Speaker 1: Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish
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Speaker 4: by Jeth he Retles in South Florida. It's been interesting
Speaker 4: already through the first ten rounds that we have so far.
Speaker 4: I guess the first four we're pretty expected, and then
Speaker 4: Curry out going five.
Speaker 2: I think that that has to be a surprise to
Speaker 2: many of us.
Speaker 4: I mean, has a name that we were looking at
Speaker 4: the Marlins possibly getting when they pick at fourteen. Just
Speaker 4: seeing Pacopean go now to the Nationals is another name
Speaker 4: that the Marlins could have gotten.
Speaker 2: So some names that the Marlins have been linked to
Speaker 2: are coming off.
Speaker 4: The board just before their pick, with some others surprisingly
Speaker 4: still there.
Speaker 2: So we're going to Hector.
Speaker 4: I'll go to you first, man, this is your your
Speaker 4: wheelhouse and Sean, but Hector, you your.
Speaker 2: Thoughts so far on what's gone on leading up to
Speaker 2: fourteen for Miami.
Speaker 1: I would say, for the most part of the draft
Speaker 1: has gone just about what you expected. Curry out went
Speaker 1: a lower early, but I still thought he was a
Speaker 1: top ten pick. Zion Rose is obviously the biggest surprise.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that probably could have gone late first,
Speaker 1: maybe even a competition pick, but he ended up going
Speaker 1: six overall. The rest has been pretty much what you
Speaker 1: expect from my top list. A. J. Garcia has already
Speaker 1: come off the board. That was by number three prospect.
Speaker 1: He went ninth overall to the Atlanta Braves. I think
Speaker 1: that's really a nice pick for them. Surprised they didn't
Speaker 1: go with the guy who is still on the clock
Speaker 1: and the guy that I didn't include on my list
Speaker 1: simply because I didn't think it was a possibility. Jacob Lombard,
Speaker 1: the an infielder from Gulliver Prep. He is still available.
Speaker 1: The hometown kid, the lefty Geo Rojas, also still available.
Speaker 1: My number one prospect, Chris Hacopian has yet to be picked.
Speaker 1: So that you know, there's just a lot going on
Speaker 1: right now. There's still a lot of really good options.
Speaker 1: Ace Rees obviously from Mississippi State. It's going to be
Speaker 1: really interesting to see what happens. You know, the Martins
Speaker 1: have a lot of opportunities to possibly give one of
Speaker 1: their top guys.
Speaker 2: See Kevin at the draft of course behind you.
Speaker 4: I know we're going to go to you sparingly because
Speaker 4: the internet's not cooperating too well with you.
Speaker 2: But talk about the vibes. What's going on in the building.
Speaker 5: It's maybe the lowest the music has been. So you
Speaker 5: actually got me at.
Speaker 2: A good time.
Speaker 5: Oh, there's gonna be a pick. Nationals are about to
Speaker 5: make their selection.
Speaker 3: Gus get here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Chriscope in a second basement from Texas. They announced
Speaker 5: him as a second basement too, which I guess already
Speaker 5: means something there. And I know Hector was talking about
Speaker 5: him as a boss moving from shortstop. But no, this
Speaker 5: is great. This is You could just saw some a
Speaker 5: ton of fans. Unfortunately I did not see a single
Speaker 5: Marlins fan. But Billy, the Marlins you're representing. He was food,
Speaker 5: which was surprising, knowing you know how little people care.
Speaker 6: About this team sometimes.
Speaker 5: But you know, the vibes are good and uh yeah no,
Speaker 5: so I guess now the Angels are on the clock.
Speaker 2: So good Vitcher in Philly, Yeah, I could jump in.
Speaker 3: I think a great way to I didn't realize that
Speaker 3: Kevin was gonna be so well suited to get like
Speaker 3: the mic right in Manfred's face essentially, so we'll have
Speaker 3: him kind of deliver the actual news itself when when
Speaker 3: Manfred's ready to announce a few picks from now. So
Speaker 3: that's that's Joe Doyle's tweets.
Speaker 2: Don't want to look at Joe Doyle's tweets.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we'll hear it straight from Manfred's mouth
Speaker 3: when the Marlins pick. So go ahead, can I.
Speaker 1: Can I kep point out something I just realized on
Speaker 1: the on MLB On MLB TV, they showed the top
Speaker 1: five available prospects. All top the top three are all
Speaker 1: from South Florida. Lombard from Gulliver, Jacobean from Stowman Douglas,
Speaker 1: and and Justin Lebron who played collegeball at Alabama. However,
Speaker 1: he's from archibisa McCarthy in Southwest Ranches.
Speaker 4: So yeah, some baseball hotbeds down here for sure, especially
Speaker 4: Archbishop as you mentioned there, Gulliver too.
Speaker 2: Isaac's Douglas the last couple of years on here.
Speaker 4: It's not even on here in the Marlins could get
Speaker 4: somebody from his high school.
Speaker 2: All of the matter anyways, Uh, Sean.
Speaker 4: We can start reviewing this you know, there's always a
Speaker 4: question drafting for need versus drafting best player available. The Marlins,
Speaker 4: i think, in many years, have gone what they thought
Speaker 4: was the best player available. I mean, you're looking at
Speaker 4: Lombard here possibly falling. The Marlins don't really need shortstops.
Speaker 4: I mean, you have many guys in the miners that
Speaker 4: could stick at shortstop, IVR Cat.
Speaker 2: Being one, and many others. But if he's there, can
Speaker 2: you go with somebody else? I mean, you definitely can.
Speaker 7: It's also dependent on bonus, right, the Marlins don't necessarily
Speaker 7: have as big as a bonus as they've had in
Speaker 7: past years, So maybe Lombard is looking for an overslought
Speaker 7: deal that the Marlins may not want to make with him.
Speaker 7: I do think that if there's ever a year, we're
Speaker 7: perhaps the best player available, and it's probably this year
Speaker 7: concerning that their their next pick is, I mean, they
Speaker 7: have two second rounders technically with the comp B pick,
Speaker 7: so they don't pick for a while. It's not like
Speaker 7: past years where they've had two first round picks or
Speaker 7: one one comp A pick. So it's possible Jacob Lombard
Speaker 7: goes if he falls to Miami. But looking at it now,
Speaker 7: no picture has been selected, at least as of right now,
Speaker 7: so the Marlins could have any picture in the draft,
Speaker 7: which maybe they weren't expecting.
Speaker 1: So Jackson Floorer from UC Santa Barbara went.
Speaker 7: For he did, Yes, he did fourth. Yeah, but everyone else,
Speaker 7: I mean, GIOE. Rojas is still available, Logan Retamen's available,
Speaker 7: Liam Peterson is still available. Uh, even Cam Fluki, which
Speaker 7: some are some are lower on than others, but some
Speaker 7: really like. He's like six foot six, big stuff. If
Speaker 7: the college bats continue to fall, the Marlins may be
Speaker 7: forced to select them that way. But as of right now,
Speaker 7: I mean, you still have Ace Reese on the board
Speaker 7: and Jacob Lumbard also a college kid high school kids. Sorry,
Speaker 7: so we'll see what happens. But I think the board's
Speaker 7: falling pretty nice for Miami right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean definitely. This is kind of the area
Speaker 4: where it gets jumbled up. You know, they got the
Speaker 4: favorites at the top, some of the bigger names went already.
