Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at
Speaker 1: the chin, He's to the twenty, he's the twenty five
Speaker 1: thirty to the party yearline history, fifty forty to the
Speaker 1: thirty yards like Michael Rock. Michael Rock, Michael Rod, Stop Tapper,
Speaker 1: hare you go in that sixty two yard for your
Speaker 1: goal attempts. It is God, Good God, God box the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Who can forget again? I'm looking at the already Derek
Speaker 1: Bocks dirty touchdown tamp a day, Derek Brooks, the lost
Speaker 1: pariable player. You're the National Football League third as the
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Speaker 1: We call them the Salty Dogs. Hello everybody, and welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Salty Dogs Podcast. Very special
Speaker 1: edition by the Salty Dogs. Play. Yeah, we're excited about
Speaker 1: our guests this week. We are. Um, it's not one
Speaker 1: of the biggest names on the team. Nope. He's played
Speaker 1: one game and is an NFL career. He has Cody
Speaker 1: McElroy the tight end. But he has a very interesting
Speaker 1: story and I'm not even gonna try to recap it
Speaker 1: now because I thought I would get it right. But
Speaker 1: we just want him to tell us his story of
Speaker 1: how we got here to this place now, and you
Speaker 1: have to make us a Christmas promise. You can't fast
Speaker 1: forward to with the time mark that I give you.
Speaker 1: When Cody starts, we're talking it up like you can,
Speaker 1: but then you have to rewind in the lease. Yes,
Speaker 1: because because we put your show. Yeah, we're putting a
Speaker 1: lot of the way. I'm Scott Smith and I'm Jeff Ryan.
Speaker 1: I remembered it this tide at least before you did well,
Speaker 1: very good. I've been having identity issues. I just have issues.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. So we're for the first time
Speaker 1: in five weeks, we don't get to talk about a win. No.
Speaker 1: I guess we got greedy there from we did and
Speaker 1: it you know, it was comfortable, yeah for us. Um
Speaker 1: So the Bucks lost to the Texans twenty to twenty
Speaker 1: on a rare Saturday afternoon game. I like that. That
Speaker 1: was I like to go in the game on Saturday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think you'll see the NFL do uh to
Speaker 1: Saturdays next year because because as of the Christmas schedule
Speaker 1: the way Christmas will fall next year, and also because
Speaker 1: the three games that we're playing on Saturday were lights out.
Speaker 1: You mean they were good games. They were good games,
Speaker 1: very well. They did real well. I got cross I
Speaker 1: got friends I text with and and I several of
Speaker 1: them were like, I really like this Saturday NFL. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know they don't because of college from yat year.
Speaker 1: But this is an op yeah, and it's a great
Speaker 1: place to place it because usually there's not you know,
Speaker 1: would have been just Bowl games would have been a
Speaker 1: little more entertaining for us. If the Bucks had won
Speaker 1: that game and pulled it out. I would say, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say it would have been more entertaining.
Speaker 1: I would say it would make me feel better. But
Speaker 1: I thought that was a very entertaining I think any
Speaker 1: game that Jamis Winston is involved in has a lot
Speaker 1: of big plays. If I wrote on the board right now,
Speaker 1: five turnovers, how bad did you get beat? Well even worse?
Speaker 1: Three turnovers within the first like sixteen minutes, Three picks again,
Speaker 1: another one on the first drive of the game, which
Speaker 1: he's not in six times now, and I hit the
Speaker 1: button and I said, Okay, game time, it's gonna Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't write I don't count games at kickoffs anymore.
Speaker 1: It's after that first pick six. But so after that,
Speaker 1: then there's another one on the second drive, and there's
Speaker 1: another one early in the second quarter, I believe, and
Speaker 1: pretty soon you're down seventeen to nothing. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing about both Jamis Winston and this team is that
Speaker 1: we've seen that many times in the past. Word that
Speaker 1: would have been it, don't even would have been it.
Speaker 1: Somehow by halftime, it's seventeen seventeen. When we talked to
Speaker 1: coach at half, I could not believe it was seventeen.
Speaker 1: It is mind boggling in the sense. And you have
Speaker 1: to take your hat off to the defense because they
Speaker 1: fantastic game. Houston has a great offense. They only got
Speaker 1: two twenty nine yards. Deshaun Watson was held in check
Speaker 1: and Thandre Hopkins twenty three yards. Karl d that all
Speaker 1: of that is gone by the wayside because of course
Speaker 1: Pixell will Will Jamison is the big topic. But but
Speaker 1: when you look at that's, you know, the Texans are
Speaker 1: a really good team and you you truly neutralized them.
Speaker 1: They had the lowest point to our yards told the
Speaker 1: year to twenty nine. And if you take away, well,
Speaker 1: you can't take away the takeaways because they're there, But
Speaker 1: what was the seventeen points you say off of takeaways?
Speaker 1: One of my math tells me what would have won
Speaker 1: that game? Yeah, but the comeback in the final two
Speaker 1: minutes of the secon of the first half involved things
Speaker 1: like Cody McElroy, who're gonna talk to, catching his first
Speaker 1: pass ever for thirty yards, Ishmael Hyman catching his second
Speaker 1: pass ever for thirty one yards, Justin Watson scoring just
Speaker 1: his second touchdown on another really great red zone play.
Speaker 1: Jamis has made some outstanding red zone plays on the
Speaker 1: move this year. Actually he's done that a lot throughout
Speaker 1: his career. Uh. And then, uh, you know, plays like
Speaker 1: that sprinkled all over the place. And you know, you
Speaker 1: don't have any Mike Evans, you know what, any Chris Godwin.
Speaker 1: You don't have Scotty Miller. I know that's not as
Speaker 1: big of a deal as Evans and Godwin, but he
Speaker 1: was coming on and you're playing with a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys have only been around here for a few weeks. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Brashad Perry and now you know why you got him, dude,
Speaker 1: he's over. He's he said, like five eleven yards now
Speaker 1: and not making easy catches. That's that sideline was. I
Speaker 1: could believe he actually got in intollet and we couldn't
Speaker 1: see it because it was on our side and you
Speaker 1: got all the players in front of you. M But
Speaker 1: if you had said when you signed for Shod to
Speaker 1: be your number three receiver behind Evans and Godwin, and
Speaker 1: he would Evans and Guy when would both make the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and your third receiver would get over five
Speaker 1: hundred yards, you say, Okay, that's exactly what I want
Speaker 1: plus five touchdowns. I'll take that now. Obviously, the opportunity
Speaker 1: has been there for him because Guy went in first
Speaker 1: Evans and then Guy would have been out. But I mean,
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons you need a good third receiver.
Speaker 1: You can't have enough. He wasn't producing in the first
Speaker 1: half of the season because Jamis was basically just throwing
Speaker 1: the ball to Mike and Chris, and why not it
Speaker 1: was working? How can you not right? So? And if
Speaker 1: you weren't, then you would probably be getting yelled at
Speaker 1: for why aren't you finding those guys? So? And when
Speaker 1: it's all when it's all said and done in the wash,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before, where where people wanted
Speaker 1: us to um cut bra shot before the deadline so
Speaker 1: that you could get another compensatory pick, and we've mentioned
Speaker 1: that it probably would end up being like a late
Speaker 1: sixth round pick best of late fifth, which is like
Speaker 1: a sixth. It was the right thing to do. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta know whin to hold them well. And it
Speaker 1: just shows these guys know what they're doing. You know
Speaker 1: that there was some criticism like why would they do that?
Speaker 1: Well because they had to think about why did we
Speaker 1: bring them in to begin with and reevaluate and not
Speaker 1: to mention that the bucks were like two and six
Speaker 1: and and I'm sure there wasn't and I don't blame
Speaker 1: anything for this. I'm sure there wasn't a ton of
Speaker 1: belief out there that was gonna get turned around to
Speaker 1: the extent that has. And I and you know, I
Speaker 1: always see where everybody goes where you you see, well,
Speaker 1: you know he had four wins, but you know they
Speaker 1: weren't against teams with winning records. You gotta play your
Speaker 1: schedule well. True, and maybe the Rams early and we
Speaker 1: almost we took Seattle overtime in Seattle, and uh, and
Speaker 1: you play Jacksonville was bad, but Atlanta was playing good
Speaker 1: when we went there, and they just destroyed Carolina and
Speaker 1: New Orleans on the road too straight weeks. So it's
Speaker 1: not all about the record that you and and it's proven.
Speaker 1: It's proven on any given Sunday because if you look
Speaker 1: real quickly at the Arizona Cardinals beating Seattle in Seattle, Um,
Speaker 1: Atlanta won at San fran a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: There you go. So hard to win in the NFL. Yes,
Speaker 1: every week is a whole new Let me throw something
Speaker 1: out here, Jeff, ready for it? All right? The Bucks
Speaker 1: are seven and eight. Atlanta is coming in town. Pretty much.
