1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley, 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: joined as always by Mike Mayer, who wanted me very 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: explicitly to tell everybody that he is editor in chief 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: here at Fantasy Pros. Is really important to him that 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: I use this title. But not as always. We have 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: a guest today. We had a few guests last season. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: We haven't really done it a lot this year, Mayor, 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: but I was talking to George and I was like, 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: you know what, we want to get some guests on. 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: He's great. We talked to him during the Fantasy Fest 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: back in March, so let's bring him on again. George 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Bissel from Road a World editor, writer, a whole bunch 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: of stuff over there, no known official title. George, thanks 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: for coming on with us. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks for having me. It's great to be here. 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm honored to be one of the very few guests 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: to come on this show, and you got me at 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: a perfect time. We're sort of in that little transitional 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: state before we hit the trade deadline next week. We 20 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: just had the MLB Draft, so we had a bunch 21 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: of new names to talk about for Dynasty purposes, and 22 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a lot of prospects moved at the 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: trade deadline as well, so really fun time in the 24 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: baseball calendar. A lot to get to. 25 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: It's always an interesting couple weeks because you have that 26 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: reset at the All Star break. It's kind of the 27 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: unofficial start of the second half, even though technically that 28 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: started a few weeks earlier, but it does feel like 29 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: you're almost in a holding pattern right ahead of the 30 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: trade deadline, just to kind of see how things shake 31 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: out before you really get into the stretch run. So 32 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: it's an interesting time of year, and yeah, we're definitely 33 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: happy to have you on. We're gonna run through some 34 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: news and notes, just general stuff going on in baseball. 35 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: Then we want to talk about your mega update to 36 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: your Fantasy Baseball Dynasty rankings on Roade World, your top 37 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: five hundred players in Dynasty, so we'll talk about that, 38 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: and then we're going to kind of do a second half, 39 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, stretch run, playoff run, kind of strategy guide 40 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: from George how we're approaching the final couple months of 41 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: the season, because it's hard to believe. It feels like 42 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: just yesterday we were on the Fest talking bold predictions 43 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: that we were just mentioned before the show. Were largely 44 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: very incorrect. And here we are here, you know, just 45 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away from the playoffs and head to 46 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: head leagues, and just a few months left in the season. 47 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and dive right in and mayor 48 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: do you want to run us through some of these 49 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: news and notes. I did write down the first one, 50 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: which I was like, not at all fantasy actionable. But 51 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Jotani has five straight games with the homer just worth noticing, 52 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, mentioning it's awesome, He's really good. NOI what 53 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: you could talk about fantasy? What else do we have 54 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: here in the news and notes? 55 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, Tani five trade games. It 56 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: almost feels like any other batter. We'll be like, whoa, 57 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: this is incredible, and of Tani, it's like wow, like 58 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: he's still really good. 59 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: It's like not even news. We rarely even talked about it. 60 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: If you if I didn't like see it yesterday in 61 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: like our discord with someone talking about it, I might 62 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: not have even realized that happened. A couple of names, 63 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: you know, Jordan mentioned the trade deadline is coming up, 64 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: so we might see some big picture names traded. You know, 65 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: some are pitching better than others. The biggest name is 66 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: probably Joe Ryan, just because he's, you know, one of 67 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: the best pitchers out there in baseball right now. He's 68 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: pitching really well, he I said, the biggest name, but 69 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: he also kind of like feels underappreciated. It seems like 70 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: most year it's like because he's really really good. The 71 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 3: Twins still have a couple of years of control on him, 72 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: and so they're like listening for offers, but it kind 73 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: of sounds like the situation where they might need to 74 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 3: be blown away. Dylan Cees not having as good of 75 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: a year, but he could also be traded, So we 76 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: could see a bunch of like big names like that, 77 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: like Dylan Cees, Joe Ryan, Sandy al Contras is an 78 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: interesting case, and maybe even Edward Cabrera on the Marlins. 79 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: Nick Lodolo just through a complete game shut out. He's 80 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: you know, we can talk about him a little bit 81 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: if you want. He's kind of having a really really 82 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: good breakout year for him. But I don't know if 83 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: I buy all the things happening, you know, behind you know, 84 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: all the underlying data is like not necessarily painting like 85 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: the prettiest picture for Lodolo but still having a really 86 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: good year. 87 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: TODJ. 88 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: Bradley, very famous on this show, was demoted the other 89 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: day Shane Boss still in the rotation. George, we will 90 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: fill you in on that joke. 91 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Mayor Mayor has repeatedly mixed up tag one 92 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: time not repeating I just give you a heart. It 93 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: was one time, but the commenters were very merciless about 94 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: it was speak I bitsweedy too, so that's that's all 95 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: he's reference in there. But yes, it was not Shane 96 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Bo's getting demoted. It was TODJ. Bradley. 97 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, very easy to mix those two. 98 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: And also by the way, I corrected myself like immediately, 99 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: like he did, I made the mistake, and I think 100 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: I was afraid. I can't even remember which one I 101 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: actually wanted to talk about. But Warren was like at 102 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: that picture's last start and he's like, are you sure 103 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: he just had a dud of a start, And I 104 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: was like, am I thinking of Shane Baz? I'm thinking 105 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: of Shane Baz? And YouTube comments are still ripped me 106 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: apart for it, so as they want not bitter. I 107 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: definitely don't think about it every day. And then this 108 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: one I thought was interesting because Max Freed is struggling 109 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: a little bit lately, and he's also been dealing with 110 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: a blister, and now it also seems like he has 111 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: another cut on his hand, so his hand is just 112 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: kind of falling apart on him right now, which is 113 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: really important for you and you're a starting picture in 114 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: the big leagues, and I know we talked to whether 115 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: it was the last week the week before with Freed 116 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: and the blisters. Those are the kind of things for 117 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: pictures that like don't really seem like a big deal, 118 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: but they can like derail a season if they just 119 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: linger like that. And then the other thing I was 120 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: potentially wanted to talk about was Jeff Passon's MLB trade 121 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: deadline preview and some of the moves he predicted that 122 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: might happen. 123 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: I want to kind of loop together the trade deadline 124 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: stuff with Passon's preview, and then also some of these 125 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: pictures we mentioned, like Joe Ryan and Dylan Cees George. 126 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: When you look at some of these, like Dylan Sees, 127 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: I think in particular is a really interesting case because 128 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the underlying metrics are kind of continue 129 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: to say like there's you know, Roofer bounce back here, 130 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: a lot of his expected numbers are stronger than what 131 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: is Era actually looks like. Obviously, you know you're getting 132 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: strikeouts to cease, but this is like kind of two 133 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: of the last three years with an Era sitting in 134 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: the mid fours, and you know, hasn't looked anything like 135 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: he did, you know, a few years ago, when he 136 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: was like a true fantasy ace. And the Padres are 137 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: a good team that are going to win games. So 138 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: if he gets traded, do you think it's likely to 139 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: hurt or help his fantasy value? And he's somebody that 140 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: you would be interested in trading for in a fantasy league. 