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Speaker 3: Forgot, almost forgot.
Speaker 4: Kind of a false start on the part of it
Speaker 4: was a late start called the part of producers degree
Speaker 4: who had the line of the week earlier. This week,
Speaker 4: it is time to get fire enough for some football.
Speaker 4: It's a fabulous fight song Friday. Here on mix Shots.
Speaker 4: Mickey Spagnola's got his Miszoo gear on right, and Everson
Speaker 4: Walls is not in the house. We are joined today
Speaker 4: by Nate in Frisco and Nate's got what let me
Speaker 4: see that T shirt there it's the HBC you Legacy Balls,
Speaker 4: the Black College Hall of Fame. Yes, that's right, Nate
Speaker 4: and Frisco is here to join us, and we break
Speaker 4: down like Dallas Washington.
Speaker 5: How y'all doing, I'm doing great, I'm good. I'm excited, man.
Speaker 4: There are football players on the football field going to
Speaker 4: a walkthrough, right, Yes, I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Looks like they're wearing their white helmets.
Speaker 4: They've been doing that every Friday, have they yes, to
Speaker 4: get them ready for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5: Thanks Having.
Speaker 2: I have nothing to do with that.
Speaker 4: Producer Supremes got the inside story.
Speaker 2: You want to know why they wear white helmets on Fridays.
Speaker 6: I don't know, because the truck that left to go
Speaker 6: to Washington left yesterday with their game helmets.
Speaker 2: So they put on the other helmets for the Fridays.
Speaker 4: So it's on it is on road game Fridays, they
Speaker 4: wear their white cramits on the field. But does it
Speaker 4: serve a dual purpose?
Speaker 2: Well, they have to get them fitted for those games.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so it's a dual purpose.
Speaker 2: It's a dual purpose. But that's why they usually you'll
Speaker 2: see him with.
Speaker 4: Their white you know, you know why Producers Supreme knows
Speaker 4: that the truck left for Washington last night.
Speaker 2: Bill knows.
Speaker 3: Bill knows what to help load it.
Speaker 4: He's part of the process of loading the truck. He
Speaker 4: gets the TV Department's equipment on the truck. It's got
Speaker 4: to be down there by a certain time yesterday. And
Speaker 4: I was the reason I know this is he was
Speaker 4: doing something for me, getting something ready for me to
Speaker 4: be picked up by my photographer Bill Ellis and.
Speaker 6: The great Buck if you can, and let me know,
Speaker 6: you need to start getting your off down here in
Speaker 6: a hurry.
Speaker 4: So we just pulled back the curtain there, let you know.
Speaker 4: But I don't know that a lot of people knew
Speaker 4: that there's an equipment truck that has to go in
Speaker 4: advance on these road games.
Speaker 5: Because it can't all fit underneath the plane.
Speaker 6: It can, but it it alleviates the process when we
Speaker 6: have to leave.
Speaker 3: Big big story in the morning news today about SMU
Speaker 3: having the truck all their stuff to away games and
Speaker 3: how many miles that truck has to.
Speaker 4: Much n I owe money they need for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they played Nevada round trip thirty three hundred
Speaker 3: miles to get their equipment there.
Speaker 6: I saw a different Storymick, that had the University of
Speaker 6: Miami having to go to I believe they went played col.
Speaker 4: Was it, yes?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: And that came through three thousand miles one way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. I remember when that happened about a
Speaker 4: month or so agoin.
Speaker 3: That's about as far as that's go for a conference
Speaker 3: for a conference game from kind of point they were
Speaker 3: point from what but that would be Nate's dream job.
Speaker 4: Actually, the way I wanted to start the show today,
Speaker 4: not that I'm fired up about this Washington game. I
Speaker 4: wanted to hear a rendition of It's beginning to feel
Speaker 4: a lot like Christmas because of what we've got going
Speaker 4: on tonight at the Star in Frisco as Santa arrives. Tonight,
Speaker 4: we got our big Christmas tree lighting ceremony, but mainly
Speaker 4: because of what happened last night, and I got to
Speaker 4: watch some snow football. I was texting friends and relatives,
Speaker 4: go to Amazon Prime because we got some snow football.
Speaker 4: It happened all of a sudden, just starting the fourth
Speaker 4: quarter of that game. And what, Nate, you like playing in.
Speaker 5: That snow, sir, No, don't want nothing to do with it. No,
Speaker 5: you don't like the atmosphere. Snow, A brutal cold is
Speaker 5: all equals up the losses.
Speaker 3: The dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh I.
Speaker 4: Love watching it.
Speaker 3: Get a roof.
Speaker 5: No, it's the advantage.
Speaker 7: Some people think it's the advantage for their players and
Speaker 7: for their.
Speaker 3: They don't play in the snow, they don't.
Speaker 7: Practice, but they they they thinks they advantage just because
Speaker 7: you live in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a beautiful thing unless you have to.
Speaker 3: Did you ever did you ever get to play in
Speaker 3: the snow?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the front yard occasionally. It would snow occasionally
Speaker 4: as it snowed. Since you lived here in Texas for
Speaker 4: the last four years, Mickey, but I met when you
Speaker 4: were a kid. The weather hasn't changed.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes it has.
Speaker 4: It would snow occasionally.
Speaker 5: Get floided in my period of growing up twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was man, really no, and I did.
