1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast has stared long into the abyss. 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: a room teeming with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Colleen 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: Wolf and Greg Rosental. What's up people, Hey Dan whoa 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: big room. Happen to be back under the weather you 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: guys alluded to I believe on Monday show. Well, we 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: wish you well and you seem to be uh in better. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm back health spirits. You sounded look great. Thank you 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: as to you. You look great in a professional way. 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: I think that you look very well. Um, that was 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: wet to our show. I missed it. I was very ill. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I had a stomach but this would not have healed 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: you and I know, like I just want to say 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: real quick, Um, a lot of a lot of us 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: have kids in this room. At least sixty of us 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: nailed it. Um that we have a lot of younger listeners. 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Greg right, demographic is mail young. Yeah. We we would 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: like that to expand. So tell all your lady friends 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: in your life about the show. Please. We're looking to 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: build on that lady demographic. Mark All your old friends, 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 1: we want some of them. But no, if you haven't 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: started a family yet, you haven't had kids. I want 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: you to know that they are transformative in your life 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: and what they can do, and they're beautiful and there's 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: nothing better than bringing children to the world and living 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: with them. But you have to understand that they are 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: agents of disease and filth. Yeah, there they are germ 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: backpacks roaming around your house, and if you touch a child, 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: you will gain whatever illness they have quickly input in 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: an adult version. Agents of chaos, I would say too, 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: as well as that, but that could be explained by 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: their brains are developing. The filth angle is the one 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: that really gets to me because, for instance, we're at 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the restaurant yesterday we finally got out of the house 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: as group because my parents are in town too. They 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: also fell ill because of this bug that went around, 38 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: and I look over and my three year old is 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: putting his mouth on the actual chair of the restaurant, 40 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: and then you know, then you'll see the one year 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: old laying on the ground face down or picking up 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: food that's not his and you just think, if everyone 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: in the world live like this, the humanity would be 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: wiped out in a Fortnite. This, this whole talk reminds 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: me of an article I saw this week in the 46 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: New York Times, and for the first time ever, American 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: families are preferring daughters over sons. And I think that's 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: what you're I haven't seen both. Yeah, I can. I 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: can understand, especially multiple boys, the filth. You know, you're 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: not seeing girls eating eating chairs. Counterpart, it's just not 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: happening as much. It's it's not it's a weird thing. 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: It's genetic. You just have to look at what's happening. 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: They're not. They're never the ones at the park like 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: eating like paste and knocking their head against the wall. 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: I do this though, right. Counterpoint, Yes, if if we 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: were to start doing more of this instead of the 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: helicopter parents protecting their kids from ever having access to 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: any germ whatsoever, you would have better defenses in order 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: to handle these diseases. Or an argument, there's right there, 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: West comes a value with some high octane parenting. That's 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: that's West in a nutshell. Mark, And I'm nervous because 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: Mark's waving a paper in his face. You have the vapor. 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, I was home this morning 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: with a lot of news breaking, but my child Coulton 65 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: was on the couch next to me wanting to play, uh, 66 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, and he's home with a deep fever and 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: various other ailments. So I feel like it's it's heading 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: my way. Young listeners, many male. I'm not saying don't 69 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: start a family, but take all of this into account 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: before you make a decision that goes for you, Colleen, 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: as well as West taking all the notes, taking it 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: all in. What's that? By the way, West doesn't have 73 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: a chance because we know the paramore is laying on 74 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the heat and all sorts. There will be children louding 75 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: that it's just a matter of time now. But that's 76 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: a whole different podcast, save for the West's freedom is 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: about to be revoked podcast. I would I would just 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: make the point that you know, for many hundreds of 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: thousands of years, counterpoint, many hundreds of thousands of years 80 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: women have continued to have children despite having to go 81 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: through pregnancy, so it's obviously worth it. Well, that's good, 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: less again, less on fire. Um, Yes, welcome to you 83 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast. We're all together and that's great, 84 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: and we have a lot to get to big news 85 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: out of the Pacific Northwest, Mark little heads up for you, 86 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: but region uh, Seattle is in uh, and we're gonna 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: talk about what's going on there. Also, uh oh yeah, 88 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: free agency. The legal tampering period the stupidest thing, stupidest 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: phrase in professional sports. The legal tampering period begins on Monday, 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: I believe, the twelfth of March. So before that period hits, 91 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little pressure points. Who's feeling the pressure, 92 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: who's got a lot riding on? How next week and 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: the weeks to follow play out. Uh, really about a 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: little bit of job security. I'm not saying hot butts, Greg, 95 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm not talking hot butt here, but I'm saying pressure. 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: RG three once said pressure makes diamonds. No pressure, no diamonds. 97 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: Greg's up created the phrase something you can put on 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: a bump or sticker. Probably Argie three s all right, 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: let's let's start, y'all. Let's get into it, though, and 100 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: start with some news. And that's where he got about 101 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: the ball. It's okay. Yes. The dulcet tones of Richard Sherman, 102 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: the former fifth round pick who became a franchise franchise 103 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: icon for the Seattle Seahawks, and now it appears that 104 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: that um bonds through it's been broken the Richard Sherman 105 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: reported by rap Sheet on Wednesday at Sherman doesn't plan 106 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: to be with the Seahawks in Sherman told teammates goodbye 107 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: over the past twenty four hours and he won't be 108 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: with a team the season. According to sources, UH West 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: will start with you on this one, rapp report ed, 110 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: and nothing is set in stone, but according to those 111 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: close to him, there has been no official announcement. Are 112 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: you surprised by this news. I'm not surprised because I 113 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: read Mike Silver's article in December about the changing of 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: the Guard in the NFC West, in which he foreshadowed 115 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: or essentially reported at the time that the legion of 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: Boom Boom would be no more after this offseason. That 117 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: Sherman has due eleven million dollars. He's now coming off 118 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: of uh surgeries on both achilles tendons that did not 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 1: bode well for for him. Uh. Yeah, this, this whole, 120 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: the whole legion of Boom Boom is being blown up 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: and they're building around Bobby Wagner. Now it sounds like 122 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: the official word will come sooner than later because they 123 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: need to get his salary off the book. So as 124 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: we tape this, he has not been officially released. But 125 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: what raps He indicated on our network was that this 126 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: isn't a a scenario where they're gonna troll around for 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: some trades. I think they recognize he doesn't really have 128 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: any trade value because he's not healthy and because of 129 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: that salary, and it sounds like he'll be released, and 130 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: rap Sheet thought he might not even be able to 131 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: get a job until June July, sometime in the summer 132 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: when he is health. I mean, he was in a 133 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: walking boot just a couple of weeks ago, if if 134 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: not in days. And to your point, West you said 135 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: he I mean to have Achilles and major ruptured Achilles 136 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: and then had your other Achilles tweaked through an operation. 