1
00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,719
Speaker 1: Do you know what I love is decadent Western sexual mores. Well,

2
00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,560
Speaker 1: that actually does tie you into what we're talking about.

3
00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:18,320
Speaker 1: What you were reading, Jesus Dear God when I when

4
00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,919
Speaker 1: I logged into this call an hour late, Garrison was

5
00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,160
Speaker 1: studiously reading reading a book by with the screen centered

6
00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,840
Speaker 1: on the cover. We gotta bleep this out and have it,

7
00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,000
Speaker 1: have it be the new thing that's bleeped out. I

8
00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:36,280
Speaker 1: agree with that. Actually, yes, good call. That way, we

9
00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,680
Speaker 1: can just do a whole series of jokes where we

10
00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:45,760
Speaker 1: just like pill people on fascist esotericism. What a what

11
00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,360
Speaker 1: a fun joke that would be happen here show we

12
00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,920
Speaker 1: talk about things that could happen, of about just talking

13
00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,880
Speaker 1: about the onslaught of of bills that have been introduced

14
00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,440
Speaker 1: the past few months that attacking kind of trans rights

15
00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,680
Speaker 1: and queer people in general. Yeah, so we've we've we

16
00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,240
Speaker 1: we've heard about gay marriage, We've heard about turfs a

17
00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,880
Speaker 1: lot the past the past few episodes, and now we're

18
00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,520
Speaker 1: going to be kind of focusing on the Yeah, like

19
00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,679
Speaker 1: I said, the kind of current legislation that's happened specifically

20
00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,920
Speaker 1: within the past six months, um that I've been targeting

21
00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,440
Speaker 1: kind of LGBTQ people in in schools, particularly that, and

22
00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,440
Speaker 1: a lot of it's been targeted towards towards miners, teen teens, adolescents,

23
00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,600
Speaker 1: UM and restricting the visibility and uh and kind of

24
00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,800
Speaker 1: what's allowed to be said and mentioned in schools. So

25
00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,559
Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of actually talk about UM books first,

26
00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,480
Speaker 1: because a lot of this stuff is kind of tied

27
00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:52,919
Speaker 1: into the critical race theory UM kind of like organizing

28
00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:59,440
Speaker 1: that the right was doing. So. Yeah. The American Library

29
00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,440
Speaker 1: Association says that between September and December alone, they received

30
00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,799
Speaker 1: more than three thirty reports of book challenges, for which

31
00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,680
Speaker 1: is the most over two decades in terms of people

32
00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,160
Speaker 1: trying to restrict what books are allowed to be in schools. Boy,

33
00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,280
Speaker 1: I experienced a book challenge lately. Tell you what, trying

34
00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,240
Speaker 1: to read through the new James Patterson book. What do

35
00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,280
Speaker 1: either of you know who James Patterson is? No? Was

36
00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,519
Speaker 1: this was this was a bad idea on my back?

37
00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,720
Speaker 1: Please continue, Garrison, I was. I was busy reading the

38
00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,359
Speaker 1: before you logged on. I have a different interest in books.

39
00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,600
Speaker 1: You know, actually very similar books, very similar and the

40
00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,480
Speaker 1: Pelican brief basically identical. I have no idea how much.

41
00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,480
Speaker 1: That's gonna get bleeped, but it's gonna be funny. Um

42
00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:55,120
Speaker 1: so yeah. A Tennessee school's removal of Mars the Holocaust

43
00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,720
Speaker 1: graphic biography became kind of the most famous example of

44
00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,600
Speaker 1: this trend a few months ago. Um, the book was

45
00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,960
Speaker 1: allegedly banned due to due to nudity and because of

46
00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,440
Speaker 1: curse words. But this is kind of you know it was.

47
00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,600
Speaker 1: They claimed it had nothing to do with actual political content. Um,

48
00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,360
Speaker 1: it was just because of the the inappropriate images to children,

49
00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,720
Speaker 1: which is a little a little dubious since it's all

50
00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, starring mice. Um yeah, yeah. But the majority

51
00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,680
Speaker 1: of challenged books have been kind of those focused on

52
00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,639
Speaker 1: lgbt Q characters or themes. Back in November, nearly two

53
00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,760
Speaker 1: dozen people a day we're dying from COVID nineteen in

54
00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,120
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Thank god that god better. Thank god we

55
00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,080
Speaker 1: knocked that ship out. But rather than try to handle

56
00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:49,320
Speaker 1: the public health crisis, Governor Henry McMaster seemed more interested

57
00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,360
Speaker 1: in pressuring the state's Department of Education to crack down

58
00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,160
Speaker 1: on queer theme two books. He directed the Department of

59
00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,240
Speaker 1: Education and the State Board of Education to create quote,

60
00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,040
Speaker 1: statewide standards and directives prevent pornography and other obscene content

61
00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,920
Speaker 1: from entering our state's public schools and libraries of the

62
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,640
Speaker 1: Governor said in a letter to the Superintendent of Education.

