Speaker 1: Hello, is this the motherfucking gecko?
Speaker 2: This is the motherfucking gecko.
Speaker 1: Oh my fucking god. Uh, she goes begging of the call.
Speaker 1: But oh my god, how you doing? Damn? What the fuck?
Speaker 2: How's it going? Matt?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 2: You said you have to take another call?
Speaker 4: None of those.
Speaker 1: Guy keeps calling me, but it's okay. You're more important
Speaker 1: right now. Going on, Man, how you doing?
Speaker 2: Who's this guy that keeps calling you?
Speaker 1: My best friend from taught her he can probably be dying,
Speaker 1: but it's okay. I'll deal with that later.
Speaker 2: He's dying, he's dying.
Speaker 1: He could probably be dying. I mean, he's on really
Speaker 1: never calls me this much, but that's not important right now.
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Wait? Your friend, so your friend never usually calls you
Speaker 2: as much as he's calling you right now.
Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, which I don't know why that that never happens.
Speaker 1: He just called me three times, but I just don''ll
Speaker 1: call me back later.
Speaker 2: Okay, did he text you?
Speaker 4: Is he?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: No, he probably is. Okay, it's probably because we're bidding
Speaker 1: on the World Cup right now, so it's probably something
Speaker 1: to do with that. I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, how much you what? What game are you watching?
Speaker 2: And how much do you got on it? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god, man, I'm down like fucking four hundred dollars
Speaker 1: right now in the World Cup.
Speaker 2: Okay, deeper? Are you gonna go deeper? Are you gonna.
Speaker 4: Scaring?
Speaker 1: Money? Doesn't make money, So I'm probably gonna two hundred
Speaker 1: dollars more than.
Speaker 2: Do you know? What's funny is I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not a big I play some poker,
Speaker 2: but I'm not a big Like sports betting is there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean are there? How how long have you been
Speaker 2: into sports betting? Is that like a new thing? I
Speaker 2: feel like it's fucking everywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of it's a hit and go. H
Speaker 1: So sometimes like I kind of tie up to do
Speaker 1: too much because when I tend to gamble on sport's putting,
Speaker 1: I tend to go crazy. So I'll kind of play
Speaker 1: for a little bit. I'll lose like five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I won't touch it for like
Speaker 1: another five months, and then I'll go back to it.
Speaker 1: I have a really bad addition with gambling. I would
Speaker 1: just inveig eventually and I take one hundred dollars rent
Speaker 1: it up to a thousand, and then I woke up
Speaker 1: the next day and I'll last it all.
Speaker 2: I here's the thing, if you if you go into
Speaker 2: any betting situation, we've sorry about this before you go
Speaker 2: into a bad situation. You're like, I have one hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: Like if you run a hundred. If you go into
Speaker 2: the casino, right and you have one hundred dollars, you're
Speaker 2: like and you're like, I'm willing to lose this hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: And you run the hundred dollars all the way up
Speaker 2: to one thousand dollars and then you lose it all.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 1: You can't get it right, yeah, fight, you can't get.
Speaker 2: Mad right now if you run it up to a
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and then you start to be like, I
Speaker 2: gotta get back that one thousand dollars, and then you
Speaker 2: start to lose, and then you lose one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: more than you came in to play with.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, as long as you like, don't lose any more
Speaker 2: than the house money you came to play with.
Speaker 1: Fine, that's my tind of rule. I'd only lose house
Speaker 1: money once I'm up like that. I don't really care
Speaker 1: on can't lose the house money. I'm like, I gotta
Speaker 1: go home.
Speaker 2: But that's not your rule. For the World Cup. You're
Speaker 2: down the house money for the World Cup. World Cup.
Speaker 1: You know it's different. I've got to make some money.
Speaker 2: Why do you have to why? Why is what do
Speaker 2: you do? You have to make money?
Speaker 1: I've got to make some money. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I just liked the rush just winning a parlay with
Speaker 1: the World Cup. And I don't really watch Talker, so
Speaker 1: betting on the World Cup because all my friends do
Speaker 1: it now too, so it kind of it's kind of
Speaker 1: like our thing now, you know, I don't know, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's funny, is you know? It's fun. I'm not
Speaker 2: really into like like I don't funk with cal she
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with that stuff. But in my well, yeah,
Speaker 2: but here's like it's fun in my personal life. I
Speaker 2: made a bet with my friend my friend, and I
Speaker 2: went to go I make bets all.
Speaker 1: The time within your friends. Okay, okay, in.
Speaker 2: My friend group, I made a bet and okay, so
Speaker 2: I went to go see the movies Toy Story five.
Speaker 3: I was actually.
Speaker 1: About to ask you about that because I was.
Speaker 2: And I was listening to.
Speaker 1: I was listening to. I didn't even to catch off.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was an episode where you talked about
Speaker 1: how Toy Story three was your favorite movie and how
Speaker 1: you are nothing like Woody because Woody went back to
Speaker 1: save Lotso and then Lotso wouldn't say Woody. I forgot
Speaker 1: what the context or something like that, and you said
Speaker 1: that was your favorite movie. So I remember I talk
Speaker 1: to you. I'm gonna ask if you watch Toy Story five.
Speaker 2: Multiple things to say that I that scene from Toy
Speaker 2: Story three. I have talked about it passionately where Woody
Speaker 2: saves lots of hugging Bear and then lots of hugging
Speaker 2: Bear doesn't save Woody. It's a beautiful scene. It's a
Speaker 2: crazy scene that movie. No, nothing that. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's one of my favorite movies. I don't really
Speaker 2: have favorite movies. I'm like a movie guy, but uh yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: It's the scene where they're all trapped under like spoons
Speaker 2: and shit and they're about to get incinerated, and lots
Speaker 2: of hugging Bear is the reason they're there in the
Speaker 2: first place, and he's you know, an evil an evil villain,
Speaker 2: and what what does Woody do because he's a good guy.
Speaker 2: He saves lots of huggin Bear anyway, and then it's
Speaker 2: lots of huggin Bear's time to say turn to save
Speaker 2: Louke Woody and he doesn't do it. So by anyway,
Speaker 2: I saw Toy Story five. It was it was fine,
Speaker 2: It is all right, It wasn't it wasn't life changing.
Speaker 2: I saw a review for it, well, I saw a
Speaker 2: review for it that was like, does this movie need
Speaker 2: to exist? And it's like, but as fuck, it does
Speaker 2: anything need to exist? That's a stupid it's a stupid
Speaker 2: loan to watch the movie. I went with my friend.
Speaker 2: I went with my friend and we had I had
Speaker 2: I made a bet with him and I bet we
Speaker 2: bet a dollar. I we bet a dollar. I bet
Speaker 2: that that they would use the word frequently in the movie.
Speaker 2: I bet him, I bet him one dollar that they
Speaker 2: would use the word frequently in the movie. And it
Speaker 2: was hard to pay attention because I just kept waiting
Speaker 2: to see if. I don't know why I picked that word.
Speaker 2: It was just a stupid word to see if. It
Speaker 2: was just a fun little bet. And we sat all
Speaker 2: the way to the end credits scene to see if
Speaker 2: they use the word frequently, they don't. Then I looked
Speaker 2: it up. The word frequently is not used in any
Speaker 2: of the Toy Story movies. Would you believe?
Speaker 1: Really is it using any Disney movie?
Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm I'm sure it is. I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay, but it's.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I like stupid bets, but uh, and I guess
Speaker 2: that's what Cal she. I like stupid bets. But this
Speaker 2: is out of hand. Cal she being like bet on
Speaker 2: what the weather is and ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cal, she's out of hand. You can get it.
Speaker 1: You could just bet on anything on there, man, You
Speaker 1: can bet on Trump saying just random words.
Speaker 2: And do you do that? Do you do that? Do
Speaker 2: you get into like betting on the weather and shit
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no that I think if I had
Speaker 1: to do that, I would I probably have to uh
Speaker 1: check myself into somewhere. It's not that bad, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you got?
Speaker 2: Who do you got for the World Cup?
Speaker 1: Uh? The World Cup?
Speaker 4: I got Spain.
Speaker 1: I don't really, like I said, I don't know much
Speaker 1: about the World Cup, but I got Spain. All I
Speaker 1: know is you men, you mar MESSI ever know, though,
Speaker 1: that's all I know.
