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Speaker 1: Is this a Great Game or what?

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Speaker 2: We are at the Covich Center at University of Maryland.

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Speaker 2: I'm with Hall of Famer and alumni of University of Maryland,

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Speaker 2: Tim Kirkshon. I'm his son Jeff Kirkschen for our final

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Speaker 2: regular season episode of Assist a Great Game or What?

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Speaker 3: And usually I wear my Walter Johnson fleece pullover for these,

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Speaker 3: but today University of Maryland. I've got my University of

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Speaker 3: Maryland hoodie on here. So this is going to be

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Speaker 3: the day that we're doing this at Maryland.

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Speaker 4: I graduated here in nineteen seventy eight. This is our.

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Speaker 3: Thirty third podcast of the year, and each episode we

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Speaker 3: mentioned the greatest baseball player ever to wear number whatever.

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Speaker 4: It is, So this is number thirty three.

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Speaker 3: Eddie Murray former Oriole is the greatest number thirty three

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Speaker 3: of all time. I covered him with the Orioles for

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Speaker 3: four years more than that. Actually, Mark Hyman, who runs

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Speaker 3: the Povidge Center, also covered him in nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 3: And I can't tell you how many times Eddie would

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Speaker 3: just like shush us away when we went to.

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Speaker 4: Talk to him.

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Speaker 3: So the first time I ever I went to spring

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Speaker 3: training in eighty six to cover the Orioles for the

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Sun. Floyd Rayford, who's on the Orioles, is on

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Speaker 3: the plane going to Florida. So Floyd Rayford looks at

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Speaker 3: me and I say, Floyd, I'm Tim Kirkchin. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be covering the team this year. He takes one

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Speaker 4: Goes, Eddie is going to hate you. And I said why.

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Speaker 3: He said, your head is too big for the rest

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Speaker 3: of your body. Well, I have a really little body.

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Speaker 3: I understand that, but I have.

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Speaker 4: A seven and an eighth head. I don't have a

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Speaker 4: big head. But now I'm all worried going.

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Speaker 3: On the plane to cover spring training for the first

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Speaker 3: time that my head is too big for the rest

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Speaker 3: of my body. And Eddie is going to hate me

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Speaker 3: for that. Well he ended up hating me. Maybe not

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Speaker 3: for that, but this is what we go through as journalists.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can tell that this is not that

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Speaker 2: he wears the sweatshirt all the time around the house

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Speaker 2: and he has a big stain on the front. He

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Speaker 2: just realized that he has. And you brought up Walter Johnson.

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Speaker 2: We have a listener on our show's name is Carl.

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Speaker 2: He is a big, big fan of the show, and

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Speaker 2: anytime Walter Johnson comes up on the show, my dad

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Speaker 2: sarcastically says, Hey, did I.

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Speaker 1: Ever tell you I went to Walter Johnson High School?

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Speaker 2: And it's the same, you know, like we all have

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Speaker 2: dads and moms out to make the same joke.

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Speaker 1: All the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, Carl loved it so much he made a shirt

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Speaker 2: out of it, and I ever tell you, I went

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Speaker 2: to Walter Johnson High School. And I don't know where

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Speaker 2: he got your signature there, but he somehow got that

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Speaker 2: off the internet.

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Speaker 3: And it's become an inside joke on Baseball Tonight and

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Speaker 3: all the games that I do with Carl Ravich.

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Speaker 4: I just do this to irritate him. He's better when

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Speaker 4: he's irritated. I always say, I ever tell you I

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Speaker 4: went to Walter Johnson High School? And he he just

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Speaker 3: Now he'll say to me on the air, he'll say, Tint,

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Speaker 3: did I ever tell you I went to Walter John's eyes.

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Speaker 3: It's a running joke, and somebody liked it enough that

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Speaker 3: we have a tea shirt for well.

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Speaker 2: And it's fitting to be here because Dad, you and

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Speaker 2: I are both Montgomery County Maryland products. I went to

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't even know that little paper was called

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And we have a good counsel in any

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Speaker 2: other Montgomery County products in the back there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where'd you go to high school? You went to

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Speaker 1: quit Sorchard.

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Speaker 2: QO, Let's go and wow WJ represented Wow, that's a

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Speaker 1: After gus So.

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Speaker 3: The green fleece that I wear all the time, which

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Speaker 3: I didn't wear today because I'm at Maryland, Todd Frasier,

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Speaker 3: that's the greatest shirt I've ever seen. I got to

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Speaker 3: I got him a fleece pullover that said Walter Johnson

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Speaker 3: Wildcats on it.

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Speaker 3: Large unlike mine, and I send it to him. I've

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Speaker 3: never seen him so happy in my life. So Todd

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 2: And this is just to go if you want to

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Speaker 2: get to know my dad a little bit better. You know,

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Speaker 1: People view him. But he's so humble.

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Speaker 2: He went to Walter Johnson High School, drove there, went

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Speaker 1: It to him to make sure he had it. Not hey,

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Speaker 2: Nope, he just went and bought it himself, which is

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the guy that Todd Fraser is. He's the

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Speaker 3: biggest twelve year old in the history of the world.

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Speaker 3: He was one of our best guests this year because

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Speaker 3: tap in to Todd Fraser, who played Little League Baseball

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Speaker 3: and won the championship at age twelve. We want that

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Speaker 3: guy talking to us. We don't want to talk to

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Speaker 3: Roger Clemens in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 4: We're not interested in that.

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Speaker 3: We're interested in the Little League World Series of Todd

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Speaker 3: And that was what we've tried to do with every

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and at the end of this interview usually at

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Speaker 2: this time we say, oh, our guest today is you

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Speaker 2: Here and have the students here at the Shirley Povit

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Speaker 2: Center for Sports Journalism ask us the questions. So, Dad,

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Speaker 3: And you're going to be asking the questions and just

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Speaker 1: And so we're going to get to that, of course.

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Speaker 2: And Dad, obviously we have to talk about the World Series,

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Speaker 2: But so we're going to get there, of course. But

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Speaker 3: Uh, well, favorite moments from the podcast this year. Well,

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Speaker 3: I told you. And Scott comes in from the beach.

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Speaker 4: Five minutes, and we laughed out loud for the entire time.