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen when the Marlins are on the clock here?
Speaker 2: What one pick? Two picks? Jeez, you know, I go ahead,
Speaker 2: what are you think?
Speaker 3: I just want to kind of echo what Sean brought
Speaker 3: up a pretty important point that it is a while
Speaker 3: until they pick again after they make this fourteenth overall pick,
Speaker 3: even though, like you could look historically, the odds of
Speaker 3: this type of player turning into a star are pretty low.
Speaker 3: But in this year, they're a victim of their own
Speaker 3: success somewhat, and they're also a victim of just the
Speaker 3: alternating year tough luck in this case where for those unfamiliar,
Speaker 3: every year the Marlins alternate between a competitive balance rounds
Speaker 3: A pick and round B, and round to A comes
Speaker 3: immediately after the first rounds and then round B is
Speaker 3: immediately after the second. So in this particular year, that
Speaker 3: affects not only their draft position, but their total bonus
Speaker 3: pull money as well in terms of what they can
Speaker 3: get creative and doing. Like even if a really talented
Speaker 3: player falls well, they have enough money to sign Lombard
Speaker 3: if you available, they have enough to for a guy
Speaker 3: that was expecting to go a lot higher. That's it's
Speaker 3: kind of like a Khalil Watson situation from five years ago.
Speaker 3: That's the closest comp I could think of it. If
Speaker 3: it winds up that way, where the Marvels were able
Speaker 3: to barely get that deal across the finish line, and
Speaker 3: then that relationship didn't go particularly well at any point
Speaker 3: for a guy that was expecting to go a lot higher.
Speaker 3: So that's just one of the variables to keep in
Speaker 3: mind here with that particular player. If he does fall
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 6: I think the Angels are picking right now, Angels select.
Speaker 3: We're gonna whenever we're going to get these picks, it's
Speaker 3: going to come straight from Manfred to Kevin to us.
Speaker 2: Angels made a pick. I couldn't even tell you the guys, it's.
Speaker 8: Very yeah, yeah, because so Marls right off. Uh, so
Speaker 8: we'll see Longmard's still there.
Speaker 5: I think you gotta feel like that best case and
Speaker 5: they do choose out it seems like the work around
Speaker 5: is that that could be the case.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 5: But everyone that could be the right choice is still
Speaker 5: there for at least Old Hacker, Sean and everyone else
Speaker 5: has said so far, do not choose Justin Lebron.
Speaker 3: Mhmm, yeah, Justin Lebron. I think that was the very
Speaker 3: last profile that Hector put together. I think we should
Speaker 3: just briefly in case that is the pick. Uh Hector,
Speaker 3: if he could just lay out quickly wide is that
Speaker 3: some of us are kind of fearful of that as
Speaker 3: a worst case scenario with Lebrony. That just the quick
Speaker 3: summary about where he was as a prospect entering the
Speaker 3: cycle where he is now.
Speaker 6: So to begin the draft cycle there he was a possibility.
Speaker 1: He was probably like a top three or top five
Speaker 1: prospect going into this upcoming year and a guy that
Speaker 1: probably could have that was one of the favorite to
Speaker 1: be the number one overall pick. However, he just struggled
Speaker 1: at the plate, and also his defense really started to suffer,
Speaker 1: even though I think he's an excellent defensive shorts up
Speaker 1: and it's got incredible hands. It's kind of a wizard
Speaker 1: out there, just a tremendous athlete. His his errors doubled
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty six, and his
Speaker 1: that really struggled. Like he's obviously has a lot of power.
Speaker 1: He's not a big kid, but he's got quick twitch
Speaker 1: and that's where he gets his power from.
Speaker 6: But he's a guy that batt at two.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine in the SEC with a metal bat like
Speaker 1: that's gonna be that could be an issue for that
Speaker 1: could be an issue you know at the next level
Speaker 1: where you're hitting with the wood back, and he's already
Speaker 1: playing against elite competition in the SEC. You know, every
Speaker 1: Friday night you're facing the guy that's probably gonna get
Speaker 1: drafted either later on today or tomorrow.
Speaker 6: So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 1: With the Marlins if they take Lebron, but if they
Speaker 1: fix the hit tool. Oh he's a five tool player,
Speaker 1: but obviously you know, it is such an important tool
Speaker 1: I have for sure.
Speaker 3: I think what we'll do here is Kevin as soon
Speaker 3: as Manfred calls the Cardinals pick unnute yourself so that
Speaker 3: we hear from Manfred himself. Then we'll go to break.
Speaker 3: Then we'll go around for prediction instant prediction time in
Speaker 3: terms of who we think it's going to be, and
Speaker 3: then we'll go back to Kevin for the actual announcement itself.
Speaker 3: I think we have a couple of minutes to spare
Speaker 3: until then, though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if if they do go top heavy,
Speaker 4: which is what I mean, they have the capacity to
Speaker 4: do that. You know, high school picks, they usually get
Speaker 4: overslot deals to pay out an overslot deal to a
Speaker 4: to a high school player with the first pick, that's
Speaker 4: gonna cost them money.
Speaker 2: If that is the route that they go.
Speaker 4: But I think, like you were saying, Eli and Sean,
Speaker 4: with not another pick for a little while, they probably
Speaker 4: have the capacity to do it, but they have to
Speaker 4: spend a lot of their pool early if they do
Speaker 4: go high school first card.
Speaker 5: Here we go, with the thirteen of the twenty twenty
Speaker 5: six MLB Draft, the Saint Louis Cartons select Trevor Condon,
Speaker 5: an outfielder from Nawa High School.
Speaker 4: It would stock so lombarda is available to spoorteen overall
Speaker 4: if they go that way. Again, we were just saying,
Speaker 4: what the money, which is a lot, Like you were saying,
Speaker 4: it does remind of the Khalil Watson situation where we're
Speaker 4: gonna have to shell out a lot of your pool,
Speaker 4: but with not another pick to comb I think you
Speaker 4: can do it. It's gonna cost the most of their pool,
Speaker 4: so they're probably if they do go Lombard here will
Speaker 4: not get some I have to get creative with the
Speaker 4: rest of their draft, we'll say. But but yeah, I
Speaker 4: think best player available, this is the year to do it.
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Speaker 4: The So we're going to early prediction time for who
Speaker 4: the Marlins will select here as they are on the clock,
Speaker 4: have fourteen overall? Is it the best player available? Do
Speaker 4: they have someone else in mind? What do we think
Speaker 4: they'll do? Jeremiah, I'll go to you first. We haven't
Speaker 4: heard from you.
Speaker 9: Ye, go ahead, Yeah, I think it's got to be
Speaker 9: best player available. If I was in the Marlin shoes
Speaker 9: right now, I'm going with Geo Rojas, left handed pitcher
Speaker 9: out of high school, really good stuff, fastball slider. I
Speaker 9: think they go pitcher and yeah.
Speaker 10: That's my prediction.
Speaker 2: Nate, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: It seems like every draft.
Speaker 11: I'm a big fan of the local guys, and I
Speaker 11: think the Orleans have a great pick right here, no
Speaker 11: matter who they know, with obviously Lombard down in Miami.
