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Speaker 2: Thank you, very bright. Chicago Bulls eighties nineties looking.
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Speaker 2: Very nice. How's everyone's Christmas? Yeah? I think the weather's
Speaker 2: just got me kind of kind of its kind of relaxed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just like home and go back to bed.
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Speaker 2: How was Christmas?
Speaker 6: Eight?
Speaker 7: How was yours?
Speaker 6: That was beautiful? Super great? Yes, sir, thank you facts
Speaker 6: Kurt nice, it was nice?
Speaker 4: A good day.
Speaker 2: Anype any problems that making sure a lot of buddies happen,
Speaker 2: vultage going around on Christmas? But you just good?
Speaker 7: Everything's good.
Speaker 2: Christmas good? Anybody do anything extra special or just spend
Speaker 2: time with family or alone or whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know if I don't know
Speaker 3: if I thanked you guys, and I thank the people
Speaker 3: on the show. But just remember, thank you all, Thank
Speaker 3: you all that on yesterday there was excuse me, there
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Speaker 2: So that's awesome.
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes you don't understand the impact that you
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Speaker 3: had it not been for your graciousness and your graciousness
Speaker 3: uh and donated the Holly's Helping Hands that they had. Uh,
Speaker 3: they had a Christmas that they would be able to remember.
Speaker 8: I want to say, and I want to add on
Speaker 8: to that that I learned from Mike Irving.
Speaker 7: I think going double team you want to feel, just want.
Speaker 6: To thank you, mister Jones them cause indirectly thanks to you.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know we've been tied to this Jones.
Speaker 3: You and I both have been tied to this Jones
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Speaker 7: Now, we do.
Speaker 3: We appreciate that to the Jones family. We ain't family,
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Speaker 6: We know we won't be in the family poetry. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Well, good, good, good thing.
Speaker 6: How was yours?
Speaker 2: Chris?
Speaker 6: Was good?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Backpack ful?
Speaker 2: We backpacked last night.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a visitor last night. We did, we did?
Speaker 6: Who was that?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 6: Man, the break?
Speaker 7: Can we sit on the break break?
Speaker 6: He got?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Do they work in the building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, it was.
Speaker 6: It was funny.
Speaker 2: They may never play again. They might have been one
Speaker 2: and done. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 6: We're talking to wow, just bringing it down.
Speaker 2: All right, Cowboys Eagles, big week, big week? How do
Speaker 2: you how do you do you prepare different when different
Speaker 2: quarterbacks start? Or is the game planned kind of the same?
Speaker 2: And then do you game plan even different from that
Speaker 2: when you don't know which quarterback is going to start?
Speaker 8: We would always see they didn't have concussions back then
Speaker 8: you've got knocked out the.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we can't see. We can't get paid for it.
Speaker 8: But anyway, Uh, we prepared as though the starter was
Speaker 8: coming in and uh and we rally to everything else.
Speaker 8: And I'm quite sure they are spending more of their
Speaker 8: time on Jalen Hurts than they're doing. Mister Pickett is
Speaker 8: his name, right, so and then they'll rally to him.
Speaker 8: I Mean, one thing I've always admired by Jesse is backup.
Speaker 6: He is a backup.
Speaker 8: Now he may have a special trade that he does well,
Speaker 8: but he got four or five of them that he don't.
Speaker 6: That's why he's a backup.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Sue, we'll see my friend. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So prepare for the prepare for the best option, and
Speaker 2: in that way, you're still prepared for the work the lesser.
Speaker 3: Options, because I mean, this is a division opponent, so
Speaker 3: the familiality that you have with them, you know, the
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. You play this team twice a year every year,
Speaker 3: so you have a you have a distinct understanding of
Speaker 3: a lot of what they do and usually they're not
Speaker 3: going to veer very far from that. Now you may
Speaker 3: see less of the running options, which bode well for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Right to have Kenny pick it in, Uh,
Speaker 3: it helps you more because you're not Jalen Hurts makes
Speaker 3: you play eleven on eleven football, right, you have to
Speaker 3: account for his running ability.
Speaker 7: So that means at times.
Speaker 3: Where that one guy could be a rusher and could
Speaker 3: be coming to you know, to rush or.
Speaker 7: Now he has to stay back and be a spy.
Speaker 3: So you take that one guy that you can add
Speaker 3: into the equation and now he has to be a spy.
Speaker 3: He has to be accounting for the running ability of
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. Now we picket and which was which is
Speaker 3: weird because even like when they played last week, when
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts went out with the concussion, you got Saquon
Speaker 3: Barkley back there, and Kellen Moore still thought the best
Speaker 3: idea for them was the past of football, which was
Speaker 3: mind blowing to me that sa Quon Darnia had one
Speaker 3: hundred yards in the first quarter and you went and
Speaker 3: your backup quarterback comes in and you go, you know,
Speaker 3: full steam ahead, just keep throwing the ball. And I'm
Speaker 3: just like, you got the best running back in football
Speaker 3: who is on a tear and you decide that you
Speaker 3: want to ended up in interception.