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Speaker 3: You're allowed to have a good chuckle when you're covering sports,

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Speaker 3: So Scott Van Pelt was one of my favorites. The

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Speaker 2: And it took us a little bit of prying with

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Speaker 2: We had Jeff frank Corr on the podcast, a long

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Speaker 2: You might have seen the clip on Instagram, very very

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Speaker 2: He says, all right, how about this, if you put

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Speaker 2: it for the round lo and behold, he hits a ball,

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Speaker 1: He gets Jeff Frank gorgan. It's a text message from

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Speaker 2: It's a screen that says it's a report for me

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Speaker 2: Philly guys out here, and that was an incredible game.

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Speaker 2: As we know, Nick Castianos is the hero tying game

445
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Speaker 2: high run in the top of the ninth, bottom of

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Speaker 2: the ninth. It was very intense. And my dad called

447
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Speaker 2: me afterwards and he said, well, is that the best

448
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Speaker 2: playoff game you've ever been to?

449
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Speaker 1: And this is the beauty of baseball?

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Speaker 4: Right.

451
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Speaker 2: I was at luckily Game seven of the Cubs then

452
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Indians when the Cubs broke the curse in twenty sixteen,

453
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Speaker 2: and it's really hard to beat that because of the

454
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Speaker 2: levity of what was going on there. But there were

455
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Speaker 2: so many iconic games. Game three in Cleveland will be

456
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Speaker 2: known as Game three forever.

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Speaker 4: Right, everyone in Cleveland. All you have to do is

458
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Speaker 4: just refer to it.

459
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Speaker 3: As Game three. You don't have to ask for anything else.

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Speaker 3: They'll all know what that means. And I was there

461
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Speaker 3: for that. It was absolutely breathtake.

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Speaker 1: What do you have for on this state in baseball history?

463
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Speaker 3: So we do this every week, and you know, we

464
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Speaker 3: always have great things that happened in baseball, but it's

465
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Speaker 3: November the fifth, so we really have to look for

466
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Speaker 3: some stuff. So today is Icebox Chamberlain's birthday. He was

467
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Speaker 3: born in eighteen sixty seven. This is my favorite nickname

468
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Speaker 3: of Major League history. His nickname was Icebox because he

469
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Speaker 3: he had ice in his veins. He had such courage

470
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Speaker 3: when he went out to the mount. I actually have

471
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Speaker 3: to double check this, and it's said here he had

472
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Speaker 3: austere com in the face of all hostility by the enemy.

473
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Speaker 3: That's how he's referred to. He's a baseball pitcher. He

474
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Speaker 3: wasn't at the bridge at Remagen, but this, this is

475
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Speaker 3: Icebox Chamberlain. So my favorite nicknames? Are you know of

476
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Speaker 3: these that happened years and years ago? My favorite nickname

477
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Speaker 3: ever is you remember my favorite nickname ever?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

479
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Speaker 1: There's so many.

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Speaker 3: There was a catcher named Doug Goosh oh, and he

481
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Speaker 3: spelled his last name gwos d z.

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Speaker 4: That was his nickname.

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Speaker 3: So his nickname was I Charged because it was like

484
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Speaker 3: you were at the doctor's office.

485
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Speaker 4: And you're reading g w oh d z.

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Speaker 3: So that's ice Box Chamberlain and that's Doug Goosh all right.

487
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Speaker 3: So in nineteen forty six, an umpire named Jim Evans

488
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Speaker 3: was born. He's still alive. He was a great umpire.

489
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Speaker 3: So one night we go out in Minneapolis. Mark was

490
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Speaker 3: on the trip with us. It is in nineteen eighty six,

491
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Speaker 3: and we go into this restaurant bar and I'm with

492
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Speaker 3: Mike Flannagan, the late Mike Flanning in, one of the

493
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Speaker 3: great shooters of all time, and there is a basketball

494
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Speaker 3: hoop in the bar. So Flanny and I are shooting

495
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Speaker 3: baskets in the bar and we're like, sorry, I hate

496
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Speaker 3: to be self serving here, but we're running the court

497
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Speaker 3: because nobody can beat me or Flanny in shooting.

498
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Speaker 4: And a couple guys.

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Speaker 3: Get really upset at us, and Jim Evans, who's an

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Speaker 3: umpire at the time, steps in and like becomes the

501
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Speaker 3: umpire and nearly gets into a fight at a bar

502
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Speaker 3: because we're shooting free throws too well.

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Speaker 4: So that's my Jim Evans's story. He's an umpire, almost

504
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Speaker 4: got a fight at a bar.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 3: Last thing today, In nineteen seventy six, Jim Palmer won

507
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Speaker 3: his final or won a cy Young Award on this

508
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Speaker 3: date in nineteen seventy six, and we had Jim.

509
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Speaker 4: Palmer on the air. It was absolutely fabulous. We loved

510
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Speaker 4: him right.

511
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Speaker 2: Jim Palmer was a Ma and you know, he was

512
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Speaker 2: able to give such a good perspective.

513
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Speaker 1: On being a pitcher.

514
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Speaker 2: But it was even more fun hearing him talk about

515
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Speaker 2: when his broadcast partner Kevin Brown had a Jim Palmer impression. See,

516
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Speaker 2: these are the things that nobody else is asking about,

517
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Speaker 2: But Kevin Brown's Jim Palmer impression is spot on right.

518
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Speaker 3: And Jim Palmer never gave up a Grand Slam nearly

519
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Speaker 3: four thousand innings pitch Channel Park gave up two to

520
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Speaker 3: one inning.

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Speaker 4: He never gave up one.

522
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Speaker 3: And when we asked him to explain it, it took

523
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Speaker 3: him ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: But he went through.

525
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Speaker 3: Every pitch of that day in Cleveland. And you know,

526
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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four. That's his recall on those things.

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Speaker 2: Now, a little self serving here, but I'm gonna ask

528
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Speaker 2: it so you don't have to. Obviously, you were a

529
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Speaker 2: student here at the University of Maryland. What dorm did

530
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Speaker 2: you stay at?

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Speaker 3: I lived in bel Air B for four years. I

532
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Speaker 3: don't even know if it's if it's a dormant, is

533
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Speaker 3: it still a dorm right next to the North gym,

534
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Speaker 3: right and that North gym you shot a lot of

535
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Speaker 3: hoops there.

536
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Speaker 4: Oh, every day?

537
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, every day you would shoot.

538
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I played basketball like every day in the

539
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Speaker 3: North Gym for four years. I also took basketball like

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Speaker 3: three ten. It was a two left. It was a

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Speaker 3: two credit upper level elective. I'll never forget this. I

542
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Speaker 3: hope I don't put the university in.

543
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Speaker 4: A bad light.

544
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Speaker 3: I'm taking a coaching basketball course and the power forward

545
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: on the Maryland basketball team took my paper off of

546
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Speaker 3: my desk and copied all the answers on his papers.