Speaker 11: But I think the guy who I've been on this
Speaker 11: entire drafts, just like Jeremiah said, he's been the ace
Speaker 11: of Thestilman that have been pitching staff the best program
Speaker 11: in the country since his sophomore year. Wipe out, fastball,
Speaker 11: amazing slider. I think the moments have to go with
Speaker 11: a roster.
Speaker 2: Factor.
Speaker 6: I didn't think he'd be available, but he is. Jacob Lembard.
Speaker 6: I mean that makes the most sense.
Speaker 1: You know, you still got Joe Rojas, who he's another
Speaker 1: hometown kid also pick.
Speaker 6: He'd be an Nelson pick, and you also obviously have
Speaker 6: a sees.
Speaker 1: I think the morn if they don't get one of
Speaker 1: those three guys, they kind of messes up.
Speaker 6: So we'll see.
Speaker 2: Sean. A lot of solid options still on the board.
Speaker 7: But I do think Marlin's go best player available, and
Speaker 7: he is also my best player available, and Jacob Lombard.
Speaker 4: I will briefly go and echo what you just said,
Speaker 4: Sean and what Hector has said. I mean, they don't
Speaker 4: really need shortstops, but this is the year to go
Speaker 4: best player available, and he is the best player available.
Speaker 2: It's Jacob B. Lombard's. That's if they got him, that
Speaker 2: is a slam dunk pick for the Marlins. You I
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: Important factor here is that none of Jacob Berry's siblings
Speaker 3: or relatives are draft eligible this year, so they're not
Speaker 3: going to fall into that trap. And I think instead
Speaker 3: they'll go Jacob Lombard. That's my best guess here, and
Speaker 3: I think one that would make a lot of people
Speaker 3: happy considering the value proposition of what we thought entering
Speaker 3: this draft. But we're about to find.
Speaker 2: Out, Kevin, to go ahead before the your favorite.
Speaker 5: Clock is still running, still on the clock, with just
Speaker 5: under a minute remaining.
Speaker 2: I think the Marlins go with with Lombard. You have to.
Speaker 2: That is by far the best player available in this draft.
Speaker 5: And if Frankie player's strategy is best player available, that's
Speaker 5: what he will take. And Frank Lombard becomes a top
Speaker 5: ten prospect in the system.
Speaker 11: He's that good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so, Marn's taking their time, I guess here.
Speaker 4: But to me, it's the money. To me, it's the money.
Speaker 4: We were talking about it. But I think they can
Speaker 4: get it done. But the rest of this draft I
Speaker 4: don't think will be too exciting if they do go
Speaker 4: with Lombard, So they'll have to get creative. I mean,
Speaker 4: there is obviously talent to be found all over the draft,
Speaker 4: but the things you get creative with who they scouted
Speaker 4: and who they spent time with. Prediction Mason Edwards, that's
Speaker 4: the name we ever heard. Yeah, so just to wait
Speaker 4: in the clock here.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Once a look at the picks.
Speaker 5: The pick is not it yet six seconds, five seconds
Speaker 5: more three two one, and they just expired. All right,
Speaker 5: the pick is in, so we should be hearing from
Speaker 5: Manfred any second.
Speaker 7: And I'm gonna get a video of this too.
Speaker 2: Gotta work two things at the same time. So all right,
Speaker 2: I'll let you guys when it comes out.
Speaker 3: Thank you everybody that's tuning in live for this. I
Speaker 3: think the reactions are going to be our best part.
Speaker 3: But then the second best part is actually analyzing who
Speaker 3: this pick is going to be, because that's where the
Speaker 3: It was very difficult, of course to pin down who's
Speaker 3: gonna be available at this range, YadA, YadA, YadA entering this,
Speaker 3: so we cast a very wide net in previewing it.
Speaker 3: But ultimately the most important thing is getting you familiar
Speaker 3: as quickly as possible and as much as possible with.
Speaker 5: Here we go, here going the rest of the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty sixth MLB Draft the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 2: So like Jacob lumbarg a shortstop from.
Speaker 3: Gulliver Rap School, Miami Florida.
Speaker 2: The arison over, then the next pick that is the
Speaker 2: right thing to do. Awesome, last player available, Hector, go ahead,
Speaker 2: snap reaction.
Speaker 5: Act to shock it be shocked.
Speaker 2: Oh, hector, he's so shocked you forgot the im mute himself, can.
Speaker 6: You guys hear me?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Yes, So, I mean Lombard, but I wasn't expecting him
Speaker 1: to be taking this early.
Speaker 6: I thought he'd be a top five to seven pick.
Speaker 1: Marlins grabbed the best hit player in the draft, number
Speaker 1: five prospect of corn that would be pipeline and just
Speaker 1: an absolute monster get for the Marlins.
Speaker 6: This is a guy that is a five tool player.
Speaker 1: He can you know, he does have a little bit
Speaker 1: swinging miss to his game, but to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: that was really only like at the circuit.
Speaker 6: Level where everyone's throwing the mid nineties.
Speaker 1: So everyone at the high school level, you know, especially
Speaker 1: at those summer circuits, they're gonna be there's gonna some
Speaker 1: swing and miss. But he does everything well. He's an
Speaker 1: incredible athlete. He's a little bit more power over hit tool,
Speaker 1: but I mean there's just so much alike there. He's
Speaker 1: a short step at the next level and if needed
Speaker 1: to move to third base because if he out grows
Speaker 1: a position, he's a goal glove Candida at third.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, go ahead me. In the scouting grades.
Speaker 4: This is just looking briefly, fifty five grade hits, sixty
Speaker 4: grade power, sixty five runs, so you're fast as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got tools on tools here, local guy.
Speaker 2: This is easy to root for, but.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, yeah, yeah, it's extreme tools, maybe some of
Speaker 7: the most tools out of all the high school players
Speaker 7: in the first round that we're available. He's number seven
Speaker 7: on my board with big tools the high school players,
Speaker 7: especially of his size six foot three. Of course, the
Speaker 7: range of outcomes are large. I had the floor at
Speaker 7: a forty with the ceiling at a sixty. I only
Speaker 7: gave five players in this draft a ceiling of a
Speaker 7: sixty future value, which just kind of shows that if
Speaker 7: everything hits, which goes with his hit tool, which I
Speaker 7: guess is the biggest question that's going to really determine
Speaker 7: his range of outcomes. But like Hector said that he
Speaker 7: should stick at shortstop even given his size. If he
Speaker 7: has to move over to third base, you definitely have
Speaker 7: a goal glove third baseman with potential for twenty five
Speaker 7: to maybe even thirty home run power one day. I mean,
Speaker 7: this is a big frame and he's ready physically gifted
Speaker 7: for an eighteen year old, he's ready as big. He
Speaker 7: kind of has a pro body as it is right now,
Speaker 7: so it's all going to be on the hit tool
Speaker 7: and the approach. But besides that, I mean, this was
Speaker 7: the best player available. I think the Marlins did the
Speaker 7: right thing here, not.
Speaker 2: A lot not to like.
Speaker 4: I mean, like we're saying the money is going to
Speaker 4: be the thing, so that out of the way. I mean,
Speaker 4: you go, pest player available. This is the best player available.
Speaker 4: I think it definitely was obviously the best positioned player available.