Speaker 5: Not dig it at all.
Speaker 3: We dug it, We dug out of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't want any part of the Chicago.
Speaker 3: But we used to keep the snowshovel inside the house
Speaker 3: so in case the drifts were over the front door,
Speaker 3: we can shovel our way out.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 4: So did you watch the end of the game. I did, Okay,
Speaker 4: What did you think on the goal line with about
Speaker 4: a minute left and Cleveland scored the go ahead touchdown right,
Speaker 4: it looked to me like someone was letting a team score.
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess I didn't consider I was.
Speaker 4: They didn't talk about it on the broadcast. I'm sitting
Speaker 4: and now you can't get your footing very well down there,
Speaker 4: as we know from the ice Bowl. But in nineteen
Speaker 4: sixty seven. But there was a minute left and they
Speaker 4: were not going to stop them. The Steelers were not
Speaker 4: going to stop them once they got to the one
Speaker 4: yard line. The best chance of winning that foot and
Speaker 4: the Browns were not going to kick a field goal either.
Speaker 4: They were going to try to score the touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because it was the better chance of with footing and everything,
Speaker 4: to score the touchdown. Although it didn't look it just
Speaker 4: did not appear to me that the Steelers put up
Speaker 4: a whole lot of resistance on that touchdown. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's crazy to think about, but you still had a
Speaker 4: minute left, and they were actually scoring more points once
Speaker 4: the snow started coming down in that game than they
Speaker 4: were earlier in that game.
Speaker 3: So you think the offense had a I.
Speaker 4: Think I think they came down to the point that
Speaker 4: they felt like they had a better chance to win
Speaker 4: the game if they let them score and we get
Speaker 4: the ball back. That's just me. It wasn't Probably probably wrong,
Speaker 4: but that's just what it looked to me.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a good hell, Mary, was it.
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: How come they had more defensive guys there than you
Speaker 3: had offensive guys. They only had three receivers there. You
Speaker 3: got to have five, don't you.
Speaker 4: Not sure? All right, where do you want to go next?
Speaker 4: We got our own problems here, that's right.
Speaker 7: And it's not snowing, and it's not snowing and it's
Speaker 7: not cold.
Speaker 3: But the injuries are random.
Speaker 4: So the weather in Washington is going to be fine.
Speaker 3: Uh you know what, I didn't check on it.
Speaker 7: I think so, right, Chris, what we're looking at it's.
Speaker 2: Going to be clear. It's raining there today, but will
Speaker 2: be clear that like fifty something degrees.
Speaker 4: All right, Well that's I can this time of year.
Speaker 2: You live with that, right, I definitely can live with it.
Speaker 2: After I watched last night's game. I mean it could
Speaker 2: be worse.
Speaker 4: Right now, it's forty degrees in rain there and on
Speaker 4: Sunday a high of fifty seven, clear skies. It's perfect
Speaker 4: and it is a one o'clock kickoff, so that's about
Speaker 4: when it will be fifty seven degrees. So there you go. Hmm.
Speaker 2: I am one person that is not complaining.
Speaker 3: Who's that?
Speaker 2: I said?
Speaker 6: I am you are because I have to be on
Speaker 6: the field while you're in the press box.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'd.
Speaker 3: Rather be on the field than that's than the press box.
Speaker 4: So Mickey, who do you think is going to be
Speaker 4: lining up for the Cowboys?
Speaker 3: On such a really good question. I don't like the
Speaker 3: fact that when I saw the injury report from yesterday
Speaker 3: and really today is a walkthrough, so it doesn't really
Speaker 3: give you any more of an indication that Zach Martin
Speaker 3: and Tyler Smith were still not practicing, especially Tyler Smith,
Speaker 3: because they didn't finish the game.
Speaker 7: Because let's go, Awesome Riches, let's go TJ Bash, Let's work.
Speaker 7: Let's go to work babies.
Speaker 3: Okay, youth movement, Awesome doesn't have to play left tackle.
Speaker 4: Hey, Tyler Geiden has been a full participant.
Speaker 5: Yes he has.
Speaker 7: Yes, we'll be ready, He'll be good to go. Youth
Speaker 7: of Tomorrow is ready to rock, baby.
Speaker 3: Okay, So would you like that Ruth of Tomorrow Youth
Speaker 3: of Tomorrow last Monday night.
Speaker 4: For thirteen players.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'll that was enough.
Speaker 7: I am the only guy and I ain't saying I'm
Speaker 7: proud to say this, but I'm down with the youth movement.
Speaker 5: I am down with the youth movement.
Speaker 3: Yes, you'll like this because I took the time for
Speaker 3: my column for today to count how many players have
Speaker 3: played this season that either did not have or no
Speaker 3: more than in their third year, or guys that haven't
Speaker 3: had a big chance to play. Kind of like Rico right,
Speaker 3: this is kind of his thirty nine players. Let them
Speaker 3: play no more than third year in the league.
Speaker 7: Let them play, Let them play, and I ain't you
Speaker 7: know people like you give it up on the season. No,
Speaker 7: I just want to see them play. Well, I want
Speaker 7: to see I want to see these guys play.
Speaker 3: What precipitated this was? I keep getting asked, well, five
Speaker 3: game losing streak, they're three and seven, When do you
Speaker 3: throw in the towel and just play the young guys?
