Speaker 1: The guys from paying.
Speaker 2: They've kind of showed me how much the equipment matters.
Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot I
Speaker 2: kind of want.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about
Speaker 3: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Paining proven Grounds podcast. I'm Shane
Speaker 2: Baker and Marty Jertsen over there, and we got a
Speaker 2: great guest today. One Postigo joining us plays DP World Tour.
Speaker 2: Is it Edgar or do you say E d G
Speaker 2: A which.
Speaker 1: Both of them, both of them, but I'd say ed Guys,
Speaker 1: he's here.
Speaker 2: How long you've been playing professional golf? I only been
Speaker 2: battling it out there.
Speaker 1: I've been playing golf for my entire life, but professionally
Speaker 1: just three years now, and it's been fun journey.
Speaker 2: How's it going? How how different is pro golf from
Speaker 2: year one to now year three?
Speaker 1: It's quite similar. I mean I enjoyed the game the
Speaker 1: same way I did when I was an amateur. I
Speaker 1: really love traveling, I really love do what I do,
Speaker 1: and so I haven't seen a lot of differences. Just
Speaker 1: at my bank account, sometimes you just go up and
Speaker 1: down quid the creek well, it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3: At least you got part you know sometimes you So.
Speaker 2: You were born without much of your right leg. You
Speaker 2: started playing golf at the age of twelve. I saw
Speaker 2: that when you were fourteen you were a thirty handicap. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you got down to a four handicap in a
Speaker 2: couple of years.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did the bug bite right away? Were you obsessed with
Speaker 2: golf right when? You kind of film the game?
Speaker 1: Like, I came really from a really sportive family. I
Speaker 1: think when I was wronging with my disability, my parents
Speaker 1: starting me to to sport pretty quick. I was a
Speaker 1: good swimmer, was a good skier. I was pretty good
Speaker 1: sailor at that time. But my granddad just retired from
Speaker 1: work and he started playing golf, and so I was
Speaker 1: the only grandson that want to play with him. So
Speaker 1: that's why why I got engaged with the game, and
Speaker 1: I really loved it. I think the opportunities that the
Speaker 1: game of gold gives you as a disabled are much
Speaker 1: bigger than any other sport. Because when I was sailing,
Speaker 1: I have different boat. When I was a swimmer, I
Speaker 1: couldn't make the same times at the other died. But
Speaker 1: now as a golfer. I play with the same equipment
Speaker 1: and the same golf club, the same golf ball, the
Speaker 1: same golf course, and I can beat anyone. So I
Speaker 1: think that's why the game already I got passionate about it.
Speaker 3: Well, growing up in Spain, who are some of your
Speaker 3: the golfers that influenced you or that you kind of
Speaker 3: looked looked up to in your childhood and early on
Speaker 3: your golf.
Speaker 1: Care We're We're a pretty small country. Golf is not
Speaker 1: very big sports, just soccer around there or tennis, but
Speaker 1: we have pretty good golfers in Obviously, say bay status
Speaker 1: has been the main experiension around them. We're from the
Speaker 1: same town, so it's been great to have been close
Speaker 1: to him and his family. And Oli is also a
Speaker 1: big name marital and then obviously rum many others that
Speaker 1: came through and that make the game much bigger in
Speaker 1: our country.
Speaker 2: We hear so much about Savvy as this inspiration for
Speaker 2: Spanish golfers and for European golfers. I mean, being from
Speaker 2: his hometown, is it everywhere? I mean the people know
Speaker 2: of him across the board. Is the kind of a
Speaker 2: legend of Sevy in your hometown A big part of
Speaker 2: your town now.
Speaker 1: It is it is Savy obviously is a big name
Speaker 1: over there in might. Like forty fifty years ago, when
Speaker 1: these men started playing majors and doing these kind of things,
Speaker 1: golf was just a very small sport in the country,
Speaker 1: just for the richest people. He was a cuddy, humble
Speaker 1: guy from how the beginning farmer family. And so the
Speaker 1: story he has, the way he did it, the way
Speaker 1: he show us the younger that we were coming through,
Speaker 1: how it's been done, it's really passionately doesn't make us
Speaker 1: a bit more focused on our targets. And I think
Speaker 1: he's a really big part of any European golfer, not
Speaker 1: the Spandy, but European golfer Marty.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting. You know, as Americans, we don't run
Speaker 2: into this this that often, but you think about somebody
Speaker 2: like Seve takes up the game, becomes obviously a great player,
Speaker 2: starts to play well in major, starts to win major championships,
Speaker 2: and then fifteen twenty thirty years later you see this
Speaker 2: boom in golf from the area he's from or the
Speaker 2: country he's in. You think about somebody like Victor Hoven, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: in Victor Hovelin and coming from a country that hasn't
Speaker 2: had a whole bunch of great golfers from that area
Speaker 2: over the years. You think about what Victor Hoblin's success
Speaker 2: could do to where he is from in fifteen or
Speaker 2: twenty years, as young players see them pop up. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, the dream Team in the NBA in ninety two,
Speaker 2: and how many great basketball players have now come from Europe.