Speaker 2: Take him away from a commitment to Miami.
Speaker 4: That's not gonna be pat We were saying it before Nate,
Speaker 4: but I mean, this is gonna be overslot. I guess
Speaker 4: we could say, you know, we could point out the
Speaker 4: the overall plot value for this how far over do
Speaker 4: you think this should do or will go out for
Speaker 4: this player.
Speaker 11: I'm not the expert on slot like a lot of
Speaker 11: the other guys are, but I think obviously what to
Speaker 11: over and probably will have the Marlins later in this
Speaker 11: Draftle Obviously you have to, you know, take the damage
Speaker 11: of that, but for a guy like this, it's worth it.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 11: I don't know if you guys touched on this earlier,
Speaker 11: but obviously it comes from a huge baseball family. His
Speaker 11: dad was a coach for many organizations, brother obviously with
Speaker 11: the Yankees, so I think they're getting a ball out here.
Speaker 10: Man obviously faced.
Speaker 11: Some of the best competition and all the and all
Speaker 11: the country out here in South Florida, played round the
Speaker 11: prep circuit, the number two player in Perfect Games high
Speaker 11: school ranking, So no PJ Orlando tours as he was
Speaker 11: number one, So that'll that's out of the factor this year.
Speaker 11: So big get for the Marlins. The board pretty much
Speaker 11: worked out right in their favor. So hopefully get him
Speaker 11: in Miami. I mean soon enough. I don't know as
Speaker 11: quick as they can get him there with obviously getting
Speaker 11: to sign and stuff, but it shouldn't be.
Speaker 3: Long, right, Yeah. So some things to keep in mind
Speaker 3: when it comes to the potential financial ramifications. This is
Speaker 3: a player where I mean, for example, if we thought
Speaker 3: he was going to go very likely somewhere between what
Speaker 3: five and eight something like that, the slot values of
Speaker 3: those picks are eight point three million, seven point eight million,
Speaker 3: seven point three million. The Marlins have a slot value
Speaker 3: of five point four million. That's multiple millions to dollars,
Speaker 3: probably below what the average projection was for him. That
Speaker 3: doesn't mean he's gonna make up all that money, but
Speaker 3: I think he's going to make up some of it
Speaker 3: and be an overslot signing here, which would mean that overall,
Speaker 3: we'll take a broader look at their bonus pool. Like
Speaker 3: the total bonus pool for this year is right in
Speaker 3: the middle of the pack for MLP teams. It's just
Speaker 3: a shade below twelve million, and you could go a
Speaker 3: little bit above that without two severe penalties. But it
Speaker 3: means that he's going to take up at least half
Speaker 3: of this bonus pool if I was to estimate it
Speaker 3: right here, and that just means that they'll have to
Speaker 3: trim elsewhere in the draft in order to make it work.
Speaker 3: You don't really make this pick unless you're certain that
Speaker 3: you can sign him. But the trade off of being
Speaker 3: able to sign him is going to be spending less
Speaker 3: in these subsequent rounds than they previously did. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's really nothing coming between him in Barry, but I
Speaker 3: bring up Jacob Barry again just because financially it was
Speaker 3: a very similar circumstance. Barry signed for six million and
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and the Marlins total bonus pool that
Speaker 3: year was right around twelve million dollars as well, And
Speaker 3: as it turns out, the Marlins got didn't have a
Speaker 3: ton of other talent from that twenty two draft class
Speaker 3: outside of Barry Carson. Mill Brandt is probably the saving
Speaker 3: grace of that entire class. To this point four years later,
Speaker 3: most of the other guys aren't even in minor league
Speaker 3: ball anymore, just because the Marls are so strapped for
Speaker 3: resources in later rounds. So yeah, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: say that this is necessarily a one man draft class
Speaker 3: that might be overreacting slightly. It's just that it's going
Speaker 3: to be on that end of the spectrum compared to
Speaker 3: the typical draft. There a whole lot of their success
Speaker 3: is going to be relying on Lombard coming through and
Speaker 3: getting relatively close to his lofty ceiling.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if I could chime in really quickly, way I
Speaker 7: think talking about the bonus pool, I would wager that
Speaker 7: Lombard probably gets around what the slot for the Royals is,
Speaker 7: which is one second, it is seven point seven million,
Speaker 7: where Zion Rose, who they selected at seven, is probably
Speaker 7: going to get the Marlins slot value around two million.
Speaker 7: Last which makes sense for the Royals considering they pick
Speaker 7: again at thirty, where the Marlins don't pick again.
Speaker 10: Till the fifties, I believe.
Speaker 7: So, Yeah, I mean I think you had to go
Speaker 7: best player available there for the slot, given that they
Speaker 7: don't have a comp a pick. And I mean, what
Speaker 7: better player to fall than Jacob Lombard if you're talking
Speaker 7: about best player available?
Speaker 4: So I guess one thing we could point out is
Speaker 4: why did he follow that far? I mean, it's a
Speaker 4: player that a lot of people expected to go a
Speaker 4: lot earlier than this. I don't think many of us
Speaker 4: had him falling to the Marlins at fourteen? Is assignability?
Speaker 4: Is it something and maybe physicals that we haven't heard yet?
Speaker 2: Like, what what could be? I'll let anybody go on this.
Speaker 4: What could be the reason that a guy like this
Speaker 4: that is a supreme athlete, it seems will stick at
Speaker 4: shortstop really good hit tool, really good power, really good speed.
Speaker 4: It's like at least four out of five tools at
Speaker 4: what he's being scouted.
Speaker 2: For and a lot of time on his side.
Speaker 4: So what could be the reason that a player like
Speaker 4: this falls a bit past this possible draft block?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I would just to me, I would say it's signability
Speaker 7: and it's hit tool. It's probably a lot of MB
Speaker 7: teams models, which is how a lot of teams now
Speaker 7: deal with the draft. Probably don't project his hit tool
Speaker 7: or approach to significantly improve as he reaches the majors.
Speaker 7: Maybe some teams don't view him as a shortstop, which
Speaker 7: definitely hurts how you would view him if you're drafting
Speaker 7: a high school third basement compared to shortstop on a
Speaker 7: value scale is a big difference. So that's the only
Speaker 7: two things I could think of he's eighteen years old.
Speaker 7: Is good bloodline. I mean, his father is currently the
Speaker 7: bench coach with the Tigers. As Nate mentioned, his brother
Speaker 7: is a top prospect in the Yankee system. So it
Speaker 7: has to be hit tool, approach and sign.
Speaker 12: Ability pactors meet it again, Jesus.
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, it's probably just signability.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the only reason, because.
Speaker 6: I mean hit tool.
Speaker 1: I think I mean we say like, oh, he's got
Speaker 1: you know, hit tool of this hits that he's still
Speaker 1: great as a fifty five hit tool, which is rated
Speaker 1: above average. Though the one tool I would say that
Speaker 1: he probably needs the most work with and that could
Speaker 1: be an issue with him being a short step is
Speaker 1: the arm stright.
Speaker 6: That's that's his biggest weakness. His arm isn't the best,
Speaker 6: but that's also one of the tools that you could fix,
Speaker 6: you know, the best.