Speaker 1: I think the line on this game is even it's
Speaker 1: a it's a battle for second place. Actually, if I
Speaker 1: don't know how much that that matters to you or anybody,
Speaker 1: it does because it matters so where we're traveling. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm getting it. So I'm getting it. Bruce
Speaker 1: arians has said several times how much he and the
Speaker 1: team still want to win this game. Uh, and he
Speaker 1: said the phrase eight and it tastes a lot better
Speaker 1: than no questionn or nine. No question. However, if you're
Speaker 1: if you lose the game, being second or third from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of what you get out of it doesn't
Speaker 1: make any difference. I would rather be second and third, right,
Speaker 1: you will probably have you could have a movement of
Speaker 1: three or four or five picks in the draft order
Speaker 1: to the betterment. I'm saying if the Bucks lose, not
Speaker 1: saying they want to lose the silver lining. No, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get to the question here in a second. And
Speaker 1: then if you lose, you are going to play from
Speaker 1: the West. You're gonna play the Rams here, and your
Speaker 1: road trip will be to the Giants. Those are the
Speaker 1: two games determined by the schedule, by the standings, the
Speaker 1: restaurants already determined. Okay, if you win, either Seattle or
Speaker 1: San fran are coming here, and you're going to either
Speaker 1: Philly or Dallas, depending on what happens in their games
Speaker 1: and who comes in first and second. On paper, if
Speaker 1: you didn't care about winning and losing in this week
Speaker 1: when you're limited for the postseason, the Bucks are probably
Speaker 1: better off in the seven to nine situation. They're presumably
Speaker 1: the Rams the way their seasons gone, although they could
Speaker 1: easily bounce back, are not as difficult as Seattle or
Speaker 1: San Fran and the Giants. And listen, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones becomes a superstar. But I think you'd rather
Speaker 1: play the Giants than the Eagles, right or the Cowboys
Speaker 1: who have disappointed this year but are very talented. You
Speaker 1: make valid points, but so what do you want? You
Speaker 1: want to want to I want eight eight, I want
Speaker 1: to be second and I want And the reason why
Speaker 1: I say that is I don't know what anybody's gonna
Speaker 1: be like next year period, and so I and I
Speaker 1: think for this coaching staff, I think it's a great
Speaker 1: leap if they can put it at eight and eight
Speaker 1: and six or two in the second half of the
Speaker 1: season the first year being here, and I think it
Speaker 1: would be I think it's just good period either. I'd
Speaker 1: rather too because losing and and and three draft picks
Speaker 1: up in front. Personally, if you're not in the top five,
Speaker 1: you can make a difference. But it's hard to predict
Speaker 1: how it can make a difference because you you might
Speaker 1: be sitting there at seventeen and and you're thinking that
Speaker 1: guy is gonna get taken a fifteen we have to trade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And if draft picks were the ultimate ultimate, then you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of Cleveland Browns would be really, really happy.
Speaker 1: Considering how many draft picks. They but they are a
Speaker 1: very valuable asset, especially first and second rounders. Uh And
Speaker 1: the Bucks have proven this year how important draft picks
Speaker 1: are because their draft class has been very, very good.
Speaker 1: And yes, no question, so what you got? Okay? So,
Speaker 1: but I do want to be eight and eight, Yes,
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to end the season. I
Speaker 1: want to say, wow, you know you're six out of eight.
Speaker 1: In the backside, I see the defense playing better, the
Speaker 1: offense is putting up points. Yes, there's things that need
Speaker 1: to be worked on, but a much better taste in
Speaker 1: my mouth at that time. I'm there. Uh So, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go tell Bruce. Okay, we already know that the
Speaker 1: Bucks are trying to win. He wants to win. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing about um, he's not happy, He's not
Speaker 1: he he feels well, he thinks. Yes, my impression of
Speaker 1: my impression of how Bruce is. He feels that he
Speaker 1: had opportunities to get this team to win three more
Speaker 1: games and didn't get it. And there's really nothing he
Speaker 1: can do about a very good kicker missing one yard,
Speaker 1: which I don't think he's missed inside the forty other
Speaker 1: than that one. So that's the Giants game, and then
Speaker 1: he obviously doesn't believe it's his fault or the team's
Speaker 1: fault that the rest blew the whistle too fast on
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Interesting. Interesting, in the Tennessee game there was
Speaker 1: there was not a quick whistle. Yeah, no, there was.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing we were we were robbed of
Speaker 1: a no in our game. No. No, what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is last week we weren't in Tennessee in that test. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was, there was that issue where they didn't blow
Speaker 1: the whistle and they let the play play out. Good
Speaker 1: and John at the TV, where were you back? You know? Now,
Speaker 1: I will say, which did not like this fumble non
Speaker 1: fumble call in the last game. That was the next
Speaker 1: thing that's gonna bring up. And the problem there is
Speaker 1: why there was a quick whistle there because he was
Speaker 1: still forward, probably his legs were still churning. I was like,
Speaker 1: come on, play it out and that boy did Bruce
Speaker 1: react strongly to that. Oh and by the way, never
Speaker 1: ever going to talk about it again. Okay, what past
Speaker 1: interference instant replay done? You just you just you're done
Speaker 1: at the topic. I'm done with it and I and
Speaker 1: I hope they don't. I hope they throw it off
Speaker 1: the books. Well, I do too, and we've said that
Speaker 1: several times. Just get rid of that dumb done because
Speaker 1: they can't. They can't get I saw it all week long,
Speaker 1: all week I can't get it right. You don't know
Speaker 1: what the rule is. It's much I've said this before.
Speaker 1: It's much less infuriating as a fan of a team
Speaker 1: to see up of a flag or a non flag
Speaker 1: that they missed, then to see that it missed and
Speaker 1: it's still not get corrected. And I will say this,
Speaker 1: you know you can't win because one guy one one
Speaker 1: one the If you look at the fan base or
Speaker 1: whoever you're rooting for, you go, oh, that's not pass interference. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's past interference. But deep down all fans know when
Speaker 1: you get away with one and you don't get away
Speaker 1: with Plus you were talking about all across the league
Speaker 1: and there was some of that where you were just
Speaker 1: an objective of yeah, and I'm just like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you just I don't care one way or
Speaker 1: the other. It's not right. So I just hope that
Speaker 1: goes away because I'm tired of it. Yeah, in addition
Speaker 1: to the season, and I think it will make it
Speaker 1: easier on the officiating too. So yeah, agreed, they're just
Speaker 1: going back to the way it was. Uh. And again
Speaker 1: it's the rule is just an overreaction to one big play,
Speaker 1: and that's something that it's a pretty big play. You know,
Speaker 1: that was pretty but it didn't stop that. No, that
Speaker 1: still occurred. It didn't change history. So what did we get? Aggravation? Grief,
Speaker 1: Let's get off the aggravation. He that's kind of topic. Um,
Speaker 1: getting off the aggravating part. Back to the that was
Speaker 1: my festivals. Back to the good stuff. We're talking about.
Speaker 1: One to finish eight, Nate. We also want to see
Speaker 1: this defense have one more really good outing and uh,
Speaker 1: and just continue to make us believe that we've finally
Speaker 1: turned the corner on that side of the ball. And
Speaker 1: you're gonna have your hands full because Julio Jones is back,
Speaker 1: I know, but DeAndre Hopkins came in. Read now you
Speaker 1: prove that you can do it two weeks in a row. Actually,
Speaker 1: Atlanta had Julio Jones when we play them last time,
Speaker 1: but they didn't have Austin Hooper and they didn't have
Speaker 1: Davonte Freeman. And they're both back, so they're gonna be
Speaker 1: even tougher to defend. And that coaching staff is fighting
Speaker 1: for their jobs right now, and the players are fighting
Speaker 1: for their coaches. Yes, and so there's there's that, And
Speaker 1: they could end up eight and eight. No, they can't. Sorry,
Speaker 1: seven and nine, and I'm sorry. And if that happened,
Speaker 1: then we'd both be seven and nine. They'd win the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker for the standings. Now it's terms of the draft
Speaker 1: or that's completely different. That's based on strength and schedule.
Speaker 1: So you could we could be behind them in one
Speaker 1: and ahead of them and the other. Um, but I
Speaker 1: would lay it out like this, we don't know what
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen with all those free agents up front, Shack, Barrett,
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre, Paul, Karl Nassa and Dominicans who those four
Speaker 1: primarily There's some others like Rakim Nunia's roaches, and but
Speaker 1: those are probably the four that you could lose any
Speaker 1: number of them, and I mean you and I'd probably
Speaker 1: like that mall back, but it's probably not realistic, right,
Speaker 1: but you still have Vita Vea. You're probably gonna resign
Speaker 1: at least one or two of those guys, maybe Shacks.
Speaker 1: Let's just say we resigned Shack because we say that
Speaker 1: because both Bruce and Shack have been asked multiple times
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks, and they both have made
Speaker 1: it clear they want to be working together next year,
Speaker 1: so I think there's motivation to get that done. So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say the Bucks get shocked back one
Speaker 1: way or another. You got via Via, even if you
Speaker 1: don't have a Donecansoe, although I hope we do. You
Speaker 1: got Shack Bear. That's a real good start up front,
Speaker 1: your two inside linebackers. Could we ask for a better
Speaker 1: pairer than Devon White and Lavante David? And then your
Speaker 1: secondary all of a sudden looks like you've found it,
Speaker 1: you know. And Bruce was right, although you know, back
Speaker 1: in the back in August we said the secondaries fixed,
Speaker 1: and then the secondaries results were horrendous. It was easy
Speaker 1: to pick on that line, but he meant, as I've
Speaker 1: said before, we that they felt they'd fixed the talent issue,
Speaker 1: that they had the talent on and and it looks
Speaker 1: now like they're right because it's secondary, especially those three
Speaker 1: young corners are playing lights out right, and that'll be
Speaker 1: great because those guys are locked in for a while, right, questions.