Speaker 3: I go, no, they're already playing.
Speaker 5: Yes, guys, yes, this is.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why they're in the situation they're in.
Speaker 7: You let them play, man, It's just it's where you're
Speaker 7: at right now.
Speaker 5: As an organization. Some teams.
Speaker 7: Go through this situation, been in this situation, and you know,
Speaker 7: until Dan Campbell got there, what six seven, eight years,
Speaker 7: the Detroit Lions rolled in this way. What you try
Speaker 7: to do is control the narrative. Get these young guys
Speaker 7: in here, do what you have to do with your
Speaker 7: coaches in that situation during the off season, get.
Speaker 5: Guys out there.
Speaker 7: But the thing that I'm saying, don't play with don't
Speaker 7: mess around with guys that you're not seeing a future with.
Speaker 7: You know, if you're not seeing a future with and
Speaker 7: I'll use Austine, if you're not seeing the future with him, Uh,
Speaker 7: don't play him. If you're not seeing a future with
Speaker 7: a Tolbert, are either one of the Jalens, don't don't
Speaker 7: don't mess around. Give everybody that you think an opportunity
Speaker 7: that you think can help this team going forward from
Speaker 7: this day going forward, let them play you you if
Speaker 7: you go in the next year, saying as a coach,
Speaker 7: whoever's left out of this wreckage that's gonna happen, saying
Speaker 7: I don't know about this guy. Somebody need to front
Speaker 7: him in the media. Like what you mean, coach, you
Speaker 7: don't know about this guy? We should know every like
Speaker 7: you said that story, you're doing every guy we should
Speaker 7: know a little bit about. We should like, Hey, does
Speaker 7: he need more grooming? Is he a guy that need
Speaker 7: to be replaced? Is he is in a competitive deal
Speaker 7: where it's two or three guys at his position?
Speaker 5: How do you handle that? You know, that's how we
Speaker 5: should be looking.
Speaker 3: That well, and they're kind of already doing that with
Speaker 3: the young guys that have to play out of necessity, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: and so you're you're finding out about overshown you're finding
Speaker 3: out about already. But I'm saying young guys that that
Speaker 3: you know had to play, yes, Uh, your decision to
Speaker 3: play guiton in bb ES. Right, so we're seeing that, Uh,
Speaker 3: you're seeing some cornerbacks that for better or for worse,
Speaker 3: you're finding out about him.
Speaker 5: See, this is the this is the thing is.
Speaker 7: Acuammell. Every time he's gotten in there, he's performed.
Speaker 5: To me. Now, it's just my limited knowledge.
Speaker 7: I got to talk to Church and a few other guys,
Speaker 7: but he seemed to have done better than the guys
Speaker 7: that have come before him, not name all pro guys
Speaker 7: you know digs in the and the other guy that's
Speaker 7: it's getting back well.
Speaker 3: And and when you like to have Jordan Lewis out
Speaker 3: there regardless.
Speaker 7: Yes, Jordan Lewis is the main state. But I'm saying
Speaker 7: the other corners. You know, these kids, Carson, I mean,
Speaker 7: you have done nothing as a coaching staff or a scheme.
Speaker 7: He has done nothing to build his confidences. It's like
Speaker 7: every time he gets in there, he's injured and things
Speaker 7: look bad for him, so his confidence got to be reached.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the words they regrown, re established,
Speaker 5: re established.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so so Makuamu. I don't know what keeps him
Speaker 7: off the field. Maybe it's some issues or learning issues.
Speaker 7: I don't know what keeps him off the field. But
Speaker 7: every time they put him in there, he seemed to
Speaker 7: come to play, So we're finding that out. But maybe
Speaker 7: it's something behind closed doors that we don't know about
Speaker 7: that keep him from from playing more.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see one year Thomas in the slot
Speaker 3: if Lewis can't play.
Speaker 5: You know, Uh, I don't. I don't know about brother
Speaker 5: Thomas either.
Speaker 7: I mean every year he start out at the top
Speaker 7: of the pecking order, I see him, as as the
Speaker 7: preseason go on, he get lost in the shuffle.
Speaker 5: So I have no answer you. I'll ask everything about that.
Speaker 3: Guy and the other other guy that they you know,
Speaker 3: used a lot last year, but in a different role.
Speaker 5: You're family guy, yeah.
Speaker 7: Who finally broke it, broke himself up on special teams U.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The thing is I understand what Zim is trying to do,
Speaker 7: and I understand what mister Jones is doing. And when
Speaker 7: you tell, excuse me, when you tell the owner slash
Speaker 7: GM president with however you want to state it, that
Speaker 7: this is my guy, we need to pay this guy,
Speaker 7: it's kind of hard for you to go back to
Speaker 7: that same ownersst GYM and say, well, I know what
Speaker 7: I told you about this guy, but we need to
Speaker 7: get him out of here. So now your head on
Speaker 7: the chopping block.
