoy working with Baggie.

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Speaker 2: And no, you're right, his not only his knowledge of

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Speaker 2: the game, but his ability to convey it in a

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Speaker 2: simple way to understand it. You know, I you know

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00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: he he is. He is a leade at it, and

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Speaker 2: especially when he talks about base running, and you know

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Speaker 2: he's always had he always had a reputation as a

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Speaker 2: player as being a great base runner. Will be the

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: first one to tell you he's not fast, but he,

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Speaker 2: you know, still thirty thirty guy twice because he just

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: he understood, you know, reading pictures and he was looking

1138
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: for every edge that he could get as a player

1139
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: on the bass path. As a matter of fact, he

1140
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: did a series with me. This was what a couple

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00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: of years ago, maybe against the Guardians and when Terry

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: Francona was still managing Cleveland. So yeah, it must have

1143
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: been three years ago. And I'm in Tito's office because

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00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: a lot of times I'll go down and listen to

1145
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: the other team's manager and he does his Terry Fakunna

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00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: does his in his office. So I was there listening

1147
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: to him, and you know, I know, like we're not buddies,

1148
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: but I know him and he knows who I am whatever,

1149
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: and we were just kind of chatting as his media

1150
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: session was breaking up, and Jeff Bagwell's name came up

1151
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: for some reason, and I mentioned to Tito, I said,

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: you know, he's working this series with me on the radio,

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00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: and he's like, tell him. I said, hello. He doesn't

1154
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: know me very well, but tell him. I said hello,

1155
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: and he goes, he is the best base runner I

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00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: have ever seen. He threw in another word in there,

1157
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: but he's like, he is the best base runner I've

1158
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: ever seen. And make sure you tell him I said that,

1159
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: and I did, But I mean that just kind of

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00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: gives you an idea of just kind of the reputation

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Speaker 2: Jeff Bagwell had as a player, not just in Houston,

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Speaker 2: but even outside of Houston.

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Speaker 1: Well, Robert, we'll get, we'll get certainly some time to

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00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: listen to Baggie, to listen to you, to listen to Steve,

1165
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: listen to everybody. Starting in West Palm Beach in February.

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Speaker 1: But This was fun. I appreciate you taking some time.

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01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: I told you we'd keep you around twenty to thirty minutes,

1168
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: and we just hit the hour marks.

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01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: So this was great.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you indulging us in this wide ranging conversation. We'll

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: have you back at some point, maybe in spring training

1172
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: before maybe before the season gets going. As I said, guys,

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01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: the Winter meetings will ramp up. I leave for the

1174
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: Winter Meetings in seven days on Sunday, so this week

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01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: maybe some action should start percolating a little bit, but

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: certainly next week is when the off season will really

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01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: kick into its highest gear in Orlando, Florida for the

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Speaker 1: Winter Meetings. Until then, you can follow me on X

1179
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: at Chandler Underscore Room. You can follow Tyler at Tyler

1180
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: C Stafford. Robert, you're at r a Ford three.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct? Up? On Twitter, Blue Sky and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Are a Ford three for Robert And as always, guys,

1183
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,120
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1184
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,320
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1185
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,840
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1186
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: notified anytime we post a new episode. Again, Robert, this

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01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: was great. We appreciate you taking some time on a

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01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: Sunday night to uh to indulge us and uh we

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Speaker 1: will talk to you guys soon, see you later, see

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Speaker 1: you later.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's my line.