WEBVTT - The War on Trans People: Part 4, The Legislative Onslaught

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I love is decadent Western sexual mores. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that actually does tie you into what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>What you were reading, Jesus Dear God when I when

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<v Speaker 1>I logged into this call an hour late, Garrison was

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<v Speaker 1>studiously reading reading a book by with the screen centered

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<v Speaker 1>on the cover. We gotta bleep this out and have it,

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<v Speaker 1>have it be the new thing that's bleeped out. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that. Actually, yes, good call. That way, we

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<v Speaker 1>can just do a whole series of jokes where we

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<v Speaker 1>just like pill people on fascist esotericism. What a what

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<v Speaker 1>a fun joke that would be happen here show we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about things that could happen, of about just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the onslaught of of bills that have been introduced

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<v Speaker 1>the past few months that attacking kind of trans rights

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<v Speaker 1>and queer people in general. Yeah, so we've we've we

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard about gay marriage, We've heard about turfs a

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<v Speaker 1>lot the past the past few episodes, and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be kind of focusing on the Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the kind of current legislation that's happened specifically

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<v Speaker 1>within the past six months, um that I've been targeting

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<v Speaker 1>kind of LGBTQ people in in schools, particularly that, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's been targeted towards towards miners, teen teens, adolescents,

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<v Speaker 1>UM and restricting the visibility and uh and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what's allowed to be said and mentioned in schools. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna kind of actually talk about UM books first,

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of this stuff is kind of tied

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<v Speaker 1>into the critical race theory UM kind of like organizing

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<v Speaker 1>that the right was doing. So. Yeah. The American Library

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<v Speaker 1>Association says that between September and December alone, they received

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<v Speaker 1>more than three thirty reports of book challenges, for which

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<v Speaker 1>is the most over two decades in terms of people

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<v Speaker 1>trying to restrict what books are allowed to be in schools. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I experienced a book challenge lately. Tell you what, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to read through the new James Patterson book. What do

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<v Speaker 1>either of you know who James Patterson is? No? Was

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<v Speaker 1>this was this was a bad idea on my back?

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<v Speaker 1>Please continue, Garrison, I was. I was busy reading the

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<v Speaker 1>before you logged on. I have a different interest in books.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, actually very similar books, very similar and the

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<v Speaker 1>Pelican brief basically identical. I have no idea how much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna get bleeped, but it's gonna be funny. Um

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah. A Tennessee school's removal of Mars the Holocaust

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<v Speaker 1>graphic biography became kind of the most famous example of

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<v Speaker 1>this trend a few months ago. Um, the book was

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly banned due to due to nudity and because of

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<v Speaker 1>curse words. But this is kind of you know it was.

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<v Speaker 1>They claimed it had nothing to do with actual political content. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just because of the the inappropriate images to children,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a little a little dubious since it's all

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<v Speaker 1>you know, starring mice. Um yeah, yeah. But the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of challenged books have been kind of those focused on

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<v Speaker 1>lgbt Q characters or themes. Back in November, nearly two

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<v Speaker 1>dozen people a day we're dying from COVID nineteen in

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. Thank god that god better. Thank god we

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<v Speaker 1>knocked that ship out. But rather than try to handle

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<v Speaker 1>the public health crisis, Governor Henry McMaster seemed more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in pressuring the state's Department of Education to crack down

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<v Speaker 1>on queer theme two books. He directed the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Education and the State Board of Education to create quote,

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<v Speaker 1>statewide standards and directives prevent pornography and other obscene content

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<v Speaker 1>from entering our state's public schools and libraries of the

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<v Speaker 1>Governor said in a letter to the Superintendent of Education.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside the letter, it was specifically targeted towards uh Maya

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe's book Gender Queer, a Memoir UM, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>gender queer graphic novel kind of detailing what it's what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be gender queer. It's definitely popular among

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the adult like a young adult kind of

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<v Speaker 1>age range and and as and as a good resource

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<v Speaker 1>for kind of gender bending type stuff. Um and it

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<v Speaker 1>has faced a large amount of a large amount of

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<v Speaker 1>the onslaught and like the bashing of queer books have

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<v Speaker 1>been focused on this specific book. It's an autobiographical book

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<v Speaker 1>based on the Bay Area non binary writer and the

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<v Speaker 1>illustrator UM. It's been challenged and it started being challenged

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<v Speaker 1>at one of South Carolina's nearly five hundred schools and

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<v Speaker 1>then got banned from all of them just because people

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<v Speaker 1>were mad at about it. At one school, it was

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<v Speaker 1>being recommended for those in the tenth grade or higher

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<v Speaker 1>to learn about kind of queer issues UM and it

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<v Speaker 1>is now become one of the most banned books of

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<v Speaker 1>this past year. It's been removed from schools in Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, Florida, North and South Carolina, Texas, and a

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<v Speaker 1>large amount of other states in the South. Um. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of Texas, the Agenda Queer Graphic novel was just

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<v Speaker 1>one part of a massive kind of horrifying purge led

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<v Speaker 1>by Texas Republican state Representative Matt cross Uh. He he

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<v Speaker 1>led an effort to pressure and forced schools and libraries

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<v Speaker 1>to remove books based on a list of undesirable reads

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<v Speaker 1>that he compiled himself. Um. The list is a sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>page spreadsheet with over eight hundred and fifty books cataloged

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<v Speaker 1>on Crouse's eight hundred and fifty strong list of titles

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<v Speaker 1>that he wants spanned from Texas libraries, of them concerned

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<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ issues. Um, it's kind of clear that what he

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<v Speaker 1>did this, Yeah, well what what what? What? What he

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<v Speaker 1>did to make this list is just like googling the

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<v Speaker 1>words like queer and l g b t Q and

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<v Speaker 1>g and trans like with book and just found a

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<v Speaker 1>list of books that have it like mentioned to somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>so like a lot of so many books are just

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<v Speaker 1>like completely a banned that aren't even really like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like the list is nearly one thousand books, like log

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<v Speaker 1>so like he was just like Google searching to like

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<v Speaker 1>add as many books to lists as that he could.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not actually about the content beyond the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the content acknowledge the existence of queer people. Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's to the extent that he knows about the content.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, Like, you can't be reading all these books no,

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<v Speaker 1>because like one of the more interesting trends that you

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<v Speaker 1>can find on this list is that it challenges and

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<v Speaker 1>tries to ban books that teach students like their legal rights,

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<v Speaker 1>um like not even counting books about like reproductive rights

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<v Speaker 1>or writes his like l g b t Q people.

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<v Speaker 1>It also it includes in this list like titles like

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<v Speaker 1>the Legal Atlas of the Unit in States, um Team

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<v Speaker 1>legal Rights, Uh, the legal Rights, Yeah, equal Rights, we

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<v Speaker 1>the students, Supreme Court cases for and about students. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is my my support for LGBTQ people

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<v Speaker 1>is worring here with my belief that children should not

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<v Speaker 1>know their rights because they're they're they're they're they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>too upty. As it is, we gotta we gotta crack look,

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<v Speaker 1>could we crack down on kids in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't bigoted, That's all I'm asking for. Nope, nope, absolutely no,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta slow them down. Kids. You must know your rights.

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<v Speaker 1>And the very important thing here is that if you

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<v Speaker 1>keep WE in your locker, the school can just search it.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't put in your locker. If you put it

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<v Speaker 1>in your car, they it's it's way harder for them

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<v Speaker 1>to search it in the principles car store guns. They're wait, okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>let's um. Yeah, I'm not sure if you can find

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<v Speaker 1>that in the legal acts less of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>But to be fair, Texas kids can't read that book

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<v Speaker 1>either now, so who knows who knows what it sets? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So to Virginia, school board members kind of called for

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<v Speaker 1>a sexual books quote unquote sexual books to be burned

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<v Speaker 1>at a meeting last year. Um, and a lot of these,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of the rhetoric around like book book

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<v Speaker 1>burnings and book bannings was specifically tied to the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the effort to harass and gain support in school boards.

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<v Speaker 1>And we saw us last year with like proud boys

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<v Speaker 1>and extremists, and it's like other like random people who

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<v Speaker 1>got their brains kind of warped by propaganda kind of

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<v Speaker 1>leading these like incendiary charges against against the school board members.

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<v Speaker 1>Some you know, the school board members got fired, like

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<v Speaker 1>threatened with arrest just for allowing books that mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>existence of being queer. It was, it was, it was

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<v Speaker 1>quite quite a problem that is now influencing this current

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<v Speaker 1>legislative cycle. UM. In almost every case, quote unquote, like

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<v Speaker 1>concerned parents have swarmed school board meetings and flooded kind

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<v Speaker 1>of mailboxes with outrage over what they call pornography UM

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<v Speaker 1>being distributed to their children. You know, people will will

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<v Speaker 1>plaster signs with you know, scenes from the gender queer

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<v Speaker 1>graphic novel that is like what they they they deem

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<v Speaker 1>as being like porno like pornographic UM when it just

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<v Speaker 1>depicts like how how like adults and young adults behave accurately,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you can find in any like fucking like

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<v Speaker 1>Batman comic. Like it's not like it's it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like not it's it's it's it's both in line with

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<v Speaker 1>other comic books and also like it's obviously dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>like issues around being queer as like that's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of it. So but yeah, just blasting this blasting

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<v Speaker 1>like queerness as innately pornographic, is you know, a big,

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of this type of propaganda push. It's it's, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty upsetic because I mean a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>adults and like quote unquote parents, you know, who knows

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<v Speaker 1>if they're actually parents. You know, it even goes and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to being like, you know, they're accusing librarians and

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<v Speaker 1>teachers of being pedophiles for having this, for the having

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<v Speaker 1>these type of materials. In Wyoming, prosecutors considered charging library

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<v Speaker 1>staff with stalking books about sexuality, um, including like literary

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<v Speaker 1>classics under like the sex said banner, like sex is

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<v Speaker 1>a funny word and this book is gay. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>I considered charging library staff, like with cribs, for for

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<v Speaker 1>stalking these books, which are like very typical sex said books.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's incredible because when I was in a Texas

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<v Speaker 1>public school, I read all of the Wheel of Time

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<v Speaker 1>books from my school library, and those are horny in

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<v Speaker 1>a much much more unhealthy way than any of the

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<v Speaker 1>books that you're talking about could possibly be described as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You get that, you get this fun thing where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they're basically running the clock back on the turf

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<v Speaker 1>arc like if you if you remember, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>church in Mexico. It was okay, So the ark that

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<v Speaker 1>they did was they were anti porn people, but then

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<v Speaker 1>they lost anti porn wars, so they became anti trafficking people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when sort of turfishing came back, they went

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<v Speaker 1>from anti trafficking back to being turfs. And it's like this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is literally they're they're doing this whole thing in

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<v Speaker 1>reverse right there. Their starting position is that their anti

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<v Speaker 1>trans and they're just going back to like the anti

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<v Speaker 1>porn stuff, but like bringing in and sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in an anti trafficking angle, and it's it's great,

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<v Speaker 1>It's extremely fun. Yeah, this is I would describe this

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<v Speaker 1>is fun. This is what I consider a fun time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I know what you consider a fun time here.