Speaker 4: Well, and the other part of it is it is
Speaker 4: a collaborative effort amongst the coaches, scouting department, front office,
Speaker 4: and so forth, where decisions have been made on who
Speaker 4: you're paying the money to. Yes, and so there's got
Speaker 4: to be reasons why you are making a change. We
Speaker 4: make the change, and so you've got to overcome that
Speaker 4: as a coach. And so Zimmer was not a part
Speaker 4: of the decision making process on several of those contracts
Speaker 4: in the secondary unless they happened here in the last
Speaker 4: six months. And so for even a veteran coach like him,
Speaker 4: he's got to when Ian makes a decision like that,
Speaker 4: it's got to be based on something. Yeah, well, whether
Speaker 4: it's an injury, whether it's poor play or something in
Speaker 4: so think think of it.
Speaker 3: This way some of the guys they brought in at
Speaker 3: the last minute, those veteran guys, Jordan Phillips.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you wouldn't do anything. They got rid of them.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: The thing is, Lynnville Joseph, did you see the snap
Speaker 3: counts for those guys on the off on the defensive
Speaker 3: line the last game? Okay, So, Gholston played ninety five
Speaker 3: percent of the snaps, so that means they don't really
Speaker 3: have somebody else in there to help out. Uh Osa
Speaker 3: played eighty nine percent at defensive tackle, which is a
Speaker 3: lot for a defensive tackle. Yeah, even Mazzi played forty
Speaker 3: three snaps sixty seven percent.
Speaker 4: And Micah was it ninety?
Speaker 5: Was that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And so these other guys, Lawson fifteen snaps, Lynnville Joseph twelve,
Speaker 3: Carlos Watkins ten. So that tells me you brought in
Speaker 3: these guys to help out, and they weren't all that
Speaker 3: you thought. So now they're playing these younger guys a
Speaker 3: heck of a lot more at those positions.
Speaker 7: What I'm trying to say is, and I'll be more specific,
Speaker 7: is number six Donovan Wilson is not a cover guy
Speaker 7: at all, but you gave him a lot of money.
Speaker 7: So even if coach Zim says, you know what, mister Jones,
Speaker 7: this guy cannot cover. I have to do this, this,
Speaker 7: and this collectively. As the words you use may not
Speaker 7: be good enough for missus jump. But hold on, noine,
Speaker 7: somebody got to come with a little better conversation than this.
Speaker 5: See you, When you pay a guy, you better cover
Speaker 5: all bases.
Speaker 7: And what I mean by that is you either keep
Speaker 7: the old coach that knew how to use in perfectly
Speaker 7: are you let the new coach do what he needed
Speaker 7: to do regardless of the price.
Speaker 5: And you can't be in between. This guy is not
Speaker 5: a cover guy.
Speaker 7: I could tell you what quarterbacks, especially when you get
Speaker 7: cross to twenty number twenty one, number six there they are.
Speaker 7: What plays do we do to get to them that
Speaker 7: that hurts your team? When you may can put.
Speaker 5: Young wait Thomas kid, put him in there.
Speaker 7: I'll put the other kid that we talked about now, Yeah.
Speaker 5: See that you know that one of the marshrooms.
Speaker 4: Though, like for number thirty one, ya Thomas, especially if
Speaker 4: you're talking about him as a slot guy, is we've
Speaker 4: never seen him play in the cover.
Speaker 3: In the slot. It's basically no, not the slot. He's
Speaker 3: basically been on the tight ends right when he's.
Speaker 5: And see the thing is next year, you you who
Speaker 5: the slate is clean.
Speaker 7: And what I mean by that is, I don't want
Speaker 7: coach McCarthy going, but the way things are sliding, it
Speaker 7: don't look nice for coach McCarthy.
Speaker 5: Well, the new coach.
Speaker 7: Ain't gonna You got to give him the ability to
Speaker 7: build this team or to look at this talent. So
Speaker 7: that's what you're doing this year, looking at this talent.
Speaker 7: He's gonna see Number six cannot cover. I don't care
Speaker 7: what you do, how you try, he cannot cover. They're
Speaker 7: gonna have to do something.
Speaker 4: Well, things changed in terms of who's getting opportunities this
Speaker 4: last game, and they're gonna continue to change, yes, because
Speaker 4: there's a certain point in the season, and it came
Speaker 4: basically last week. They got into a position where the
Speaker 4: odds of being able to really contend for a playoff
Speaker 4: spot are not good. And so that's when you see
Speaker 4: Ryan Fllinois getting more opportunities. And yeah, Jalen Brooks had
Speaker 4: at wide receiver, had been active in prior games, wasn't
Speaker 4: last week. They were making way for others to give
Speaker 4: them a shot at things. Same things happening on the
Speaker 4: defensive side. Now now that you're three and seven, Okay.
Speaker 3: Get bingo out there.
Speaker 5: You know, wide receivers.
Speaker 4: The thing that we need to break and we can
Speaker 4: bunch you. How about we tease it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, okay.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, Daniel Jones will not be a
Speaker 4: part of that Giant's roster that's headed here to play.
Speaker 5: Righting news.
Speaker 4: It was the breaking news today. You could see that
Speaker 4: coming all week. Yeah, when you know, we've talked about
Speaker 4: it yesterday. I think it was he's got twenty three
Speaker 4: million dollar guarantee in his contract if he was healthy
Speaker 4: in March, so they weren't. They made the decision not
Speaker 4: to play him, and they signed a practice squad quarterback
Speaker 4: this week, Tim Boyle, So they had four on his roster.
Speaker 4: Yesterday he was lining up with a scout team Jersey
Speaker 4: on playing safety, and he had a press conference.