Speaker 7: I just it just blew my mind.
Speaker 3: So you prepare for Jalen Hurts and you hope that
Speaker 3: you get Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2: All right, so you brought him up.
Speaker 6: Go ahead.
Speaker 8: I want to say this, I know this is off kilter.
Speaker 8: Hey man, eat the French friest, don't wait to the
Speaker 8: French fries get cold. Hey, I'm gonna come you don't know,
Speaker 8: don't do that French.
Speaker 2: He gets hanged.
Speaker 7: Mister French.
Speaker 2: When we when the startup music was coming on and
Speaker 2: y'all were talking, he looks up at me because I
Speaker 2: still love.
Speaker 6: Come on, man, don't waste the fries.
Speaker 2: Point of me going while you're talking. They had a
Speaker 2: single shot and so he knew, like you could be
Speaker 2: eating right now. He's looking at me, going, you need
Speaker 2: to eat it, eat it cold.
Speaker 6: But anyway, go ahead on. I'm sorry to get that out.
Speaker 2: You brought him up. Mister Barkley on pace to break
Speaker 2: the all time season rushing record single season rushing record
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five yards set by Eric Dickerson in
Speaker 2: eighty My friend two one and five. For the season,
Speaker 2: he needs one hundred and thirty nine yards per game
Speaker 2: over the next two games. How does that factor into
Speaker 2: the game plan? Because you know, you know, the whole team,
Speaker 2: all the coaches, everybody wants him to get that record,
Speaker 2: But not at the expense of losing a game, right,
Speaker 2: I losing him right because when he's healthy, he's one
Speaker 2: of To me, he's the best running back in the league.
Speaker 2: I mean Derek Henry's up there, and you got a
Speaker 2: couple other guys, but to me, he's he's the best
Speaker 2: because he's got it all. He's got powers, fast, he's explosiveness.
Speaker 2: So how do you game plan because he's close. Man,
Speaker 2: you could do that, especially if you against against us,
Speaker 2: if you set your mind to we are going to
Speaker 2: run the rock with this offensive line one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty nine per game, So that's what.
Speaker 7: Hundred and sixty eight total?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Total?
Speaker 2: I mean you could you can do that, you know what?
Speaker 6: Man, Man, we all in. He loved mister Barker, but
Speaker 6: not on.
Speaker 2: Us, right right, any other week, go ahead.
Speaker 3: The funny part about it is they're head coach Nick
Speaker 3: Siriannick Nick what's his name?
Speaker 6: Nick?
Speaker 7: Yes, Like he has that a hole.
Speaker 2: In him that he goes, we're just gonna run every play.
Speaker 2: Let's just go get it in this game.
Speaker 3: Let's try to go get two hundred and in this
Speaker 3: game because like I know that they're still fighting, you know,
Speaker 3: to make sure they should cure that number one overall
Speaker 3: spot and get home feel advantage and get that first
Speaker 3: week by But but Nickie like he has that that
Speaker 3: smug look on his face and he has that whole
Speaker 3: Let's let's let's give our franchise some history, and let's
Speaker 3: do it against a team that a lot of people think,
Speaker 3: you know, is the Ish, and they don't.
Speaker 7: They don't.
Speaker 3: You know, they can't smell themselves, so you know, it
Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me if they didn't try, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 8: And this is the one week Wait, mister Moore would say,
Speaker 8: you know what, they always got on me for not playing,
Speaker 8: for not running the ball.
Speaker 2: Well, I was shouldered this, here's the rock thirty five times.
Speaker 7: It wouldn't surprise me, man, And you're talking.
Speaker 6: About be yourself. Kell vinto Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I mean he only gained sixty six in their first meeting.
Speaker 3: And that was the insane part about it. Kellen decided
Speaker 3: to show the world. I guess the Cowboys whoever that Yeah,
Speaker 3: y'all told me I couldn't pass.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That was in the middle of us having an atrocious run.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm literally I remember watching the game and I'm
Speaker 3: sitting and I'm just like.
Speaker 7: What is he doing?
Speaker 3: And then he was throwing the ball like all these
Speaker 3: deep routes, like all these fae balls, right, because of
Speaker 3: course we're playing get like six seven, eight men in
Speaker 3: the box, so they're gonna run Saquan and so we're like,
Speaker 3: all right, man, the man coverage on the outside. And
Speaker 3: I remember sitting there talking to my boy Will Scott's,
Speaker 3: you know, watching the game do the pre half time
Speaker 3: of postgame show, and I'm like.