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<v Speaker 1>You do notice my my carefully place, carefully placed books

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<v Speaker 1>on on my Yes, I'm extremely aware of that. Garrison.

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison is reading books that will get them canceled by

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<v Speaker 1>like five specific people if we talk about them too

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<v Speaker 1>much on this show. That is always the fear of

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<v Speaker 1>that's always the fear of Twitter. It's being canceled by

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<v Speaker 1>five people. My favorite thing about doing a podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>an audience of millions, Garrison is telling a joke that

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<v Speaker 1>is that is precisely for you and me and making

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<v Speaker 1>that like several minutes of content. Sorry. Um, And Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>bill was introduced to the state Senate that would prohibit

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<v Speaker 1>school libraries from keeping books that focused on sexual activity,

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<v Speaker 1>sexual identity, or a gender identity. Um, you're gonna gonna

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<v Speaker 1>use the word gender identity a lot. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just refers to anything that even I mean, like it

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<v Speaker 1>refers to even mentions of being cinis gender, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you bring up the concept of cis gender, that

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<v Speaker 1>infers that there is an alternative to that. So so

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<v Speaker 1>like even any if anything even mentions being sis, it

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<v Speaker 1>means that there must be something other. So that already

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<v Speaker 1>falls into the gender identity kind of framework. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like anything that suggests that you are that you

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<v Speaker 1>that there's like, gender identity is not something you are

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<v Speaker 1>innately born with and are forever, is is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be is banned and is seen as pornographic

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing or is like grooming children or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>kind of words that they use. Um, And like all

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<v Speaker 1>of this rhetoric is much worse for l g B

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<v Speaker 1>two Q authors who are black or people of color.

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<v Speaker 1>There's books like All Boys Aren't Blue by writer George M. Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>whose whose book led one white school board member to

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<v Speaker 1>call the police on her own district's librarian for keeping

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<v Speaker 1>it in stock. It's uh the the the Central York

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<v Speaker 1>School District in Pennsylvania, and an extensive list of books

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<v Speaker 1>last year that was almost entirely written by the authors

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<v Speaker 1>of color. This is all the stuff has been happening,

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<v Speaker 1>like concurrently with the anti critical race theory, like organizing

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<v Speaker 1>in protests, which again obviously isn't about actual critical race theory,

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<v Speaker 1>just about the suggestion that maybe racism is something that

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<v Speaker 1>is not just an individual problem, but it's maybe kind

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<v Speaker 1>of built into our entire culture and system of governance,

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<v Speaker 1>UM and education. So it's it's not actual critical race theory,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that. But I think everyone listening to this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of already are already knows that Texas Governor Greg Abbott,

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<v Speaker 1>which is gonna be just who's gonna be a recurring

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<v Speaker 1>character on this episode, UM, kind of has taken this

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<v Speaker 1>whole you know, calling the police on librarians thing, uh

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<v Speaker 1>much further kind of demanding that the state's education agency

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<v Speaker 1>quote investigate any criminal activity in our public schools involving

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<v Speaker 1>the availability of pornography, a move that kind of librarians

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<v Speaker 1>in the state fear could make them targets of criminal complaints.

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<v Speaker 1>For again, the stalking books about sex said, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stalking books that not even not not not even not

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<v Speaker 1>even not even but like sex head, just just like

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<v Speaker 1>books that mentioned an alternative to the heteronormative, like you

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<v Speaker 1>are the gender that you are signed at birth, like idea,

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<v Speaker 1>like anything other than that is now could get them

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. So anything that doesn't kind of fall under

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian supremacist like worldview of sexuality and gender. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not great. There's a it's so yeah, all boys

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<v Speaker 1>aren't blue. The book written by by George M. Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>has been similar to the gender queer graphic novel is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most banned books of last year, targeted

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<v Speaker 1>for removal in at least a fifteen states. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the organizing of these efforts kind of

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<v Speaker 1>start online. There's like Telegram channels, Facebook groups, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they carry over into like school board protests, and then

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<v Speaker 1>eventually like you know, maybe some school board members will

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<v Speaker 1>will will catch onto this and start advocating for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you know, the state governor, does you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>city city councilman. Like all of this thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>is his whole cycle of organizing that's really picked up

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<v Speaker 1>alongside the anti CRT stuff many many parents have seen,

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<v Speaker 1>like Google docs or spreadsheets like the sixteen page one

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<v Speaker 1>made by Matt Krausse of of contentious titles posted on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook by local chapters of organizations such as Mom's for Liberty.

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<v Speaker 1>So people will make these giant, giant spend streets talking

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<v Speaker 1>about books that they don't like, and then they'll get

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<v Speaker 1>shared around on Facebook groups, Telegram channels from their librarians.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh say that parents will ask their schools if these

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<v Speaker 1>books are available inside libraries, and then we'll start rallying

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<v Speaker 1>and organizing to get them banned from being available in

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of public, public government setting, whether that be

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<v Speaker 1>school libraries, whether it be like public libraries, whether that

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<v Speaker 1>be like online access, all this type of stuff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's I don't know, it's Organizing against these

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<v Speaker 1>types of things is never the easiest thing, um, because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times they these people get really get

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<v Speaker 1>really dedicated onto this because it is such a it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the whole save the children a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>idea which gave Q and On such strength, and Q

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<v Speaker 1>and On is kind of taking a dip down. This

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is taking a rise up. It's kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>passing over the same type of organizing principles online. As

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<v Speaker 1>as mentioned before, the governor of South Carolina asked the

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<v Speaker 1>state's Superintendent of Education but also it's law enforcement division,

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate the presence of quote obscene in pornographic materials

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<v Speaker 1>from its public schools um you know, citing the Gender

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<v Speaker 1>and Queer graphic novel as an example that you've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen mayors in difference in different cities withhold funding

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<v Speaker 1>from county libraries saying that he will not release money

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<v Speaker 1>to these candy library systems until books with lgbt Q

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<v Speaker 1>themes are removed. It's it's pretty grim, uh, And so

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<v Speaker 1>far efforts to bring criminal charges against librarians and educators

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<v Speaker 1>have largely faltered, as as law enforcement officials in like

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<v Speaker 1>Florida and Wyoming and other sites for this type of

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<v Speaker 1>thing has been attempted. Have you know, found really no

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<v Speaker 1>basis for criminal investigations. But still it's like the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing for like, even even if this process gets started,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about building like fear that it could happen to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about you know, this fear that someone's always watching

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<v Speaker 1>and someone's always wanting to report you. Um, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that they happened with Texas and abortion. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to have like the bound hundred idea of

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<v Speaker 1>be like parents are trying to find examples of this

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<v Speaker 1>to report it. So then so it's like this like

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<v Speaker 1>proactive kind of surveillance of anything that doesn't fall into

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian supremacist idea of gender and sexuality. It's you know, now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course that's like a specific interpretation of Christianity. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not not saying all Christianities like that, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>the one of it's them in the South, it's it

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<v Speaker 1>is like one of the bigger strains of that type

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<v Speaker 1>of of that type of kind of religious and politic synthesis.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's see. So courts have generally taken the position

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<v Speaker 1>that libraries should not remove these books from circulation um,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes due to pressure via like loss of funding

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<v Speaker 1>or depending on how like the how much how much

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<v Speaker 1>like who is in charge of each state's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>education system? A lot of a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these books have been banned and have have been

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<v Speaker 1>pulled from many school libraries and many public libraries. Even

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<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't like go all the way to being

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, court mandated all of it, sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need doesn't even need to get that far. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because like even if it doesn't get to the court,

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<v Speaker 1>librarians kind of librarians have said that just the threat

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<v Speaker 1>of having to defend against charges and having to defend

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<v Speaker 1>against like accusations of pedophilia and grooming and all this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of nonsense is enough to get many educators to

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<v Speaker 1>censor themselves by just not talking these books to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid that whole kind of debacle, because even just

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<v Speaker 1>the public spectacle of an accusation can be enough to

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<v Speaker 1>like ruin someone's life inside like a small like in

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<v Speaker 1>like a small community. Right, it's it's it's is if

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<v Speaker 1>you know parents, if you know kids, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>like part of your social group, it's part of like

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you're like situated in your community. If this type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing starts up, it can really be devastating to

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<v Speaker 1>someone's personal life. And of obviously this is very ironic

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<v Speaker 1>because all these same people who are trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>get these books banned also crying and scream about like

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<v Speaker 1>censorship and cancel culture um, while literally advocating the burning

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<v Speaker 1>of comic books um, and even like fucking like advocating

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<v Speaker 1>the burning of know your Rights books. So it's it's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they will cry and scream about canceler culture um, but

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<v Speaker 1>they will do all of this stuff as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not right. There is no ideological consistency. They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're not they're not trying to that's not

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's not part of the point. It's because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even hypocrisy in their own eyes, because all of

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<v Speaker 1>this is for the greater good. It's it's about protecting

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<v Speaker 1>the innocence of children. Right. If you'll notice that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these bills and efforts try to not explicitly

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<v Speaker 1>attack books for being gay or queer. Instead, they will

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<v Speaker 1>label them as pornographic or obscene um. Obviously, many books

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<v Speaker 1>that conservatives will defend have just as graphic depictions of