Speaker 2: I mean it is crazy to see that how one
Speaker 2: person can have such an impact on an area.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Spain is there's so much all
Speaker 3: the players that come from Spain, the Spaniards, they have
Speaker 3: this passion about them and at least from the outside
Speaker 3: looking in, That's what I think we've seen with you, Juan,
Speaker 3: And it's been fun for us at paying to get
Speaker 3: to know you more and help support you with equipment
Speaker 3: because you kind of bring that. You kind of bring
Speaker 3: that to the game into the sport. Tell us about
Speaker 3: the last tell us a little about about what you
Speaker 3: think you were, the strengths of your game are, and
Speaker 3: what your priorities are from a playing standpoint, competitive standpoint.
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty strong at every part of the game.
Speaker 1: But my coach doesn't say the same.
Speaker 3: Coach. Who is your coach right now?
Speaker 1: My coach is a big name over there. It's Sane.
Speaker 1: He's from the same era that us. He's now sixty five.
Speaker 1: He started cutting at the same time that he did,
Speaker 1: so they were pretty close friends. So that's my kind
Speaker 1: of coach, old school coach. We don't work too much
Speaker 1: with technologiest. We don't like truck Man. I use it
Speaker 1: at some points. I think it's necessary to know some
Speaker 1: data sometimes, but we are not based on that for
Speaker 1: the day work. But I think we work out on
Speaker 1: the short game.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: It's really important because obviously with my disability, some times
Speaker 1: I miss my balance on some longer show, so I
Speaker 1: may probably miss two more greens that an average go
Speaker 1: pro for perhaps, so I need to get up and
Speaker 1: noun more. Usually, my driver is a big strength. Like
Speaker 1: when I changed to being seven years ago. Eight years ago,
Speaker 1: it was a game changer to have bing drivers on
Speaker 1: the back because they really stable and those miss hit
Speaker 1: I may have because of my balance, they keep the
Speaker 1: ball in the fare away. I'm not that short, so
Speaker 1: I think that was a big change for me. And
Speaker 1: then from a bus striking perspective, I need to know
Speaker 1: very well how the body is sitting. It's really important
Speaker 1: not to be really wet areas or windy anything that
Speaker 1: can move me. It makes it tougher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so short game and in terms of your club
Speaker 3: head speed, we're talking a little bit. I've tried to
Speaker 3: swing on one leg and Shane, I don't know what
Speaker 3: I swing My drivers probably around eighty miles.
Speaker 2: I mean the same. I mean, it's mean what you're
Speaker 2: you're in that you're up in the uppward hundred, right,
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean very very impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm around one o five. My goal is to
Speaker 1: get to one ten.
Speaker 2: What are you doing to get to one ten? Are
Speaker 2: you doing? Like speed training? How do you you working
Speaker 2: out in the gym? Like how are you trying to
Speaker 2: get to one ten?
Speaker 1: I'm doing everything I can. I mean, I'm working hard
Speaker 1: on my strength, on my mobility, I'm working on everything.
Speaker 1: But I think I'm reaching some point that is going
Speaker 1: is getting tough to go up. There's a big player.
Speaker 1: A few years ago we were at the Open Champion
Speaker 1: to Miss Andrews and I was hitting balls in the
Speaker 1: range and Bryson the shamble came in and he can
Speaker 1: of take you a video, of course, but you can
Speaker 1: take me a video. But after that, I asked him, Bryson,
Speaker 1: what can I do to get some more some more mild,
Speaker 1: and he just said no, it's very simple, very simple.
Speaker 1: You have to hit one hundred drives every day as
Speaker 1: high as you can, and your ball pit will increase
Speaker 1: pretty fast. And I say, Bryson, if I hate one
Speaker 1: hundred drives from Monday, I won't be able to get
Speaker 1: out from bed until Thursday. So quite yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: But it was a fun conversation.
Speaker 2: You initially tried to play with a prosthetic, right, and
Speaker 2: then it just didn't make sense for you, So that's
Speaker 2: kind of the reason you switched to just swinging on
Speaker 2: one leg.
Speaker 1: Well, basically, I play with my prosthetic my first five
Speaker 1: years playing the game. But at the age of sixteen seventeen,
Speaker 1: I had an operation on my stamp, so something went
Speaker 1: pretty wrong. So everything that touched my stamp I have
Speaker 1: like a nerve pain. So anything that touched this. Obviously
Speaker 1: I can put my weight on a prosthetic kills me.
Speaker 1: So that's why I had to decide or stop playing
Speaker 1: the game or just keep with one leg. Was quite tough.
