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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to I Choose Me. My guest Valerie Bertinelli has

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Speaker 1: embraced the idea of showing up perfectly imperfect in ways

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Speaker 1: that feel brave and deeply human. Our conversation about her

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Speaker 1: new memoir, Getting Naked, continues now with even more truth

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Speaker 1: and the courage to be seen as you are. Okay,

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Speaker 1: first things first, the subtitle of your book Getting Naked

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Speaker 1: is the quiet work of becoming perfectly imperfect.

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Speaker 2: Why Because I've tried my whole life to be perfect,

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Speaker 2: to be the perfect angel, to be the perfect actress,

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Speaker 2: to be the perfect worker bee, to do everything perfect,

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Speaker 2: and it's impossible. And if I wanted to get out

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Speaker 2: of that loop, that crazy cycle, I had to be

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Speaker 2: okay with it being imperfect because I was still doing

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Speaker 2: my best. And just because you're doing your best doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean it's going to be perfect. And it is a

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Speaker 2: quiet work, because.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.

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Speaker 2: You call it a quiet It is a very quiet

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Speaker 2: work because it's between your brain and your heart, and

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Speaker 2: your heart and your brain and your emotions and quietly

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Speaker 2: being curious about your emotions and letting your brain. Oh,

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Speaker 2: our brains are so magical. There's the neuroplasty is like

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Speaker 2: you can form and shape your brain into anything you want.

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Speaker 2: You can, And if you can tell yourself you're a

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Speaker 2: terrible human being, you can also tell yourself I'm really good.

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Speaker 2: I'm really good at this. Maybe that's not my gift,

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Speaker 2: but this is my gift, or maybe like they're not.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's great at everything. Find what you're great at. If

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Speaker 2: you're just you can. You can tell yourself anything and

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Speaker 2: you will believe it. So you want to believe that

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Speaker 2: it's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you're giving yourself the bad.

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Speaker 2: Because you deserve that too. Yeah, you don't deserve the

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Speaker 2: bad stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but for so many of us, probably

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Speaker 1: all of us, I would imagine, perfection has been fed

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Speaker 1: to us as the you know, goal, end goal, right

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Speaker 1: in so many ways?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: What do you say to yourself each day to help

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Speaker 1: you break that unrealistic cycle or expectation of yourself?

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Speaker 2: Lesson learned, Like if something didn't go the way I

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Speaker 2: wanted it to and I made a mistake, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: won't do that again, or maybe I will because I

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Speaker 2: need a harder lesson. But it's all a lesson, like

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Speaker 2: anything I I I think a big, huge, loud mistake

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Speaker 2: is a gift because from that we can self reflect

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Speaker 2: and figure out what it is about that big loud

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Speaker 2: mistake that we needed to go through so we could learn,

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Speaker 2: learn to be better, learn to be a little bit

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Speaker 2: more compassionate, a little bit more aware, just whatever it may,

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Speaker 2: whatever that lesson may be. The bigger the mistake, the bigger,

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Speaker 2: the more life changing the lesson, So appreciate it. It's

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Speaker 2: not perfect, it's imperfection, and through those imperfections you're going

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Speaker 2: to learn some great lessons.

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Speaker 1: How to love yourself imperfectly. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: You say we should celebrate our triggers, get curious about them,

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Speaker 1: tell us more.

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Speaker 2: Well, just sort of like what I was just saying,

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Speaker 2: like when a big mistake happens, or when somebody triggers you,

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Speaker 2: or or I wish there was a better word for it,

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Speaker 2: you know, just makes you feel something you don't want

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Speaker 2: to feel. Yeah. Yeah, pokes the bear pokes, the bear

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Speaker 2: presses the bruise that didn't you know, go away from

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Speaker 2: childhood or wherever it came from. It's an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: get curious about why, Like if that still hurts, what

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Speaker 2: else do I need to worry? Gone? Like if this,

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Speaker 2: like like when my vulnerability and my shame was used

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Speaker 2: haven't healed something that I need to heal so it

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Speaker 2: can't be used against me. So those triggers are gifts. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: use them to help yourself.