63
00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,680
Speaker 1: Inside the letter, it was specifically targeted towards uh Maya

64
00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,960
Speaker 1: Kobe's book Gender Queer, a Memoir UM, which is a

65
00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,359
Speaker 1: gender queer graphic novel kind of detailing what it's what

66
00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,600
Speaker 1: it's like to be gender queer. It's definitely popular among

67
00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,240
Speaker 1: kind of the adult like a young adult kind of

68
00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,599
Speaker 1: age range and and as and as a good resource

69
00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,680
Speaker 1: for kind of gender bending type stuff. Um and it

70
00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,719
Speaker 1: has faced a large amount of a large amount of

71
00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,240
Speaker 1: the onslaught and like the bashing of queer books have

72
00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,520
Speaker 1: been focused on this specific book. It's an autobiographical book

73
00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,000
Speaker 1: based on the Bay Area non binary writer and the

74
00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,400
Speaker 1: illustrator UM. It's been challenged and it started being challenged

75
00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,080
Speaker 1: at one of South Carolina's nearly five hundred schools and

76
00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,960
Speaker 1: then got banned from all of them just because people

77
00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,680
Speaker 1: were mad at about it. At one school, it was

78
00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,400
Speaker 1: being recommended for those in the tenth grade or higher

79
00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,560
Speaker 1: to learn about kind of queer issues UM and it

80
00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,000
Speaker 1: is now become one of the most banned books of

81
00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,400
Speaker 1: this past year. It's been removed from schools in Virginia,

82
00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,279
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Florida, North and South Carolina, Texas, and a

83
00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,200
Speaker 1: large amount of other states in the South. Um. Speaking

84
00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,359
Speaker 1: speaking of Texas, the Agenda Queer Graphic novel was just

85
00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,039
Speaker 1: one part of a massive kind of horrifying purge led

86
00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,400
Speaker 1: by Texas Republican state Representative Matt cross Uh. He he

87
00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,400
Speaker 1: led an effort to pressure and forced schools and libraries

88
00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,440
Speaker 1: to remove books based on a list of undesirable reads

89
00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,120
Speaker 1: that he compiled himself. Um. The list is a sixteen

90
00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,080
Speaker 1: page spreadsheet with over eight hundred and fifty books cataloged

91
00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,800
Speaker 1: on Crouse's eight hundred and fifty strong list of titles

92
00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,000
Speaker 1: that he wants spanned from Texas libraries, of them concerned

93
00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,279
Speaker 1: LGBTQ issues. Um, it's kind of clear that what he

94
00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,760
Speaker 1: did this, Yeah, well what what what? What? What he

95
00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,599
Speaker 1: did to make this list is just like googling the

96
00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,320
Speaker 1: words like queer and l g b t Q and

97
00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,440
Speaker 1: g and trans like with book and just found a

98
00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,000
Speaker 1: list of books that have it like mentioned to somewhere,

99
00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,840
Speaker 1: so like a lot of so many books are just

100
00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,479
Speaker 1: like completely a banned that aren't even really like yeah,

101
00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,520
Speaker 1: like the list is nearly one thousand books, like log

102
00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,200
Speaker 1: so like he was just like Google searching to like

103
00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,760
Speaker 1: add as many books to lists as that he could.

104
00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,680
Speaker 1: It's not actually about the content beyond the fact that

105
00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,240
Speaker 1: the content acknowledge the existence of queer people. Like yeah,

106
00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,480
Speaker 1: that's to the extent that he knows about the content.

107
00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,560
Speaker 1: That's it, Like, you can't be reading all these books no,

108
00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,640
Speaker 1: because like one of the more interesting trends that you

109
00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,480
Speaker 1: can find on this list is that it challenges and

110
00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,239
Speaker 1: tries to ban books that teach students like their legal rights,

111
00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,960
Speaker 1: um like not even counting books about like reproductive rights

112
00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,799
Speaker 1: or writes his like l g b t Q people.