Speaker 1: At the moment because I was like a two handicapper,
Speaker 1: or I mean I was a good player at that point.
Speaker 1: So starting playing from the beginning again, your mind knowing
Speaker 1: how well you could play, but your body couldn't do
Speaker 1: that movement was my talenting at that point.
Speaker 3: Well let's go, let's talk about what's in your bag
Speaker 3: a little bit. So you got uh ten k driver, Yeah,
Speaker 3: talked a lot about the forgiveness helping you.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Uh, what's the rest of your bag? Breakdown? Look like
Speaker 3: into your your metal woods and then into your long irons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I play ten k. Just a few days ago,
Speaker 1: I thought the G four thirte was max was difficult
Speaker 1: to improve, but these guys did it again.
Speaker 3: Physics wins.
Speaker 1: I just put it straight in the bag after hitting
Speaker 1: three four shots here and then I've got five and
Speaker 1: three boot The max is Uh. I wought my cheft
Speaker 1: a little bit shorter than those from a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I think Mike Lee, yeah seven years ago told me
Speaker 1: to used to show those boots a little bit, and
Speaker 1: I have much better impact than I feel the club
Speaker 1: had much more table through impact. And then last year
Speaker 1: I make a main sweet in the factory in Greensboro.
Speaker 1: I used to play it two thirty four iron, but
Speaker 1: it was some times difficult to get the carry distance
Speaker 1: at some awkward spots, so we decided to build up
Speaker 1: a hybrid. I was anti hybrid player, I mean, I
Speaker 1: didn't like hybrids all. I thought it was going to
Speaker 1: go left and those.
Speaker 3: Way or that before right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But the fields over there I just fitted
Speaker 1: pretty well. I mean, and the ball is just pretty
Speaker 1: good ball flight, and I find that with my three
Speaker 1: quarter swing, I can make the distance I was making
Speaker 1: with my full fire and before it was pretty good change.
Speaker 1: And from down there, I've got five fire into putting
Speaker 1: wet to the I two thirties. I've been playing the
Speaker 1: icy for a long time and this is my second
Speaker 1: set of five two thirties. So it's pretty good, very
Speaker 1: stable iron, very accurate with the distances, which I think
Speaker 1: it's key on the on the high level, at least
Speaker 1: I know exactly what the boy's going to do. And
Speaker 1: on the heel impacts, it's amazingly it doesn't lose any distance,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe two three yards, which is great because
Speaker 1: I hit off the hill often, so I know my
Speaker 1: boy's going to be in the green. Just that's the bin.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty good. And then I changed a few
Speaker 1: days ago from the glide Pro. I played Glipro for
Speaker 1: a while, which I love them. Yeah, fifty four fifty eight,
Speaker 1: I changed the S one fifty nine and uh, pretty
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I noticed in your wedges you're using the h grind, right,
Speaker 3: So what have you noticed with that? What do you
Speaker 3: like in your short game technique? What are some of
Speaker 3: the characteristics of how you use your fifty four and
Speaker 3: fifty eight or your wedges around the green?
Speaker 1: Yeah, look with it. With the glide Pro, I found
Speaker 1: out that sometimes I like using my my clap place
Speaker 1: they would open all the time. Yeah, So I felt
Speaker 1: that sometimes with the old wags is the bound the
Speaker 1: bounds hit the ground before.
Speaker 3: Too early, too early.
Speaker 1: So I went here and lit to my we've God,
Speaker 1: what do you need the eighth grind? Okay, give it
Speaker 1: to me. And it's like a little bit it's just
Speaker 1: not the bouncy, just the grind, a little bit less bounty,
Speaker 1: and I can feel like my face open on tide
Speaker 1: lights and I know it's going to go through the
Speaker 1: ground perfectly. And so it's like a little getting changered
Speaker 1: to be fair, I mean I tested three days ago,
Speaker 1: as I said to you, with your feeders, and it
Speaker 1: was great to see how the ball was coming low
Speaker 1: and spinny without interacting with the ground.
Speaker 3: So it was beautiful, beautiful, And you use that in
Speaker 3: the fifty four and the fifty eight, so that H
Speaker 3: one stands for half moon. Yeah, right, so you get
Speaker 3: that little half moon crescent shape.
Speaker 1: So when you open the face, yeah, it's more fatterned.
Speaker 3: That the leadage stays lower to the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's pretty pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: One, What is it like being an inspiration for people?
