1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you are listening to the 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: velvets Edge podcast. My guest this week is Holly d Raymie. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Holly is an Intuitive Terror reader, and she's actually been 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: on the Velvet Edge podcast before, back in March, which 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: feels like a lifetime ago at this point. But on 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: the last podcast she read my cards and I learned 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: so much about myself and the energy surrounding what was 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: happening in my life at that point. I wanted to 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: have her back in to talk about the energy of 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: what's happening collectively right now in the universe and in 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: our country, and just what we can put our personal 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: energy and focus into during what seems to be a 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: time of great breakdowns and change. It can all feel 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: very overwhelming to me on many days. So some sort 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: of guidance and positive outlook always helps. Here's our conversation. Okay, 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: so Holly, you've obviously been here before. If you guys 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: have not listened to the podcast I did with Holly. Um, 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. This was last year at some point, right, Um, 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: you're an intuitive terror reader and so you read my 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: cards and we kind of talked through that process. What 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: that looks like, and I was texting with you yesterday 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: because it's just like, what is happening in is just 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: so much. And what's one thing that's really helped me 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: is your Instagram because you'll do like the different card 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: post the card you pulled that day, and you kind 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: of explain how it applies to the universe and what's 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: happening right now. So I wanted to talk to you 28 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: because I just feel like there is so much ship 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: going on, and um, can you just shed any sort 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: of like help us out here? Can you kind of 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: just talk through like what you do and um, things 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: that you've been seeing lately. Yeah. It's so funny because 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: the day we spoke and recorded that podcast was the 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: day after the tornado hit Nashville. Oh my gosh, was 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: it really which was only early March, but it feels 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: like that literally really feels like a year ago. And 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: it was really like since then because COVID hit like 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: what two weeks later, Um, that ship hits the Fan. 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: I can't even believe that was in that I talked 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: to you. I genuinely thought that was last year. Wow. Yeah, 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: and like so much has happened since then that it 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: feels like so long ago. Yeah, and I think you 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: know what I do is UM. You know, I'm a 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Ricky master, I'm a tarot reader, UM, and I also 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: do New Moon ceremonies every month, and so I'm often 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: looking at the collective energy and looking at what's going 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: on in society and the energy of the collective and 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: how that applies to what's happening in astrology, what is 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: happening in the cards that I'm pulling, in the readings 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: that I'm doing, And more and more as you do 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: this work, I think any intuitive will tell you that, UM, 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: there's always is um a theme and a collective theme 53 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: that usually mirrors what's going on in the individual and 54 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: also in the stars. So there's this energy of like 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: as above, so below. And if you read or you 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: even see like a lot of astrologers on Instagram, I 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: used to wonder, like, why are they so political? Why 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: are they always posting about like activism and politics and 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: these things. And after doing this work for so long, 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: I started to realize it's because if you're if you 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: call yourself a healer or a witch or anyone who's 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: like paying attention to energy, then you're going to see 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: these things being reflected on a collective level as well. Oh, 64 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: I see, Okay, so that's the as above so below. 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: We talked about that in the last podcast too. So 66 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: can you give us kind of a collective theme that 67 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: you've been seeing in your readings? Yeah, so, I mean 68 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: it's a lot since I feel that we're in the 69 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: middle of what's called eclipse season, and this generally happens 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: a couple of times a year, and the eclipses are 71 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: usually come in pairs or sets of three. And so 72 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: we just had a solar eclipse in Cancer and they 73 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: always happen on the New Moon, and then in a 74 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: week and a half we're going to have another lunar 75 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: eclipse and this will shore up or finish the eclipse 76 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: season of the summer, and then we'll have another one 77 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: in December and January, and so they generally happen every 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: six months. And what you see during this time, you 79 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: can think of a solar eclipse as um kind of 80 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: like a full moon energy, but even more intense. They 81 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: tend to like shake up, transform, initiate um and really 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: bring out like anything, bring out any kind of shadow 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: or illusion, anything that's like ready to be healed and transformed. 