113
00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,720
Speaker 1: It also it includes in this list like titles like

114
00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,560
Speaker 1: the Legal Atlas of the Unit in States, um Team

115
00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:08,120
Speaker 1: legal Rights, Uh, the legal Rights, Yeah, equal Rights, we

116
00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,000
Speaker 1: the students, Supreme Court cases for and about students. Uh yeah,

117
00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,239
Speaker 1: I mean this is my my support for LGBTQ people

118
00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,000
Speaker 1: is worring here with my belief that children should not

119
00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,160
Speaker 1: know their rights because they're they're they're they're they're getting

120
00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,440
Speaker 1: too upty. As it is, we gotta we gotta crack look,

121
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,200
Speaker 1: could we crack down on kids in a way that

122
00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,920
Speaker 1: isn't bigoted, That's all I'm asking for. Nope, nope, absolutely no,

123
00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,040
Speaker 1: we gotta slow them down. Kids. You must know your rights.

124
00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,840
Speaker 1: And the very important thing here is that if you

125
00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,760
Speaker 1: keep WE in your locker, the school can just search it.

126
00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,320
Speaker 1: So don't put in your locker. If you put it

127
00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,480
Speaker 1: in your car, they it's it's way harder for them

128
00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:52,640
Speaker 1: to search it in the principles car store guns. They're wait, okay, sorry,

129
00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,040
Speaker 1: let's um. Yeah, I'm not sure if you can find

130
00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,920
Speaker 1: that in the legal acts less of the United States.

131
00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,560
Speaker 1: But to be fair, Texas kids can't read that book

132
00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,520
Speaker 1: either now, so who knows who knows what it sets? Yeah,

133
00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,880
Speaker 1: So to Virginia, school board members kind of called for

134
00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,120
Speaker 1: a sexual books quote unquote sexual books to be burned

135
00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,120
Speaker 1: at a meeting last year. Um, and a lot of these,

136
00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,120
Speaker 1: like a lot of the rhetoric around like book book

137
00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,600
Speaker 1: burnings and book bannings was specifically tied to the kind

138
00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,120
Speaker 1: of the effort to harass and gain support in school boards.

139
00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,000
Speaker 1: And we saw us last year with like proud boys

140
00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,960
Speaker 1: and extremists, and it's like other like random people who

141
00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,880
Speaker 1: got their brains kind of warped by propaganda kind of

142
00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,880
Speaker 1: leading these like incendiary charges against against the school board members.

143
00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,400
Speaker 1: Some you know, the school board members got fired, like

144
00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,400
Speaker 1: threatened with arrest just for allowing books that mentioned the

145
00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,560
Speaker 1: existence of being queer. It was, it was, it was

146
00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,559
Speaker 1: quite quite a problem that is now influencing this current

147
00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,680
Speaker 1: legislative cycle. UM. In almost every case, quote unquote, like

148
00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,760
Speaker 1: concerned parents have swarmed school board meetings and flooded kind

149
00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:02,800
Speaker 1: of mailboxes with outrage over what they call pornography UM

150
00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,240
Speaker 1: being distributed to their children. You know, people will will

151
00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,120
Speaker 1: plaster signs with you know, scenes from the gender queer

152
00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,959
Speaker 1: graphic novel that is like what they they they deem

153
00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,960
Speaker 1: as being like porno like pornographic UM when it just

154
00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,559
Speaker 1: depicts like how how like adults and young adults behave accurately,

155
00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,200
Speaker 1: just like you can find in any like fucking like

156
00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,080
Speaker 1: Batman comic. Like it's not like it's it's like it's

157
00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,920
Speaker 1: like not it's it's it's it's both in line with

158
00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,719
Speaker 1: other comic books and also like it's obviously dealing with

159
00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,440
Speaker 1: like issues around being queer as like that's the whole

160
00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,360
Speaker 1: point of it. So but yeah, just blasting this blasting

161
00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,280
Speaker 1: like queerness as innately pornographic, is you know, a big,

162
00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,560
Speaker 1: a big part of this type of propaganda push. It's it's, uh,

163
00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,480
Speaker 1: it's pretty upsetic because I mean a lot of these

164
00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,839
Speaker 1: adults and like quote unquote parents, you know, who knows

165
00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,560
Speaker 1: if they're actually parents. You know, it even goes and

166
00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,520
Speaker 1: stuff to being like, you know, they're accusing librarians and

167
00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,360
Speaker 1: teachers of being pedophiles for having this, for the having

168
00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,400
Speaker 1: these type of materials. In Wyoming, prosecutors considered charging library

169
00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,160
Speaker 1: staff with stalking books about sexuality, um, including like literary

170
00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,959
Speaker 1: classics under like the sex said banner, like sex is

171
00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,760
Speaker 1: a funny word and this book is gay. Um, but

172
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,000
Speaker 1: I considered charging library staff, like with cribs, for for

173
00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,200
Speaker 1: stalking these books, which are like very typical sex said books.