Speaker 7: What are they doing? What is Kellen Moore doing?
Speaker 3: And I got frustrated because full transparency at the core
Speaker 3: of who I am. I love football like I love football,
Speaker 3: and so I get frustrated at times even that the
Speaker 3: team that we're going up against is doing football wrong.
Speaker 7: It'll frustrate me.
Speaker 3: Not that I want them to be successful, and I'm
Speaker 3: just like, you can't be this stupid, and that will
Speaker 3: frustrate me. And I'm watching this game and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 3: you got a J. Brown, you got Davonte Smith, and
Speaker 3: you keep running go routes. I'm like, they're man to
Speaker 3: man coverage, run the slint like they're blitzing.
Speaker 7: Why aren't you running slints easy throws A J. Brown Like,
Speaker 7: make this make sense?
Speaker 3: Then like literally a couple after I said it, like
Speaker 3: back to back slants to AJ Brown, he got big
Speaker 3: yardists was. It was mind blown to me. And but
Speaker 3: that's Kellen Moore. That's the glitchiness of Kellen Moore. And
Speaker 3: that's the hope. That's that's the hope that you have,
Speaker 3: is that he will come into we'll go there was
Speaker 3: it here, there there.
Speaker 7: And he'll be in that that glitchy mold to think.
Speaker 3: Can he Pickett no problem, Kenny two gloves, no problem.
Speaker 3: We're gonna throw this thing fifty times in this game
Speaker 3: and show them that, okay, whatever, and not run Saquon.
Speaker 2: You think there's a offensive coordinator in the league, on
Speaker 2: any team where their fan base is just like, man,
Speaker 2: he's so good, he is a genius Detroit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're probably saying that about him right now.
Speaker 6: That dude in Kansas City who's won in the same Yeah.
Speaker 7: They probably said that about him.
Speaker 2: But there's not there's what maybe two three in the
Speaker 2: league that like it's there are quarterbacks, right, there's not many,
Speaker 2: and unless you have one of those, you constantly questioned
Speaker 2: play calls and formations, and there's coming.
Speaker 3: And there's a couple whose teams right now are saying,
Speaker 3: so glad we have him on my squad. There's a
Speaker 3: couple of Minnesota saying that Detroit saying.
Speaker 2: That, right, But there's not a lot, right.
Speaker 8: No, it's like the guy we just played, you talked
Speaker 8: about a young up and coming Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's what I think. That's what makes football so great.
Speaker 2: It's like golf. You get to enjoy it, but usually
Speaker 2: not for very long, right, because there's only unless you're
Speaker 2: at that elite, elite level, which there aren't very many
Speaker 2: people who mistakes. Yeah, exact quarterbacks, right, quarterbacks, offensive coordinators,
Speaker 2: head coaches with you know, in game playing decisions, and
Speaker 2: even some of the great ones right now, their fan
Speaker 2: bases get frustrated. You know, like Dan Campbell. You know
Speaker 2: he's going to go for it every fourth down unless
Speaker 2: he's on the two yard line.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: But I mean, unless you're in that elite group, it's
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator is one thing, and you know, defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's as you notice it as much.
Speaker 6: Because now teams are.
Speaker 8: This is you know what I mean, amaz is Back
Speaker 8: in the day when we play, you could shut a
Speaker 8: team down a twenty one point.
Speaker 6: You could stop.
Speaker 8: Teams trip on twenty one points. So when you don't
Speaker 8: score in this league today, you're definitely in trouble. I
Speaker 8: mean you are in trouble because you could trip on
Speaker 8: twenty four points in this league.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm with you. It could be very confused.
Speaker 2: It's just we're always we are always as fans, and
Speaker 2: I guess parts of this organization frustrated with so very
Speaker 2: rarely are we like everything's going great, this is great,
Speaker 2: this is there's always you know, and it always seems
Speaker 2: to fall back on end game decisions, right, and that
Speaker 2: goes way back, right, play calling, play selection, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just and then quarterback play. Those are the things
Speaker 2: we gripe about all the time. And it's like we
Speaker 2: in we're not alone. Like every team except what one
Speaker 2: or two, maybe three every year you're frustrated by those
Speaker 2: same things and that's why you keep coming back.
Speaker 8: The only thing that has stayed consistent over the years,
Speaker 8: the only thing that stay consistent over the years is uh,
Speaker 8: I'm talking to my head anyway.
Speaker 6: I forgot what I say something talking about it.
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Speaker 2: I was like the Bow's lady was.
Speaker 7: Like my boy losing talking about them back and.
Speaker 6: My boys through.
Speaker 2: We knew the day was coming. We just you know today.