Speaker 1: So if you've got a secondary that's playing very well
Speaker 1: and it's getting more confident by the week, you got
Speaker 1: you can't ask for better inside linebackers, and you can
Speaker 1: make that defensive from work with those starters, maybe somebody
Speaker 1: in the draft. Your defense on paper looks pretty good
Speaker 1: to me next year, and that's and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have a good defense. Well, you're still gonna have
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, You're still gonna have Chris Godwin. Uh, and
Speaker 1: we don't know what's gonna happen with James yet. And uh,
Speaker 1: we probably need to make some improvements in the running game,
Speaker 1: whether that be I don't know whether it be new
Speaker 1: backs or or scheme or offensive line, but it's not
Speaker 1: working well enough. But this offense has been pretty good
Speaker 1: year without the turnovers, and sometimes you are you know,
Speaker 1: they they were they were throwing offense. It seems to
Speaker 1: be that seems to be what it is. You'd rather
Speaker 1: have more balanced though. Um, And I think that I
Speaker 1: think they're addressing. I think they're in address, of course.
Speaker 1: And and like some previous coaches have said here, you
Speaker 1: can't go into every offseason and fix every problem at once.
Speaker 1: So there were a lot of things that need to
Speaker 1: fix him. Some of that's been done and now you
Speaker 1: move on to what hasn't been fixed. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just want to say, um, Lavonte David just on. It's
Speaker 1: mind boggling that he the people don't realize how good
Speaker 1: he is. And it might be because you know, the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers were not on national TV all the time and
Speaker 1: so fans don't get to see it. But I think
Speaker 1: fans on Saturday got a real treat to with fifty
Speaker 1: four can do because it was pretty reminsed. He and
Speaker 1: he makes people around us better and and UH coach
Speaker 1: has mentioned and he hasn't said him by name, but
Speaker 1: he's been talking about the defense. He goes, we have
Speaker 1: a lot of young talent and then a lot of
Speaker 1: our older talent is still young. And I think he
Speaker 1: means they still like and I think he's a friend
Speaker 1: to get Lavonte in particular, who will be going into
Speaker 1: his nine year next year, but looks like a fourth
Speaker 1: year player. It doesn't there's no there's no decline, and
Speaker 1: he's such an unselfish player. It's unfortunate for Lavante that him,
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner and Luke Keickley all came in the league
Speaker 1: at about the same time, because I think it's it
Speaker 1: maybe even the exact same year. Keickley and and Lavante
Speaker 1: were the same year, I think two twelve. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about Wagner. All of them are just phenomenal, phenomenal players,
Speaker 1: but Kickle and Wagner have sort of locked down the
Speaker 1: inside linebacker spots for the Pro Bowl, and now that
Speaker 1: Lavante is considered an inside linebacker, I think he's playing
Speaker 1: just as well as those two guys, possibly better. But
Speaker 1: it's pretty hard to crack that. I would love to
Speaker 1: and I know we can, but I would love to
Speaker 1: see how the I mean, there's fan voting, which is
Speaker 1: great this with you know that, but I would love
Speaker 1: to see player and coaches voting to see how that. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean it it is, But you know, I just
Speaker 1: think Lavante is a really special player, and I think
Speaker 1: we're really, you know, lucky to have him all these years.
Speaker 1: And again, when your team is not winning, you're not
Speaker 1: noticed as much. I do say, I do think that
Speaker 1: that the people that cover this game and your national
Speaker 1: writers and so on, have a decent field for Lavante.
Speaker 1: I was reading a guy on the ringer I like
Speaker 1: The Ringer. It's a good sports website and pop culture
Speaker 1: and stuff. And um, one of their writers did his
Speaker 1: All NFL team, So we're not talking to Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: with eight eight players. We're talking one player for fatures.
Speaker 1: So he picked three linebackers and Lavante was one of them.
Speaker 1: So nice. There are guys out there that know that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember which writer it was on there, but
Speaker 1: um yeah, and he also Bill Barne. All the ESPN
Speaker 1: writers got pretty high profile. He's really talked to Vita
Speaker 1: Vea a lot. So if the team starts to win,
Speaker 1: actually be up at all, actually be a I mean
Speaker 1: know we're winning now, but we haven't really had much
Speaker 1: of a playoff folks. If the team is in the
Speaker 1: playoff race throughout a season, Lavante and Vita and guys
Speaker 1: like that are gonna get much more of there. And
Speaker 1: that's been one of the main problems for Lawn Dame
Speaker 1: his career. Well, it's really easy. Anytime you see a
Speaker 1: turnover happening, you pretty much or if he didn't, he's
Speaker 1: gonna recover. He Yeah, he's around it somewhere somehow. He's
Speaker 1: he's involved. Well, I don't know if he was on
Speaker 1: this show. Or some other interview I've done with him.
Speaker 1: But his forced fumbles on running backs is not flukey.
Speaker 1: He knows he He told me like, there's a point
Speaker 1: at which they're getting close to hitting the ground where
Speaker 1: they take one hand off the ball to brace themselves,
Speaker 1: and that he usually tries to swipe at exactly that moment. Now,
Speaker 1: being able to see and do that, knowing that but
Speaker 1: also being able to do it is two different things.
Speaker 1: But you take a shot. But he clearly has done
Speaker 1: it a lot of times. He's had twenty one forced
Speaker 1: fumbles since he came in the league in UM two
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, which I think is sixth. But if you
Speaker 1: look at the top ten on that list, it's all J. J. Watt,
Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan pass rush types who get a lot of
Speaker 1: their force fumbles on strip SAX, which is great, that's phenomenal,
Speaker 1: But when you're talking about forcing fumbles past the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, Lavante Dame is probably the best player in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And another thing, Shack Barrett was shut out
Speaker 1: in sacks. JPP just scores three and you don't know,
Speaker 1: But then unbelievable game in Seattle, Arizona, Chandler Jones four
Speaker 1: sacks in one game takes it up to nineteen. That
Speaker 1: you're nineteen. So Shack was leading almost wired to wire,
Speaker 1: wire to wire and then Sam, can you believe Shack
Speaker 1: and still get the team record? He's got a share
Speaker 1: of it, He's got he's one more. You could break
Speaker 1: the record, or you can get really hot and roll
Speaker 1: three four. Hopefully he's done it before and hope Chandler
Speaker 1: Jones gets I mean crazy, Yeah, it's funny. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fantasy football guy, as you well know
Speaker 1: I am, but I know I'm getting tired of it.
Speaker 1: And uh so what I liked was watching that game
Speaker 1: and uh seeing Chandler Jones every time you got a sack.
Speaker 1: I was mad. I mean I was, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: why am I mad? You know why am I epic?
Speaker 1: Because I wanted Shack to get it and I wanted
Speaker 1: I want that. You know how I know I'm getting
Speaker 1: tired of fantasy football because you're out of it. Because
Speaker 1: when I when I get eliminated and it's the final,
Speaker 1: like two or three weeks this season, I'm always like,
Speaker 1: this is cool. I don't have to worry about anything fantasy.
Speaker 1: I can just enjoy this game. Funny. I was watching.
Speaker 1: I was reading. I don't worry. I was reading. I
Speaker 1: was reading an article and the writers said and highlights
Speaker 1: the magazine maybe weekly reader. Um, he writes, I know
Speaker 1: you get bored when I talk about my fantasy team,
Speaker 1: and I thought of you. Well, and then he said,
Speaker 1: but I'm not talking about my fantasy team because I
Speaker 1: am out of it. And I went, I gotta ask, Scott,
Speaker 1: how did your fantasy team do? With all the Buccaneer fans?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I thought we've talked about this, right, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I made the playoffs. It was only one
Speaker 1: of the three of us pro okay, who made the playoffs? Well? Five?
Speaker 1: What if I told you the names wouldn't matter. They
Speaker 1: are listening. They would like to let me try to
Speaker 1: Jason Swinford, Justin Beats, Chris umbra Ski, Brandon Durfy Me
Speaker 1: and oh boy, I feel bad for the one I
Speaker 1: can oh, Christopher Hatton, who actually was the number one seeds.
Speaker 1: So my team had fallen. It was it had no
Speaker 1: depth about you. Of the pros, you're talking about the
Speaker 1: three insiders me and Casey Phillips and Carmen Vitality. Uh
Speaker 1: they Carmen came close but did not make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Casey finished last in the league. I snuck into the
Speaker 1: playoffs even though I lost like my last three or
Speaker 1: four games because everybody was hurt and I had absolutely
Speaker 1: no depth, which was bad managing. And I'm not blaming
Speaker 1: the fates, and was bad managing. You're you're a good coach.