Speaker 1: So I mean obviously it leads be you know, as
Speaker 1: you This is from my from my draft profile a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago about him. I had him as
Speaker 1: a top ten pick and somehow, you know, he fell
Speaker 1: all the way to fourteen for the Marlins. I think
Speaker 1: very intelligent ballplayer. Obviously comes from a baseball family, did,
Speaker 1: like I said, struggle with high velocity in the past.
Speaker 6: That's during the summer's record where everyone's throwing mid nineties.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously the high school talent down here is incredible,
Speaker 1: but there's you know, there's going to be obviously some
Speaker 1: high school kids that you're facing. There going to be
Speaker 1: low to mid eighties, and you could just tee off
Speaker 1: on them. But my comparison is Jeremy Payna because I
Speaker 1: just like the physical tools just like Jeremy Paana, and
Speaker 1: I think he can be a pretty complete player like Painya.
Speaker 1: Another guy who you know, I've been thinking about it
Speaker 1: more and more is like a Connor Griffin type.
Speaker 11: I'm also not sure if anyone touched on this, but
Speaker 11: Lombard is a really big, big soccer player, huge fan
Speaker 11: of soccer, played soccer's entire life. There's a video of
Speaker 11: him that Youth Prospects it a while ago, asking him like,
Speaker 11: what do you prefer baseball or soccer?
Speaker 10: And he said it depends on some days.
Speaker 11: So it reminds you that what Frankie Plairy said last
Speaker 11: year when talking about what guys they like, you said,
Speaker 11: they really prioritize athletes.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I've our chat was.
Speaker 11: The Gataaye Player of the Year for Hawaii and basketball,
Speaker 11: so another guy in multi sport talent. Something I thought
Speaker 11: funny wrinkle because I mean.
Speaker 10: Speed wherever you need. So it's a interesting again they
Speaker 10: you know, follow that route.
Speaker 9: M M.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's an interesting spectrum there where you want guys,
Speaker 3: of course to love baseball as much as possible, work
Speaker 3: as hard as they can to be the best version
Speaker 3: of themselves in the pros. But at the same time
Speaker 3: I kind of am on that same train of thought
Speaker 3: that you want these guys to be well rounded as
Speaker 3: athletes and as people once they entering pro ball. You
Speaker 3: don't want them to live, sleep, and breathe everything for
Speaker 3: their entire life, and that to come at the detriment
Speaker 3: of their overall developments. So I do see that as
Speaker 3: a plus, the fact that he has strong passions elsewhere
Speaker 3: and is able to learn that and ultimately incorporate that.
Speaker 3: To bring some other examples of the current Marlins, Joe
Speaker 3: Mack was a big time volleyball player in addition to
Speaker 3: and basketball in addition to being baseball. Max Meyer played
Speaker 3: a lot of hockey growing up. And really like that.
Speaker 3: I mean the countless examp of this that you can
Speaker 3: point to that I think the more the better, and
Speaker 3: that generally serves these guys well moving forward. So we're
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Speaker 3: about Jacob Blombard, and then we'll start looking ahead to
Speaker 3: the rest of today. This still Marlin, still make four
Speaker 3: more picks today alone, twenty more picks over the course
Speaker 3: of this weekend, and we'll dive into it as much
Speaker 3: as we can. So stick with us.
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Speaker 2: Here on the Draft Reaction Live show on Vish on Verse.
Speaker 2: I don't have that cool title that.
Speaker 4: You had first their instant analysis, I guess you said
Speaker 4: whatever it was. Anyways, the Marlins selecting Jacob Lombard.
Speaker 2: High school shortstop.
Speaker 4: That's what we're reacting to live on the show before
Speaker 4: the Marlins pake four more picks later on today. You know,
Speaker 4: we've discussed a little bit how this player fits the Marlins,
Speaker 4: why he fits the Marlins because he's the best player available.
Speaker 4: What the Marlin do have now is a question in
Speaker 4: terms of who is their long term shortstop. And I
Speaker 4: guess that is a good problem to have, But there's
Speaker 4: many guys, including Lombard, who could fit this bill. Obviously,
Speaker 4: you're gonna give this guy a chance to stick there.
Speaker 4: You're gonna spend a lot of money on him. You're
Speaker 4: gonna want to stick at the most premium position possible
Speaker 4: that would be shortstop. A lot of evaluators say he
Speaker 4: can stick there despite being a pretty big guy.
Speaker 2: I mean they think i've r K could stick there too,
Speaker 2: and he's massive.
Speaker 4: So my question for you guys here is what do
Speaker 4: they do here and how do they juggle these cards
Speaker 4: in terms of all of these athletes that they have
Speaker 4: who could potentially stick at shortstop. Now with their last
Speaker 4: two first round picks potentially being those two who could
Speaker 4: stick at that position. I have a Riquette and Jacob B. Loombard.
Speaker 2: Who do you like more to stick there? And why?
Speaker 2: I guess Jeremiah go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 9: It kind of reminds me of the Dodgers situation when
Speaker 9: it comes to outfielders in double A, triple A.
Speaker 2: Some say there's a log jam.
Speaker 9: They have Zire Hope, you know, Mike Sirota, and there's
Speaker 9: a problem of getting guys up to the majors and
Speaker 9: creates a system of moves you're gonna have to make.
Speaker 9: But at this point in Lombard's career, I mean, he's
Speaker 9: so young, He's eighteen years old right out of high school.
Speaker 9: You want him to play shortstop. It's the premium position
Speaker 9: for a draft pick. You're that you're spending a lot
Speaker 9: of money on. I don't really view it as a
Speaker 9: concern because I think these problems tend to play themselves
Speaker 9: out and just handle them themselves. I know there's a
Speaker 9: little bit of a concern with the arm strength, but
Speaker 9: he's such an athlete, right and he's got so many
Speaker 9: other tools, the speed, the power, and that's what I
Speaker 9: really like is his offensive production, whereas defensively, you know,
Speaker 9: he sticks that shortstop, that's great, But I'm so high
Speaker 9: on his bat and what he brings to the table
Speaker 9: that you know, with Iva in the system, if Iva
Speaker 9: ends up going to third and Lombard six that short
Speaker 9: you know, five six years down the road in Miami,
Speaker 9: You're you're gonna live with that. You're gonna be completely
Speaker 9: fine with that, as long as they just continue to
Speaker 9: make progress with.
Speaker 2: Each level of the of the minor league.
Speaker 3: So you know, time, time will tell.
Speaker 9: I just don't think it's a main concern that the
Speaker 9: Marlins should have right now.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, the conventional thinking is you can draft as
Speaker 3: many shortstops as you want. The more, the merrier. It
Speaker 3: really is, because these guys, if they have the athleticism
Speaker 3: to play sportsop, they the instincts to play shortstop, they
Speaker 3: can play practically any physician. So it kind of as
Speaker 3: simple as that to me, where I'm kind of satisfied
Speaker 3: with that. But our cad it's a more unorthodox physical
Speaker 3: build for sure, even though I think but from what
Speaker 3: we've seen, you know, scouting him in the Marlins Orea,
Speaker 3: you I've been really impressed by his shortstop defense. It's
Speaker 3: just that historically guys you don't want to be too shallow,
Speaker 3: but guys that look like him and are built like
Speaker 3: him just usually don't stick at shortstop. Usually they're surpassed
Speaker 3: by somebody else that is smaller and more compact. So
Speaker 3: somebody like Lovart and Lombard himself is pretty for that
Speaker 3: position too, six foot three, so it's not like a
Speaker 3: huge difference. But I think every every inch matters, as
Speaker 3: you can say, in some other aspects of life as well,
Speaker 3: So I think Lombard is I would say, more likely
Speaker 3: to stick there overall. But ultimately I think it's a
Speaker 3: great problem to have in the draft. Always load up
Speaker 3: as much as possible one guys with shortstop potential and
Speaker 3: then see where it goes from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, it's a good problem to have.