Speaker 2: You texted me and you said I made a married
Speaker 2: couple get divorced.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 4: I did?
Speaker 1: Uh? So I lied a little bit, but not really.
Speaker 1: So it turns out up they're not fully divorced, but
Speaker 1: they're so legally married, but they're not together. I'm with
Speaker 1: his wife.
Speaker 2: Oh you are shit, you made them break up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when I had met her, I was going through
Speaker 1: I was just going through a breakup and I ended
Speaker 1: up getting drunk and I found her on my Instagram
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, she looks really good.
Speaker 1: So I dmd her off, like, hey, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I really want to get to know you. She didn't
Speaker 1: text me back until like two days later. Mind you,
Speaker 1: I was really drunk when I texted her, so I
Speaker 1: don't even remember texting her until I saw her text
Speaker 1: me back and I was like, oh shit. So we
Speaker 1: scheduled date for Vameron Time's Day. We went out to eat,
Speaker 1: We had a good time. She told me she was
Speaker 1: single and that she was living with her cousin and
Speaker 1: that she was out because she's not from here, and so, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's cool. We went back to her place.
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. It seemed
Speaker 1: like a like a normal place, like it was just
Speaker 1: her and her cousin living there, but nobody was at
Speaker 1: the house at the time.
Speaker 4: Fast forward.
Speaker 1: First day went well, Second day, she ends up wanting
Speaker 1: to meet up with me, so I told her just
Speaker 1: come to my house and you could just drive here.
Speaker 1: So she drove to my house and as she's driving
Speaker 1: to my house, she told me to come out to
Speaker 1: like help a part. So I get in the car
Speaker 1: with her and some guy kind of cuts us off,
Speaker 1: and uh. As he cuts us off, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the I live in a sketchy area, so I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's like a neighbor or something like, oh
Speaker 1: I had it was stork. So she stays in the car.
Speaker 1: I get out the car and this guy starts putting
Speaker 1: a camera in my face talking about who are you?
Speaker 1: What are you doing with her? Like you know she's married?
Speaker 1: Da da da, And I'm like, oh fuck, what situations
Speaker 1: did I just get myself into? So I tried to
Speaker 1: put it off. I'm like, you know what, I knew
Speaker 1: she was married, Like no, she's she's with me, Like,
Speaker 1: don't worry, Like it doesn't matter who her husband is whatever,
Speaker 1: and I'm not a tall person. I'm like, fine, by wait.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hell on, hell on. So you're this guy's
Speaker 2: this lady's husband cuts you off on the street.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in my neighborhood and your neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And then and then you say to him, I don't
Speaker 2: care who if she's married, she's with me now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was drunk. I was intoxicated, so
Speaker 1: I was already and I didn't I didn't want to
Speaker 1: throw into the bust people like oh what you know, Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make her look bad. So I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, fuck it, I'll just play along. That's
Speaker 1: kind of like I already knew, mind you, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what the fuck is going on. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, Yeah, I knew she's married. Da da
Speaker 1: da da. And they're like, I just found it funny
Speaker 1: because I said, I'm five five. This guy's like six something,
Speaker 1: so he's tall as shit. So I'm like looking up
Speaker 1: at him and he has a phone down recording me,
Speaker 1: and like, turns out I thought this was the friend
Speaker 1: the whole time. Turns out that was a husband. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that, And yeah, he was trying to fight
Speaker 1: me over her, and I was like, like, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to fight you, like, you know, I don't even
Speaker 1: know you. Turns out he was in the military the
Speaker 1: whole time too, and she ended up staying with me
Speaker 1: after that, and he ended up supposedly breaking up. He
Speaker 1: ended up moving out, she moved in with me. Fast forward,
Speaker 1: I found out they're not even divorced yet. Actually they're
Speaker 1: still married. You know, yeah, we've been together for about
Speaker 1: a year now. But that's basically the whole Sorry.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it sounds like this was this lady like
Speaker 2: cheating on her husband with you, or like she she
Speaker 2: just kind of left.
Speaker 1: So it turns out there was some stuff between them
Speaker 1: that I happened and they weren't no longer together. Like
Speaker 1: he was sleeping in the living room when she was
Speaker 1: sleeping in the master bedroom and I saw that, and
Speaker 1: when I went over there, I saw that just to
Speaker 1: make sure. So I kind of because like her room,
Speaker 1: it looked like it was just a girlroom, only she
Speaker 1: had only her clothes and her stuff was there, and
Speaker 1: so it kind of made sense. So I took her
Speaker 1: word for it. I decided to believe her, and yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Okay, and are you afraid has the ex husband their husband?
Speaker 2: I guess, since they're still together, has he has he
Speaker 2: entered the fray again at all?
Speaker 1: Actually presentally. I'm not gonna lie. I may have cheated,
Speaker 1: and so I found out that what besides the boy
Speaker 1: I made something, something may have happened. And I found
Speaker 1: out that they were actually on the phone for like
Speaker 1: two hours, not that long ago. So I guess they
Speaker 1: still have communication in that aspect.
Speaker 2: Okay, pause for a second. So you so you cheated
Speaker 2: on this Okay, so you cheated on this lady? And
Speaker 2: then big five? Wait, what is you cheating on this
Speaker 2: lady have to do with that? What you're saying.
Speaker 1: Even uh well, I'm guessing that's why was the reason
Speaker 1: she called her for like two hours?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, so it's okay, so this lady,
Speaker 2: all right, so back up for a second. This lady
Speaker 2: leaves her husband for you, then you cheated on her,
Speaker 2: and then she goes back to her husband.
Speaker 1: Kind of yes, so she was still living with me,
Speaker 1: but she was in communication with him.
Speaker 2: Why did you cheat on this lady?
Speaker 1: You know what? I hate to say it I had
Speaker 1: to be that person. It was alcohol. It wasn't me
Speaker 1: I have a serious problem with alcohol. I didn't really
Speaker 1: cheat on her. I guess I kind of did in
Speaker 1: a way. Uh, there was like a I was on
Speaker 1: Instagram and I saw a girl and I knew and
Speaker 1: I slipped with hard eyes and we sent a few messages.
Speaker 1: But that was it. That was all it was.
Speaker 2: And yeah, do you like do you like? Do you
Speaker 2: like this? Do you like this woman that you're dating?
Speaker 1: I did? I did at one point, I really did,
Speaker 1: but now not so much for actually breaking up. She's
Speaker 1: actually leaving me next month.
Speaker 2: Oh why is she?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why is it next month? Is it like a lease
Speaker 2: rent thing?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. So so we have a whole
Speaker 1: we lived somewhere else completely how she moved it with me.
Speaker 1: But she's leaving and I'm going to be living by myself. Uh.
Speaker 1: The oason she's leaving next month is because she has
Speaker 1: to wait for her school to end, and so she'll
Speaker 1: be able to leave next month.
Speaker 2: Why did you stop liking this woman after a year?
Speaker 1: Honestly, she was a lot different when I first met
Speaker 1: her than when I thought she is now. I thought
Speaker 1: about the future and what it could be like me
Speaker 1: and her, and it's more of a financial thing, if
Speaker 1: I say, if I can say, because when she lived
Speaker 1: with me the first couple of months I had her,
Speaker 1: I told her she doesn't have to pay anything. She
Speaker 1: can just take care of her bills and I have
Speaker 1: to worry about nothing. Fast forward, after it was time
Speaker 1: for us to move out, I asked if she had money.
Speaker 1: She didn't have any money saved up, even though she
Speaker 1: didn't pay nothing for a year. Well, actually we've been
Speaker 1: together almost tears, Actually that's sorry. So for that first
Speaker 1: year that we lived together at the old place, she
Speaker 1: didn't save up any money and she was just really
Speaker 1: bad financially and I was basically paying for both of us.
Speaker 1: And so when we moved I told her like, hey, like,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get a bit more rat, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to start helping out if you can. And
Speaker 1: it's still the same thing. She's just really really bad
Speaker 1: with money. She makes really bad decisions. And I asked myself,
Speaker 1: if that's someone I want to be with moving forward.
Speaker 1: If not, then what's the point. So I kind of
Speaker 1: sat down and I told her, I was like, hey, like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it's better off if you go your own way
Speaker 1: and I go my own way.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, okay, So it was primarily just like uh uh,
Speaker 2: if you did not want to go, you didn't want
Speaker 2: to split bills, not.