Speaker 1: Bad That was easy to beat. Uh. In fact, I
Speaker 1: lost to the eventual champion in the first round. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that was Jason Swinford. He beat he beat Justin
Speaker 1: Beats in the final and that and actually Justin Beats
Speaker 1: had stuff on digs last night and he almost made
Speaker 1: up the thirty two point to come all the way back,
Speaker 1: but not quite. So that guy Jason is going to
Speaker 1: be here on Thursday. This Thursday. Yeah, we're gonna give
Speaker 1: him his prize is We're gonna give him the championship belt. Um,
Speaker 1: and then he gets tickets and sideline passes. Oh I
Speaker 1: want to go talk to him. Okay, well he's he's
Speaker 1: coming around at four o'clock on Thursday because I want
Speaker 1: to him for beating me. Yeah, there's five guys you
Speaker 1: could talk about it. Talk about a nice Christmas I
Speaker 1: think in retrospect it's quite clear that, um, we called
Speaker 1: ourselves the pros. But since I mainly play recreationally, are
Speaker 1: guys out there that really put a lot more into
Speaker 1: this and are very very good at it. But it
Speaker 1: was a fun thing. We're gonna keep doing it. That
Speaker 1: was my next question. Are you gonna do it again? Fun?
Speaker 1: You do the draft? I can still get lucky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do the draft like you did before this league.
Speaker 1: All all the fans who won the contest got to
Speaker 1: come with us and draft right instead the career room
Speaker 1: that Jason Letton company do real drafts for the bucks.
Speaker 1: I think everybody really like that. And if for anybody
Speaker 1: didn't already know, Mike Evans came into the room, one
Speaker 1: of our drafters, Becky Hartman, drafted Mike Evans and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, about half an hour later he walked in
Speaker 1: the room and and thank her and gave her a
Speaker 1: big hug a thing. And so she was the winner
Speaker 1: from the very beginning. She didn't care. She got her
Speaker 1: team also turned around did quite well. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to say that as you rattled off all
Speaker 1: these people's names, I am your witness. You have no
Speaker 1: papers in front. I didn't know you're gonna ask me,
Speaker 1: So I totally respect the fact that you knew all
Speaker 1: the people who I've been writing a recab. I've been
Speaker 1: writing a written article recapping all but it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how you remember it. I I am horrible with names, horrible,
Speaker 1: and so I always third and fourth place, where Christopher
Speaker 1: Hatton and Brandon Durfy and then the other one who
Speaker 1: came in Foo. Why'd your story coming out? I'm waiting
Speaker 1: till Thursday because usually there on Tuesday, but since he's
Speaker 1: coming to visit on Thursday, we'll do it all right.
Speaker 1: Get a picture with him with the championship. Were very good?
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else? No? I think we've covered
Speaker 1: a lot. Uh and uh. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I want to get to the Cody met I. Here's
Speaker 1: my plan, Jeff, because I've looked through his path here
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to give it any of it
Speaker 1: away right now. But I'm almost certain that if I
Speaker 1: tried to recap it and to ask him questions, I
Speaker 1: get it wrong. Yeah, And I'm gonna say, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: Cody go, I have to agree with you because what
Speaker 1: I've what I've looked at and seen it. It almost
Speaker 1: doesn't seem real. It's it seems like something very few
Speaker 1: people have ever done. I think I think it's very appropriate.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's the Salty Dogs Christians. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of and there's a lot of gaps. He's going to
Speaker 1: fill in for us, and so let's get to that
Speaker 1: right now. All right, the Salty Dogs, And we're back
Speaker 1: here on the Salty Dogs Podcast. I'm Scott Smith and
Speaker 1: I am jeff Ryant, and now we're joined by Cody McElroy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for your time. Ye problem Christmas Eve days, it
Speaker 1: was even more valuable your noticed. Poor guy could hardly
Speaker 1: get off the field. We got him. Grab it well, Cody,
Speaker 1: we didn't even know you a couple of months ago.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think when I just introduced myself is
Speaker 1: probably the first time that you and I have talked.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, I mean, it's beyond interesting how you've gotten
Speaker 1: to this point. And if I tried to recap it,
Speaker 1: I'd probably mess it up. But I'm multiple sports, uh,
Speaker 1: minor leagues things like that. Can you just give us
Speaker 1: kind of the recap of how you went through three
Speaker 1: different sports and end up as an NFL tight end. Okay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I went to high school, a Chattanooga High
Speaker 1: school in Oklahoma. I'm from Frederick, Oklahoma. Went to high school.
Speaker 1: Like I said, a Chattanooga high school is a little
Speaker 1: bitty school. I had eighteen kids in my class, and
Speaker 1: so at a one room school. H it was seven
Speaker 1: through twelve in the same hallway. Yeah, yeah, same. There's
Speaker 1: like five teachers there. We have the math teacher two
Speaker 1: thousand and eleven. I still like that right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I went there. Um, obviously we weren't big enough
Speaker 1: to have football, so we played baseball in the fall,
Speaker 1: and then basketball, and then baseball get in the spring
Speaker 1: as it should be with all kids, playoffs. Everything didn't
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to play, right So so I never
Speaker 1: gonna play football. I played in junior high in middle school.
Speaker 1: But you know I got to high school, we didn't
Speaker 1: have it, didn't get to play. Um, so I played baseball.
Speaker 1: UM played basketball in the summers. I played baseball. Um
Speaker 1: kind of thought that was gonna be my career, that
Speaker 1: was gonna be my future. Um. So end up going
Speaker 1: to a junior college to high school. Played there for
Speaker 1: a year. I was a short stop a short stop. No,
Speaker 1: I was a lot skinnier then, but so I was
Speaker 1: a short stop played there at the Eastern Oklahoma State
Speaker 1: Junior College. UM was there a year and went to
Speaker 1: the University of Texas after that. UM was there a year.
Speaker 1: My junior year, I went. I went back home to
Speaker 1: schooling a lot in Oklahoma Cameron University, and I played
Speaker 1: my junior year there, and I was drafted by the
Speaker 1: Braves from there. Possibly. Yeah, I've read so many stories
Speaker 1: and so they salty dogs are bringing you the tree.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so so okay at this point you just
Speaker 1: got drafted by the Braves in the nineties when yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. So I was with Braves. Um. They
Speaker 1: sent me to Danville, Virginia for advanced rookie ball. Um.
Speaker 1: So I went there. I was there for a couple
Speaker 1: of months. They moved me up to Class A which
Speaker 1: was in Rome, Georgia team the Rome Braves. It was
Speaker 1: a Danville Braves in the Rome Braves. Yep. Um. So
Speaker 1: I was in Rome. Very creative with their names that
Speaker 1: they do. They do, but the Braves, so when I
Speaker 1: was there, they owned all their affiliates and so they
Speaker 1: would stayed with the Braves. I think the high team.
Speaker 1: They don't own the High team, so they had a
Speaker 1: different name. But other than that, they're all Braves. So anyways,
Speaker 1: come back. The next year, UM went to spring training.
Speaker 1: UM got sent back to Rome to Class A out
Speaker 1: of spring training. Was there for a couple of months
Speaker 1: and kind of knew, you know, baseball wasn't the thing
Speaker 1: for me. UM, I wanted to go another route. UM.
Speaker 1: I was drafted as a junior, so I hadn't finished
Speaker 1: school yet. UM, so I didn't. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: bounce around the minor leagues or however long and they
Speaker 1: never make it to the show and not have a
Speaker 1: degree and things like that. So I decided to go
Speaker 1: back to school. UM. I knew I had one more
Speaker 1: year left of eligibility of Division one school, So I
Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma State. UM, and knew I was gonna
Speaker 1: play basketball there. So yep, as like a three or four,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be our best. I mean, it's an
Speaker 1: amazing interview because I think we're only gonna have to
Speaker 1: ask for one question is a Christmas story. So now
Speaker 1: we're at Oklahomas, so I'm an open state. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: walk on, you have walked on? So I got there
Speaker 1: in the summer. Um, I just went walking around the gym,
Speaker 1: found the coach, found somebody that knew somebody that could
Speaker 1: get me, ahold of somebody that could email somebody else
Speaker 1: staff and I said, okay, do it. And um so
Speaker 1: anyways I got to meet the head coach. Um, he
Speaker 1: saw me, saw my size, he kind of heard my story,
Speaker 1: you know, so he said, yeah, you can try out.
Speaker 1: So he said, you got any shoes with you? I
Speaker 1: said yeah, So I had a try out that day,
Speaker 1: Um went, well, um, they can't ride. After the try out,
Speaker 1: well went, we just played pick up pretty much. And
Speaker 1: right after that the camp and said yeah, you're on
Speaker 1: the team. We got waits tomorrow morning at six am.
Speaker 1: So just like that, it was rolling and it was
Speaker 1: the best time in my life. I was there for
Speaker 1: a year. Um didn't play a ton, but I mean
Speaker 1: the friends I made there, you know, they're still my
Speaker 1: best friends, talk to him all the time, great people.
Speaker 1: That coach was great, still in contact with them. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was awesome. I really enjoyed my year there and
Speaker 1: I graduated. Um, when I when I graduated, so when
Speaker 1: I was there, I was talking to the baseball coach
Speaker 1: a little bit. Hey, I'm coming back to school here.