137 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I think back to when Michael Crabtree came back from 138 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: an Achilles, and these two are not friends, but it 139 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't be terrible for him to have a phone call 140 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: with Michael Crabtree about how tough. I don't think it's 141 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna you don't think that's gonna happen. Probably not, But 142 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you you can't trade for him because 143 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get any sort of um upgraded speed 144 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: version of Richard Sherman maybe for two seasons and then 145 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: he's something. Yeah, he's got a nice healthy salary right now, 146 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: and you have to see how he's gonna be healthy. 147 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: So that makes sense why they're the timing nature could 148 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: take a while, and yeah, maybe this is, uh, Connie, 149 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: the end of the legion of boom with Richard Sherman gone, 150 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor probably gone, uh and Earl Thomas probably back, 151 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: but still it's not the same team and Cliff, yeah, 152 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: who's dealing with the neck injury. And you look at 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: just the amazing change is that they've gone through and 154 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: they bring in and they have a new offensive coordinator, 155 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator. You have Brian Schottenheimer and Ken 156 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Norton Jr. In there, and this whole entire legion of Boom, 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: which this team was known for the defense, so much 158 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: is changing there. I think it's the right move. By 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: the way, what do you think, Greg, because like and 160 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: I I I said it in the podcast last season, 161 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I thought the game and it was December seventeen when 162 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: they went down thirty four nothing at the half at 163 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: home to the Ram and they and it was because 164 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just and and Seahawks Sands got passed. 165 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, we're beat up, we're injury. Well, that's 166 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: part of it, you guys. This unit was together for five, six, 167 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: seven years, and part of that is you start to 168 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: break down physically, Guys leaving free agency, guys age out 169 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: of their prime, and it just felt like the ending 170 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: of something. And I think Seattle, to their credit, I 171 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: think they're trying to be ahead of the ball here, 172 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: not hanging on one year too long. I think it 173 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: is absolutely the right move with that salary, and it's 174 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: the time to do it. And you get the sense 175 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was kind of ready to press the reset button. 176 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Sermons turning thirty. He's coming off a good season, 177 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: but he's not the same level of dominant player that 178 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: he was before. And I don't necessarily think that they 179 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: are going to just go in the tank. They have 180 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: enough players there and a good coaching staff and a 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: great quarterback that they can get it back pretty quickly. 182 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: But they had to make it. I mean, it's it's rare, 183 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: Like you look at Arizona and Steve Kim is going 184 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: to get an opportunity to rebuild parts of that parts 185 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: of that team again, but arians isn't with them. How rare? 186 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: How often is it you get the same coach and 187 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: same GM who get a chance to develop essentially a 188 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: completely second era in Seattle, And John Snyder is the 189 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: guy we'd have to trust to be able to do it. 190 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: They played this thing out. I wrote an article three 191 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: years ago about how their Super Bowl window is gonna 192 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: last forever whatever, but that a five year run for 193 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: a defense is forever. I mean they were wrong though, 194 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: Well I didn't stay forever, and I said it was 195 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: wide open, and I know that. And they actually had 196 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: all these guys who were under contract for three more years, 197 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: and like their their defense was together for about five 198 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: years since Michael Bennett and Avril were signed, and Sherman 199 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: and Thomas really set the foundation when they were drafted 200 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: much before that. So they had a long run. They 201 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: played it out as long as they could. They had 202 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: the longest run of number one defenses and points allowed 203 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: in NFL history. You look at great defenses, they usually 204 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: only last a year or two. It's not like the 205 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Ravens lasted at that level, or the Bucks or even 206 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: the Broncos a couple of years. What a great run 207 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: though for Richard. If this is the end of Sherman 208 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: and Seattle, he's a legend there. Nothing will ever take 209 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: away the fact that he was kind of like, I know, 210 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: you could say there are players that were better than 211 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: him on that defense, but to me, he was kind 212 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: of the face of it because he was the brash guy, 213 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: the one that got in Tom Brady's face. He announced 214 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the start of this whole run with you, Matt. Now 215 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, that's a great call. I think 216 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: he was the kind of the face of all this, 217 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: and you send the face away and things change. Now. 218 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: Bro also one of the savvy ist and I don't 219 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: mean this is a shot, but with the savviest self promoters. 220 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: At a time when Twitter and social media was all 221 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: sort of blowing up at once, he had family members 222 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: creating issues with radio stations and TV outlets, he suddenly 223 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: was doing the rounds. He came on us, and he 224 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: said when he came on with you and I and 225 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: we were a little intimidated because we had been in 226 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: the process of writing forty or fifty, Like I'm so 227 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: tired of hearing Richard Sherman squawk at this player. And 228 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I've read everything that you two wrote, 229 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and I thought this interview is going to go absolutely 230 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: awfully and it went fine. He was cool, and uh, Connie, 231 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: that's what a Stanford education will buy you. Yep, that's right. Hey. 232 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of Seahawks players that are moving on, Michael Bennett 233 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: is no more class act that Michael Bennett. He was 234 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: traded to Connie's Philadelphia Eagles, uh in exchange for a 235 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: fifth round pick and Marcus Johnson being sent to Seattle 236 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: a seventh round pick also being sent to Philadelphia in 237 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: addition to Michael Bennett. What do you think about this, 238 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,479 Speaker 1: Connie and nice pick up? Howie Roseman, he's he saw 239 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: saw the light with the Super Bowl. Now he's like, 240 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm still in we still have to be aggressive. And 241 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean we heard about the Eagles looking to trade 242 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Vinny Curry, so this makes some some sense there. But 243 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, I mean, he's been really good for the 244 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, but thirty three, he dealt with knee and 245 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: foot injuries last year. I like the move, but I 246 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm a little I'm just a little hesitant 247 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: about it. Boy, you're still skeptical of Howie. Why didn't 248 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: give up much? What do they have to do when 249 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: a super Bowl with Nate Sunfeld for you to get 250 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: salary is not too prohibitive. He's got three more years 251 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: on the deal, is he. I mean, he talks a 252 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,239 Speaker 1: lot and he's getting older. Maybe that's not a great combination. 