141 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: So this stuff's always pretty contact dependent based on the 142 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: landing spot. You know, obviously they're not going to trade 143 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: him somewhere like the Dodgers, where he'd have a lot 144 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: more potential to win games. It feels like the rest 145 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: of the NLS has falling out of contention there. So yeah, 146 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: I think I always take a wait and see approach 147 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: of these types of moves because it's going to depend 148 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: where he lands, and oftentimes when you have guys changing leagues, 149 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of an adjustment period. They're facing 150 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: a bunch of guys they've never faced before. You don't 151 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: have the book on certain hitters, so there's usually a 152 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: little bit of an adjustment period as they acclimate to 153 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: a new setting, a new league. So those are the 154 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: type of things i'd consider. I think like Edward Cabrera 155 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: to me is the really interesting name because of the 156 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: progress he's made this season. I think he's a guy 157 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: where I think could take a leap if he gets 158 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: into a better situation. Cease is kind of just one 159 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: of those guys. I think he is what he is 160 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: at this point, and like you said, a lot of 161 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: the underlying metrics from like a FIP standpoint suggests he's 162 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: been a little bit unlucky this year. The strikeouts have 163 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: still been there, so yeah, interesting to see where he lands. 164 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: And I try not to change my opinion too much 165 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: on guys who are pretty established, veteran guys with a 166 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: couple of years of track record for. 167 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: Till and Cease mayor is that somebody for you in 168 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: fantasy that you're considering, or is there are you approaching 169 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: this potential trade deadline with a guy like sees in 170 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: mind who I think you can make the case for 171 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: as an interesting trade target even aside from this trade chatter, 172 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: but it also has this other factor going on well. 173 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: I unfortunately was very high on Dillancy's coming into the season, 174 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: so I already have a bunch of dillancies podcast and 175 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: it hasn't been going great in some of my leagues. 176 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: So maybe for me, if he gets trades at the 177 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: right spot, it could be a great sell high opportunity 178 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: for me heading into our fantasy deadline. I was just 179 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: trying to think while George was talking about the context 180 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: and like where I would be like mostly interested in him, 181 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: and he if he. 182 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: Like where he like where he landed, that I would 183 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: be the most interested in him. 184 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: And I was thinking maybe the Houston Astros, like maybe 185 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: one of these organizations that is known for kind of 186 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: getting the most out of pictures. I don't know that 187 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: he's like the perfect fit there, but just kind of, 188 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: you know, one of those organizations that we've we've seen 189 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: like can make small tweaks to pictures and just like 190 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: unlock a new level. 191 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: Not that he's like a young. 192 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: Pitcher, but he does kind of like he has great stuff. 193 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: He just all he's all over the place. 194 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: The Mets are another one where I'd be fascionate and 195 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: see what they could do if they put him in 196 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: the lab there with with Jeremy Heffner, their pitching coach. 197 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: Saint Louis is interesting because it feels like a lot 198 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: of guys go into that environment and have success. So 199 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: I know they need starting pitching. They just designated air 200 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: Fidi for assignment, so they have a big hole there 201 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: in the rotation. I don't Michael McGreevy, they're going to 202 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: give them a shot, but they could always upgrade there. So, 203 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: like Saint Louis would be fascinating to me, the Mets 204 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: teams like that would be the ones I'd be interested in. 205 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: The Yankees, it's tough with the ballpark context, like that's 206 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: a tough spot to go into in the entire al 207 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: East too. It's just tough. 208 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mayor are there any other names in the I 209 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: didn't actually read through because he sent the article kind 210 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: of last second, but not to three under the Bus. 211 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: But any any other names in the article from Jeff 212 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Passen that stand out that you had wanted to hit 213 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: on specifically. I was reading through quickly. I was looking 214 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: at the Orioles just for my own interest, and it 215 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: was he was mentioned that their best asset is Felix Batista, 216 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, maybe not anymore with him 217 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: going on the IL this morning. So that's that's a bummer. 218 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: But but did anybody stand out for you, mayor that 219 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: you had wanted to hit on. 220 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: Not necessarily that I wanted to hit on some of 221 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 3: the bigger names though Darren Duran was in there, your boy, 222 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: Cedric Bowens was in there obviously, cease I was trying 223 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: to think of some of the landing spots. Johanno Suarez 224 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: is an interesting one because it seems like, you know, 225 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: he's a perfect fit for someone like, you know, like 226 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: a team like the Yankees. He's already he's kind of 227 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: like in that sea smolder, like he is what he 228 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: is is not He's not going to change a whole lot. 229 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: Mackenzie Gordon the Cubs was an interesting one. I don't 230 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: know if I see that happening, but the idea of 231 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: him going to the Cubs could be, you know, interesting 232 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: as long as the wind is blowing in when he's 233 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: pitching and not blowing out. 234 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: Uh. 235 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: And then Mitch Keller, you know, some of these there 236 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: are like it seems like the controllable pitching like Joe 237 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: Ryan is going to be really expensive. But maybe someone 238 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: like you know, like a Mitch Keller and and like 239 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 3: and like a Seth Lugo. Those could be really interesting 240 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: pitchers for fantasy if they go to better teams. Passing 241 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: has Keller going to the Blue Jays, which I thought 242 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: was interesting. 243 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: I'll give you. 244 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: One can work are then that's gonna trade Gore. I 245 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I was gonna say, why 246 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one house, Like I wouldn't have thought that. 247 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Where were you going to go with at George. 248 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: I think Merrill Kelly's interesting because I don't think it's 249 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: going to take a lot to pry him out of Arizona. 250 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: They just got swept by the Astros. They're kind of 251 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: out of it. They're looking to pivot. It'll be a 252 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: free agent at the end of the year. Like if 253 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: he could go somewhere like like Boston or New York, Like, 254 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: I think that'd be interesting because he's he's just a solid, 255 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: he's kind of underrated for fantasy. I think he can 256 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: go in get a bunch of wins over the final 257 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: two months and be one of those guys. It's not 258 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: gonna be a flashy acquisition, but I think would make 259 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: a difference on a contender. And I don't think he's 260 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: gonna cost anything remotely close to what you get for 261 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: like a Joe Ryan, So like he's a guy I'm 262 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: watching to see where he ends up because I think 263 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: he could be interesting. 264 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: Do you have like one team player fit George that 265 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: you would most want to see if you could just 266 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: like pick and choose. 267 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: Probably Edward Cabrera to the Dodgers. I think that would 268 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: be fascinating because they would try to get the most 269 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: that could out of him, and they've been like floating 270 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: this weird Dustin may rumor like he's available and they 271 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: just do you trust like Tyler Glasstau and Blake Snell 272 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: to be ready to go in a playoff series? Is 273 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 2: though Tony really going to pitch five innings in a 274 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: playoff game? Like, I just don't know. I think they 275 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: could use another starter, And if you're gonna go big, 276 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: they have a bunch of outfield prospects they could move 277 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: guys who I've been ranking a rote A world for 278 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: the last few months and last few years. I think 279 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: that's a that's an interesting fit for me just because 280 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: of the talent, and I think they could maximize what 281 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: they get out of him. There. 282 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: By the way, just with the trade deadline, you know, 283 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: next week, I just want to everybody know that Mayor 284 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: and I you might our show might get released a 285 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: little bit later next week because we're gonna tape a 286 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: day later to kind of account for seeing all these moves. 