84 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: Will be triggered during an eclipse season. So that okay, 85 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: that this week, right, we had one? Or is it 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: last week? I can't remember. It was on Sunday? Okay, 87 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: So you know how um with the full moon if 88 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: you're I mean, I'm a cancer. So I'm very guided 89 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: by the moon. And anytime there's a full moon, I 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: won't even know a lot of times that that's happening. 91 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: But I can't sleep. It's just like my body cannot sleep. 92 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: And I had that same issue this past week, like, 93 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: and I was kept asking myself, I'm like, this is 94 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: not I kept checking. I thought, this is not a 95 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: full moon, so what is going on with me? But 96 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: can that? Can the eclipse stuff cause that kind of 97 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: stuff as well. Absolutely, I barely sleep on full moons. Um. 98 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: Even in the last forty eight hours of the outer planets, 99 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Neptune moved retrograde, and I've I've had intense dreams and 100 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: trouble sleeping, and Neptune is associated with the dream world 101 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: and fantasy and illusion and sleep. Um. There's also a 102 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: lot of planets retrograde right now, there's five um, so 103 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: there's a lot happening in the stars. And if you're 104 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: energetically sensitive. You may feel it. Now you're a cancer, 105 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: and this whole eclipse season is on the cancer Capricorn axis, 106 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: so this is your So all the cardinal signs if 107 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: you're a cancer, a cap and aries or libra which 108 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm in areas of libor rising, you're a cancer, those 109 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: signs are may feel it more intensely. And what I'll 110 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: say for like the listeners, if they really want to 111 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: see how this could be affecting them personally, what you 112 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: can do is look at your birth chart and look 113 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: at the sign of cancer, see what house it's in, 114 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: and if there's any planets there, And then look at 115 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: the fourth house and see what sinus in and if 116 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: there's any planets there, And that can give you a 117 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: really good depiction of how this eclipse season will actually 118 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: affect you on a personal level, because collective themes will 119 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: come up, but there it also can hit very different 120 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: places in our personal birth charts. So like for me, 121 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: this is like a really straightforward example. So for me, 122 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: my fourth house is in Capricorn, and this and the 123 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: fourth house has to do with like home family, the 124 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: people who you call your family, whether it's blood family 125 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: or your chosen family, your sense of safety or sense 126 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: of structure. So every year, this around this time in June, 127 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: we have this season. Every year around this time, my 128 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: stepsons arrived here in Nashville to live with us for 129 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: the summer. So my sense of family home structure gets 130 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: completely rearranged and disrupted. Um and I well, I mean 131 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: being yeah, yeah, because my fourth house is that's where 132 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: my fourth house is. And so it just happens that 133 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: those two things aligned together, like my stepsons come and 134 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: then my sense of home and safety and security and 135 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: how to how to blend two families together. You know, 136 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: if you are anybody out there listening to stepparents, there's 137 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: like there's you know, Chad, you know, I go from 138 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: having to care for one child to caring for three children, 139 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: and it brings up some inner child boons of my 140 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: own growing up with stepparents, and you know, it's the 141 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: whole thing. And so it can be really really useful 142 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: to see like how this is hitting your chart and 143 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: what lessons do you feel like you're moving through right now. 144 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: So that's really interesting because you said that that happens 145 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: to you every year, So this eclipse season happens every year. 146 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: So what's funny is that the access will change. So 147 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: the Cancer Capricorn access has been going on since and 148 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: that is around the time that I actually moved a 149 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: little before that, but that is around the time that 150 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: we started having them come down here for the summer 151 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: and so and before that it was in a different 152 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, access, and you know, I was living in 153 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: New York and the boys were there too, and we 154 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: had a totally different family structure. So yeah, it will change. 155 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: This um uh is the last of the summer eclipses 156 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: being in Cancer and Capricorn. So actually, this it feels 157 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: really intense, um but it is going to be the 158 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: last set here, so we're really shoring up and and 159 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: kind of stuffing out anything else that needs to be 160 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: addressed in these areas. Interesting. Okay, so you the eclipse 161 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: has happened, and this has been happening for four years, 162 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: I guess now, But why feels so in intense. I mean, 163 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned there's a bunch of retrogrades happening as well, 164 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: which I know we just got out of Venus. Was 165 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,119 Speaker 1: that today even h for Venus much direct? Yeah, yesterday 166 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: okay or today? It may have been right between today 167 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: and day and now Neptune you mentioned, isn't there a 168 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: mercury retrograde? YEA, yeah, Okay, this is awesome. And you know, 169 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: I think it's just And I can't say I'm not 170 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm not by trade an astrologer, um, but I think 171 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: that you know, we are shifting as a planet. We 172 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: are shifting, and shadow work is being done, um, you know, 173 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: and you can read about from different astrologers all kinds 174 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: of things. Some people will say it's because we're entering 175 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: the Age of Aquarius. Other people will say we're like 176 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: upgrading into like a new dimension from three D to 177 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: five D. There's all these theories, um, and I can't say, 178 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: like what's true. I don't think there's any like absolutes 179 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: or any rights or wrongs, um. But I think what's 180 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: being asked of us now is to look at a 181 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: lot of the shadow that's being unearthed within our collective 182 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: and deal with it. And I think it's really interesting 183 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: how we had this pandemic occur and we all had 184 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: to slow down our lives and really just like stop 185 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: doing many of the things that we usually do, and 186 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: everyone got really quiet and really still, and then we had, 187 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, this whole racist movement occur, and I think 188 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: and I wonder if that would have happened if we 189 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: would have listened in the same way, if we hadn't 190 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: had the pandemic, I would have paid attention. Yes, I've 191 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: said that a million times. I mean, because it's not 192 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: like this is the first time we've heard this Black 193 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Lives Matter movement, you know, but all of a sudden, 194 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: it was like we finally heard it. Like it's not 195 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: it's not the first time it was said, I guess. 196 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: And so, um, I've said that exact thing that this 197 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: there was no mistake that it happened the way that 198 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: it happened. Yeah. And actually, if you look at the 199 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: astrology of that, like the last time mercury was retrograde 200 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: in fourteen degrees cancer, which happened just a few days ago. Um, 201 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: it was in that same exact degree the day that 202 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: the Black Lives movement was created. It was the day 203 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: that the police officer who killed Travon Martin was acquitted. Wow. Um, 204 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: And so you know that was back into two thousand 205 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: and thirteen. That was the last time that mercury was 206 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: retrograde in that degree of cancer. And so what we're 207 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: seeing now has happened before, like you said, and now 208 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: these themes are coming back around, and you can see 209 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: some of these transits that are also connected to the 210 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Rodney King riots and that the movements from the late sixties, 211 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: and so I've even seen some tied to the I 212 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: think it was the American Revolution like way back when, 213 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: and it's just all of this same dynamics and they 214 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: haven't happened in the same time since a lot of 215 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: that major change or shift was happening. So I kind 216 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I've been curious what we're going to 217 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: actually come out of this as because it seems like 218 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: the energy is very in the mode of change. Yeah, 219 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: we mentioned the shadow stuff, and I told you I 220 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: wanted to talk a little bit about this because you 221 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: posted about it and I've seen, Um we mentioned the 222 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: Holistic Psychologist, who is a great account to follow, and 223 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: a couple of other people I've seen that I can't 224 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: think of off the top of my head, but they've 225 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: mentioned this shadow and so can you kind of explain 226 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: to us what is the shadow side that UM maybe 227 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: we're being asked to look at right now. So shadow 228 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: work is a term that we use UM in the 229 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: healing world. I see it a lot in the psychology world. UM. 230 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: And it's really just shadow work, is the work of 231 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: looking at the places within ourselves that we hide or 232 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: we shame or we blame. UM. And we do this 233 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: out of a desire to be loved and accepted. UM. 234 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: And it usually happens when we're younger. And you know, 235 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: we're very adaptable as young people, and so we can 236 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: assess a situation and learn and observe and understand quickly 237 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: what behaviors or what characteristics about us will be accepted 238 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: and what won't right and so this could be something 239 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: really simple or something really deep and traumatic. Um and 240 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: and and everybody has a shot of sunch, Like nobody's 241 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: immune from this um and it is simply like the 242 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: places that we hide away from the world, UM, in 243 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: order to feel that acceptance. Oh my gosh, I just 244 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: had this like aha moment because when you now that 245 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: I remember that you read my cards in March. There 246 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: was a lot of codependency stuff coming up in the cards, 247 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: and I was kind of feeling it, but not fully. 