Speaker 1: I want to coach baseball. I'm playing basketball. I'm here,
Speaker 1: I got a year left, gonna graduate. But i'd love,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have something open to g A
Speaker 1: something like that, you know, I'd i'd love to, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe work with you. And he said, you know, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see what we got when the when the years over.
Speaker 1: So when I graduated, we talked again and I had
Speaker 1: a g A spot opening, so he hired me. There's
Speaker 1: as g A. And I mean I was there in
Speaker 1: the fall and that would have been fall often as
Speaker 1: a g A for the baseball staff. UM that November
Speaker 1: December which Stall State hired me to come be their
Speaker 1: volunteer assistant as the infielders coach. So I was there
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen coach the infielders, coach the hitters, and UM,
Speaker 1: just seeing the travel that those coaches do, recruiting and
Speaker 1: and always on the road, and you know in college
Speaker 1: and the pros you get a little bit more off time.
Speaker 1: In college with recruiting and things like that, it's year round.
Speaker 1: You're never off. And I didn't think that's what I
Speaker 1: wanted for my life. So I went back and enrolled
Speaker 1: at school, Southeastern Oklahoma State University, and Um, I was
Speaker 1: just gonna get a safety degree. I wanted to get old.
Speaker 1: Old is a big industry in Oklahoma. I wanted to
Speaker 1: get into the old industry to be a safety man
Speaker 1: out there. And uh, you know, work a little more
Speaker 1: normal schedule. You get to go home every night, things
Speaker 1: like that. Um. So I enrolled down there. I was
Speaker 1: taking all the intro classes. Um it was only gonna
Speaker 1: take me a year to finish the program. So the
Speaker 1: first semester is all intro. Second semester I would have
Speaker 1: done all the you know, the the harder work and
Speaker 1: was gonna be done. So I was had some free
Speaker 1: time and I was a little bored the first semester.
Speaker 1: I didn't know the school had football. I didn't know
Speaker 1: the school had football. What's their name, Southeastern Oklahoma State University,
Speaker 1: the Savage Storm. So I didn't I didn't know they
Speaker 1: had football when I got there. I was walking around
Speaker 1: campus one day in between classes, and uh, walk up
Speaker 1: on the football field. I said, well, I don't maybe
Speaker 1: they have football. I was at Cameron University playing baseball.
Speaker 1: We had a football field in the stadium, but We
Speaker 1: didn't have a football there, so I didn't know if
Speaker 1: they had football high school team mus who knows. So
Speaker 1: I went in the field house and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: uh you got a football team here. They said yes.
Speaker 1: I talked to the coach, they said, who are you.
Speaker 1: I just kind of say size, I don't know, to
Speaker 1: see if he could use a body. So he come
Speaker 1: out and uh, I asked. I said, hey, I mean
Speaker 1: I've never played before. I got some time. I got it,
Speaker 1: I got a year left. And uh, I mean because
Speaker 1: you use a body, And he said, well you can.
Speaker 1: You can run. I said, you knew that part, I hope.
Speaker 1: So he said, well running. He we got on the field,
Speaker 1: he said, all right, run a corner. I looked, what
Speaker 1: do you He said, run twelve yards and then break
Speaker 1: towards the corner. So I ran twelve yards and I
Speaker 1: broke towards the corner. They thowd me the fast I
Speaker 1: catch it. He said, yeah, you're on the team, just
Speaker 1: like ye one route And I didn't even have cleats on.
Speaker 1: I was wearing tennishet and so U. Anyways, he said
Speaker 1: I'm on the team. He said, you gotta get all
Speaker 1: this stuff done. So this was on a Sunday, and
Speaker 1: the first game of the season was that Thursday. So
Speaker 1: with n C Double A, you can't even wear you
Speaker 1: gotta have two days no pads at all, then one
Speaker 1: day in a helmet, and then you know, all that start.
Speaker 1: So the first day I've ever worn pads was the
Speaker 1: first game, and so we get to go out there
Speaker 1: and play. I got some playing time. Um. The following
Speaker 1: week we played somebody. Um they had a cornerback that
Speaker 1: was getting looked at. UM, I had a good game.
Speaker 1: He was guarding me all game, and so you know,
Speaker 1: some some I saw me just by accident kinda, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of just kind of went from there. And
Speaker 1: it was the Rams that Yeah, the Rams. Well, there
Speaker 1: were several teams that called UM and offered deals. I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna maybe get drafted in the seventh round.
Speaker 1: UM end up not getting drafted. There were several teams
Speaker 1: that offered free agent deals. Um, the Rams give me
Speaker 1: the most money guaranteed, and uh, at the time, I
Speaker 1: didn't know a lot about football. I didn't know looking
Speaker 1: into rosters, needs and things like that. Um, they gave
Speaker 1: me the most guaranteed money. So I went there, learned
Speaker 1: a lot um, have you ever had a tryout in
Speaker 1: your life where you didn't immediately make the tea? I
Speaker 1: mean when I came here. When I came here, they
Speaker 1: gave me four weeks where they brought me back as
Speaker 1: long as he's ever had to wait, I thought, and immediately.
Speaker 1: So now you've gone through all that and you end
Speaker 1: up as a tight end in the NFL. Is do
Speaker 1: you feel now at this point that, Okay, maybe this
Speaker 1: is what my size and skill set was the best
Speaker 1: man for all along? You know, you never know, maybe
Speaker 1: so um, who knows. When I got cut by the
Speaker 1: Rams last year out of camp Um, I got a
Speaker 1: job doing pharmaceutical sales and uh so I was working
Speaker 1: with pharmaceutical sales company. Never thought I'd play football again,
Speaker 1: and I felt like, you know, maybe my my size
Speaker 1: kind of helped me there with the personal skills and
Speaker 1: talking to people and you know, coming in and be
Speaker 1: on the demand of room and things like that. So
Speaker 1: maybe it's not sports that it's meant for. Who knows, um,
Speaker 1: But as of right now, that's what I'm doing. So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to use it to my advantage
Speaker 1: to the oil industry. I don't I don't think I will,
Speaker 1: just because I don't want to go back to school
Speaker 1: and finish that degree. And I really liked the farming seals.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it a lot, and it was it was
Speaker 1: doing well for me, and I was I was getting
Speaker 1: better at it and I was learning a lot. But
Speaker 1: the Cowboys called me in March, February and March and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you got a legitimate chance here, um, if you want
Speaker 1: to come back. So it was tough for me to
Speaker 1: leave the farmer job because I was thinking I was
Speaker 1: gonna do that for a while. But I'm glad I
Speaker 1: took the chance with the Cowboys and I've developed a
Speaker 1: ton they're coaching us Smiter there, I mean he and
Speaker 1: Jason Whitton. Of course, you know, just being in the
Speaker 1: room and listening to those guys talk, um, it just
Speaker 1: did a ton for me. So go ahead. No, I am,
Speaker 1: he's at I am. What I'm taking out of this
Speaker 1: is here's a guy that goes, you know what, I
Speaker 1: think I'll try this. He doesn't. He You do not
Speaker 1: know what no means when I and when I say
Speaker 1: by that is you don't already talk yourself out of
Speaker 1: what you what you kind of want to do. Or
Speaker 1: you go check it out, which is pretty remarkable, because
Speaker 1: that's what happens. Most people talk themselves out of it
Speaker 1: before they even apply for anything. Is that all accurate?
Speaker 1: You know? I think so. But I think I've I've
Speaker 1: always weighed my decisions, and I've always really put a
Speaker 1: lot of thought into what I was gonna do and
Speaker 1: what I wasn't gonna do. And I think this far,
Speaker 1: I've made the right decision along the way, and now
Speaker 1: my paths bouncing round. And I've never planned for that
Speaker 1: to happen. But every time I've been faced with a
Speaker 1: choice to go one way or the other, you know,
Speaker 1: I've put a lot of thought into and didn't just
Speaker 1: do it because, oh I want to do it, you know,
Speaker 1: I did it because I thought there was a little
Speaker 1: bit legitimate chance that something could come from that. Um.
Speaker 1: If if the Cowboys thing wouldn't have been a chance
Speaker 1: where I thought I could legitimately stick around, whether that
Speaker 1: be fifty three men or whether that be you know,
Speaker 1: practice what, I wouldn't have done it. But the way
Speaker 1: Jason witn't came back, um, and so probably they weren't
Speaker 1: gonna draft another tied into that that case, and him
Speaker 1: coming back. I wasn't gonna be the starter anyways, you know.
Speaker 1: So that opened up the bottom of the roster though,
Speaker 1: because you know when they're not gonna bring in as
Speaker 1: many guys. So I've thought about it, and it's not
Speaker 1: just been something that, oh, yeah, I'll just try that
Speaker 1: because I don't want to know. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a legitimate chance. Um, we we, I know we do
Speaker 1: have to wrap it up. But he caught a touchdown pass. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't touch on, it was we can Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got time. So you play your first game ever
Speaker 1: in the NFL, uh, and you end up making a
Speaker 1: really big play that led to a touchdown during a
Speaker 1: good comeback in the last two minutes of the second half.
Speaker 1: So what do you just wanted to stripe and play? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I had to go route, and that was my
Speaker 1: favorite route in college and college I never really knew
Speaker 1: the offense or anything. I had a wrist band and
Speaker 1: i'd look at it and i'd look at one of
Speaker 1: the coaches on the sidelines and he'd give me a number.