547
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Speaker 4: He's on the team, Like, how do we run a

548
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Speaker 4: screen and roll?

549
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Speaker 3: He like took it and copied off of me. I'm

550
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Speaker 3: like some dorky little guy. Yes, basketball at the North

551
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Speaker 3: gym every.

552
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Speaker 2: Day, so we do a best of all tim every

553
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Speaker 2: single week. This is a team my dad puts together,

554
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Speaker 2: and the more obscure the better.

555
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Speaker 3: Right.

556
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Speaker 2: We've had the fun with my dad's All Hall of

557
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Speaker 2: Fame team, the best Hall of Famers. You gotta go

558
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Speaker 2: every position, including bullpen and starting pitchers. But then we've

559
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Speaker 2: had more goofy ones, like the All Eclipse team and

560
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Speaker 2: the eclips happened.

561
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Speaker 4: It was bad All Fruits and Vegetables team.

562
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Speaker 9: It was.

563
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Speaker 3: It was a really pointless exercise. But I've been doing

564
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Speaker 3: this my entire life. So since today is election Day,

565
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Speaker 3: we thought we would have some fun with the all

566
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Speaker 3: Presidents team. So I've got all the president's last or

567
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Speaker 3: first names here, but I'm.

568
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Speaker 4: Only using one.

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Speaker 3: I'm not using four guys named Washington, all right. So

570
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Speaker 3: Russ Nixon and Gary Carter are the catchers, Von Hayes

571
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Speaker 3: and Reggie Jefferson at first, Josh Harrison and Homer Bush

572
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Speaker 3: two bushes at second. Ron Washington is the shortstop.

573
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Speaker 4: John Kennedy.

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Speaker 3: There was an actual John Kennedy who played third base

575
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Speaker 3: for the Red Sox in the sixties. He's our third baseman,

576
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 3: Craig Monroe, Lou Clinton. In the outfield, Willie Wilson's outfielder,

577
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Speaker 3: Michael Taylor, Brian Buchanan or Olfielders are pitchers Whitey Ford, Madison, Bumgarner,

578
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Speaker 3: Lefty Tyler, Reggie Cleveland, Babe Adams, Mudcat Grant, and my

579
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Speaker 3: favorite group are the relievers because Pierce Johnson, who still

580
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: pitches in the Big leagues, he covers two presidential names.

581
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Speaker 3: So does Grant Jackson two names. Reliever with the Orioles

582
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Speaker 3: and Pirates. When I was growing up, JJ Hoover, Brad Lincoln,

583
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Speaker 3: Jermaine Van Buren and my favorite, and he's not a president.

584
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Speaker 3: But there used to be a relief pitcher name Lenn Whitehouse,

585
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: which I always got the biggest kick out of, And

586
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Speaker 3: I talked to him about his bizarre name ones and

587
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Speaker 3: he was not amused. He didn't think it was funny

588
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Speaker 3: when I said, all President's team, Len white House.

589
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Speaker 1: You know.

590
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Speaker 2: So my daughter is McKinley Kirkchin, named after the President, McKinley.

591
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: And there's a pitcher in the Philadelphia Philly system named

592
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Speaker 2: Kinley McKinley Moore.

593
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Speaker 1: Really McKinley Moore. Yeah, there you go.

594
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Speaker 2: And a lot of people asked me, did you name

595
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Speaker 2: it after McKinley Moore, And I said, well, minor.

596
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Speaker 1: League pitcher, all due respect.

597
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: One day he could be great, but I don't think

598
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Speaker 2: we're naming him after McKinley Moore.

599
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Speaker 3: So if Kamala Harris wins, there are a bunch of

600
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Speaker 3: harris'es who might have to join. One is, of course,

601
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Speaker 3: Willie Harris, who in two thousand and eight hit a

602
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Speaker 3: home run against the Nationals. He was with the Nationals

603
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Speaker 3: and Ian Kinsler was playing.

604
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Speaker 4: For the Rangers.

605
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Speaker 3: So after the game, Ian Kinsler knowing how much I

606
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Speaker 3: love all the quirky stats, comes up to me and

607
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: he goes, You're never gonna believe this.

608
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: I'm the only one that knows this.

609
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: Willie Harris and I both homered in the same game yesterday,

610
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: playing the same position, and we have the same birthday.

611
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: That's never happened before. And I checked it out and.

612
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Speaker 1: He was right.

613
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: The second basement of the Rangers gave me a quirk gin.

614
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: So when if Kamala Harris wins, then we'll have to

615
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: put Willie Harris on the team to account for her name.

616
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Speaker 1: A bit of a bummer.

617
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Speaker 2: We did have our schedule to be our guests this

618
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Speaker 2: week on is this is a great game or what,

619
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Speaker 2: but she had to cancel.

620
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Speaker 1: She's been a little bit busy lately.

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Speaker 2: Talk about birthdays. You have to tell them the quirk

622
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Speaker 2: jin about your birthday. And the pitchers in the Yankees, yeah,

623
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Speaker 2: during the World Series, I was.

624
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Speaker 3: Born on December tenth, and so was Carlos Rodon, who

625
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: pitched for the Yankees and he started Game two, and

626
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Speaker 3: Nestra Cortes also born on December the tenth, So Cortes

627
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: gave up the homer to will to Freeman to end

628
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Speaker 3: the game when Rodon started the next game. And they

629
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Speaker 3: have the same birthday, which is the same birthday as mine.

630
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Speaker 3: And by the way, Walter Johnson, or did I ever

631
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Speaker 3: tell you I went to Walter Johnson High School. Walter

632
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Speaker 3: Johnson died on December tenth, nineteen forty six, and I

633
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Speaker 3: was born on December tenth, nineteen fifty six.

634
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 4: How spooky is that? How weird is that?

635
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: Another connection to Wjay?

636
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, So we have every single

637
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Speaker 2: week our friends at Stratamatic, they're the market leader in

638
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: sports simulations. We have them put together a simulation for us. Now,

639
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Speaker 2: before we get into this, I have to make a

640
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: correction from last week sim So remember we did Judge

641
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Speaker 2: versus Otani.

642
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: We did a.

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Speaker 2: Full nine Judges against nine Otannis, one hundred and sixty

644
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Speaker 2: two games. I royally misread when they had sent us.