Speaker 1: I guess split bills, but like I guess take care
Speaker 1: of another person at the same time as I'm taking
Speaker 1: care of myself.
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, that makes sense. So what's your
Speaker 2: uh what do you what do you want the future
Speaker 2: to look like? What do you what's moving What does
Speaker 2: it look like moving forward? For me?
Speaker 1: Moving forward, it looks like I want to actually get
Speaker 1: my I kind of want to get my shit together. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm working on getting back into school so I could
Speaker 1: become a pilot. So and that costs a lot of money,
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to take care of that. So right now,
Speaker 1: looking forward for me, the next year is probably going
Speaker 1: to look like I'll move out of here. I'll move
Speaker 1: into like a little studio apartment, or I'll share a
Speaker 1: bedroom with someone so I don't have to pay that much,
Speaker 1: and then I'll split all my money I have into
Speaker 1: becoming a pilot. I love to travel. I've traveled plenty
Speaker 1: of places. I've been to Japan, I've been to Kenya,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of want to just do that.
Speaker 2: You're like, here, you're gonna a commercial airline pilot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, commercial airline pilot. That's probably later down the road.
Speaker 1: I would probably become like a trainer at first. I
Speaker 1: think you need like a certain amount of hours, and
Speaker 1: then you go down to Houston, I believe, to get
Speaker 1: your license to become a like like a like a
Speaker 1: certified training like a trainer pilot to get your hours.
Speaker 2: What's going on down in Kenya? That's that's on my list.
Speaker 1: Uh, Kenya, Kenya, Kenya. Honestly, man, I was in Kenya
Speaker 1: for like twenty four hours. Kenyon was really cool. I
Speaker 1: stayed in the sketchy area. And then they have like
Speaker 1: little hotels you can go to like they're like normally resorts,
Speaker 1: Like you could just go up in there and you
Speaker 1: can just hang out, get drinks. It's it's really nice.
Speaker 1: You have camels on the beach.
Speaker 2: She was crazy camels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they have camels on the beach. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: have camels on the beaches. It was really really cool. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't Kenya. That was a what was that that
Speaker 1: was in Kenya? That was Oh my god, it's the
Speaker 1: coast of Africa. I can't remember because I did a
Speaker 1: week trip to Turkey, Egypt. It was Mombasa, that's what
Speaker 1: it was. It was it was Umbasa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't you? Can you like patch your friend in?
Speaker 1: You want to patch my friend in? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I want to see what he had to say.
Speaker 1: You want me to give me a second. I think
Speaker 1: he knows the show. Give me one second.
Speaker 2: Okay, it'd be funnier if he didn't know the show.
Speaker 2: I hope I saw something serious. Yeah it is he
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 1: Ryan? Give me teke. Let me look at his location
Speaker 1: first to make sure.
Speaker 3: Worried that. Wait?
Speaker 2: Why do you have to look at his location?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Because he owns own companies. Sometimes he might be working,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to call him. Maybe he's had
Speaker 1: a job site or something.
Speaker 2: But he would he But he just called you like
Speaker 2: three times. They wouldn't be why he's call him back?
Speaker 2: He called you three times?
Speaker 1: Can m.
Speaker 2: Okay? How long do you think it will take for
Speaker 2: you to do this?
Speaker 3: All?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: He's gone, Maybe he's gone. Maybe it's is it. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's ringing on his end. Maybe I'm on hold. It's
Speaker 2: funny to do to this bit because I'm going to
Speaker 2: talk to his friend for like two seconds and then
Speaker 2: or maybe not, maybe this will turn into something I
Speaker 2: don't know. Is he there?
Speaker 1: No, he didn't answer. You know, we go to do
Speaker 1: the alcohol. He'll call me. I'll call him and then
Speaker 1: he won't answer, and he'll call me like two hours later,
Speaker 1: asking what happened?
Speaker 2: What's your name again?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Loofy, Loofy? You want to call me? Uh no, I uh,
Speaker 2: I've never watched one piece.
Speaker 1: I ever watched one piece? Okay, oh no, that's it.
Speaker 1: Actually I got start getting for work. It was really
Speaker 1: cool to talk to you though, what we thought about
Speaker 1: this moment. So that's that's cool.
Speaker 2: It was good talking to you to Loofy. I wish
Speaker 2: you good luck. I hope you win. I hope you
Speaker 2: break even on the World Cup. And I'll see you
Speaker 2: in the universe man.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll see you on the universe. Man. How
Speaker 1: a going okay?
Speaker 2: By lufy? See you? Who? I don't really I don't
Speaker 2: watch I don't really pay attention to the World Cup.
Speaker 2: What's going on in the World Cup? The World Cup?
Speaker 2: You know what I know is when people are like,
Speaker 2: well you got to watch the world it's the World
Speaker 2: I know I'm not into soccer, but I don't you
Speaker 2: know what, It doesn't make sense to me when people
Speaker 2: are like, oh, I'm not into soccer, but I watched
Speaker 2: the World Cup because you know it's the World Cup.
Speaker 2: The logic doesn't make sense. It's like, Oh, I'm not
Speaker 2: into soccer, but I watch this big soccer event because
Speaker 2: it's a big soccer event.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Like it's like if I was like, well, I'm not
Speaker 2: in the League of Legends, but I watched the finals
Speaker 2: because you know it's the finals. The logic doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Here's what happens when you have a podcast. You have
Speaker 2: to have you have to say an opinion about something.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take another call. Hello. Hello, Hey, what's
Speaker 2: your name?
Speaker 3: Amanda?
Speaker 2: Amanda?
Speaker 3: Is this GK?
Speaker 2: This is the Gecko? What's up, Amanda?
Speaker 3: Hey, this is tired. I didn't think you would respond.
Speaker 3: I thought I'd missed it. Nothing. I'm just shit home
Speaker 3: cleaning and I was doing schoolwork for new classes that
Speaker 3: are starting. We're get you up to you?
Speaker 2: What am I up to? I'm staring out the window.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the sky and that's just about it
Speaker 2: for me. Amanda, what uh? What did you want to
Speaker 2: talk about today, Amanda.
Speaker 3: So there's a couple of things. The first is I'm
Speaker 3: in a relationship that's like it's been we've been together
Speaker 3: like six years. But I'm a very I'm a very active,
Speaker 3: busy person. Like I grew up with a navy the
Speaker 3: old father. Like, my home was not messy. I didn't
Speaker 3: even know what a messy home looked like as a
Speaker 3: child on So things just have a place, and that's
Speaker 3: how I function. I don't want to let it build
Speaker 3: up and then spend a whole day devoted to cleaning
Speaker 3: it up, you know. But to guide that, I'm went.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I need a list, need a list
Speaker 3: to do something? How do I know what to do
Speaker 3: if you don't make me a list, I don't know. Dude,
Speaker 3: use your eyeballs.
Speaker 2: If you don't make him a list.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So basically I still have to use all
Speaker 3: the brain power for anything to get done. So I
Speaker 3: might as well just do it myself. It'll probably get
Speaker 3: half asked done if I'm not the one that doesn't
Speaker 3: doesn't do it.
Speaker 2: That's called uh, you know there's a word for that, right,
Speaker 2: It's a phrase. It's called weaponize it's called weaponized incompetence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like a very gallid phrase.
Speaker 2: My sister told me about that. She was like, that's
Speaker 2: the one thing that I won't that's like one of
Speaker 2: the things she doesn't want in her dating life is
Speaker 2: weaponizing competence, like somebody not doing something because it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you'll do it so much better, you know, like they're
Speaker 2: weaponizing they're incompetence to not like do a thing. But okay,
Speaker 2: so you've been with but you've been with this guy
Speaker 2: for a long time. This is not like a fur
Speaker 2: You've been with this guy for six years, right, So
Speaker 2: why is it Why is it now that this is
Speaker 2: coming up.
Speaker 3: I think it's because we hit. So we had lived
Speaker 3: together previously for a few years, but then he got
Speaker 3: into some trouble with the court system, so he had
Speaker 3: to get he basically like had to go do this
Speaker 3: program for like almost a year and a half. So
Speaker 3: then I was on my own with bull not my own,
Speaker 3: but I had my kid who's fifteen. I've got a
Speaker 3: fifteen year old son, and then my dog. Then just
Speaker 3: me and we It was just nice. It was so nice.