287 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: We'd rather react to them than you know, be kind 288 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: of seeing what happens on the day of and everything 289 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: like that, So you might see the show a little 290 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: bit later next week. 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All right, George, 301 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: let's get into this Dynasty midseason update. I was actually 302 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: messaging you just for my own trade. I was like 303 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: getting your opinion on something, and and it's actually a 304 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: trade that I had talked about on the show last 305 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: week with Mayor as well, and you agreed with Mayor, 306 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: and I did end up making the trade. So for 307 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: everybody who was wondering from last week when we talked 308 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: about it, I did acquire a seventy five dollars Ronal 309 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: Lacuna in a win now move here, so we'll see 310 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: how it pans out. We had some other very interesting 311 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: trades going on. 312 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 4: I say, we have to talk about that other trade. 313 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: So there was This league has been going on. I 314 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: think this is year six. I want to say maybe 315 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: year seven. It's been around for over half a decade, 316 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: and we have always had George Mayer's new to the league. 317 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: I've been in the league from the beginning, but we 318 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: have always had a no there's no vetos any trades. Fine, 319 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: you're all adult, you can make the moves you want. 320 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: And we had a few days ago the best team 321 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: in the league, whose team is like completely loaded. They 322 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: have like a very cheap Pete grah Armstrong, a cheap 323 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: Cormin Carroll, an affordable Aaron Judge. They have like Mookie 324 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: and Freddy Free, they have like a one dollar Schooble, 325 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: a two dollars Hunter Brown, like their teams loaded. They've 326 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: done a great job of building the team they traded 327 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: with the last place team who has one good player 328 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: and is absolutely terrible and doesn't respond to anybody else's 329 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: trade offers or anything traded Luis Hill, who obviously has 330 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: pitched one season in the last three years, and Stephen Kwan, 331 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: who's like eleven bucks or something for a twenty six 332 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: dollars Fernando Tatist Junior and the league got pretty up 333 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: in arms about it, and there was a lot of like, listen, 334 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: I know we don't veto, but are we really letting 335 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: the stad Can the guy who traded away Tatus explain 336 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: his position? And like, like, I don't know what he 337 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: could say that would make us be okay with it, 338 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: but can he at least explain it? And it caused 339 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: a very, very huge fight. All espeare some of the details, 340 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: but it was the most messages that have ever sent 341 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: in our league's chat function, and it did end up 342 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: getting reversed. It's the only time we've ever done that 343 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: in that league, and the idea that may Or and 344 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: I were talking about kind of on the side is like, 345 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: this isn't just like, oh, he didn't spend enough to 346 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: get a rental. This is going to impact the league 347 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: for years to come, just giving away Tatis for essentially nothing, 348 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: and it's coming from a manager who's probably going to 349 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: be out of like it seems like he's going to 350 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: quit the league anyway, and it's just like getting rid 351 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: of him on the way out. So we were all pretty, 352 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: like I said, up in arms about it. What do 353 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: you think would you hear that trade? 354 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: Again? 355 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: It was Luis Hill and Stephen Kwan for a very 356 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: affordable guy who would go for twice as much if 357 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: he was available in a salary gap, the Fernando Tatis. 358 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: So that's the challenge with Dynas Siegs RCE. You're dealing 359 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: with different gaps in information, attentiveness, strategy. I am opposed 360 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: to vetoing any trade just because I think as long 361 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: as someone believes that it's in the best interests of 362 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: their team, I don't think we should be delving into 363 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: their methodology whatever. I think they can do whatever they 364 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: want with their roster as long as there's no evidence 365 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: of anything from a collusion standpoint, anything of that nature, 366 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: and it doesn't sound like these two teams are working 367 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: together there was anything like that. I think it's a yeah, 368 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: I probably would not have done that trade. But I 369 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: just think we should let people make their own decisions, 370 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: and I believe in just an open process of staying 371 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: out of things. I've become very strong in this belief 372 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: just because I think it gets tough because where do 373 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: you draw the line? I think that's it's a slippery 374 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: slope for me not to make this like a political 375 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: argument or anything, but I view it as like, where 376 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: do you draw the line between what's an acceptable trade? 377 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: Where I might have an objection based on it, it's 378 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: going to hurt my team that you're helping this other 379 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: team in their contention cycle. So I just think if 380 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: it's a bad trade and they're going to stay in 381 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: the league, they will learn from that experience very quickly 382 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: not to do that in the future. 383 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: So one of the things, well, first of all, Mayor 384 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: asked me before the show. He was like, should we 385 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: ask George about this trade because it was such a 386 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: big deal, And I was like, I'm afraid he's going 387 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: to say we shouldn't have vitoed it, and then of 388 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: course that's what you did. Philosophically, I generally agree, like 389 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't think every trade needs to be fair. There 390 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: was a trade last season that everybody was really mad 391 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: about that did not get reversed that I was on 392 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: the side of guys just let this happen. It was like, 393 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: this was like a year ago, is Jackson Holliday and 394 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: Assie Albi's for like a very expensive Mookie, a very 395 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: expensive lad Guerrero and a cheap Chris Sale And everybody 396 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: was like, you're just giving up a prospect who struggled 397 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: and a second baseman who's hurt, and you're getting all 398 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: these guys. But it's like, yeah, they're like that's your choice, though, 399 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: like these are really expensive guys. If you want to 400 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: keep him sale, you know, who knows if his arm's going. 401 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: To stay on. 402 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Like I didn't agree with the trade, but I was like, 403 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: it's fine to make that. Teams are allowed to do 404 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: what they want. This one was like, boy, I fighters 405 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: really struggle to justify this one, and the guy he 406 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: eventually did, like over twenty four hours later, finally like 407 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: come out and say why he'd done the trade, and 408 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: he was like, well, Tatisse was like really expensive, so 409 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to keep him anyway. We were like, 410 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: he would go for a sixty in a if you 411 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: throw him back, and you're he's twenty six dollars, what 412 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: do you mean he's expensive? 413 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: So yes, the logic's not right there. But the other 414 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: thing I'll say is I don't want to absolve the 415 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: the It was a first place contending team going for 416 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: the championship. I don't want to absolve them completely too, 417 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: because if you are in the process of potentially making 418 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: a trade like that and you know how it looks, 419 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: I might float this out to other people in the league, like, hey, 420 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know, close to finalizing a deal. As 421 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: Jeff Passon would say, this is gonna ruffle some feathers. 422 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: You know what do you guys think? I would always 423 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: be a little bit cognizant of that, because your relationship 424 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: with your league mates, and this is kind of maybe 425 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: the overall broader point of this, your relationship with your 426 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: trading partners, your league mates in a dynasty league is 427 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 2: more important than anything else. So you have to understand 428 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna do this type of move, you're probably burning 429 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: bridges with everybody else in the league, and that's gonna 430 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: hurt your ability to make moves in the future. So 431 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: just be cognizant of that when you're on both ends 432 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: of the spectrum, whether you're trying to compete and pushing 433 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: the chips to set on the table or you're rebuilding, 434 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: because whatever moves you make, people are gonna remember, hey, 435 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: he did that or she did that five years ago, 436 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna forget about it. So just be 437 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: mindful of that whenever you're making trades. 