Speaker 1: The rest of the team would have a number, and
Speaker 1: in said the play, he'd give me a number and
Speaker 1: just tell me what route to rock. There's a slot
Speaker 1: fade in college, what we call it, and that's what
Speaker 1: the route I had here was. And uh so I
Speaker 1: went down there and and luckily Jamis threw it to me.
Speaker 1: He trusted me, threw it to me. You put it
Speaker 1: right where he needed to put it um for me
Speaker 1: to make a play on the ball, and luckily I
Speaker 1: held onto somebody I suggested it look like you were
Speaker 1: boxing the out. Yeah, I saw that on Twitter like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that fairly accurate? I guess yeah. They called screening
Speaker 1: and I guess yeah, Well I was exciting. It's always
Speaker 1: this interview. We appreciate it. Yeah, we'd seriously, I know
Speaker 1: it's a great story. Yeah it is. It is a
Speaker 1: great story, and we appreciate your time and continue success.
Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing what you can do one
Speaker 1: more game this year anyway, So yeah, thanks, thanks guy
Speaker 1: the Salty Dogs, and we're back here on the Salty
Speaker 1: Dogs Podcast for our final segment. Jeff is still laughing.
Speaker 1: That is that is. I just want to say, I
Speaker 1: don't know what pro rating ten minutes of my salary is,
Speaker 1: but that was the easiest money I ever made. Was
Speaker 1: like pull the string and go, and it was entertaining
Speaker 1: the whole way totally and appreciate it is. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful life. That's that's what that was. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, it makes you one root for him,
Speaker 1: But I don't think it matters. I mean, if if
Speaker 1: this NFL thing doesn't pan out on the long run,
Speaker 1: he's obviously gonna be fine. He seems to be. Yes,
Speaker 1: if he breaks out of his shell, he'll be okay.
Speaker 1: So all right, Hey, you can do a lot worse
Speaker 1: things than pharmaceuticals. So question. You can make a lot
Speaker 1: of money, no question. All right, we've got questions. But
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row people have responded, I like it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's that time of year. I guess some of these
Speaker 1: are some you're gonna like one of these. We haven't
Speaker 1: heard from her in a long time. Okay, you probably
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about. Wait and see. All right, hey, dogs,
Speaker 1: marry Christmas a little bit early. No, not really, because
Speaker 1: today's is massive, Yeah, recording for us. They probably will
Speaker 1: put this up around the world. As you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: Christmas is already probably pat well, it's going up to Wow,
Speaker 1: it might go up tomorrow. I don't know, well, that
Speaker 1: was really entertaining. I was just watching the Gears turn
Speaker 1: watching football this weekend. Buddy and I got into a
Speaker 1: discussion that I thought you might be able to help with.
Speaker 1: When a team wins the Super Bowl, who gets a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring? Every player that has been on the
Speaker 1: team at any point during the season. Example, would Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown get a Super Bowl ring if the Patriots win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Or is it only players players that
Speaker 1: are on the team at the time of the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl win? Also does anyone besides players, coaches and player
Speaker 1: personnel get one? Thanks Sam n Now I think we've
Speaker 1: had a question from him before from National Tennessee. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of time Packer. You're right that everybody
Speaker 1: on football side, that's what we call it, football side,
Speaker 1: uh gets rings. Most of the time teams do give
Speaker 1: players rings. It depends they don't have to. It's a
Speaker 1: team decision. So New England's gonna have to decide and
Speaker 1: it maybe it's kind of thing like weighing, you know,
Speaker 1: was there really much of a contribution here and the
Speaker 1: way he and the way he left, So it's up
Speaker 1: to them whether or not they want to give them.
Speaker 1: They're not obligated to UM, you also give rings. There's
Speaker 1: always some guys from a super Bowl winning team that
Speaker 1: have that then leave in free agency, but they always
Speaker 1: get rings I can think of. I think Ultramant Singleton
Speaker 1: and Dexter Jackson for US. UM, the you do well,
Speaker 1: we only have you and I only have one experience
Speaker 1: with being on a team that got Super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: there were super Bowl rings for just about everybody, although
Speaker 1: they were two different varieties. Uh, and then UM, and
Speaker 1: the staff that we have now is a lot bigger
Speaker 1: than it was in two thousand two. So I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what you would do. You don't, you're not a
Speaker 1: Teams aren't obligated to do it, so it just depends
Speaker 1: on what they want to do. In the way it works, too,
Speaker 1: is the NFL has X amount of dollars they give
Speaker 1: to a team and say you can design your super
Speaker 1: Bowl ring. Here's here's our contribution, and then the team
Speaker 1: adds to and how they want to do it, and
Speaker 1: and the team decides how they want to distribute rings,
Speaker 1: whether they do it totally through all the executives, and
Speaker 1: how it's done so it's done on a on a
Speaker 1: I'd really like to find out one more time. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different administration, and I will say I will say this. Um,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I want to win. Yes, I
Speaker 1: understand that I wasn't working for the team then, so
Speaker 1: you were. Um, but I did get uh one of
Speaker 1: the types of rings and they called it an executive ring,
Speaker 1: and I did get I did receive one of those.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. It's still pretty cool. And um, so yes,
Speaker 1: I would like to experience the Super Bowl again because
Speaker 1: it was all a blur to me because I was
Speaker 1: just working too much. I don't I remember the game.
Speaker 1: I remember the game, but back then I was running
Speaker 1: a sports station plus the Buccaneer Radio network, So I
Speaker 1: mean I was just all over the place when we
Speaker 1: won that Super Bowl. Um. So they're the team travel
Speaker 1: the regular traveling party. Everybody who was in the regular
Speaker 1: traveling party got to They didn't come on the same flight,
Speaker 1: but got to bring a spouse or a significant other.
Speaker 1: So there was a plane for all those people. And
Speaker 1: then everybody who was on our staff but was not
Speaker 1: on the traveling party got to fly out there as well.
Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool. So cool in my instance
Speaker 1: in case my wife was there, although our team plane
Speaker 1: went up like on Monday, and then um Thursday, and
Speaker 1: then the coaches came a couple days later, right, they
Speaker 1: took the fine uh and then then too then the
Speaker 1: I think the other planes came in on Thursday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you gotta remember that was the last time that
Speaker 1: a championship game and a Super Bowl was a week later.
Speaker 1: There was not a two week to leave, that's correct.
Speaker 1: So it was a real quick turn arouse. We got
Speaker 1: back from Philly and then flew out the next Yeah,
Speaker 1: we weren't even home for Philly twelve hours and we're
Speaker 1: on our way to San Diego. He just basically spending
Speaker 1: all your time packing for it was although it's not
Speaker 1: hard to pack for we know, and the way it
Speaker 1: was great, excellent experience. The other thing about this is
Speaker 1: it's not just rings. There's also Super Bowl shares because,
Speaker 1: like I think, in every sport, professional sport, when you
Speaker 1: win the championship, you get x amount of dollars per
Speaker 1: shares what they call it, and pretty much any active
Speaker 1: player or coach is going to get a full share.
Speaker 1: But then the team can decide how to break down
Speaker 1: other shares. So maybe if you have I mean just
Speaker 1: randomly making up an example. If you have four guys
Speaker 1: in the equipment room, maybe you split up two shares
Speaker 1: between them, or one share or whatever, or the head
Speaker 1: guy gets half a share in the next case, something
Speaker 1: along those lines. And that's a random example, having nothing
Speaker 1: to do with our particular staff. Um, that's an issue
Speaker 1: for these players that were only here a little while,
Speaker 1: Like do do you give a share to? Like? Can
Speaker 1: we think of an example of Vernon Hargraves the Bucks
Speaker 1: won the super Bowl this year, which obviously can't happen,
Speaker 1: But if he did, would you give him a share?
Speaker 1: Would you? You know? Or a part of a share?
Speaker 1: It'd probably be a portion of his shares, one I
Speaker 1: would think pro rate. So yeah, there's a lot to Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's but let's just say this, it's a nice problem
Speaker 1: to have, and I hope we have. You know what
Speaker 1: I got from the last super Bowl? A month the
Speaker 1: hardest work, A month of work. You wrote a really
Speaker 1: fascinating book. I thank you. I wrote the super Bowl
Speaker 1: book I have. I have a couple of copies that
Speaker 1: I wrote that thing in like one month. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: It was NonStop day and night for a month. It is.
Speaker 1: It was the hardest month of work in my entire life,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad we did it. I will say this,
Speaker 1: it's fun to go back through that book because you
Speaker 1: as you read it, you it all comes to life
Speaker 1: because you lived it. But it comes to life because
Speaker 1: let me let you in on something and anybody else
Speaker 1: who's seen that book. I originally wrote a hundred and
Speaker 1: ten thousand words for that book, and then we decided
Speaker 1: we wanted more pictures to make the book look better.
Speaker 1: And every time you use a page for a picture,
Speaker 1: you're losing thousands of words. So I whatever, We're gonna
Speaker 1: do that, and I understood, but I'm like, oh God,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to edit my own stuff down.