Speaker 2: I know you travel around the world and you know
Speaker 2: you try to raise awareness for disabled golfers. What is
Speaker 2: it like when people reach out to you on social
Speaker 2: media or people ask you how do you play golf
Speaker 2: or how did you get into golf? What is it
Speaker 2: like being a role model if you will, to so
Speaker 2: many people out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't like to say a role model
Speaker 1: because my mother wouldn't be agreed with that. No, but
Speaker 1: it is amazing. I mean to see what can you
Speaker 1: generate just playing the game you love? It is something
Speaker 1: great because for me I was more like this, It's
Speaker 1: something I've been doing all my life. I've just my
Speaker 1: crutches before that, my wett is, so I mean it's
Speaker 1: something that I live with it and I don't know
Speaker 1: what's putting to shoo. So I mean it's something that
Speaker 1: I don't understand. But I see on people what you
Speaker 1: create on them that feeling that I also can do it,
Speaker 1: and that's great to see I received. I was talking
Speaker 1: with Christiane a few moments ago on how many message
Speaker 1: you received every week on social media on my son
Speaker 1: You're just lost one leg, du country, what a golfer?
Speaker 1: You think he will be able to keep going? Of
Speaker 1: course he will be able to keep going. Just go
Speaker 1: to the range, go to your head pro and start
Speaker 1: building it and start doing it. And I think the
Speaker 1: game of golf is the best platform to do it.
Speaker 1: And I think with with brands like being that really
Speaker 1: are focus on make this game adaptive to anyone, I mean,
Speaker 1: just support too many other players that yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've got golfers without arms, I mean, and we've got
Speaker 1: incredible engineers around here that are able to be a
Speaker 1: set of plays for them. I mean, I think I'm
Speaker 1: on the on the perfect spot to show because what
Speaker 1: we are doing and we this partnership is is going
Speaker 1: great because I think we will show many more people
Speaker 1: what the game of goal and what equipment is going
Speaker 1: to do in their lives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shane, we had doctor Paul wood On who kind
Speaker 3: of helped kick off a bunch of our engineering work
Speaker 3: we've done. Want talked about, you know, some of our
Speaker 3: paddle attachments we have for for golfers playing without arms.
Speaker 3: It's pretty incredible and very fun to watch, very fun
Speaker 3: to play play golf with you guys. I'm jealous of
Speaker 3: your swing personally. For those of you that haven't seen it,
Speaker 3: go go go google on and check out how pure
Speaker 3: is golf swing is.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned Savvy is such an inspiration. Sevie's son
Speaker 2: is your agent. How did that relationship come about?
Speaker 1: Oh, this is a little bit of a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: I know Haabier and Carmen and Miguel the family for
Speaker 1: a long time. We're pretty good friends. We are almost
Speaker 1: the same age. He's a bit older than me, but
Speaker 1: we're a good friend. We've played all of golf together,
Speaker 1: and Habier was playing professional golf. He decided not to
Speaker 1: play anymore two three years ago, and so we started
Speaker 1: working together. He called me, I want I was playing
Speaker 1: in Dubai the Wife and Ali two years ago, and
Speaker 1: he told me that he was interested in working with me,
Speaker 1: and I said, Lavier, of course, I'd love to work
Speaker 1: with you. So I went back home and he called
Speaker 1: me to go to his house, his dad house, big
Speaker 1: house on top of the town and beautiful and for
Speaker 1: the golf course. And when we went to the to
Speaker 1: the hall and I was signing a dealer with Kavier
Speaker 1: on top of a of a table with a glass table,
Speaker 1: and under there it was all them how do you
Speaker 1: call them? Those pages, the baties, the Asta baties, Brittish
Speaker 1: Open batties, the PA Champion by the US Open battiest,
Speaker 1: goosebumps on goose, And I was like, what I'm doing here?
Speaker 1: I think it was a crazy moment in my career.
Speaker 1: And obvisually working with him, it's pretty good. He's Spanish,
Speaker 1: I'm Spanish. We got on well together. He's really interested,
Speaker 1: really in my career and he's a golf lover. So
Speaker 1: I think I'm in pretty good hands.
Speaker 2: What's your schedule like, what's what's a year like for you?
Speaker 2: How many events are you playing? How often are you
Speaker 2: traveling comes stateside much? And playing things over here? What
Speaker 2: does your ear look like?
Speaker 1: I traveled around let's year, I traveled twenty five weeks.
Speaker 1: I played probably sixteen tournaments last year, and I had
Speaker 1: ear nine weeks for sponsors or speeches or different kinds
Speaker 1: of things, So pretty traveled much. My main schedule is
Speaker 1: based on DP World Tour. We played there nine a year,
Speaker 1: so that's pretty busy. And then I played the Major
Speaker 1: with the JUS Open here in the US, British Open
Speaker 1: in the UK, and also Open as well in Australia,
Speaker 1: and then I tried to play professional elements in Spain
Speaker 1: on the app Store as well on the Challenge Tour.