248 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: And then UM, lately what's been happening is I've sort 249 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: of integrated into what you're talking about, Like the step 250 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: parents situation with my boyfriend's kids, and it's been awesome, 251 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: but I'm also noticing that I don't know how to 252 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: keep boundaries. Like so I'm over extending myself and doing 253 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: everything for everyone else, you know what I'm saying, All 254 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: of that stuff, I've been bumping up against that so much, 255 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: and it just dawned on me that this is what 256 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to work on right now. Obviously. Yeah, so 257 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: there's some shadow work there and we all have to 258 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: do it. And like, yeah, and if we look at 259 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: what's happening right now in the collective, if you are 260 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: engaged in anti racism work, then you must be engaged 261 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: in shadow work. Because the first step in anti racism 262 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: work is is acknowledging that you're racist, right, and that 263 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: is some like it is cute or fun or easy 264 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: to look at your shadow. You have to be able 265 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: to accept with love and compassion, the fact that you 266 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: have this thing that you feel deeply uncomfortable with and 267 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: that you perceive to be a quote unquote bad or 268 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: wrong thing about you. And like, if if anyone has 269 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: been I'm sure many of the listeners have been looking 270 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: at this and doing this work and they're realizing like wow, 271 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, like there is this part of me and 272 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: it makes me so uncomfortable and I just want to 273 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: And that's why you see black educators saying like, we're 274 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: not going to teach you how to do this, Like 275 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: it's not part of our you know, emotional labor to 276 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: teach you how to not be racist. You have to 277 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: do that on your own. And you know, there's a 278 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: lot of performative activism going on and um, that's not 279 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: shadow work. That's just like posting something or jumping on 280 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: a bandwagon because everybody else is doing it. And like 281 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: the real work is going to take place in quiet 282 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: moments between you and you where you can be vulnerable 283 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: enough to sit with the things that feel bad and scary. 284 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: That is huge because I hear a lot of people saying, 285 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, you just have to do the work, and 286 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what does that even mean? What does 287 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: do the work mean? But I think what your your 288 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: point is so huge, and that a huge step in 289 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: the work is looking at that and like looking in 290 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: the mirror and reflecting back the things that you don't 291 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: want to see and accepting them, because that without doing that, 292 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: you can't actually ever look at change totally. And as 293 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: white women, it's so easy to bypass this work, you know, 294 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: because that's what we've been doing, and and to bypass 295 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: it is our privilege. Um, And we can say like 296 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm too busy, or I don't know how to do it, 297 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: or you know, this doesn't apply to me, or I 298 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: don't see color, and then like then we just become 299 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: a part of the problem. We continue to suppress that shadow, 300 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: and then nothing changes. And that's why if we don't 301 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: work on our shadow, we will continue always to see 302 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: it reflected back to us in our relationships and in 303 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: the collective. So that's a huge point too. It's like 304 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: you can't because that to me, that is the biggest 305 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: energy that I feel right now is as much as 306 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: you want to not look at your ship, there's no choice. 307 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Like literally the world is stopping and we and even 308 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: now like coronavirus, everyone's kind of acting like it's not 309 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: a thing anymore, but like the numbers are rising, so 310 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm just like waiting for it to come back to 311 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: where we have to delay again, you know. And it's 312 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: just like there's no running away right now. It feels 313 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: like the world is saying like, hey, you guys need 314 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: to stop. You need to look at yourselves and as yourself, 315 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: like are you actually the person that you're saying that 316 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: you are, or are you or there things that you 317 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: could look at and change and grow to have more 318 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: empathy for your fellow man, you know, like any of 319 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: that stuff. It's like we can't avoid it. We have 320 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: been raised in a culture of individualism that has turned 321 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: into selfishness, and we have to learn how we are 322 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: being called to return back to unity consciousness, to where 323 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: we think as a collective instead of as an individual. 