438 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: This manager did quite the opposite. 439 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: He was gonna say he could have used that advice. 440 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: He ended up crashing out in epic fashion and actually 441 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: left the league after this happened. But he did it 442 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: in a I'm gonna burn bridges on the way out 443 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: kind of a way. It was like a I get 444 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: his frustration of like, hey, I made this trade, why 445 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: doesn't it stand? But he was like he did not 446 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: take that approach with it, which is this right. I 447 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: think that's a good piece of advice though for anybody 448 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: in general in trading, is to keep the other managers 449 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: in mind in that regard. The last thing I'll say 450 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: about it before we move on to your your rankings 451 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: is I had offered uh Francisco Lindor for tattoos and 452 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: not even gotten a response. So it was extra frustrated 453 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: for me to be like, you didn't give me a response, 454 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: but now you're accepting hill and and Kwan instead, Like 455 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: that was tough for me. 456 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: Speaking of Georgia's rankings as we transition, do you do 457 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: you want to well, actually, I'll ask you, George, do 458 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 3: you know we're right off the top of your head 459 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: where you have Louise Heal ranked in your dynasty rankings. 460 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: I want to say it's around two hundreds. Let me 461 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: pull it up deeper than that, is it? 462 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: Let me say. 463 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: I have it? 464 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: Want me to tell you. 465 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: Let's see. 466 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: Growing. 467 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: I think he was one fifty at the start of 468 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: the year. 469 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, two ninety five and tattis shockingly is in the 470 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: top ten. 471 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: So part part of that health concerns though, as we 472 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: saw play out where he's missed five months at the 473 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: start of the year basically, so for sure, pictures, it's 474 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: they're volatile. I don't know, it's so. 475 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: Let's let's get into the rankings. Then from that perspective 476 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: when you're when you're doing this, how much are you 477 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: considering the volatility of pictures, not just in terms of 478 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: volatility even when healthy, but specifically when it comes to 479 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: health you have you have trigged. Schooble is obviously third. 480 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: He's amazing, right, like everybody would be happy to have 481 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: him in Dynasty, but he's ahead of hitters like La 482 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: Da La Cruz, Ronald Cooney Junior has his own injury stuff, 483 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Are the three guys right after him in 484 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: your rankings? Does the fact that Schooble is a pitcher, 485 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: were you ranking him inside the top three? 486 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: So I resisted pushing Schooble and Schemes into my top 487 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: five range just because of the volatility pitchers. That's always 488 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: been a thing I would always prefer as a central 489 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: kind of roster building philosophy to center my build around 490 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: hitters under twenty five. That's kind of what I'm looking at. Obviously, 491 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: if you're in a startup, you can go first couple 492 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: of rounds, take best player available. There's not a huge 493 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: gap there unless you're talking about like a Freddie Freeman 494 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: type in the early stages of a draft. But I 495 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: want to prioritize getting hitters under twenty five. That's how 496 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: I would view things, just because with pictures you never 497 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: really know what you're going to get. And part of 498 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: that's because like a Jacob Mizerowski is a great example 499 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: where he's a guy who was probably a top fifty 500 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: range dynasty prospect coming into the year because of the 501 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: control issues they were committed developing as a starter, and 502 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: then the command takes a leap and all of a sudden, 503 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: he looks like a potential top fifteen starting pitcher for 504 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: fantasy purposes. So that's the type of thing where you 505 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: can kind of find and identify those guys a little 506 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: bit later on, whereas I don't know that you need 507 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: to be investing early on in those elite, upper echelon guys. 508 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: But I will say for Scoogl and Schiens, the reason 509 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: they're ranked that highly is because the gap between them 510 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: and the rest of the starting pitching pool is pretty 511 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: immense at this point, even with those injury concerns baked in. 512 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: You look at guys who we thought were relatively safe, 513 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: like Logan Gilbert, people like that, who were Corbyn Burns, 514 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: guys who had been pretty durable they've missed time this 515 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 2: year due to injuries, so no one's really safe or reliable. 516 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: But when you look at those two guys, I think 517 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: they're pretty much head and shoulders above the rest of 518 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: the starting pitching crop at this point. 519 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: How do you weigh a breakout season when you're looking 520 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: at dynasty do you try to give credit and say, 521 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: this is an elevation of this player's skill set and 522 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: game and the production we can expect going forward. I 523 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: look at a guy like Cal Rowley, who mayor actually 524 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: has in that dynastague we were just talking about. He's 525 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: fortieth on the list right here. He's been insanely good 526 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: this season. Right Obviously he's had power and stuff in 527 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: the past, but you know, thirty nine homers already, you know, 528 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: won the home run Derby at a position like catcher 529 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: where you're just not getting that kind of production, So 530 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: forty on the one hand, might seem kind of low. 531 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, you know he's a catcher, 532 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: so like that, you know, will be a little more 533 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: wear and tear on the body. It's also kind of 534 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: a later breakout, at least a breakout to this level. 535 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: So how do you kind of square those two things 536 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: when you're breaking a guy like Raley. 537 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: So when I open my spreadsheet and I sit down, 538 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: I go, okay, let's start this process. I go in 539 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: with the premise that I don't know anything. These rankings 540 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: are a snapshot in time. You're going to be wrong 541 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: all the time. So what you're trying to do is 542 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: balance all those variables. And catchers are weird, first of all, 543 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: Like their aging curves are weird, their development tracks are weird, 544 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: like Gary Sanchez had like ten five rights on prospect 545 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: lists forever, like he was a prospect forever then finally 546 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: got here and he's still around. So catchers because of 547 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: all the things they have to manage, like their breakouts 548 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: are weird. And for Raleigh, I just look at this 549 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: as like an tension of a guy we kind of 550 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: knew was a pretty much borderline elite power hitter for 551 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: his position, And this feels to me like a career 552 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: kind of outlier year where I don't want to overreact 553 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: to the point that I'm pushing him, like into the 554 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: top ten of these rankings or anything like that. He 555 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: would not be a first round pick if we did 556 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: a startup dynasty next spring. But you have to also 557 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: weigh that the production he's given you in the present 558 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: is probably an early round contributor. So that's someone I 559 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: want to value in that top forty to fifty range. 560 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: I just you can't overlook what he's doing. It's undeniable, 561 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: But I tried to view it where A good example 562 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: of this is like Lawrence Butler when he's kind of 563 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: made the leap in the second half of last year. 564 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: You look at him and say, Okay, I think this 565 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: is a legitimate skills growth. I think what he's doing 566 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: is real. I'm going to be aggressive and pushing him higher, 567 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: whereas someone like a Nolan Jones it was maybe more 568 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: context dependent because he was doing this in coors Field. 569 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: So I try to balance that a little bit more 570 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: when I look at the environment and what actually changed 571 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: with a hitter. Did they make adjustments where their real improvements? 572 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: Can I find evidence that what they're doing is real? 573 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: Those are the things I kind of look for. Then 574 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm weighing when I do these lists. 575 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: Mayor, how do you feel about the fact that your 576 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: best player is only fortieth on his rankings? 