Speaker 1: Who is quite a busy schedule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're twenty thirty events? Is that fair
Speaker 2: to say? I mean, is that? Are you close to
Speaker 2: twenty five at this point?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah this year, I hope. I mean I shouldn't
Speaker 1: play that much. My doctors don't like me to do
Speaker 1: that often. But it's just you can't say no, right,
Speaker 1: why don't you you want to come to Phoenix? Oh,
Speaker 1: we'll do it. Why not? I mean we want to
Speaker 1: come to Japan? All right, We'll go to Japan, we'll
Speaker 1: make it. And then you end the year you look
Speaker 1: back and say, oh, I took one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: plains this year. It's just pretty busy.
Speaker 2: I got everywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't remember everywhere.
Speaker 3: One. Pia Nielsen and Lynn Marriott have been great. They're
Speaker 3: great friends of paying Ping Ambassadords. I personally read their
Speaker 3: books when I was growing up. Vision fifty four very
Speaker 3: inspirational to me. Tell us a little bit about how
Speaker 3: they've inspired you in their work.
Speaker 1: I think it's easy to know what they have done
Speaker 1: for the game. I read that book as well. I've
Speaker 1: got conversations with them, and I think the vision they've
Speaker 1: got they have to make this game simpler than what
Speaker 1: it is, is really what the key on their book.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can make only one everything a whole,
Speaker 1: you can bury everything a whole. Why not. We're more
Speaker 1: focused on our missus than our targets. And that's I'm
Speaker 1: a professional golfer and it still happened to me sometimes.
Speaker 1: So I really think the vision they've got it's great
Speaker 1: for everyone, for amateurs, but for professional is what makes
Speaker 1: us for a living, So it's pretty important.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, one tell us a little bit about
Speaker 3: what you're especially maybe when you're traveling you know, and
Speaker 3: playing tournaments. What does your practice routine look like. What
Speaker 3: percentage of your time do you work on driving, full swinging, chipping, putting,
Speaker 3: and how do you kind of organize that?
Speaker 1: So when I'm home, I try to practice every day
Speaker 1: from Monday to Friday. I try to get the weekends off,
Speaker 1: but they're never all because I play nine hole with
Speaker 1: friends or just you. Yeah I'm a geek. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I wake up seven, go to the game, make
Speaker 1: some warm ups. It's really important for me to warm
Speaker 1: up before going off to the range because my body
Speaker 1: is quite stiff in the mornings. If I need to
Speaker 1: go to the gym to lose up a little bit,
Speaker 1: it's just half an a forty minutes warm up. I
Speaker 1: go to the range. I usually hit one hour balls,
Speaker 1: one hour and a half short game practice, and then
Speaker 1: forty five minutes putting. And then I play nine holes
Speaker 1: with a bag on my shoulders, not the tour back
Speaker 1: just motorbag, hoop bag, grazy tour bag. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: it's too hard. And so after that, I get home
Speaker 1: by two PM. I got lunch at that time, which
Speaker 1: is normal time, and spent here's today. But that's a
Speaker 1: Spanish time to have food.
Speaker 2: I'm jealous of Spanish time.
Speaker 1: And then I have a little siesta, a little nap,
Speaker 1: which is if you're a good Spanish, you have to
Speaker 1: do it. It's just a master case. It's just you
Speaker 1: have to do it. And after that real question, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to question how long is the nap?
Speaker 2: I mean we've been having these nap conversations this week
Speaker 2: amongst the ping crew. Yeah, what's what's the time? Where
Speaker 2: you know, five minutes or you an hour?
Speaker 1: Experts says that twenty minutes nap is the best. I
Speaker 1: think twenty minutes snapped. It doesn't it's too short, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: like forty five minutes, forty five? Yeah, it can get
Speaker 1: to an hour and fifteen, but shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Okay did you get two hours? That's just yeah?
Speaker 3: No one do you do you set an alarm? Or
Speaker 3: is it you just wake up after forty five minutes? No?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, Isabell my girlfriend? She'll wake me up.
Speaker 4: Okay, she's so long, Yeah, she's so it's launch then
Speaker 4: that yeah, And then and then I go to the
Speaker 4: gym one hour and twenty minutes probably I make a
Speaker 4: strength Monday Wednesday, on Friday and Tuesday and Thursday with
Speaker 4: cardios on bike.
Speaker 1: So that's my practice routine basically.
Speaker 2: One with your left leg. Yeah, how long can you
Speaker 2: stand on it? Balance on it without the use of crutches?
Speaker 2: Can you do this for multiple minutes on it forever?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can for hours?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then when you're reading Potts, are you crouching down?
Speaker 2: Are you bending over? How do you handle reading Potts?
Speaker 1: I used to move much more than what I'm doing now. Visually,
Speaker 1: I have to take care. I want to play golf forever,
Speaker 1: so I need to be really careful about my body.
Speaker 1: So my knee is some pretty good shape, but the
Speaker 1: less I move it, they basically going to be in
Speaker 1: the futer. So I've got a great caddy which is
Speaker 1: doing all that reads on the line. We know it
Speaker 1: to the for a long time, so I really trust
Speaker 1: on on the lines. He's seen from from that view,
Speaker 1: so he's doing that that job.