Speaker 1: So the poor PR guys at the time did it.
Speaker 1: Took it upon themselves to edit. So you had a
Speaker 1: thousand words in the book, and I can't think it
Speaker 1: ended up being forties something thousand. But if you see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how much gout out. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of work, but it was well done. It was
Speaker 1: the right decision. It was the right decision. This was
Speaker 1: hard for me at the time, but I see, I
Speaker 1: don't think you should have been the one to edit
Speaker 1: it because you wrote it, and so in fairness to you,
Speaker 1: I mean that's anybody who writes as an editor. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. If it was little things, I probably would
Speaker 1: have wanted to do it. But it was such a
Speaker 1: big thing. It was like, this is gonna kill me
Speaker 1: that edit all this stuff? What because all my work
Speaker 1: is fantastic? How could this be? All right? Next question?
Speaker 1: All right, this is from our old friend, our old friend,
Speaker 1: Dear Jeff and Scott. Just a note to wish you
Speaker 1: both a merry Christmas and or happy Hanukkah Christmas and
Speaker 1: my Christmas. In my case, the books have surely brought
Speaker 1: some holiday cheer to their fans these past four games,
Speaker 1: haven't they. This was sent in before the most recent game.
Speaker 1: Watching the replay of Sean Murphy untings pick six, I
Speaker 1: was struck by how much he looked like Rande Barber
Speaker 1: running the one. Actually, she just says, Rande running the
Speaker 1: one in the playoff game in Philly. His stride is
Speaker 1: so similar. But of course I will never be another Runde.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I wish there would be another Rundey. I
Speaker 1: don't do great. Thank you both for the information and
Speaker 1: entertainment you provide each week, Tampa Bay fans are lucky
Speaker 1: to have you. Thank you your old nurse friend Rusty
Speaker 1: and Rusty Cheney. I think, thanks rust and she's always
Speaker 1: when it rates old nurse. Yeah, but in there you
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. You're we're old, your former nurse,
Speaker 1: you're your nurse friends, you're your friend, You're a nurse.
Speaker 1: Nurse all the time. Well, first of all, nurses are awesome.
Speaker 1: I think we've said that before. Um okay, I just
Speaker 1: want I was nice. I heard from her, but somebody
Speaker 1: else said this to me, and I think it was
Speaker 1: even like the night of the game. I know you
Speaker 1: no no, but you told me about a conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I kind of agreed with it. I agree with
Speaker 1: what Rusty saying. I disagree, no offense. I know why
Speaker 1: you're going to say it didn't I know, maybe she
Speaker 1: says his stride, so maybe that. But it didn't look
Speaker 1: anything like the RANDE played to me. I understand that,
Speaker 1: but it was similar in the situation of Oh, that
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of something. That's what it reminded me.
Speaker 1: What that we clinched a game that we were winning
Speaker 1: in Detroit against the against the non playoff team the same.
Speaker 1: It was just their game over the situation all of it.
Speaker 1: I could see where this play, this play, Sean was
Speaker 1: covering Amunde and he saw he read the route and
Speaker 1: um and knew what was coming and made a fast
Speaker 1: break and caught the ball way out by the sideline.
Speaker 1: And then it was a great play and then you
Speaker 1: know obviously ran on touch some man yards for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Randi was also playing in the slot on his pick,
Speaker 1: but he didn't have to break to the sideline. He
Speaker 1: he faked a blitz because donovand mcnabbtt had when he
Speaker 1: blitzed earlier on one play. I think Randey had one
Speaker 1: or two sacks in the game too. But when he
Speaker 1: blitzed on one play that didn't or Diamond mcna read
Speaker 1: it and threw right to the spot he vacated. So
Speaker 1: Randi purposely faked at hoping he would do the same thing,
Speaker 1: which he did. So all he did was step up,
Speaker 1: let him see him, and then when he wasn't looking,
Speaker 1: he stepped back and he was just basically there. And
Speaker 1: then when Dinovan's turned to throw, that's when he cut
Speaker 1: in front of the receiver, which I can't think of
Speaker 1: his name right now. I think he was the guy
Speaker 1: that was a former packer, So it wasn't anywhere. It
Speaker 1: was more like down the scene rather than out by
Speaker 1: the sideline. I mean he got to the sideline because
Speaker 1: that's what you're supposed to win the game. That's why
Speaker 1: it's similar, don't It's just technical stuff. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean we're talking about the greatest play in the history
Speaker 1: of this But I have to admit when it happened,
Speaker 1: it did flash I know, like similar. Yeah, that's just
Speaker 1: your lack of imagination. Okay, next question, Oh mighty saltines,
Speaker 1: first time we've had that one like it? Uh? First off, Scott,
Speaker 1: you should know that last week Jeff brought in the
Speaker 1: outroy music under your final thought really loud and couldn't
Speaker 1: hear your final words for somebody, Jeff with so much
Speaker 1: technical experience, I mean, come on, man, First of all,
Speaker 1: go have your ears checked. That's one. Are you sure
Speaker 1: to positive go have your Go have your ears checked
Speaker 1: because and I'll tell you why. It is very low
Speaker 1: level and you're somewhat mumbling. But I know it's true
Speaker 1: if listen, if if I'm mumbling at the end of
Speaker 1: orm mumbling all the time. No, at this point, because
Speaker 1: I actually lower when I was. When I was doing it,
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, Oh, we gotta really lower
Speaker 1: this down. This is almost like not having any music
Speaker 1: at all, because this is so But um, if you
Speaker 1: if you go back and listen, you will see that
Speaker 1: I am correct. He's playing with his phone right now.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward. We've had a long history this this year,
Speaker 1: Jeff being very adamant about proving he's right about yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm the only time I the only time I
Speaker 1: get that way is when I know I'm right, you're
Speaker 1: right about semi on Rice's contract. I was close enough
Speaker 1: for government work. He used that twice today, that government
Speaker 1: for government work. Are you actually playing it? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna find it. I mean, seriously, it's this kind of
Speaker 1: we're going down the wormhole here if we're doing if
Speaker 1: we're on a podcast, playing a podcast, we're not going
Speaker 1: down a warm What does what does a wormhole mean?
Speaker 1: What does so? Yeah, lots of questions, and like I said,
Speaker 1: I appreciate at least one more right now that we
Speaker 1: can add for next week, and well we only well
Speaker 1: I guess, uh really does the only cover more shows
Speaker 1: like the show. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, one for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we do it after the last week.
Speaker 1: Well we could, Yeah, we'll see you kid talking about
Speaker 1: it awesome. Yeah, so maybe if we have questions, it's
Speaker 1: all on you, you the listener, and thanks the listening.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, okay, so thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any trouble hearing now, that's what I say.
Speaker 1: And so any way, they music post are you ready?
Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Mike dropped the mic which
Speaker 1: is actually his phone. All right, I think we disproved that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Bobby Munster l a season ticket holder, But thanks again
Speaker 1: for writing yes, and thanks for listening. Well there's more.
Speaker 1: There's actually a question here. Okay, I know this question. Well,
Speaker 1: we've predicated on which free agent we bring back, but
Speaker 1: which positions are the most glaring needs in the draft,
Speaker 1: assuming we lock up James with the franchise, DAG. I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you clarify that, because then if you don't,
Speaker 1: then everybody thinks we're saying that that's gonna happen. Continue.
Speaker 1: But also if James is not back, then your quarterback
Speaker 1: goes up your importance list right, I think we've answered
Speaker 1: this question. To be honest with you, I want to
Speaker 1: see a drafting offensive lineman in the first round for
Speaker 1: the first time since two thousand Wow, it's been that long. No,
Speaker 1: that's a lie. We did a two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: We drafted in two thousand six. That's a lie because
Speaker 1: you forgot about. What I meant to say is the
Speaker 1: first time we guys. When you said that, I think it. Wait, well, no,
Speaker 1: we haven't drafted an offensive tackle in the first round since.
Speaker 1: Can you a walker in two thousand play? I know,
Speaker 1: but you can't not do it again. Uh, Davin Joseph
Speaker 1: was a guard and we draft him in two thousand
Speaker 1: and six and worked. But that's the last offensive lineman
Speaker 1: we've taken in the first round. That's thirteen years ago. Fourteen.
Speaker 1: By the time the draft comes around, I think it's
Speaker 1: time now. Part of the reason for that is we
Speaker 1: happen to hit on Donald pin And and Damar Dotson,
Speaker 1: two undrafted guys who knewho ate up a lot of
Speaker 1: the starts between now and then, which is great. So
Speaker 1: and then you know, Donovan Smith wasn't a first round
Speaker 1: but he was pretty down close. I think he was
Speaker 1: like three picks into the second round some of that,
Speaker 1: but still I think it's time to add some talent
Speaker 1: to that otherwise. And it also depends on who we
Speaker 1: get back. As he said, um, edge rusher, if it's it.
