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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on esp

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura,

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Speaker 1: So live on a Tuesday ed the show of the program.

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Speaker 1: How would we describe the weather today? It's comfortable, But

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Speaker 1: in terms of what would be your normal? What type

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Speaker 1: of year, what time of year would this normally be?

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Speaker 1: Like this? I was gonna answer my question spring warfall

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Speaker 1: one of the two. I would say its late October.

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Speaker 1: We get sun for late October, and we get sun

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Speaker 1: occasionally you get that day where it's like seventy degrees

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Speaker 1: and everything's great. It feels like an early late May,

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Speaker 1: early June. I like, I like him May. It feels

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Speaker 1: like May to me, like a little storm. See right,

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Speaker 1: it's no sun and it's there's some humidity, a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of of of dampness in

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Speaker 1: the air, a little bit. It must have been a

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Speaker 1: hell of a storm on your side of town, Gibbe,

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Speaker 1: did it not storm on your side? It did, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like this. It didn't you know there weren't

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Speaker 1: you know former Calves players houses getting struck by lightning

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Speaker 1: in Westlake. We didn't have that. It was NonStop lightning

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Speaker 1: for about two and a half hours. Come on, it

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Speaker 1: was down. I was downtown. I was a Monday night

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Speaker 1: Rossie and good friend of the show, the miss Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the invite. Would you have like to have come?

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Speaker 1: I would have loved to the boy would have loved

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Speaker 1: to have. So I'm hanging out with the boy. Would

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Speaker 1: have loved to have I would have come with you.

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Speaker 1: We've done. We actually watched a little of it last night,

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Speaker 1: a little of the rock. Yeah, we para trooped in.

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Speaker 1: We paratrooped in though it was right it like it

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Speaker 1: was a tag team women's match when we jumped in,

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Speaker 1: and did you stay through for did you see like

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Speaker 1: the U S title Bobby Lashly and Champa. We didn't

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Speaker 1: get that far. We didn't get that far. So we

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Speaker 1: were in there for fifteen minutes. And then I didn't

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Speaker 1: want him to also be aware that it was in town.

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Speaker 1: I had forgotten it was. I remember you telling me

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Speaker 1: something about it in August, but I or that it

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Speaker 1: was coming. Um, but I did not, in fact, in

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Speaker 1: watching it less until you said it, I did not

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Speaker 1: was not aware that it actually wasn't that it wasn't Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: It was good. It was a good time. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you missed it. You didn't lose electricity there and there

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Speaker 1: was in the building. I did have to get from

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Speaker 1: the Harry Buffalo to the arena, which is not far.

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Speaker 1: But a good hunter can be a drowned wrap. But

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Speaker 1: I'd call it a good two hundred yards in an

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Speaker 1: absolute deluge. And it was seven eight months. It was

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Speaker 1: seven fifty. We had waited it out. We got off

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Speaker 1: our trustee app said till nine. You're not avoiding this.

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Speaker 1: So we all made the decision. Then we got to

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Speaker 1: the door, Me and Stay and Zone Bones and the

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Speaker 1: big Daddy Scottie, and we were Jake the Barbarian was

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Speaker 1: with us as well, which is a great, great guy,

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Speaker 1: Jake the Barbarian, that's one big dude. I like, you

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Speaker 1: will name, you will give a nickname. I didn't give this.

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Speaker 1: This was whatever I walked into it. I don't have

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Speaker 1: a single person that I socialized with who has a nickname.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like every person you do does. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the name. Yeah. Yeah, So I admire it. I

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Speaker 1: wish I was more creative. I don't know everything. Everybody

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Speaker 1: and I can't. Are you responsible for the nicknames in

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Speaker 1: many cases? Yeah, like my circle? Yeah yeah, so you've

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Speaker 1: doled out the nicknames. Do they to refer to themselves

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Speaker 1: a nickname that you've bestowed? I mean most people then, yeah,

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Speaker 1: usually catches on pretty well, like everybody. You're a renaissance man.

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Speaker 1: I haven't have like nicknames that go into like into

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Speaker 1: the whole family, like my buddy Grant Davis G. Diz

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Speaker 1: and then his wife's eld is son trace T Dizzel,

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Speaker 1: all the way through, right through right through the family. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: there are he said his new six running. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's a speed that he operates. That said, that's true

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Speaker 1: I kind of stayed right with Bryce and then let

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Speaker 1: exactly a brisk pace that we were cutting. But what

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Speaker 1: was important for me was I felt that that knowledge

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Speaker 1: Get like I did the you know, the geometry of it.

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Speaker 1: But I got in there and it was it was great,

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Speaker 1: You needed mud boots. I was shocked, and then I thought,

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Speaker 1: which is appropriate. But I just thought it would have

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Speaker 1: absolutely muddy when I take my kids over there. Um,

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Speaker 1: by the way, my mom, the official nana, is very

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Speaker 1: concerned about your hat and is offered to She's got

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Speaker 1: I'll bring it in. I don't know how. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what. She knows that you try to bleach it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done that yet. I was at football practice

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Speaker 1: I did you know the tied pen white stuff? You know?

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Speaker 1: I tried that and I watched it and it didn't

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Speaker 1: It was unfazed by that. The die from the orange

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Speaker 1: hat has so taken over as if they had itself.

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Speaker 1: I just never would have thought that it would have

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Speaker 1: color run. Actually, he says, he took a fiber class

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Speaker 1: in college. I'm not sure what that means if you

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Speaker 1: got that on your resume. Fiber class in college class.

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Speaker 1: Let me get a picture of that stuff. And how

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Speaker 1: should we do it? Should we do? May ask you Russian?

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Speaker 1: Should we do the Nana effort first? Or the janko

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Speaker 1: or the janko? I mean, I think Nana would really enjoy.

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Speaker 1: She wants to she wants to be of service. She

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Speaker 1: would enjoy the opportunity to solve this for you. Well,

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Speaker 1: I see you tomorrow, and then will you see Nana

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Speaker 1: tomorrow or does this need to wait till monday. You

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Speaker 1: will see me tomorrow, but you will not see Nana.

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Speaker 1: Probably you're probably staying here. Right. You give it to

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Speaker 1: Jay and give it. I can give it to Kayla,

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Speaker 1: all right. I will bring it tomorrow. I'll bring the

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Speaker 1: not sure if it will work for him, but if

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Speaker 1: you use bleach, it's just gonna lighten and change the color,

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Speaker 1: but not make it white. Um, Nana's got another idea, though.

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Speaker 1: Nana feels she feels strongly about her ideas. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, I'm not going to have no reason to

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Speaker 1: doubt her at all. There's a lot of press for us.

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Speaker 1: She just said, don't forget to let Bo know that

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Speaker 1: I'd be happy to try to salvage his hat. She

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Speaker 1: feels very good about She's got goof off. She says

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Speaker 1: that I look for an effort of But and I

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Speaker 1: my life are the ones that can get a stain out,

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Speaker 1: get stuff sorted out? Maybe they really can, Like my

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Speaker 1: some comes back and it looks brand new. Boy, I'm

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Speaker 1: doing stuff with oil stains because I cook with a

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Speaker 1: lot of olive oil. Same and and then that splatters.

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Speaker 1: sometimes I get some oil burns. Yeah, you get a

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Speaker 1: little and then little spots get on. You know, hey,

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Speaker 1: what happened? Lose the hair on your um. That sorts

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Speaker 1: itself out. So the players will be here today and

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Speaker 1: be I was gonna say, how much does it ultimately

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Speaker 1: hurt them because the Big Ten Network would have those

429
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Speaker 1: three or four additional channels where you could watch the

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Speaker 1: other Big Ten Network games. Like the other part of

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Speaker 1: it is is, as you guys know, the ESPN Plus

432
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Speaker 1: app is really easy to navigate. I mean, it's really

433
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Speaker 1: easy to see all the games that are there, hit

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Speaker 1: a live game in a way you go. You can

435
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Speaker 1: kind of almost channel surf a little bit, which is

436
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Speaker 1: something I really like to do while watching college basketball,

437
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Speaker 1: which isn't something you can do in the other streaming services.

438
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Speaker 1: So they've got to get in order there, like they

439
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Speaker 1: almost have to treat these network partners, and I think

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Speaker 1: Fox doesn't okay job. CBS will do an excellent job

441
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Speaker 1: at three thirty. They've proven that, and I think NBC

442
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Speaker 1: will do good at night. Um, but they really need

443
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Speaker 1: the other games, the other ancillary games that are gonna

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Speaker 1: be on. They're gonna have to have a standard because

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Speaker 1: some of these FS one CBS sports games from a

446
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Speaker 1: production standpoint from it, it's tough. It's a tough watch.

447
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Speaker 1: So they've got to get that stuff sorted out too. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite things in camp where

449
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Speaker 1: you line up the kids and the guys went through it.

450
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Speaker 1: I love this and Whytt Teller has been having a

451
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Speaker 1: blast out here at camp interacting with the fans. And

452
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Speaker 1: he gave those kids, got down and high five everybody

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Speaker 1: as he went through the little tunnel. Who's who's out

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Speaker 1: there today? Give me one second? We got the we

455
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Speaker 1: have teams. It looks like some youth teams out there.

456
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Speaker 1: Some m I thought you were about to tell us

457
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Speaker 1: every player that was on the field. It was gonna

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Speaker 1: be really impressed if you were pulling that jot. If

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have you if you had Zyr Mitchell Payton

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Speaker 1: and Leavert Hill the second at the ready just by

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Speaker 1: looking at their numbers, would be really trusted with you.

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Speaker 1: I am. I was a little angry. I had to

463
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Speaker 1: have a conversation with one of my favorite PR people

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, when are we doing the pronunciations because Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: Patton or Peyton I know I did not know this,

466
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I need a little assistance here. Don't

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Speaker 1: do you do that? Do you? I voiced them Once

468
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Speaker 1: they give them to me, they can you allstate them correct?