253 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: I honestly think he will be a good fit in 254 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: that locker room. I mean, you have you can handle 255 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: a guy like Marty Bennett. I don't think that'll be 256 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: And if he became one of those teams handle Michael 257 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: Bennett personality right, And if you have him and Fletcher 258 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: Cox inside and then Derek Barnett and Brandon Graham outside. 259 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean that now you feel good you're talking about 260 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: all right? Twist my arm? Yeah, Greg's actually mad at you. 261 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: It's the Super Bowl fifty two fallout. No, No, I'm 262 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I love, I love I have. I think 263 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: the Eagles front office deserves uh some credit and deserves 264 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: a wide birth here that they're gonna be making smart, 265 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: aggressive moves and it's gonna pay out, and it makes 266 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me because they're gonna lose 267 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: bo Allen, who's a backup defensive tackle who was you contributed, 268 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose Vinnie Curry, and bet It can play 269 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: in both of those positions, and I think he'll benefit 270 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: like Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham from not having to 271 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: play every down. I mean, he's gonna be a part 272 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: time player there. You can keep healthy fo five hundred 273 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: snaps and then you really unleash him in the plan. 274 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: They're about ten million over the cap right now, so 275 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: that those players you mentioned Bennie Curry that he might 276 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: not be the only one that they're gonna have to 277 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: get rid of people or Smith to be gone. When 278 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: I think back to the Dream Team, which became this 279 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: thing that everyone made fun of for Howie Rosen because 280 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: it didn't work. It just flat out it wasn't. His 281 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: phrase was last guy you should have been saying any 282 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: right but area. But Howee Roseman has always been very aggressive, 283 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and it came during a time when free agency where 284 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: it was like, okay, you over extended the way that 285 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: we look at the Dolphins on some level, But now 286 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: it's shifting over and Gregg's written about this and then 287 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: everyone knows where at this point the trades are growing. 288 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: How rose you here, you hear a little, you hear 289 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: the trade tsunami, it's coming there, it is. It's watch 290 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: it along the shore. That's Gregg's still a week away 291 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: to really hit. I didn't start on the winds are 292 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: starting to thread shot. I don't know if I'm ready 293 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: for Greg to be prepping his own drops. Like thirty 294 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: minutes before this show. It's like someone tweet about I 295 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, we gotta get ready. I'm flying. 296 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: The first thing I thought of what this trade was 297 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: when Michael Bennett first got to Seattle along with Cliff Avril. 298 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: It was because of the competitive advantage of paying peanuts 299 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: for their quarterback. And now the Eagles are paying peanuts 300 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: for their quarterback and you're able to do things like this. 301 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to push some money around with the 302 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: salary cap. But but still, if Carson Wentz was making 303 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: twenty million a year, you could not make this trade. 304 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: Then it's making half as much as Vinny Curry. I mean, 305 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: he's only due five point six million. I think that's 306 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: why they were able to trade him versus uh Richard Sherman, 307 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: who you're not gonna be able to trade because his 308 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: salary is very reasonable for what he can get. Big 309 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: changes mark where all over the league, well specifically Insami, 310 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: Pacific North Northwest. Also, this is broadcasting, man, you tie 311 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: it up. When I said all around the league, that 312 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: was accurate. It's it's ironic though, because because there was 313 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: that article in The New Yorker last year where I 314 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: think they wrote about a tsunami might be coming for 315 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: the might be coming for Seattle. This is the new 316 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: I like it. It's yeah, it's acceptable. I think maybe 317 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: Greg thought, well, Dan could die potentially with the stomach bug. 318 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: I need to slide in and pick up back in 319 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: the old dropped up. He's wearing his new Puma jacket, 320 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: feeling good about and old the one that like to 321 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: break out, right, did you have some type of digget 322 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: made you want to throw out? You can? They had 323 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: some lined up and they kind of interrupted you. WHOA, 324 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I welcome it. What breaking news. That's his college. This 325 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: is for ESPNS Adam Schefter. Shortly after the Rams extended 326 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: alec Ogletree. They're sending into the New York Giants for 327 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: two eighteen draft picks. First in a second Mark I believe. 328 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: I was like, what it's like, how do I top 329 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: West's announcement? Wow? So there you go. What are your 330 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: thoughts on that move? West? I'm shocked they just they 331 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: just signed him to a new deal. And it's not 332 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: like they have a new regime in place since they 333 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: signed him to a new deal. It's the But the 334 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: Giants have needed linebackers what forever, but now the Rams 335 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: do as well. We'll talk about the tsunami hitting. This 336 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: is this is some next level stuff here by less 337 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: need because you met you said it. This is some 338 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: that you cat. You see this sort of thing occasionally 339 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: in baseball or the NBA. You never see it in 340 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: the NFL, where they essentially signed Ogletree to a long 341 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: term contract, but immediately they already were thinking that, okay, 342 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: this is a tradeable asset. Even though of course they 343 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: liked him and want him long term or would have 344 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: been fine with him long term. There's no way they 345 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: would have made that move otherwise. He was playing very 346 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: well after that trade, not that there was much time 347 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: after that trade. I think it was in December, wasn't it. 348 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: I think they're getting rid of the people who aren't 349 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: perfect fits. For Wade Phillips defense. But why did you 350 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: give it? But they gave him that contract in the 351 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: first place. I think it's maybe first of all, the 352 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Giants called or that there's some teams were interested, and 353 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: they just decided, okay, we want to prioritize Mark Barron, 354 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: who was maybe going to be a cut candidate if 355 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: if not, or they just decided, hey, we can move 356 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: and we want some draft picks, like we're flexible. Some 357 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: interesting linebackers in this draft. Amazing Mark, yes, percific Northwest, 358 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: but looks there within seconds. I am accurate. The contract 359 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: was signed in October to be clear, maybe they did 360 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: rethink his fit in Wade Phillips content defense. Their run 361 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: defense could have been quite a bit better last year. 362 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: Rap Sheet for what It's worth has confirmed this report. 363 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: The Giants just one quick that's worth a lot in 364 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: this company, the Giants. We did NFC needs this week, 365 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: kind of a you know, maybe meeting potatoes articles both 366 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: West and I. Yeah, you know, it's something you get, donection. 367 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: The Giants linebackers have been one of the worst positions 368 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: in football year after year. Like if you write these 369 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: needs articles a year after year, I've put Giants linebacker 370 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: as like their number one need for five. It does 371 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: feel like since we beat the company they they've they've 372 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: had terrible linebackers. So makes not into Calvin Munson? I see, 373 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: did you make that name the legal expert on? Yes, 374 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: there will linebacker Calvin Munson not Maybe I think part 375 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: of the ESPN layoffs. Calvin. He was then quickly found 376 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: new work. What about Gabe the two lane crad that's 377 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: our legal guy. Loved Gabe. He's still in the mix, 378 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: Gabe Feldon. Gabe Feldon is he on their depth chart? 