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<v Speaker 1>intimacy or autonic like or um or anatomy um, but

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<v Speaker 1>usually heterosexual in nature, and alongside other kind of values

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<v Speaker 1>that the right wants to push. Um. You know, even

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<v Speaker 1>like the fucking Bible is more graphic than the gender

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<v Speaker 1>queer and graphic novel um. But when conservatives say pornography,

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<v Speaker 1>what they just mean that is any display of queerness, right,

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<v Speaker 1>anything outside the mold of the fundamentalist Christian supremacist worldview

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<v Speaker 1>that they're fighting for. Just like when they say banned

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<v Speaker 1>critical race theory, they don't they don't actually mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>What they mean is ban any discussion on racism that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of disrupts white comfort. It's it's it's it's they

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<v Speaker 1>they have their own framework to view this and they

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<v Speaker 1>can justify it within their own framework, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's It should not surprise anyone that many of these

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<v Speaker 1>queer book bannings are being organized alongside bands on books

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on race and racism. UM. Matt Cross's sixteen page

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<v Speaker 1>spreadsheet was was was made to accompany House Bill three

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<v Speaker 1>nine seven nine, the so called anti CRT bill, that

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<v Speaker 1>band's teaching of any materials that could mean quote an

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<v Speaker 1>individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other psychological

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<v Speaker 1>distress on account of the individual's race or sex. So

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<v Speaker 1>just banning teaching of things that could make a medical

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<v Speaker 1>person kind of uncomfortable, which is it seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>great way to view education. Uh yeah, let's just skip

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<v Speaker 1>over the parts that are uncomfortable and that I'll make

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<v Speaker 1>a great society. Wow. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna quote from a great article by Samantha Rydell in

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<v Speaker 1>them dot Com quote small. Wonder then that much of

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<v Speaker 1>the current of fervor can be traced back to the

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<v Speaker 1>conservative group No Left Turn, founded in to ban books

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<v Speaker 1>about racial inequality from classrooms by Elena fish Being. An

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<v Speaker 1>a line of fish Being believes that Antifa children quote

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<v Speaker 1>quote quote Antiva children are going to assault her kids

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<v Speaker 1>for being white. Um. The organization No Left Turn rocketed

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<v Speaker 1>to prominence in the anti education right wing after fish

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<v Speaker 1>Being was interviewed by Tucker Carlson on Fox News. UM

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<v Speaker 1>a tie, which similarly lifted like minded boat such as

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<v Speaker 1>Moms for Liberty. No Left Turns website directs parents to

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<v Speaker 1>a laundry list of books that they claim are used

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<v Speaker 1>to quote indoctrinate kids into a dangerous ideology. Including a

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<v Speaker 1>robust section on quote comprehensive sexual education. UM here that

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<v Speaker 1>pornography lie is laid bare with over forty books whose

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<v Speaker 1>only kind of through line is that they deal with

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<v Speaker 1>lgbt Q themes. The picture book I Am Jazz, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Bornstein's My Gender Workbook, and the y A novel

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<v Speaker 1>Two Boys Kissing also included, as Margaret Atwood's The Hand

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<v Speaker 1>The Handmaiden's Tale. UH. No Left Turn discriminately targets all

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<v Speaker 1>these titles because they simply feature queer people having lives or,

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of like Margaret Atwood, having their lives

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<v Speaker 1>be ended. So after all, ideas, ideas like that might

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<v Speaker 1>influence kids to think that they could be different right

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<v Speaker 1>any and for conservative parents, there's no greater horror than

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of not being able to control their children

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<v Speaker 1>or the idea that their kids might not straight. It

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<v Speaker 1>should come as no surprise that the grassroots campaigns quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote grassroots campaigns like No Left Turn are in reality

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<v Speaker 1>links to influential conservative donors and packs like the Cato

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<v Speaker 1>Institute and the former Federative Society Pardon Cato. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>Cato It's named after Kato Kalin, the guy who lived

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<v Speaker 1>behind o Ja's house. Is that true? No, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have just let that. I should have just

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<v Speaker 1>here's gonna slightly continently expand by like red string like

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<v Speaker 1>my red string board its head by head like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah. Cato Institute named after Kato Kalin, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who o j Surper bro buddy. But it should come

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<v Speaker 1>as no surprise that the grass roots quote unquote grassroots

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<v Speaker 1>campaigns like No Left Turn and Reality link to influential

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<v Speaker 1>conservative donors and packs like the Cato Institute and former

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<v Speaker 1>Federalist Society Vice president Leonard Leo. But then again, lies

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<v Speaker 1>don't matter to the reactionary base that Republicans are hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to rally to the front of this culture war. What

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<v Speaker 1>matters to them is controlling the information that children have

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<v Speaker 1>access to to obsensively keep them safe and innocent, but

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<v Speaker 1>in truth, because they think that if kids don't know

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<v Speaker 1>but lgbt Q identities, they won't form one. It's conversion

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<v Speaker 1>therapy by ignorance end quote. But that that's an idea

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to kind of come back through, come back

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<v Speaker 1>to a few times throughout the course of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the idea of conversion therapy by ignorance, which really

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<v Speaker 1>does kind of I think have introduced a really good

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<v Speaker 1>like mental framework to understand why these things are happening,

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<v Speaker 1>because they think if they can keep kids from learning

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<v Speaker 1>about these things, then they won't become gay or trance.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it's like trying to isolate them so that

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<v Speaker 1>so that their reality tunnel is so small so that

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<v Speaker 1>they won't hopefully will never like break out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Now, obviously, if kids feel if kids start having

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<v Speaker 1>feel things that break that piannel, if they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that there's an alternative to that, that really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>leads to things like depression and suicide, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>it's so high among among queer kids in that region

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like there's it's like they're fundamentally breaking realities.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's that's hard to cope with. We're I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna it's gonna do. What's gonna do? Kind of one

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<v Speaker 1>more segment quickly before before we haven't had break it

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<v Speaker 1>is uh. It's it's interesting we have like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the parents that have been rallying for this, UH

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<v Speaker 1>have some interesting track records themselves. If we can even

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go back to um UH to the Family

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<v Speaker 1>Research Council, with Josh Dougger having the save the children

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<v Speaker 1>idea well you know himself being a child bleicster or

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<v Speaker 1>help bill like yeah so um. In a secondingly ironic case,

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<v Speaker 1>a Missouri parents named Ryan Utterback was charged in December

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<v Speaker 1>with multiple accounts of child molestation and giving and distributing

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<v Speaker 1>pornogu fee to miners, including a child as young as four. Um.

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Upon his arrest, utter Back was heavily involved in the

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>book banning advocacy, including protests against the books All Boys

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Aren't Blue and uh and other sex a books. Um.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>He he said he gave a quote before he got

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<v Speaker 1>arrested and when he was still doing like the book

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<v Speaker 1>banning advocacy quote, only I have the intimate understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>what isn't isn't appropriate for my children, uh, which is

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<v Speaker 1>quite quite the sentence to say on someone who is

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<v Speaker 1>now arrested for a child molestation. So yeah, that's not yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's uh that sucks. But yeah, so like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that erasing erasing documentation of queer lives and

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<v Speaker 1>making it so that so that people to their kids

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<v Speaker 1>only are exposed to a very kind of isolated worldview

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>will make it easier to control um and if they

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>don't hear about something, maybe they'll just you know, live

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>their life as a regular straight child. And that's that's

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>their hope. Now obviously that doesn't that doesn't really happen

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>in practice, but that's kind of what they're working towards,

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and that that's why they save the children thing is

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<v Speaker 1>so important to them, because they really do think that

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>they can save the kid children, like they do think

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that they can keep keep them from this stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's one other reason that they're doing that

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<v Speaker 1>specifically they focus on books too, specifically the pornographic attack,

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>which is that these kind of like incredible hard right

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>evangelicals are not the entire Republican base, and so that

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>there are people who they have to convin like they

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<v Speaker 1>have to fully radicalize into into the extermination of where people,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the exermination to trans people and the like. The

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<v Speaker 1>easiest way to do that is just by constantly associating

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<v Speaker 1>anything queer with pedophilia and with like specific tifically pedophilia

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and specifically grooming. And you know, these kind of campaigns

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<v Speaker 1>like they have dual effect. They have the effect on

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<v Speaker 1>the one hand of the actual material harm to children,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're you know, like preventing them from having any

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<v Speaker 1>access to anything that shows them that they could be queer.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>And then simultaneously it has this effect of creating this

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<v Speaker 1>association inside of conservatives that allows you to push for

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<v Speaker 1>even more genocidal stuff that without this they might not

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>have been able to swallow. Yeah. Well, speaking of genocidal actions,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that one of our sponsors have contributed to

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>at least one attempt to genocide. I mean we we

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:34.320
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0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>dictator Suharto, So you know, big, big thank you to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Pancasila forever. And yeah, here's the matter. Ah, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>West Popua. Hey, Hey, hey, hey, Sue hard too and

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<v Speaker 1>Sukarno different. Yes, yes, yeah, I am very clear on this,

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's why you should not google what Zukarno did

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>in in Papua because dear God. But we will put

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>his patreon in the description. We will be backing his patreon.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Look at the show notes for that. Um hi, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna we're gonna segue into other types of legislation now,

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<v Speaker 1>but still kind of focusing on the whole parents rights

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to decide what scientific and medical knowledge children can have

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<v Speaker 1>access to UM in terms of like the conversion therapy

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>by ignorance category. So we're gonna talk about they don't

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<v Speaker 1>Say Gay bill. So Florida's House and Senate just passed

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<v Speaker 1>the so called Don't Say Gay Bill that bands mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>of anything other than the strict heteronormativity and the you

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<v Speaker 1>are the gender assigned that birth kind of idea UM.

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<v Speaker 1>For at least most of elementary school, it's banned and

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<v Speaker 1>possibly farther reaching than that UM, with teachers also opening

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<v Speaker 1>themselves up lawsuits if they fail to comply. It's formally

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Parental Rates in Education Bill, and the

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<v Speaker 1>text of the legislation states that quote classroom instruction by

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<v Speaker 1>school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender

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<v Speaker 1>identity may not occur in kindergarten through third grade, or

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<v Speaker 1>in any manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate for students in accordance with state standards. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is it is very intentionally vague for how far reaching

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<v Speaker 1>this can be. For how much they will determine what

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<v Speaker 1>and what isn't appropriate for grades for an up who knows. Uh. Yeah,

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's not just it's not just limited to early grades.