469
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Speaker 1: They come to us with it should be on that

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Speaker 1: is in it on that unofficial depth chart or no,

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Speaker 1: no it wasn't. How would you, guys, grade how would

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Speaker 1: you grade your ability to see a name on a

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Speaker 1: piece of paper and then correctly guess how it's pronounced?

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Speaker 1: Mostly good? Yelleda fro holt, though I was not prepared

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Speaker 1: for yelleda to be come out was going to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm about like if you looked at if

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Speaker 1: you looked at and let me pulled us up real quick,

478
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Speaker 1: but if you looked at the following, by the way,

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Speaker 1: shout out Lakewood Catholic Academy and gain elite for today,

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Speaker 1: all right, what what do you if you look down

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Speaker 1: on a piece of paper and you see eight. Let

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Speaker 1: me let me just look at it. Let me just

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Speaker 1: look at it. He's a right here, Oh no chance.

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Speaker 1: I would probably have gone yelta, So you're close Yelda.

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Speaker 1: Well it's Yelda. I mean either would have assumed the

486
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Speaker 1: age is silent, much like imposthumous. So I would have

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Speaker 1: would thrown a y on it. Nordic would be a

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Speaker 1: yelte froholt is how I would have gone. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: then you're you would have been I think you would

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Speaker 1: have gotten. I think that's a passing grade for you.

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Speaker 1: I meant Yelda, I had yelta. That's what lay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's tough. I mean it's a hardy is it a

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Speaker 1: soft a? There's a lot of possibilities there. Our raster

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Speaker 1: is pretty good though for the most part. Right, you're

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Speaker 1: right paid in padding that. I don't know. It's my

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Speaker 1: kid's name. How did they spell it? P A D N? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that last name or first last? It's a third

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Speaker 1: name coming off? Oh geez, yeah that could be. What

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Speaker 1: do you think coach Kevin Spans get the podium. Let's

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Speaker 1: ever listen. Okay, good to see everybody. Another good day today.

501
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Speaker 1: We'll still be in training camp mode. I know that

502
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Speaker 1: it's game week. We had a game on Friday night,

503
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Speaker 1: but we'll treat today as truly a training camp day.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll spend some more time on Jacksonville. Will uh

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Speaker 1: practice a little bit earlier tomorrow afternoon, get on the airplane,

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Speaker 1: get down to Jacksonville tomorrow night. So looking forward to

507
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Speaker 1: a really good day today. Uh And with that, I'll

508
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Speaker 1: take any questions. You know what the planning quarterback is

509
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Speaker 1: for Friday yet I do. I haven't shared it with

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Speaker 1: the team yet, so I'll wait on announcing that. But

511
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Speaker 1: we have we have a framework, Jacob of how we're

512
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Speaker 1: gonna handle this preseason. As you know, you always reserve

513
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Speaker 1: the right to change your mind based on you know,

514
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Speaker 1: how practice goes and those type of things. But we

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Speaker 1: were pretty confident in the plan. We have the throw. Yes,

516
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Speaker 1: not right now, Markay, but I will at some point

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Speaker 1: if you uh go with this, You've gotten your starting

518
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Speaker 1: about offensive wine something faces would you start your first

519
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Speaker 1: offensive line if you want played to show up? I

520
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Speaker 1: think I would tell you it kind of remains me

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Speaker 1: seeing Jeff, But I'll have those type of conversations later

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Speaker 1: in the week. We won't get to speak to you.

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Speaker 1: You know, darnbably I didn't know that. I'll let you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you guys know. Not keeping a secret. I

525
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Speaker 1: just want to make sure I tell the team first dress.

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Speaker 1: What did you mean? Yeah? You know, Mary Kay. Just

527
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Speaker 1: like last time, I don't really want to get into

528
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Speaker 1: those type of things. I just I feel like those

529
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Speaker 1: are internal. Those are between myself and the players, and

530
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Speaker 1: this team and the players, and that's how we'll handle

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Speaker 1: those type of things. Like I told you guys yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I have a ton of respect for Kareem as a

533
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Speaker 1: person um and he's a really good football player can

534
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Speaker 1: make the internal all. Are you at least comfortable where

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Speaker 1: the relationship in situation is. Yeah, again, I'm not gonna

536
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Speaker 1: make um comment on those type of things. Your plan

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Speaker 1: be similar till last year with the way you use

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Speaker 1: starters in preseason games. I know you said amount of

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Speaker 1: big mores compla. Yeah, I think it will be similar,

540
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Speaker 1: but I think you have to make decisions based on

541
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Speaker 1: your team, and every year things are different. I think

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Speaker 1: the one thing of note is we have Philly coming

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Speaker 1: in week two to practice versus them. I do think

544
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Speaker 1: that's a great opportunity to get two really good days

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Speaker 1: of work in a controlled setting where you don't have

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Speaker 1: to play your starters as much in that week to

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Speaker 1: per se, I do think week three we still treat

548
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Speaker 1: as a dress rehearsal, so to speak. So, uh, is

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Speaker 1: it exactly the same plan as last year? No, just

550
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Speaker 1: is it's not the same team. But but I do

551
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Speaker 1: believe that week two practices make it important or make

552
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Speaker 1: it allow you, uh to maybe not play guys in

553
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Speaker 1: that second game as much. With the third preseason games

554
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Speaker 1: still mean that dressed for person and there's no fourth

555
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Speaker 1: preseason game where you get to look at guys that

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Speaker 1: are on the back end where you have to make

557
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Speaker 1: those different, full prosper decisions. Do you kind of maybe

558
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Speaker 1: flip the script a little and really book at those

559
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Speaker 1: back end guys in the first and second preseason games now,

560
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Speaker 1: because potentially, yeah, I don't. I think you're right there,

561
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Speaker 1: al and that you don't have that fourth game, So

562
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Speaker 1: you gotta find opportunities for those guys because you really

563
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: do want to make some or not want to. We're

564
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Speaker 1: gonna have to make some tough decisions, and I want

565
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Speaker 1: to give those guys a fair shake so they get

566
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Speaker 1: reps out here. As you know, they don't get a

567
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Speaker 1: ton of raps reps when you're talking about the threes. Uh,

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Speaker 1: So I want to give everybody a fair shake. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: I know we've talked about the playing and endiva. I've

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Speaker 1: better wal did the starting quill the back time to

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Speaker 1: the starting out in the out there too. I'd say

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Speaker 1: it depends, you know, it depends on who your players

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Speaker 1: are in those scenarios. I don't know even playing for Jacoby.

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Speaker 1: Get Jacoby ready, Um, the fact that he hasn't taken

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Speaker 1: a lot of first time rather so far, would that

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Speaker 1: lead to him maybe playing more in the preseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm confident in our plan Scott obviously. Uh

578
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Speaker 1: Like I've told you guys that will adjust based on information. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm really comfortable in what Jacoby has done to date

580
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Speaker 1: with his reps. He's gotten a lot of them. He's

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Speaker 1: gotten some with the ones, some with the two's um

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Speaker 1: and we'll stick to our plan absent any new information.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen someone I haven't play an it's emotional,

584
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Speaker 1: I might have a certain paction something are you you know,

585
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Speaker 1: whatever come back instant. So I would just tell you,

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Speaker 1: not specific to what you're saying Mary, Kay, but with

587
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: all of our guys, we're all human. We got ninety

588
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: guys in this roster and all these coaches, we're all human.

589
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: We all are dealing with things outside of this building.

590
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Speaker 1: So I'm respectful of that with all of our guys,

591
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: and I think you've gotta meet everybody where they are.

592
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Speaker 1: In that moment, we decided if do you know, David

593
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Speaker 1: Bell and anthy Words will be able to play friend

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Speaker 1: and it we've talked about at Scott. I'm not. I

595
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: haven't made a decision yet. I do think it's important

596
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Speaker 1: that we get our guys good reps both here in

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00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: practice and in the games if if that's what they need.

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Speaker 1: But those two guys in particular, I'll wait to make

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Speaker 1: a decision on them. In the back. Not a lot yet,

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Speaker 1: to be fair. You know, just a couple of ten

601
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Speaker 1: team plays or so the last time we're out here.

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Speaker 1: So that's just gonna be a matter of adding more

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00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: reps to what they're doing. Um, you have to really

604
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: intelligent football players. Uh. The guys that I do want

605
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: to see more of obviously, but gotta be mindful of

606
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: their coming off injury. Harry and Artfrey came in here

607
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: with just a lot of energy after the draft and

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Speaker 1: that um he seems. And we talked to him today

609
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Speaker 1: and he talked about the same night, energy for the

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Speaker 1: field when he's out there. Just what have you observed

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Speaker 1: from him? I know he had that virtual sack the

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Speaker 1: other day in that two minutes rill, but just what

613
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Speaker 1: have you seen from him? I like the virtual sac

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00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: there were other sacks and that's two minute drill to

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Speaker 1: the And since you brought it up, you know, I

616
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: told the defensive line, I'm gonna let them play. They're

617
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna be sacks here, but I'm gonna let you play.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes it could be misleading when the offense moves

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Speaker 1: the ball down the field in a two minute when

620
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Speaker 1: likely would have been sacked. Harry On, as you guys know,

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Speaker 1: full of life, full of energy, full of personality. I

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Speaker 1: do think he understands that this is his job. He's

623
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Speaker 1: a professional, he's a young player. So we're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: him along like we do with young players, and mentor

625
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: him both from the coaches and the UH veterans on

626
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Speaker 1: this team. But I do think he gets this seriousness

627
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: of this and that he's got to work at his craft.