645
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Speaker 2: I thought they were playing against other teams. No, they

646
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Speaker 2: were playing against each other. Hence why the Otani team

647
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Speaker 2: went under five hundred. If you had nine Otannis, they're

648
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: gonna win one hundred and thirty games easily. But in

649
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: this simulation last week, it actually was the Judge team

650
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Speaker 2: that beat the Otani team.

651
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: Oh, I see.

652
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were a little baffled at the results of

653
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: Stratt last week, and now it makes a little more sense.

654
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: They called me and said, hey, we had them play

655
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Speaker 2: each other for hundred and sixty two games.

656
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Speaker 4: Maybe I should have read it a little closer to yeah.

657
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Speaker 2: And that's why Judge had five hundred home runs, all

658
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Speaker 2: nine of them.

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Speaker 10: All.

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Speaker 3: Right, what's this week's sim. We'll have to get this

661
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Speaker 3: one right.

662
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Speaker 2: So with the Dodgers, they obviously are the twenty twenty

663
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Speaker 2: four World Series champions. We took the four best Dodger

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Speaker 2: World Series Championship teams and then put them in a

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Speaker 2: bracket style in order to see who would be the best.

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Speaker 2: So we paired the twenty twenty four World Series champions

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Speaker 2: so this year against the nineteen fifty five World Series

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Speaker 2: Championship Dodgers, and ultimately the nineteen fifty five Dodgers are

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Speaker 2: the ones who took that in just six games. And

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Speaker 2: then the eighty one and the sixty three Dodgers ended

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Speaker 2: up playing as well. And the eighty one Dodgers against

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Speaker 2: the fifty five Dodgers. Now you haven't seen the sim yet, right,

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Speaker 2: If you took the nineteen eighty one Dodgers against the

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five Dodgers. It went seven games, so it's

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Speaker 2: hard to predict who would you say is the greatest.

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Speaker 3: Well, there were more Hall of Famers on the fifty

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Speaker 3: five Dodger team than there was on the eighty one

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Speaker 3: Dodger team.

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Speaker 2: And you would be right. They won in seven games. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: Gil Hodges four homers, batted three ninety six in that

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Speaker 2: World Series. Sim and Duke Snyder for home runs batted

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Speaker 2: four hundred and.

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Speaker 3: Gil Hodges, who's just got into the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, used to live in the

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Speaker 3: neighborhood there in Brooklyn, and he liked me walking the

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Speaker 3: streets all the time walking his dog, and people would

687
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Speaker 3: just say, hey, Gil, how you doing that?

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Speaker 4: Can't happen today.

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Speaker 3: There's no way you're walking down the street and here

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Speaker 3: comes Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 2: Fernando Valenzuela two wins in that series. Just lost him

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Speaker 2: last week or two weeks of terrible loss.

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Speaker 4: Fernando Valenzuela.

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Speaker 2: Big shout out to Stratomatic market leader and Sports Simulations

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Speaker 2: for helping out with that.

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Speaker 3: You're interviewing us as opposed to us interviewing Jim Palmer,

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Speaker 3: Johnny Bench, Cal Ripken, whatever.

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Speaker 2: So fire away, take a step up to the mike,

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Speaker 2: introduce yourself, your year, name, and then your question.

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Speaker 8: Hey guys, I'm Jack Susan and I'm a senior here.

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Speaker 8: So first off, you mentioned names regarding presidents, and I

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Speaker 8: think you'd be a really big fan of the current

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Speaker 8: University of Maryland bullpen where we have Ryan Van Buren

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Speaker 8: and Andrew Johnson there.

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Speaker 4: Oh this is great.

706
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Speaker 3: You present something really stupid and you get something else.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 8: So my actual question last semester, when you came to

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Speaker 8: visit here, we talked about how you told a story

710
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Speaker 8: during a spring training game about how Jason Hammill and

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Speaker 8: JJ Hardy were the best ping pong players that you

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Speaker 8: had seen in the clubhouse. So my question is, bouncing

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Speaker 8: off of that, what other clubhouse games are any random

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Speaker 8: Major leaguer historically good at.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's great question. First off, in spring training last year,

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Speaker 3: Brewster Grattarol, who pitches for the Dodgers World champion. Now,

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Speaker 3: I watched him play ping pong and he was playing

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Speaker 3: with both hands, so he had a paddle in each hand,

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Speaker 3: and he's hitting some left handed, some right handed.

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Speaker 4: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: That is the number one game is ping pong. The

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Speaker 3: Orioles now have a pool table in their clubhouse. You

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Speaker 3: know there are card games going on at all times.

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Speaker 3: Number one rule as a reporter, never ever interrupt a

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Speaker 3: player's card game. It would be like, you know, Bluto,

726
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Speaker 3: It would be like animal house. You guys playing cards. No,

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Speaker 3: you can't do that kind of stuff. So yes, cards

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Speaker 3: are a big thing. And in the Cleveland Clubhouse all

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Speaker 3: those years, Terry Francona used to play cribbage with his players.

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Speaker 3: He and Dustin Perdoria played cribbage every day, and then

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Speaker 3: Josh Tomlin joined. So one year Jonathan Papavon, who wasn't

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Speaker 3: a very good cribbage player, said can I be in

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Speaker 3: on the game? And he was so bad because they

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Speaker 3: play for money that Terry Francona told me he built

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Speaker 3: a new basement in my house with all the money

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Speaker 3: that I won off of Jonathan papavd because he didn't

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Speaker 3: know how to play cribbage yet.

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Speaker 4: So great question.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, step on up. We've got a

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions fan here of course.

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Speaker 7: Uh hi, my name's Laura. Thank you so much for

742
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Speaker 7: being here and I'm the hugest Detroit Tigers fan in

743
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Speaker 7: the world. So my question is, there's a good friend

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Speaker 7: of ours named Aaron Arnstein who is a huge A's fan,

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Speaker 7: and unfortunately his team is moving from Oakland to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 7: So do you think the A's will do well in

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Speaker 7: Las Vegas? Will they turn things around?

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Speaker 4: Well, Jeff, You're in laws live in Las Vegas.

749
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Speaker 2: So I did radio in Las Vegas for almost five years.

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Speaker 1: I lived there.

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Speaker 2: I met my wife there, She's born and raised out there,

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Speaker 2: and I have to say I was there when the

753
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Speaker 2: Raiders got there. I was there when the Golden Knights

754
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Speaker 2: had just started their first season, so got a unique perspective.