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Speaker 8: The only thing that stay consistent is don't lose the
Speaker 8: turnover battle. The game went from running the ball to
Speaker 8: passing the ball. A lot of things have changed, all
Speaker 8: the emotions. They didn't want all the emotions back, and
Speaker 8: they wanted to line up and and and just all
Speaker 8: you the only thing that's stay consistent over time of possession.
Speaker 8: Back in the day when you ran the ball, you
Speaker 8: wanted to make sure. But the only thing that stay
Speaker 8: consisting over time is no turnovers.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to it. A lot of
Speaker 2: cover offensive defense today for the Eagles, Nate, is this
Speaker 2: one of the best offensive lines.
Speaker 6: In the league. It is?
Speaker 2: It is what makes them so good just just the
Speaker 2: talent or is it the play the play calling in
Speaker 2: schemes or talent?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 8: The physicalness in which they play. They're they're good finishers.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 8: The way they run their scheme, the things that they
Speaker 8: do to the way they run the ball makes them.
Speaker 6: Better pass blockers. Uh.
Speaker 8: I don't know if they can throw that ball consistently
Speaker 8: fifty five times tis a game back to back games.
Speaker 8: They don't have to because who because of the one
Speaker 8: great Barkley, but uh and brother Hurts that can also
Speaker 8: run the ball. But when when it's time for them
Speaker 8: to go in and sho shootout, they hold up very
Speaker 8: well run and pass. So this is a good offense line.
Speaker 8: There a bunch of malls up there there tight ends.
Speaker 8: They're multiple tight ends. They will get involved. They're not great,
Speaker 8: but they will willingly put their bodies in the way
Speaker 8: of harm's way, either from sway kon out of the.
Speaker 4: Before. Yeah, Parsons need to avoid laying Johnson.
Speaker 6: On the I believe that with all my heart.
Speaker 4: Sounds like the guy on the left just good.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but he's a little bit bigger.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A lot of people, a lot of them play in
Speaker 3: the first meeting with with the Cowboys. Yeah but you
Speaker 3: you said something like this, this office of line is
Speaker 3: one of the best.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, the best.
Speaker 2: This is the best office hands down, people well Detroit second, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the best offensive Kurts buddies over at PFF.
Speaker 2: They ranked the Eagles number one, and no lineman is
Speaker 2: ranked lower than fourteenth.
Speaker 7: This is the best, Like it's it's that's crazy. It's
Speaker 7: everything right.
Speaker 3: It's they have the skill, they have the experience, they
Speaker 3: have the talent, they have the nastiness. This is there's
Speaker 3: one unit, well, their trench unit, their offense and defensive lines.
Speaker 3: They embody the Philadelphia grittiness, the grunginess of Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: They are this hockey town. Yeah.
Speaker 3: This this this line, this line is legit. The line
Speaker 3: is this is this. They move people like they move
Speaker 3: they unearth you. But they're legit because they work well together.
Speaker 3: Yeah that you know you can have.
Speaker 8: The guy that I can't think of his name for
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers, he's the older Trump Trent. You
Speaker 8: can have Trent that helped the other guys be better.
Speaker 8: But they got two. Yeah, they got too at the
Speaker 8: center that is maturing real fast, and they got the
Speaker 8: right tack of that is the ultimate warrior. I mean,
Speaker 8: when you got two or more guys that can play well,
Speaker 8: you can control the situation, especially when the outside and
Speaker 8: the inside guys are your most important guys that their
Speaker 8: center make all the calls. He can block one on one,
Speaker 8: so that can free up your guards. So you don't
Speaker 8: have to have great guards now you can. But if
Speaker 8: your tackles are great and your center is great, that's
Speaker 8: a sweet thing to have because that frees up your
Speaker 8: guard to go wherever he needs to go.
Speaker 3: And to add on to that, when you watch when
Speaker 3: you watch these guys run offense, I mean their center
Speaker 3: will snap the ball and then he's out. He's like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, pull guys. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: he's leading the brigade on a pool. So you got
Speaker 3: your guards can do different things. I mean, that's interchangeable.
Speaker 3: When guards can block down center pulls out. Now, you know,
Speaker 3: hick on the tight end and center pulling around the edge,
Speaker 3: and I mean that that gives you so much versatility
Speaker 3: within your offensive lineman when you have that ability to
Speaker 3: guard pull one time there's another guard pull. Another time
Speaker 3: the center can block down, he can pull. So all
Speaker 3: these different scenarios that they can run the ball differently,
Speaker 3: it's because they start up front. These are the talented talent.
Speaker 8: And the thing that tad on with Jesse saying, when
Speaker 8: you have a line like that, there's no play you
Speaker 8: cannot run. When you have an offensive line like that,
Speaker 8: there's no play you cannot run. They can block long
Speaker 8: enough to pad. They can give you the longest pass,
Speaker 8: the intermediate, especially the quick stuff. They can run inside
Speaker 8: they can run. So what with the guys that have outside.