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Speaker 1: Good to have as you bring these guys down because

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Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit of that, Mary Kay.

630
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Speaker 1: I was with the Vikings for a bunch of years

631
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Speaker 1: where we went to man Cato all the time, which

632
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: was an hour fifteen down the road, and I think

633
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: there was something to that collegial element of being together.

634
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Speaker 1: We were gonna go on on. I wanted to do

635
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Speaker 1: this regardless of where we were going. It didn't matter

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Speaker 1: where we're going. I wanted to kind of do a

637
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Speaker 1: two day trip and get some things done. So, uh, fortunately,

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Speaker 1: I think I think we have a good plan. I

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Speaker 1: can't because again it's a secret to the team. You know,

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Speaker 1: I haven't told them about it, so I can't tell

641
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Speaker 1: you yet to leave the hotel. Yes, yes, you see.

642
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Speaker 1: Will you be on their tony a stakeout waiting for reutleave. Yeah,

643
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Speaker 1: we'll be, Uh, we'll be doing some team activities. About Jet,

644
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: he said he played about if he leveled while he

645
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: was playing throughout ancle injury. Surely ended that that's a scold,

646
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: points staff the players. Well, I'll take Jet at his word. Uh,

647
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Speaker 1: you know, if that's how he felt. Um, but I

648
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: do think going back to that those moments a young

649
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: player battling through injuries UH and still playing, I thought

650
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Speaker 1: at a pretty high level. I think says a lot

651
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Speaker 1: about him and and and that in turn his teammates

652
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: see that. So I do think that's important, um, because

653
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: you never feel a percent in this game. You just don't.

654
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: You battle through some nix and bruises and and and

655
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: those type of things. Now, when you're injured injured, I

656
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Speaker 1: get that part. But to see a guy pushed through

657
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Speaker 1: uh and and perform, I thought at a at a

658
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Speaker 1: high level, was impressed. Now does he want to get better? Yes,

659
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: and obviously being healthy allows him to do that. He

660
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Speaker 1: Gabinet argue what he said about that, carry it a long,

661
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Speaker 1: But what is he's filming you on the field showing

662
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Speaker 1: you a urban since it's died at camp. Yeah, he's

663
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: working really hard, Jefferman, I go back to we we

664
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: got had him for nine weeks in the off season, UH,

665
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: and he made strides there as he learned about our

666
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Speaker 1: system and how we play. And then we brought the

667
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Speaker 1: rookies in four days early, so it made strides there.

668
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Speaker 1: And then even now I think you'll find him out

669
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Speaker 1: here early with the coaches working on his craft, all

670
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Speaker 1: the young guys. They just need time to work on

671
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Speaker 1: their craft. That there's no secret, there's no shortcut to

672
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Speaker 1: this thing. And that's like kind of filatching miles and

673
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Speaker 1: a lot of these ch seemed like they've maybe latched

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Speaker 1: on to a better and I guess, just like, how

675
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Speaker 1: important is that to building team cabin striking out These

676
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: younger guys are building to these older guys, and yeah,

677
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: I think, actually, I think it works both ways. I

678
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: think we have veterans that are willing to work with

679
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Speaker 1: young guys, and obviously the young guys are are listening

680
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Speaker 1: and taking what these older players say to heart. And

681
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Speaker 1: id I think that's part of being a really good

682
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: team is bringing your rookies along because the truth is

683
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you're gonna need your rookies and and

684
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna play earlier. And that's certainly been the case

685
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: for us the last couple of years. So we want

686
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Speaker 1: to bring our guys along as quickly as we can.

687
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Speaker 1: When you look at j Okay and Jacob and Anthony

688
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: Walker said he's got speed, to um, how important is

689
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Speaker 1: it for you to have guys that run like they do? Yeah,

690
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: team speeds a big deal when it comes to our defense.

691
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Speaker 1: It's one of the principles of built of this defense

692
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: that Andrews built. We want guys that are able to

693
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: run sideline to sideline and guys are able with their

694
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Speaker 1: length to defend some of the unique offensive attacks that

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Speaker 1: you get in the modern day and ageminism created perhaps

696
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Speaker 1: in the midst of the team exercises that you guys

697
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Speaker 1: might have news run longer than six games. Is that

698
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Speaker 1: I think you know me well enough, Mary kay where

699
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Speaker 1: we're just dealing with today. I I don't know any

700
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Speaker 1: other way to do it, and I think the team

701
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: understands that as well. Okay, thanks guys, Thanks, thanks there,

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Speaker 1: you have a coach Kevin's fancy at the podium. We

703
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Speaker 1: will react to some of the things we heard or

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Speaker 1: expert at it. There was a lot thrown at him,

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Speaker 1: and you don't really get a whole lot. There's we

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Speaker 1: have no idea, no idea what the plan was. Even

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Speaker 1: alluded to it at one point. It's pretty tocking cheek.

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Speaker 1: I think, Jake, as you realized we're not going to

726
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Speaker 1: be able to talk to you again between now and

727
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Speaker 1: the game, and he said, oh darn, darn, shucks, I

728
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Speaker 1: didn't realize that right for for one of the piece

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Speaker 1: is prepared, isn't it so? Um yeah, the schedule of

730
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Speaker 1: it all that was as we expected. I gave there

731
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Speaker 1: was a glimmer of hope that perhaps and when we

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Speaker 1: get up to thirty three percent, maybe that you'd get something. No, nay,

733
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Speaker 1: and that's uh, that's where it is as expected that

734
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Speaker 1: you were you just weren't. He's again, it's not for

735
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: competitive reasons. And I said, he hasn't told the team,

736
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: so I'm sure they will find out soon. Thank you.

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00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: You fly tomorrow night, right, so you'll have a training

738
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: camp practice today and then tomorrow will be like a

739
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: pregame practice because Thursday there will be some sort of

740
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: top secret team activity that will take place Thursday. Apparently

741
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: we heard we might get a steak out Tony and

742
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Speaker 1: GROSSI steakouts. He's gonna steak to give it to a

743
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Speaker 1: steak out on that? Did you see him with like

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Speaker 1: some banocks like yes, of course I can have like

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Speaker 1: a shrub. I like yeah, yeah, you can check it

746
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Speaker 1: out between a vision of So yeah, there there you go.

747
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Speaker 1: Who knows. I guess it'll make Friday interesting, it will.

748
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Speaker 1: I mean, look what we talked about, and I think

749
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Speaker 1: he alluded to something interesting about if One of the

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Speaker 1: things that actually was talked about that interested me anyway

751
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: was what he talked about with Week two with Philly

752
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: coming in here, and you know the fact of the

753
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: matter is, as we sit here right now, it is

754
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Speaker 1: and there's some legal experts who think it is it's

755
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: possible that an appeal would allow to Shawn to play

756
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Week one. Most that I've talked to and I know

757
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: you've talked to it would say nay, that the six

758
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: games is locked in. It would just be an appeal

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Speaker 1: of what's above that that Jacoby Pricett's got to play

760
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Speaker 1: Week one and you need to get him as many

761
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: reps as possible. And I just wonder if you know

762
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: that week in Philly, maybe he gets the vast majority

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Speaker 1: of the reps against Philly and control because look, I'll

764
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you right now, and you can't avoid injuries,

765
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Speaker 1: but we cannot afford to have an injury to Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Pricett prior to the noting of this football season. So

767
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: now at this keep protecting him is almost more important

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00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: right now than it is too. I think he's as

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Speaker 1: valuable as anybody on the team right now. Yeah, truly, yes,

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Speaker 1: based on the way you know you read it and

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Speaker 1: and every same that you know week seven at the earliest,

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Speaker 1: and that's not likely, so and so we know that's

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Speaker 1: not how it's gonna go. So it'll be further along.

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Speaker 1: And right now it's Jacoby Brissette and or bust and

775
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: so you have to keep him upright and and in

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Speaker 1: the right spot. And those those team practices you you

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Speaker 1: were quickly you pointed this out a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: It's a good job out of you that you could

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Speaker 1: have saw a scenario. And this is before we knew

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Speaker 1: with the suspension would be for de Shaun, and we

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Speaker 1: still don't um that that the likelihood of maybe Deshaun

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Speaker 1: plays the preseason games, Brissette gets those England the Philly practices,

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Speaker 1: um would be for him, and maybe that is the

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Speaker 1: way that it goes. These are not scores, obviously, no no,

785
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Speaker 1: I think, but just occurred. There are no scores. It's

786
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Speaker 1: just kind of trying to connect the dots from being

787
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Speaker 1: around things for a while. And that would seem to

788
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. And so here's another thing

789
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Speaker 1: to think about it. And it's such a delicate balance, right,

790
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: but you know, the Rams played nobody. They're the defending

791
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl chimp. That doesn't mean playing nobody guarantees you

792
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Speaker 1: a super Bowl. It's not positive, but it is saying

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Speaker 1: that you can do that. I would also point out

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Speaker 1: that the forty Niners and the Chiefs last year both

795
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: started three and three and both made their conference championship games,

796
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Speaker 1: both had a chance advanced to the Super Bowl. That

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00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: it's now at a seventeen game. It is it is

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Speaker 1: a marathon, it is not a sprint, and you know,

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Speaker 1: a fast start is obviously very helpful, it is not

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Speaker 1: necessary to success, and you can't be O and six

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Speaker 1: that would probably make it very, very difficult, but that

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Speaker 1: hopefully you get enough good work and say these safe

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Speaker 1: environments that you're not exposing people to injury in games

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Speaker 1: that ultimately do not matter. And I think that is

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that scares everybody. That's the thing that's

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Speaker 1: difficult for everybody get their head around and to figure

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Speaker 1: out exactly how to handle that situation and what they're

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Speaker 1: going to do when it does come to the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of a challenge for

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Speaker 1: teams to get their heads around and the comfort with it.