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Speaker 2: The fans in Las Vegas. They love the Golden Knights

756
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Speaker 2: because they're Vegas born. And think of what you will

757
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Speaker 2: about Las Vegas. They have an incredibly strong united local

758
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Speaker 2: vibe because you know, all of the people who work there,

759
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Speaker 2: live there and service all of us who go party there, right,

760
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Speaker 2: so they all have that common ground of being able

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Speaker 2: to be working in the service industry. I was saddened

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Speaker 2: to see how little the Raiders were embraced at first,

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Speaker 2: and if you still watch a Raiders game, there's a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of visiting teams there. However, I feel as

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Speaker 2: if there's a different there's a difference when it comes

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Speaker 2: to baseball coming. They have the TRIPAA team, they're the

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Speaker 2: Aviators and they are loved. I mean, they've had the

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Speaker 2: fifty ones before then they became the Aviators in Summerland,

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Speaker 2: and so I believe that they will have a successful

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Speaker 2: time in Las Vegas. I don't love the choice of

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Speaker 2: where the stadium is.

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Speaker 1: Being built though.

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Speaker 2: Locals don't want to go to Las Vegas Boulevard and

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Speaker 2: go to the Strip. But they prove that wrong with

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Speaker 2: where they built Temobile Arena for the Golden Knights. So

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Speaker 2: hopefully after they've now plowed down the Flamingo, they can

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Speaker 2: have a successful time playing on Las Vegas Boulevard. But

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Speaker 2: I'm a little skeptical to see, after seeing how they

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Speaker 2: embrace the Raiders, if they'll embrace another team moving from California.

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Speaker 3: Thank you and thank you for being a Tiger fan.

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Speaker 3: So I did the Tigers against the Astro on.

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Speaker 4: TV for the wild Cards.

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Speaker 3: So I use this on this date in history for

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Speaker 3: one of the games on this date in history. Fifty

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Speaker 3: years ago, Al Kline the second greatest Tiger ever had

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Speaker 3: announced his retirement.

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Speaker 4: He got three thousand hits.

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Speaker 3: He's the second greatest right fielder defensively I've ever seen,

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Speaker 3: after Roberto Clementi. So I take twenty seconds on the broadcast,

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Speaker 3: twenty seconds to explain to the Tiger fans fifty years

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Speaker 3: ago on this date, the great al Kline announced his retirement.

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Speaker 3: The next day, on Twitter, some guy writes in that

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Speaker 3: I ruined the broadcast for him for bringing up al Kline.

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Speaker 3: He goes, I don't care about al Kline. You ruined

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Speaker 3: the broadcast for me. It was a three hour game.

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Speaker 3: I took twenty seconds with the Tiger fans to explain

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Speaker 3: how great al Kline was, and I ruined the day

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Speaker 3: for him. So sorry, this is what Twitter can do

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 11: Hey guys, my name is Michael. I'm graduating in December.

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Speaker 11: So first, I'm surprised Grover Cleveland Alexander wasn't on the

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Speaker 11: on the presidential Kindness.

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Speaker 1: That was one. I was like sure that was going

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Speaker 1: to be on there.

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Speaker 11: So two questions for you, one a real question and

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Speaker 11: one kind of a goofy question. The first one being

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Speaker 11: the real one, is that I'm going into the job

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Speaker 11: market starting now, I'm starting to apply to jobs and things,

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Speaker 11: and I'm like kind of scared to maybe do my

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Speaker 11: own thing, kind of based on like if I wanted

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Speaker 11: to do some social media things, say, I'm scared of

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Speaker 11: how people who I know or people who don't know

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Speaker 11: me may perceive me. So if there was ever a

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Speaker 11: time in your career where you kind of felt like

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Speaker 11: a little uh about something, how is that something that

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Speaker 11: you got over?

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Speaker 4: That's a great question.

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Speaker 3: I went on TV really for the first time at

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Speaker 3: age forty, so I'm starting all over. I've gone from

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Speaker 3: print to TV, even though I never left print. I've

821
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Speaker 3: been a writer my entire life. I'll be a writer

822
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Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. But going on TV

823
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Speaker 3: for the first time was really difficult. I mean, first off,

824
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Speaker 3: I spent a fortune on clothes, I wore more makeup

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Speaker 3: than my wife, and I spent a lot of time

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Speaker 3: walking around in a circle talking to myself.

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Speaker 4: It was not pleasant, but I figured out how to

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 3: But yes, you just got to fight your way through

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Speaker 3: it and say this is what I got to do.

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Speaker 4: This is the new game.

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Speaker 3: And Jeffrey, it's a different game now, right with young

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Speaker 3: people out there looking for jobs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I graduated in twenty fifteen from college and

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Speaker 2: I totally understand how you're feeling. I think the one

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Speaker 2: piece of advice and I go back and I advise

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Speaker 2: students who are just like you and helping them out.

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Speaker 2: Number one thing is do something that sets you apart.

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Speaker 1: Right, doing a podcast.

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Speaker 2: I mean our little setup here, a little baby setup

842
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Speaker 2: took me a couple of years to build. But I

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00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: mean a microphone you can plug right into your computer

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Speaker 2: and you're done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have a podcast. You just got to

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: And I think what makes it really difficult for young people,

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Speaker 2: myself included, is like they always say, oh, I mean

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Speaker 2: everybody has a podcast. Well yeah, but if you don't,

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Speaker 2: then you're one of the people who doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: podcast or whatever it is, whether it's an account. Like

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Speaker 2: a buddy of mine who is going to be graduating soon,

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Speaker 2: I've been mentoring and he does a TikTok just about

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00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: the teams that he cares about, and he goes very

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00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: niche into the team. So if you love the Yankees,

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00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: go talk about the Yankees. And you don't need to

857
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: be hot take. You don't need to be the guy

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Speaker 2: yelling about everything. You can go in deep as long

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Speaker 2: as there's a niche audience that wants to hear, just

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Speaker 2: start doing it and it'll set you up a part.

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Speaker 3: And remember, Vince Scully, the greatest play by play man ever,

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Speaker 3: once said, the only thing that will separate you from

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Speaker 3: the others is you.

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Speaker 4: So you have to be yourself.

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Speaker 3: You can take tips and watch the pros work, but

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Speaker 3: in the end, you have to be yourself.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna print that out and put that on my wall.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I like that quote.

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Speaker 11: So the second question is a goofy one. Yourself kind

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Speaker 11: of took it from me earlier. I wanted to spring

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Speaker 11: SVP on you and how that kind of started, because

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Speaker 11: that's like a strangely enough, it's like a comfort clip

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Speaker 11: of mine. If I need to laugh, I pull that

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Speaker 11: clip up all the time. So how did you and

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Speaker 11: SVP he start the whole the oozed thing for for

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Speaker 11: the Baltimore Well.