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Speaker 1: I was just I mean, I was thinking a lot

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Speaker 1: about this this past week, having been triggered and realizing

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Speaker 1: that what happens to me when I get triggered at

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Speaker 2: And where do you feel it in your body? Right?

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Speaker 1: And who I tend to take it out on? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Oh and because he's the safe place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but for how long? You know you think I

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Speaker 1: cannot continue to do that. That's not why he's with me, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's through that mistake, through those mistakes that trigger

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Speaker 2: But you have come stations about it later, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's what triggers are good for. Activate when someone activates me,

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Speaker 2: that's what it is. Yeah, Like if I get activated,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's worse I'm coming from. That shouldn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you ask yourself, why am I? Why

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Speaker 2: Right now? What's that weakness there? What's that? What's a

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Speaker 2: better word than weakness because that sounds a derogatory But.

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Speaker 1: I always get that touching. That's the nerse, that softness.

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Speaker 2: What's the bruise?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, Okay, let's talk about empathy. You write that

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Speaker 1: you felt like you lost track of empathy for a while.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell your story of being on the one

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Speaker 1: on one free way because I felt that one man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes my Italian comes out. I let a

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Speaker 2: or I'm just like triggered activated all of it? Is

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Speaker 2: it usually in the car? Yes? Always? I mean I

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Speaker 2: almost got triggered coming up here because something happened on

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Speaker 2: Then I thought, well, wait a minute, and then I

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Speaker 2: That little bossy me that was bossy to my brothers

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Speaker 1: But as you realize that you were having trouble being

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Speaker 2: It, because I was, so you know, there's a zipper

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Speaker 2: method when you're getting onto the freeway. Yes, one car,

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Speaker 2: one car car. It's the zipper method. And someone was

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Speaker 2: all of us wait, I'm We've been patient.

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Speaker 2: To screwing with the zipper methods. So anyway, then I decided,

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Speaker 2: something there. You don't know there's such. There's this word

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Speaker 2: called sounder that I adore, and it's about everyone that

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Speaker 2: you pass, no matter how briefly in your side. I

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Speaker 2: they have a full, well, beautiful complex life. And this

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Speaker 2: that right. So I need to just like sip back

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I'm to try. I live probably four

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You can't go anywhere in LA no matter what time,

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Speaker 1: I'm not friends with people no Petamonica. Now, like I've

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Speaker 2: People just need to know the freeway systems out here,

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Speaker 2: and it sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, uh you say that, you say that

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Speaker 1: you have to choose to be empathetic to practice it,

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Speaker 1: like learning the piano or something. How do you choose

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Speaker 2: Put yourself in their place, put yourself in their shoes always,

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Speaker 2: and what would be your reaction? What would you be doing.

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Speaker 2: I became so angry for a while because I was

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Speaker 2: I feel like that That's how I feel about my

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Speaker 1: Okay, he was scary and what you're working with? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right right? I think about a lot when I'm in traffic.

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Speaker 2: That's a great, great thing I do.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I wonder why they're in such a rush, right,

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Speaker 2: And I always feel noisy, and then I want to

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Speaker 1: I need a look. I need a good look. Okay,

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Speaker 1: speaking of practices, I love your meditations and.

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Speaker 2: The bad thank you. I wouldn't courage anyone to see

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Speaker 2: if they could get that on audio. And are you

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Speaker 2: you did? Yeah, and I cried multiple times reading it.

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Speaker 2: it might be helpful to listen to those meditations more

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Speaker 2: I just think listening to them, I was really careful

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, run out and get that audiobook.

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Speaker 2: People.

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Speaker 1: You wrote a beautiful poem thank you, which I'm going

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Speaker 1: to just read a little bit of if you don't mind.

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Speaker 1: But you guys are going to have to read the

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Speaker 1: rest of the book yourself in a warm bath. I

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Speaker 1: am with myself. I am present. I feel my body

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Speaker 1: tense before it relaxes. My thoughts slow, the racing abates.

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Speaker 1: I feel a different kind of weight on my chest comfort.

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Speaker 1: I am snug. I am able to close my eyes

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Speaker 2: Just it calms me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you practice meditation?

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Speaker 1: We think we have to sit on a mat in

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Speaker 2: Say, in your skin. Yeah, yeah, being present. It's bringing

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