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Speaker 1: But I think those joint practices are such a good

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Speaker 1: thing for the Browns and four teams around the league

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Speaker 1: that you know, you almost treat that you have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get more situational and important work done in

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Speaker 1: a safe environment. And those joint says, then you could

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Speaker 1: in a preseason it's not a guarantee in a preseason

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Speaker 1: game you're gonna get to run a two minute drill.

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Speaker 1: It's not a guarantee in a preseason game that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into the red zone. Like it's not just

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Speaker 1: automatic where they say, yeah, you get to go have

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Speaker 1: a couple series here in the red zone. So though

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Speaker 1: that that week I think will be where the Browns

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Speaker 1: are able to get their best work. How they choose

824
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Speaker 1: to divvy that work up is we'll be interesting. And

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Speaker 1: I would expect that long before that will have an

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Speaker 1: idea on what the deal is, you know, with the

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Speaker 1: is another appeal after that, we'll find that out at

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Speaker 1: some point out guess very good. So most of our

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Speaker 1: team out there getting a little bit of warm up

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Speaker 1: before they get into individual work and uh and we'll

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on everything that we see here out

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Speaker 1: camp day. On a Tuesday back outside at the c

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Speaker 1: c MC. Prior to today's practice, Nathan had a chat

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Speaker 1: with our left tackle Jedrick will Let's have a lesson.

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Speaker 1: Lets it going? Yeah, good? Are you did? I would

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Speaker 1: just say, evaluate what Joe Thomas has been doing with you,

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Speaker 1: you know that official with might be Oh, it's been

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Speaker 1: really good. He's been coming down to open us like

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Speaker 1: Jack's campon was every day him and close colling that

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Speaker 1: you kind of building little session. We can come and

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Speaker 1: show us a copid name for some technique with you.

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Speaker 1: So just been very beneficial. Jen, you feel like you've

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Speaker 1: got that angle intree that first game last year. Just

851
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: hold you back. It's a lot last scenes that are

852
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: are Yeah. I would say through the first probably three

853
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: to four weeks until I got that two game mother

854
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: like diffcent um, I plent office liners just wasn't get

855
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: helpful at all as loud as you're not going to

856
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: Arrowhead this year? Yeah, that places courage to two games

857
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: that are places curaged. How much you can play on

858
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: Friday night? You know? Yet I'm not sure they haven't

859
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: told us any thing. How much would you like to

860
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: play in I'm going whatever, go or whatever? Do you

861
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: feel just even actually emotionally this year than you did

862
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: last year? With everything that work, I feel a lot better.

863
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Last year was a struggle. It wasn't It wasn't a secret.

864
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Everybody knew that playing the interest is one of the

865
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: hardest things you can do as a player. So I'm

866
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: excited for this year talking about that. Yet you made

867
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: a problem, you know, But do you feel like there's

868
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: a big year for you to like prove some things? Yeah?

869
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: Definitely get turned around here for me, Did that tough

870
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: year resultant from way you change your off season at all? No,

871
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: not at all. Just mantra I was healthy and continue

872
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: training and usual. Is it tough to have though you're

873
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: struggles coming about part of the world. I mean, you know,

874
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: we play in front of millions of fans on on TV,

875
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: so it's there's no there's no hiding it. I mean,

876
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: I got hurt and continue to got hurt throughout the

877
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: games that I was playing in. But I'm healthy now

878
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: and us so matters. So why did why did you

879
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: play through that thing? That really we we had some

880
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: troubles in my position. I was the only person I

881
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: was hurt, and there was some other guys that are

882
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: behind me that were hurt as well. Um, so I

883
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: was able to at least be out there and then

884
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: put form my effort and left. Yeah, so you know,

885
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: are you aware that Backton is probably out for the

886
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: season with you know, the serious injury, and if so,

887
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: just that lend any perspective to you know, maybe what

888
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: you went through, right, Yeah, I actually heard about that

889
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: just a couple minutes before I came out here. Um,

890
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: it's heartbreak. I know he was having a tough time

891
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: last year and I was with him a little bit

892
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: this offseason. He was rehabbing really hard, you know, trying

893
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: to get back. So it sucks and well, prayers won't

894
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: wishes to him. Hope he gets better soon. But it's

895
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: definitely tough. So where were you together working out in

896
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: the offseason Destination Dallas with Duke Mayweather many other Do

897
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: you think he scored points in the longer room playing. Oh,

898
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean yes, and I mean those guys know that

899
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: I'll be there for them anytime I can be. Um,

900
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: there was more of a statement point to myself and

901
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get up until until I wasn't

902
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: able to perform. I was gonna try to perform. So

903
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of the coach that's really just a different

904
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: We all pre stuff me. So who kind of helped you?

905
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: It seemed like Whyett teller um has taken me under

906
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: his wing a little bit, but and in writing to

907
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: work out with us stuff like that. But who kind

908
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: of helped you through the rough emotional time last year

909
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: where it just wasn't what he hoped it would be. Um,

910
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: I mean it was really tough. I was in those

911
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: guys with the meeting room um every day, and then

912
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: they were going out to practice and I was rehabbing.

913
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: So there was a there was a point of time

914
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: where for a couple of weeks, Man, I don't know

915
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: exactly how long it was, but I didn't even get

916
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: to practice. So they all were there for me, you know,

917
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: we got out to the game. They were made sure

918
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: that they were helping me and keep me up today

919
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: with things that were that were going on on the

920
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: film when I wasn't allowed to be out there. So

921
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: really all five I'll sit how many people we had

922
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: active that week? Was was helping me. So in his

923
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: career here, you know, Joe Thomas played through a lot

924
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: of injuries. UM, just what is he shared with you

925
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: about those experiences and how he was able to still

926
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: be successful playing for those that you've been able to

927
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of clean and maybe implement or you know, say

928
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: to yourself, hey, I can do that. Um, it's pretty

929
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: much the same for almost every offensive linement. I mean,

930
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: some injuries are worse than others. You can have upper

931
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: body or lower body, but it just depends. But there's

932
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: a lot of things that every offensive lilement goes through.

933
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: You hurt your fingers or your risk your hands. So

934
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: he was just playing through that, being tough, making sure

935
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: that you try to get these heal things you can

936
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: be for the next week and just continue to fight

937
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: through it. Because Joe taught you anything this last couple

938
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: of weeks that you didn't know before just from him

939
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: being out here with UM, it's a lot of a

940
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: lot of technical things, just really small minor tweaks in

941
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: your game that will help, um, But please continue to

942
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: work with us and hope you come here some more

943
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: and so we can kind of get some more of

944
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: those things implemented. What else did you do to deal

945
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: with a rough season? Me? Did you do anything or

946
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: do you have any other support systems or techniques or

947
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: strategies years to get through that heavy tape? Jobs and

948
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: a lot of prayers. It's about its built built kids.

949
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Such a technician, what what is he broke them down

950
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: your season? And what what kind of advice or coaching

951
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: getting give you for for this year? Yeah? Um, there's

952
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: always gonna be some some minor changes in our technique,

953
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: just depending on the scheme and we have to shine now.

954
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: So you have the different players at every minute, but

955
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: really just the same things. He had the same coaching

956
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: style that he's hal forever. So we're tend to keep

957
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: in that great system right now? Does he get your

958
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: face off? Hit my face? He saved up for why

959
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: most of the time? But what is like blocking for

960
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: just Sean? Uh? Different? How's it differently than blocking for Baker? Um?

961
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: There are two different kinds of players, Um, and the

962
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Shan is better. Uh? Had some different type of schemes. Um,

963
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: so really just implement those schemes and uh, just working

964
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: through the new offense. And he should still trying to

965
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: learn and we're behind him. So it would be really

966
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: good have to supposed to playment go back there for fun.

967
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: Having said that, how conserved are you and he's not

968
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: convene available for you? If all the season are big

969
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: chunk um. I mean it's it's something that we knew

970
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: was gonna happen, um. But we'll be ready for whenever

971
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: you come back and something the better. So it's one

972
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: of the hardest parts of list season, not being able

973
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: to put the kind of tape out there that that

974
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: you know you're capable of. Oh yeah, and I'm definitely

975
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: ready to turn that around for this year. You know what,

976
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: he's at eight five nine, But are you co let's

977
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: checking what is Miles? I mean, you were talking about this,

978
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: but nowledge year three going against Miles and camp Um,

979
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: what if you learned about trying to black mechomic um.

980
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: He's very strong and very fast now, but he's he's

981
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: a really good player of it. There's nothing to make

982
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: you better. Um. He's helping in a lot of technical things.

983
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: He definitely got very technical in his game. So he's

984
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: team was getting better. I'm continuously getting better and we're

985
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: just getting each other better. So do you guys talk

986
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: like after the play is over or do you wait

987
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: till after practice or oh waits out the practice or

988
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: if I see him in locker room or something, I'll

989
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: just ask him a question kind of what do you

990
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: think of this? Or what do you see from me?

991
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: And then go from there. He has gotten any easier

992
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: to blind him, though I don't think it ever will.

993
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: You don't have to go against one of the best

994
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL like that, who might even challenge for

995
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Player of the Year. How does that impact you? Know?

996
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: Does that get in your head a little bit? I

997
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: mean when you practice against them every day? Uh, it

998
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: might make you think, jeez, I don't know if one

999
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: you know as good as I need to be, but

1000
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: you're going against him, So how do you with that

1001
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: or reconcile that? You know? Um, I haven't had any problems.