379 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: Don't see him? You know he could be. He could 380 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: be behind this Calvin Munson character. So, uh, let's move on. 381 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: The Steelers used their exclusive franchise tag on Lady and 382 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Bell that is worth fourteen point five million? Did was 383 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: this official on Monday Show? I don't know. Salary cap, dude, 384 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: go up? That happen yesterday? Yeah, about nine million bucks? 385 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: I think it's at one seventies seven now that's correct. Okay. Anyway, Uh, 386 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: Leby on Bell has been tagged, So there you go. 387 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: Fourteen point five there's the Uh, we're a baseline for 388 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: any type of long term contract talks. But who knows 389 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: if the Steelers are interested in that. Maybe he'll play 390 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: on the tag, Maybe he'll he'll cause a big fit 391 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: greg And and say, I'm not even gonna play this season, 392 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: but you probably won't see him until preseason. At the 393 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: soonest I thought it was interesting. Adita Addi Kinko Wala, 394 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: who's kind of like the Woodward and Bernstein of the 395 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: Levy on Bell situation, thought that this both of them, 396 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: this hold out. Yeah, she takes both roles. Wow, that's 397 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. I don't know what is the difference between 398 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: the two when she kind of like the nebishy jew 399 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: and the others more like the party. There's a bit 400 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: of a meeting in dark parking garages. I just rewatched 401 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: that movie like it's a great movie. I think she's 402 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: meeting Steelers players personnel. She talked to a player who 403 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: thought that's essentially that he might skip a game or 404 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: two this year, that it might get a little uglier 405 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: than it than it was. I thought, Lindsay Rhodes, our 406 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: friend had a good idea about giving him the non 407 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: exclusive tag, where okay, let's say someone else blows him 408 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: away and they come up with a long term offer 409 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: that the Steelers don't want to match you've got two 410 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: number ones in return, or he finds out that the 411 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: market is not what he wants and the Steelers have 412 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: a chance to sign what would have been the worst 413 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: there if you've got two number ones in return for 414 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: Levy on belf another team got him. I think the 415 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: thing with lev like he's not a lot of backers 416 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: on that theory in this rep. Sorry, Lindsay, try to 417 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: help you out there. I don't know the team to 418 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: answer you. I don't know if a team I was 419 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: thinking about it, I don't. I didn't have a strong take, 420 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: but I don't think a team would give up to first. 421 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: That's so you're not gonna lose him, right, moving on? Well, wait, 422 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: hold on, he's not you know, he's not happy about this. 423 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: He actually told I don't know if you saw this. 424 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: He talked to Billboard, the magazine and said that he's 425 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: focused right now on dropping two or three more albums 426 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: in the off season. He's been in the studio with 427 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: some rappers I know you guys have heard of, and 428 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: he's had a bunch of I can't this is like 429 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: deep source information, like, oh, I can't say who he 430 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: was in the studio with you. Who are you? I 431 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: know you have the news you know? Wait, wow, this 432 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: summer of hip Hop with Colleen Walter Winter of hip Hop. 433 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: I guess between the Cardi b between your new drop, 434 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: this is something's like She's like, yeah, little Kim, that's 435 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: like the biggest compliment ever, like le Bell's talents behind 436 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: the mic um. I think you know, I'm okay, I'm 437 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: a little She's a colleague in that business. I want 438 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: to know now, I want to know how you know this? 439 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: And he's had a bunch of meetings with Capitol Records, 440 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: so you may or may not have signed with them. 441 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: Whoa Colleen is legitimately breaking rap news had to get 442 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: this in May or may not. I'm just saying I 443 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: can't wait till like I can't wait till Hot poaches 444 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: Colleen from our podcast that I could totally. Couldn't you 445 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: see her being kind of the hip hop inside her host? 446 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: That is totally While we're While we're on this topic, 447 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: like circling back to Michael Bennett the tweet that he 448 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: sent out with him in the Eagles Jersey. Did you 449 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: see that down out of tweet of himself in an 450 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Eagles Jersey and underneath it says free Meek Mill. So 451 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: he is on the free train and I love a 452 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: downtown Julie Brown for our generation. By the way, a 453 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: little bit of other Bennett brother news what you got 454 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: released by the Patriots minutes ago. More more. I was 455 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: absolutely correct when I said that the changes were not 456 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: exclusively to the Seahawks, but other teams around the NFL. 457 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna lock us in the studio. It's going to 458 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: be a seventeen hour podcast. It's like they're like desperately, 459 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: they need writers downstairs that turned out content. We're like, 460 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Colleen, like wrap what these guys doing? Moving on? 461 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: The rams made their decision. They have franchised a player. 462 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Oh do we have anything else to say about Bennett? 463 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: I don't want he He has said he wants to 464 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: play again. It's interesting that the Patriots, from what they 465 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: saw him, did not want to pay five or six 466 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: million or whatever he was on the hook for. Maybe 467 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: they were I wonder if they were waiting to see 468 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: where Gronk was gonna come down, and then once you 469 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: could see them resigning him for three million, they probably 470 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: just don't want to be paying him a lot. Well, 471 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: we'll get to it later. But they signed a raging 472 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: They picked up the option of a raging star on 473 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: their own roster. Maybe that's why this. We will get 474 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: to that in Odds and ends. It's coming up. Connie, 475 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: start warming up the box. The Rams made their decision 476 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: safety LaMarcus Joyner gets their franchise tag very publicly. Everyone 477 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: knew that they were trying to decide between Joiner or 478 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver Sammy Watkins. At first, Sammy Watkins, they were 479 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: leaning that way, and then they leaned back the other way, 480 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: went with Joyner, which means, uh, Sammy Watkins will hit 481 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: free agency. Uh and also going to market while we're here. 482 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, the Jacksonville Jaguars. I was prized by this. 483 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't have been, maybe I should have been 484 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: more plugged in. But when I saw it on the scroll, 485 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: when I watched Northeastern blow it in the CIA Finals 486 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: against the College of Charleston to to blow a chance 487 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: to get into March Madness, when I saw that in 488 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: the scroll, I said, Wow, I bet the Jets are 489 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: gonna go heavy after Allen Robinson. Those two wide receivers 490 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: on the market. Thoughts not about Northeastern tough loss. For that, 491 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I think it makes sense that they franchised Joiner instead 492 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: of Watkins just because the tag is a lot cheaper 493 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: for safeties um and also I think it might be 494 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult to replace Joiner than it 495 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: is to replace Watkins for the Rams. And then in 496 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: terms of Allen Robinson, I mean, he's still rehabbing from 497 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: that a c L So they didn't want to take 498 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: a chance with their one tag on a guy that's 499 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: not one. Jaguars also have one of these teams not 500 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: on like Seattle to Sun agree with They're going to 501 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: have waves of young players all come up for new 502 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: deals at the same time, players they want to keep, 503 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: and so they already have to make that prioritization. The 504 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 1: one thing I'd say about Watkins is there's a lot 505 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: of teams out there with a lot of cat money, 506 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 1: the Bears, Browns, Jets. Like you said, the Colt support 507 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: unders the need wide receivers. But do you really want 508 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: to go to your third team in twelve months or 509 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: would you rather where are you gonna succeed more than 510 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: in Seawan mcveigh's offense in Los Angeles, I would consider resigning. 