Speaker 1: But it seems to be a good class this year
Speaker 1: for tackles, at least if you believe this guy of
Speaker 1: reports in the in the lists they're out now, So
Speaker 1: it seems to me we could get good value. Let's
Speaker 1: just say we're picking sixteenth right around there, would you
Speaker 1: say that's the most important position if you take the
Speaker 1: quarterback position out, you mean just in general or for
Speaker 1: us just for us? Uh? Offensive line? Yea offensive line,
Speaker 1: I think so out because I don't really I'm not
Speaker 1: a big proponent of first round running backs. I think
Speaker 1: we're good at receiver. Um, you know, I wouldn't take
Speaker 1: a tighten in the first round. Um. So on offense
Speaker 1: that unless you're and we're already so we're not doing quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So offensive line and the defense seems to be it's
Speaker 1: got a lot more young talent on it right now. Right,
Speaker 1: but you may need some defensive line, you know, front line,
Speaker 1: outside lane pickers or whatever. It's you know, it's funny,
Speaker 1: it's it's a hard team to get drafted to because
Speaker 1: there are so many young players on it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: done well so, but there's so many, you know, things
Speaker 1: that seem setting stone now two years from now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing is etched in stone other than whatever mind you're what,
Speaker 1: you're your grave stone. Yes, I was gonna say that
Speaker 1: it's Christmas Eve. We're doing Christmas pass. Well, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then we'll talk resurrection, all right, Scrooge, keep going, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: I got one more, all right, Scott and Jeff or
Speaker 1: Jeff and Scott, whichever you prefer, Yes, I prefer Jeff
Speaker 1: and Scott. But continue. I heard you guys giving justin
Speaker 1: watch and some grief for his celebration or lack thereof
Speaker 1: after his first NFL touchdown. Makes me think that I
Speaker 1: haven't seen a whole lot of really good celebrations from
Speaker 1: the Bucks this year. He's absolutely right. And an interesting
Speaker 1: note is, um Mike Evans was on Bucks Total Access
Speaker 1: last night and it's podcast, it's on on the site
Speaker 1: right now, and they were talking about celebrations and he
Speaker 1: was talking about that he's really upset that there's not
Speaker 1: much imagination in the celebration category, and that is something
Speaker 1: he wants to work on this year. On the offseason,
Speaker 1: he hit Justin Watson's was ridiculous. You know, he's like,
Speaker 1: He's like and heed. You know, he did it twice,
Speaker 1: so it's horrible. You know. So, um, his Mike likes
Speaker 1: to do boxing type of things. But he said that
Speaker 1: as a group, they're really horrible at it and they're
Speaker 1: gonna get better. So you can check that podcast out.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. And whatever you think of the team
Speaker 1: this year, they've scored a lot of touchdowns. That's we've
Speaker 1: had a lot of opportunities. What you're saying, you're saying.
Speaker 1: He's saying this. This writer didn't necessarily know that are
Speaker 1: put in here. But we've had fifty one, which is
Speaker 1: a team record. So I still got one game to play.
Speaker 1: So dogs, if you were to score an NFL touchdown,
Speaker 1: what would your celebration be? Thanks? If you get to this,
Speaker 1: Brian Smith, he puts no relation now, so we're not related.
Speaker 1: He thinks, at least we're taking over the world Bucks
Speaker 1: fans since the early nineties. He says, Wow, thanks, Maybe
Speaker 1: seeing White, I don't I don't know. I like the
Speaker 1: ones that are kind of clever and funny and look
Speaker 1: like a tamlow Like I'm sitting here thinking like I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe have a teammate crouched down and I
Speaker 1: sit on him. Like I'm a chair and I got
Speaker 1: a I got a book and a cup of tea
Speaker 1: and I'm reading a book and there's a fireplace in
Speaker 1: front of me. Maybe I'm more hands. Maybe some guys
Speaker 1: can stay in their neck, like if a pipe, or
Speaker 1: it could be something related to what's going. You could
Speaker 1: try to do Sama Santa, come down a chimney, maybe
Speaker 1: sling a bag or your shoulder, and I would I
Speaker 1: would think I'd have to, you know, get with everybody
Speaker 1: and think of you want to Yes, I want. I
Speaker 1: think those are the best. But there's enough rowing and
Speaker 1: stuff like that we need. We need, like I want
Speaker 1: to see scenes like tableaus, not just we're rolling or
Speaker 1: we're climbing, or maybe perhaps here's the here's the thought.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get with Mike, Mike Kevins and you can
Speaker 1: give some of your idea. I don't have a good
Speaker 1: one yet. I'm gonna have to think about that because
Speaker 1: he just did a pipe that was dumb. I was
Speaker 1: just trying to think of a scene in my head.
Speaker 1: I didn't prepare for this question like I should have.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking what I thought you? I thought you prepared, No,
Speaker 1: because where would you get. Well, I'm sitting in a chair,
Speaker 1: have a book, and yeah, I try to think of
Speaker 1: like a like just like a peaceful scene. And maybe
Speaker 1: you know I didn't say pipe at you guy, that's
Speaker 1: pretty but a little pocket figure what that was. I'm
Speaker 1: not a gifted mime or anything. Yeah, you don't see
Speaker 1: very many people smoking pipes anymore. Well, why would you,
Speaker 1: I understand, But it's just that, you know, it's the
Speaker 1: holiday spirit. I don't know for some reason. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can know what I think about that? What vaping? Yes,
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? I think people look
Speaker 1: so silly and there, you mean, like when they're in
Speaker 1: their car, and also the smoke comes billowing it. It's
Speaker 1: like a cheese and chog movie. To me, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be a teacher or anything. You know it.
Speaker 1: Cigarettes are terrible, obviously, and and a lot less you know,
Speaker 1: our generation, this generation now with a lot less smoking.
Speaker 1: But you're they're always people are gonna as a group,
Speaker 1: always gonna find something. But you know through the years
Speaker 1: that in movies and TV. They often add characters smoking
Speaker 1: and smoking is bad. But people thought it looked cool. Well,
Speaker 1: they made it. It shouldn't have. In the forties, it
Speaker 1: was you were a better person if you smile, it
Speaker 1: made you developed any better, stronger. Okay, so it just
Speaker 1: people thought it looked cool, which was dumb. But it
Speaker 1: was true. But not only is vaping just another form
Speaker 1: of smoking, I guess, but it just looks so dumb.
Speaker 1: The only reason why I brought up the pipe is
Speaker 1: I was googling Christmas music. Looks good, looks. I was
Speaker 1: googling Christmas music because I wanted to play some Christmas
Speaker 1: music in my office as I was working, and I
Speaker 1: just went, um, you know Christmas songs, and it popped
Speaker 1: up and then I went uh. And then I looked
Speaker 1: and there was a you know, old album covers and
Speaker 1: it was Bing Crosby with the pipes. It's the classic
Speaker 1: right Christmas. Yeah, And I was like, wow, you don't
Speaker 1: see you don't see other pipes. You know, something to
Speaker 1: think about, all right, I think, No, that's the last question,
Speaker 1: last one. Did we finish it? Yeah, we just we
Speaker 1: didn't have any great idea. Yeah, no, but we're but
Speaker 1: just so you know it's in the works, because even
Speaker 1: the players think that they have they're not very good
Speaker 1: with celebrations. Alright, finished that, All right, you got anything else?
Speaker 1: I'm done. We're going home. Tonight's Christmas. Christmas. I'm gonna go. Um.
Speaker 1: I think my wife probably got me a Ferrari, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have the big red bow. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: to take the big red bow. Where do those people live?
Speaker 1: I want to know where those people live. They come out,
Speaker 1: they've got to to two trucks and she wants to
Speaker 1: pick up, and I go, she wants the red one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, where do you people live? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: outside my tax If you know, the big red bows
Speaker 1: are a huge deal. Now four cars? You mean mean
Speaker 1: for people want those if they really are And there's
Speaker 1: obviously we're talking about a certain strata of income that
Speaker 1: would give their spouse. However, you could be a luxury
Speaker 1: vehicle without them knowing it. But you could also buy
Speaker 1: a family truckster and you could get a bow as
Speaker 1: a surprise. You could people it from that. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be the high end that you
Speaker 1: see the commercials on, but you could. People love the
Speaker 1: big red bow. I was I was watching something frost
Speaker 1: that the other day, and see, yeah, you could be
Speaker 1: buying your sixteen year old, your seventeen year old their
Speaker 1: first car. Where do you get a big red bow?
Speaker 1: I don't remember which. It was a luxury car do leadership,
Speaker 1: not dealership, but brand and and they were talking about
Speaker 1: this dealership where they say, people come in and they
Speaker 1: want the ball. Maybe it's Alexis. Aren't there a lot
Speaker 1: of Alexis commercials, BMW, Mercedes, all of those, so they
Speaker 1: want Santa Claus drives the Mercedes. That's the commercial where
Speaker 1: the kid takes a picture of Santa Claus and black
Speaker 1: bells him and then the dad goes, well, yeah, has
Speaker 1: been good. He get sitting in the car. I love
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Alight, all right, are we coming back
Speaker 1: next week? I think we probably are. Remember how somebody
Speaker 1: asked us they players will be gone, so we won't
Speaker 1: have a player guest, right, how somebody asked us if
Speaker 1: we could have Casey Phillips on them, maybe we can
Speaker 1: get her. All right, we'll see anything else. That's it.
Speaker 1: All right, Merry Christmas, right, Merry Christmas? Since you did, oh,
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. The all too since you did. Thanks for
Speaker 1: this