1002
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: Actually opposite. I love going against Miles. I'd rather do

1003
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: that than go against anybody else because at any day

1004
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: I know it's making me better. Um, and especially when

1005
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: there's sometimes like a fop block him. It's like, no

1006
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: kudos to meet you know what I'm saying, Um, but

1007
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: he's definitely made me a lot better and uh, like

1008
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: you said, to learn in the running for defense to

1009
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: play the year out. I hope he gets them. So

1010
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm behind him for that too. Just to be mark

1011
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: to Shaun's status. And you know the parent Virgin told

1012
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: me that made any difference or a challenge. No, we've

1013
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: had both those guys rotating through with the first route,

1014
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: so it should be no change when he gets out there.

1015
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: Just to think you've been healthy in training camp every year,

1016
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: it's just that those injuries during this season night. So

1017
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: I was healthy and those both those years. I actually

1018
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: played through all of my rookie year until we got

1019
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: to row ahead, and both those juries weren't caused by me.

1020
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Would be great frustrating. I got fell on or got

1021
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: rolled up on both of those. Hopefully keep my feet

1022
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: in this year. And but even last training camp after

1023
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: the season ending injuries were okay at this point yeah

1024
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: this year, Yeah, I was funny. So they yeah, look,

1025
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: you need a big year from him, you know, especially

1026
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: as you're you know, you you brace for an offense

1027
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna be, I would have think very, very run

1028
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: and heavy. We go back to that the case Keenum

1029
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: offense we saw on that Thursday night against against Denver

1030
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: that had a pretty good mix of of obviously a

1031
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of run but then really controlled passing, and I think,

1032
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: you know, that's probably what we're headed for, uh this year.

1033
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: So you need this year three for Jed Wills, you know.

1034
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big, big year for him, and

1035
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: it is a big year for him, and it's a

1036
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: big year for you know this line, especially if you're

1037
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: were in a situation where we're gonna be a defense heavy,

1038
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: run heavy, play action ball control team, which is really

1039
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: what we have been the entire time Kevin's fancies here.

1040
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: The guy that was going to change what we were

1041
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: able to do fundamentally is Deshaun Watson, and we just

1042
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: don't know when we will he will get that opportunity

1043
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: to do that. But the guy who fundamentally is going

1044
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: to change what the Browns are able to do offensively

1045
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: is Watson. That's when you can play shot get you

1046
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: can throw four times a game if you want, You

1047
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: can get all the light boxes, you know, for Nick

1048
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: Chubb and Kareem Hunt and Joronest Johnson. That's not going

1049
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: to be the case now, and so yeah, it is

1050
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: important that Jed Wills has a good season on that

1051
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: blind side, working next to you know, the consummate a

1052
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: whole pro Joel Bettonio. And I think he will. He's

1053
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: working hard on his footwork. He's working hard, you know,

1054
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: in terms of his process and some of the things

1055
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: he talked about with the hop and then yeah, the

1056
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: Browns are counting on Jed Wills to have a big

1057
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: gear and I think he's up to the task. Yeah,

1058
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun fund to monitor this offensive line

1059
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: as it goes along. You know, there's once once we

1060
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: get the certainty on Watson, I think then everything becomes

1061
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: whatever it is. It's just easier to move forward. Everything

1062
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Speaker 1: we do is tabled by that, you know, and that

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Speaker 1: makes you know, a lot of these conversations that we're

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Speaker 1: having very very difficult. All right, coming up next, we'll

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00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: take a look at what we've seen very very early

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Speaker 1: here is they're working on some individual work that going

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Speaker 1: on right now. Let you know who's out here, who isn't,

1068
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Speaker 1: who's taking today, you know, relatively author still putting in work.

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Speaker 1: As we see the team out here, individuals, defensive backs

1082
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: working right in front of us. You have the safety group,

1083
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: the corners here getting in some good work with some

1084
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: footwork and such, and we have a little bit of

1085
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: roster movement as well. It appears yeah, the Browns have

1086
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: signed linebacker Jordan's Kunazik. I think that that was right

1087
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: and waved Silas Kelly with an injury designation due to

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00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. And uh Kunazik is a linebacker former

1089
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: at Cal out of Cal was a an under aft

1090
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: the free agent two thousand and nineteen who has appeared

1091
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: in twenty six games with the Panthers and Washington. Played

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00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: eleven games for the Commander's last year's first team All

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00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: Packed twelve in two thousand and eighteen out of Cal

1094
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: uh and then as I said, undraft and started with Carolina. Um.

1095
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: He made his NFL debut in September twelve, two thousand nineteen,

1096
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: against the Bucks. Played in nine games, seven tackles, was

1097
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: waived and then signed with Washington on their practice squad.

1098
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: Elevated the active roster in the middle of twenty twenty

1099
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: uh and then back and forth on and off their

1100
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: roster and was released dismay and now get another opportunity.

1101
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: So it's pretty I mean, twenty six games, the guy

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00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: who's been around the NFL, and you know, we'll dig

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00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: in there. But my my guess is uh A lot

1104
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: of his appearance is going to be fourteen career tackles,

1105
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: gonna be on the special team's side of things, certainly,

1106
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: so and and so as we have the team out

1107
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: here getting into wood viederal work linebackers to our left

1108
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: down there defensive backs here right in front of us.

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00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: We also have the guys who are being held out today,

1110
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: Donovan People's Jones among those. But I don't know that

1111
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: that's a big red flag, but rather just a an

1112
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: interesting thing to note. Yeah, just something to note, and

1113
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 1: it will be an opportunity for guys in that room

1114
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: to step up once again. Uh in that wide receiver

1115
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: room is you know you'll have Amari Cooper out there today.

1116
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: This is a big day for I think Anthony Schwartz

1117
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: and David Bell to to show what they can do.

1118
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: You know, the guys that have really stood out, you know,

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00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: Donovan's had a great camp, Mike Woods has had a

1120
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: great camp. Both of them are out today. Amri has

1121
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: been fantastic, but Schwartz needs to show more. And really

1122
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: the guy that you would say of the of the

1123
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: others that have been out there that's had a really

1124
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: nice camp so far is is eighty two Mike Harley Jr.

1125
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: Who continues to make plays day in and day out.

1126
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: And so this is again that's the one room to

1127
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: me that ask questions everybody focus on the defensive tackle room.

1128
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: I think the Bronze are very comfortable. They have in

1129
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle room. The room that's gonna need to

1130
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: produce for this team to be what we wanted to

1131
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: be is the wide receiver room. I mean, that's that's

1132
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: an important as important a room as there is in

1133
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now. Well, yeah, you know, outside the quarterbacks obviously. Yeah,

1134
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: and I wonder you know, as you as we've we've

1135
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: haven't really have we had one day no we of it.

1136
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: We haven't had one day of everybody. Um. So you

1137
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: know you're talking about one way back Sunday. Sunday Sunday

1138
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: had everybody. Yeah, Okay, Okay, that's it. So Sunday you

1139
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: had everybody, um, and then you're you'd want everybody today

1140
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: and then tomorrow. You know, you hope to have everybody,

1141
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: but who knows. Um, You've got to be pretty careful

1142
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: with this by the time you get to that Jacksonville game,

1143
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: don't you. I Mean, there's I just feel like we

1144
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: need another guy Baldwin. You got Javon whims back, you mean,

1145
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: somebody who's played, who's played in the league, who can

1146
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: be kind of counted on because I mean, you know,

1147
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz love him, but like you just have he's

1148
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: got a stack together several weeks of play. I mean

1149
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: we to me, someone someone who's you're not expecting to

1150
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: have a big role on this team. Yeah, and he

1151
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: had a rough I think it's very fair to say

1152
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: that he had a rough, a rough day on Sunday,

1153
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: and so you hope that he bounces back today. But yeah,

1154
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: like Emmanuel Sanders is out there, to Sean Jackson's out there,

1155
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: Will Fuller remains unsigned. So you know, are these the

1156
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: kind of guys that you want to go after? T

1157
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: Y Hilton, I don't know the answer to that, but

1158
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: I think the Browns, you know, and and maybe somebody's

1159
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 1: gonna step up, maybe Jacim Grant surprises, maybe Felon starts.

1160
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: But you're talking about you know, you got Whims who

1161
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: had a nice day on Sunday, got a big catching

1162
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: his first day back. He's six four, he's got some

1163
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: size to him. But yeah, I'm kind of with you.

1164
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: I think, you know, look, it's so early and we've

1165
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: only seen Shorts for a couple of days, but he,

1166
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: to me, is the one that he's got to do it,

1167
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't do it, deaths And I think

1168
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: you need to at some point address the fact that, yeah,

1169
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: we need to make a move here and we need

1170
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: to get somebody in the program that can help us

1171
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: at that position. It's interesting because there are like Dallas

1172
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: is in this position. You know, they're they're very very thin,

1173
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: and they're all writing about how Dallas what Dallas really

1174
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 1: needs is Amari Cooper. Well right right, yeah, I'm starting

1175
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: the guy from Dallas this morning actually about exactly that that, Like,

1176
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: what what exactly were they thinking on the Mariy Cooper

1177
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: side of things? They had him? Um, you know, that's

1178
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: a team that to me, it kind of feels like

1179
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: the window is open and by about a crack uh

1180
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: in terms of them being a contender. But I don't know,

1181
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: you look at them, it feels like it's kind of

1182
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: a bit of a diminishing return. But yeah, I mean

1183
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: that there's a receiver shortage around the league and so

1184
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: you know there are several teams like us that are contenders.

1185
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like we need a guy. But

1186
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how all of these things, um,

1187
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: how all of these things tracks. So we are in

1188
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: a full pads day today is this say, um, then

1189
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: we'll get it. We get some one on one work

1190
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: going on individual stations kind of going on right now,

1191
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: and then we'll start to get into some eleven on elevens.