Speaker 3: Have you been with your caddy for a while now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know it tother for fifteen years now and
Speaker 1: he's been on the back for almost three right now. Excellent,
Speaker 1: it's pretty.
Speaker 3: You're developing a good I think Shane. That's one thing
Speaker 3: we you know, we talk about golf being a team sport.
Speaker 3: I think this is a great example of having that
Speaker 3: great relation.
Speaker 2: I mean the trust. I mean, I mean trusting the
Speaker 2: read to the point where you know his eyes are
Speaker 2: basically your eyes. Yeah, that's a that's a hard thing
Speaker 2: to do as a golfer.
Speaker 1: Right exactly. And I need and I need much more
Speaker 1: sometimes than I carry. I need an assistant. Yeah, some
Speaker 1: traveling logistics. I cannot carry my back. I carry myself
Speaker 1: and I can't hit it to sixty, but I can
Speaker 1: carry my back. So it's pretty awkward. But he's doing
Speaker 1: we're traveling from the same place. He's coming with me.
Speaker 1: He's had been with all that logistics, so it's pretty
Speaker 1: helpful to have him in the bag. And he's doing
Speaker 1: great in the course and obviously of the course, which
Speaker 1: is so work that sometimes wouldn't see that they do.
Speaker 2: One. How did the relationship start with paying? How did
Speaker 2: this come about? Oh?
Speaker 1: This is uh. One of the best stories that happened
Speaker 1: in my life is just being the perfect spot at
Speaker 1: the perfect time. So I was playing an event in
Speaker 1: edguy event in Portugal maybe if I don't know the days,
Speaker 1: but maybe seven eight years ago, and at that time
Speaker 1: I was sponsored by another brand and so uh there
Speaker 1: was a pink tent on the range and a man,
Speaker 1: a feater, came to me. I didn't know who he was.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a simple feater. So he came
Speaker 1: to me, would you like to test? It was the
Speaker 1: eye the blue irons? The eye blue, Yeah, the I
Speaker 1: E one iron? Want? Okay, I want so those irons,
Speaker 1: So I hit I will test them. I hit the
Speaker 1: first shot, and the feater Mike Lee said to me, well,
Speaker 1: what do you think on that one? I said one
Speaker 1: forty eight eight? So I hit the second ball. I said,
Speaker 1: I hit the third one. He like ten balls and
Speaker 1: I call all the artists of those shots. So Mike
Speaker 1: said me, would you like me to send you the
Speaker 1: details of your feeling today? I gave him my email.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on at that point.
Speaker 1: This guy was really kind with me, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know anything. So five days after that, I receive an
Speaker 1: email from Mike Leah, a beautiful email that I've got
Speaker 1: around there, which is one of the most beautiful mails
Speaker 1: I've ever saved in my life. Are saying that being
Speaker 1: wanted to support me and if did I say yes?
Speaker 1: I will say yes to be part of a family
Speaker 1: and with all that that meant. So I said yes,
Speaker 1: and I become part of one of the I've got
Speaker 1: a big family. In my home were six brothers, but
Speaker 1: this is even a big family worldwide, and everywhere you
Speaker 1: go you feel like you were with the same people,
Speaker 1: which is great. And so I have to say thanks
Speaker 1: to Mike. I still see him out in Europe and
Speaker 1: it's great too, what he did with me and the
Speaker 1: path he showed me to go.
Speaker 2: So you say you have six brothers. Yeah, with six
Speaker 2: brothers involved, I mean you said you come from an
Speaker 2: athletic family. I know I read your I think your
Speaker 2: granddad was a sailor. I mean a lot of these
Speaker 2: things involved. What is it like growing up with six brothers?
Speaker 2: I mean, I can only assume the household is extremely competitive.
Speaker 1: You need to be so fuss to get the food.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm assuming a lot of apps going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, now, it was. It was really fun. I
Speaker 1: mean I think now it's it's even better because now
Speaker 1: we are there's more than ones are twenty two. They're twins.
Speaker 1: So now we'll get on well, really well with each other.
Speaker 1: We'll live in different places and we travel a lot
Speaker 1: to see each other. We have really good relationship between us,
Speaker 1: and I think we said a lot of memories from
Speaker 1: those beginnings. But it was crazy because maybe at home
Speaker 1: every single afternoon after school, they were fifteen times around
Speaker 1: two of my friends, two of my sister friends. Two.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like you have killer guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was case all the time.
Speaker 3: One are you a golfer that that gets nervous with
Speaker 3: your on TV? First all big part to win a tournament?
Speaker 3: Do you and how do you handle those situations?