Speaker 3: My bed was always made very nicely so I could
Speaker 3: just slide into a nice fitted sheet when I was
Speaker 3: ready to way down. Everything was put up. I could relax.
Speaker 3: I didn't have to worry about this or I wasn't
Speaker 3: asked what's for dinner when I get off of work.
Speaker 2: I gotta be hon It sounds like you hate this guy.
Speaker 1: I do you know?
Speaker 2: Wait? Wait wait wait wait, what's your what's your? Amanda? Amanda? Well,
Speaker 2: I'm so curious. I am so cure with my mother. Why, okay,
Speaker 2: it sounds like you hate this guy. I mean that
Speaker 2: you sounded like you were so stoked that he was gone.
Speaker 2: Why why have you been with him? Why have you
Speaker 2: been with him for so long? If you don't like
Speaker 2: him this much.
Speaker 3: I didn't used to feel this way. I didn't used
Speaker 3: to feel this way. And I was so devastated when
Speaker 3: when it got to the point where we had to
Speaker 3: live separately. But then after a few weeks, maybe like
Speaker 3: a month or two of it, I got into, like,
Speaker 3: you know, just a good flow and I had I
Speaker 3: just realized how how much more relaxed and easy things
Speaker 3: were and felt. And then all of a sudden he
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm gone, I get to move back.
Speaker 3: And it was real quick, and I just felt so bad.
Speaker 3: I just felt so bad to say no. But now
Speaker 3: it's just like snowballed into this fucking mountain of resentment.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Like he left to go to the gym. You know
Speaker 3: how stoked I was for that.
Speaker 2: It did. Okay, you gotta you gotta leave this guy?
Speaker 2: You hate? You do not you hate this guy? How long?
Speaker 2: How long have you known that you don't like being
Speaker 2: around this guy?
Speaker 3: Probably probably since he moved back into like about eight months?
Speaker 2: Eight months? Oh wow? Okay, and the the your your son?
Speaker 2: That's not his, is it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, it's just mine, all right.
Speaker 2: Is there any reason to not leave this guy? You don't?
Speaker 3: Oh not, other than like making sure all of my
Speaker 3: finances would be lined up, you know, so it was
Speaker 3: smooth for my transition to one just one income. But
Speaker 3: that's about it. And I just feel bad. I just
Speaker 3: feel shitty about it. Yeah, but I know I'm shitty
Speaker 3: of me to stay.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, of course. I mean, if you don't like
Speaker 2: this guy, then there's no reason for either of you
Speaker 2: to be together.
Speaker 3: I know, because, like I said in the text, the
Speaker 3: thought of making a list for being asked for one,
Speaker 3: you know, and like Hulk movies when he gets so
Speaker 3: angry and he does that double fist like smash and
Speaker 3: throws the cars across the cities.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, that's what a list.
Speaker 3: The thought of making a list makes me feel like
Speaker 3: doing going and finding a vehicle outside and just fucking
Speaker 3: smashing it across the universe.
Speaker 2: Well, the fact that he says he needs a list
Speaker 2: is like a wi okay, okay, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Do you want to work it out? Do you want
Speaker 2: to be like, hey, listen, man, you gotta stop, you
Speaker 2: gotta not be like this or else I'm gone, Or
Speaker 2: do you want to just leave?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't think that would work
Speaker 3: because I've tried that. I did try that a lot.
Speaker 3: I tried really hard, honestly, just because I I'm a
Speaker 3: very you know, if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do it right, and I'm gonna do it all the
Speaker 3: way and I'm gonna apply myself. But then it was
Speaker 3: just like, you know, you can only say something so
Speaker 3: many times and then you realize this, this isn't gonna change.
Speaker 3: You're not sorry, You're not going to try, You're not
Speaker 3: gonna you don't care and I think I don't know
Speaker 3: what I think. I think you're just a child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's just the financial reasons to not leave
Speaker 2: pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: M well, I mean, listen, my opinion is of course
Speaker 2: that like there's no there's just nothing. It's just there's
Speaker 2: nothing really here. It sounds like, you know, like there's
Speaker 2: no Yeah. So uh, I mean, if you guys don't
Speaker 2: have a kid together and there's no reason to really
Speaker 2: be with each other, then I think it sounds like
Speaker 2: you're I mean you're not You're not even groveling about it.
Speaker 2: You're not even like should I or shouldn't I? You're
Speaker 2: very like, oh, I don't like this guy.
Speaker 3: I know, I know. I think the main thing is
Speaker 3: really just the guilt about it.
Speaker 2: Mmm mmm uh, I don't. I don't think you need
Speaker 2: to be guilty, you know. I mean, I think this guy,
Speaker 2: I don't really know this guy's deal, right, but like
Speaker 2: I think I think there. I think the greater guilt
Speaker 2: is to be found in staying with someone that you
Speaker 2: don't want.
Speaker 3: To be with, right, Yeah, just waste all that time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a bit of a waste of time.
Speaker 2: So if I were you, I would just uh, I
Speaker 2: would relinquish myself of that guilt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I want to talk to you about my
Speaker 3: dad also, sure, Okay, So my dad, my dad was
Speaker 3: a seal. Him and my mom were real rocky, and
Speaker 3: my mom would like leave and then come back, leave,
Speaker 3: come back because my dad was psycho. That's why I
Speaker 3: should get that. So for long. My dad retired from
Speaker 3: the Navy when I was about eight or nine because
Speaker 3: of their divorce, and all of the family, their parents
Speaker 3: on both sides all lived in Oklahoma, so we left
Speaker 3: California for Oklahoma. The second my dad leaves the Navy,
Speaker 3: he gets on drugs. He leaves the Navy for a day,
Speaker 3: I feel like and it was like he just went
Speaker 3: straight to partying and my dad went crazy. He also
Speaker 3: raised me and my sister by hisself while on this
Speaker 3: drug roller coaster life till I was about twelve. It
Speaker 3: was not a healthy environment at all. It was very,
Speaker 3: very up and down. You didn't know if it was
Speaker 3: going to be a happy day or a sad day.
Speaker 3: It could be really fun. I mean my dad used
Speaker 3: to take me to Fort, the preacher's yards and the
Speaker 3: little town we lived in, or we would go ding
Speaker 3: ding Dong ditch the mayor. You know, he taught me
Speaker 3: good life lessons, but that was like more the more
Speaker 3: time that went by, the very few and in between
Speaker 3: those kind of good days word But and then when
Speaker 3: I was twelve, my mom finally got us, and then
Speaker 3: my dad. I got out of school ninth grade one
Speaker 3: day and had a voicemail. My dad was like going
Speaker 3: to Alaska bye. And then I didn't see him till
Speaker 3: I was eighteen, which he had gone because he had
Speaker 3: pretty sure he'd like snitched on somebody or something and
Speaker 3: he'd gotten himself into a lot of trouble, so he
Speaker 3: had to leave the area. But finally, like I get
Speaker 3: to be nineteen, I have my son. My dad decides
Speaker 3: that means he needs to come back. And he seems
Speaker 3: to be doing better, you know so, but it's always
Speaker 3: his cycle. He's good, he gets a job, he does great.
Speaker 3: Then you can tell he's like doing drugs again. It'll
Speaker 3: suddenly take him six hours to show up when you
Speaker 3: guys have plans, and then it gets like the worse
Speaker 3: off he is on, you know, the cycle he's going through,
Speaker 3: he gets pretty awful, like some mean, evil coord person.
Speaker 3: But I always knew that if my dad had been
Speaker 3: not on drugs, he would have been the best at
Speaker 3: ever he's. It's just so crazy the night and day
Speaker 3: difference him sober or not. And I always had a
Speaker 3: lot of like anger issues growing up. It took me
Speaker 3: a lot to like not be a very angry, mean person,
Speaker 3: I guess, which I do very well now. I like
Speaker 3: control myself. I don't freak out. I'm not screaming at people.
Speaker 3: I just you know, I can't change shit. I just
Speaker 3: have to let it go. I'm not going to stress
Speaker 3: about it. But so my dad was always that person
Speaker 3: I had that I could relate to about it. You know.