1192
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: Is that you anticipate this, that's how it'll go. Yeah,

1193
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: we'll always individual work and then you'll get some uh,

1194
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 1: I'll probably get some team. Then you'll get some seven

1195
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: on seven, some more teams. Some situational work has been

1196
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: kind of the hallmark of this Kevin Stefanski training camp,

1197
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: whether it be red zoned. We're seeing our punters right

1198
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: now go through some things and we'll wonderful see them

1199
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: put the ball in the air at all to brief

1200
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: looking fantastic quarters up. It's a good looking one. Yeah.

1201
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: The white almost looks cream. Yeah you that with the

1202
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: with the orange T shirt underneath it. Yeah, it almost

1203
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: as a cream appearance to it. So that's that's very

1204
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: very good. Um. Yeah, So that that's where you're at.

1205
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: You get into you gotta get some good work in here.

1206
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: This is a training camp days, Kevin Stefanski said. And

1207
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: then you'll have a you know what would typically be

1208
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: a pregame practice tomorrow. That one is not open to

1209
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: the public, and then we go Sunday, Monday, Tuesday open

1210
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: and then we're done. That's it for training camp and

1211
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: then we're done. That's a round. I believe we will

1212
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: be out here for joint practices. Where we will be

1213
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: set up is a whole another discussion. In those two

1214
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: windows up in those two windows, I'd love to be

1215
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: up there that you could really see up there from

1216
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: the Givvy windows. They are back. What is this? What

1217
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: are these? Why are and are they mitches? They seem

1218
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: smaller than nidges they see thats why are they attacking me? Yeah, yeah,

1219
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: they they are. They were something that it feels like

1220
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: there's something that's hit our area here in the last

1221
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: two weeks that I was not simply just not not

1222
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: at all prepared for from that standpoint. Um, So there

1223
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: you go. That's that's what you got going on out here.

1224
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: You get some work. I just said, Dave a Bell

1225
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: catch a nice ball over there on the far far

1226
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 1: and far field they're working. This is nice. It looks

1227
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: like they're working over on the on the west field,

1228
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: and all of the fans are on the west side

1229
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: because again the east side is closed. So if you

1230
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: are you know, late getting out here or whatever you will,

1231
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: we will all be on that side because the west

1232
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: side of the east side rather was underwater. Yeah, I

1233
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: believe it still is. Yeah. Oh it's wet. It's really

1234
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: well if you look over there, it will take all

1235
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: of the next four days probably to dry it out.

1236
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: Do we have where do we sit? Do we have

1237
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: any um? Are we Are we looking good for the

1238
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: rest of this week? Oh? Yeah? We seven were good?

1239
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 1: Yeah in the seventies. My goodness, what a crazy weather

1240
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: pattern we've had seventies and August. Yeah, we're gonna get

1241
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: what we've been getting here for the last three Have

1242
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: you guys secured a tea time for Thursday morning? We

1243
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: have not. I haven't. That's sad. It is sad. I'd

1244
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: love to do it. Try. Do you want to come

1245
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: on joining us? Come on over? How are you brother?

1246
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: Good to see some Oklahoma maroon on down there on

1247
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: the feet? Did you have some kicks on? Oh? I

1248
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: love it? Crimson and Cream, Crimson and Cream. He was

1249
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: just coming over, so you guys put me on the air.

1250
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: I just came to say hi. Well, yeah, but I

1251
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: mean you have the you had you had our favorite

1252
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: exchange of the press, yeah, which was coach. You are

1253
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: aware that we don't talk to you again? I'm paraphrasing,

1254
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: until you know that wasn't me, that it wasn't you,

1255
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: That wasn't me, was not me. I basically asked the

1256
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: first question, and I was like, all right, what do

1257
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: we know how this is going to go? But you,

1258
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: I thought it sound like it's here. Darn chucks. I

1259
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I don't. I don't. I don't have

1260
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: the greatest voice in the world, but I have a

1261
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: distinct voice. It's sad that we confuse it with somebody,

1262
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: which is really more of a compliment to their voice

1263
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: than anything. If anything, it elevates who ever asked the question. Yeah,

1264
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: I would agree time, I would agree. Give me you're

1265
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: out here every we were we were talking obviously all

1266
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: the off field stuff that it's plentiful, But in terms

1267
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: of on the field, who's shined? Who have you? Who

1268
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: have you liked what you've seen? The last time I

1269
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: said on the radio, Hey, this particular guy looks good.

1270
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: He got injured, a little nervous about Jinx and anybody else.

1271
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: That was Michael Woods, the second my open guy speaking

1272
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: of which, but yeah, so uh man, he was he was, yeah,

1273
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: he was. He was doing pretty well before the injury. Um,

1274
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: I think I told you guys earlier heard great things

1275
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: about Jordan Elliot. It's hard for us to kind of

1276
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: evaluate defensive tackles in this type of setting because you

1277
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: know they're not really hitting. But I know they're really

1278
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: pumped up about his potential for this year. Same with

1279
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit. You know you're another year away from that

1280
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: Achilles injury. I think their safety position as a chance

1281
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: to be really good. So, uh, let me look around,

1282
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Jerome Ford camp Burst, uh about White

1283
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: about twenty in white, Greg Newsom, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1284
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: secondary is gonna be legit this year. As long as

1285
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Speaker 1: they stay healthy, it's gonna be really good. Yeah, he's

1286
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: he's got a certain pep in the step. What about

1287
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: our guy that you're sometimes hot, sometimes cool, or a

1288
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: guy our buddy de Ernest? First of all, that's that's

1289
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: a complete misrepresentation. You wanted him come by the way.

1290
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: I just want to say bo I was on. He

1291
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: wasn't prompted for that either. Jibby knows this. I was

1292
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: on the Dernist train before anybody, before before anybody, and

1293
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: then I kept telling Nathan like look out for thirty man,

1294
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: he's coming on and and then Nathan claimed it like

1295
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: he was the first one that discovered it is outrage

1296
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: than never. But don't claim you first. All I know

1297
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: is that you know, on I believe it was Saturday

1298
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: or Saturday or Sunday's practice. I was standing next to

1299
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: Jake and I'm not saying he's smirched anybody, but you know,

1300
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: pondered aloud about you know, their future and their role,

1301
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the guys just was embarrassing

1302
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: people in scoring. By the way, that is a true story.

1303
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: We were talking about, like who's gonna make this teach?

1304
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: I can see something and then I'm not kidding, Like

1305
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: nine routes in a row took the dB to the

1306
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: ground for from the back to TVs. That's the thing.

1307
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: Like it's more of a more of a like overly

1308
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: respect the artist, like he could probably play more elsewhere.

1309
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: I think you like you can't keep nine running backs,

1310
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: which I mean, we'll see what happen to keep a

1311
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: good man down, Jake snow grind as they say, grind. Mr.

1312
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: Woods is significant. Right, It's going to be a minute.

1313
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it's gonna be back anytime soon. Okay,

1314
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: So We were just pondering this. Do you feel comfortable

1315
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: with the current construct of the Browns wide receiver room.

1316
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: Do you advocate adding uh Sanders or Sean Jackson or

1317
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: a will ful or someone who has played of consequence

1318
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: in this league you can still play. I mean, Mandel Sanders,

1319
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: that's not forget was the starting receiver for the Bills

1320
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: last year. Who are a fine football team. Where are

1321
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: you at with this wide receiver room? Well, I know,

1322
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: coming out of minicamp, they felt like they felt pretty

1323
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: good about this group. Like I don't think that they were.

1324
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: They have been looking at anybody or at least a

1325
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: veteran um. Now that could always change. At the end

1326
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: of training camp, I will say I think I'm less

1327
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: high on the receiving corps than I was maybe three

1328
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and part of that is injuries. But I

1329
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: mean I also saw like, yeah, well, what was the

1330
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: uh what what? What day? Was the two minute drill?

1331
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: It's like running together so Sunday, I know what the

1332
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: first team it was, like, you know, it's Mike Harley Jr.

1333
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: And it was JaMarcus Bradley. I'm like, you know, I

1334
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: don't know that these guys are making the team and

1335
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: they're running with the one and Mike Harley Jr. Is

1336
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: making a lot of plays. But yeah, that feels like

1337
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: this he's he's here more to say, I should be

1338
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: in the program and maybe in the future I can

1339
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: be on this roster, or maybe he's gonna play his

1340
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: way right onto the roster. But I think you know,

1341
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: when we were talking and Sunday was to be fair

1342
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: his or stay back in the team portion for Anthony Schwartz,

1343
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: but that's the kind of the lynchman, and he didn't.

1344
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: It was not gonna Sunday was not a great day.

1345
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: But he's got he's got to make plays out here,

1346
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: and it just it hasn't happened yet. Now again he's

1347
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: been out, but he's back now. I think you gotta

1348
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: have some more known commodities. I've been talking, We've been

1349
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: talking about this a couple of weeks, like I need

1350
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: I need somebody who's played in the league in the

1351
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: mix here pretty quickly. I feel does also feel like

1352
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: they're probably not going to do anything drastic until they

1353
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: have a little clarity at the quarterbacks. But it's gonna

1354
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: be more. It's gonna be more than it currently as

1355
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: we know that here's the other thing. If it was

1356
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: what it currently is, then you can say, okay, you

1357
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: can keep it together until then. But and all of

1358
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: this was built on the idea that Deshan would elevate.

1359
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: But I think we can know what's going to be

1360
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: more so to me, all the more sense of urgency.

1361
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: There's just not This is even Devil's advocate. This is

1362
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: just we're talking. If Deshan is out for a significant

1363
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: period of time and we're running the offense that we

1364
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: think would be much more akin to the last few years.

1365
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: We're probably playing two receivers more than we're playing three,

1366
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: no question, We're probably playing the Joko and Bryan you

1367
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: need to go get So maybe maybe because I don't

1368
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: know the number three tight end is on the roster

1369
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: or in that offense, the number four tight end is

1370
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: on the roster either. Stanton I think has had a

1371
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: good camp four stalls. Taking a little bit of a

1372
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: step back, I think, what's we've gotten to this portion? Good?