Speaker 1: If any golfer in the world answered this question saying
Speaker 1: that he's not getting nervous, he's a liar. Okay, he's
Speaker 1: a liar. I think we all get nervous. And nerves
Speaker 1: are good because when you are nervous, it means that
Speaker 1: what you're doing it really mattered for you, you really
Speaker 1: want to do it well. The problem with nerves is
Speaker 1: that if you reach a level of nerves that you
Speaker 1: cannot move your body the way you want. That's the
Speaker 1: problem you have to fix. But I've never had two situations.
Speaker 1: I really feel my mind and my body under control
Speaker 1: ninety the situations. So I've worked with psychologists just to
Speaker 1: try to focus in the present a little bit more
Speaker 1: because sometimes nerves come not to want to miss that shot.
Speaker 1: So your mind is in the future. What do you
Speaker 1: have to think to hit? That's all what you have
Speaker 1: to feel. So I work a lot in the past,
Speaker 1: so I think right now I'm really stable at that point.
Speaker 2: Marty, how do you handle him? Like, how have you
Speaker 2: handled in the past in terms of being nervous it up?
Speaker 2: You know, like we've talked about the sixteenth hole at Phoenix,
Speaker 2: so we're playing a championship. What's your process to handle nervous.
Speaker 3: I remember I asked Christian Panya this question before I
Speaker 3: played my first major, because I was starting to get like,
Speaker 3: oh man, this is I'm going to get very nervous.
Speaker 3: And he just said, I remember christiansen breathe just I
Speaker 3: was like he was in hindsight, he was right. So
Speaker 3: I do a lot with breathing, you know, try to
Speaker 3: do these diaphragmatic, like real relaxing breathing techniques. But I
Speaker 3: get very nervous on the first tea after I hit
Speaker 3: that first t shot, I'm like, it's like popping the balloon.
Speaker 3: I think relaxed it.
Speaker 1: Is important on the on the first t to have
Speaker 1: really a security shot. Yes, Like for me, I just
Speaker 1: did a flow same we've been talking about, like a
Speaker 1: big cut. I will never hit a driving down from
Speaker 1: the first tier like I always hear a driver till
Speaker 1: and he's a big head, difficult to visit.
Speaker 2: I always say that the worst is when you have
Speaker 2: to fairly with on the first It's like the worst thing,
Speaker 2: you know, I just want to hit drivers.
Speaker 1: I rather take the drive from the shaft and hit
Speaker 1: it god like that than hit it like a dre.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 2: You're taking us through kind of your routine on a
Speaker 2: day to day basis. I mean it's it's robust. What
Speaker 2: do you do outside of golf for fun? Do you
Speaker 2: follow sports or you what else do you do besides
Speaker 2: just being a golfer.
Speaker 1: I really like spending time with my family, to be fair.
Speaker 1: I mean, my grandma is quite old right now, so
Speaker 1: I like me in the afternoon with her. But I
Speaker 1: going to the cinema. I stay a lot of time
Speaker 1: with my brothers and sisters. Who's had a nephew, which
Speaker 1: is quite good, quite a good feeling from big family man.
Speaker 1: But a part of that I really like music, cinema.
Speaker 1: I don't really like other sports. I like form that one,
Speaker 1: probably because Alanso is agatting up there, So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: prettyxciting for the spines. And Carlos signs as well, which
Speaker 1: is a great golfer by the way, Carlos and that.
Speaker 1: I followed tennis whenever Alcaa or Raphi is around.
Speaker 2: Saw Alcoraz of the US Open last year, it was
Speaker 2: like a next level experience FASTI as in human form.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, you know, you see these pro
Speaker 2: golfers hit it in when you're not watching on TV,
Speaker 2: but you see it in person, and it's like it's
Speaker 2: like a religious experience. Watching Alcaz play tennis was a
Speaker 2: religious right, So crazy good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like I like following golf. I don't
Speaker 1: follow everything in the tournament, but I love watching the Masters,
Speaker 1: the British Open, US Open, the Cup, which last time
Speaker 1: I think we won. Uh some research, right, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm quite a calm man a part of my public life.
Speaker 2: Let's say, what are your goals kind of going forward
Speaker 2: in this sport? What are your golf goals as you
Speaker 2: look ahead, not just in twenty four but beyond.
Speaker 1: On an individual perspective, I like to win US Open.
Speaker 1: I think it's a big target on my schedule, also
Speaker 1: the British Open. I think it's something really important to
Speaker 1: go through and to take back to to Spain and
Speaker 1: from a collective point of view, I think it's important
Speaker 1: to get this game through more people. I think we
Speaker 1: need to have a bigger stage even that what we
Speaker 1: have right now, and I think we will get it
Speaker 1: people just knowing what they're watching. I think it's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing product to watch a small guy playing
Speaker 1: against me one arm and shooting underpart every single day.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's something crazy to see as
Speaker 1: at a golf fund. And I think we can really
Speaker 1: inspire so many people around the glove. I think in Europe,
Speaker 1: like sixty percent of the population has a disability, so
Speaker 1: that's a lot of people in Europe, so it might
Speaker 1: have many people could play golf at the same level
Speaker 1: as we are doing and make a living from that.
