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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Dat you'll please for all these pros.

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Speaker 3: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers abound,

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Speaker 3: stop it. What's up you guys?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into Iheartrady's official wrestling podcast, The Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 1: What is going on in his battle alongside my tag

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Speaker 1: team partner Eli, and of course WWE is rolling in town,

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati and the Sacramento. Of course, you can grab

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Speaker 1: your tickets online now WWE dot com or ticketmaster dot com.

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Speaker 1: Today on the show, a man who everybody knows, a

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Speaker 1: man who everybody loves to hate except for us.

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Speaker 3: We don't hate him on the show.

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Speaker 1: We love him on the show.

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Speaker 3: Grayson Waller Joyce, who wow.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a real pleasure to be here. You both

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Speaker 4: of you couldn't look more like wrestling fans if you tried.

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Speaker 4: You look like every bloke in the front row of

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Speaker 4: the shows.

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Speaker 3: So this is this feels normal for me. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know what, we.

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Speaker 1: Got to be a mark on the show for sure,

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Speaker 1: because we're we're fans, are pro wrestling. That's why we

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Speaker 1: do the show.

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Speaker 3: But I want to say, I know, brother, you didn't

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Speaker 3: have to tell me. I can tell hey, you know what,

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Speaker 3: we We.

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Speaker 1: Actually had one of your friends on earlier that you

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of beef with Penta came on

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Speaker 1: he's he had some not so nice things to say

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Speaker 1: about you. But we all save that for another day.

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Speaker 1: I want I want to go back for a quick

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Speaker 1: second a viral moment on social media that involved you, Uh,

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Speaker 1: You're at a meet and greet with those two kids

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Speaker 1: and you say something. Next thing you know, they start

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Speaker 1: just slapping each other. What's going through your head in

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Speaker 1: that moment?

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Speaker 4: We know that was for We did a bit of

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Speaker 4: media at a at a tryout, so you know, obviously

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Speaker 4: you know you got Shawn Michael's rear riply, Chelsea Graham've

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Speaker 4: got a good little squad there, and these poor kids,

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Speaker 4: you know they love wrestling, but you know, sitting through

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Speaker 4: an our Q and A with all of us, you know,

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Speaker 4: for five six year old kids, you know, they've got

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Speaker 4: a lot of energy.

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Speaker 3: So I was just trying to have a little bit

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Speaker 4: Forget you know, five and six year olds are pretty

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Speaker 4: susceptible to anything you say in doing it immediately, so

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a good scrap the lad.

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Speaker 3: On the left. You know, he could probably work on

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Speaker 3: like on his left hand.

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Speaker 4: It probably wasn't where it needed to be, but you know,

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Speaker 4: they've they've got time to kind of improve a little bit.

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Speaker 4: It reminded me of being an NXT. You know, there

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Speaker 3: Of their strikes, they could be big things one day. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I remember watching the video and just everybody's reaction around

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Speaker 1: and you're just like, fight, fight, fight, fight fight.

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Speaker 3: And it was good too, you know, I was. I

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Speaker 4: I didn't think they were going to go probably take

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Speaker 4: it as far as they did, but uh, what can

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Speaker 4: you do.

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Speaker 3: They're not my kids.

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Speaker 4: I am stressed.

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Speaker 3: Right there, you go, there you go.

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Speaker 2: You know, Fancy, you're one of the easiest guys to

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Speaker 2: dislike in WW which is honestly a huge compliment. You know,

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Speaker 2: in your line of work, do you ever do you

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Speaker 2: ever think about where the line is between good heat

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't sound necessarily think about it, but I do

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Speaker 3: You know, every influencer boxing.

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Speaker 4: If you ever see those social media guys, they say

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Speaker 4: Like you can just feel how faked is the whole time.

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Speaker 4: With me, I'm just being realistic when I say these

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Speaker 4: But I do think there is definitely a line where

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Speaker 4: that's not something that we do. But I see a

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Speaker 4: We're very good at what we do of like making sure,

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Speaker 3: Fun with it and the fans are having fun.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't really care if the fans are having fun,

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Speaker 4: but my boss is going to be upset if they're not.