324 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: And it's not our fault that we were born into 325 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: this system and onto this planet during this time and 326 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: in this like deeply toxic patriarchal system. However, like I 327 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: believe we incarnated here for a reason, like in America, 328 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: and believe me, Like I'm like I want to move 329 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: to Canada or or fucking Denmark. I don't think that's 330 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: my job, Like I don't think that's my work now, 331 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: Like I I want to be able to like sit 332 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and watch my Instagram stories without seeing like one hundred 333 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: accounts of violence and hatred and disgusting ship because that 334 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: used to be the way that I like decompressed and like, 335 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: of course I have that feeling of like, oh man, 336 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: I wish things could go back to normal. We all 337 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: feel that. But that's our shadow. That's our shadow. The shadow, well, 338 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: that's the ego telling you to like ignore the show. Yeah, 339 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: I've been like even the social media stuff, Like you're 340 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: saying I've been stressed. I'm like, can't we just go 341 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: back to normal? You know, and like you crave that 342 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: the thing that you know, I guess it's the comfortable. Yeah, 343 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: we want to see, you know, just like people splashing 344 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: around on the beach and Fourth of July parties and 345 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: like some are fun and like we all kind of 346 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: long for that, but you know, this is like a 347 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: dark night of the soul moment. Hunt are like we 348 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: can't hide from it. And the more we try to 349 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: fight against it, I think the more intense it's going 350 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: to become. And I do think it's going to get 351 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: more intense. Yeah, I mean not crazy, but I do 352 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: think there's a lot you know, this is this is 353 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: a marathon or it's not a spring, Like we have 354 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: to we have to first wake up. That's the first step. 355 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: But like where we are now, yeah, exactly exactly so 356 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: that's like step one. And I think that we as 357 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: the younger generations UM are becoming. I think our work 358 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: here on this planet is more emotional UM. Where like 359 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: our parents and boomers and people in that generation, you know, 360 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: there was very much this kind of like authoritative parenting 361 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: and like children should be you know, seen and not 362 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: heard UM. And it created a lot of trauma and 363 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: disassociation and not a lot of like emotional connectivity. And 364 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: so it kind of fed into that sense of like selfishness. 365 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: And and also just like what does our what does 366 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: our country and our society and capitalism asked us to 367 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: do to produce, to consume UM? And this is how 368 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: we find value, This is how we find worth in 369 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: a culture that just keeps asking us to work and 370 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: work and work and by and by and by and 371 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: do and do and do, and then all of a 372 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: sudden we're left with uh, you know, climate change, and 373 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: like the Earth is screaming at us, like and it's 374 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: time to stop and slow down and question what we're 375 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: doing here. We're we're disconnected from each other, and we're 376 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: disconnected from Earth energy UM, and we're disconnected from our motions. 377 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: And so I think, right now is a time when 378 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: we can really like start to refocus on unity and um, 379 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: we now have more tools than our previous generations. Um, 380 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's okay to go to therapy now. 381 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: It's right about therapy. I mean the fact that Instagram 382 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: psychologists are hot right now and so are like and 383 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: so always. What I do like this is a sign 384 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: that we are waking up and we are wanting to heal, 385 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: and we are wanting to care about each other more. 386 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: And I think this is a good thing. I think 387 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: it's so interesting what you mentioned earlier about being Um, 388 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, and I know everyone has different beliefs about 389 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: whether we reincarnate or we choose to come to the 390 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: world when we come and all those things, but there's 391 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: something in that for me, I know that feels very 392 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: much like again, this is not a mistake that I 393 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: am here during this time because of the things that 394 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: my you know, my heart desires, that my emotions that 395 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: I seek out constantly that make me feel comfortable, that 396 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: are the the you know, the challenges I've faced in 397 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: my life have forced me into It's felt like but 398 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: it feels like no mistake, and I just I can't 399 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: help but have that feeling, like you said that our 400 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: generation is leaning more into let's get real, let's talk 401 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: about the real stuff, let's talk about the shadow side. 402 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: Let's like face ourselves. And I'm so curious where it's 403 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: going to go. Yeah, And I mean we can see 404 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: how it's happening now on a collective level, like this 405 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: anti racism work is our country shadow. And if you 406 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: think of the US as an entity, like the US 407 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: has a birth chart too, you know, and if we 408 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: look at it, we can see that like it is 409 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: now this time where the shadow is being shown. You know, 410 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: our history has been hidden from us and we've been 411 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: lied to. And it's like if you look at you know, Germany, 412 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: they teach they go to concentration camps and they teach children, 413 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: school children their history. Um, and we we haven't done that. 414 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: We have whitewashed history and made it look pretty and 415 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: it's not true. But our our our country was founded 416 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: on stolen land and built on the backs of slaves. 