Speaker 6: In the back.
Speaker 8: What the only limit they have? And I hate to
Speaker 8: say this, the only limit they may have is their courter.
Speaker 7: It's a quarterback.
Speaker 2: How you brought up something I've never really thought about before.
Speaker 2: When you have a very athletic offensive line, Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: you ask him to pull a lot, and you know,
Speaker 2: do you know come across the running backs face and
Speaker 2: go to the other side. When you think about offensive lineman.
Speaker 6: You don't.
Speaker 2: Athletic is not normally a word, right.
Speaker 6: I will first look for now it is you.
Speaker 2: Just think big guy strong, can move guys.
Speaker 6: These decent feet and then you work with you.
Speaker 2: But if you think about it, a three hundred pound
Speaker 2: man that's squatting down most of the game, all that
Speaker 2: pressure on his lower back, in his knees, right, and
Speaker 2: then you're asking him the majority of the game to run,
Speaker 2: which is something that three hundred pound man doesn't normally do, right,
Speaker 2: and then hit guys in open space and do that
Speaker 2: multiple times in a drive and do that for four
Speaker 2: hours straight?
Speaker 6: That's nice?
Speaker 2: How hard is that for an offense?
Speaker 6: I didn't have to do it.
Speaker 2: But when you have one that's athletic like, because you
Speaker 2: have different types, right, you have some that don't do
Speaker 2: that and you can't ask him to do that. But
Speaker 2: then when you have one like this, that's that's very athletic, right.
Speaker 6: Think think of this.
Speaker 8: They replaced their center, not all the way because nobody
Speaker 8: could be what he was.
Speaker 6: He was a unique was he? That was he? That good? Yes? Sir?
Speaker 8: He was a unique gentleman half the size of he
Speaker 8: was him and Stepnoski the same guys, what six three
Speaker 8: six four, two hundred and eighty pounds and they had
Speaker 8: to really beef up during the season.
Speaker 6: They had to really eat to make sure that they stayed.
Speaker 8: That why you know, step went to Canada because they
Speaker 8: could do it freely anyway. But I don't know if
Speaker 8: this kid, he said, and now for them for him
Speaker 8: to retire, and they found a guy that is similar
Speaker 8: to that, we don't know over time will he be that.
Speaker 6: But why couldn't get what I'm saying.
Speaker 13: You mentioned watching other teams and seeing why are they
Speaker 13: doing this so bad and all that? Do you guys,
Speaker 13: even though they're beating up on the Cowboys, do you
Speaker 13: like to see offensive line or other teams like that.
Speaker 8: I'm like I thought I was on the one thought
Speaker 8: that way what Jesse said early when he said, when
Speaker 8: I'm watching good football, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 6: I don't watch sorry football no more that's in high school,
Speaker 6: college on any level.
Speaker 8: If I see two, three and whatever, five and whatever teams,
Speaker 8: I don't want.
Speaker 6: To see bad football. I just turn it off.
Speaker 8: But when I see two good teams playing spell the
Speaker 8: team that's playing against Dallas, and I'm saying the same thing, Like, what.
Speaker 6: What does this dude do? That's not sound football?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 8: I like good sound football, whether you throw it one
Speaker 8: hundred times, whether you pass it, as long as it's
Speaker 8: sound and competitive and smart when you're doing it, I'm
Speaker 8: with it.
Speaker 2: So you didn't watch the Texans game yesterday?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: Sure didn't stay tuned in for halftime?
Speaker 8: Nah. Now when they had to lay the ride down
Speaker 8: on the horse, I turned away from her too.
Speaker 3: The lady, the lady, the lady that is sixty one
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Speaker 7: Let the be who was we have know that that
Speaker 7: is sixty one?
Speaker 6: Oh it would be okay, okay, good to know, good.
Speaker 7: Little lady, lady lady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right?
Speaker 7: That bees at him on Twitter?
Speaker 3: At him on Twitter, sixty one Nate Newton on Twitter.
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Speaker 2: him a lot of Yes. At some point I hadn't
Speaker 2: gotten there yet. You know it's coming. Uh. We will
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Speaker 2: the proud dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. All right, Jesse,
Speaker 2: time to shine. Let's talk about these receivers again. We
Speaker 2: already talked about them once this year. Are they still
Speaker 2: Are they the best tandem in the league? Are still
Speaker 2: just up there as part of the conversation. Has anything
Speaker 2: changed since the last time we saw him? They got
Speaker 2: better or worse?
Speaker 3: No, they didn't get worse. Yeah they are. They are
Speaker 3: one of the top two or three in the league.