577 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny to say that because I was pulling 578 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: up my dynasty rankings and I haven't even lower, so 579 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: I feel pretty good if George likes him more than 580 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: I do, so I might have to bump them up 581 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: because I have him in the fifties, so if I 582 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 3: could piggyback on that out, I was going to ask 583 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: you about a few specific players, so I'll rather than 584 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: go one by one, I'll just throw a few at you. 585 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: One of the more interesting ones I noticed was Cam 586 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: Smith at sixty eight. He's having a really interesting year obviously, 587 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: you know, really young prospect, came up struggled, but has 588 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: been quietly very good for a while now. Your Don 589 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: Alvarez at twenty is also very interesting to me, with 590 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: the age and health concerns there. I looked at my 591 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: rankings and I don't have a much lower than you, 592 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: so but it did jump out to me. And then 593 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: the last one is why do you hate Roman Anthony 594 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 3: at thirty two. 595 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't know that I hate Real and Anthony. I'll 596 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: start with Cam Smith. First of all, I'm like a 597 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: sort of Red Sox fan, so I take that personally. 598 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: I like, but I don't know Cam Smith. I think 599 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: he's illustrative of the fact that the gap between Triple 600 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: A and the majors is maybe wider than ever. You know, 601 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: he's one of five guys from the twenty twenty four 602 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: draft class that have reached the majors. You know, Ryan 603 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: Johnson with the asterisks is like the fifth guy. But 604 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: what you're seeing is the timeline between when a guy 605 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: gets drafted and when they reach the majors, especially for 606 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: college hitters in college pitchers, it's getting compressed to the 607 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: point that the development time's not what it probably was 608 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: a few years ago. So these guys are kind of 609 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: learning on the fly, so to speak, at the big 610 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: league level, like they're facing that caliber of pitching for 611 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: really the first time. I just like, I don't think 612 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: the quality that you're seeing of pitching in Triple A 613 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 2: is great and that's that that matters, because you get 614 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: guys coming up facing stuff they've never really faced before, 615 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: and they got to adjust the league adjust to them. 616 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: It's constant battle and likes. There's countless examples of guys 617 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: who've struggled at the outside of their careers, like Alex 618 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: Bregman's the example I always kind of go back to. 619 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: He was like one for forty or something like that 620 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: to start his career obviously he was fine, So just 621 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: always be a little bit like wary of overreacting to early, 622 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: small sample sized stuff, especially with a guy like Cam Smith. 623 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: I was pretty aggressive pushing him in the in the 624 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: preseason update to these rankings, and I feel like it's 625 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: kind of been justified in terms of like what we 626 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: were seeing from like a scouting standpoint has showed up 627 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: on the field the last couple of weeks. So yeah, 628 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: I think the other NW you mentioned, Jordan Alvarez, Yeah, 629 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: he's another one where it's just really tough because I 630 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: think I always trying to think of other examples of 631 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: these types of situations. That's what I've been doing throughout 632 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: the show today. But like Kyle Tucker missed a ton 633 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: of time last year with a weird like knee Brews 634 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: that was revealed was a hairline fracture. Once again, it's 635 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: the Astros. So is that an Astros thing? Maybe? But 636 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: I I just think they're at the point like they're 637 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: not going to push him, They're not going to risk 638 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: any sort of setbacks, like they can't do that with 639 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: a guy who's basically one of their franchise cornerstones. So 640 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 2: we looked at Kyle Tucker's example, like he came back 641 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: and was fine this the following season. So I don't 642 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: want to overreact with a guy with that kind of 643 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: established elite track record. Now he's maybe a more challenging 644 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: example because of just the profile, like a bigger guy 645 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: where maybe this is a hand issue. Does that impact 646 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: the swing the power? Maybe, But I also don't want 647 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: to push him into the back half of the top 648 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: fifty and then he goes out and hits forty home 649 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: runs next year. Yeah, because I overreacted to a hairline fracture. 650 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 2: So those are the types of things that I think 651 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: are challenging the WAGH when you do these rankings, and 652 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: you might be wrong, but I always want to kind 653 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: of give a little bit of difference to guys with 654 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: a track record with the rankings. 655 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, you're done. 656 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: Alvarez as difficult to rank because I was looking at Ears, 657 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: I was like, wow, twenty seems high. 658 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 4: Where do I have him? 659 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: And I have him at twenty four, so I'm pretty 660 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: high too, And then I was like, where do I 661 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: want to move him down? But like, where do I 662 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: move him down? I have Mookie bets too high. I'm 663 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: gonna have to drop him down because it's what do 664 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: you Well, I'll throw it back to you, what are 665 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: your thoughts on Mookie bats? You have him at thirty six? 666 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: But is this year the beginning of the end? 667 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say the end. I think it's maybe the 668 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: end of like the elite stolen base production, Like that's 669 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: that's what I kind of look at as on the decline. 670 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: He's obviously he's going to miss time on Friday I 671 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: with a personal issue, So maybe there's stuff going on 672 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: off the field that's been impacting him. They've kind of 673 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: tried to move him around in the lineup. They've been 674 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: batting him lead off the last couple of games until 675 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: they get Max Monsey back and then we'll see how 676 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: things shake out there. 677 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's a really weird start to the 678 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: season where he lost a ton of weight and people 679 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: were really concerned about what he what he was going 680 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: to look like to start the season. 681 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 682 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: So again this goes back to like the Kyle Tucker 683 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: like weird outlier like Ronald Lukunya missed seasons with injuries. 684 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: Like when you have a guy who's that talented, I 685 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: never want to just dismiss the possibility that they can 686 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: take some time off and come back and get things 687 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: right and be back in order. Like Corey Seeker is 688 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: a good exit, Like he misses time all the time 689 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: with injuries, and then he comes back and he looks 690 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: like the best hitter on the planet sometimes. So yeah, 691 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: just guys with that type of extended track record, I'm 692 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: very hesitant to bump them lower. But when you start 693 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 2: to creep into the mid thirties, it can it can 694 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: start to look like a roller coaster where the decline 695 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: is pretty precipitous and it comes quick. So just be 696 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: aware of that with any guy in their thirties. 697 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm over here distracted because Stephen Kwan has two 698 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: home runs today and I'm like, maybe we should have 699 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: let the trade go through, all right, All yeah, I 700 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, George, were there any names that 701 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: really surprised you when putting this together? Like you kind 702 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: of got to the end of you go, this is 703 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: the right place. I'm not going to move him, But 704 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 1: I can't believe I have this guy as low as 705 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: I do, or this guy as high as I do. 706 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: So Michael Harris to me stands out as the name. 707 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: I can't figure out what the heck to do with 708 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: because from from like a scouting standpoint, if I told 709 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: you there was a guy who was only twenty four 710 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: and he had the type of production that he had 711 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: had earlier in his career at the big league level, 712 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: you'd say, this guy is like a top twenty player 713 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: in the league. Like he'd had basically three straight seasons 714 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: of close to twenty homers and twenty steals with borderline 715 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: elite batting averages. Most of that time, you'd say that 716 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: guy is like a first round pick, and he's just 717 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: not this year. This year's kind of been a weird disaster, 718 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: kind of outlier. And I again, that's one where I'll 719 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: circle and I'll go to try and find an explanation, 720 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: because there's something will come out in reporting. You know, 721 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: was it mechanical, wasn't