Speaker 2: And our cat has already spent some time at third base,
Speaker 2: of course injured right now.
Speaker 4: The Marlins hope to get him back for the end
Speaker 4: of the year at double A after you've heard his
Speaker 4: thumb on a slide.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no Lombard coming in.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a huge get And like we said,
Speaker 4: I mean you can always move pieces around.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a good problem to have.
Speaker 4: It's just interesting that their last two picks have been
Speaker 4: you know, shortstop that, and they think they can stick there.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how they
Speaker 4: juggle those pieces as time goes on.
Speaker 2: One other question I had in character you could I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go to you on this or Sean.
Speaker 4: You know, when you're going into a draft at any
Speaker 4: point as an organization, you tend to use your resources
Speaker 4: and spend time, probably around the guys that you think
Speaker 4: you can get. And even though Lombard was as a
Speaker 4: local guy, I would be interested to know how much
Speaker 4: time they spent with him in terms of area scouting,
Speaker 4: in terms of regional scouting, stuff like that. So my
Speaker 4: question for you guys is do you think they've spent
Speaker 4: a lot of time around this player thinking, and I
Speaker 4: guess betting that he would go earlier and then he doesn't.
Speaker 4: So the question really is do you think they knew
Speaker 4: everything there was to know about this player or do
Speaker 4: you think they're just going to learn more over time?
Speaker 6: If you want, I can go first.
Speaker 1: So, based on from what I know, they've been looking
Speaker 1: at him for a while for multiple years, because he
Speaker 1: is right in our backyard because he's right in their backyard.
Speaker 1: So because of that, they already had a general idea
Speaker 1: of you know who he is. The area of scout
Speaker 1: got to know him because look, I have I have
Speaker 1: friends that are scouts, and they still, even if they
Speaker 1: know they have no chance of going after a guy,
Speaker 1: they still do their due diligence because the MB draft
Speaker 1: is so unpredictable that guys are gonna fall every single year.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just saw right now with Lombard, and
Speaker 1: we've seen a year in and year the guys that probably
Speaker 1: are number two or three prospect end up going tenth overall.
Speaker 6: So every team does their due diligence. And because you
Speaker 6: know he's.
Speaker 1: Right in the Marlins backyard, they can do they can
Speaker 1: get playing due diligence on him. He comes from a
Speaker 1: baseball family, so you know, not only do you know
Speaker 1: you know about the player, but you know about the
Speaker 1: family pretty well because they've been around baseball for a while.
Speaker 1: You know about the brothers, so you know what their
Speaker 1: makeup is like. So when he does fall to you,
Speaker 1: I don't think you think much about it. You just say,
Speaker 1: let's go get this guy in an organization and let's
Speaker 1: celebrate boys because you know, this is a guy that
Speaker 1: I think would be a great is going to be
Speaker 1: a great fit for the organization. And as far as
Speaker 1: position goes, it doesn't really matter. Just grab the best
Speaker 1: player available. Actually, from I've talked to a lot of
Speaker 1: college baseball coaches and a lot of their strategies are
Speaker 1: just get guys up the middle, because you get the
Speaker 1: best athletes, and then you figure out the positions at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, because you see, if you
Speaker 1: can get guys that are, you know, excellent athletes at
Speaker 1: center field and shortstop, maybe they might not be that
Speaker 1: they might not play that position at the collegiate level
Speaker 1: at the next level, but because how athletic and how
Speaker 1: good they are there, it's easier for them to transition
Speaker 1: to other positions.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think it would be that big of
Speaker 7: a concern. I mean that I'm one hundred percent sure
Speaker 7: of the Marlin scouts and executives. I mean, they've been
Speaker 7: familiar with Jacob Lumbard probably says he was fourteen, fifteen
Speaker 7: years old, you know what I mean. So they're not
Speaker 7: thinking when he's fifteen years old, oh we're gonna have
Speaker 7: pick fourteen. We're not gonna, you know, they don't know,
Speaker 7: so I think that they have extensive, you know, research
Speaker 7: on him. Like Hector said's a baseball family. I don't
Speaker 7: know how much even someone like Rachel Balkovic has in this,
Speaker 7: but I mean she does come from the Yankees org
Speaker 7: when when George Lombard had just been drafted, So maybe
Speaker 7: there's some sort of amiliitary there she, you know, ask around. Yeah,
Speaker 7: these I'm sure the top I mean three hundred players.
Speaker 7: I mean they probably have some extensive work on them,
Speaker 7: especially for high school ors.
Speaker 12: Sometimes college guys slip through the cracks.
Speaker 7: I'm sure, but yeah, I mean, it's not a word
Speaker 7: to me. I don't think.
Speaker 3: One thing I want to bring up now is we've
Speaker 3: been talking what fifteen twenty minutes since the pick was
Speaker 3: made is, and now we're seeing who else has been
Speaker 3: picked since then. So some very notable names, guys that
Speaker 3: we had just discussed on off the board shortly after that.
Speaker 3: I think Nate were you one of the gl Rojas
Speaker 3: stands in here so interesting. Yeah, he goes two picks later.
Speaker 3: So how about that? The fact that almost immediately after
Speaker 3: the Mars around the clock he comes off the boards
Speaker 3: in Texas.
Speaker 10: And then there's Lebron to the Red So little Boy.
Speaker 7: I gotta say that the Logan Hughes pick is a
Speaker 7: bit shocking there for the Ashers, but they have another
Speaker 7: first rounder, so it might be an underslid deal. Rojas was,
Speaker 7: in my opinion, the best high school in the draft,
Speaker 7: so it's a great pick by Texas. Hopefully Skip is
Speaker 7: still there to have Rojasa drive Raim.
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Speaker 4: Back to give final thoughts on what we all agree
Speaker 4: is a great start to the draft for the Marlins.
Speaker 4: Getting high school shortstop Lombard here, local.
Speaker 2: Guy, tools as hell, athletic. We love it.
Speaker 4: I would say that this is I'll go around to
Speaker 4: you guys and ask you this question, just closing out
Speaker 4: your thought on what they did here.
Speaker 2: It's gonna cost some a lot of money. We went
Speaker 2: through that.
Speaker 4: It's definitely going to be interesting to see what you
Speaker 4: do the rest of this draft, which we'll have cover
Speaker 4: John of course, with Kevin in the building. Four more
Speaker 4: picks to go today and plenty more over the course
Speaker 4: of the weekend. As Eli you alluded to, so tons
Speaker 4: of more talents still to come into the ORG, even
Speaker 4: other Marlins. We'll have to get a little bit crafty
Speaker 4: with it, I think with how they've spread out the money.