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Classroom instruction on sexual orientation and general identity could be

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<v Speaker 1>prohibited or at least taken to court at all grade levels, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what the parents find unacceptable. Right, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's based on what the parents want to

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<v Speaker 1>want to happen to to to the kids that are

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<v Speaker 1>under their care. So it's it's specifically following kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the framework that yeah, you can you can report something

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't like it. So it's it's it's very

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<v Speaker 1>much pandering to like a reactionary conservative all this stuff

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that conservatives said was a nightmare about, like the Stazi

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>in East Germany and the KGB. They're like, but what

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>if we just decentralized that, you know, and and let

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who's a bigot report and ruin the lives of

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<v Speaker 1>people around them for a variety of bullshit reasons. It's good. Yeah,

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 1>it's ah. And I mean, just like other states, like

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas, the enforcement of it is not initially done

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<v Speaker 1>by the government but is open to a concern to

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<v Speaker 1>fanatical public, saying that parents may bring action against the

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<v Speaker 1>school district to obtain a declaratory judgment UM, and a

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<v Speaker 1>court may award damages an attorney's fees if it finds

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the school violated the measure. So there's like financial incentives

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>for parents for this UM. The bill will come into

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<v Speaker 1>effect on the first of July, with all school districts

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>UM required to update their policies by at least June.

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<v Speaker 1>There was there was also a proposed amendment that would

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<v Speaker 1>have required schools and educators to report if they knew

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<v Speaker 1>or suspected a child was lgbt Q to their parents

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<v Speaker 1>within six weeks of learning. That UM, so within six

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of learning, if they're not sis or straight, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be reported to the parents. UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>that that part was withdrawn before the bill reached the House.

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of like this is the type of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that well, this is that like the legislators are

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of. When it became increasingly apparent that the bill

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be passed no matter what, UH, a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>Chevin Jones, the first openly gay Florida state senator, tried

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<v Speaker 1>to amend the bill to narrow the language to say

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<v Speaker 1>that in classroom instruction should not be intended to change

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.959
<v Speaker 1>students sexual orientation or gender identity, and specifically not marginalized

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<v Speaker 1>queer people, and instead just limit the bill to itach

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate sex said, and that amendment obviously failed, with Dennis Backley,

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<v Speaker 1>the bill's main sponsor, saying that it would significantly gut

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the bill's intent. So it's it's it's it's specifically to

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<v Speaker 1>suppress knowledge of being queer. That is, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>whole that's the whole point of the bill. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the the governor claims that the bill addresses

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<v Speaker 1>quote sexual stuff and quote telling kids that they may

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pick genders and all that, uh, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that that has nothing to do like this is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with sex at all, like literally nothing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like but nothing, it's but they still do it, like

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<v Speaker 1>the pornographic obscene kind of category because like it's right,

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing like if you show gay people kissing,

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that is sexual. If you show story people kissing, that

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't right. It's it's being queer as innately more obscene.

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>It is it is, it is it is so much

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<v Speaker 1>more of an issue. Rana Santas governor also said, like

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<v Speaker 1>how many parents want their kindergarteners to have transjagenderism or

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>something injected into their school discussion? Um, but that's so

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>that type of stuff he says that like press conferences

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So yeah, it is. It is very clear

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that the bill is targeted specifically towards gay people, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and being trans or being queer, being non sis, non straight,

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>that whole that that that whole category. Um. The governor's

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>press secretary called it the anti grooming bill. Um. You know,

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.760
<v Speaker 1>reviving the type of like you know, whether that LGBT

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>attacks have had for years, suggesting that you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>gay means that you are a pedophile or being trans

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>means that you're a pedophile. It ties in with this

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<v Speaker 1>thing you'll see in like the far right and the

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>libertarian right, where people who have like kill your local

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>pedophile bumper stickers and stuff because you can't argue with like, yeah,

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 1>pedophiles are are the worst. That's horrible, But you don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually mean people who molest children. You mean people who

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<v Speaker 1>live in a way that you consider obscene, which are

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<v Speaker 1>equating with pedophilias that you can justify murdering those people

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>eventually yep, uh yeah, and when and when when confronted

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>with the the actual pedophiles, they literally don't do ship well.

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>They are off Like Andy No, for a great example,

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>has regularly hung out around a specific I think a

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<v Speaker 1>most lee is his name pedophile. The longest serving Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Speaker of the House was a pedophile and passive scale

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>dinn it Dennis Haster d hast that's what that? Um,

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what that? What's that German band? This would have

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>been a decent joke if I remember their name right

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>away Romstein. Yeah, well I sucked it up, okay, so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>please please continue. So yeah, but like they don't say

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<v Speaker 1>gay bill tries even less than some of the like

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>school book bands to hide behind the defense of prohibiting pornography.

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it just says the quiet part out loud, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that this bill is grounded in the belief the

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>loud part out loud. Yeah, yeah, I like the bills

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>just grounded in the belief that LGBTQ people simply by

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.479
<v Speaker 1>exist thing are a threat to like children and must

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>be completely arrased. Like that's that's the whole that's the whole. Idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Following several hours of debate ahead of the vote in

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the Senate, a bill sponsor Atlanta Garcia claimed that quote,

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<v Speaker 1>gay is not a permanent thing, and l g b

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<v Speaker 1>t Q is not a permanent thing. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the type of like commercial therapy by ignorance thing. A

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of these people have advocated for conversion therapy to

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<v Speaker 1>be legalized in the past or re legalized in the past.

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they just they just don't want gay people

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to be around because they find the nikki. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not just Florida though, right the fears

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<v Speaker 1>with like hyper focusing on you know, just justin, justin,

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>don't say gay bill in Florida kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it ignores a lot of the other stuff that's happening

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>across the entire country if you do when you're just

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>focusing on state because they are like fifteen similar bills

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<v Speaker 1>moving through state legislators that are strict how textbooks and

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 1>curriculums are allowed to teach lgbt Q topics and and

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 1>like who can be hired as teachers and what are

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>what are like what's allowed to be said when it

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>comes to genderal identity and sexual orientation. All like stuff

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>is happening all across the country. UM. A house bill

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee would ban textbook and instructural materials that promote

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>normalized support or address lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender lifestyles

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote um in in in k three twelve schools.

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<v Speaker 1>So also also high school um in in UH. In Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bill that seeks to amend the state's obsidity

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>laws to make using classroom materials depicting homosexuality a class

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>B misdemeanor. UH Legislators in Indiana are working to bar

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<v Speaker 1>educators from discussing any content about sexual orientation, quote, transgenderism,

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 1>or general identity without permission from parents. In Oklahoma, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a senate bill that would ban public schools from employing

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who quote promotes positions in the classroom or any

0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 1>or any function of the public school that is the

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>opposition to the closely held religious beliefs of students. So

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that's that's interesting framing there. Yeah, and again we need

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>to be very clear about this when like, when these

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>people say deeply have religious beliefs, they mean fundamentalist Christianity.

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>They're there, these people are very specifically attempting to turn

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the state into a Christian at those state, and this

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>is the ship that they used to do it. And

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it's it's it's grim. We can look at

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>like a recent report from the Trevor Project UM which

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>is an lgbt Q suicide prevention and crisis internation group,

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and they did a recent report finding that l g

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>B t Q youth who learn about l g b

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>t Q people or l g b t Q issues

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>in the school have a tecent lower odds of reporting

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a suicide attempt in the past year. So just that,

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 1>like the knowledge that there is an alternative is like

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>is life changing for people, right, the ability to to

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>read eyes that there are other reality tunnels is can

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>save people's lives, like it is Yeah, I mean I

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.240
<v Speaker 1>like I I watched this happen like my my public school,

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I was in a public school, but I was

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>in public school in a really conservative area. The only

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 1>time anyone even mentioned being gay was screaming about gay marriage.

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>And like we fucking saw some ship, Like a lot

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of extremely bad things happened to the queer kids. They're

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>including me, like it yeah, like this this This stuff

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>kills people. It stilf hurts people. It is I think

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that's that people in like more blue states don't quite understand,

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>is how how absolute this type of thing is, like

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>living in these communities, How how narrow your version of

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>reality is, Like how how everything you're exposed to is

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 1>so hyper focused that even knowledge of an alternative can

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>be so mind blowing that it really is important to

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>have at least this to be knowledgeable, because yeah, a

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.919
<v Speaker 1>lot of people who you know, a lot of people

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>may not have access to the Internet in the same way.

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>It's like a lot of these groups, especially like especially

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Christian groups specifically have like like you know, services that

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you can buy to like suppress websites on your WiFi.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Writers is that only you're only available to access like

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>certain websites like like like, it is a whole effort

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>to restrict the reality that kids are exposed to two

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of railroad them into this hyper specific, kind of

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>heteroonormative idea of existence. So yeah, any type of thing

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that breaks these kids out of out of these reality

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>tunnels can can be life changing, which is why they're

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to ban all these books of libraries because yeah,

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>even if you even if you block websites, even if

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 1>you were strict internet access, even if you were strict

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 1>what can be taught in schools? You know, there's the

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>fear of what if a kid goes to a library

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and finds a book about being gay? Then oh wow,

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that could that would you know, undo all of the

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>effort that undo the thousands of dollars we spend on

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>blocking internet access to two websites. So like, that's why

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about like libraries and stuff is because yeah,

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>if they find out about this stuff anywhere, then they

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in trouble. Like that's that's it's the whole

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>point of like isolating people, isolating what they view as possible. So, yeah,

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna talking about some Uh, we're gonna we're

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna talk money, money, money, money. Uh. The

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>other thing that they don't say. Gay Bill has highlighted

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>is the extent to which big businesses and corporate America

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>is financially funding many of these recent efforts to hack

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>away queer rights. Uh. This has kind of been like

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a back and forth thing, though, especially if you look

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>back in the past few years under the Trump era.