1373
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: That was another guy I was gonna say, is you

1374
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: know stood out. He's made more plays than any other

1375
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: tight ends so far, no doubt. I wonder if it's

1376
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: easier to find a third slash fourth, a third tight

1377
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: end or a fourth receiver. Like in terms of someone

1378
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: who's on the market, I haven't even looked into like

1379
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: the tight ends that are out there. You spent so

1380
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: much time talking receivers that are out there. That's another guy.

1381
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 1: He's taken from me. Just by the way, what Harrison

1382
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: was on Terson Brian bandwagon when they drafted him out

1383
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: of got back the award winner. I go, Nathan, let

1384
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: me tell you about this guy they drafted and then

1385
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: he took him to Oh my gosh, I've never seen

1386
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: such a full frontal attack of the next thing. And

1387
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna be telling me that he was leading.

1388
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: He's leading to the Anthony Bell train right now, and

1389
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm just seeing thinking about getting on board. I know,

1390
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: I will say this. I will say this guy is

1391
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: like about the receiving court looks a lot better with

1392
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson than anybody else at quarterback. Instead, it was

1393
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: lack of five power does stick out with you know

1394
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: when you don't have a top five, top ten quarterback. Yeah,

1395
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: we had the general and you know John McClain, and

1396
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: that's what he you know, when we were talking to

1397
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: him about Watson, we were talking about this group and

1398
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: he said, look, he's gonna elevate all of these guys,

1399
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: like this is actually gonna work out just well for him,

1400
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: they'll work. There'll be more than adequate for what Deshaun

1401
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: Watson is used to in the way they will be

1402
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: able to elevate. But now you just don't have any

1403
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: sort of certainty around that. Um So that's you know,

1404
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: that's kind of where we are in limbo. I am again,

1405
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: I am shocked. What the heck day is today? It's

1406
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: August nine and we're still having this. Well that's the

1407
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: thing that's like, it's just so ridiculous again, not even

1408
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: not even taking the merits of what is even having

1409
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: This is a very late portion of your season to

1410
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: not really understand what your season is going to be

1411
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: for any team. Now, an injury could happen that changes

1412
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: things up, like McKay beck then with the Jets. But

1413
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: that's like a normal part of football. This is not

1414
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: a normal part of football, and it is it is.

1415
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: It's wild, it's and certainly not fun. And I think

1416
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 1: for the what I am you said, it's been a

1417
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: weird training camp. But what I what I found it

1418
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: interesting is if you didn't know if you just dropped

1419
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: out of clear blue sky and came and sat in

1420
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: the bleachers from these parts, you have no idea that

1421
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: I've said that multiple times, that you would have no idea.

1422
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: I think that's what adds to the weirdness. I agree,

1423
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: But somehow you would know this, especially Nathan, like being

1424
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: in the building. It definitely it's it's uh. I don't

1425
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: know if distraction is the white word, but it is.

1426
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: It's hanging over it's cast a pause, cast a pause.

1427
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: As they will say, well, you can't shake it. You

1428
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: can't any time that we have any other conversation about it,

1429
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: it's over it. They're so so so once you have

1430
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: whatever it's going to be, once that happens, then everybody

1431
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: can evolve and move on to the next thing. But

1432
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: right now you're kind of stuck in the mud. And

1433
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: it was all of it. The way that the process unfolded,

1434
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,919
Speaker 1: it was like you were almost so close to closure,

1435
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: but what you thought you had it, You thought you

1436
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: had it and it was a mirage. And then it's like,

1437
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: and no, you're still a week ago. At this time,

1438
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 1: we're doing the show with half and we knew what

1439
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: it was and at that point we were thinking, boy,

1440
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if there would be an appeal. They

1441
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: want to upset a you know, collect that was a

1442
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: week decision came out eight days ago, and I have

1443
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 1: to remember if it was like in July or August,

1444
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: Liken its three weeks because there was so many different

1445
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: twist and turns to the whole saga that yeah I saw.

1446
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of the camera guys that I

1447
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: know from the w W E and one of them goes, man,

1448
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: he goes, you're getting a lot of gray hairs and

1449
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: I have both gotten more gray in our beer just

1450
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: in the last week alone. Yeah, yeah, that's true. It's

1451
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's it's it's tough. So, you know,

1452
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: hudos when the clarity on that will be thanks for stopping. Yeah,

1453
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: no problems. Alright, I'll take any more of my guys.

1454
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, listen, just everybody, I'm gonna make

1455
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: a list. I'm giving it to Gibbey any time because

1456
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: he's trust. This guy's trust. I know you'll enforce it yourself.

1457
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: This is this is just right now is unbelievable. This

1458
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: very this is a disturbing alliance. It really is I'm not.

1459
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: I was not prepared for it nor ready. Anyways, my

1460
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 1: friend Ryan Novak would say, I'm very uncomfortable with this alliance.

1461
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: Just about ethics. Don't steal big ethics. Thanks Jake, Well,

1462
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on things happening at camp. You

1463
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: listen to Cleve the Bronze Daily on fifty ESPN Cleveland,

1464
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily on E S B and Cleveland. Well,

1465
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: tough scene out here in bourri As. We were in

1466
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: break which you came Grant z Um not good, buddy. No.

1467
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: He went down and they were doing one on ones

1468
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: there and one of the highlights big pass from Shaun

1469
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: Watson to David Njoku Lavert Hill with a big ppu

1470
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: and got a big handshake from Joe Woods. And unfortunately,

1471
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 1: though all eyes were on Jachem Grant, the Pro Bowl returner,

1472
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: All Pro returner of the Browns, who was down kind

1473
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: of just directly across from us, right around the five

1474
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: yard line. Looked to be in a great deal of pain,

1475
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: something in his lower body. They carted him off just

1476
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: now after he spent some time with the trainers. Mike

1477
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: prefer was standing by looking on and it did not

1478
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: good and he was somebody that you know, look again,

1479
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: for this team, they are counting on him to be

1480
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: a significant part of, you know, turning this return game around.

1481
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: We've talked about the drought on a kick return since

1482
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, a punt return since two thousand

1483
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: and fifteen, and this guy had scored a return touchdown

1484
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: in four straight seasons. And so to see him go

1485
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: down and you hope that maybe it was more precautionary

1486
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: than anything, and that you know, we still have plenty

1487
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: of time until the season opener. We got a month

1488
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: for that, and that you know, he'll be able to

1489
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: be back in time. But that's something that we certainly

1490
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: have to monitor. And I don't know what kind of

1491
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: an update will get because again Kevin Szepanski is not speaking.

1492
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: We don't know when he's speaking to the media. Again,

1493
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: it might not even be until Friday. So you guys

1494
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: will have him Friday pre game, right, we'll have him

1495
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: Friday pre game. Oh A nice pass. So right now

1496
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: we're again it looks to me like we're getting to

1497
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: offense versus one defense in some type of situation and

1498
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: there's a big pass up the sideline they fought by

1499
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: David bell from Jacobe Brissette getting fired up. It looked

1500
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: like they did they did that in the two minute

1501
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: drill on Sunday where the second team was going up

1502
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: against the first team and mixing it up here a

1503
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm trying to see if that's right though. Unfortunately,

1504
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: we're just in a very difficult for a long ways

1505
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: and the way that they and we're looking through an

1506
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: entire team, an entire deal. This is now, this is

1507
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: the Watson, the one offense and the two defense. Uh.

1508
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: Based on the offensive line, I can see that it's

1509
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: the one offensive on the defense over here, and Kareem

1510
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: Hunt is right Kareem Hunt in the backfield for the Browns.

1511
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: But this just came grant. You know, obviously it's not

1512
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: good and it's also not only the return game blow,

1513
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: but it's another wide receiver down for the Cleveland Browns

1514
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: at this time, and so you know, you hate to

1515
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: see that. Uh, they are not tackling the ground right now.

1516
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: It is a team period. We are in pads. We

1517
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: had a big play on up the sideline on a

1518
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: great pass room were set there and now we're doing

1519
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: some running in the perimeter portion of the practice, which

1520
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: is what usually is the first team portion of the day.

1521
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's I don't know, raced the room.

1522
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's just another yeah, because he you know,

1523
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: receiver to you know who knows. It's never a good sign.

1524
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's not that was not never a good sign.

1525
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 1: But when you see what you have there, but you

1526
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: keep your fingers crossed because he was obviously you know,

1527
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: electric in the return game and then also, um, you

1528
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: know somebody who could who's I mean, he was out

1529
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: there running routes. So these guys gonna help you at

1530
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: receiver too, in in some limited basis. So you're that

1531
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: room is just it was a room of question before

1532
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: any of this started, and there's been nothing that's happened

1533
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: here at the start of camp. Now they're more question.

1534
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: In fact, it's even more yeah. So it feels like

1535
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: anytime you start to get something good, then it's taken

1536
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: away a little bit. So what you'd love to see,

1537
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: what would give you a lot of comforts, as Shaun

1538
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: Watson pass intended their Franthony Swartz fell in complete, well

1539
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: you would have loved. What you'd love to see is

1540
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: him start to make plays and even on Sunday. He

1541
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: was able to get open, but he was not able

1542
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: to come down with the football. And that is that

1543
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: really is one of the things that you need to do,

1544
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: is as a wide receiver is to when now you

1545
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: hope we get to catch the football. Man, It's just

1546
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: that simple. That's what Chadow Show would say, can you

1547
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: get open and can you catch football? And so that's

1548
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: why I think you need to see I think he

1549
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: is a key to unlocking a lot of what the

1550
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: Browns want to do from an offensive standpoint this year.