Speaker 4: But final thoughts on this guy that they added to
Speaker 4: the ORG, I would say that this is probably my
Speaker 4: favorite first rounder that they've had in a while. I'll
Speaker 4: go to you guys on your thoughts in terms of
Speaker 4: where you think this guy lands in terms of recent
Speaker 4: Marlin's draft picks in your memory. Go ahead, I'll go
Speaker 4: to Meate, Go ahead, I'll go to you first. Is
Speaker 4: this the best in a while for you? Definitely towards
Speaker 4: the top.
Speaker 11: I think out of the guys that they've picked with
Speaker 11: their actual first selection, probably number one of my book
Speaker 11: as well. Back in twenty twenty three, I was a
Speaker 11: huge fan of Thomas White, obviously just knowing what he
Speaker 11: did throughout high school.
Speaker 10: So I love that from the second they did it
Speaker 10: as well.
Speaker 11: But yeah, man, I think that, like I said earlier,
Speaker 11: at this board really worked out in their favorite They
Speaker 11: had the cream and the gram of what guys they
Speaker 11: wanted who might have not a end, you know, in
Speaker 11: their head going into the draft, but it worked out.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 11: I just watched that video back that I was mentioning.
Speaker 11: He also did gymnastic, so like, this guy can pretty
Speaker 11: much do everything. So a mobile guy, bid athlete, and
Speaker 11: if you're playing shortstop, it's gonna be big. It comes
Speaker 11: from a winning family, like everyone's mentioned, so God to
Speaker 11: love everything, not only on the field, but the outside
Speaker 11: factors as well. Work's out in Marlins favor. So ten
Speaker 11: out of ten in my book, and I just just
Speaker 11: want to shout out Sean and Hector are do an
Speaker 11: amazing job covering the draft. I'm not as tapped in
Speaker 11: to the draft as I usually as a lot of
Speaker 11: other things in the Marland's organization, so I know all
Speaker 11: year this is what these guys are working on. So
Speaker 11: this is their super Bowl.
Speaker 10: So could drafts guys. You guys did an amazing job
Speaker 10: once again.
Speaker 3: M yeah, I'm just a sigh of relief on our
Speaker 3: front that at least we had a profile of Lombard.
Speaker 3: That was one of the very first ones that Hector did.
Speaker 3: I haven't organized that way. I think that was a
Speaker 3: very second one in the entire series. Was in very
Speaker 3: early in the process. If we'd waited later, then maybe
Speaker 3: Hector would have skipped it, because it would just seemed
Speaker 3: so unlikely that he would have fallen to this point.
Speaker 3: But sometimes the initial intuition is the right one with that,
Speaker 3: so I'm glad that we had it covered there. It
Speaker 3: is a great twist that he happens to be a
Speaker 3: local guy too. I know the organization doesn't give a
Speaker 3: shit about that. They may say it, I know, you
Speaker 3: know what. I guarantee they're going to say that. They're
Speaker 3: going to bring up the fact that he's from Souflorea,
Speaker 3: They're going to market that, but they don't care whatsoever
Speaker 3: about that. That has never impacted the draft decisions they've made,
Speaker 3: either under this current administration or the previous one or
Speaker 3: the one before that. But I think the fans care
Speaker 3: so for what it's worth, they'll be rooting for him
Speaker 3: extra hard in this guess that helps a little bit
Speaker 3: with the discourse. But I'll get a few more thoughts
Speaker 3: from you guys, and then I want to also circle
Speaker 3: back to this question from Parish in our comments about
Speaker 3: uh where we're just gonna side into the FLF Top
Speaker 3: thirty list. That's an interesting question too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeremiah ahead.
Speaker 4: Historically, I mean, I'm looking at a last few Marlins
Speaker 4: first round as I would say that this has to
Speaker 4: be top of the board. But I'll get your thoughts
Speaker 4: closing it out on him. Is just the best Marlins
Speaker 4: first round or in a.
Speaker 9: Bit, Yeah, I would say so, definitely over the last
Speaker 9: couple of years. You know, I'm trying to go back
Speaker 9: even since noble Meyer. I like this pick over noble
Speaker 9: Meyer and I was a top ten pick. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 9: there's really nothing not to like about him. He's a stud,
Speaker 9: he's an athlete, and he's got a lot of tools
Speaker 9: that the organization can work with. And that's that's a
Speaker 9: big thing for me, you know, thinking about prospects is
Speaker 9: what tools do they got, you know, what's their projection
Speaker 9: long term? Because he's he's young, you know, he's a
Speaker 9: few years away from the majors. But this organization is
Speaker 9: improving in so many ways and you're already seeing results
Speaker 9: of that. I think Lombard fits right in perfectly, and
Speaker 9: he's gonna be one of the higher rated prospects in
Speaker 9: the farm system just as soon as he signs. I mean,
Speaker 9: this guy really is an exciting prospect. I'm really excited
Speaker 9: for his debut in the professional baseball setting, you know,
Speaker 9: the minor leagues. It's a big change from high school baseball.
Speaker 9: But yeah, the power and speeds what intrigues me. And
Speaker 9: then that hit to if they can get that, you know,
Speaker 9: situated at a good level, we're talking about a potential
Speaker 9: four to five star prospect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a huge gat I think we all agree
Speaker 4: that this is a top ten guy in the system.
Speaker 4: Where exactly to answer the question on the screen, you,
Speaker 4: I'll let you go first on this to answer Parish's
Speaker 4: question in terms of our current top thirty, which we
Speaker 4: released right around the midway point of the minor league season,
Speaker 4: I'll let you go ahead and answer him first. So
Speaker 4: where where does he wind up? In your mind on
Speaker 4: the top thirty?
Speaker 3: It is a lock for the top three. I mean
Speaker 3: when we were going through those deliberations that we thought
Speaker 3: there was a clear tier difference between Thomas White and
Speaker 3: Robbie Snelling one, two, and then it was just open
Speaker 3: season from three onward. Comfortably top three, comfortably the top
Speaker 3: position player in the organ. So the question is whether
Speaker 3: it's a fascinating conversation between him White and Snelling, especially
Speaker 3: given the fact that both White and Snelling are injured
Speaker 3: right now. Despite how well they've performed in the minors,
Speaker 3: there's a little bit uncertainty about when they're going to
Speaker 3: resume things. So that's that's one of many difficult comparisons
Speaker 3: between them. Yeah, I mean I would probably my first
Speaker 3: instinct is to say two. I think I might squeeze
Speaker 3: him between Snelling and White, but I could really see
Speaker 3: a case where we put them all the way at
Speaker 3: number one. I think more likely two or three, So
Speaker 3: I'm designed between two or three in my opinion, I would.
Speaker 4: I would agree just the the incredible ceiling of Thomas
Speaker 4: White with the stuff profile, even though he's injured right now,
Speaker 4: high schooler as well, all the time on his side.
Speaker 4: You know, not to bash Lombard at all, but there
Speaker 4: is that slight question about the hit tool, so I
Speaker 4: mean everything together, you're really gonna have to split hairs
Speaker 4: to make a case one or the other.
Speaker 2: I would agree. It's an interesting conversation, but two.
Speaker 4: Would be my spot to put Lombard right now, but
Speaker 4: that could change quickly down the road.
Speaker 2: Nate, what are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 10: I would lean in between two and three as well.