Speaker 3: Yes, why would they do that to him?
Speaker 4: You know what, I don't know that they are Maybe
Speaker 4: he wanted to you know what, I was thinking that
Speaker 4: I think it was a great play.
Speaker 3: By a should get released and well, and everybody knows now.
Speaker 4: Right, And I wouldn't be surprised if he went over
Speaker 4: and said, hey, i'll line he volunteered to do it,
Speaker 4: knowing that. Then he's doing a press conference later that day,
Speaker 4: which he said a great things during the press conference, right,
Speaker 4: and now he asked for his release, and he's getting
Speaker 4: his release. And by the way, there are teams in
Speaker 4: this league that are in playoff contention. That and now
Speaker 4: he's got a clear waivers but once which.
Speaker 2: Will which I don't think he'd get claimed.
Speaker 4: You think, no, he's dollars, he's well. And also it's
Speaker 4: just what's left on his contract this year, which I
Speaker 4: think might be fourteen million in base this year. Uh
Speaker 4: So he'll clear waivers and then there are teams and
Speaker 4: I'll throw out the Minnesota Vikings as a team that
Speaker 4: you know, they've got Sam Darnold and Donald has recently
Speaker 4: been throwing some picks. And there are teams that are
Speaker 4: in playoff contention that could use a veteran backup quarterback
Speaker 4: in case their starter goes down, and well somebody that
Speaker 4: there will be definitely be a market look at for him.
Speaker 3: Look at the team's backup quarterbacks. I'll guarantee you he's
Speaker 3: better than more than half of them.
Speaker 4: I think it will be a competitive market for him
Speaker 4: for teams that are headed for the playoffs this year
Speaker 4: looking for a backup quarterback Nate, and they can get
Speaker 4: him at the same money that Pittsburgh's paying Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5: This yere right? All right?
Speaker 4: Uh, there was something else you were going to next, Nate.
Speaker 5: I kind of forgot. I'm old, man, I'm old.
Speaker 7: My mind is shot that y'all brought to Daniel Jones thing.
Speaker 7: And I kind of wanted to laugh because, you know,
Speaker 7: caution fans. Remember now, three weeks ago, Daniel Jones won't
Speaker 7: good enough to take out your trash. Now he's now.
Speaker 4: He's got value.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now he's got all the value in the world.
Speaker 5: We got to remember the same way.
Speaker 7: You know, four weeks ago, h Cooper was the best
Speaker 7: thing in the world. Now, you know, you want to
Speaker 7: see Trey Lance.
Speaker 3: The best thing about being a backup quarterball, Yeah, as
Speaker 3: long as you don't.
Speaker 5: Have to play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, but he's better than most backup quarterback.
Speaker 5: All I want to say is this right here.
Speaker 7: They went out and tried to drift and failed miserably
Speaker 7: with their offensive line over the last six years they tried.
Speaker 5: You talk about the Giant Giants, they fell miserably.
Speaker 7: The only thing you had was Barkley saving this kid,
Speaker 7: and you let him walk.
Speaker 5: So I already knew that.
Speaker 7: You know, everybody knew that was the end of Daniel
Speaker 7: Jones because now the asset that he had in his
Speaker 7: legs is the only asset that he has now. And
Speaker 7: he scared the runner because he don't want to re
Speaker 7: injure himself. So everything about the Giants organization that I
Speaker 7: used to admire, Man, I'm telling you, losing can take
Speaker 7: you down a bad It can put you in a
Speaker 7: bad spot. And they're losing over the years of putting
Speaker 7: the Giants in a bad spot. And so that's that's
Speaker 7: why I say, you try to control the narrative. You
Speaker 7: don't want to go through this a long time. Your
Speaker 7: fans don't deserve it as hard as a type, especially
Speaker 7: a homie like me, to try to find something every day.
Speaker 7: I mean, I depend on you build a lot, you know.
Speaker 7: I depend on Shannon on the other show a lot
Speaker 7: to bring something new to the table, you know, because
Speaker 7: talking about losing.
Speaker 4: Let me bring this to the table. Last night in
Speaker 4: that Pittsburgh game, you saw Russell Wilson in the game,
Speaker 4: and then you saw after it started snowing, justin Fields
Speaker 4: came in the game, added a little run element because
Speaker 4: they needed it at that point. So going forward with
Speaker 4: this Cowboys team in the quarterback situation, and it's been
Speaker 4: talked about from Jerry Jones to Mike McCarthy to Brian
Speaker 4: Schottenheimer about packages that could be in place for Trey
Speaker 4: Lance even with Cooper Rush as a quarterback. Can something
Speaker 4: work along those lines going forward the last seven games
Speaker 4: of the season where you could have a dual quarterback
Speaker 4: situation here.
Speaker 3: At all, I think at least the next two games
Speaker 3: you put a package together for him to put him
Speaker 3: in there and change it up. Let him use his legs,
Speaker 3: let him run.
Speaker 4: Gives a defense, a different look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because else to think about and something asked to
Speaker 3: uh to uh take up time the next week practicing
Speaker 3: to prepare for it.
Speaker 7: Whatever you do, make it definite for Trey Lance. You
Speaker 7: know you, I don't want to see this kid play.
Speaker 7: But if you're going to play him, you you run
Speaker 7: pass option. It's either there's you either.