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's take the North Carolina Bathroom Bill for example, arguably

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the opening act for the current onslaught of socially conservative

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>legislation targeting and trans people. Remember this was like right

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 1>after the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage. So this

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 1>is when the needle starts to shift towards trans people.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>This is the bill that said that you have to

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>use the bathroom assigned at matching the gender you were

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>assigned at burg on your certificate. All types of stuff, um,

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>putting again unspoken bigotry, us oaken stuff. You know, you

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>could be you know, arrested or harassed for doing this previously.

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's like putting this type of idea into concrete law. Right,

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 1>this is once once progress starts, there's this like back

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>pedaling so that they you know, they put they put that,

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they put what was once like unspoken bigotry and just

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>like obvious bigotry into actual written law. Um, it's like

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>make making it concrete. So during the bathroom bill kind

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of whole thing in North Carolina, um, we saw corporations

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to stay conscious of culture shifts, attempting to stay

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.959
<v Speaker 1>on the sympathetic side of the rising generations. Who would

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, become their future employees and customers, trying to

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>appeal to them and keeping that in mind. So in

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the aftermath of the passage of the bathroom Bill, multiple

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:51.720
<v Speaker 1>companies like PayPal, Adidas, Doutche, Bank Um all rescinded plans

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to invest in the state wild to Like, I mean,

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>if there's if there's evil going on, Deutsche Bank is

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>providing money to make it. Yeah, it's it's it's it's stunning,

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Like how bad you have to be that Deutsche Bank

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>is Like no, I like like every every person who's

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>like Russia yet like like Deutsa Bank like before, like

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I knew someone who worked there who two of his

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>coworkers like started like doing audits of their accounts and

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.399
<v Speaker 1>both of them wound up dead in their hotel rooms.

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Non extradition countries. Yeah that scans yeah, like even okay,

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Deutsche Bank initially said they weren't gonna pull

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>out of Russia, but like two days ago, as we

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>record this started pulling out. But they pulled out in

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:42.479
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. They pulled North Carolina. Jesus Christ, big, big, big.

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>You know. There's a degree to which is probably just

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like that raytheon Energy where it's like Raytheon, We're great

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>with trans people. Exact, you're making missiles, then you're fine. Exactly. Yeah,

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean big musical artists like Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>and a former former R E M member Ringo star

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:06.240
<v Speaker 1>kesled concerts there. Did you call Ringo star a member

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of R E M. Garrison the the n C double

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>A announced it was that was championship durn Okay, okay, okay.

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>If you'd lived through the nineties, you would never make

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>fun of Michael Stipe again. At the National Basketball Association

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>pulled its All Star game from Charlotte. Almost seventy companies,

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Joy did a lawsuit against the bill. UM and you know,

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 1>money talks. The pressure worked. The state repealed the law

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in twenty's seventeen UH the same year I brought a

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>coalition of business leaders in Texas blocked a similar bill

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>pushed by these Tonchley conservative then Republican Lieutenant Governor Dan

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Patrick UM And we've seen the same type of thing

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>happened in Georgia the past few years, UM with with

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>actions like Corporate Boycott's many large employeers pushing back on

0:45:55.680 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the succession of socially conservative bills, including like racist voting restrictions,

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>six week abortion bands, and quote religious freedom bills that

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 1>would give businesses protection to refuse customers or higher employees

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that are queer. UM. Prominent in that resistance was a Disney,

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>which cast a long shadow over Georgia's economy via its

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>filming of Marvel movies inside Atlanta. Yeah so yeah. Across

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>many states, big corporate brands were quick to condemn obviously

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>bigoted political moves. UM. Prominent Tennessee employeers like Nissan, del Amazon,

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and Vandorbilt University sent a since sent a letter last

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 1>year opposing a suite of bills targeting LGBTQ rights, and

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a similarly, a group of Texas businesses business leaders declared

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 1>opposition to Governor Greg Abbotts recent directive to investigate parents

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:53.879
<v Speaker 1>and others who provide transition treatment for for transgender youth.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>But after Trump got out of office, and particularly during

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>this recent round of a tax on queer rights, companies

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>have not really been backing up their words with any

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 1>equivalent actions. After Tennessee last year past all the bills

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that targeted lgbt Q rights, including measures restricting classroom discussion,

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 1>um barring trans girls from any high school sports and

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:19.879
<v Speaker 1>it's and its own version of like the bathroom bill,

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>it faced nothing like the North Carolina boycotts. There was,

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>there was, There was just nothing because this is when

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Biden was president. Now, um so, whether it be the

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 1>anti c r T stuff, voting restrictions, or stepping away

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>lgbt Q rights the past year under Joe Biden, companies

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>are not really bothered to push back on these socially

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 1>conservative bills were taking many states. It's it's they don't

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 1>it's it's easier to push back. But it's easier to

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>push back on something when you know when you have

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 1>a big bad in office. I guess, uh well, and

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I think also it's it's the companies can see which

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>way the wind is blowing, right, Yeah, Like it's a

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 1>sa standing with grifters when you when you when you

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.760
<v Speaker 1>watch people like when you watch stream races, like suddenly

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 1>start to flip the political positions. When you when you

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>watch the love the live streamers in particularly do this.

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>When you watch them starting to flip that that's how

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you can tell which way the wind is blowing. And

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 1>this is really fucking scary because you know the way

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>the wind is blowing right now that that these corporations

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>are are are you know, drifting towards is just you know,

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>refusing to oppose is just this exterminationism. Yeah, I mean

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>so thankfully Disney got you know, shouted to like we're

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about so creators of the movie Song

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of the South. UM. Was notable that in their refusal

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to criticize the bill as it moved through the legislator

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 1>under um the kind of recent stuff inside Florida specifically so,

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>but this was part of an overall pattern, like the

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>corporate response was was much more muted to they go

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to they don't say gay bill um in Florida compared

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 1>to other stuff across across the country even UM and

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:03.280
<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't really surprise any uh many of the Republican

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>backers of the bill in Florida are actually bankrolled by

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the varou same businesses that have done performative virtue signally

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 1>boycott's and protests under the TROUMP era. UH. Disney and

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Disney World in Orlando is one of the state's biggest

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 1>employers and an enormous economic force inside Florida. And when

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>disney silence was met with pushback, Bob Chapeck, the CEO,

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>try to kind of do damage control at first, like

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>internally within the company and then for outside press. UM

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>last Monday, I think, which was the seventh UM in

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:44.720
<v Speaker 1>a in a In a memo to Disney staff, Chapec

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 1>argued that the company can do more to promote tolerance

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 1>quote through the inspiring content we produce and the welcoming

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:57.399
<v Speaker 1>culture we create and the diverse community of organizations we support. UM,

0:49:57.440 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 1>which is funny if you know anything about the history

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of Disney, also saying that the messages in their movies

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>are more powerful than any law being effort, which is

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, which is also you know, great coming from

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the company most famous for queer coding almost all of

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:23.839
<v Speaker 1>their filings. Uh so sure, sure, bob Um. Two days later, UM,

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>at a shareholder meeting, was a little more open and

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:31.320
<v Speaker 1>told told shareholders that the company had privately opposed to

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the bill. UM, and we'll trying to explain why the

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>silence in the recent legislative efforts to attack lgbt P

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ people. He said that we chose not to take

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>a public position on the bill because we felt like

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>we could be more effective working behind the scenes. Engaging

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 1>directly with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. But

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it uh, it later came out that Speck had only

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 1>reached out to Florida Governor Randa Centers just that morning

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 1>after the bill had already had already passed. Yeah, we

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 1>we need that cat from Saga that just yells lies. Yes,

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>lying cats my favorite. UM definitely appreciate lying cat lying. Uh. Yeah.

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 1>So of course none of this satisfied anybody, UM, and

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 1>there's been increasing pushback from both within the Disney Company

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and outside UM. Pixar sent a letter to JPEC criticizing

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 1>his wishy washy stance on the on the on the

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>don't say gay bill, and even goes on even goes

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 1>on to goes on to criticize the corporation for capitalizing

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>on pride through like a through rainbow mickey merchandizing and stuff, uh, saying, quote,

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>it feels terrible to be part of a company that

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:42.240
<v Speaker 1>makes money from pride merch when it when it chooses

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to step back in times of our greatest need and

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>when our rights are at risk, says the Pixar letter.

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, after after aw if you did after the

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>shareholder meeting, Jpeck said third times the charm and tried

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>again to save face, announcing the company would immediately be

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and supporting efforts to combat similar legislation in other states,

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and would pause all political donations in the state pending

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>a review of the company's political giving. UM conceding that

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the company failed to be a stronger ally in the

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 1>fight for equal rights, and all that is well and

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:18.799
<v Speaker 1>good if you ignore the fact that in the past

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>two years alone, Disney has given three thousand dollars to

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.520
<v Speaker 1>politicians in Florida who voted for the Don't Say Gay Bill.

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 1>UM Disney Entities donated at least four thousand dollars in

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the re election campaigns for the bill's chief sponsors, state

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Representative Joe Harding and state Sponsor Dennis Baxley. UM and

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Disney Entities also donated fifty dollars to political action committee

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>tied to the governor, Rhonda Santa's one so just last year.

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:52.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's a that's a lot of money. Yeah,

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.839
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think it's worth like noting for

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:59.400
<v Speaker 1>people who like are somewhat younger, which is that like

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole thing where corporations pretend that they like

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>queer people now and this is the thing that has

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 1>existed for maybe a decade, and the other several hundred

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 1>years of capitalism are them like ruthless lee crushing queer

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>people of all kinds. So yeah, this is this is

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>their normal state. Queer capitalism is like not a thing.

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a It's a thing that exists solely to sell

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you sweatshirts. It's not a thing. Get that rainbow Mickey merchandise. Yeah,

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 1>they want they are actively okay with funding people who

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>want to kill you. So so as as I as

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.919
<v Speaker 1>I was writing this, UM last week tonight the show

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 1>with Jonathan Oliver came out with a small piece that

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 1>was covering similar ground, uh to to my writing. That

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:48.320
<v Speaker 1>also included some nice, nice, nice background on Disney sponsored

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>politician and lead sponsor. If they don't say gay bill

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that Dennis Baxley. Um, so yeah, apparently Baxley has said

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that quote abortion is causing Europeans to be replaced by

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 1>immigrant Disney's going back from its Nazi roots. Nice little

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 1>white replacement lie. Um. He worked on bills to repeal

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 1>protections for queer workers and worked to relegalize gay conversion therapy.