mental? Was it physical? We don't know, 722 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: So we'll see he's the one who stands out for 723 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: me on the hitter side. And from a pitching standpoint, 724 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: I think Andrew Painter is exceptionally tough to rank because 725 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: he had all the time off due to injury. He's 726 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: come back, the stuff hasn't totally been top of the 727 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: rotation at the Triple A level, the production certainly hasn't 728 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: been But do you really ever want to write off 729 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: a guy who the entire industry said was basically like 730 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: a generational type of pitching prospect who could have been 731 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: in the majors. It's like a nineteen twenty year old No, 732 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: So he to me is really tough to forecast because 733 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to drop him too far, and then 734 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: he goes out and pitches well in the majors and 735 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: I have to reconfigure everything. So he's one who stands 736 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: out to me from that standpoint, from a prospect side, 737 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: And then, like Spencer Jones is the obvious name, like 738 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: you if you believe the approach can work, like if 739 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: he can be like better Joey Gallo with the straightouts, Sure, 740 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: but there's just not a lot of evidence historically speaking, 741 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: to show a guy coming up and striking out like 742 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: over thirty percent of the time and being a really 743 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: productive power hitter in the majors, So proceed with caution. 744 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: He's got a three homer game today as we record this, 745 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: so he's been on an absolute heater, but the plate 746 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: skills again once he gets to the big leagues and 747 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: he's facing better competition, Like, I don't know that the 748 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: profile is going to work. He's just not going to 749 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: make enough contact. 750 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: I want to ask you kind of one last question 751 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: on the Dynasty stuff as we transition into the last 752 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: segment of the show, which is kind of the second 753 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: half strategy guide. Do you find yourself using the Dynasty 754 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: update and rankings in redraft decisions, Like, if you're moving 755 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: a guy up in Dynasty, are you more likely to say, 756 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think we're going to see some real 757 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: value added between now and the end of the year, 758 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: So this is a guy I want to trade for 759 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: for that playoff stretch run in my fantas league for 760 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: this season. Do you use the Dynasty rankings in that way? 761 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always kind of look for those guys where 762 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: I was maybe higher on them than the rest of 763 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: the crowd, and then maybe now they're producing in the 764 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: majors and you know, maybe there's a little bit of 765 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: a disconnect between what the public perception of their value 766 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: is and what I feel it is. And I think 767 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: that's a good process, you know, kind of a theme 768 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: that that fantasy managers should be using. Like when I 769 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: look at you know, excuse me. When I go through, 770 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 2: uh sort of my rankings, I use my colleague Matthew Pooley. 771 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: I use a lot of his top three hundred. He 772 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: does a top three hundred. He pretty much updates it 773 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: every week. So I try to go through there and see, 774 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: like where am I missing on guys and their present 775 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: value as opposed to like the future long term, because 776 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: I try to use like a three year window when 777 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: putting these rankings together, so the production right now matters 778 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: a lot more than what you're going to get in 779 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: three years from a guy. So I think that's a 780 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: big part of my process, is incorporating a guy's present 781 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: value and what he means right at the moment. Like 782 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: cal Raley's a good example of that, where it's like, Okay, yeah, 783 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: probably need to push him a lot higher because of 784 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: the impact he's making right now where he's basically the 785 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: number one player in fantasy. Uh. So you try to 786 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: weigh that and not overreact too much with it. But 787 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 2: it's definitely part of the process. 788 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: I think for me, I actually want to really quick 789 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: you have to do a more thing on the on 790 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: the dynast decide because you mentioned a three year window, 791 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: how do you incorporate the guys who were just drafted 792 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: into this so we haven't seen play professionally yet, and 793 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: you can keep this quick because obviously these are guys 794 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: that are a couple of years away, but like what 795 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: is your process for including them in these rankings? 796 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 2: So situation, age, proximity, those are the three biggest things 797 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: I look at, And obviously like Ethan Holliday is a 798 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 2: good sort of jumping off point for that because he 799 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: maybe isn't going to be the first one to reach 800 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: the majors, It's probably going to be at least a 801 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: couple of years. But the context of a hitter with 802 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 2: his type of power profile in Colorado that matters. That's 803 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: why he's the number one guy in my rankings. Like 804 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: I try to view things from a historical perspective and 805 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: looking at recent draft classes, having done this a couple 806 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: of years, it's like, Okay, who does this situation in 807 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: talent remind me of like Connor Griffin what a year ago, 808 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: really highly thought of prospect and then he didn't play 809 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: after he got drafted, so we didn't basically see him 810 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: on a field till spring training. And now I think 811 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: he's pretty much universally regarded as one of the top 812 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: three prospects in baseball from a dynasty standpoint, so that matters. 813 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: Like I'm just not writing a guy off completely because 814 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: he's eighteen in a shortstop, like I try to look 815 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 2: at the situation and the talent. And I've also tried 816 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: to be a little more aggressive with the college pitchers 817 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: like Jamie Arnold's a good example of this from the 818 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: current draft class, where you know, I want to push 819 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: him a little bit higher. Some of the other pictures 820 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 2: as well, you know, because they're probably going to reach 821 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: the majors within a year. To Kate Anderson, I think 822 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: for the Mariners probably get to be the majors at 823 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: some point in twenty twenty six. So those are the 824 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: things I'm trying to balance a little bit more. Is 825 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: just like being aware that some of these guys might 826 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 2: get to the big leagues a lot faster than we thought. 827 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into kind of your back half, 828 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, end of the year's strategy guide, And I 829 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: promise I'll let Mayor talk again at some point, but 830 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: I want to kind of I want this to be 831 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: very flexible, right, Like I think this can go in 832 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: a number of different directions, and I want to know 833 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: what is important to you, and I will give mere credit. 834 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: Actually this is kind of his idea for a part 835 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: of this discussion. But I want to know, like when 836 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: you sit down and say, Okay, we're at the end 837 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: of July, I'm trying to you know, make the playoffs 838 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: and head to head league. I'm trying to make that 839 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: final push in a roto league. Whatever it is, what 840 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: do you care about? What are you paying attention to? 841 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: Is it specific players, is it overall league trends, is 842 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: it anything else? Is it a certain stat that you 843 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: try to keep an eye on? What is it that you, 844 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: George sit down and go this is And it's a 845 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: time of year where we know a lot of people 846 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: are splitting their focus between baseball and football. It's a 847 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: time of year where the grind of the season can 848 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: wear on you. They call them the dog days of 849 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: August for a reason. So if you could kind of 850 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: owne in on a couple of key pieces to pay 851 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: attention to, what is that for you? 852 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: So part of my responsibilities with rot World is doing 853 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: player news five days a week, So I am constantly 854 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 2: looking at lineups, injuries, I've kind of referred to this 855 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: as like vibes is basically how I kind of view it, 856 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: Like who's producing and why? Like is it the competition 857 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 2: they're facing here? Like a good I've use a good 858 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 2: example a bunch of times, the Red Sox they go 859 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: on that big ten game winning streak. Was that the 860 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: Red Sox or was that the competition? You know, I 861 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: was impressive what they did against the race to close 862 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 2: out the first half, but you know they beat up 863 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: on the Nationals, the Rockies, and then you look at 864 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: strength the schedule in the second half. So I tried 865 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 2: to look at each situation like individually, and I try 866 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: to look at the schedule, the lineup like is there 867 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: a reason this guy has been moved up in the lineup? 