Speaker 2: How are you not putting up?
Speaker 6: I know what the answer is.
Speaker 7: They just told you, and they just told you.
Speaker 2: You got two of the best receivers in the league.
Speaker 2: So you got the best running back in the league,
Speaker 2: you got the best offensive line in the league, you
Speaker 2: got good tight ends. You have a quarterback that's a liability.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's it? I thought you're gonna say
Speaker 2: the coordinator.
Speaker 3: But no, Dylan Hurts is not a good passer or
Speaker 3: throw of the football, Like that's just that's fact. And
Speaker 3: I said, he's a he's a good quarterback. He's a
Speaker 3: decent quarterback. But when you have that many weapons, like
Speaker 3: you should be in the MVP race. That's the conversation
Speaker 3: that you should be in. When you have the best
Speaker 3: offensive line, when you have the best back in the league,
Speaker 3: when you have two the top two duos in the league,
Speaker 3: and Davonte Smith who's a route runner and a J
Speaker 3: Brown who's one of the most physical specimens at that position,
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be in the MVP category. The problem
Speaker 3: is Jalen Hurts is more athlete than he is quarterback.
Speaker 3: And I think that's that. You know, they they've committed
Speaker 3: to him financially, so that's that's what will be their
Speaker 3: guy going forward. But just imagine like the things that
Speaker 3: we keep asking for for our quarterbacks, like, hey, give them,
Speaker 3: give them another weapon on the outside.
Speaker 6: Of go with CD.
Speaker 2: He's got them shure up this offensive.
Speaker 3: Line, you know, and Dak did was second in MVP
Speaker 3: voting last year with not even close with the weapons
Speaker 3: that a guy like Jalen Hurts has, You know what
Speaker 3: I mean, And so that just tells you that he
Speaker 3: is as a passer, he is a liability. I understand
Speaker 3: he can't throw, but when you have that kind of
Speaker 3: when you have those type of weapons around you, and
Speaker 3: you have that level of comfortability around you, you should
Speaker 3: be we should talk about you amongst the elites, and
Speaker 3: we don't.
Speaker 4: How do you exploit that?
Speaker 2: Wait, real quick, breaking news, real quick, Thank you Chris
Speaker 2: for sending me this. Zach Berman is at Eagles practice.
Speaker 2: Three quarterbacks at practice. This is on X. Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: is not one of them. Kenny Pickett is throwing with
Speaker 2: Tanner McKee before.
Speaker 7: Practice, signed book too, So Hurt's not a practice, We'll
Speaker 7: say Thursday. He got a practice by at least Friday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so there you go.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Kirk.
Speaker 13: Well, it maybe not matter now, but I mean, is
Speaker 13: there a way you can exploit him being the weak
Speaker 13: link when there's so much strength around him? You just
Speaker 13: hope he makes mistakes on his own.
Speaker 3: The biggest thing is is that for Jalen Hurts, when
Speaker 3: he's when he's at his worst is when you have
Speaker 3: contained pressure. And that's what the Cowboys have to If
Speaker 3: I'm if I'm Zim. I think he's been doing a
Speaker 3: really good job with the way he's deployed his defense
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. But you hear the saying
Speaker 3: like because for example, like Mike is the kind of
Speaker 3: guy who wants to get after the quarterback, right, And
Speaker 3: whether Jalen hurts players or not, but let's just say
Speaker 3: he does.
Speaker 7: When when when.
Speaker 3: Micah is rushing, you can't get deeper than the quarterback right,
Speaker 3: So you hear the tackles all about you know, hey,
Speaker 3: make a ride to hump. Now what happens is you
Speaker 3: open up running lanes for the quarterback. So you have
Speaker 3: to have this level of contained rush when Micah comes off.
Speaker 2: I have to stay.
Speaker 3: I have to be able to see the quarterback, whether
Speaker 3: that's on the right side of the left side, I
Speaker 3: have to I can't be looking at the hurts back.
Speaker 3: I can't look at his numbers too much. Of that
Speaker 3: means he's gonna find these a gap, you know, b
Speaker 3: gap holes to run through. And now you don't have
Speaker 3: a tomorrow at overshown in the in the line back
Speaker 3: and second level anymore.
Speaker 7: To run a guy down like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's when he becomes the dual threat, and
Speaker 3: now gods start coming up and he's dumping things off
Speaker 3: behind you. And these guys are playmakers, so defensively you
Speaker 3: can bat it by. When we rush, we rush in containment.
Speaker 3: We want to the pocket to collapse, but we don't
Speaker 3: want to give him running lanes. So everybody has to
Speaker 3: rush with the level of force, but also with the
Speaker 3: level of discipline that he runs into you and you
Speaker 3: don't run past him because that's when he gets good.
