WEBVTT - Fisting For Compliments 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.800 Hey, viewers, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:08.119 queer sex. Filter dirty words and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:12.360 If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.960 offends your sensibilities, you might want to skip this Viewer 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.880 discretion is advised. It's definitely not for kids. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.360 Put jo pussy up, put your put your pussy up, 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.000 Put your pussy up, Put put your pussy up. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.400 Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. I'm Gabelon Sadez and. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.480 I'm christotison Rosso. Each week we explore the sublime world 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.560 of queer sex, cruising, and relationships. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.680 We talk to queer folks of all kinds. We'll ask 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.600 some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations, and provide 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.640 practical advice that you can use at home. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.840 Joy, Put Joe, pussy, put Joe, put put your put, 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:49.559 put your put. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:50.960 Listeners. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.480 Today, we're going deep, elbow deep, right beyond the knuckle, 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.120 So whip out the X lube and get the puppy pads. 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.880 Ready because this episode is all about fisting. Game. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:06.080 That was a very loaded transition. I'm really excited to hear, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.280 what's your experience with fisting? Not much. I'll tell you 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:14.400 that I've tried it. I have told I am an 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.000 ideal size for fisting. Okay, people look at my height 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.040 and they're like, would you fist me? And I'm like, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.960 ninety nine percent of the time, the answer is no, 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.800 It personally does very little for me. I'm not that 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.680 interested in it. I did you still Look up with 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.760 this guy when I first moved to New York and 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:31.759 he was like, Hey, I want to ask you something. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.960 He was like, super shy about it, but he wanted 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.200 me to fist him, and I didn't know what that 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.040 entailed at all. Yeah, So he sent me home with homework. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.440 He gave me a book on fisting, and he was like, 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.800 read this and if you think you'd be interested in 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.840 doing it to me, come back and we can do it. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:47.880 I was like, all right, And I read the book 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.080 and I learned a lot of things that would have 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.680 terrified me if I'd gone into fisting. So there's like 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.720 a whole section in the book that talked about what 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.160 happens once you go beyond the knuckle uh huh, that 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:57.840 like the body just kind of sucks. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.920 The rest of your army. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.240 That is correct, and I'm like, that is exactly what happened, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.520 and it is very unsettling. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:06.120 It is. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.000 It felt like something out of alien, you know what 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.280 I mean. It was like and it made a sound. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.040 Yeah, it was wild. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.680 So again, I'm really glad that I read up before 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.359 doing that. I think I did it more because I 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.520 was into him, but it felt less for me. Okay, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.840 it felt very much for him. Wow, Okay, we are 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.880 so different. Yeah, because your eyes are telling me that 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.560 you have a story you did definitely like to share. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.280 Yeah. I mean I fisted someone for the first time 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:33.160 when I was sixteen. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:33.919 Oh my god. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.920 I didn't even know how anal sex worked at sixteen. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.440 No, I entered like a craigsist ad and he like 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:41.880 asked me if I would be into it, and I 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.919 did not know what he was talking about, and he said, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.640 don't worry, I'll show you. And like I showed up 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.160 and there was, you know, a man and a container 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.280 of crisco where old school, old school. Yeah, and that 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.079 sort of started me on my fist and journey and 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.200 I've been doing it ever since. So was that a 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.799 positive experience? I mean, you were clearly too. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.600 Young to be doing that, but like, was it a yeah? 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:07.799 I mean yes, yes, well well yes yeah. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.359 But I I love it. I think it's one of 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.639 the like most intimate acts you can engage with sexually. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.480 I truly enjoy it. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.840 Is this like the regular part of your sexual practice 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.200 or is it like depending on the partner? 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.040 I have no idea. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.799 Chris, you contain multitudes. I do multitude, But fair, you're 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.440 the fister. I'm the fister, okay, top I see and 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:31.680 I have massive hands. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.679 Yeah you do. I know. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.160 I feel like I'm the beginning. I'm like the training 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.839 dildo and you're the like literally not for the novice. Yeah. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.480 If you've listened to our show for the past two seasons, 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.040 you've heard us deep dive on lots of kings and fetishes, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.680 from puppy play to chastity to wrestling. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.720 But fisting seems to be one of the biggest fetishes 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.320 in the queer community, and as years go by, it 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.200 just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.960 With fisting videos all over Gagewitter, Fitzfluencer's pushing prolapsed dildos, 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.360 and more and more young people getting into it. It's 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.480 almost like we're approaching fisting's total crossover from kink to 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:06.360 common practice. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.120 In this episode, we're going to talk to one of 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.320 our favorite sex writers, the incredible Alex Cheves, who first 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.840 gained a following as a sex writer dolling out advice 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.240 for The Advocate. In twenty twenty one, he published his 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.280 debut memoir, My Love Is a Beast Confessions, where he 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:24.160 talks with a raw, poetic honesty about his sexual awakenings, fisting, kink, 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.480 sex work, HIV, and so much more. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.799 Please welcome to Snippy's Cruising Confessions. Alex Chevez. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.080 Alex welcome, Thank you for being here, Thank you for 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.880 having me, Thank you so much for calling in. For 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.360 listeners who don't know, Alex is calling in from Berlin, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.240 the kinky sex capital of Europe. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.560 In the sex capital of the world. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.000 I would say, so this might not be the case 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.119 in Germany, given that you are the kinky sex capital 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.720 of the world. Correct, But I feel like I have seen, 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.520 at least anecdotally, in the US a lot more people 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.120 talking about fisting. Do you think fisting is having a 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.000 moment right now? 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:57.000 Is she the it girl? 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:58.840 Fisting? Is the it girl? It? 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.360 Fisters talk about fisting Twitter It is the phenomenon in 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.720 the fisting world, and I think it's been the it 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.320 girl for a little bit now. If anything, I feel 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.240 like we're on our way out of fisting Twitter. But fisting, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.160 I think in a few years is going to be 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.000 a whole generation of fisters who met each other through 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.440 Twitter because for whatever reason, it was one of those 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.760 lanes of sex content on Twitter that just really created 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:30.080 a tight community. Were not that type, but I'm just exploded. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.560 It was one of those kinks that really took off 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.279 in the era of social media. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.279 It is interesting that you mentioned Twitter because I feel 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.039 like that site was one of the few social media 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.440 sites that did not censor sexual content. And even on 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.560 sites like OnlyFans, I believe things like fisting are still 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.040 not allowed to be distributed or shown platforms. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.160 That's why I got kicked off of Only Fans way. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:52.920 Yeah, I put fisting videos on there and I didn't 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.400 know the rules, and they like, sorry, you can't do this. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.280 Do they have customer service? Can you call it and 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:59.960 be like, my fisting videos are taken down? 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:00.640 Yeah? 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.960 So a lot goes into shaping what you're into. Are 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.080 there any parts of your life that made you gravitating 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:07.760 towards fisting. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.280 Yeah, it's not exciting. I found fisting the way a 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.200 lot of people did my age is through porn. And crucially, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.480 for a long time, fisting lived in the avenue of 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.600 things that I was never interested in actually doing. And 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.400 I think a lot of people have those things, right, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.919 You have these kinks that you might watch, but are 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.599 things that you're never really interested in actually living out. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.400 And for years, actually. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.560 Fisting was always this like, oh, look at this cool 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.719 thing online, but I never wanted it to be part 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.240 of my life. I never once took the steps of 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.120 like training and finding a regular fisting playmate. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:40.120 It just kind of happened. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.039 And then once that happened, I was like, oh, okay, 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.640 now I'm into fisting, Like, now I'm real I do it. 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:46.880 And what was it about that experience that made you 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.200 jump headfirst into it? 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:49.400 That first experience was. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.599 It fulsome It was with one of these amazing dumbs 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.520 that just I never once said I was into fisting. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.800 I never once expressed interest. But after a nice long session, 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.400 he just knew. He just knew when to put loub 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.600 on his hand and slide it in, and it was 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.080 amazing how he could just tell and he could read 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.760 my body and it happened without any dialogue, any communication. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.360 Now to clarify, that's not what I tell other people 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.400 to do, and that's not whatever to say, Like, that's 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.400 like I would tell everybody to, you know, communicate, talk 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.680 to somebody, train, carefully, use toys. Like I don't think 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.600 that the way that I got into fisting is necessarily 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.360 a way that I would prescribe other people to get 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:29.880 into fisting. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.600 Just to put that out there, Yeah, I mean that 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:36.080 seems kind of as a person who's like intofisting, like 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.840 that feels I don't want to say crazy, but like 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.320 I don't know, you're just sort of like it just 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.440 sort of happened one day, you know. But I do understand, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.760 like as a fitting top, Like do understand being able 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.320 to read someone's body and knowing when they're ready for it, 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:52.560 because the body will tell you. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.920 The body will tell you yeah, and my body was 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.160 just like read, let's go. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.520 Was it kind of tricky for you to get into 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.080 the rhythm of it at first? 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.320 No, I found it very difficult. And I think a 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.680 lot of first time fisters run into this issue where 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.520 I have my first experience it's a ton of fun. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.800 I love it, I want to do it again. And then, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.560 for the first time ever, I have to start communicating 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.160 this to potential partners. And it was actually quite difficult 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.320 from that point on because there seemed to be a 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:24.440 strange resistance to playing with a beginner, and I talk 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.640 to a lot of beginners now and that seems to 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.640 still be the case, which is really unfortunate. And I 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.120 feel like sometimes fisting Twitter and fisting media exacerbates this 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.439 problem that we as a community tend to kind of 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.199 prioritize very advanced bodies and very advanced tolls, and we 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.920 don't necessarily make enough space for the beginners. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.160 I mean, I think, as a fisting top who like 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:49.240 we want, I have really big hands, and so beginners 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.920 aren't always my favorite because the time commitment portion of 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.079 it I don't always have. And it's not because I'm 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.400 not interested in helping someone learn and grow. It's just 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.079 because it's like I've only got two hours on a Wednesday. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.480 There actually are guys out there who really erotically enjoy 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.559 the process of training and working somebody open, and that's 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.679 the dream, right, Like, if you're a beginner, you kind 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.199 of want to find these guys that like opening a 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.560 new butt is kind of their fetish. So I would 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.520 tell everybody to maybe make that your focus in the beginning, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.760 because yeah, I've trained beginner bottoms too, and they're always like, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.960 I'm gonna come over on Tuesday and I'm gonna take 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.160 my first fist today and I'm like, Babe, I don't 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:30.720 know how to tell you this, but it's not gonna 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.520 happen the first time we try it. It's not gonna 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.120 happen the first three times we try it. And that 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.960 is that is a huge commitment. That's a big time commitment. Yeah, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.439 I'm in New Yorker, I've got things to do. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.280 Yeah, she's a busy girl. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:43.320 She's a busy girl. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.360 She's only got time for fingers today. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:45.760 Sorry. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:46.360 Yeah. Right. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.680 So then what does that kind of entail? What should 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.280 people expect if they're kind of starting out. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.040 I think most people go to toys, and that's my 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.480 advice to most people training or just starting out. One 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.720 thing I commonly tell people is that you don't advance 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.160 as fister with fists. You advance through toy play and 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.080 solo sessions, because it's really about learning your own body 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.559 and how something just feels up there. It sounds very unsexy, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:11.679 but you do have to kind of treat it like 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:15.079 a gym membership, like once a week, I'm gonna sit 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.560 on this butt plug and go really slow and use 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:18.559 lots of lube. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.160 And make it sort of my solo time. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.079 And you do kind of have to keep a schedule, 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.920 like if you're really seriously training, some people say you 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.959 should be doing some ass play once a week, some 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.200 people say it a couple times a week. I would 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.960 say at least every two weeks. You're not necessarily fisting 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.400 with other people every time. In fact, most of those 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.719 times should be solo and with yourself, And that's what 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:38.640 I recommend people do. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:39.360 That's what I did. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.520 Did you have a mentor to sort of help you 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:42.720 along in this process? 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:47.520 Actually, I just met fisting friends fisting sisters. Yes, yeah, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.240 and we're still really close because of it. Like, if 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.319 you're starting off as a fist bottom, your best friends 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.080 are other fist bottoms who can tell you toy recommendations 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.839 and their favorite lube. And yeah, it's like little things 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.040 like that that you don't really think about that you 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.160 need other bottoms to coach you through. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.360 Now We've talked a bit about fisting bottoms, but I'm 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.000 wondering if you have any advice for first time fisting tops. 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.120 I feel like the conception for a lot of fisting 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.400 tops is like, oh, well, you just throw some glub 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.040 on your hand and like slowly slide in and you're good. Right, Like, 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.599 what do fisting tops need to know and what do 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:21.920 they need to be bringing to the table. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.800 The saying in the fisting community is the best tops 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.199 or verse guys or you know, former bottoms. I've known 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.240 some tops that are very, very naturally skilled tops that 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.560 have never taken a fist or aren't interested in taking 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.440 a fist themselves and not interested in bottoming, but they 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.280 are rarer. I think every top could benefit from at 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.839 least trying to bottom a little bit, because otherwise you 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.920 don't really know where you're going and how it feels. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.640 And I became a better top after I had been 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.800 fisting for years, and now I'm very very verse, and 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.800 I fist top just as much as fist bottom. Now, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.360 if you're just starting off and you're not interested in bottoming, 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.439 I'd say learn from a very experienced fist botto and 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.640 ask questions and ask what feels good and it's okay 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.160 to do kind of a clinical training session. I've done 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.079 that with beginner tops sore. I've been like, look, this 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.120 isn't going to be sexy. This might not be the 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.319 hottest session you ever have, but like, I'm going to 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:14.920 go through the steps and be like, here's how you 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.319 mix the lube, here's how you lay down blankets, and 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.000 then I'll literally like do a diagram of my hand 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.120 and I'll be like, okay, you start this way, and 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.280 then it's just stop, go, stop, go, kind of traffic 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.680 light telling him when to push forward, when to pull back. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.200 And it's not a sexy session, but it is how 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.840 you train somebody to top. And I think every aspiring 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.800 fistop needs a few sessions like that. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:42.000 So what feels good about fisting? In your own words? 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.360 So, I can't explain the pleasure behind it except that 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.160 it's the best orgasm I can feel. It's the greatest 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:50.880 physical pleasure I can experience. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:52.040 And I don't know why. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.560 Now there is something about watching someone get fisted and. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.720 You're getting lost in the visual Right now now I am. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.040 I'm thinking about the last time I fisted behind and 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.880 I see it with you. It was truly magical and 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.800 just watching that look on their face and like the 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.080 pleasure that their body is receiving, it is like top tier. 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:16.240 It's magic. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.520 We You can also have an anal orgasm, right, Yes, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.760 I think I don't know if I've ever ejaculated from fisting, 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.560 but I've had like a full body shaking anal orgasm. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.640 Yeah, that's the whole New world. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.720 Orgasms are kind of the best thing out there. Honestly, 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.600 They're really because you can have like multiple of them, 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.839 you can have back to back, and like it took 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.600 me a long time to experience one. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.720 And actually the first time I had an anal orgasm 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.960 was at a big group fisting party where they were 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.800 like fifteen slings set up and I swear it sounded 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.760 like somebody was giving birth to a cow. I mean 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.360 I just yelled for minutes, like just shouted. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:58.640 That was it. It was great. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.760 Okay, So not to harsh the vibe in the room, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.199 not to pull out my whole fist at once, but 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.760 I'm curious. I do want to know about some of 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.480 the risks involved with fisting. I know that some of 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.719 them are highly stigmatized and exaggerated, but I know that 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.959 some are practical concerns that we have to think about. 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.840 What are some health and safety concerns that you'd encourage 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:18.920 people to think about. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.400 Several I mean, I've been fisting for well over a decade, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.720 and I've been involved in the fisting scene, and i 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.840 know multiple friends that have been in the emergency room 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.880 that have had surgery, that have had such severe injuries 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.720 that they will never be able to fist to the 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.040 same extent that they did before. If you get injured, 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.080 you can get permanent scar tissue inside your rectum, and 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.600 scar tissue doesn't stretch, so you can stop even your 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.280 regular like not even fisting, but just anal sex life 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.200 for the rest of your life. So it is a 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.160 high risk sex sport. But you can go too fast 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.040 in the very beginning and push it, and because you're tight, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.360 you're going to get hurt or when you're going from 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:59.520 like punches to like elbow, you know, and there's a 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.240 lot of fists life between those two places, and it's 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:06.120 always in those two spots very beginning or pretty advanced 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.080 that people seem to get pretty badly hurt. So people 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.560 do need to think about gloves is a way to 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:17.200 moderate risk and actually just going really slow and listening 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.680 to your body and obviously using proper loube. But the 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:26.400 biggest predicator of injury potential infesting is fisting on kims, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.240 on substances that override your own ability to read pain 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.960 and read your own bodies limits. And everybody I know 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.200 who's gotten hurt and fisting has done so high. They 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.960 were pushing it past their own limit and they weren't 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.880 listening to their body, and that's how you get hurt. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.640 Yeah, no, thank you for mentioning the kims and fisting, 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.560 because I think as a sober person, it took me 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.440 a long time to get back into fisting sober. It 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.480 took a lot of conversations with people who do it, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.720 and just like being able to understand that, like fisting 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.560 can happen without kims, and it can happen without poppers. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.760 Like I know people who take doubles without poppers, which 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.480 is mind boggling to me, but they exist. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.800 Sorry, I used to term doubles. Is that exactly what 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:08.400 it sounds like? 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:09.240 It? 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:09.640 Sure? 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:12.880 Thank you? 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.280 Do you mean two heads? Double? 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:16.800 Doubles are my favorite thing? 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.400 Interesting, You guys should form a doubles team and then 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:20.120 we'll go bowling. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:20.680 It'll be great. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:20.920 Yeah. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.640 So I kind of wanted to address another misnomer. I 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.120 think for a lot of folks, there's this idea that 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.720 fisting quote unquote ruins other forms of sex, that like, 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.200 once you've found fisting, you never want to do anything else. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.000 So I'm curious what would you say to folks that 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:38.120 have that concern. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.560 I have been fisting for well over ten years, and 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.200 I love other kinds of sex, and I have a 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.120 lot of other kinds of sex. I don't know any 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.520 fisters who only fist. I don't know a single fister 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:50.960 who like that's it. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.800 I mean, I do have a friend who. 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.640 Always have a friend. If there's anybody that has a 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:00.960 friend and it's Chris. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.680 She does have other sacks, but she's less likely to 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.399 prioritize that over a fisting appointment totally. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.400 Like I went on a date recently with this guy 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.840 and he wasn't into fisting, and we had a couple 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.360 of dates and he was like, so are you going 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.440 back and I'm gonna fucket your place? And I was like, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.080 I'm gonna be honest with you, dude. If I'm douching tonight, 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.600 it's for fisting and you're not into fisting, so sometimes 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.400 sometimes yeah, Like if you're gonna put in the work 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.120 of cleaning out, yeah. 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.000 And that's the way it comes down to. He's like, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.000 if I'm douchinge, then I'm going to get a fist. 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.120 What does douching and preparation for fisting look like compared 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.280 to getting fucked by a dick. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.119 I don't know if there's a single monolithic answer to that. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.960 Because some guys, these mysterious creatures out there, have these 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.600 magical golden rectums that just work after one poop and 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.440 they're spotless and they're fine. They tend to be vegan, 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.960 and some people, like I fully admit here that I'm 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.920 one of the people that takes a little bit longer, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.320 or my body's a little bit more funky. I have 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.320 lactose in tolerance, and so I have to be much 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.520