868 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,959 Speaker 2: Is there a reason he's producing at this type of level, 869 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 2: So especially with younger players, because that's where I think 870 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 2: you can see the biggest jumps in value is all 871 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: of a sudden they're in a prominent lineup spot. Like 872 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 2: if a Jack kagal Noon got hot like and started 873 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: going on a power surge, you know that matters. So 874 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: you want to be quick to adjusting to that. Is 875 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 2: there going to be a change in a closing situation, 876 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: who's struggling right now, who's hurt. So just staying up 877 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: to date on information, I think you can kind of 878 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: get a sense of which player's values are changing the most, 879 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: Like Mookie Betts is a good example. Like Mike brought up. 880 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 2: You know, if you're not plugged in, you're probably not 881 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 2: going to notice that he's been batting like one eighty 882 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: for a month, and you might trade for him thinking 883 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: he's gonna come back and be really productive, but there's 884 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 2: not a lot of evidence or signs that, like mentally, 885 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: he's at the point that's going to happen for him 886 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: right now. So those are things to watch for. I 887 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: think it's very specific. I try to go like each 888 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 2: individual player and just kind of figure out what the 889 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: vibes are and then try to figure out what future 890 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: outlook is for them, because if you start looking at 891 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 2: leaderboards and all these different factors, you're gonna end up 892 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: like Zach Alfanakis with the numbers going around your head, 893 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 2: like you're just going to drown in information because you're 894 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: just going to be able to find something to back 895 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: up whatever your premise is. So just kind of hone 896 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: in on the player and try to figure it out 897 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: on your own would be the best advice I can 898 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: give you, because at the end of the day, it's 899 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: your roster, your decisions, So I want to be comfortable 900 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 2: with my assessment and trust my own judgment on those calls. 901 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: So mayor you mayor I want to ask you actually 902 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: about the news side of this too, and you can 903 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: jump in a second also, But because you oversee our 904 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: news desk here, so you are also kind of drowning 905 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: in a lot of information. How do you sort through 906 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: the noise? 907 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 4: I don't. I just I just hate all the noise 908 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 4: and I hate my life now. 909 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 3: I think you just have to, like, like you said, 910 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 3: your your attention is starting to get split, Like you 911 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 3: know you're going to be abandoning the show pretty soon 912 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 3: to go focus on football and leave me to do 913 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: it by myself. 914 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: But you know, as is required of me by the 915 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: management here, not something I'm pouting the table to do. 916 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: This is why when training camp opens, you're gone. 917 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. 918 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 3: This is why people think we don't like each other, 919 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 3: which is another thing that comes up in the comments 920 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 3: pretty frequently. They think that Whorrem and I like actively 921 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: dislike each other. 922 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: And they're just again you keep using this word to 923 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: think more like they notice. 924 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 3: It doesn't help because Worm makes that joke every week. 925 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 4: What was the question? 926 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: Let stopped listening about about the news and just kind 927 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: of you know how there is so much news out 928 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: there right like that it is easy to drown it 929 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: and kind of how you sort through it? 930 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, sorry, I think that. 931 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: I think the one thing George mentioned was big is 932 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 3: paying attention to lineups and more importantly, why players are 933 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 3: moving up in the lineup. Like you mentioned Mooki Bets 934 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 3: moving into the leadoff spot. I didn't actually didn't know that. 935 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 3: I just know that it's been a down year for 936 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 3: all the teams that where I roster Mooki Bets. But yeah, 937 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 3: I think it's it's knowing like which which information to 938 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 3: pay attention to. There's a lot of just like one 939 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: off lineup trends. But you know, if if a guy 940 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 3: is just like you know, kind of like batting six 941 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 3: or seventh, and now he's like every few days he's 942 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 3: beat adding first or second, and then you realize, oh, 943 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 3: whenever they face a lefty he moves up in the order. 944 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 3: That could be really valuable information when like setting your lineups, 945 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 3: whether it's you know, setting your line up for the week, 946 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: or like they got four lefties this week and you 947 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 3: know this fringe roster player for me is going to 948 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: be batting second most of the week. 949 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 4: So it's kind of like. 950 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: Filtering through what's the important news, which is the easy answer, 951 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 3: I cheated. 952 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 2: It's basically figuring out what's actionable and what's not. Like 953 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: this picture is this picture? Have they made an adjustment 954 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: and now they're in a point where they're going to 955 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: have sustained success or like you said, why they've moved 956 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 2: up in the lineup is this prospect, you know, playing 957 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: themselves into a more prominent role. And once like like 958 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: if Kobe Mayo goes on a hot streak and then 959 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Ryan o'haran gets straight at the deadline, 960 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's playing every day, whereas he 961 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: had started four games in the last month. So those 962 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: are the types of things you want to know about, 963 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: you know, and stay ahead of, because then you're going 964 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: to be first to react when when the moment comes 965 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 2: to make a move. 966 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: What what stats, George, at this point in the year 967 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: do you care about if you're specifically in the context 968 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: of identifying a guy you want to pick off off 969 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: waivers or even a guy that is roster everywhere that 970 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: you want to trade for. Is it something as simple 971 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: as like, oh, I just want to look at who's 972 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: got the big differences between their era and they're expected 973 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, underlying information. Is it I want to look 974 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: for guys who like their actual like pitch usage has 975 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: made significant changes this year, and we're deep, well, you know, 976 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: way more than deep enough into the season to care 977 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: about that. On the hitter side, is it like I 978 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: want to look at stat cast and see who has 979 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: the highest average exit velocity. Like if there's one or 980 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: two metrics that again, at this point in the year, 981 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: when you're looking for good kind of by low targets 982 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: or even a buy high target, what are you looking 983 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 1: at to say like this is legitimate or this is 984 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: something that I think is going to change for the 985 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: better moving forward. 986 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: So that's a really great question because a lot of 987 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 2: these metrics, they're more useful from like a full season 988 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: context as opposed to isolating them into really small samples. 989 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: So like the difference between er and PIP like that 990 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 2: might show up over the course of six months, but 991 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 2: it's not really actionable in a smaller sample. And there's 992 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 2: a lot of like with the newer stackast metrics, like 993 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 2: I'm not smart enough to tell you what I'm looking 994 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 2: at sometimes, not that I don't understand what the stat means, 995 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: but I don't know how to how to make it actionable. 