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Speaker 3: First, we're both from Montgomery County, and so we both

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Speaker 3: grew up about fifty miles from Baltimore. And I love Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: but they speak a different language in Baltimore. And the

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Speaker 3: long was the one. So the first one I know

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Speaker 3: he threw out Kikoo Garcia on the air on his

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Speaker 3: radio show and I just burst into tears.

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Speaker 4: And that was the start of the whole thing.

885
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Speaker 3: But it's gotten so big now that I was in

886
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: this safeway not too long ago and this guy like

887
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: tackles me in the in the.

888
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 4: Safeway and says, he doesn't even say hello.

889
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: He goes, can you please ask Scott Van Pelt to

890
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: tell you who the women's goalie on the soccer team is?

891
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: And of course it's who so so. So he does

892
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: it and we laugh uproariously. We're allowed to have a

893
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 3: good laugh at this. I was getting a sandwich once

894
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: not too long ago, and the guy in front of me,

895
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: I think he must have recognized me. He's ordering a sandwich,

896
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: and the guy behind the counter goes, what kind.

897
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: Of cheese do you want? And he turns around and

898
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: he looks at me and he goes provalon.

899
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: So I think he ordered a specific cheese just to

900
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: get a rise out of me.

901
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: And then he took a sandwich and he went home.

902
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: This is how it works. I got a text from somebody.

903
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: It's the coach for the Golden State.

904
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: Warriors and Steve Kerr comes on and goes, I can't

905
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: wait to watch Joe Flacco start this week for the Colds.

906
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: So now I got Steve Kerr doing SVP on the air.

907
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: It was ridicuous.

908
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about how we had SVP and he

909
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: came off the beach.

910
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: Was he in Ocean City at the time or he

911
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: was down to Ocean the ocean for sure. Thank you

912
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: so much for your question.

913
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: Oh, we've got a good Counsel graduate coming up from

914
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: Montgomery County, another.

915
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: Moco guy, Stefan Diggs, went to Good Council. Yes on Diggs.

916
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 12: I'm Danny, a freshman and a Good Council graduate. And

917
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 12: I guess my question for you guys is what's the

918
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 12: best ballpark food that you guys have I had the

919
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 12: chance to try?

920
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: All right, First off, I get asked this a lot,

921
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: and I eat in the press box all the time.

922
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: I don't go down into the crowd because.

923
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: They have press box food for us. So I'll just

924
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: I'll have to answer with the best press box food

925
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: I've ever had.

926
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 4: And I've been to the concession stand.

927
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 3: There is the broad worst in Milwaukee with the secret sauce,

928
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 3: and they used to serve those in the press box

929
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: during the game, and occasionally I would eat four brought

930
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: worst during the course of a game, and I weigh

931
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty pounds, so it just tells you

932
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: how great they were.

933
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: How about you a Dodger dog. I think some people

934
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: think it's overrated. I think it is rated perfectly. It

935
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: is famous, it is delicious. It's hard to mess up

936
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: a hot dog. But something in Los Angeles they do differently.

937
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: Mine's got to be a Dodger dog.

938
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 13: My name is Ryan Martin. I'm a sophomore here. Thanks

939
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 13: so much for being here, Tim and Jeff. I wanted

940
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 13: to go back earlier when you were talking about asking

941
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 13: athletes questions, to take them out of the ballpark and

942
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 13: see what they're really like, Jeff said, Tim, for you

943
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 13: that was based on a bunch of years of really

944
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 13: getting to know this. But you have to start somewhere,

945
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 13: and you mentioned starting with Mark Hymen, our director of

946
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 13: the POVID Center in Baltimore.

947
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 4: With the Orioles.

948
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Do you have a story covering the Orioles Clubhouse where you.

949
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 13: Realize that they're just a twenty something year old athlete,

950
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 13: just as you are a young reporter covering that made

951
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 13: you rethink how athletes really are and trying to get

952
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 13: that deeper story.

953
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: That's a great question.

954
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, my answer to that question is not a good

955
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: one because I wrote a story on Rick Burlson.

956
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: In nineteen eighty seven.

957
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: He was the second baseman and he shared the job

958
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 3: with Alan Wiggins, and those two didn't get along. So

959
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: he tore into Alan Wiggins so badly in this story.

960
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: And I wrote every word of it, and I wrote

961
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: it correctly. And then he looks at me and he goes, now,

962
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: don't play this like, don't make a big deal out

963
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: of this story. And I had to tell him, Rick,

964
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: I can't help it. I'm gonna send this in and

965
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna play it like they play it. So the

966
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: next night I go to the ballpark, as I go

967
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: to the ballpark every day.

968
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: Good lesson.

969
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 3: When you're critical of anybody, you have to show up

970
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: the next day. So if they have something to say

971
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: to you, you're standing right there. The worst thing you

972
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: can do is write something really critical and then not

973
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: show up for two weeks or a month.

974
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 4: Then you're really in trouble.

975
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 3: Rick Burlson screamed at me so loud, for two minutes

976
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: because he didn't like the way that our story made

977
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: a big deal out of his comments. They were inflammatory comments.

978
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: They deserve to be on the front page of the

979
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: sports section. And he absolutely crushed me with everybody watching.

980
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna hit me. I did and

981
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: he didn't, thank God. And I've since had a discussion

982
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: with him about that. And I'll never forget this either.

983
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: Mike Flanning in the Late Great Mike Flanning. After it

984
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: was all over, he just walked by me.

985
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: And he said, are you okay? That's what he said.

986
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: A player said that to a writer. That never happens.

987
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: But he saw what happened. He recognized what was going on.

988
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: He recognized it.

989
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 4: Was probably way over the top.

990
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: But that's a moment where I'll never forget in the clubhouse,

991
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: even though I would love to forget that, but that's

992
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: gonna happen to you once in a while. If you're

993
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: write something, as long as it's fair and as long

994
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: as it's accurate, you really shouldn't have much to worry about.

995
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: But boy, did he scream at me.

996
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 9: My name is Michael. I am a junior here also

997
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 9: a good council graduate.

998
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, another Montgomery County.

999
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 9: Yes, I wanted to ask about the late Pete Rose.

1000
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 9: Even with his passing, he's still ineligible for the Hall

1001
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 9: of Fame due to being on that permanently ineligible list

1002
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 9: with players like Pete. And then also you can throw

1003
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 9: in shoeless Joe Jackson. Do you think that that should

1004
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 9: extend past their death or that do they have a

1005
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 9: spot in the Hall of Fame.