417 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: And and that's a fucking problem that we don't know 418 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: about that. That's a problem that up until three weeks ago, 419 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: I had no idea what June tenth was. I know, 420 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: I felt the same about that. That's so true. But 421 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: it's just like what you're saying, it's like we just 422 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: don't look at it. That's interesting to think about other 423 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: countries and how they just look at it versus us 424 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: just like pretending it's not there. Almost yah, yeah, and 425 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: like it's been it's not that we well we have 426 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: pretended that it's not there, but we've also been sold 427 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: live right and taught. We've been disillusion and you know, 428 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: I spoke about it earlier, but like Neptune Um. Neptune 429 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: is the planet that kind of governs um illusion and UM. 430 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: When it goes retrograde, it's kind of like this veil 431 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: being lifted where we can see things clearly. We can 432 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: see what was hidden, and so I think, um, there 433 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: will be kind of a mass uncovering of things that 434 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: were have been hidden before, have been in shadow, and 435 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: shadow no longer become shadow when it sheds when we 436 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: shed light. Yeah. Yeah. So since the tarot card stuff 437 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: is um really your world? Is there anything that you've 438 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 1: seen in the past week or that you see like 439 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: coming does that has that how that works? Can you 440 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: see future stuff through that? I mean, I'm not and 441 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: I always tell my clients, like I'm not a fortune teller, 442 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm going to tell you that like in three 443 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: years or two years, this is what's going to happen. UM. 444 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: I do often pull cards for like past, present, and future, 445 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: but I see the future card as like an invitation 446 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: for you to step into. But like everything I see 447 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: can be I believe in free will, Like I don't 448 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: believe that, Like you know, I'm going to pull these 449 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: cars and it's like predestined. They're just lessons we need 450 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: to learn. But we have to do the work of 451 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: actually like learning them, and you know, going through that, 452 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes we we procrastinate, you know, we we listen 453 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: to the ego we want to stay comfortable. And that's 454 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: fine too. I think eventually, like we'll get many many 455 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: opportunities for them to come. I think the universe is 456 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: abundant in that way. And UM. But what I I've 457 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: been seeing UM or what I'll speak to as far 458 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: as a tarot, is that like is what we call 459 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: an Emperor year. And we we do this terror readers 460 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: do this UM just by connecting numerology to the year, 461 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: and so you can look at like what you can 462 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: add up all the numbers of your birthday to what 463 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: year it is, and see for you personally, like what 464 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: year you're in, So is two plus two is four 465 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: and number four is the card of the Emperor. And 466 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: the funny thing is is that, like you know, back 467 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: in December when I was just a hopeful girl, you know, 468 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm just not worried about a thing. Yeah, but you 469 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: know what I was saying, I had no idea what 470 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: was coming from. And I was so excited about because 471 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: the Emperor is like connected to Aria's energy and I'm 472 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: an are going to be my a year and like 473 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, the Emperor in his like high vibe is 474 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: masculine energy, and masculine energy is productive. It is structural, 475 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: it is organized, it is stable. Um. It manifests well. Um. 476 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: And And when I pulled the Emperor card for people, 477 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: I actually usually use the metaphor of government and say that, like, 478 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, government, when working well, is structure and organization 479 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: for the good of the collective. So we pay our 480 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: taxes and then our garbage gets picked up, and then 481 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: there's street lights that produce order, and then you know, 482 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: our mailman comes and the kids go to public school, 483 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: and like this is structure and order for the good 484 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: of the collective, right, um, And I feel like what 485 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: we're really seeing this year is Emperor reversed. And so 486 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: when a car comes reverse, I look at its shadow. 487 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: And some people don't read reversals. It doesn't matter. There's 488 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: a light and a shadow to every card. Right, So 489 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: it's more toxic masculinity. So this is control aggression, violence. 490 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: This is a corrupt system, and it's exactly what we're seeing. 491 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: We're looking at the systemic corruption in in our government. 492 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: We're looking at a president who acts like a dictator. 