Speaker 3: And now when you're making him throw from a collapse pocket,
Speaker 3: he's a little bit of the shorter type, doesn't have
Speaker 3: the strongest arm, doesn't always have the most intelligent decision making.
Speaker 3: When he gets in trouble, that's when you start seeing
Speaker 3: him floating past this trying to force throws into places
Speaker 3: where it shouldn't go. And that's when he gets hisself
Speaker 3: in ty trouble. But if you allow him to be
Speaker 3: a dual threat quarterback, that just breaks your defense down.
Speaker 3: Now God gets a little bit, they get a little
Speaker 3: bit of anty, they start stepping up, he start dropping
Speaker 3: it off behind your head and in the big plays
Speaker 3: beginning to happen. So you got to rush him with
Speaker 3: the discipline and containment, never going by him, but keeping
Speaker 3: him in that pocket and closing off the oxygen to him.
Speaker 2: Nate your guys defensive line for Philly. They're big. They
Speaker 2: they've drafted well up there.
Speaker 7: The last sounds more like guys.
Speaker 2: They're my type, all right, too big, a little more defined.
Speaker 2: I got you nine Milton tyro Tyron.
Speaker 6: Okay, that the ninety three Milton Williams, and he's come
Speaker 6: on strong.
Speaker 2: Hadn't really heard a lot about him, but he's playing.
Speaker 8: Yes, Jordan Davis is playing more consistent. Number ninety the
Speaker 8: big nose tackling, and the man is Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2: Where did Milton Williams come from?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: I want to say, a small school, not a real
Speaker 6: big school.
Speaker 11: Is he?
Speaker 6: Is he tech? Yeah? Oh yeah, I'm telling you, not
Speaker 6: a big school rookie.
Speaker 7: He's from Crowley because this is fourth year, fourth year.
Speaker 6: He balling man, he balling his sweat.
Speaker 8: Got eight sacks and Nolan Smith I think got about five,
Speaker 8: about six.
Speaker 6: They got forty sacks.
Speaker 8: They normally be up around this time of the year,
Speaker 8: up around close to fifty, so they're not sacking as much.
Speaker 8: They're still getting pressed with number ninety eight, Number ninety eight.
Speaker 8: It's nice. He's smart, he's nice. He understands what's always
Speaker 8: before him.
Speaker 6: He can eat up blocks. If he's tired, he can
Speaker 6: eat up blocks.
Speaker 8: If he's fresh, he can be he can dominate you
Speaker 8: one on one, escape the escape a double team.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 6: He he is nice.
Speaker 8: Now, I mean number ninety eight and what makes it click?
Speaker 8: Then you you going that back in with their linebackers.
Speaker 8: Nikobe Dean is playing well, Zach Bond both of them
Speaker 8: have three three three point five sacks. They can rush
Speaker 8: the passer, whether the blitz from the from off the
Speaker 8: ball or either on the ball. They're nice and uh,
Speaker 8: Zach Bond is number fifty three and n Kobe Dean
Speaker 8: is number seventeen. They're they're just a nice defense. What
Speaker 8: happened last week is I don't I don't know what happened.
Speaker 8: I guess it's the division game. And because they Washington turned.
Speaker 7: The ball over five times, I'm like, and I'm looking
Speaker 7: at the hit.
Speaker 8: I believe I look at here coaches when it comes
Speaker 8: to stuff like that, Like what was coach thinking?
Speaker 6: I mean, you were up twenty one. I was going
Speaker 6: to say, yeah, And I'm like, coach, what are you
Speaker 6: doing I mean, so I know, I mean, I know
Speaker 6: he's too arrogant to go in. And you know, after
Speaker 6: the game he said this was one on me. Fellas.
Speaker 6: I know he probably said, he probably pointed to everybody
Speaker 6: else but himself. But they got that last week wasn't them,
Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't them.
Speaker 2: You know, they're twenty eighth and blitz percentage and pressure percentage,
Speaker 2: but they're ninth in sacks. They have forty sacks, nineteen
Speaker 2: point one blitz percentage and eighteen point six and pressures.
Speaker 7: You know, you know a front is good when they don't.
Speaker 2: Have to blitz blitz and they're getting sacks.
Speaker 7: That's how you know a front is good.
Speaker 3: When we can just line up and we have enough
Speaker 3: talent and then just enough physical skill of strength that
Speaker 3: we just dominate you up front.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't gotta do all this other tricky stuff. And
Speaker 3: you know, I may do it every now and again,
Speaker 3: but when you have guys like Carter, and you have
Speaker 3: guys like Davis and Williams and Sweat and Dean, and
Speaker 3: you know they'll just line up the line up and
Speaker 3: I got good enough guys that they're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 3: beat you up, and.