1006
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: So many years ago, probably fifteen years ago, I was

1007
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: asked on Sports Center would you vote for Pete Rose

1008
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: for the Hall of Fame if he were eligible? And

1009
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: with great hesitation, I said, yes, I would vote for him,

1010
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: because I would be voting for him as a player,

1011
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: not as a manager, and all the violations that we

1012
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: seem to know are him as a manager. So I

1013
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: say this on SportsCenter Frank Robinson I see the next

1014
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: day and he screams at me. And I know Frank

1015
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 3: Robinson and he knows me. We get along, and I

1016
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: finally said, Frank, what are you.

1017
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 4: So mad about?

1018
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: And he said, you said that you would put Pete

1019
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: Rose in the Hall of Fame. He said he violated

1020
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: the number one rule.

1021
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 4: You do not bet on baseball.

1022
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: And he said if he ever gets in the Hall

1023
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: of Fame, I will never go back to the Hall

1024
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: of Fame for any reason. And Frank really loved Pete

1025
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: as a player, but talked about the violation that he made.

1026
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: So the answer to the question is, I don't see

1027
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: Pete Rose getting in the Hall of Fame anytime soon.

1028
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: Rob Manford, the commissioner has to leave and a new

1029
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: commissioner has to come in and say we're going to

1030
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: reopen this. But then it's still going to be up

1031
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame to decide if Pete Rose

1032
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: is going to be on a ballot.

1033
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 4: They're not just going to put him in.

1034
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: He has to go through the process of being on

1035
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: about I get asked this question every single time I

1036
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: ever make a speech. It's usually one of the first

1037
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: five questions I get asked, And now that he has passed,

1038
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: it gets asked.

1039
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: Even more so.

1040
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: It's timing as a player was impeccable. His timing in

1041
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: retirement has been terrible, and that's I think going to

1042
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: keep him out of the Hall of Fame for quite

1043
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: some time. But they never took his hits away, they

1044
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: never took his records away, and everybody knows he's one

1045
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: of the greatest players.

1046
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 4: Of all time.

1047
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, my name is Justin Corman. I'm a freshman

1048
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 10: here at Maryland. Thank you guys for doing this. Of course,

1049
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 10: being a Marlins fan I'm from Miami can be rough

1050
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 10: at some times. I would love to know your guys'

1051
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 10: opinion on how do you think smaller market teams just

1052
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 10: like the Marlins can compete with the Dodgers, the Yankees,

1053
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 10: these bigger market teams, and do you think that might

1054
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 10: be should implement a salary cap?

1055
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: Right, Jeff, you take this because you lived in Cleveland

1056
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: for a while, so you watched it.

1057
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: I think it's tough, especially with this past World series.

1058
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: Right of people were turned off with when it comes

1059
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: to Wow, look at how much money these guys are spending.

1060
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: When when you're reading things like wow, three guys and

1061
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: the Yankees are making more money than the entire Cleveland roster.

1062
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Has made this year.

1063
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 2: So when you think about that, it does make an argument,

1064
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: and it does make it difficult, and fans are turned

1065
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: off when you're a fan of a team that doesn't

1066
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: spend a lot of money. But when you see movies

1067
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: like Moneyball, as silly as it sounds. There's an art

1068
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: form when it comes to being able to work with

1069
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: what you've got. And there's also a big part of

1070
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: this is just because you have a lot of money,

1071
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean the players are going to get along

1072
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: with each other. You know, you can bring in all

1073
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: the best guys, but if you have too many stars, respectfully,

1074
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: and you've got too many egos, one hundred and sixty

1075
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: two games is a long year. You can't just sit

1076
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: your guys and say, all right, now it's your time

1077
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: to shine. So living in Cleveland, it was really neat

1078
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: to be able to see how they were able to

1079
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: lose Francisco Lindor their star and be able to make

1080
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: up for it with guys in and around them.

1081
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, baseball is not going to have a salary cap

1082
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: for a long long time. This is why we've had workstoppages,

1083
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: why we've had strikes, and it's because the union is

1084
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 3: saying we are not going to put in something artificial

1085
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: like that that is going to suppress salaries. But it's

1086
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: clear that the system is broken that some team can

1087
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: have a three hundred and fifty million dollars payroll and

1088
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: another team has a fifty million dollars payroll. There's something

1089
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: wrong with that.

1090
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 14: Daniel Stein a sophomore here and I'm from Chicago, So

1091
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 14: between the Cubs and the Bears and the Bulls, it's

1092
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 14: been kind of a rough go lately. So my question

1093
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 14: for you guys is, when you're reporting on underperforming teams,

1094
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 14: how do you balance talking about maybe like a reflection

1095
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 14: of frustration from the fans or the team itself, and

1096
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 14: how do you balance that with more lighter stories and

1097
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 14: things that aren't so depressing.

1098
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: Basically, just be happy you're not a White Sox fan.

1099
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: At least you're a Cubs fan.

1100
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's.

1101
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: Really hard to do now. I covered the Orioles in

1102
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight for the Baltimore Sun, and of course,

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Speaker 3: if you remember, they lost their first twenty one game,

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Speaker 3: So that was a challenge of all challenges to write

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Speaker 3: about twenty one consecutive losses, which demolished the previous record

1106
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: of fourteen straight losses to start a season. So we

1107
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 3: needed to keep our sense of humor through that at

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00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: the same time acknowledging that this has never happened in

1109
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: the history of baseball.

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Speaker 4: So after loss.

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Speaker 3: Number eighteen, Frank Robinson, who Mark news so well. Frank

1112
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: invites the writers to go out to dinner in Minneapolis,

1113
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: as it never happened before, never happened afterwards.

1114
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 4: I think he just needed.

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Speaker 3: Some support from somebody. So we're about halfway through dinner

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Speaker 3: and I say to Frank, who was a big kidder

1117
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: by the way, I said, Frank, anyone interesting called you

1118
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: during this streak you're oh in eighteen and he goes, yeah,

1119
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: the President called me today. So I said, Frank, I

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00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: mean it, did anyone interesting call you recently?

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00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 4: And I pressed him like three times and he.

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00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: Said, damn it, the President of the United States called

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Speaker 3: me today.

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Speaker 4: I said, Frank, what did he say?

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Speaker 3: He said, Frank, I know what you're going through. And

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Speaker 3: Frank said, mister President, you got.

1127
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 4: No idea what I'm going through.