493 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: We're looking at a system of policing that is meant 494 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: and was created to oppress people of color. Um, And 495 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: we're just looking at how that system has continued to 496 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: be funded and fed by rich white men, you know, 497 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: and how like things as simple as defunding the police 498 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: and giving that money to healthcare workers and people who 499 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, are more equipped to deal with a mentally 500 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: ill person walking down the street. So instead of getting murdered, 501 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, he gets sent to a facility where he 502 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: can you know, receive help and you know, and so 503 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: this is this is what we're seeing. We're seeing this 504 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: corruption in the system. So do what it because so 505 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: when we talk about all this stuff. I think I know, 506 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: for me, for instance, like even when this racism stuff 507 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: started to even come to light, I was like, I'm 508 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: exhausted already of fear of you know, the anxious feelings 509 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: that I've been having because of coronavirus and how that's 510 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: affected my life in general, how that's affected our world 511 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: in general. And so I think it's really easy this 512 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: year to get pretty bogged down with all of it. 513 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: Is there some sort of like bright side of just 514 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: like these changes that you see at all? I mean, 515 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: obviously I know the bright side, that's not the right 516 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: way to say that. It's like, how do we get 517 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: through to where it's just like we can embrace this 518 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: as a positive? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah? Totally. 519 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that we have to remember 520 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: a couple of things. We have to remember. One that like, 521 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: we as a culture and as a people are rebilient. 522 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: We've been through this before, not in our lifetimes and 523 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: not in our parents lifetimes, but like we have handled pandemics, 524 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: we have handled revolutions like and we continue to grow 525 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: and evolve. And I think that sometimes when we feel 526 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: so like overwhelmed, and overburdened that we forget um how 527 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: truly like resilient we are like and that also like 528 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: if we band together, like it only makes us stronger. 529 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: And so this time is going to require strength, encourage, 530 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: and rebiliency. You know, it's not a time for weakhearted 531 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: UM victimhoot in things like this, UM, that we really 532 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: need to call on our reserves and our strength and 533 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: on whatever makes us feel UM connected, like whether that's 534 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: your God, or your angels or your ancestors. Like we're 535 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: doing this work for that, you know, like we are 536 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: standing on the backs of our ancestors to continue to 537 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: to do what society is asking us to do, which 538 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: is like wake up and change and like they're proud 539 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: of us and UM, but we can also call on 540 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: them for support and for guidance UM. And I think 541 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: that's a really important part of right now. I think 542 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: it's also really important just to remember that like this 543 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: is a time when we have to our nervous systems 544 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: have to handle a lot more than like we ever 545 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: have in the past. And technology is making that really 546 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: intense because like in the past, you never would be 547 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: able to just like pick up this device that's on 548 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: you at all times and see news from all over 549 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: the world. Um, and it's really really overwhelming. And so 550 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: I think it's really important to also take breaks with that, 551 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: because like our pleasure and our joy is revolutionary, and 552 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: so we can't just like fight all of the time, 553 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: like because that's what capitalism wants us to do. It 554 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: wants us to work ourselves to death in order to 555 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: like serve the man. And I know I sound like, um, 556 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I mean I think that's I 557 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: think that that's true though, because it's like, actually didn't 558 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: even realize how much I worked until I stopped doing 559 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: that for a couple of months. And now I'm like 560 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: I cannot, like I physically cannot do it. It is insane, 561 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: the amount of like my body will just shut down 562 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: after a certain amount of time or my rain just 563 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: like okay, I'm done. Like I did this for a 564 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: couple of hours and I can't do this anymore. And 565 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: I used to do it for like twelve hours, you 566 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just like the capacity that 567 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: I have to just go, go go is so much 568 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: lower now that I've actually been forced to slow down. 569 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: And so but I don't think I would have ever 570 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: realized it if I hadn't been forced to. So those 571 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: are the kind of things. Yeah, that's a silver lining, 572 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: Like that's a gift. Like that's your question, Like what 573 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: are we looking for? Like when else, besides in quarantine? 