996 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: Like when we first started getting bad at ball metrics, 997 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 2: we had to figure out like how many bad at 998 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: ball events before this becomes like a reliable indicator, And 999 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: then it was okay, we've run the data. It's like 1000 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 2: forty bad at ball events. Now we can draw conclusion 1001 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 2: it's like one guy. So that's the type of stuff 1002 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: I want to look at over a period of time, 1003 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,439 Speaker 2: like is a guy making harder contact? I think swing 1004 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 2: speed has proven to be one of these metrics that 1005 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: we can look at and say, Okay, maybe there's a 1006 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 2: physical issue with a guy because all of a sudden, 1007 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 2: he's not swinging is hard Like that, you know, is 1008 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 2: he dealing with something that's limiting his ability to swing hard? 1009 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 2: So that's something that can show up strike out minus 1010 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: walk right for me is kind of the one I 1011 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 2: go to for pictures because I think it's pretty right there, 1012 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: your your strikeout rate and your walker rate kind of 1013 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 2: don't really change a lot. It kind of is what 1014 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: it is, Like, it's hard to fake that over an 1015 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: extended period of time. If you have bad control, you're 1016 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 2: gonna walk a lot of guys. It's pretty straightforward. It's 1017 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 2: been proven out over time. So those to me, I 1018 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: think are the most like straightforward ones I can look 1019 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 2: at and say, okay that if I'm going to pick 1020 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 2: up a picture, it's for that reason. So yeah, those 1021 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: are the big ones that for me I look at. 1022 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 2: And then obviously upcoming schedule matters too, like the matchups 1023 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 2: matter a lot at this point of the year. 1024 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fewer games you have left, the more who 1025 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: you play is going to matter. 1026 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 3: Just to just to piggyback on that, because I thought 1027 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 3: George made some good points there. The swing speed one 1028 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 3: or the bad speed one is a really interesting one 1029 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 3: because a lot of these stats they kind of, like 1030 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 3: you said. 1031 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 4: They come out, we're not really sure what to do 1032 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 4: with them. But then also as we get like. 1033 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 3: More and more data and and you know, we we 1034 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 3: can then like comparing like year over year, you start 1035 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 3: to see like what do these trends mean? And I 1036 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 3: was actually watching a Red Sox game the other day 1037 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 3: and they were talking about Daron Durant and how a 1038 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: lot of his contact numbers are way down this year, 1039 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: but his swing his bat speed is actually way up, 1040 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 3: and it's actually they think he's swinging harder and making 1041 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 3: less contact. So it's kind of interesting, like you think, like, oh, 1042 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 3: bat speed is up, like that's all good, but he's 1043 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 3: having a down year offensively despite a big uptick in 1044 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 3: bat speed. 1045 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 4: So it's interesting. The more we learn about this stuff 1046 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,919 Speaker 4: and what it can mean. 1047 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 2: And it kind of all ties into the point like 1048 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 2: how to figure out what matters, Like he's not playing 1049 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 2: as much against lefties either, so he's seeing fewer pitches 1050 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 2: and he's not being as confident, maybe getting more aggressive 1051 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 2: in those swings against lefties too. That's leading some more 1052 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 2: struggles there. So all this is like big context stuff 1053 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: that you have to go to an on, to an 1054 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 2: individual player and try to figure it all out with them. 1055 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 2: It's not just looking at one single thing at all. 1056 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: Kind of matters in context. 1057 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: May we got to get out of here. Any final 1058 00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: questions for George? 1059 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 4: Wrap up? 1060 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: No, this has been great, George, thanks for Thanks for 1061 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: Avada and and like I said, we we always say 1062 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: we want to have more guests, and then it's always 1063 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: a great time when we do. And I don't know 1064 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: why we don't do it more so, appreciate you talking 1065 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: about all your Dynasty rankings and the second half strategy. 1066 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: I got any party thoughts before we get out of here, Not. 1067 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 2: Really, I will say that everyone should check out my 1068 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 2: Dynasty rankings. Over a rotal world, I definitely would want 1069 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 2: to come back arm with you guys in the offseason 1070 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: kind of reset things because the prospect landscape is going 1071 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: to change a lot in the next couple of weeks. 1072 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 2: Like there's a bunch of names I'm kind of watching 1073 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 2: in the second half, like where is like Edward Florentino 1074 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 2: going to finish Esteban Mahia for the Orioles throws like 1075 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and three and he's got my collar stuff, 1076 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 2: Like that's the guy where I was like, Okay, how 1077 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: high can I push him in my rankings and still 1078 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 2: not look crazy? 1079 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 4: So I have one. 1080 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 3: I do have one actual final question. We can get 1081 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 3: out of here when it's spend a lot of time 1082 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 3: on this. But you did remind me of you, did 1083 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 3: you think when when looking at like dynasty rankings and 1084 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 3: look at looking at this like this recent draft class, 1085 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 3: did you think of it as kind of like a 1086 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,479 Speaker 3: down year for prospects or was twenty twenty four really 1087 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: just like that good of a draft class. 1088 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 2: Well, Like twenty twenty four had a bunch of like 1089 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: really polished college hitters like Nick Kurtz came out and 1090 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 2: was like immediately the best college hitter we'd seen in 1091 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 2: like forever, just the ability to hit for power, control 1092 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 2: the strike zone. I could go on and on, like 1093 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan, but yeah, I think this was 1094 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 2: a weird year because you had a lot of really 1095 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: good prep shortstops and maybe the best picture in the 1096 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 2: class is like Seth Fernandez, who's a prep arm writing, 1097 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 2: so maybe one of the best prep writings we've had 1098 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 2: in a long time. So it was a weird kind 1099 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 2: of year as the way I look at it, and 1100 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: I think next year's class is really interesting. 1101 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's taken the top of the draft this year, 1102 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 3: like no one really knew who was going to go 1103 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,439 Speaker 3: first overall, and then the first overall pick I turned 1104 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 3: into a surprise, and everyone's like, this is not what 1105 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 3: we projected to happen. 1106 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 2: This is an interesting So there's a bunch there's a 1107 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 2: bunch of reasons, like Eli Willis went first, but you 1108 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 2: look at the economics of the decision. And then also 1109 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: he was like seventeen, So if you're forecasting a guy 1110 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 2: at that age with his present skills and what he 1111 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 2: could grow into, like nobody's sitting here saying he's Ken 1112 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: Griffy junior, like he's gonna become like a Hall of 1113 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 2: Fame caliber player. But we have seen a lot of 1114 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: high school, you know, prep shortstops make that leap and 1115 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 2: become really impactful, potentially franchise cornerstones. So yeah, just this 1116 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 2: is the fun part of the year when you're just watching, 1117 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 2: like how good is like Joshu Obias gonna be like 1118 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: just Sinceton I see it, like you know, just what's 1119 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 2: gonna happen. These are the fun two months of the 1120 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: year for prospects to watch. 1121 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: George, this has been great. We'll get out of here 1122 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,760 Speaker 1: on the high note if you bring up spun Mihia, 1123 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: because I'm an Orioles fan and I'm just very excited 1124 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 1: for so that is a great note to wrap things up. Five, 1125 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: we will definitely have you back on. I would love 1126 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: to get you ont of the offseason and kind of 1127 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: really dive into some of the more Dynasty stuff and 1128 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: Mayor and I can take advance and you know, hopefully 1129 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: do better in our in our Dynasty league that we're 1130 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: both in with with the knowledge. So thank you so much. Everybody. 1131 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: Definitely please do go to rote a World check it out, 1132 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, all of Georgia stuff, really the updates and everything. 1133 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, the the top five hundred Dynasty rankings update 1134 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: was a beast. I was messaging with him a little 1135 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: on the day that he was putting that together and 1136 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: you could tell it's silly that you put a lot 1137 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,439 Speaker 1: of work into an effort and it shows, so it's great. 1138 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you again for coming on for Mayor 1139 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: and for George. Everybody go check out his stuff at 1140 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: George Bissel on Twitter. I'm Ryan Warm. We'll see you 1141 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy 1142 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: Baseball podcast. If you love the show, the best freeway 1143 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: to support us is by leaving a positive review on 1144 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or Spotify. 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