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Speaker 3: So that's the only way to get through difficult spots

1129
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: like that. You have to enter the clubhouse every day

1130
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 3: knowing they don't want to talk to me today because

1131
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 3: of the history that they're making. Scott McGregor, who Mark

1132
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: knows very well, he came up to me once after

1133
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 3: fourteen in a row because now all the national media

1134
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: is there, and he says, why don't these people just

1135
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: go home.

1136
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: I said, Scotty, you just got to win one game

1137
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 4: and they'll all go home. So that was a great

1138
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: test for a writer like myself to try.

1139
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 3: To tell the story every day, ask similar questions every day,

1140
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: and do it without having somebody take a swing at me.

1141
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: But you got to report the truth. You got to

1142
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: tell the truth.

1143
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: You got to be fair and accurate. As long as

1144
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: you do that, you'll be fine. But yes, some humor

1145
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: has to be involved.

1146
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 6: Hey guys, I'm Jake Cotter. I'm a sophomore here at Maryland.

1147
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 6: I was just wondering. So I was lucky enough to

1148
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 6: have the experience to attend some MLB games as a

1149
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 6: press member myself over the summer. I know, especially early on,

1150
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 6: my sports editor helped me a lot, figuring out all

1151
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 6: the intricacies, introducing me to other press members. Just tim,

1152
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 6: did you have a mentor early on like that in

1153
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 6: your career who helped you out?

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00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 10: Uh?

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00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had several.

1156
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: But Dan Shaughnessy, who works for the Boston Globe and

1157
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: it's the best daily comments in America as far as

1158
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: I'm concerned, and a Hall of Fame baseball writer, was

1159
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: the baseball writer at the Washington Star when I first

1160
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 3: joined there in nineteen seventy eight, and I already told

1161
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: you have to do things your way because the only

1162
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 3: thing that separates you from everyone else is you. But

1163
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: you can watch the way the pros do it. And

1164
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: the greatest experience I've ever had was going to work

1165
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: at the Washington Star and watching those reporters work. I

1166
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: listened to the questions they asked.

1167
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 4: I watched the way that they wrote their story.

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00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: I would go to a game with Dan Shaughnessy and

1169
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: I would cover the same game as him, but his

1170
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: story went in the paper, and I would go home

1171
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: afterwards and write the same story based on everything that

1172
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: he had said.

1173
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 4: I just tagged around.

1174
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: With him, and I had a completely different story, and

1175
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 3: his story was way better than mine. So I watched

1176
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: and I learned. I watched and I learned, and from

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00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: that that experience is absolutely critical. What you're doing here

1178
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: at Maryland is absolutely crucial to you moving forward, But

1179
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 3: when you get out there, you need to watch the

1180
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: way that other people do their jobs. We had a

1181
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 3: guy named Steve Guback who was our football writer at

1182
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: the Washington Star, so I asked him. I covered a

1183
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: game with him a couple times. I did like a

1184
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 3: sidebar he wrote the game story. So I said, Steve,

1185
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: do you want to go eat lunch before the game

1186
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: and he goes, oh, I don't eat on game days.

1187
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: That's how Tedsi was.

1188
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: I don't eat on game days.

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00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: And after the game is almost over, so we're all

1190
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: getting together to determine and who's going to write what

1191
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: story afterwards? And he said, I'll cover the people like

1192
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: I'll talk to everyone. Like you guys do whatever you want,

1193
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: but I'm talking to everyone on the team. We were

1194
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: wondering what should we interview the helmets or what because

1195
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: you're talking to all the people. But yeah, there's an

1196
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: intensity to it and you can learn an awful lot

1197
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: just by watching the pros do their jobs.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm Eddie.

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Speaker 5: I'm a junior here at Maryland, and my question is

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Speaker 5: on we've talked a lot about the international presence coming

1201
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 5: to baseball. Show you a tiny big part of the

1202
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 5: World Series. There were a lot of broadcasts that outdrew

1203
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 5: audience from Japan into the US. What are your thoughts

1204
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 5: on just the growing worldwide? And they were handing out

1205
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 5: newspapers of his face that did not happen here. So

1206
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 5: what is just what do you think of the presence?

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Speaker 3: Well, sadly, I've never been to Japan, but a bunch

1208
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 3: of my friends have, and they say, it's so crazy

1209
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: for baseball.

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Speaker 4: You have no idea.

1211
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 3: Bobby Valentine told me we had him on our pod.

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Speaker 3: He told me twenty years ago that every everyday player

1213
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: in Japan could make a major league team. So if

1214
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Speaker 3: anyone questions how good they play the game, how well

1215
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: they play the game over there, they play it exceptionally well. Now,

1216
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: shohe is an outlier, Yamamoto is an outlier. Each Ro

1217
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 3: Suzuki was an outlier. However, there are so many good

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00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: players over there, and their love of baseball is bigger

1219
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: than the love that we have here.

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Speaker 4: There was some ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Number nine point five million people watch Game one of

1222
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: the world's here a Game two. Because Yamamoto and Otani

1223
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 3: we're in it. We can learn a lesson from the

1224
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 3: Japanese about how you support the game, how you love

1225
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 4: And Bobby Valentine said an interesting thing, Jeff, when.

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Speaker 3: We interviewed him about why don't more people come over

1228
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 3: here and play?

1229
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: He said, what did he say? You remember he said,

1230
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Speaker 4: why would they?

1231
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Speaker 2: Why would they? I mean, they're stars there, right, And

1232
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Speaker 2: have you seen the videos of a high school baseball

1233
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: game in Japan. I've never seen a I mean, you

1234
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 2: see high school football games here in Texas and they're unbelievable. Right,

1235
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: Why would you go to Japan to play football? Why

1236
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: would you go to the.

1237
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: United States to play baseball?

1238
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is amazing, of course, but when you

1239
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: see those high school Japanese games and they're in Major

1240
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: League Baseball sized stadiums, they clearly love the game.

1241
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: And these guys say, maybe I don't want to go

1242
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: over there.

1243
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Speaker 12: Right.

1244
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Speaker 3: They are so revered over there, they get paid exceptionally

1245
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: well over there. So again that's what Bobby said, Why

1246
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: would you leave? Will you leave so you can be

1247
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 3: Shohei Otani and win the World Baseball class by striking

1248
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: out Mike Drout and then win the World Series in

1249
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: a two year paid.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all so much.

1251
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: Thank you to the Shirley Povit Center for Sports Journalism.

1252
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for setting us up and now officially

1253
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 2: you're part of the family.

1254
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: So thank you for being a part of the family.

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00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Go to it