Speaker 4: They rushing five. Then mainly with the three four they're playing.
Speaker 8: It looks like, yeah, they coming with four a lot
Speaker 8: of times. Every now and then they'll come with five.
Speaker 8: Like the numbers don't live on this thing right here.
Speaker 8: They they they are who they are, and but one
Speaker 8: consistent and not.
Speaker 3: Say that, but to your point, what what what helps
Speaker 3: them is that nine percent of the time you you
Speaker 3: you better have. You may have the advantages five on four,
Speaker 3: but two of your dudes, whoever those two may be,
Speaker 3: be you got, y'all, y'all are tasked with stopping ninety eight.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: You you gotta you are, You're gonna be spending double
Speaker 7: teams with you know, with Carter and and and and
Speaker 7: uh and Davis a lot of those times.
Speaker 6: You know you ain't.
Speaker 7: You ain't doing too much one on one with those dudes.
Speaker 3: You may, you may once in a while you may
Speaker 3: try to run some counter type stuff where you might
Speaker 3: try to just get them momentum going one way.
Speaker 7: You just block them down.
Speaker 4: But that's the key stopping.
Speaker 6: I've seen, I've seen I've seen ninety eight and ninety three.
Speaker 8: Uh, they're so strong and so agile to I've seen
Speaker 8: them stick arms out and get backs down that Initially
Speaker 8: that don't that don't have him a lot, but I
Speaker 8: see him do it twice against a running back, you know,
Speaker 8: the Redskins running back. Any joke man, the commanders, Yeah, yes, human,
Speaker 8: yeah whatever, I'm too old off.
Speaker 6: We worry about the name.
Speaker 8: Thank you know, just thank you commanders. What was their
Speaker 8: name before that? The admirals, the football team, the football team. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but anyway, when I see guys, because normally you'll get
Speaker 8: your arm broke or you'll get a dislocation. Yes, and
Speaker 8: they and they, it's gonna happen sooner or later.
Speaker 6: But they're gonna jam that all out there, and.
Speaker 8: They're gonna get caught in between them. That running back
Speaker 8: legs and he's gonna have a bad situation. But they
Speaker 8: be getting guys.
Speaker 6: Now, one of them.
Speaker 7: I'm like, wow, I will say this.
Speaker 3: If there is a weak spot on this defense for Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: it's the secondary. It really is like, yeah, Darius Slave
Speaker 3: may make some plays, but he ain't what he once was.
Speaker 7: He ain't big play Slave.
Speaker 6: No, but you ain't gaged Slave even the last game.
Speaker 7: You ain't giving them Listen, he ain't.
Speaker 6: He ain't.
Speaker 4: He ain't.
Speaker 7: Now there was a time where he was big place select.
Speaker 6: He ain't that no more.
Speaker 7: He's just Darius.
Speaker 4: He's just He's just.
Speaker 3: Just Darius, just like yeah c J. Guardan Johnson. His
Speaker 3: bark is much bigger than his bite.
Speaker 2: To me, Darius from Georgia.
Speaker 7: Yeah, from Georgia.
Speaker 3: Listen, I come from a time, and excuse me if
Speaker 3: I in some others, if ask.
Speaker 7: You know it's about to come out of my mouth.
Speaker 7: If Cee lamb plays. I come from a time. When
Speaker 7: you play wide receiver, you're not letting the white cornerback
Speaker 7: stop you.
Speaker 6: You just aren't.
Speaker 8: I'm saying that's a pretty good white quarner. Sorry, Cooper
Speaker 8: de jene and Jason Seahorn, please, he was.
Speaker 2: He was the last one.
Speaker 7: He's the last one. I just listen one for for him.
Speaker 2: Really check it.
Speaker 6: Check out to Russ.
Speaker 7: We don't talk about him. See how surprised you are?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Anything, Okay, So the dude go back off.
Speaker 3: Hey, no better be like hey, house in the house.
Speaker 11: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's andre. I think that's a that's about
Speaker 2: to stop. We'll pick up tomorrow and hit some more
Speaker 2: of those points. And you know what, call us. It's
Speaker 2: the it's the Christmas holiday season. Call us and let
Speaker 2: us know how your holiday was. We'll take calls tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It's been a while since we took calls. Jesse, good
Speaker 2: seeing you, man, Nate, good seeing you, Kirk.
Speaker 6: Good seeing you, the White Boy guys Minnesota, Chris Us
Speaker 6: on the air.
Speaker 2: Jazz Josh, thanks for keeping him company. We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 6: The guy that couldn't do anything on the game was
Speaker 6: I'm not telling.
Speaker 2: You, Jesse staddle the week Cowboys win if we'll be
Speaker 2: back see you tomorrow.
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