511 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: Rap Sheet has emphasized that the Rams will aggressively pursue 512 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: a deal with Watkins before the start of free agency, 513 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars are supposed to do something similar with 514 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson. But I see I see Allen Robinson as 515 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: a guy who's going to get paid. There's gonna be 516 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: a lot of guys going after him, and I don't 517 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: think the Jaguars are gonna be able to match what 518 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna get. I I found that move. I was 519 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: surprised to dan and I I thought it was curious 520 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: because they've struggled to draft offensive players under David Caldwell, 521 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: and Robinson's one of their best draft picks that they've 522 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: had under David Caldwell. So a team that's spend so 523 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: much in free agency and brings all these guys in 524 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: letting one of their better picks go when you don't 525 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: really have I mean, you're gonna lose him. You're probably 526 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: gonna lose Marquis Lee. Blake Bordles is your quarterback. I mean, 527 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: that's a lot of questions about the passing game. I would, yeah, 528 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: I would want to keep him victories next season, and 529 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: they hope Sammy Watkins. I think will still get paid 530 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: even though he got under a hundred six hundred yards. 531 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: I think when a player is this close to free 532 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: agency and he's young, and he hasn't been productive in 533 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: a couple of years, but he was productive before that. 534 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: He's twenty four years old, teams are going. I mean, 535 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson closed out with four one hundred yard games 536 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: in the final six weeks and then all the chaos 537 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: happened from part of the chaos was he himself had 538 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: a horrible year. I still think teams are gonna He's 539 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna have He's gonna get paid. Uh. Finally in the news, 540 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller, we'll be back with Bears, maybe probably in 541 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: that zone. The team applied the transition tag to the 542 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: young cornerback. Rap Sheet reported this first. Uh. That means 543 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: that any team can match the Bears on an offer. Uh, 544 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: or excuse me, that means I'll tell you what it means. 545 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: All right, I'll get it. He is confused. He does 546 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: hit the open market. A team can make an offer, 547 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: but the Bears have the opportunity to match it. Or 548 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: is that restricted free? No, that's exactly right, they can 549 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: match that. That's exactly and and ultimately he has to 550 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: sign a contract with the new team, so he would, 551 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, go visit, sign something and then the Bears 552 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: get a chance to match it. I mean, this is 553 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: Chris Westling's prize, the free agency pick right here. He 554 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: loves some some Kyle Fuller and don't wearry west I've 555 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: talked to the shadowy league figures Kyle Fuller staying on 556 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: the top one of one free agents when you're transition tag, 557 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: that's like being a free agent. You can stay there. 558 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: He might wait and work his way up towards the 559 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: top of that list. I mean, I think too, like 560 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: he took such a step forward last year he was 561 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: still coming off that back surgery or the ex teen. 562 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: He just struggled, and so I felt like he they did, 563 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: the coaching staff did such a good job with him. 564 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: He improved so much. And then this way with the 565 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: transition tag, it allows them to possibly work out a 566 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: long term deal with him. So then that way, if 567 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: they can get that done, the Bears can then just 568 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: focus on possibly grabbing a wide receiver and free agency. 569 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: Usually the transition tags a little pointless, especially when the 570 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins use it, but in this case, his he has 571 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: such a unique career. They kind of came out of nowhere, 572 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: and he's getting paid a lot, and it sounds like 573 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: the Bears really want to keep Mike Garafolo believes that 574 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: ultimately Fuller will wind up with the Bears, whether he 575 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: re signed, whether they match a deal, or whether it's 576 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: just under the tag. They want to keep him, but 577 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: they don't know what to pay him, so this is 578 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: a way to find out what they should be paying. 579 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: Odds and ends. Time, it ends, it ends. Hey, everybody 580 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: tell your friends because the time and damn, So that 581 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: was pretty smith. I she just closed. She lands this sucker. 582 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: She nailed. But then when you said, because so the 583 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: time is here or whatever, yeah, that you blew it. Yeah, extually, 584 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: I think what help is? There is no build up 585 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: to it. Suddenly Dan was just starting have time to 586 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: get pre pre song jitters. You're right, you're right. And 587 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: the only time I can ever practice is live here. 588 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: Tried to go second first. You don't practice this at home. 589 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's what I'm adds. It ends here we go. 590 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: The Cowboys signed franchise player de Marcus Lawrence to a 591 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: one year, seventeen point one four three million dollar contracts. 592 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: So when I mentioned back surgery before for Kyle Fuller, 593 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: not the case. It was actually for DeMarcus where he 594 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: was the next guy down on my list. So so 595 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence uh seventeen, great year for him, fourteen a 596 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: half sacks, the most by any player since de Marcus 597 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: where and in and he only had one he was 598 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: coming off that back surgery. So great year for him. 599 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: Kenny Britt experience, will Ray John for another season at 600 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: the NFL level. That's the lead from Marks Shssler. What 601 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: an annoying individual. I can't believe the Patriots did this, 602 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: Like Cleveland gave him a ton of cash and decided, 603 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, in early December, this guy is an absolute 604 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: toxic poison. Only one and a half million dollars and 605 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt to just keep him on the roster there. 606 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Like I have talked to people in Cleveland said he 607 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: was an absolute toxic spill in that locker room. Well, 608 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: and they probably should have known that before they signed 609 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: to the A movie on the bills agree on a 610 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: two year contract Chris Westling with another Chris Ivory. Anything 611 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: left in the tank or is it more jacksonvill just 612 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a good fit and needs a fresh start. Well, 613 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: I think it was telling that he sort of lost 614 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: his snaps to t J yelled him by the end 615 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: of the year. And guys with Chris Ivory's running style 616 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: tend to fall off a clip pretty pretty quickly. But 617 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: the Bills needed depth there. If Lashawn McCoy went down, 618 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: who are they going to plug in? Checker stuff? Graham 619 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Gano a four year deal with the Panthers. There's only 620 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: a few kickers in the league, maybe a handful that 621 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: get a deal like this, and Graham Gono one of them. 622 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: Y'all in Greg and a little Graham good experience that 623 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: the great kickers aren't making it the free agency ven 624 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: Terry Good, Now, I know you were excited. A lot 625 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: of them were in our top one initially, NFL referees 626 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: and Hockey Lee and Jeff triplet our retiring. We should 627 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: have lead with this one. Yeah, what are we doing? 