Speaker 5: Can throw it or you take off.
Speaker 4: You're simplifying it.
Speaker 5: Do not give him multiple reads.
Speaker 7: No, no, I'm not a quarterback coach, and I don't understand.
Speaker 5: All the interest you know, intricacies. I don't understand all
Speaker 5: of those.
Speaker 7: I don't understand all of those because it even harmed
Speaker 7: me to say that word. But don't get his do
Speaker 7: multiple options when he whenever you know what burns me
Speaker 7: when I hear people say, well, guess what. He ain't
Speaker 7: played this in college, He ain't played this in with
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers. Okay, if he ain't did all
Speaker 7: of this, why would you give him multiple options? Give
Speaker 7: him something definite? Right, this is either here, this is
Speaker 7: either here takeoff son.
Speaker 4: And it could so this could be and I'm not
Speaker 4: just talking the next two games. People want to say, well,
Speaker 4: just give him the full bload. At a certain point
Speaker 4: this season. Ready, you're it's the best interest.
Speaker 5: Of him quarterback team is.
Speaker 4: Also becomes the best interest of this team. You can
Speaker 4: use these last seven games you try to figure out
Speaker 4: the best way to get Trey Lance in position where
Speaker 4: he can be in consideration to be this team's backup
Speaker 4: quarterback next season going forward. Well, a new contract.
Speaker 7: Well because the reason I know it can be done
Speaker 7: because when I talked to Isaiah's stand back and he
Speaker 7: was telling me about the kid, that's what Pittsburgh to
Speaker 7: back up now justin field, they I asked, I said,
Speaker 7: I said, is it a lot to what they said?
Speaker 5: Man, he did un dumbing it down.
Speaker 7: They put it to a point where less than college. Son,
Speaker 7: this is what it is. You either can do this
Speaker 7: or you can't do this. If you can't do this
Speaker 7: right here, you really don't need to be in the league.
Speaker 7: They can do that for him because he's number one,
Speaker 7: a great athlete. That's the advantage of being a great athlete.
Speaker 7: Now he may not have the experience of the technical
Speaker 7: knowledge right now or the intellect right now to read
Speaker 7: multiple things, but this is what you do. That's what
Speaker 7: they do in college, and that's what psych out guys,
Speaker 7: when they gets your pro life in college, he did
Speaker 7: what No, it was this athletic ability that did all
Speaker 7: of this out here is a bit more with these
Speaker 7: grown men.
Speaker 5: But just one or two things do this? Do this?
Speaker 3: Either takeoff and if you think about it, after Thanksgiving,
Speaker 3: Now they don't do anything Friday, Saturday, Sunday after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: But the next game is a Monday night game. So
Speaker 3: now you've got nine eight or nine days.
Speaker 5: And Eric, but I mean.
Speaker 7: When they get punished, if there's a son, we're trying
Speaker 7: to put something together, can you come in on extra
Speaker 7: can you give us some extra time with that?
Speaker 5: With the league punish them for accident? They can't.
Speaker 4: They can't ast that. Yeah, now, but players on their
Speaker 4: own can do whatever whatever they Technically they can't. Technically
Speaker 4: you're unable to be working with coaches in an environment.
Speaker 4: That's why you have training camp. Ever, at training camp,
Speaker 4: but remember remember the hours yet but remember at training camp,
Speaker 4: they get on the bullhorn and they Cable would say
Speaker 4: coaches off the field. Coach just off the field, because
Speaker 4: there's only a certain number of hours during the day
Speaker 4: that coaches can work with players.
Speaker 7: But if I'm but a player can go to the
Speaker 7: coach side and need help, and then that knocked that
Speaker 7: that knocks the rule out. So if I'm that kid,
Speaker 7: I'm going to the coach because if you putting packages
Speaker 7: in and I understand what you're trying to do, the
Speaker 7: more I can see it on fild, the more I
Speaker 7: can I can visualize it, the better off you're gonna be.
Speaker 7: He can play with the speed of the game as
Speaker 7: long as it's definite. You see that when even when
Speaker 7: they have him in practice, when he knows what to do,
Speaker 7: he's good.
Speaker 5: But when he has to sit there and things.
Speaker 4: And that's what you're saying is exactly what's been done
Speaker 4: with all the young quarterbacks come into the league every
Speaker 4: single year from Dak Prescott in twenty sixteen. Yes, Rock
Speaker 4: Purty with San Francisco the forty nine ers did the
Speaker 4: exact same thing. Russell Wilson with the Seahawks. The difference
Speaker 4: being for those quarterbacks is they had very good teams
Speaker 4: around them when they came in as rookie quarterbacks. C J.
Speaker 4: Stroud last year with the Texans that they had built
Speaker 4: that thing. Yeah, some veteran players around him. Nick Cassario.
Speaker 5: Pherson College plays that he did.
Speaker 4: They prepared the team for when they get that young
Speaker 4: quarterback coming in here. In contrast, Carolina hasn't been able
Speaker 4: to do that, and that's where Bryce Young has thrown
Speaker 4: to the Wolves and other quarterbacks who have come through there,
Speaker 4: from Baker Mayfield to Sam Darnold. They've never had that
Speaker 4: foundation built in Carolina for any quarterback, much less a
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback to come in there. And so that's where
Speaker 4: the Cowboys are right now, where due to the salary
Speaker 4: cap limitations and so forth, and how inexperienced an injury
Speaker 4: plague this team is right now, they have to simplify
Speaker 4: it even further for a young quarterback who doesn't have
Speaker 4: much experience.