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.799
<v Speaker 1>UM and at some kind of fundraising event he said

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:20.359
<v Speaker 1>that quote. I know some districts where there's a big

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 1>infestation of homosexuals that were pushing their agenda under the

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>screen and then trying to get more people hired like

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 1>them instead up gay adoptions and all this stuff. It's

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a continual fight for the values that we hold dear boy,

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 1>brought to you, brought to you by Disney and yeah,

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 1>take ticket infestation. Yeah, it's a yeah, take take take

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>none of the use of the infestation there. Um, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ties into my whole, my whole like a viewing,

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:54.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, queerness as a contagion kind of idea well,

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 1>which I mean viewing the enemy is a contagion is

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>also older than just viewing queer people as a contagion,

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>because it's exactly how Hitler talked about the Jews, and

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, it goes we can look at like some

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>of the things the Turks would say about Armenians. It's

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:10.359
<v Speaker 1>this idea of you know, you there's no there's no

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>middle ground with a virus, and if you turn people

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:16.279
<v Speaker 1>into a virus, then you don't have to consider a

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:20.359
<v Speaker 1>middle ground. Um. So before we go and break I'm

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna do one more. I'm gonna do A

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<v Speaker 1>quote from an article in The Atlantic UM titled want

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to understand the Red State onslaught Look at Florida. Um,

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a it's a deccent article kind of

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<v Speaker 1>going through the financial stuff that Disney has kind of backed. Um.

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:40.280
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, quote. Why have so many companies backed away

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:45.240
<v Speaker 1>from these fights? The fights against the legislation? Some corporate

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 1>lobbyists I spoke with said that one reason is that

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 1>they believe the public opposition is counterproductive because more Republican

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>elected officials in the Donald Trump era find it politically

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 1>valuable to be seen as fighting big companies. Businesses also

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 1>frequently complained that the widening gulf between the parties leaves

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 1>them in a lose lose position of alienating an important

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>block of potential customers wherever they come down on policy debates.

0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 1>UM activists will point out that business is often try

0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 1>to have both ways by rhetorically identifying with causes such

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>as inclusion and diversity without taking any tangible steps to

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>defend them. Another factor probably looms larger than any of

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:30.239
<v Speaker 1>these considerations, however much they want to publicly align with

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the values of younger customers and consumers and workers. Big

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 1>companies want to only want to go only so far

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 1>and fighting these proposals because they still mostly prefer Republicans

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and control of state governments to deliver the low tax

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:48.240
<v Speaker 1>like regulation policies that they favor. State Republicans have, in turn,

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 1>have grown more overt about threatening those beliefs when business

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 1>leaders raise objections to the cultural war components of their agenda.

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>When American Airlines criticize the restrictive voting bill in Texas

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 1>past last year, Lieutenant Governor Patrick openly threatened to kill

0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>other legislation the company had cared about. So yeah, like, obviously,

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:11.919
<v Speaker 1>companies want Republicans to be in charge because it will

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>make it easier to run their big giant corporate businesses

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that basically are as powerful a lot of a lot

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.919
<v Speaker 1>of other like government entities. Uh so, yeah, they're gonna

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 1>spend supporting Rhonda Santis. They're gonna spend dollars in the

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 1>past the past two years supporting all these Republican candidates

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>that voted for for they don't say, gay bill, because

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that makes them more profit in the long run. And

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, if you're if you're running a business.

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:44.720
<v Speaker 1>That's what they want. So yep, that is uh, I'm

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're We're gonna take another ad break and then

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:50.360
<v Speaker 1>we will we will come back to talk about Texas

0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and and and bathroom bills and healthcare and all of

0:57:54.080 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the other kind of stuff that's happened in recent weeks. Yeah, hello,

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 1>we are back. Sorry, I was, I was taking some

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>time to listen to my favorite Ringo Star RM album

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 1>in the break in between reading books by It's a

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 1>really good combo of the media. How how dare you

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>not the not properly appreciating Michael Stipe, the voice of

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>several generations, Michael Stiper Michael Stipe, Yeah, so he was.

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I I really like the Black Keys.

0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:43.640
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, um, I'm gonna make more bad music jokes

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 1>or I could continue my script. Yeah, please continue. We

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have to talk about all of the wonderful contributions

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:53.960
<v Speaker 1>your generation is made to music like uh like you

0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 1>two with hit Like You two, Fame Zoomer Bands, you

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:03.520
<v Speaker 1>two with hit Man. George Harrison, m Yep, you gonna

0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>make a lot of people happy, Garrison, a lot of

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>people real happy. At least everyone states have introduced bills

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>that would ban trans athletes from competing in sports that

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>correspond to their gender identities UM. Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee have

0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:19.920
<v Speaker 1>already signed such bills into law. At the start of

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 1>this year, new restructions were put into place for for

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 1>in in Texas to also restrict UM what K through

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:31.480
<v Speaker 1>twelve school sports people can be on now, making them

0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 1>specifically match they're sex listed on their birth certificate at

0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 1>a your time of birth UM and even when the

0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.640
<v Speaker 1>states who don't just have blanket bands. There's other horrifying

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 1>things happening, like in the beginning of last February, it

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:48.560
<v Speaker 1>came out that the Utah Republicans are making UH have

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 1>proposed a commission to analyze the bodies of trans kids

0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that would determine student athletes eligibility on a case by

0:59:56.480 --> 1:00:00.280
<v Speaker 1>case basis, with having the authority to establish a explain

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<v Speaker 1>range for fiscal characteristics affected by puberty, banning schools school

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<v Speaker 1>school athletes who do not fall within these established limits

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<v Speaker 1>from participating in generate sports UM. Also a non fun

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<v Speaker 1>fun side side but about the bill is that in

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<v Speaker 1>their efforts to analyze the bodies of trans kids, the

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<v Speaker 1>bill would also remember the commission immune from any lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>with respect to all acts done and actions taken in

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<v Speaker 1>good faith and carrying out their purposes. Um. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is something that I think is really

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<v Speaker 1>common specifically with transphobia, which is that like all of

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<v Speaker 1>the rhetoric about transphobia is about sort of like like

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<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of it's about molestation. Here's about amount

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<v Speaker 1>amount of it's about pedophilia, and then a specifically with

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<v Speaker 1>the most station part, it's like yeah, okay, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have this council, right, we're gonna have we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have this commission that these people are gonna they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to just like they're going to molest these kids, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But like this this is just something that happened to

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<v Speaker 1>the transpeople constant, like the t s A like constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just an enormal engine for just like like socially

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<v Speaker 1>abusing every single trans person who goes who goes into

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<v Speaker 1>an airport, Like I've definitely had not fun experiences at

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<v Speaker 1>the airport the past few times. Like this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing is It's like it's it's they they

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<v Speaker 1>impose as a sanction on trans people, the things that

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<v Speaker 1>they claim trans people are doing yes, and it's it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also interesting you'll find how many of these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bill sponsors politicians, um, eventually have it come

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<v Speaker 1>out that like they watch a lot of like trans

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<v Speaker 1>pornography and stuff. It's like it's it's all it's all fake,

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<v Speaker 1>like all like everything, like everything they say they don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually mean. It's all about the culture war. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>about all the fucking like save the children's stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all in opposite that they can get elected into politics. Right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about this with like that with like the

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<v Speaker 1>with the Texas thing, how all of the big New

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<v Speaker 1>Texas stuff happened like days before the primary election because

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<v Speaker 1>they were being challenged by by by other politicians that

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<v Speaker 1>were farther to the right of them. So it's all

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<v Speaker 1>like a political ploy. But the problem is is that

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<v Speaker 1>at certain points, because of how long the culture war

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<v Speaker 1>kind of idea has been going, there's people who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sincerely bought into the idea of the of the cultural

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<v Speaker 1>war now themselves running for office. Um. So like it

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<v Speaker 1>is like they do actually genuinely believe the things now

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is like it is like a full

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<v Speaker 1>circle thing of things that were just you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>to get votes initially, like things that weren't really believe sincerely,

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<v Speaker 1>just just to hold votes. But now people who were

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<v Speaker 1>brought up in that whole political idea are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>run for office who do actually believe those in those

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<v Speaker 1>things that sincerely So now it's it's leading, its leading

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<v Speaker 1>to a whole new kind of onslade of rights because

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<v Speaker 1>these people have just escalated and accelerated the whole culture

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<v Speaker 1>war idea. Yeah. Well, and and the other thing is

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<v Speaker 1>like they've linked up with people who, like people whose

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<v Speaker 1>politics at the church or people whose politics have specifically

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<v Speaker 1>been about eliminating trans people for like half a century.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Like there there's there's the linkages that are being

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<v Speaker 1>formed between people who have sort of like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>between these militantly anti trans organizations in between sort of

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<v Speaker 1>these people who buy into this, like either who are

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<v Speaker 1>very who who are cynically deploying the sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of Christian supremacist rhetoric, or the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>just actual like Christian fascists. Right like, these people like

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<v Speaker 1>these people are goying together to the point where it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it doesn't really matter why they're doing it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>at certain points, like the reason why specifically they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes immaterial and you're just sort of left with

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<v Speaker 1>the things that they are doing. Yeah, it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's just been so much of it the past

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<v Speaker 1>the past year, specifically like over like overall, more than

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred bills designed to restrict the rights of transgender

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<v Speaker 1>of transgender people have been introduced in at least thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three states. It justin just one, which is like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>become a record breaking here for any kind of anti

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<v Speaker 1>trans legislation. It's just it is accelerated to such a

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<v Speaker 1>extreme degree. UM and now continuing in two legislative cycle UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Last spring in in in in Arkansas, the state legislator

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<v Speaker 1>banned gender of her main care for minors UM, including

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<v Speaker 1>you know, puberty blockers HRT, all the stuff you know

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<v Speaker 1>UM and the House Bill one five seven oh prevents