Speaker 3: He knew the kind of like anger I felt inside
Speaker 3: of my body when I was angry, like nobody else
Speaker 3: could ever understand. I could call my dad and say
Speaker 3: them most awful, just horrible things that I was thinking
Speaker 3: at the moment, and he would be like, Okay, you
Speaker 3: feel better, Yeah, cool, thanks, you know, Whereas if I
Speaker 3: were to call my mom or sister, they'd be like,
Speaker 3: please don't talk like that, Amanda, that's not very nice,
Speaker 3: you know. So that was just I don't know, even
Speaker 3: though I knew he was shitty, he still understood me
Speaker 3: and there were still little pieces of him that I
Speaker 3: had was it was like solid, no matter what he
Speaker 3: might like, go through his cycle where he's good, bad,
Speaker 3: falls off, he disappears for a while, but then he
Speaker 3: comes back. But and every time he goes through a cycle,
Speaker 3: there's always a girlfriend. And my dad doesn't date women
Speaker 3: his age. For instance, right now, he's my dad's sixty five,
Speaker 3: and I think his girlfriend is a year older than me.
Speaker 3: She's thirty six or thirty five. So, and my dad's
Speaker 3: very obsessed about like dying and getting old. And I
Speaker 3: don't know, it's very weird, but he'll only get younger women.
Speaker 2: And what do you mean, I'm obsessed with dying and
Speaker 2: getting old. But he talks about it a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the I mean, it's always been a thing
Speaker 3: he's mentioned throughout life. I can regularly remember having a conversation.
Speaker 3: He's scared. I think he's scared he's going to go
Speaker 3: to Hell. My dad's a pretty firm believer in heaven
Speaker 3: and hell, and I'm not religious really, so that's always
Speaker 3: been a thing between us. But he's very terrified he's
Speaker 3: going to die and he'll go to Hell and then
Speaker 3: that nobody here on earth will remember him.
Speaker 2: Whoa and he's told that to you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, my dad, He's I've been his little
Speaker 3: friend that he would just chat with since him and
Speaker 3: my mom separated, little like dad. It's ridiculous, but then
Speaker 3: it's understandable because I feel like if you if you're
Speaker 3: in a religion that you believe punishes people, and based
Speaker 3: on the things that I know my dad has done,
Speaker 3: if there was a Hell, I'm I do believe he
Speaker 3: would probably go wow, yeah, Like I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't believe in I don't believe in that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff because I just feel like, even if there
Speaker 3: was a god, I don't want to be a part
Speaker 3: or a follower of something that would create us and
Speaker 3: know that we have a fucked up life ahead of us,
Speaker 3: If that makes sense. You know, like a little kid
Speaker 3: doesn't know that free will is why they're getting beat
Speaker 3: or you know, like awful things happen to them. It
Speaker 3: seems like if you try to get an answer about
Speaker 3: anything like that, they're like, well, do you just have
Speaker 3: to give it to God? God knows he wouldn't give
Speaker 3: you something he couldn't handle. Uh, pretty sure he's doing
Speaker 3: that all the time. Because I'm seeing lots of people
Speaker 3: with late school of things they are not able to handle.
Speaker 2: So so how often are you do you chat with
Speaker 2: the guy anymore?
Speaker 3: So we've always throughout all of these years, been pretty
Speaker 3: consistent talking until about I think it's officially been a
Speaker 3: year since I've spoken to my dad on the phone.
Speaker 3: Other than I think two or three times I've text him,
Speaker 3: but it was about stuff for my son, like stuff
Speaker 3: about my son's sports, or like you know, competitions, like
Speaker 3: good news about my son, or when my dad has
Speaker 3: tried to get sympathy, Oh, I have a doctor's appointment.
Speaker 3: But he got this new young girlfriend and Stee got
Speaker 3: this new young girlfriend, and he was already dating somebody
Speaker 3: at the time who was like a very spin active
Speaker 3: in my life since I was young. Like her and
Speaker 3: my dad go back to high school. They've known each
Speaker 3: other and been off and on that long. And my
Speaker 3: dad was just being really awful to her during the
Speaker 3: meeting the younger girl and deciding he was leaving the
Speaker 3: girlfriend for the new young one. And I wasn't supportive
Speaker 3: of it, you know. It wasn't like I tried to
Speaker 3: stop it, but I don't want to be I don't
Speaker 3: want to hear about it. I don't need to be included.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's right or you should be treating
Speaker 3: her that way, So just don't involve me, Like, just
Speaker 3: keep that to yourself. I don't need Because my dad
Speaker 3: has this habit of like when he does things that
Speaker 3: are not okay, he'll call you and tell you that
Speaker 3: someone else said this negative thing about him. But whatever
Speaker 3: that negative thing is is what he did, and he's
Speaker 3: trying to plan to seed to make it look like
Speaker 3: he didn't be that and people were talking crap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll say this. I mean, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: down to just let you chat about it for as
Speaker 2: much as you want to talk about But the tough
Speaker 2: part about stuff, especially like with your parents and shit
Speaker 2: is like at six, I hate to be like this,
Speaker 2: but at sixty five, at a certain point, man, it's
Speaker 2: like at a certain point, I feel like people, if
Speaker 2: they were going to change, they would have. And so
Speaker 2: it's kind of just like up to you as to
Speaker 2: like how much you want to tolerate or not. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know I have limited him from that, but uh,
Speaker 2: that's kind of my gut feeling at least right now,
Speaker 2: in this point of my life, and I.
Speaker 3: Think that's right. I had accepted a long time ago,
Speaker 3: like if I was going to maintain anything with my dad,
Speaker 3: I needed to realize, you know, he's never going to
Speaker 3: be better. This is what it is, and I'll just
Speaker 3: have this or I'll have nothing. But then when I
Speaker 3: didn't support this new girlfriend switch last year, he just
Speaker 3: like lost it on my sister and I. He was like,
Speaker 3: if you guys can't be supportive, then I don't need
Speaker 3: you in my life. Like he's the one that cut
Speaker 3: it off. He's the one that cut contact. Basically said
Speaker 3: the I, my sister and I were negative negativity that
Speaker 3: he didn't need. And he was so in love with
Speaker 3: this girl, like he's never been in love before. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about. You've had like four wives up,
Speaker 3: you're always in love like this. So we had that
Speaker 3: big falling out fight and then I still was trying
Speaker 3: to maintain, you know, something with them relationship wise. But
Speaker 3: my my final straw was I was on the phone
Speaker 3: with him. I had called him because I was discussing
Speaker 3: Helen Keller. To be very honest, I was telling him
Speaker 3: how I think that Helen Keller while she may be real.
Speaker 3: I don't think she's quite the the pioneer.
Speaker 2: For you were letting it behind, you were letting it
Speaker 2: be down that you don't fuck with Helen Keller.
Speaker 3: Yes, And my dad was like, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, just you know, my dad would always
Speaker 3: have conversations like this with me, like we're just talking
Speaker 3: and when all of a sudden, this girlfriend, I can
Speaker 3: hear her in the background. She's she does fuck with
Speaker 3: Helen Keller. She's hard like it was very crazy, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, yeah, And that didn't sit right with you? Well,
Speaker 3: I mean it didn't. I didn't. I wasn't going to
Speaker 3: say anything. It didn't sit right with me because I don't.
Speaker 3: I think that means you're not thinking very hard. Wait
Speaker 3: wait wait.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait wait wait hold on. If you're not all
Speaker 2: right the way this is going to increase the length
Speaker 2: of this conversation by about forty five minutes. But I
Speaker 2: do have to ask, why why do you hate Helen Keller.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't hate her. I just don't think
Speaker 3: that she I don't see how anybody taught her to
Speaker 3: do all of these things. When if you can't see
Speaker 3: and you can't speak in here. How do you know
Speaker 3: what the apple you're feeling is? Is an apple? Well?
Speaker 3: That's hard.
Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. That's why she that's why everyone
Speaker 2: loves her is because you know, she did the impossible thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's pretty impossible. I just
Speaker 3: don't see how she did it and well filled by it?
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, hold, this is a whole new angle
Speaker 2: to this phone call. Why do you Why are you
Speaker 2: offended by Helen? Why are you offended by it? Are
Speaker 2: you blind and deaf?
Speaker 3: I'm not, But I think that she's They're making her
Speaker 3: out to be this crazy, pioneering, you know, woman figure.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of women out there that are
Speaker 3: probably doing great things and overcoming a lot of challenges.