574 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: Did you take six walks a day? Like when? Yeah? 575 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: You know, I know every single one of my neighbors, 576 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: Like my four year old daughter like has relationships with 577 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: people who lived three blocks away, but like I never 578 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: talked to them as they're walking by while she's standing 579 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: on the porch and go for a walk and they're 580 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: like hey, yeah, like holy sh it um, and so 581 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: like there's this connection that's happening. And like when else, 582 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: Like I have a bigger garden this year than I've 583 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: ever had. Like these things, these are like the little 584 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: silver linings is like remembering to take pleasure in these 585 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: simple things in the change of the season's you know, 586 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: this happens where we are in the spring, um when 587 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: we are able to like plant gardens and enjoy the 588 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, the flowers blooming and like to even notice 589 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: the things right in front of you. I don't think 590 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: that I was doing that, you know, to rest in 591 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: a society that tells you to work is revolutionary. To 592 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: receive in a society that tells you to always give 593 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: is revolutionary. Like to just embrace feminine energy and sit 594 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: and be quiet and still and do nothing is revolutionary. 595 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: And like we're in the middle of a revolution, and 596 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: like we have to remember that simply paring and nourishing 597 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: for ourselves, like ourselves on a soul level, is revolutionary. 598 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: And it's not like this like branded whitewashed self care 599 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: that we see, you know, that can be like you know, 600 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: you have to do this special bath with all of 601 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: these ingredients and like take all these adaptagins and buy 602 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: and buy and buy because it's based around capitalism. But 603 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: like true nourishment in care is walking out to my 604 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: garden and you know, picking some lettuce and some herbs 605 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: and making a salad. Like it's that simple. And like 606 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: I think, you know, just returning to those basics, Like 607 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: I got to shop in a way that I've always 608 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: wanted to shop by just like not going to big 609 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: stores and buying from local farmers markets that we're doing 610 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: like um deliveries to individuals instead of restaurants that were 611 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: all closed down, And like, you know, I think that 612 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: this type of self care, this really simple type of 613 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: self care of just like giving ourselves more time and 614 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: more space, disconnecting from our phones. Um is within itself, 615 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: Like so much medicine. I love that. I love looking 616 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: at the self care, the slow down, the focusing on 617 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: what's right in front of you. As a revolutionary I 618 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: hadn't thought about it that way. Um, where can people 619 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: find you? Because i'd, like I said I mentioned at 620 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast, I follow your Instagram and 621 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: your card readings every day really do help me. It's 622 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: kind of like a part of my meditation. So tell 623 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: people where they can find you. So my website is 624 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: just my name with my middle initial It's Holly do 625 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: Rainy dot com. I have a blog on there I 626 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: put up just like medicine for every season. Right now 627 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: we're in cancer season. Um. I have my Instagram which 628 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: is the same Holly d Rainy um. And I have 629 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: a podcast myself called Tarot Talk Yeah, and that on 630 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: that I actually do reading for every new moon and 631 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: full moon. So if you really want some extra, like 632 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: I do the daily cards for every day on Instagram, 633 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: and then on the podcast, I'll pull a whole spread 634 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 1: and I'll talk about the energy of that two week 635 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: period and kind of like what the collective themes are, 636 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: what we're releasing, what we're asking to kind of bring in. 637 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, there's there's all kinds of um all right, Well, Holly, 638 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. Honestly, this was very insightful 639 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: for me, and I hope it was for all you 640 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: guys listening. I like the idea of just leaning into 641 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: our shadow and like looking at that, observing without judgment, 642 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: and I think, like what you said, that is the 643 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: revolution that's happening right now. Yeah, and I think one 644 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: of the best actually, I'm going to add to that 645 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: question that you just asked me. One of the best 646 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: way to do that is through like just like quietness 647 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: and stillness. And there's this one particular meditation that I love. 648 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: It's called rain. It's a Buddhist meditation, but it stands 649 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: for like recognizing how we're feeling, allowing for those feelings 650 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: to be present, investigating the beliefs that we have underneath 651 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: those feelings, and then offering nourishment to ourselves. Um So, 652 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: it's an acronym called rain Rain, and my favorite teacher, 653 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: Tara Brock, does guided Rain meditations on her podcast and 654 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: her website, so I'll send you that information. I saw 655 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: that actually on your Instagram, but yeah, I would love that, 656 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: and I'll link it in the description of this podcast 657 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: so you guys can go listen to it. To rain. 658 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: That's a really good one. Yeah, amazing, Holly, thank you 659 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: so much. It was so good to talk to you again. 660 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: It feels like it's it's been so long, but it 661 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: really hasn't. I know, I know. It was great. Thanks 662 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: for having me. Thank you guys for listening. M