628 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Mark Hockey League guns himself steps down, 629 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: his his son Sean and this is a sweet tale. 630 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: Um will take his spot officially, and I don't get 631 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: hockey from me. The takeaway is, at any age any 632 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: one of us in this room could decide I want 633 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: to get wicked jacked the next thirty six months. I 634 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: could be at hockey fourteen years now. I could start 635 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: doing this and that's my goal. That's my offseason goal. Yeah. 636 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't think no matter how much work I did, 637 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I would get too high. I don't. 638 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: You should not view your your physical self that way. 639 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: Transform different. You have to go to the gym, will 640 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: have different frames. Okay, and Jeff Triplet has a good 641 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: body too. I applaud this move. We need some fresh 642 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: We need some fresh blood in the referee circles, which 643 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: have grown to be a huge problem in the NFL. 644 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: Way too many flags. I'm not saying a hockey and 645 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Triple I wanted to see themselves on TV, but 646 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: Triplet was always throwing more flags and anyone else And 647 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: Triplet counter counterpoint, the grass is always greener on the 648 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: other side. Let's hope the new guy. But the referee 649 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: situation in the NFL cannot get worse, literally cannot get worse. 650 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: Jared Jones, I worried that this would be something to 651 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: drag on. He has reimbursed the NFL two million bucks. 652 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: Good for you, Jara, don't drag this thing out, Let's 653 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: move on, Like four pennies from his pocket. Yeah, nothing, 654 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: He's just gonna venmo it. I do like on Venmo 655 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: that you can you have the option where you can 656 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: see what you can have other people see what you can, 657 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: you can hide it. It's very never Dan vennos me things. 658 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: He very concerning subject heads that like, I have a 659 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: question about it home later. Mark once paid me for 660 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: something It just said, like removal of dead bodies sitting 661 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: out there. All right, let's talk a little pressure points. Yep. 662 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: It's a tough gig. You see it on the faces 663 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: of these men when they're in there at the podiums 664 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 1: at the combine. They got a lot on their plate, 665 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: especially this time of year. You could but will throw 666 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: it out to anybody who's under pressure in the NFL 667 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: entering free agency a GM that makes a lot of sense. 668 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: But you can all say a coach or a player, 669 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: or a scouting director or a rival podcast. Greg get 670 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: us going, Well, that rival podcast really uh got me thinking, 671 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: do you want me to start with Mark? And now 672 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean my cousin Justin Milner just started a big 673 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: time podcast. I don't know if he's filling the pressure 674 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: any relation to d Milner the if not Jets draft 675 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: Bush Eddie Milner, Let's let's go with a more conventional start. 676 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Rick Spielman. Spielman runs a team 677 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: without a quarterback and a lot of expectations. Mike Zimmer 678 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: said at the NFL Scouting combine, look at Vikings general manager. 679 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: Vikings general manager or said, if we don't get this 680 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: quarterback decision right, we're all gonna get fired, and everyone 681 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: kind of laughed dark joke. I don't know if it's 682 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: totally that's totally true, but I think they're in a 683 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: tougher spot than people think because everyone just believes, oh, 684 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: they're loaded, they're just gonna be right back. It'll be 685 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: the same defense and a lot of the same players 686 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: are coming back, but it's so hard to get that 687 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: magic going again. The offensive coordina coordinator is going to 688 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: be different, and whether it's Kirk Cousins or case Keenum, 689 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: whoever it is, there's gonna be a lot of pressure 690 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily a situation that's gonna be easy 691 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: to meet expectations. So they're missing two starting guards there 692 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: this year. They have some defensive players whose contracts gonna 693 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: come up soon. There's a lot to deal with thinking 694 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: short and long term. For Spielman, I think he's under 695 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: a lot of no doubt. I I question that that 696 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Spielman would would ask suddenly, if we don't have a 697 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 1: good quarterback play, our jobs are in peril. Rick Spielman 698 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: has spent the of his career in Minnesota with horrible quarterbacks. 699 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean he survived over and over. No, now you 700 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: gotta now, you gotta get it done, big, I you 701 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: you're kind of hitting on the point that I've had 702 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: ive been talking with Keith hands this in between bouts 703 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: of illness, uh the past few days, and a big 704 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: thing about Kirk Cousins and why the Vikings are seen 705 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: as the favorites to land the quarterbacks, Like he has 706 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: a chance to go somewhere to win now and it's like, yeah, probably, 707 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: But this idea that it's a sure thing that you 708 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: go back and it's the same Vikings team that went 709 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: to the doorstep of the Super Bowl, It's all you 710 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: never know what team comes back the next year. You 711 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: never know. I agree. And by the way, my Cousin's 712 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: podcast called Critical Value from the Urban Institute, He's He 713 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: makes me smarter just talking to him in life. He's 714 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: much smarter than I am. Listening to this. I've become 715 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: smarter about public adage. I'm thrown in there. Why not 716 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: it came I support it, I came up. Look, look 717 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was attacking either. I okay, yeah, 718 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: Critical Value Apple podcasts Mark Well, I'll spin off the 719 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: Vikings and say that the other team that's hanging around 720 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: in the Kirk Cousins sweepstick one of a couple is 721 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: is the Broncos. And when when John Elway Lord Peyton 722 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: Manning to Denver, it was all but oh the John 723 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: Elway gravitas and like that, you know, pulling him in 724 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: like that big white truck towards Denver with the It 725 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: was like only l Way could pull this off because 726 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, Peyton trust John Elway. There you go write 727 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: actual SoundBite from the free agent lording process. But the 728 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: I mean now, it's like if you swing and miss 729 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: on Kirk Cousins and you have to turn around, and 730 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: all respect to case Keen and for what he did 731 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: last year, if you turn around and sell case Keenum 732 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: as your long term deal that you get instead of 733 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and you're the guy that has Paxiston Lynch 734 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: probably still in the roster and of face saving move. 735 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: I just think Elway the shines off a little bit, 736 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: and it starts at the position that you're supposed to secure. 737 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: Year after year, you're missing on draft picks at the 738 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: quarterback level, and now you have to go and get 739 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins or it's gonna be a big fall off 740 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: for that Broncos team, a team that's stunk last year. 741 00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: By the way, remember the helicopter been that was me years. 