Speaker 3: So don't lie about the ones you're overcoming. And I
Speaker 3: just don't see how it makes sense that she learned
Speaker 3: those things, Because if you can't show it to me
Speaker 3: and I can't hear it and I can't see it,
Speaker 3: how do I know what it means when I feel it?
Speaker 2: Damn, Helen Cole, I thought that for some reason, I
Speaker 2: thought Hally Color died young. She mentioned like eighty seven.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Did she she uh, how did she
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Oh, oh, and Sullivan, and I remember all this ship
Speaker 2: basically this this, this, this this lady and Sullivan I
Speaker 2: like like put her hands in certain positions that like
Speaker 2: she like would feel Anne Sullivan's hands and like use
Speaker 2: it to like learn like uh sign language or something
Speaker 2: like that. That's how I remember it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the story I remember too, and I've just
Speaker 3: spent a lot doesn't make sense, and it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: I can't wrap my head around it. And I've devoted
Speaker 3: more time of my life than I probably have to try,
Speaker 3: and or that I probably should have. But when I
Speaker 3: was talking to my dad about that, this girlfriend comes
Speaker 3: in and she's like, she did do that, and she
Speaker 3: did learn all of those things and she flew a plane.
Speaker 3: I was like what.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait she did she did fly a plane.
Speaker 2: I mean she didn't really fly a plane. She flew
Speaker 2: a plane in the way that like a little kid,
Speaker 2: uh like flies the flies a plane when the pilot's like,
Speaker 2: do you want to fly a plane? Like? I think
Speaker 2: the plot, by the way, this is all misinformation. I
Speaker 2: fucking know what I'm talking about, But I think the
Speaker 2: pilot had the plane on like auto whatever, and then
Speaker 2: she just like sat in the front and like held
Speaker 2: the stuff well on it look honestly technically on technicality,
Speaker 2: totally flew a plane, right.
Speaker 3: But this girlfriend, I think she thought that Helen took
Speaker 3: the plane like controlled the takeoff, navigated, did all of
Speaker 3: it while blind. And so all of a sudden, my
Speaker 3: dad switches up on me and starts acting like I'm
Speaker 3: stupid in the conversation like it was crazy, just total
Speaker 3: one to eighty, like we're going back and forth, and
Speaker 3: my dad and I disagree on a lot of shit,
Speaker 3: so like we can always, you know, have these little
Speaker 3: debates or talks. But it was like when she came
Speaker 3: through for Helen, so did my dad in a very
Speaker 3: condescending way. And it was I don't know, I was
Speaker 3: I was so mad. I just got off the phone
Speaker 3: with him, and I just haven't spoken with him on
Speaker 3: the phone since he ll now from behind the grave,
Speaker 3: yeah not even here. And she doesn't know the impact
Speaker 3: she's made on my life. And so I've always thought
Speaker 3: I was cool with you know, this is my dad,
Speaker 3: this is what it is, Take it or leave it.
Speaker 3: But then now that I've like actually cut him off,
Speaker 3: like for good, and I'm just not going to tolerate
Speaker 3: it because like my little sister, she's four years younger
Speaker 3: than me, and she will tolerate all of their negativity
Speaker 3: and hit for my dad. She'll like go take him
Speaker 3: to lunch and then he'll be mean. She were the whole.
Speaker 2: Amanda, Amanda, Amanda. I'm gonna sorry, Amanda. I'm gonna let
Speaker 2: you go in a second, but I just I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say this. I do think that at a certain point
Speaker 2: it is a thing of like it sucks. By the way,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that you're having these issues with
Speaker 2: your dad, but I do think at a certain point
Speaker 2: with your with your folks, it's like you can't really
Speaker 2: expect them to you can't expect them to change. You
Speaker 2: have to either like you have to just like limit
Speaker 2: the amount of time that you specifically limit the amount
Speaker 2: of time you spend talking about Helen Keller with your
Speaker 2: dad or honestly, you sound like it's the Helen Keller
Speaker 2: stuff is the stuff I'm more concerned about, because it
Speaker 2: sounds like you have a some obsession with Helen Keller
Speaker 2: and now it's rubbing off on me. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: pay attention. But I'm also scrolling through Helen Keller's Wikipedia page.
Speaker 2: Did you know she went to Japan to try to
Speaker 2: to try to find out more about how Chiko, the
Speaker 2: loyal dog who searched for his deceased master for ten years.
Speaker 2: You know about how Chico?
Speaker 3: I don't, And I don't know how she knew about
Speaker 3: the dog either, because, dude, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, I think, you're right. I think this is
Speaker 2: I think her. Yeah, I think her.
Speaker 3: Whole thing, the Kerry Tree with George Washington. I think
Speaker 3: that's the whole point of Helen was just the teachers,
Speaker 3: you could do things that are impossible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. I guess you're right. How did she
Speaker 2: even know about dogs?
Speaker 3: Yeah? She never seen it. She's felt something soft.
Speaker 2: But that's I think, like, hold on, look she has
Speaker 2: she just she's she's a picture of her with Yeah,
Speaker 2: she loves these Japanese dogs. Man, that's crazy. She had
Speaker 2: a dog named go Go. It's not accurate.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, she you know she's from an American breed.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: She was an opponent of Woodrow Wilson. Did you know
Speaker 2: that she did not like Woodrow Wilson?
Speaker 3: I did not. You're just on the Wikipedia because now
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 2: Do I'm sorry. I shouldn't. No, I'm sorry, I should
Speaker 2: be I should be more, I should be more present
Speaker 2: with this conversation and not on the Wikipedia page of
Speaker 2: Helen Keller. And I'm not gonna blame you for putting
Speaker 2: me on there. But Amanda, is there anything else you
Speaker 2: want to say to the people of the computer before
Speaker 2: we go?
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't, but thanks thanks for letting me Ben.
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm glad you got to speak your piece.
Speaker 2: I hope things go better with your father. And I'll
Speaker 2: see you in the universe. I almost almost called you
Speaker 2: Helen for some reason. I'll see you around the universe. Goodbye, Amanda,
Speaker 2: Thank you, good luck. That was Amanda. Nice person. Hope
Speaker 2: things go well with their dad. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: we've talked about I feel bad for folks who have,
Speaker 2: you know, trouble with their folks. But there is a
Speaker 2: thing of like you can't like, you know, expect them
Speaker 2: to change. Who where she was born Helen Keller's father.
Speaker 2: Oh wait they were, Yeah, they had a bunch of slaves.
Speaker 2: Look at that. He served. Helen Keller's father served as
Speaker 2: a captain in the Confederate Army. The family was part
Speaker 2: of the slaveholding elite before the Civil War, but they
Speaker 2: lost their slaveholding status afterwards. Yeah, I guess that makes
Speaker 2: sense that Helen Keller's family had slaves. I don't know
Speaker 2: why that makes sense, but it makes sense. All right,
Speaker 2: let's talk about something else.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hey, dude, is this real?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: Uh? As far as as far as we know, as
Speaker 2: far as we know. What's your name? Man? Hi?
Speaker 4: Uh, I'll go by. Uh, I'll go by.
Speaker 2: Beast, beast? What are you doing, beast? Are you doing
Speaker 2: right now? What are you doing?
Speaker 4: I just got off work, brother, I'm a mail man.
Speaker 2: Oh, we've had some mail men on the show before.
Speaker 2: What what's going on in the male world?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: Uh, it's not as glamorous as it would seem, you know.
Speaker 4: I know that. I know that Back in the day,
Speaker 4: being a male carrier was considered to be a pretty good, uh,
Speaker 4: a pretty good job because of the fact that, you know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of I'm pretty sure a lot of
Speaker 4: people grew up seeing the same mail man every day,
Speaker 4: and if they had a conversation with him, it's probably
Speaker 4: the type of guy that would how can I say it,
Speaker 4: It's probably the type of guy that was putting his
Speaker 4: kids through college, own his own house. So it's not
Speaker 4: like that anymore, unfortunately, and the times that we're living
Speaker 4: in you already know how the economy is and stuff.
Speaker 4: But you know, I know that's a that's a whole
Speaker 4: other spiel. But you know, I'm just out here man,
Speaker 4: just trying to trying to pay my bills and stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a it's a cool job in the
Speaker 4: CeNSE where like, for example, I'm an animal lover, so
Speaker 4: I like being able to say what's up to the
Speaker 4: cats or the dogs. But other than that, I mean, shit,
Speaker 4: you know who wouldn't want to get paid more?