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<v Speaker 1>transpeople from receiving hormotherapy, puberty blockers, similar treatments UM. It

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<v Speaker 1>was called the Save Adolescence from Experimentation Act UM, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>referring to medical treatment as experimentation UM. And shortly after

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<v Speaker 1>the bill was signed into law, UM, the doctors who

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<v Speaker 1>run the largest or who ran the largest provider of

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<v Speaker 1>of hormone therapy, and the state reported an increase in

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<v Speaker 1>suicide attempts in their patients during like just that same month. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was the first of its kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bill sign into law, and it was it was initially

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<v Speaker 1>vetoed by the governor, but then that veto was overturned

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<v Speaker 1>by the state legislator. So and that kind of similar

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<v Speaker 1>laws have been have been happening in states ever since then.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to talk about Texas, UM, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the one of the biggest, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest kind of things in this whole fight is the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff around Texas. So, Texas officials have begun investigating parents

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<v Speaker 1>of transgender adolescence for a possible child abuse, according to

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit filed on a few a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>after Governor Greg Abbott directed uh the the Child Protective

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<v Speaker 1>Services Agency in Texas, to handle certain medical treatments, including

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<v Speaker 1>puberty blockers and h RT as possible crimes. The directive

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<v Speaker 1>from Governor Abbott was following a non binding opinion by

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton UM saying that parents who

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<v Speaker 1>provide their transgender to natures with doctor prescribed a care

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<v Speaker 1>could be investigated for a child abuse. So the moves

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<v Speaker 1>by both Abbott and Paxixton try to Republican UH incumbents

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<v Speaker 1>came just days before the primary election UM in which

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<v Speaker 1>each of them faced significant challenges from farther right opponents. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've both they've faced criticism from not being staunch

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<v Speaker 1>staunchly anti trans enough in the past, like in the

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<v Speaker 1>months prior to this, and they did this to hopefully,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, gain support from the more radical, UH, more

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<v Speaker 1>radical voters in Texas. That's like, that is that is

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<v Speaker 1>undoubtedly a big, a big, big part of why this

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<v Speaker 1>happened at the time that it did. They did the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing both Paxiston, well, let's Paxton, but Abbott did

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<v Speaker 1>basically the same thing with like masks in the last

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<v Speaker 1>year two where it's like, yeah, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's great because the people are just they will

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<v Speaker 1>literally kill thousands of people or just hold onto their

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<v Speaker 1>power and it's among to be. The first people investigated

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<v Speaker 1>for child abuse was actually an employee by the States

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<v Speaker 1>Protective Services Agency who had a sixteen year old transgender child.

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<v Speaker 1>On March one, the a c l U of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and Lambda Lambda Legal great great name went to state

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<v Speaker 1>court in Austin to try to stop this inquiry into

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<v Speaker 1>this family. Who again, who who worked for? Who? Worked

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<v Speaker 1>for the Child Protective Services Agency UM. The employee, who

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<v Speaker 1>was not named in the court filing, works on reviews

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<v Speaker 1>of reports of abuse and neglect. She was paced on

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<v Speaker 1>administrative leave a few weeks ago. According to the filing,

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<v Speaker 1>the friday after Governor Abbott made the initial kind of

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<v Speaker 1>letter UM, she was visited by an investigator from the

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<v Speaker 1>agency UM, who was also seeking medical records related to

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<v Speaker 1>her child. UH. The family of the child, identified in

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<v Speaker 1>court documents only as Mary Doe has as as refused

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<v Speaker 1>to voluntarily at turnable records and as taking the case

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<v Speaker 1>to court. According to the lawsuit, the state investigator told

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<v Speaker 1>parents that the only allegation against them was that their

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<v Speaker 1>transgender daughter may have been provided with gender affirming healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>and was currently transitioning. And that was that was the claims,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the that was the basis for the claims

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<v Speaker 1>of of of of of child abuse. It's a so like. Initially,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't clear if Abbot's order would survive kind of

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<v Speaker 1>judicial scrutinty because the order does not any The order

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't change any Texas law. Um, it's just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion piece. And several county attorneys and district attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>of Dallas and Houston have publicly condemned Abbots and Pakiston's

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<v Speaker 1>directives UM, clarifying that they would not prosecute families for

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<v Speaker 1>child abuse under the new definition, and they would not

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<v Speaker 1>irrationally um and unjusfiably interfere with medical decisions. The mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of Austin announced that Austin should be considered a safe place,

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<v Speaker 1>a sanctuary for transgender children and their families, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would not be enforcing the governor's mandate. So it's quite

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<v Speaker 1>a time to be alive to have sanctuary cities for

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<v Speaker 1>being trans YEA. And of course all of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be from like the d A S or

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor, that doesn't stop trying to protective services from

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<v Speaker 1>not investigating you like that, doesn't like that doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>They can still investigate and harass you. They can still

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<v Speaker 1>send agents to your door. They can still try to

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<v Speaker 1>see his medical records, right, They can still investigate claims

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<v Speaker 1>even if even if the DA won't prosecute. There's still

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<v Speaker 1>that massive like looming threat of and like that like

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<v Speaker 1>terror like holding over you know, people's heads. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a it is like a mass it's

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<v Speaker 1>a massive scare tactic, right, it is. It is too

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<v Speaker 1>terrorize people like they will be too scared to transition

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't want their family to get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's pretty grim. It's pretty. It's pretty. It's pretty evil.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so on the for the for the a c

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<v Speaker 1>l U and the Lambda Legal Court failing. Uh, they

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're seeking to block the request for medical records

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<v Speaker 1>from the employees case and more broadly kind of challenged

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<v Speaker 1>the legitimacy of the entire investigation and the power that

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<v Speaker 1>the government has to change this definition of child abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a because it's it's it's it's it's also important

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<v Speaker 1>important to mention that the mandatory as the mandatory reporting

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of the bill, which was well not not bill

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the legal opinion that was really emphasized

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<v Speaker 1>in Governor Abbot's directive. Um Abbott described his letter that

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<v Speaker 1>the order would mean that all licensed professionals who have

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<v Speaker 1>direct contact with children, including doctors, nurses, therapists, and even

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<v Speaker 1>school teachers would be required to report to state authorities

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<v Speaker 1>um if if if they believe that there is a

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<v Speaker 1>minor who's trans or could be receiving any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gender affirming treatment. Um and if they don't report this,

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<v Speaker 1>they could themselves faced criminal penalties. So the whole, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole mandatory warning aspects in other like insanely insanely bad

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we could talk about it for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode is getting long enough, so we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>continue through and we can we can ponder at how

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<v Speaker 1>at how bad that is. Um. One parent of a

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<v Speaker 1>transgender a teenager in Houston to the family's health clinic,

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<v Speaker 1>Legacy Community Health has suspended all refills and new prescriptions

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<v Speaker 1>for a transgender youth in light of Abbot's new order.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's happening, Like, yeah, it's there, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff has happened, the stuff has started. It's it's already

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<v Speaker 1>scaring people into not doing stuff like it's it's that

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<v Speaker 1>is what it was designed to do. Yeah, and and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I know we keep making this episode longer,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it is worth mentioning that, like it actually

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<v Speaker 1>like having someone even temporarily like being off of the

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<v Speaker 1>hormones that they've been taking for for HRT, like that

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<v Speaker 1>fucking sucks. Yeah, it's like it has really bad negative effects.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, like people will be surprised how fast

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<v Speaker 1>hormones start working and how fast going off of them

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<v Speaker 1>they stop working. Like it is it is, It is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty it is pretty surprising. And like I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get tons into like the science of being trans

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<v Speaker 1>in this because that's because that's not the focus of

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<v Speaker 1>this week. We're talking with the legislation and the onslaught

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<v Speaker 1>of queer rights of people trying to hurt them. But

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's it's obvious that like there is

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<v Speaker 1>not many cases at all where there's being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like genital surgery done on minors. Like if that does

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<v Speaker 1>that does not happen. It can happen for like medical

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<v Speaker 1>like that can happen for medically necessary reasons, like if

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<v Speaker 1>there's like accidents and stuff, But that doesn't happen for

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<v Speaker 1>gender affirming care. What happens is you get on you

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<v Speaker 1>you you go on puberty blockers, which are already prescribed

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<v Speaker 1>to assist gender kids all the time. Um, if they

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<v Speaker 1>have early on puberty, they have no lasting side effects,

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<v Speaker 1>they're completely safe. Um And in some cases, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>the kids therapists and their doctors, they may be prescribed

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<v Speaker 1>HRT or they will be prescribed that a bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is that even still, that is that is

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<v Speaker 1>the only things that happened. Um, And what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to suppress is both but both of those things. But

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<v Speaker 1>also like the ability for like therapists to even talk

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<v Speaker 1>about gender with kids, Like kids are having problems with

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<v Speaker 1>with like with gender dysphoria, they don't feel comfortable to

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<v Speaker 1>even have to not even be able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>that to talk talking about those feelings with therapists is

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<v Speaker 1>like part is part of the goal because that can

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<v Speaker 1>be considered gender affirming care. Um. I think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>one other thing we really should mention, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>so there there is one kind like one that is

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<v Speaker 1>the few, but that there's there there's a very important

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like quote unquote like gender surgery that is

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<v Speaker 1>done on children, which is the stuff that's one to

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<v Speaker 1>intersect kids, Yes, I mean sex kids. Yeah. Also like

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<v Speaker 1>circumcisions are already like yeah, but I mean with with

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<v Speaker 1>specific with intersext kids. This stuff matters because all of

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<v Speaker 1>these bills that you're talking about, where's like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have gender affirming surgery. You can't have like surgery

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<v Speaker 1>and kids. Like every single one of these bills like that,

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<v Speaker 1>they all have They all specifically have card carve outs

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<v Speaker 1>to allow doctors to funk up the generals of inter

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<v Speaker 1>sex kids. Yeah. That's it's it's all carved out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well let's see. We we are. We are

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<v Speaker 1>near the last we are. We're near near, near the

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<v Speaker 1>last little stretch here. Um. On March eleventh, a Texas

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<v Speaker 1>State court halted the new Department of Family Protective Services

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<v Speaker 1>policy of investigating the parents of transgender children. UM District

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<v Speaker 1>District Judge Amy Mention concluded on concluded the hearing on

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<v Speaker 1>the requested statewide injunction by saying, quote, the Governor's directive

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<v Speaker 1>was given the effect of new law or new agency

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<v Speaker 1>rule despite there being no new legislation, regulation, or even

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<v Speaker 1>agency policy. Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Department of Family

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<v Speaker 1>Protective Services Commissioner Baby Masters of their actions violate the

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<v Speaker 1>separation of powers by impermissibly approaching into the legislative domain.