742 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: It's not gonna look good for any general manager to 743 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: bypass case Keenum for one year and two million dollars 744 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: last year and then overpaid for him this year when 745 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: we're not even sure. I'm not even sure if he's 746 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: a better quarterback than Trevor Simeon m hm, but Trevor 747 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: Simeon on last year's vikings, I think they do a 748 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: lot better. He's a guy who's very dependent on him 749 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: on his offensive line blocking. Yeah, I don't think. I 750 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: don't think that's crazy. The thing that you're so right 751 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: about Elway, and you could get this a little bit 752 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: from the combin, just the way he was talking, he 753 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: seems like he feels the pressure, like last year was 754 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: such a miserable experience for him, he just wanted to 755 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: wipe it away. Like he said that immediately, just like 756 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm so happy because it's two thousand and eighteen and 757 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, the worst year ever is over and I'm 758 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna forget that ever happened. But he might be in 759 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: a spot where this year is not really that much better. Well, 760 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: they haven't had back to back losing seasons since any 761 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: of us in this room has been alive. The standards 762 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: there are very high. They go be paper Bowls every year. 763 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: That's that's a great little nugget. It's been since the 764 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: early nineteen seventies. Well, the Cubs of won a World Series, 765 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles just won the Super Bowl. Maybe it's time 766 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: for Denver to experience a little back to back losing campaign. 767 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: Dirt nap as he said, little dirt nap times, because 768 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: you're known to say that, like its I will spin 769 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: off Thresh Parks Pick and another Hall of Fame player 770 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: who has been one of the best general managers of 771 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: his generation, Ozzy K. Newsome. There's some pressure on him. 772 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: His legacy is intact. He's done enough, but he does 773 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: not want to leave a mess for Eric to Costa, 774 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: who's going to be the next general manager, and this 775 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: roster right now his potential to be a mess. They have, 776 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: as in every iteration of Ozzie Newsome's tenure there, they 777 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: have to blow up the wide receiver corps again because 778 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: it didn't work out and Ozzie has not been able 779 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: to figure out that position. In addition to that, what what? 780 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: Who is Joe Flacco at this point? They keep backing him, 781 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: but there's whispers that they're gonna target a quarterback at 782 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm pointing this draft. They have to figure out if 783 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is going to be the guy for the 784 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: next you know, Mark Eric to Costa Era. Defense, they 785 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: spent a few early round picks on Ed Rusher last year. 786 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: They're getting a little old in the secondary. They have 787 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: to fix that. They've got some holes up front. Their 788 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: cap is a mess. The Ravens could go either way 789 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: this year. They could go back into the playoff hunt 790 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: they you know, the Bengals knocked them out last year, 791 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: or they could fall back in another couple of steps 792 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: again and become a team that has to do a 793 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: massive rebuild. Ozzy Knewsom when he was under Bill Belichick 794 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. One of the first Belichick The one of 795 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: the first times he said, I know Ozzy knew some 796 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: has this special gift to scout and see players was 797 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: when he he found Michael Jackson, the wide receiver singer 798 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: Michael Dyson for like three games that he went back. 799 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: But you remember Michael Jackson was an incredible talent, and 800 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: you go to then they moved, they go to Baltimore, 801 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: and I feel like they they haven't found a wide 802 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: receiver since. I mean, it's been the entire run with 803 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: the Ravens. How many great wide receivers can you name 804 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: that they picked in the draft? Oh? Yeah, the only 805 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: good one you had have been free agent old veterans 806 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: Bold and Mason, first rep colleague's post personal friend Steve Smith, 807 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: Mark Clayton, who was the other one, Travis Taylor. They 808 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: got what your point about the cost is interesting because 809 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: if they do have a losing record, the first thing 810 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: the Costs is gonna have to do is fired John Harbaugh. 811 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: I believe if he if they have a losing record 812 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: this year, he's not so fired. One of the five 813 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: best coaches in the NFL. They they said they considered 814 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: firing him this year, and and they admitted that that 815 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: that wasn't considered. That would be that would be Steve decision, 816 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: not Eric right, that's fair, but that would that would 817 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: start his running. Maybe get a new quarterback too if 818 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: Flacco looks poor. Alright, So obviously Kirk Cousins is under 819 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure, and I was trying to think 820 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: of someone who is a little bit more under the 821 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: radar um So I know that this is a GM 822 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: who's only in his second season. But the Colts are 823 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: a mess. And Chris Ballard they had he took the 824 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: first season. What's your favorite type a frog? To clean 825 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: things up there? Take stock and what's going on? They 826 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: went four and twelve, But they have the third overall pick, 827 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: They have the third I believe, most cap space in 828 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: the league. Their quarterback situation is one that's kind of 829 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: shrouded with mystery, not to him but to us. So 830 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: whatever Andrew Luck is going to do, if he's going 831 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: to be healthier, not next season. You just had Josh 832 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: McDaniels publicly blow you off in front of everybody, and 833 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: so you have your your second choice as your head coach. 834 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: They have so many needs there. I mean, that offensive 835 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: line has been a mess for years and years. You 836 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: need two corners, you need an inside linebacker, pass rushers, 837 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: and if the rivalry is still back on with New England, 838 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: who they played this year, they have to at least 839 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: be competitive. Plus, the division is a lot more competitive 840 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: than it's been in the past. With Deshaun Watson at 841 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: the Texans and the Jags, what they were able to do, 842 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: it's not as easy as it used to be for them, 843 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: so they need to get talent in there. The one 844 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: thing I'd say is I think the owner loves him 845 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: right and he's handled a lot of who thought they 846 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: would have come into this situation really essentially not Andrew 847 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: Luck at all and having to answer questions seven thousand 848 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: times about a thing that he can't definitive. You say, 849 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: if Andrew Luck is healthy or not. But over and 850 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: over stuff has been thrown in Ballard's face and Ballard continues, 851 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: I think to answer with a lot of grace. And 852 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: he's been a really skillful guy navigating an organization that 853 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: the GM before him was a was a giant mess. 854 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: It's doing the exercise that Greg referenced earlier I had 855 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: the f C section. It's crazy to see the Colts 856 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: still have the same glaring holes on the roster that 857 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: they've had since they drafted Andrew Luck running back, offensive line, 858 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: and the entire defense. Yeah, how much is the Well, 859 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: we'll find out because we all rooting for Ballard and 860 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: we like Ballard and we like frogs. But how much 861 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: of it is the GM and how type of frogs 862 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: there's beyond the GM, and if if that's ultimately what's 863 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: holding back this franchise that any GM is kind of 864 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: up the old creek. I think most football battle would 865 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: tell you that Jim Mercy is a very an owner 866 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: to work. I I think that we may see, and 867 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: we've seen it already, some of the value of Peyton Manning, 868 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: not that anyone doubted his value carrying an organization that 869 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: maybe does have some portant leadership, because look how he's 870 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: handled the era since how own. I think Jim Mercy 871 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: has certainly made decisions that he regrets. There was a 872 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer who built that team, Bill right, But 873 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying everything that's gone on since then has 874 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: not been handled well. And they were given Andrew Luck. 875 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm not giving him any credit for that. They were 876 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: given and I agree with a magical one in fifteen 877 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: and gave them Andrew luck. I think that I think 878 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: Jim Ercy is more knowledgeable on football than most owners, 879 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: but that could also get him in trouble by getting 880 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: involved in things not just a part of it. I 881 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: don't think he's one of those owners that's you know, 882 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: lost in space. And I will not name something that 883 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: I believe are he's a former general man, but that's 884 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: coming up later this week on the end around Good Week, 885 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: Bade tune in. All right, we're logging. I'll throw one 886 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: out there a little full circle where we started this podcast. 887 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: John Schneider, All, Johnny, he did something that uh uh 888 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: that I think, or at least Greg and I agree 889 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: with getting out now and if you feel like the 890 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: end is near with this this group, try to to 891 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: rebuild and build around your superstar linebacker and go from there. However, 892 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: that comes with a lot of risk, especially when you 893 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: have a fan base that has grown to love and 894 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: fall in love with the idea of the legion of 895 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: Boom and it's become the identity of that defense. When 896 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: you make that decision, we're gonna start taking that apart, 897 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna change this defense. Uh, your fans are 898 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna expect and probably your bosses are gonna expect a 899 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: succession plan that is, you know, bonkers lights out, because 900 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: why else would you then throw away this azing part 901 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: of the legacy of your organization. So I think you 902 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: really need to be you need to know what you're doing. 903 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: And you think that Schneider has a track record to 904 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: prove it. But he's under a lot of pressure. He's 905 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: got to pick the right players. They don't have a 906 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: lot of cap space. I just checked it out. I 907 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: don't know how things will change with some of these 908 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: moves they're doing, but they gotta save a lot between Sherman, 909 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: Gavriel Chancellor. But even that will put them maybe in 910 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the pack right now there in the 911 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: bottom third. The only a fourteen million according to over 912 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: the cap and then that's not even how I mean. 913 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: He's also got the other side of the ball to 914 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: worry about. Paul Richardson is a nice player. He's probably gone. 915 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, who's maybe not Jimmy Graham anymore, but was 916 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: a part of their offense, an important part he's gonna 917 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: be gone most likely, and they still have no running game. 918 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: And I know they got Dwayne Brown at left tackle, 919 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: but there's their offensive line probably still is a unit 920 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,479 Speaker 1: that you would think needs to be addressed. Yes, Pete 921 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: Carroll's there, Yes, Russell Wilson, but Jim's got a lot 922 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: of work. If he almost reminds me it's not the 923 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: same level because you do have the same coach, and 924 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: you do have the same quarterback, and a lot can 925 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: ride on that we saw the last year with that team. 926 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: But when the Niners, like post Jim, but when they 927 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: lost so many people all over the place, that the 928 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: Seahawks are gonna look like a completely vastly different organization. 929 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 1: I would say this, Jim Schnider is a guy trust 930 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: to do it. And secondly, if you tell Seahawks fans, hey, 931 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you five or six of the most 932 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: fun football seasons ever, if you would ride with us 933 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: through a little bit of a hiccup after, yeah, I 934 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: think most fans would take that. Yeah, they've proven it. 935 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: It was one of the best, you know, reconstruction jobs 936 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: anyone's done this century in Seattle when they arrived. But 937 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: they haven't really hit on their draft picks well for 938 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: a while, I mean at the at the incredible level 939 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: that they were. So they need to find their new 940 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: earl Thomas's and Sherman's and kJ writes they Schneider needs 941 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: to start hitting on his picks. You gotta be smart 942 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: and lucky because you have to have teams pass on 943 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: guys like Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner and Richard Sherman 944 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: in order to get them where they got. Matt Flynn 945 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: was going to be their quarterback. Jaz Whitehurst had a 946 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: little time there, a little Camyan lit one more shot 947 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: of Matt Flynn out the door. Huh. I'm just saying. 948 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about a guy that got overpaid. Seems 949 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: like just yesterday John Snyder had that championship wrestling built 950 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: feeling it coast to the league. Nice, nice man pecks 951 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,919 Speaker 1: on display. Still a guy who is a healthy level 952 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: of swagger. Oh yes, you need it. Maybe it's not fair, 953 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: but I kind of the lasting image I'm gonna have, 954 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: And maybe this because I'm a Patriots fan of the 955 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: end of that era. Is Richard Sherman's face on on 956 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: NBC reacting to the interception like who the cameraman that 957 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: had the camera on Richard Sherman's face. Give him a bonus. 958 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: NBC getting people saying it was like that face ended 959 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: the Seahawks DNA. It's like an eight check shows up 960 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: and it's like, thank at Greg Rosenal, I'll be like, 961 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: what is happening? All right, that's it for today's show. 962 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday. Uh with Oh yeah, it's 963 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: free agency props time. Well, it's tough. Free props are tough. 964 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: Let's go get my lunch, right, go get my lunch, 965 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: you giant piece of filth? Is this the one where 966 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: you Dan were offord like he went over fourteen? Or 967 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: was that draft and one of them you and you've 968 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: climbed out of that one. It was the draft where 969 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: I almost had Johnny Man's out of the Cowboys. I 970 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: almost had this, almost had that, but had nothing. But 971 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 1: thank you for bringing that up. Mark. That wasn't remember 972 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: that time when you missed all of your guests. Uh. 973 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: In general, I've been strong, too, very strong in this game, 974 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 1: and I intend to have a strong free agency props session, 975 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: So you just get your head on. Luck to you 976 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: after your super Bowl performance fell off the wheels fell off. Well, 977 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop predicting things to have like a one 978 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: in seventy five billion chance of happening. I don't believe it. 979 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: I don't believe you can do it. I think you 980 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: like Friday, like the spotlight of the Longest Spotlight of 981 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: going one and eight on like it. Props, Dan need 982 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: to have some some props really directed at each other. 983 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: Well like that, how organically, let's burgeoning rivalry. They like, 984 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: here we go, um Dan Hanson signing off four quiet 985 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: storm the mailman. You can do it, you can do it, 986 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: you can do it. You can nine Fox the old Boss. 987 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: And let's the fault on behind the glass up Friday