Speaker 2: So you're saying that it used to be back in
Speaker 2: the day, you used to be able to actually support
Speaker 2: your family by being a mailman, but now it's still
Speaker 2: a struggle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I And to elaborate that a little bit more,
Speaker 4: I'd say, like, for example, back in the day, I
Speaker 4: know that they would just pretty much work there. They're
Speaker 4: eight hours. I know overtime was a thing, like it'd
Speaker 4: been a thing, but I just feel like back in
Speaker 4: the day, you could work your your regular just eight
Speaker 4: hours and you would have enough to pay your bills,
Speaker 4: take care of your responsibilities as well as having some
Speaker 4: extra money on the side, you know, for playtime. You know,
Speaker 4: whether you want to go out with your girl or
Speaker 4: by yourself something. And nowadays it's like, dude, I work overtime.
Speaker 4: There's times where I do ten to twelve hours a
Speaker 4: day and I'm still kind of like, shit, dude, I
Speaker 4: wish I had more money in my pocket.
Speaker 2: You know, how many hours a day are you are
Speaker 2: you working? How many hours a week are typically working?
Speaker 4: I want to say I'll at least do maybe like
Speaker 4: fifty fifty five plus. Sometimes it just depends on you know,
Speaker 4: the time of year. Two like when I'm you when
Speaker 4: I worked sixty plus is like I want to say,
Speaker 4: like the holiday season. As of right now, I mean,
Speaker 4: what's it called? The mails not that heavy obviously Mondays
Speaker 4: or the heaviest days just because it's the beginning of
Speaker 4: the week. But aside from that, I mean today I
Speaker 4: just did an eight hour shift. So right now I'm
Speaker 4: about a clock out at four thirty. I'm just kind
Speaker 4: of chilling in my work truck till it's time to
Speaker 4: clock out.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, you texted me something I forgot that you
Speaker 2: texted me something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I texted you a couple of times.
Speaker 2: You said, I want to talk about how I hate
Speaker 2: my sister.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what's it called. If you want to
Speaker 4: get into that, I'm doing to get into that.
Speaker 2: I mean, sure, man, it's up to you. What's going
Speaker 2: on with her?
Speaker 4: Okay, let me just take a little sip of water
Speaker 4: really quick. Okay, So it's a very long story, but
Speaker 4: if I can short in it the most possible long
Speaker 4: story short, I haven't talked to my sister in over
Speaker 4: a year already, and the reason why we haven't talked
Speaker 4: is because I get it may be a little bit
Speaker 4: me in the sense where I kind of set it off,
Speaker 4: but to just break it down to you as quickly
Speaker 4: as possible, she doesn't get along with my fiance now.
Speaker 4: And I've been with my fiance for what we have
Speaker 4: been dating for I want to say twelve years, but
Speaker 4: we just recently got engaged last year. But I haven't
Speaker 4: talked to my sister since last March. So basically the
Speaker 4: reason why is because Jesus doesn't appreciate my girl and
Speaker 4: what my girl does for her, especially because she doesn't
Speaker 4: think that I like her boyfriend. And it's not even that,
Speaker 4: it's just I really haven't gotten to know the guy.
Speaker 4: And there was a situation that happened back in the
Speaker 4: day where she heard me say something and she heard wrong.
Speaker 4: So we kind of had like a falling out, and
Speaker 4: it was over her boyfriend. She thought I was talking
Speaker 4: smack on her boyfriend when it really wasn't like that.
Speaker 4: It was just kind of me trying to say, like, hey,
Speaker 4: like I don't even know the guy that you're dating.
Speaker 4: I would like to know who my sister is dating,
Speaker 4: because before this whole falling out, like me and my
Speaker 4: sister had a really good relationship and like, you know,
Speaker 4: like I love my sister, like you know that she
Speaker 4: was my rid or died, which is why I do
Speaker 4: feel her by this situation, but I kind of try
Speaker 4: not to think about it, especially after so much time
Speaker 4: has passed. But anyways, so when that whole fall now happened,
Speaker 4: I took it upon myself to reach out to her boyfriend.
Speaker 4: I didn't even tell her that I was going to
Speaker 4: reach out to him, and I was like, hey, like
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you heard what happened, but I just
Speaker 4: kind of want to clear things up with you, and
Speaker 4: we were able to clear things up relatively quick, like
Speaker 4: it wasn't it wasn't anything crazy or serious, and I'm
Speaker 4: sure that he was able to understand that. And that's
Speaker 4: why I kind of feel hurt too, because it's kind
Speaker 4: of like, dude, like, I know you you can't expect
Speaker 4: people to do the same things that you would do.
Speaker 4: But I just kind of took it as like, dude, like,
Speaker 4: like I went ahead and I made peace with your
Speaker 4: boyfriend even after it was a misunderstanding. Why can't you
Speaker 4: do the same with my girl? And the whole thing
Speaker 4: that set it off was there was going to be
Speaker 4: a barbecue. My sister was invited to the barbecue by
Speaker 4: my friend who was throwing the barbecue, and my sister
Speaker 4: ended up wanting to go. And I just felt some
Speaker 4: type of way because when I told my girl about
Speaker 4: my sister going, she's like, oh, like, why didn't you
Speaker 4: tell me about that? And uh, I you know, she
Speaker 4: has a right to, like, you know, feel some type
Speaker 4: of way, but I just felt some type of way
Speaker 4: at the fact that I'm like, dude, like, why am
Speaker 4: I putting so much effort into keeping two people that
Speaker 4: I love apart? So after that phone call, I'll stop
Speaker 4: I'll stop talking if you if you want to interject.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just trying to follow here. But basically,
Speaker 2: the gist of what I'm getting. The gist of what
Speaker 2: I'm hearing is that your sister and your fiance do
Speaker 2: not like each other.
Speaker 4: No, if not, I would have came out and said that,
Speaker 4: it's more so my sister and I don't know what
Speaker 4: type of problem she has with with my fiance. Like,
Speaker 4: sometimes I think that she's a little bit envious of her,
Speaker 4: even though I know for a fact my sister wouldn't
Speaker 4: flat out say that. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 4: just kind of like, like, you don't really have a
Speaker 4: reason to hate her, Like, why is it that you
Speaker 4: don't like her? I watch her straight up before.
Speaker 2: Why is your sister envious of your girlfriend?
Speaker 3: She?
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I don't know if she would
Speaker 4: straight up say that. Knowing my sister, she probably wouldn't
Speaker 4: straight up say that. But my my feeling is my
Speaker 4: sister is the type of person to like, she's that
Speaker 4: she's that girl that like, she's very pretty and she
Speaker 4: gets a lot of attention, but she's also very conceited
Speaker 4: in the sense where like she's always taking pictures of
Speaker 4: herself and trying to promote like a lifestyle that she's
Speaker 4: living that it's it's really not what it is, you know,
Speaker 4: Like she makes it seem like like she's rising and
Speaker 4: rolls royces.
Speaker 2: That's your sister, that's your that's your sister, right.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's my sister. So I think that because my
Speaker 4: sister tries to portray this life that she lives, and
Speaker 4: she sees that my my fiance, we're not the type
Speaker 4: of people. We're not flashy or anything like that. We're
Speaker 4: not even rich, if I'm being straight up with you.
Speaker 4: But my girl, she's a real go getter and everything
Speaker 4: that she's accomplished, she's accomplished it on her own. I've
Speaker 4: obviously been there to support her, but obviously I can't
Speaker 4: do the work for her. So you know, my girl
Speaker 4: has a masters, My girl's a she's a medical social worker.
Speaker 4: And yeah, my girl really like she has a good
Speaker 4: head on her shoulder. She's a smart cookie. So I
Speaker 4: just think, you know, it's kind of like a jealousy
Speaker 4: type of thing, like like, oh, I make myself out
Speaker 4: to look like I'm this type of like rich girl,
Speaker 4: but in reality, I look to my right and there's
Speaker 4: a girl that I feel like I'm competing with even
Speaker 4: though that's my brother's fiance. Does that make any sense?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, Okay, so your girl, basically your your sister
Speaker 2: is jealous of your fiance because your fiance is it
Speaker 2: sounds more successful than her and more motivated than she is. Yes,
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 4: And I mean it's it's kind of sad because, I mean,
Speaker 4: I never expected something like this to happen, especially because
Speaker 4: you know, I had a good relationship with my sister.
