WEBVTT - Salty Dogs Podcast with Codey McElroy 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.000 What do you call two guys that were there when 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.200 the chin, He's to the twenty, he's the twenty five 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.639 thirty to the party yearline history, fifty forty to the 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.840 thirty yards like Michael Rock. Michael Rock, Michael Rod, Stop Tapper, 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.840 hare you go in that sixty two yard for your 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:30.320 goal attempts. It is God, Good God, God box the Eagles. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:35.120 Who can forget again? I'm looking at the already Derek 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.680 Bocks dirty touchdown tamp a day, Derek Brooks, the lost 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.640 pariable player. You're the National Football League third as the 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.240 Daggers in Where are you Gonna Wear the Supper Bowl? 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.520 We call them the Salty Dogs. Hello everybody, and welcome 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.080 to another edition of the Salty Dogs Podcast. Very special 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.320 edition by the Salty Dogs. Play. Yeah, we're excited about 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.840 our guests this week. We are. Um, it's not one 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.320 of the biggest names on the team. Nope. He's played 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.760 one game and is an NFL career. He has Cody 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.319 McElroy the tight end. But he has a very interesting 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.959 story and I'm not even gonna try to recap it 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.360 now because I thought I would get it right. But 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:11.840 we just want him to tell us his story of 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.039 how we got here to this place now, and you 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.320 have to make us a Christmas promise. You can't fast 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.280 forward to with the time mark that I give you. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.240 When Cody starts, we're talking it up like you can, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.280 but then you have to rewind in the lease. Yes, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.680 because because we put your show. Yeah, we're putting a 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.720 lot of the way. I'm Scott Smith and I'm Jeff Ryan. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.279 I remembered it this tide at least before you did well, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.360 very good. I've been having identity issues. I just have issues. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.360 I agree with that. So we're for the first time 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.400 in five weeks, we don't get to talk about a win. No. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.280 I guess we got greedy there from we did and 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.600 it you know, it was comfortable, yeah for us. Um 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.240 So the Bucks lost to the Texans twenty to twenty 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.520 on a rare Saturday afternoon game. I like that. That 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.520 was I like to go in the game on Saturday. Yeah. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.440 And I think you'll see the NFL do uh to 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.040 Saturdays next year because because as of the Christmas schedule 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.800 the way Christmas will fall next year, and also because 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.120 the three games that we're playing on Saturday were lights out. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.960 You mean they were good games. They were good games, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.800 very well. They did real well. I got cross I 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.720 got friends I text with and and I several of 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.079 them were like, I really like this Saturday NFL. Of course, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.160 you know they don't because of college from yat year. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.480 But this is an op yeah, and it's a great 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.880 place to place it because usually there's not you know, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:28.560 would have been just Bowl games would have been a 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.720 little more entertaining for us. If the Bucks had won 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.359 that game and pulled it out. I would say, I'm 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.200 not going to say it would have been more entertaining. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.480 I would say it would make me feel better. But 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.799 I thought that was a very entertaining I think any 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.680 game that Jamis Winston is involved in has a lot 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.079 of big plays. If I wrote on the board right now, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.840 five turnovers, how bad did you get beat? Well even worse? 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.520 Three turnovers within the first like sixteen minutes, Three picks again, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.000 another one on the first drive of the game, which 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.720 he's not in six times now, and I hit the 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.000 button and I said, Okay, game time, it's gonna Yeah. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.840 I don't write I don't count games at kickoffs anymore. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.079 It's after that first pick six. But so after that, 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.320 then there's another one on the second drive, and there's 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.919 another one early in the second quarter, I believe, and 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.720 pretty soon you're down seventeen to nothing. And that's the 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.320 thing about both Jamis Winston and this team is that 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.600 we've seen that many times in the past. Word that 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.680 would have been it, don't even would have been it. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.920 Somehow by halftime, it's seventeen seventeen. When we talked to 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.120 coach at half, I could not believe it was seventeen. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.640 It is mind boggling in the sense. And you have 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:41.840 to take your hat off to the defense because they 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.280 fantastic game. Houston has a great offense. They only got 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.560 two twenty nine yards. Deshaun Watson was held in check 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:54.480 and Thandre Hopkins twenty three yards. Karl d that all 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.640 of that is gone by the wayside because of course 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:02.480 Pixell will Will Jamison is the big topic. But but 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.120 when you look at that's, you know, the Texans are 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.720 a really good team and you you truly neutralized them. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.440 They had the lowest point to our yards told the 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.800 year to twenty nine. And if you take away, well, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.440 you can't take away the takeaways because they're there, But 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.120 what was the seventeen points you say off of takeaways? 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.080 One of my math tells me what would have won 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.920 that game? Yeah, but the comeback in the final two 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.800 minutes of the secon of the first half involved things 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.920 like Cody McElroy, who're gonna talk to, catching his first 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.720 pass ever for thirty yards, Ishmael Hyman catching his second 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.680 pass ever for thirty one yards, Justin Watson scoring just 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.600 his second touchdown on another really great red zone play. 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.200 Jamis has made some outstanding red zone plays on the 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.680 move this year. Actually he's done that a lot throughout 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.560 his career. Uh. And then, uh, you know, plays like 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.760 that sprinkled all over the place. And you know, you 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.680 don't have any Mike Evans, you know what, any Chris Godwin. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.279 You don't have Scotty Miller. I know that's not as 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:53.760 big of a deal as Evans and Godwin, but he 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.920 was coming on and you're playing with a bunch of 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.800 guys have only been around here for a few weeks. Uh, 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.719 and Brashad Perry and now you know why you got him, dude, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.480 he's over. He's he said, like five eleven yards now 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:10.279 and not making easy catches. That's that sideline was. I 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.040 could believe he actually got in intollet and we couldn't 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:14.560 see it because it was on our side and you 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.200 got all the players in front of you. M But 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.480 if you had said when you signed for Shod to 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.960 be your number three receiver behind Evans and Godwin, and 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.159 he would Evans and Guy when would both make the 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.240 Pro Bowl and your third receiver would get over five 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.000 hundred yards, you say, Okay, that's exactly what I want 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.440 plus five touchdowns. I'll take that now. Obviously, the opportunity 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.800 has been there for him because Guy went in first 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.880 Evans and then Guy would have been out. But I mean, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.040 that's one of the reasons you need a good third receiver. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.560 You can't have enough. He wasn't producing in the first 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.040 half of the season because Jamis was basically just throwing 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.479 the ball to Mike and Chris, and why not it 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.320 was working? How can you not right? So? And if 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.120 you weren't, then you would probably be getting yelled at 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.360 for why aren't you finding those guys? So? And when 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.000 it's all when it's all said and done in the wash, 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.520 and we've talked about this before, where where people wanted 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:02.479 us to um cut bra shot before the deadline so 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.880 that you could get another compensatory pick, and we've mentioned 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.440 that it probably would end up being like a late 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.600 sixth round pick best of late fifth, which is like 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.320 a sixth. It was the right thing to do. Sometimes 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.039 you gotta know whin to hold them well. And it 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:15.800 just shows these guys know what they're doing. You know 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.480 that there was some criticism like why would they do that? 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.000 Well because they had to think about why did we 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.599 bring them in to begin with and reevaluate and not 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.719 to mention that the bucks were like two and six 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.640 and and I'm sure there wasn't and I don't blame 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.400 anything for this. I'm sure there wasn't a ton of 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:30.960 belief out there that was gonna get turned around to 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.520 the extent that has. And I and you know, I 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.680 always see where everybody goes where you you see, well, 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.400 you know he had four wins, but you know they 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.200 weren't against teams with winning records. You gotta play your 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.520 schedule well. True, and maybe the Rams early and we 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.159 almost we took Seattle overtime in Seattle, and uh, and 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.080 you play Jacksonville was bad, but Atlanta was playing good 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.720 when we went there, and they just destroyed Carolina and 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.760 New Orleans on the road too straight weeks. So it's 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.799 not all about the record that you and and it's proven. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.920 It's proven on any given Sunday because if you look 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:09.920 real quickly at the Arizona Cardinals beating Seattle in Seattle, Um, 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.120 Atlanta won at San fran a couple of weeks ago. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.680 There you go. So hard to win in the NFL. Yes, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.560 every week is a whole new Let me throw something 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.800 out here, Jeff, ready for it? All right? The Bucks 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.840 are seven and eight. Atlanta is coming in town. Pretty much. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.840 I think the line on this game is even it's 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.120 a it's a battle for second place. Actually, if I 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.160 don't know how much that that matters to you or anybody, 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.600 it does because it matters so where we're traveling. Well, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.880 that's why I'm getting it. So I'm getting it. Bruce 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.760 arians has said several times how much he and the 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.080 team still want to win this game. Uh, and he 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.360 said the phrase eight and it tastes a lot better 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:51.840 than no questionn or nine. No question. However, if you're 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:56.320 if you lose the game, being second or third from 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.240 the standpoint of what you get out of it doesn't 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.000 make any difference. I would rather be second and third, right, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.400 you will probably have you could have a movement of 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.560 three or four or five picks in the draft order 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.160 to the betterment. I'm saying if the Bucks lose, not 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.760 saying they want to lose the silver lining. No, I'm 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.360 gonna get to the question here in a second. And 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.760 then if you lose, you are going to play from 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.160 the West. You're gonna play the Rams here, and your 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.480 road trip will be to the Giants. Those are the 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.240 two games determined by the schedule, by the standings, the 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:34.920 restaurants already determined. Okay, if you win, either Seattle or 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.800 San fran are coming here, and you're going to either 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.679 Philly or Dallas, depending on what happens in their games 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.959 and who comes in first and second. On paper, if 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.240 you didn't care about winning and losing in this week 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.880 when you're limited for the postseason, the Bucks are probably 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:54.599 better off in the seven to nine situation. They're presumably 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.080 the Rams the way their seasons gone, although they could 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.760 easily bounce back, are not as difficult as Seattle or 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.320 San Fran and the Giants. And listen, you know, maybe 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.360 Daniel Jones becomes a superstar. But I think you'd rather 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.200 play the Giants than the Eagles, right or the Cowboys 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.880 who have disappointed this year but are very talented. You 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.840 make valid points, but so what do you want? You 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.240 want to want to I want eight eight, I want 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.760 to be second and I want And the reason why 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.200 I say that is I don't know what anybody's gonna 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:30.200 be like next year period, and so I and I 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.360 think for this coaching staff, I think it's a great 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.000 leap if they can put it at eight and eight 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.640 and six or two in the second half of the 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:39.520 season the first year being here, and I think it 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.600 would be I think it's just good period either. I'd 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.240 rather too because losing and and and three draft picks 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.480 up in front. Personally, if you're not in the top five, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.040 you can make a difference. But it's hard to predict 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.200 how it can make a difference because you you might 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.840 be sitting there at seventeen and and you're thinking that 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.360 guy is gonna get taken a fifteen we have to trade. Yeah, 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.640 And if draft picks were the ultimate ultimate, then you know, 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.560 a lot of Cleveland Browns would be really, really happy. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.960 Considering how many draft picks. They but they are a 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.360 very valuable asset, especially first and second rounders. Uh And 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.680 the Bucks have proven this year how important draft picks 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.880 are because their draft class has been very, very good. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.000 And yes, no question, so what you got? Okay? So, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.840 but I do want to be eight and eight, Yes, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.240 I want to. I want to end the season. I 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.040 want to say, wow, you know you're six out of eight. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.840 In the backside, I see the defense playing better, the 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.880 offense is putting up points. Yes, there's things that need 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.720 to be worked on, but a much better taste in 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:47.199 my mouth at that time. I'm there. Uh So, okay, 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.640 let's go tell Bruce. Okay, we already know that the 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.520 Bucks are trying to win. He wants to win. And 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.520 that's the thing about um, he's not happy, He's not 0:10:54.640 --> 0:11:00.439 he he feels well, he thinks. Yes, my impression of 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.560 my impression of how Bruce is. He feels that he 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.200 had opportunities to get this team to win three more 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.000 games and didn't get it. And there's really nothing he 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.480 can do about a very good kicker missing one yard, 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.760 which I don't think he's missed inside the forty other 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.400 than that one. So that's the Giants game, and then 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.160 he obviously doesn't believe it's his fault or the team's 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.040 fault that the rest blew the whistle too fast on 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.600 the Tennessee Interesting. Interesting, in the Tennessee game there was 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.040 there was not a quick whistle. Yeah, no, there was. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.720 It's the same thing we were we were robbed of 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.280 a no in our game. No. No, what I'm saying 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:39.160 is last week we weren't in Tennessee in that test. Yeah, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.280 there was, there was that issue where they didn't blow 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.920 the whistle and they let the play play out. Good 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.320 and John at the TV, where were you back? You know? Now, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.679 I will say, which did not like this fumble non 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.480 fumble call in the last game. That was the next 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.000 thing that's gonna bring up. And the problem there is 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.120 why there was a quick whistle there because he was 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:01.160 still forward, probably his legs were still churning. I was like, 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.400 come on, play it out and that boy did Bruce 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.880 react strongly to that. Oh and by the way, never 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.880 ever going to talk about it again. Okay, what past 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.559 interference instant replay done? You just you just you're done 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.440 at the topic. I'm done with it and I and 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.120 I hope they don't. I hope they throw it off 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.679 the books. Well, I do too, and we've said that 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.760 several times. Just get rid of that dumb done because 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.320 they can't. They can't get I saw it all week long, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.680 all week I can't get it right. You don't know 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.840 what the rule is. It's much I've said this before. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.160 It's much less infuriating as a fan of a team 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.839 to see up of a flag or a non flag 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.640 that they missed, then to see that it missed and 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.600 it's still not get corrected. And I will say this, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.079 you know you can't win because one guy one one 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.520 one the If you look at the fan base or 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.400 whoever you're rooting for, you go, oh, that's not pass interference. Yes, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.800 that's past interference. But deep down all fans know when 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.600 you get away with one and you don't get away 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.960 with Plus you were talking about all across the league 0:12:58.080 --> 0:12:59.240 and there was some of that where you were just 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.720 an objective of yeah, and I'm just like oh yeah, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.640 and then you just I don't care one way or 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.920 the other. It's not right. So I just hope that 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.240 goes away because I'm tired of it. Yeah, in addition 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:09.600 to the season, and I think it will make it 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.120 easier on the officiating too. So yeah, agreed, they're just 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.800 going back to the way it was. Uh. And again 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.960 it's the rule is just an overreaction to one big play, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.680 and that's something that it's a pretty big play. You know, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.920 that was pretty but it didn't stop that. No, that 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:30.040 still occurred. It didn't change history. So what did we get? Aggravation? Grief, 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:36.320 Let's get off the aggravation. He that's kind of topic. Um, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.680 getting off the aggravating part. Back to the that was 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:45.080 my festivals. Back to the good stuff. We're talking about. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.960 One to finish eight, Nate. We also want to see 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.120 this defense have one more really good outing and uh, 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.280 and just continue to make us believe that we've finally 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:54.679 turned the corner on that side of the ball. And 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.080 you're gonna have your hands full because Julio Jones is back, 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.720 I know, but DeAndre Hopkins came in. Read now you 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.679 prove that you can do it two weeks in a row. Actually, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.400 Atlanta had Julio Jones when we play them last time, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.600 but they didn't have Austin Hooper and they didn't have 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.240 Davonte Freeman. And they're both back, so they're gonna be 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.600 even tougher to defend. And that coaching staff is fighting 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.120 for their jobs right now, and the players are fighting 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.080 for their coaches. Yes, and so there's there's that, And 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.920 they could end up eight and eight. No, they can't. Sorry, 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:25.640 seven and nine, and I'm sorry. And if that happened, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.240 then we'd both be seven and nine. They'd win the 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.160 tiebreaker for the standings. Now it's terms of the draft 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.400 or that's completely different. That's based on strength and schedule. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:33.960 So you could we could be behind them in one 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.680 and ahead of them and the other. Um, but I 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.640 would lay it out like this, we don't know what 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.520 it's gonna happen with all those free agents up front, Shack, Barrett, 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.560 Jason Pierre, Paul, Karl Nassa and Dominicans who those four 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.680 primarily There's some others like Rakim Nunia's roaches, and but 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.760 those are probably the four that you could lose any 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.200 number of them, and I mean you and I'd probably 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.200 like that mall back, but it's probably not realistic, right, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.840 but you still have Vita Vea. You're probably gonna resign 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:06.640 at least one or two of those guys, maybe Shacks. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.840 Let's just say we resigned Shack because we say that 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:13.160 because both Bruce and Shack have been asked multiple times 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.080 in the last few weeks, and they both have made 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.720 it clear they want to be working together next year, 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.880 so I think there's motivation to get that done. So 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.200 I'm just gonna say the Bucks get shocked back one 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.840 way or another. You got via Via, even if you 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.600 don't have a Donecansoe, although I hope we do. You 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.640 got Shack Bear. That's a real good start up front, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.320 your two inside linebackers. Could we ask for a better 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.080 pairer than Devon White and Lavante David? And then your 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:37.920 secondary all of a sudden looks like you've found it, 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.280 you know. And Bruce was right, although you know, back 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.560 in the back in August we said the secondaries fixed, 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.440 and then the secondaries results were horrendous. It was easy 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.600 to pick on that line, but he meant, as I've 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:55.400 said before, we that they felt they'd fixed the talent issue, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.320 that they had the talent on and and it looks 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.160 now like they're right because it's secondary, especially those three 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.240 young corners are playing lights out right, and that'll be 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.200 great because those guys are locked in for a while, right, questions. 