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Speaker 3: So you know, you kind of got to think about

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people like to compare you

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Speaker 1: to Logan Paul on social media. Confident, cocky, but you

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Speaker 1: Do you take that as as flattery or do you

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Speaker 4: I would never say that if you're compared to Logan Paul.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that is a negative at all. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: everything Logan's done instid a short amount of time is

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Speaker 3: Look at everything he does outside of the w WE.

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Speaker 4: and I'm someone when I was in NXT, I actually

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Speaker 4: But I could tell that day like he genuinely cares

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Speaker 4: Do you actually care about this? Do you actually want

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Speaker 4: Trying to get eyes on you? He trying to just

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Speaker 4: do think I set myself apart from Logan in a

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Speaker 4: Logan's an in and out kind of guy, but that's

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Speaker 4: I think that's where we differ. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you mentioned when it comes to celebrities. You

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And I'll say I think Logan Pole ruined celebrity

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Speaker 3: So, you know, we had certain people who it's more

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Speaker 4: You know, you get these some of these college athletes

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Speaker 3: So no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: You have to understand Logan did that because he's a

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Speaker 3: He was doing everything that we do.

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Speaker 4: So if someone's willing to put themselves through where we

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Speaker 4: But if they just want to come in and get

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing you know, so many of your fellow countrymen

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Speaker 4: I think Sean and XT know, hey, if we want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, for sure, something really cool as wrestling fans

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Speaker 1: one of those stills feel surreal when you look back

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Speaker 1: from it. And how do you keep yourself from, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? For me, I ended in my fan card the

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Speaker 4: That I don't want to get it in there and

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Speaker 3: I don't think that allows you to be your best.

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Speaker 4: So for me personally, the way I show respect to

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Speaker 4: these legends is I want to get that photo in

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Speaker 4: the ring with me slapping you in the face.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the best way to get a photos.

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Speaker 3: That's what I have on my wall. But especially for me,

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Speaker 4: We've seen her a couple of times, especially now that

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Speaker 4: So we took a risk.

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Speaker 3: Dude, the travel sucks. The travelers is horrendous.

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Speaker 3: Just to get us all there at the right time.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know our time is coming to an end

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Speaker 1: If we were to scroll through Grayson Waller's playlist, is

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Speaker 1: to this. What is that song on your playlist?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: I do have a very eclectic taste in music, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, if I'm running, I got a little bit different.

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Speaker 4: I do enjoy musicals here and there. A little bit

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Speaker 3: I'm trying.

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Speaker 4: The Greatest Showman is also a bit of a bang,

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Speaker 4: you know, Hugh Jackman. Yeah, fellows trying so I can

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Speaker 1: Well, I know our time is limited here with you, Grayson.

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Speaker 1: Last question I have for you. I got a friend

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Speaker 3: Is in Philly. He's a big Eagles fan.

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Speaker 1: Are you He wants to know, are you a real

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Speaker 4: See, it's very disrespectful when people call out my Eagles fandom.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was playing Madden with Donovan McNabb when I.

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Speaker 3: That kind of jumped me into the Eagles fandom.

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Speaker 4: Unlike Cody Roadse who decided to go for the Eagles

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Speaker 3: I'm a real Eagles fan, you know, and so I'm

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Speaker 4: They've got Jake Browning at quarterbacks, so they're probably in

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Speaker 4: more of entertainment, a little bit enjoyment. That's what WWE

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Speaker 4: presents us, well, Grayson Waller presents. We go to these places,

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, absolutely for sure. Well, Grayson, it's an

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Speaker 1: Last thing before we let you go, anything you want

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Speaker 4: You know a lot of people have a lot of

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Speaker 4: but here's your opportunity to stay it in person. You know,

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Speaker 4: coming up, we got smacked down at the Frost Bank

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Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want and I'm happy to listen.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm going to be happy to talk back to you, so,

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