Speaker 11: I want to deal with the rest of you guys
Speaker 11: know how we really evaluate him next to Robie Snelling,
Speaker 11: especially with Snowing going out of Tommy John. I would
Speaker 11: still sit with Thomas at one just because of his
Speaker 11: track record so far in the minors and just the
Speaker 11: overall projectability of that guy. But I think, like Eli said, yeah,
Speaker 11: we did mention that when we were discussing that there's
Speaker 11: a not big DAP, but in between a guy like
Speaker 11: Dylan Lewis and Robbie Stelling, I'm comfortable with putting Lombard
Speaker 11: above Lewis, so definitely higher than I have if you
Speaker 11: guys want to look at it that way. No knock
Speaker 11: on Iva, but getting this guy at fourteen, who I
Speaker 11: believe I've had a fifty five future great than Lombard
Speaker 11: as a sixty on amibi dot com. So it's crazy
Speaker 11: how it works out in this Marlins farm system just
Speaker 11: keeps improving.
Speaker 4: I guess we can close it out with that being
Speaker 4: our thoughts on Lombard, which we're going to talk more
Speaker 4: about him, much more about him as the months.
Speaker 2: Weeks, years go on.
Speaker 4: But I guess the last thing we can mention is
Speaker 4: where do the Marlins go from here in the draft?
Speaker 2: I mean they have a.
Speaker 4: Bit to go today and then much more to go
Speaker 4: in over the weekend. You're looking at their second round
Speaker 4: pick coming up at number fifty two. They just had
Speaker 4: the pick come in for the Red Sox at number
Speaker 4: twenty overall, so we're gonna be waiting a little bit
Speaker 4: for that next Marlins pick. But hector, what's next for
Speaker 4: the Marlins in this draft we mentioned them getting creative?
Speaker 4: Where do you see them going next in terms of
Speaker 4: what could be in the second round in the compound?
Speaker 1: So for me, I have them going pretty deep, at
Speaker 1: least heavy in the college world. And my latest mark
Speaker 1: my second round pick, I had them taking Andrew Williamson
Speaker 1: them an outfielder from UCF.
Speaker 6: He's another Florida kid.
Speaker 1: It'd be I think it'd be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: much the Lombard signing changes things, especially as far as
Speaker 1: sidnability goes. So I could see the Marlins and if
Speaker 1: not today, a lot tomorrow, take a lot of seniors
Speaker 1: that have no you know, that have no you know.
Speaker 6: Fighting, no what's it called leverage as far as as.
Speaker 1: Signing bonus money, So it's gonna be interest to see
Speaker 1: what the Martins do. Obviously, Lebar throws things off a
Speaker 1: little bit just because of how much he's gonna command. Maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the Martins are lucky because he is
Speaker 1: a hometown kid. Maybe they get like a little bit
Speaker 1: of a hometown discal Maybe that was part of the
Speaker 1: reason why he he fell in the draft, where you know,
Speaker 1: he probably slipped out of the top ten and told
Speaker 1: teams like, hey, I'm probably gonna go to the Marlins.
Speaker 1: You know, it'd be better for him and his family
Speaker 1: to stay in Miami because that's where he's from. So
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, for sure, it's my girlfriend will be happy
Speaker 4: with that UCF pick that you called out if that
Speaker 4: is throughout the day go. She went to UCF and
Speaker 4: probably knows that player very well. Anyways, Sean, go to
Speaker 4: you with the same question.
Speaker 2: I mean, college heavy that Hector said is out your
Speaker 2: your thoughts as well. I mean, obviously they're gonna have
Speaker 2: to save money. High school is gonna be hard after
Speaker 2: this guy.
Speaker 4: Not to say that they won't go high school for
Speaker 4: the rest of the draft, but you think college heavy
Speaker 4: would be the consensus.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would probably say college of consensus. Also with
Speaker 7: how the draft has been reorganized that I believe today
Speaker 7: they're doing They're doing more than two rounds. It's like five, five,
Speaker 7: ten rounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first four rounds today, the first one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty five total vases. I don't blame you for
Speaker 3: being confused. That's why I had this graphic ready, just
Speaker 3: that everybody's on the same page, including people tuning in. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they starts. It's a four rounds today, then five through
Speaker 3: twent tomorrow. It's four rounds today, but five total Marlins picks,
Speaker 3: and once again those are these are the ones that
Speaker 3: the Marlins will have.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if I if I had to, I would say
Speaker 7: probably the rest of today is college and maybe they
Speaker 7: have a high schooler or two and in day two
Speaker 7: that they come to an agreement with overnight. But I
Speaker 7: would imagine it's it's college just to get you know,
Speaker 7: Underslot like players that they know for sure, Underslot, maybe Slot,
Speaker 7: just so that way they can probably finish some details
Speaker 7: of Lombard to make sure everything's good. You don't want
Speaker 7: to you don't want him to go off to uh
Speaker 7: to college.
Speaker 12: It's something messes.
Speaker 7: Up here, which is It's rare, but it's happened before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, getting in that guy out of paper, I think that, uh,
Speaker 4: those negotiations start immediately and could go for a little while,
Speaker 4: but I think those negotiations have to.
Speaker 2: Start right now.
Speaker 4: Between the Marlins and mister Lombard, they've been through that
Speaker 4: process before, the dad's been through it, the sons, the
Speaker 4: other son has been through it, so they know.
Speaker 2: What they're doing too.
Speaker 4: On their side, I'm sure that they have an agency
Speaker 4: attached him that knows what they're doing as well, So
Speaker 4: that'll be another interesting conversation to have as this process
Speaker 4: goes on. A great pick, but this process is not
Speaker 4: done with that player yet until he has signed it
Speaker 4: on paper. So that's the next step for the Marlins
Speaker 4: with this with this player who they have to get
Speaker 4: on paper, and I'm sure that they will, but gonna
Speaker 4: gonna take a process. So that's one thing we'll be
Speaker 4: covering as this draft continues to roll on. We'll have
Speaker 4: Kevin in the building for the draft. I'm sure Hector
Speaker 4: and Sean, you guys will be on this with more
Speaker 4: reaction to Bard and whatever else to Marrowin's decided to
Speaker 4: do today and the rest of this weekend. This has
Speaker 4: been a fun conversation to have so far with you guys.
Speaker 4: As you Nate already mentioned it, guys do great work
Speaker 4: on this. This is kind of your thing more than
Speaker 4: any of the rest of the rest of us. So
Speaker 4: it's been great to hear from you guys so far,
Speaker 4: and we look forward to the rest of your coverage
Speaker 4: the rest of this weekend. We have plenty more on this,
Speaker 4: plenty more on the draft, plenty more reaction in terms
Speaker 4: of what picks are coming up, and the newest members
Speaker 4: of the Marlins organization as they join, So stay tuned
Speaker 4: to fish On First for all of that.
Speaker 2: But I think that's all we got here on this.
Speaker 4: This is a fun one, one of our most highly
Speaker 4: attended streams of the year, so we appreciate everybody joining in.
Speaker 2: Be happy today, Marlons fans.
Speaker 4: This is a good day so far, and we'll see
Speaker 4: how much better it can get as the draft girls on.
Speaker 4: For now, let's go Jacob Loombard and let's go fish