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.160 So if you've got a secondary that's playing very well 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.720 and it's getting more confident by the week, you got 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.560 you can't ask for better inside linebackers, and you can 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.000 make that defensive from work with those starters, maybe somebody 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.800 in the draft. Your defense on paper looks pretty good 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.760 to me next year, and that's and you're gonna have 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.480 to have a good defense. Well, you're still gonna have 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.800 Mike Evans, You're still gonna have Chris Godwin. Uh, and 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.440 we don't know what's gonna happen with James yet. And uh, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.640 we probably need to make some improvements in the running game, 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.680 whether that be I don't know whether it be new 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.680 backs or or scheme or offensive line, but it's not 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.680 working well enough. But this offense has been pretty good 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:51.160 year without the turnovers, and sometimes you are you know, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.120 they they were they were throwing offense. It seems to 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.160 be that seems to be what it is. You'd rather 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.600 have more balanced though. Um, And I think that I 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.960 think they're addressing. I think they're in address, of course. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.920 And and like some previous coaches have said here, you 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.200 can't go into every offseason and fix every problem at once. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:09.399 So there were a lot of things that need to 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.520 fix him. Some of that's been done and now you 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.360 move on to what hasn't been fixed. Yeah, and I 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:22.200 just want to say, um, Lavonte David just on. It's 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:26.240 mind boggling that he the people don't realize how good 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.800 he is. And it might be because you know, the 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.879 Buccaneers were not on national TV all the time and 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.200 so fans don't get to see it. But I think 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.960 fans on Saturday got a real treat to with fifty 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.760 four can do because it was pretty reminsed. He and 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.840 he makes people around us better and and UH coach 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:48.800 has mentioned and he hasn't said him by name, but 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.480 he's been talking about the defense. He goes, we have 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.679 a lot of young talent and then a lot of 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.680 our older talent is still young. And I think he 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.640 means they still like and I think he's a friend 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.240 to get Lavonte in particular, who will be going into 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.080 his nine year next year, but looks like a fourth 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.359 year player. It doesn't there's no there's no decline, and 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.760 he's such an unselfish player. It's unfortunate for Lavante that him, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.080 Bobby Wagner and Luke Keickley all came in the league 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.600 at about the same time, because I think it's it 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.720 maybe even the exact same year. Keickley and and Lavante 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.240 were the same year, I think two twelve. I'm not 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.520 sure about Wagner. All of them are just phenomenal, phenomenal players, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.199 but Kickle and Wagner have sort of locked down the 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.280 inside linebacker spots for the Pro Bowl, and now that 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.520 Lavante is considered an inside linebacker, I think he's playing 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.760 just as well as those two guys, possibly better. But 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.080 it's pretty hard to crack that. I would love to 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.399 and I know we can, but I would love to 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.080 see how the I mean, there's fan voting, which is 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.400 great this with you know that, but I would love 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:53.400 to see player and coaches voting to see how that. Yeah, yes, 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.679 I mean it it is, But you know, I just 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.800 think Lavante is a really special player, and I think 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.439 we're really, you know, lucky to have him all these years. 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.560 And again, when your team is not winning, you're not 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.639 noticed as much. I do say, I do think that 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.840 that the people that cover this game and your national 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.080 writers and so on, have a decent field for Lavante. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.439 I was reading a guy on the ringer I like 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.520 The Ringer. It's a good sports website and pop culture 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.520 and stuff. And um, one of their writers did his 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.640 All NFL team, So we're not talking to Pro Bowl 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.760 with eight eight players. We're talking one player for fatures. 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.000 So he picked three linebackers and Lavante was one of them. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.600 So nice. There are guys out there that know that. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.000 I don't remember which writer it was on there, but 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:41.399 um yeah, and he also Bill Barne. All the ESPN 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.720 writers got pretty high profile. He's really talked to Vita 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.080