Speaker 3: Well, look what Denver's doing now with Bonne.
Speaker 5: You know what you know? Don't bring that. That's a
Speaker 5: sore spot with me.
Speaker 3: Why is that.
Speaker 5: Coach has been there? How long? Sean Payton suck here?
Speaker 7: His first free agent signings were two offensive linemen, and.
Speaker 5: Everybody, what is he doing? Oh? What is he doing?
Speaker 5: He's building a team, right, so.
Speaker 7: When he gets a quarterback, it can be protected. So
Speaker 7: when y'all listen to the draft show and they not
Speaker 7: talking about offensive defensive lineman y'all need to call in.
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Speaker 5: I'm directing all the band something Nick I did yesterday.
Speaker 7: Call storyline and complain Nick eat all right, we got.
Speaker 4: Our picks to click and who wins on Sunday at
Speaker 4: Washington continues at the moment.
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Speaker 5: But I will say this.
Speaker 7: We was discussing off air quickly that Mick said that
Speaker 7: if they domb it down too far, they will get
Speaker 7: you know, they will be able to read and uh Nia, yeah,
Speaker 7: negate what this kid can do. But when the stealers
Speaker 7: knew that too when they was doing Jaspha. But once
Speaker 7: you don't. Once you stop him from running, which you
Speaker 7: either got to bring up a spy or you got
Speaker 7: to bring up an extra guy, then his reads become
Speaker 7: it should become a little bit clearer.
Speaker 5: So it's just stair stepping. It's all about stair stepping.
Speaker 7: If you said off air in training camp, he got
Speaker 7: the way he was staring down his guys, Well, he
Speaker 7: got the way he was staring down his guys because uh,
Speaker 7: they was telling him, throw to this guy, throw to
Speaker 7: this guy.
Speaker 5: Well, it's up to him to do that extra film.
Speaker 7: So that's why I ask you, guys, is it a
Speaker 7: problem with him going to the coach saying, hey, coach,
Speaker 7: let's go over this again. And if this happened, what
Speaker 7: can I look for? You know, I don't know how
Speaker 7: he learns, you know, whether he's a he can visualize things,
Speaker 7: whether he got to look at film before he see it,
Speaker 7: whether he got to get on the field and see it.
Speaker 7: I don't know how he learned. But you have to
Speaker 7: try to cover every base, especially when you're talking about
Speaker 7: a quarterback.
Speaker 5: You got to try to cover every base.
Speaker 7: And if you're gonna play this kid, which I don't
Speaker 7: want to see him play, you know, but if the
Speaker 7: fans and everybody need to see this guy play, you
Speaker 7: got to give him every opportunity and you got to
Speaker 7: help him every way you can. And if that's extra
Speaker 7: work taking the chance with the league coming after you,
Speaker 7: well do that extra work. But don't throw him out
Speaker 7: there and just get him killed.
Speaker 3: Right, No, No, I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 4: Okay, Mickey. On the injury report yesterday, as you know,
Speaker 4: ced Lamb was listed as a DNP did not participate
Speaker 4: in practice, like seeing that with a backslash foot injury.
Speaker 4: And Mike McCarthy has just had his conference call with
Speaker 4: the media. Okay, and you want to hear some breaking news.
Speaker 4: What's that Cowboys wide receivers ce D Lamb practice today?
Speaker 4: The expectation is that he will play Sunday.
Speaker 3: Well, it was a walk through.
Speaker 4: It's a walkthrough. But McCarthy did say that as long
Speaker 4: as he is good tomorrow, CD will play on Sunday
Speaker 4: against the Commanders.
Speaker 3: Did they say a thing about Trayvon Diggs who showed
Speaker 3: up as limited yesterday.
Speaker 4: I have not seen anything reported yet. I'm searching. Why
Speaker 4: don't we get started on our Okay, here we go.
Speaker 4: You get an update here from Nick Harris McCarthy said
Speaker 4: that Tyler Smith and Cede Lamb both practice today.
Speaker 5: There you go, is Zach awesome reaches.
Speaker 4: Zach Martin did not practice today, As McCarthy has said
Speaker 4: in the past, the Saturday practice will be big for
Speaker 4: Martin's availability. So and Mike McCarthy said that Deron Bland
Speaker 4: came out of practice pretty good yesterday, went through everything
Speaker 4: in today's walkthrough. Well you hope.
Speaker 3: So I just think there's I tik my hand on
Speaker 3: picks to click or whatever. But you don't know for
Speaker 3: sure about Bland. It seems optimistic, right. You don't know
Speaker 3: for sure about Tyler Smith. He didn't practice the first
Speaker 3: two days, right, Zach Martin looks like they may be
Speaker 3: given him a game, but you don't know. Marshawn Neeland
Speaker 3: practiced on a limited basis, but he hadn't played in
Speaker 3: a month or so, so you don't know there if
Speaker 3: he's coming back. I feel kind of good that Randy
Speaker 3: Cooks is gonna make it back, just talking to him.
Speaker 3: But as you know Nate and the same thing with
Speaker 3: like Jordan Lewis. Players never say they can't play right.