Speaker 1: So we're just kind of making a platform so many
Speaker 1: more players can come into the game. I think that's
Speaker 1: a really a good goal that I talked about with
Speaker 1: Brendan Lotter, which is War number two, ky Pop, which
Speaker 1: is now War number one. We just need to create
Speaker 1: this altogether to have more people into the game.
Speaker 3: One one, there's think about one more club in the
Speaker 3: bat in your bag that we didn't get to. Is
Speaker 3: your potter. Yeah, so answer D a little deeper face,
Speaker 3: tell us a little bit about your connection, how you
Speaker 3: got fit and what attracted you to that model.
Speaker 1: Well, uh, this is in my life. There's a good
Speaker 1: stories for around. So I was in the British Master
Speaker 1: this year. I've been playing the Oslo patter from a
Speaker 1: long time. I played the Oslo Bolt like from twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen something like that, and then I changed last two
Speaker 1: years ago to the Oslo PLD. What's the smaller head
Speaker 1: the black one? And so I went to the British
Speaker 1: Masters and the first day, oh man, I think I
Speaker 1: shoot forty two paths in that round. It's not up
Speaker 1: round with the potter, but my mind, what's going away?
Speaker 1: So I jump into the truck and I said, dumb mate,
Speaker 1: I need a patter and me go to the queue.
Speaker 1: Not the only one, not the only one. So one
Speaker 1: of the feathers of your features here in America was
Speaker 1: there in the UK that week. I don't remember the name,
Speaker 1: Sorry for that, but came with me to the pattern green.
Speaker 1: I think fill Kenyon was arounded as well, and we
Speaker 1: figure out that we need to change what was going
Speaker 1: on down there, so it changed rustically everything. I was
Speaker 1: playing thirty three inchies, we now played thirty four. I
Speaker 1: was playing Mallet, now I'm playing more blady Potter. I
Speaker 1: was playing a thick grip, now playing a regular grip.
Speaker 1: So we trying to change everything. And I was working
Speaker 1: pretty well with my twin because I'm really straightforward, so
Speaker 1: that kind of head shape. I think it's going great
Speaker 1: with that. I'm really happy with that. One a moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one when you come to the United States, what
Speaker 2: are you the most excited about? Is it some food
Speaker 2: option when you come state side? What do you look for?
Speaker 2: Or two of do you like a Chipotle?
Speaker 3: Guy?
Speaker 2: Like, what are you doing? You might not even know
Speaker 2: Chipotle is a restaurant. I'm just wondering, Yeah, something here.
Speaker 2: You come and you're like, I'm into this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm coming from Spain, so the food in
Speaker 1: Spain it's yes, a bit bigger level. Yes, Yes, I
Speaker 1: like coming to chisca factory or doing those kind of
Speaker 1: things once a year, which is great. I love that
Speaker 1: in pancakes and I like that. But you know, I
Speaker 1: love how you are passionately for the sport. I really
Speaker 1: like watching that, Like you really give a lot of
Speaker 1: value to two adletes. And I think to any kind
Speaker 1: of alt doesn't care if he's playing volleyball or playing
Speaker 1: all or playing football or whatever. But you love that,
Speaker 1: and you you give us a perspective much higher than
Speaker 1: what we have in Europe, which is is something that's
Speaker 1: really obviously. Hire a big car. I love driving big cars,
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to get the big Yeah, Like like
Speaker 1: my girlfriend couldn't jump into the car. He's five feet
Speaker 1: he's quite small, so I almost have to jump in
Speaker 1: the guy, just get the biggest one.
Speaker 2: It's very America.
Speaker 3: It's very different, Shane. You know you've lived over there.
Speaker 3: Going to Europe and renting a car on a golf trip,
Speaker 3: it's it's like tetris getting your bag.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean in Scotland last year, I had
Speaker 2: to take the rental back and I was like, this
Speaker 2: isn't gonna I can't do it. I'll just do it,
Speaker 2: but it's fine. I just this isn't gonna work for me.
Speaker 2: The Northern Scotland I was out but yeah, that's so
Speaker 2: funny about the svs. It's such a true thing. I
Speaker 2: want to really appreciate the time. I mean, a great story,
Speaker 2: love watching you swing, love watching you play, and uh
Speaker 2: and yeah, just appreciate you spending some time with us
Speaker 2: on the Pink proven Grounds podcast.
Speaker 1: Thank you for mine the first time here, I'm hopefully
Speaker 1: not the last.
Speaker 2: Absolutely well have you back on. Thank You is the
Speaker 2: Pink proven Grounds Podcast.