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<v Speaker 1>UM Judge Mentiontion also granted a temporary restraining order blocking

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<v Speaker 1>the state from investigating the family that that that prompted

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<v Speaker 1>this lawsuit happening from the from the person who already

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<v Speaker 1>worked at the Department of a Family Protective Services UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Attorney General Kent Pactonum appealed this decision. Well, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, he appealed the restraining order and lost that appeal. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the the s o U is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make this temporaries training order against the state permanent and

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<v Speaker 1>extend to all parents of all transgender kids in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's there's gonna be a whole trial scheduled for

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<v Speaker 1>this topic on July eleven, two. So this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna get this is gonna happen, like where

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<v Speaker 1>where we will figure out what is gonna happen with

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<v Speaker 1>this later on this year. UM. And after the judges

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<v Speaker 1>ruling halting the investigations due to lack of legal binding,

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Ken Paxton filed an appeal for for for

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<v Speaker 1>the ruling. So and that's so, so that's that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get appealed. UM. And he he tweeted out that the

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<v Speaker 1>quote Democrat judges order permitting child abuse is frozen. Much

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<v Speaker 1>needed investigations will proceed as they should. The fight will

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<v Speaker 1>continue up to the Supreme Court. I'm ready for it, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's unclear how much legal backing this actually has,

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't know if if the if the if

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<v Speaker 1>the Protective Services actually has permission to keep investigating or not.

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<v Speaker 1>It is kind of unclear. Paxton says that they can this,

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<v Speaker 1>this state judge says they can't, and that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>legally up in the air right now, so we don't

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<v Speaker 1>totally know. But there's gonna be a whole trial on

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<v Speaker 1>the topic in July. UM. Kind of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>last things I want to mention is, uh, this this

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<v Speaker 1>Idaho bill that was passed by the House of Representatives

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<v Speaker 1>that would that would criminalize gender affirming medical procedures, including

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<v Speaker 1>property blocker, sorry, including puberty blockers an HRT for any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of trans transgend gender youth. And it was also

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<v Speaker 1>reported that the bill would make it a felony punishable

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<v Speaker 1>by life imprisonment to anyone who helps a kid travel

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<v Speaker 1>across state lines to get gender affirming healthcare. But this

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<v Speaker 1>actually maybe isn't actually true, Like this actually probably wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that bill. Um. The bill just amend's

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<v Speaker 1>current laws regarding female genital mutilation, of course of carving

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<v Speaker 1>out a specific section to allow the mutilation of intersext

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<v Speaker 1>kits um. But uh, but yeah, it added a section

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<v Speaker 1>also criminalizing gender firm and care. Um. But the section

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<v Speaker 1>of the bill making it a felony to travel out

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<v Speaker 1>of state only refers to the general mutilation section. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't refer to the gender firm in care section.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's unclear if that was an oversight um or

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<v Speaker 1>if the limitation was intentional, who knows. Um, But it

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<v Speaker 1>still did attempt to criminalize gender firm and care within

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<v Speaker 1>the state. The bill was I believe, I think earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this morning as of time time of recording, the bill

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<v Speaker 1>was not passed by the Senate. UM. So that's good. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They said the Senate that it was too vague in

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<v Speaker 1>scope and it was unclear how it was to be enforced.

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<v Speaker 1>So that bill was halted and it did not did

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<v Speaker 1>not continue. Um. Yeah, but you know that's yeah. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of the reason why all stuff has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of started is that, like there has been so

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<v Speaker 1>much progress happening in queer rights in the past like

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, right, Um, so, now because the progress is

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<v Speaker 1>more visible, what was once like obvious but like low

1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:26.280
<v Speaker 1>key bigotry is trying to be put into law. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's there used to be so many medical hoops

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<v Speaker 1>to jump through to get any type of gender affirming treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>but now almost every like legit medical organization recognizes the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of gender firm and care. So that plus the

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<v Speaker 1>visibility and the cultural acceptance of queerness is making some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mostly good old white Christian conservative populations a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit uncomfortable. Right, There's there's this increasing fear that

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<v Speaker 1>what if your kid thinks they're trans, well, what if

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<v Speaker 1>what if they become an unholy degenerate? What if? And

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<v Speaker 1>what if there are people trying to make that happen

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose. Right, all of the brutal reality, all of like,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the brutality in these bills, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the not like the total nonchalance at the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kids killing themselves because of this bill and

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<v Speaker 1>because of all these legislations. So all of like the

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<v Speaker 1>transphobia negatively contributing to mental health, all of that brutality

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<v Speaker 1>is just justified in the minds of these anti trans

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<v Speaker 1>like people, because it's to save that, it's to save

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<v Speaker 1>their kids from experiencing that in the first place. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the idea that queerness is an infection, that it

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<v Speaker 1>can spread from person to person. It's like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like a contagion. If you hear about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you could yourself become gay. So they don't hear about it,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's not going to be a possibility. So all

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<v Speaker 1>all of the brutality, it's like, it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>both the point, but it's also justified because this thing

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<v Speaker 1>is seen as such like an it's seen as such

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<v Speaker 1>an ontological threat to their whole idea of like the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's uh, and it's I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna stop right every you know, one, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>a massive increase in le legislation on this topic. Twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, we're seeing an even bigger increased in legislation

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<v Speaker 1>on this topic, and you know, attempts to physically oppose it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's our can can kind of be done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you can you can see all there

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<v Speaker 1>was some some successful kind of protests to the whole

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<v Speaker 1>school board thing. You can also like you can sneak

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<v Speaker 1>queer books into libraries, so you can just put you

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<v Speaker 1>can just put them in there. Um, you can request

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<v Speaker 1>queer books in your library systems. Um, you can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>attend school board meetings. And again it's sure that the

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<v Speaker 1>institution of the institution of schooling is problematic um in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways, but it's we shouldn't make it

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<v Speaker 1>worse for queer kids. So maybe it's still is worth

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<v Speaker 1>actually focusing on. And there's there's a lot, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can, like like in the case of the still

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<v Speaker 1>U suit, there is legal challenges being taken up against

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things. We'll see how that goes. The

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<v Speaker 1>there's always been a there's always been a shaky record

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<v Speaker 1>of the legal you know of like the court's ability

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<v Speaker 1>to protect these rights. But every once in a while

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<v Speaker 1>it does happen, like with like with gay marriage. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing I'll mention with like specifically with like

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<v Speaker 1>HRT being made illegal in a lot of these places

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<v Speaker 1>at least like prescribed vida doctor. Um, I will kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk. I will mention um d I y HRT

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<v Speaker 1>as the thing that that that is the thing, it

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<v Speaker 1>exists You can go to d I y h RT

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<v Speaker 1>dot get hub dot io to get information on this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been It requires a lot of research, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can find like you can get h you can get

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<v Speaker 1>like estrogen and stuff from like like made by the

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<v Speaker 1>companies that that supply pharmacies. You can buy that legally. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Testosterones a little bit more iffy because that is I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it is like a schedule tour scheduled three

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<v Speaker 1>drug UM. But estrogen is much more available UM to

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<v Speaker 1>buy legally online. To just make sure you get it

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<v Speaker 1>from a good place and make sure that you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>know how it affects you and all that stuff, like

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<v Speaker 1>do lots of reading. But that is a possibility. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will probably plan an episode on d A y

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<v Speaker 1>h r T in the near future just it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a whole episode the topic. But I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mention that as one of the last things

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<v Speaker 1>that being like, yeah, if they're restricting all these stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>we should probably you know, learn to provided ourselves because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no guarantee that the government's or any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>even like pharmacies will be able to do that forever. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's good to have alternative methods of figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out how to get the drugs that make you feel nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that was that is my episode on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the legislation that has been happening in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>in the past really like six months. Um yeah, that's fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but by the time there there there might there might

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<v Speaker 1>be new stuff that has happened. Oh, most certainly. Yeah. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why when you know, when all this stuff gets

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<v Speaker 1>very depressing, I just like listening to my favorite Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen's song by Pink Floyd and it really just really

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<v Speaker 1>does held me down and make you feel much better. Wow. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go listen to the new uh double them

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<v Speaker 1>that A hundred Gecks did with Billy Joel I Do

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<v Speaker 1>I Do love Me someone hundred gus mhm yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>Gus Joel concert. It's even I hear that that Elton

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<v Speaker 1>John is going to get into and they're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. That would be quite the show. Honestly, that

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<v Speaker 1>would would be a fascinating experience. That would be a

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<v Speaker 1>very mix of like horny women in their sixties and

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<v Speaker 1>horny seventeen year olds. What would happen? Well, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>is Ah, there are plenty of organizations that are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fighting inst and stuff in Texas. UM. I could list them,

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<v Speaker 1>but honestly, if you if you if you're not there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's if you mean you should, you should.

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<v Speaker 1>You should look into what's happening in your area, Learn

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<v Speaker 1>what legislation is being passed in your area, learn what

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<v Speaker 1>your you know, representatives are doing, and look into helping

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<v Speaker 1>people get the way Turkey. That's really that's really. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a way that bodybuilders can get testosterone, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a way that you can get testosterone for transguise, if

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<v Speaker 1>estrogen is much easier to get, um, so look into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't. Don't be stupid. Um. But yeah, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a that's that is. That is that is my piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Find joy, find violence, and find the correct application of

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<v Speaker 1>the two that allows people to stay alive. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah and uh listen to listen to music

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you happy. That is that is that is

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<v Speaker 1>all you can do. All you can all all you

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<v Speaker 1>can do, yeah is find your favorite YouTube album, uh

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<v Speaker 1>featuring Roger Waters. All right, good bye,