Speaker 4: I've always had a good relationship with my sister. But
Speaker 4: it just feels like, I don't know, like the only
Speaker 4: thing that I can really say, and I'm only saying
Speaker 4: this because obviously I've grown up with my sister and
Speaker 4: I know her for who she really is. But the
Speaker 4: only logical explanation that I can come up with is
Speaker 4: that you know, she's she's jealous of her, She's envious
Speaker 4: of her. Okay, it sounds I want to get your
Speaker 4: take on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my take on the listen, it sounds
Speaker 2: like your sister is. I mean, it sounds like the
Speaker 2: burdens on your sister, man, because if your sister wants
Speaker 2: to be like that, you can't really stop her from
Speaker 2: being like that. I mean, if you just wants to
Speaker 2: like be a dick, then you know you gotta tell her.
Speaker 2: I mean, have you told your sister to stop being
Speaker 2: a dick to your Yeah?
Speaker 4: We' we've had We've had conversations in the past. And
Speaker 4: what I was getting to, uh with that whole that
Speaker 4: whole thing about her, How can I say it? That
Speaker 4: whole thing with her wanting to go to the barbecue.
Speaker 4: I felt some type of way because I'm like, damn, like,
Speaker 4: why do I have to keep two people apart that
Speaker 4: I love? So what I went ahead and did was
Speaker 4: I called her and I'm not gonna lie to you
Speaker 4: get I gave her a piece of my mind, and
Speaker 4: like you know, I like I just kind of like
Speaker 4: just went on like you know, your your what I
Speaker 4: was like, your selfish, like you only think about yourself,
Speaker 4: and like, you know, maybe that's where I kind of
Speaker 4: went went wrong. But at the same time, I just
Speaker 4: didn't realize that everything that I was holding in like
Speaker 4: like I was holding stuff in and I never realized
Speaker 4: to put it that way. So basically, when I went
Speaker 4: off on her, I just kind of exploded, you know.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'll be honest with you too.
Speaker 4: I don't regret anything that I said, and I feel
Speaker 4: like everything that I said, I just kind of like
Speaker 4: got it off my chest, you know. So sorry if
Speaker 4: it gets a little loud, I'm going into the post
Speaker 4: office really quick just to drop off my scanner. But
Speaker 4: I'm off the clock so I can keep talking.
Speaker 2: That's all right, man. Uh, Well, I think fuck uh,
Speaker 2: I think it's okay. I think it's okay that you
Speaker 2: spoke your piece. Man. I think it's okay that you
Speaker 2: spoke your piece. You know, I mean that all I think.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say is that just let your sister be,
Speaker 2: Just let her. If this is your sister's problem, man,
Speaker 2: this isn't your fucking problem. And you told your sister
Speaker 2: to like chill the fuck out, and at this point
Speaker 2: it's like you, you know, you got to live your
Speaker 2: own life. But if she wants to be jailed, and
Speaker 2: let her be jailed, of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The The only reason why I kind of like,
Speaker 4: the only reason why I kind of feel like it's
Speaker 4: like not not only her problem, but also my problem too,
Speaker 4: is because it's it's me and my sister. And that's
Speaker 4: it like I don't I don't have any more immediate siblings.
Speaker 4: So the fact that like her and I have this problem,
Speaker 4: and then my mom's a single mom, so my mom's
Speaker 4: kind of stuck in the middle. It just it just
Speaker 4: kind of feels weird because, like, like I said, we
Speaker 4: all used to kind of have like a good relationship
Speaker 4: all with each other, and then now my mom's kind
Speaker 4: of stuck in the middle. And like I've spoke to
Speaker 4: her before and be like, hey, like I don't know
Speaker 4: if you've you've talked to your daughter, but Loki, you
Speaker 4: should kind of like try and slap some sense into her.
Speaker 4: And she says, she says, oh, well, like I've talked
Speaker 4: to her, but she feels like she is right. So
Speaker 4: it just feels like, honestly, nothing's ever going to get accomplished.
Speaker 4: But I've also made peace with the fact that, like,
Speaker 4: if my sister wants to be like that for the
Speaker 4: rest of her life, that's cool.
Speaker 2: What's your name again, mine?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll go by beast.
Speaker 2: Oh beast, yes, beast beast. My feeling is the is
Speaker 2: the last thing you just said where you're like, listen,
Speaker 2: if your sister wants to be like that, I say,
Speaker 2: you just let her be like that and like just
Speaker 2: live your life like like you know, minimize the amount
Speaker 2: of time that you spend around her and like just
Speaker 2: just let her be like that. But yeah, don't let
Speaker 2: it take up too much of your your mental energy. Man.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, it doesn't anymore because, like I said, we
Speaker 4: haven't talked in about like, uh it's it's been like
Speaker 4: about a year and like three months. And then aside
Speaker 4: from that, I moved out from my mom's house last November.
Speaker 4: So basically since last November, I don't I don't get
Speaker 4: to see her on a on a regular basis.
Speaker 2: Uh, beast, Is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Honestly, I just want to say that you're fucking awesome, dude.
Speaker 4: You helped me get through you. You helped me get
Speaker 4: through a lot of my work days. I kid you not.
Speaker 4: I listened to an episode of Yours every freaking day.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 4: I will also say that the nerves are definitely real
Speaker 4: people I know. Ghek always says that this is probably
Speaker 4: one of the lowest stake things that we would probably
Speaker 4: do in our lives. But even then, the nerves are real.
Speaker 2: A beast. Beast, you're a very sweet guy. Man, don't
Speaker 2: don't beast, you're a sweet guy. Don't freak out too
Speaker 2: much about anything, my friend, all right, you know, I hope.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if you're just nervous
Speaker 2: because you're on the phone, but I hope you're not
Speaker 2: generally nervous in life. You're a you're a sweet man.
Speaker 2: If there's a life after this one, I think I
Speaker 2: think God will hook you up in it.
Speaker 4: Ah, dude, thank you. I appreciate this, bro, And honestly,
Speaker 4: I hope this makes I hope this makes it onto
Speaker 4: a podcast so I can be walking delivering mail and
Speaker 4: at the same time be listening to our conversation on
Speaker 4: one of your podcasts.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Beast. You have a good rest of the day.
Speaker 4: Man, Thank you, Bro. I love you a good day.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Beast. Have a good one.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Damn, what a sweet nice guy. What a nice guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do? How do I that's
Speaker 2: he's just a what a nice guy. Sometimes I talk
Speaker 2: to someone and they're just such a like like a
Speaker 2: wholesome person that I'm like, what do I do with
Speaker 2: the not? What do I do with the knowledge that
Speaker 2: you exist. Now, you know what I mean? How do
Speaker 2: I I know it's done making any fun. I know
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any fucking sense, but I'm just like, man,
Speaker 2: this is a real nice guy. I hope I hope
Speaker 2: it doesn't freak out too much. Yeah, don't freak out.
Speaker 2: Don't freak out anyway, folks, that was the Therapy Eco podcast.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed listening. Please leave me leave
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Speaker 2: if you're not listening on Spotify for listening somewhere else,
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Speaker 2: I think that's it, man, I think that's all we
Speaker 2: have to say. We talked to our sports betting friend,
Speaker 2: we talked to Amanda, we talked to a very nice
Speaker 2: mail man. We keep talking to people. We keep talking
Speaker 2: to people people, and we'll be doing that. We'll just
Speaker 2: keep doing it. We'll keep talking to people. We'll keep
Speaker 2: being a gecko. And I think I think we did
Speaker 2: a podcast. It feels like we did another day at
Speaker 2: the office. Feels like we did a podcast. I hope
Speaker 2: you guys enjoyed listening to it. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: We'll do another one next week, and then the week
Speaker 2: after that, and the week after that, and the week
Speaker 2: after that. We'll do it for forty years and then
Speaker 2: we'll die. That's a SpongeBob reference. I like that show, SpongeBob.
Speaker 2: I wonder what he's doing now, SpongeBob. I wonder where
Speaker 2: he is, wonder what he's thinking about. Okay, thank you guys.
Speaker 2: Ghat bless you all, see you around the universe. Goes
Speaker 2: on the line, taking your phone calls every night. Becon
Speaker 2: goes to it and ride.
Speaker 4: He's teaching you a loud your life, but he's not
Speaker 4: really an expert.