1551
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: And it's got to get It's got to get better, right,

1552
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: It's got to get better in a hurry in this

1553
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: receiver room. Again, not I don't believe that it is

1554
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: a concern. I do believe that it is. It's something

1555
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: though that bears monitoring. And by the way, that was

1556
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: kind of the approach all of this all off season,

1557
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: right was that we're gonna evaluate how this goes, how

1558
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz continues to evolve and perform, and then we

1559
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: would make a decision later on in camp. It is

1560
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: getting now to the midpoint of camp, and certainly from

1561
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: an open standpoint that the offseason, we're getting close to

1562
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 1: the end of it, believe it or not, which is

1563
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: kind of wild to say out loud. I think we

1564
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: have today, what give a Sunday. There's like three more

1565
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: day Monday, Tuesday, and then Wednesday is the off day

1566
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: as we welcome Philadelphia for joint practice. Is Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

1567
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: that day before the game Sunday one o'clock kick First Energy.

1568
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't like those. I don't like the one o'clock

1569
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: Sunday preseason game. I'm not a not a fan. I

1570
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: like it better than a Thursday seven or eight o'clock.

1571
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: I think Friday night preseason games are Friday night. That's

1572
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: the sweet spot for him. So we have one Friday night,

1573
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: we have one Saturday night, and one Sunday afternoon, which

1574
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: is your favorite. It goes Friday night, Sunday even Saturday afternoon,

1575
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: and Sunday afternoon. Saturday afternoon too. I thought the last

1576
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: one is Saturday afternoon, is it? I thought it was

1577
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: in the wrong. I thought it was in the eve.

1578
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: I'm just worried about trying to get to through Jacksonville week,

1579
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: which is currently crushing me. You can do it, get back.

1580
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: We have a lot of belief in you, and you

1581
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: have and you have a Stevie, you have these other guys,

1582
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: see about three more currently? Well what about what about

1583
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: they were from They were from at seven pm on

1584
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: that's on the seven, so you have to seven pms

1585
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: and then you have the Sunday afternoon. Is is where

1586
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: we're at? Um alright, So there you go. So that

1587
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: the the Jakeem grant, that's not good. That's out of

1588
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: our sales. For those who were looking into a lot

1589
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: of the details of Nick Chubb having a veteran's day

1590
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: off as you talked about earlier, and Kareem Hunt is

1591
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: working as he's starting running back in the team drills.

1592
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: So whatever was happening earlier that has been seemingly sorted out.

1593
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: As we see another PBu from this defense, it seems

1594
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: we having a good start here. Is that seven? Should

1595
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: I think that was? Well, like I just saw seven.

1596
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: My guess would have been, no, it's not seven, Perry

1597
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: and I can see him there. I think it was

1598
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: thirty seven. I think we're looking at the thirty seven.

1599
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: I don't know my guy, the Anthony Bell, your guy

1600
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: he's bringing everybody, don't take him. Take come on. I've

1601
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: been on what an incredible he'll turn it. It was

1602
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: outrageous and believe went out that was a long wayfation.

1603
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: It was the fact that you are laughing shows how

1604
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 1: preposterous it was because you were laughing from the stunning

1605
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: nature of what he was saying. And then the audacity

1606
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: the gall really to say at the endit's about ethics,

1607
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: which is sun incredible. What is this a little pep

1608
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: talk here? Because I think the pace of player, I

1609
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 1: think it's that. And it's a little shell shock, you know,

1610
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 1: you lose a guy on a on a cart. That's

1611
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: something that is an attention getter. Right, Too many palls

1612
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 1: are being cast. Yeah, yeah, certainly hard Knocks tonight you in, Yeah,

1613
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: I'll watch Danni Campbell. So Kyle Brandt said this morning

1614
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: on on Good Morning Football that he has that he

1615
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: has a potential to be to the greatest character in

1616
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 1: the history of hard knocks, who is currently the greatest

1617
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 1: character in the history of hard knocks before we see

1618
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: anything of Dan Campbell. So what immediately came to my

1619
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: mind is the greatest character in the history of hard

1620
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,839
Speaker 1: knocks was Ricky Martellis Bennett. I really enjoyed him Dallas Cowboys.

1621
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: I thought he was a fantastic Hard Knocks character. I

1622
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: got two guys in mind, I got I got hit me,

1623
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: I got hit me. These are something that jump out

1624
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: to me hit me the late great Tony Sara Goosa

1625
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: and Shannon Sharp my restitution Goose. Yeah yeah, that's old

1626
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: that's old school. I mean that's what was that stuff?

1627
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: Like those guys that was such a team. Yeah, so

1628
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: that one um from a coach standpoint, You're never going

1629
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,839
Speaker 1: to do better. I mean, this is who Dan Campbell's

1630
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: up against is. Rex Ryan was such let's have a

1631
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,480
Speaker 1: blanket snack. That was. That was a good one. Believable.

1632
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean Rex Ryan was was made four at that was.

1633
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 1: That was a very very good one. I remember Martelli's Bennett.

1634
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: What stod out to me was he was sitting in

1635
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: his room and came up with the idea that Leggan

1636
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: should have wheels on it, and somebody said, yeah, that exists,

1637
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: and it was like, that's so genius. And then when

1638
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones callag like Jared Jones on the phone, Yeah,

1639
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: that's that was. That's that was very very good. Those

1640
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: are the ones that jump out to me. Ours was

1641
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: crazy in retrospect. I mean, like the dysfunction. That was

1642
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: the dysfunction that was on full display. But also like

1643
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: the the um, the absurdity of the of the miss

1644
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: like doors just misled their crew kind of. It's crazy,

1645
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: Like we spent a lot of time with Crystal Devon

1646
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: Cajuice a lot of time, and there wasn't anybody that

1647
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: thought he was making that roster man. Kevin Devin could

1648
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: juice broken Roeback. Yeah, their financial advice with get cut.

1649
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 1: He was is really good in Tampa and then got

1650
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: paid in Oakland. Right now Vegas, I don't know if

1651
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: he's in Vegas free agent. He got Yeah, he got

1652
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 1: cut for what man, it was to make room for

1653
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: one of the tight ends from now it wasn't it

1654
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: carry on. It was either for for the defensive end

1655
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: that was with us again last year that came back.

1656
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: That was from Minnesota. That's who we got. And I

1657
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: can't think of his name right now. Compture War number

1658
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: fifty seven. It was somebody Dorsey had knowledge of previously,

1659
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: the Dorsey guy. I remember that that part of it.

1660
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: I always thought the Dorsey regretted that decision. Though he's

1661
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: really good, you know, he's really good for a couple

1662
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: of years. There, Um you got it? Maybe maybe not

1663
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Effetti a Danabo, Yeah, there you got This has the

1664
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: potential to be like the most like the uh part

1665
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: of my take, Guy's got the football guy. This isn't

1666
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 1: potentially the most football guye episodes of of Hard Knocks

1667
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: in the history of football guye episodes yea Spielman, Dorsey

1668
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: and I don't know if either Spielman or Dorsey will

1669
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 1: get much airtime. But and then Campbell chewing off people's

1670
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: legs like it's it's got all of it, it's got

1671
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: it all and you've got you know, Jared Goff was

1672
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: a very cool California kid, and I'm I obviously I

1673
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: hope he does well. I'm wor rooting for him. I

1674
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: think they've got a very interesting team. Um, I like

1675
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: that team. I mean, the Bears are gonna be one

1676
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the league, and then the Viking.

1677
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: If the Viking's regress at all, I feel like Detroit

1678
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: could be interesting. They got some weapons, They've got a

1679
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: lot of weapons. They've got Jamison Williams, they've got DJ Shark,

1680
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: They've got good Here's the guy that I liked for

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Speaker 1: us A vertical guy. They've got a Moan Ross st Brown,

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Speaker 1: They've got t. J. Hockenson, and they've got DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 1: I mean skill wise loaded. You know, they get Aidan

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson in the draft. A Kuda's back. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: there's I still think the Vikings are better than people

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Speaker 1: always write the Vikings off and they're always somehow better,

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Speaker 1: and I think with Kevin O'Connell they're they're going to

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Speaker 1: be even better. Do you think it's just where the

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Speaker 1: fact that there's such a hard cap on what they

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Speaker 1: can be. It's like they're boring in that sense, like

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Speaker 1: they can only be here's one playoff win team, Like

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Speaker 1: they're not. They're never gonna like where you can talk

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Speaker 1: yourselves into other teams making a leap. There's no leap here.

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Speaker 1: They've just never been. Even though they've been, they've just

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Speaker 1: never figured out how to be fully complete together. That's

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Speaker 1: the hard part, right, is that it's really they've been

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Speaker 1: a championship caliber offense. And it's funny that I think

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Speaker 1: most people will just signed the cap to them based

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Speaker 1: on Kirk Cousins, but they've been a championship caliber offense.

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Speaker 1: Their defense last year has been dreadful. That's why Zimmer's gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is all right, so much more to come. You

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Speaker 1: a great newsome injury too as well. I see him

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Speaker 1: over here on the side. He's standing hats off um

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Speaker 1: left a team drill, getting stretched out on the side.

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Speaker 1: He looks to be fine, though he's still I see him.

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Speaker 1: They're they're checking on him at hammy. I see him

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Speaker 1: grabbing a hammy. Were you icing, No, we're just holding

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Speaker 1: we're holding the hammy at this point. Yeah, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean give it. Keep him upright here. In the

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Speaker 1: last half hour, I can't form me. Will you you

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Speaker 1: do that for me? It would be nice. Throw me

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Speaker 1: a bone here. Keep everybody upright. The next level. We'll

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Speaker 1: take you through the rest of the afternoon. ESPN clear

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