Speaker 3: Somebody tells them you're not up by the way they've practiced.
Speaker 3: So there just seems to be so many things that
Speaker 3: are uncertain going into this game, and uncertain with very
Speaker 3: valuable and necessary players. It's just kind of a cloud
Speaker 3: hanging over this team.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, if the Cowboys have.
Speaker 7: Twenty five minutes laid in the fourth quarter of a
Speaker 7: town possession, that can win this game. Because every team
Speaker 7: that has dominated the Redskins have had thirty two minutes
Speaker 7: plus of time possession. They've ran the ball at least
Speaker 7: forty times. Those are the last two losses. Both teams
Speaker 7: ran the ball at least four these times, Pittsburgh for
Speaker 7: one hundred and forty yards, the Eagles for two hundred
Speaker 7: and twenty eight yards five point two avers. So if
Speaker 7: we can find a way to run the ball, and
Speaker 7: those are the packages that I'm hoping that they would
Speaker 7: give this kid, Trey Lance, some packages where just run
Speaker 7: option pass and now you got to deal with that.
Speaker 7: You got to deal with that, and especially with your
Speaker 7: offensive line beat up the way they are right, you
Speaker 7: do not want, please, please, if somebody can blast us out.
Speaker 7: You do not want passing situations in this game like
Speaker 7: thrown that will we will see Trey if he throw
Speaker 7: that ball forty five times. You will see Trey Lance
Speaker 7: the rest of the season because Dante Fowler, Frankie Louver,
Speaker 7: Jonathan Allen, they Jonathan Duran, Duran Pay, they will feast. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm letting y'all know that cannot happen. That cannot happen.
Speaker 3: That would be capital punishment.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, on that kid Cooper rush Man, that cannot happen.
Speaker 7: CD come on back and hppen.
Speaker 4: Okay, So let's make our picks here in picks to click?
Speaker 4: Is you got the Cowboys by one?
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I got Cowboys if they if they have
Speaker 7: if they leave with thirty three minutes.
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's your pick to click. Time of possession
Speaker 4: is your click?
Speaker 5: Yes? Like that.
Speaker 3: I tried to convince myself that, uh, the only teams
Speaker 3: uh Washington is beaten are the ones with losing records,
Speaker 3: and they've lost the teams with winning records. But with
Speaker 3: the uncertainty on this roster going into the game, if
Speaker 3: I knew for sure all these guys were gonna play,
Speaker 3: but I don't so I Commander's twenty four seventeen, Okay.
Speaker 4: I will take you back to nineteen ninety and the
Speaker 4: Cowboys were three and seven that season.
Speaker 3: It's eight fair nineteen everything.
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety the Cowboys were three and seven. Yes, they
Speaker 4: had quarterback born on November twenty first, playing against Washington,
Speaker 4: and they beat Washington twenty seven seventeen. This year they've
Speaker 4: got a three and seven record. They got a quarterback
Speaker 4: born on November twenty first, Cooper Rush, starting against the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: It was twenty seven seventeen and nineteen ninety, or you
Speaker 4: can go to nineteen ninety one, and it was a
Speaker 4: Cowboys team with a backup quarterback named Steve Berline that
Speaker 4: goes into Washington on November twenty fourth, nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 4: Win of the Cowboys playing Washington on November twenty fourth,
Speaker 4: two thy twenty four, back quarterback Cooper Rush plays homage
Speaker 4: to Steve Berline, who's up in the broadcast booth? Right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: the game, Yes, Burline's in the broadcast booth, and the Cowboys,
Speaker 4: just like on November twenty fourth, nineteen ninety one, beat
Speaker 4: Washington twenty four to twenty one. Thank you, There you go.
Speaker 3: Except he had a a deal last week, going back
Speaker 3: to history, and it didn't quite work out.
Speaker 4: How was the seven field goal game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll work this week.
Speaker 4: Okay, one of these weeks, it's gonna work.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 3: They I predicted five field goals. They should have had three.
Speaker 3: If they'd stayed closed, they might have kicked two malls.
Speaker 4: You have to get in field goal position, even if
Speaker 4: even if you can kick sixty four yarders, you had
Speaker 4: to get in position to kick the sixty four yarders
Speaker 4: to get seven of them.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe the key thing for the Commanders are uh,
Speaker 3: they changed donors, they changed general managers, they changed coaches,
Speaker 3: and I didn't rely they changed the name of the
Speaker 3: stadium too.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the name of the stadium is.
Speaker 3: It's Northwest Stadium.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 3: They the bank or something maybe, but here it is
Speaker 3: Northwest Stadium.
Speaker 4: So are we going to Seattle to player? We going
Speaker 4: to DC to play?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 4: It's the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a new sponsor.
Speaker 5: The pick time of position?
Speaker 4: Oh uh, time of possession for you? And my pick
Speaker 4: to click obviously is Cooper Rush. And they're going to
Speaker 4: pull a Steave Berline and win this.
Speaker 3: And if the Cowboys are gonna pull this out, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna keep going with the guy that keeps scoring touchdowns
Speaker 3: when the Cowboys can't score touchdowns. Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 4: Okay, there you go, all right, enjoy the game on
Speaker 4: Sunday and we will shout at you again on Monday
Speaker 4: at noon.
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