174
00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,240
Speaker 1: It's it's incredible because when I was in a Texas

175
00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,800
Speaker 1: public school, I read all of the Wheel of Time

176
00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,360
Speaker 1: books from my school library, and those are horny in

177
00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,200
Speaker 1: a much much more unhealthy way than any of the

178
00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,880
Speaker 1: books that you're talking about could possibly be described as well.

179
00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,280
Speaker 1: You get that, you get this fun thing where it's

180
00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800
Speaker 1: like they're basically running the clock back on the turf

181
00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,440
Speaker 1: arc like if you if you remember, we're talking about

182
00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,840
Speaker 1: church in Mexico. It was okay, So the ark that

183
00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,920
Speaker 1: they did was they were anti porn people, but then

184
00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,080
Speaker 1: they lost anti porn wars, so they became anti trafficking people.

185
00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,280
Speaker 1: And then when sort of turfishing came back, they went

186
00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,280
Speaker 1: from anti trafficking back to being turfs. And it's like this,

187
00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,640
Speaker 1: this is literally they're they're doing this whole thing in

188
00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,760
Speaker 1: reverse right there. Their starting position is that their anti

189
00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,360
Speaker 1: trans and they're just going back to like the anti

190
00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,559
Speaker 1: porn stuff, but like bringing in and sort of like

191
00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,040
Speaker 1: bringing in an anti trafficking angle, and it's it's great,

192
00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,480
Speaker 1: It's extremely fun. Yeah, this is I would describe this

193
00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,680
Speaker 1: is fun. This is what I consider a fun time. Yeah,

194
00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,320
Speaker 1: well I know what you consider a fun time here.

195
00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,960
Speaker 1: You do notice my my carefully place, carefully placed books

196
00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,080
Speaker 1: on on my Yes, I'm extremely aware of that. Garrison.

197
00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,079
Speaker 1: Harrison is reading books that will get them canceled by

198
00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,640
Speaker 1: like five specific people if we talk about them too

199
00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,240
Speaker 1: much on this show. That is always the fear of

200
00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,559
Speaker 1: that's always the fear of Twitter. It's being canceled by

201
00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,720
Speaker 1: five people. My favorite thing about doing a podcast for

202
00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,520
Speaker 1: an audience of millions, Garrison is telling a joke that

203
00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,480
Speaker 1: is that is precisely for you and me and making

204
00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,160
Speaker 1: that like several minutes of content. Sorry. Um, And Oklahoma

205
00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,800
Speaker 1: bill was introduced to the state Senate that would prohibit

206
00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,520
Speaker 1: school libraries from keeping books that focused on sexual activity,

207
00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,560
Speaker 1: sexual identity, or a gender identity. Um, you're gonna gonna

208
00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,679
Speaker 1: use the word gender identity a lot. That kind of

209
00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,959
Speaker 1: just refers to anything that even I mean, like it

210
00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,240
Speaker 1: refers to even mentions of being cinis gender, right, because

211
00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,520
Speaker 1: if you bring up the concept of cis gender, that

212
00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,880
Speaker 1: infers that there is an alternative to that. So so

213
00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,120
Speaker 1: like even any if anything even mentions being sis, it

214
00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,120
Speaker 1: means that there must be something other. So that already

215
00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,839
Speaker 1: falls into the gender identity kind of framework. So it's

216
00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,120
Speaker 1: just like anything that suggests that you are that you

217
00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,600
Speaker 1: that there's like, gender identity is not something you are

218
00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,760
Speaker 1: innately born with and are forever, is is gonna be

219
00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be is banned and is seen as pornographic

220
00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,560
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing or is like grooming children or whatever

221
00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,560
Speaker 1: kind of words that they use. Um, And like all

222
00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,599
Speaker 1: of this rhetoric is much worse for l g B

223
00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,520
Speaker 1: two Q authors who are black or people of color.

224
00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,560
Speaker 1: There's books like All Boys Aren't Blue by writer George M. Johnson,

225
00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,360
Speaker 1: whose whose book led one white school board member to

226
00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,439
Speaker 1: call the police on her own district's librarian for keeping

227
00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,160
Speaker 1: it in stock. It's uh the the the Central York

228
00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,160
Speaker 1: School District in Pennsylvania, and an extensive list of books

229
00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,920
Speaker 1: last year that was almost entirely written by the authors

230
00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,679
Speaker 1: of color. This is all the stuff has been happening,

231
00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,760
Speaker 1: like concurrently with the anti critical race theory, like organizing

232
00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,559
Speaker 1: in protests, which again obviously isn't about actual critical race theory,

233
00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,880
Speaker 1: just about the suggestion that maybe racism is something that

234
00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,600
Speaker 1: is not just an individual problem, but it's maybe kind

235
00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,280
Speaker 1: of built into our entire culture and system of governance,

236
00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,160
Speaker 1: UM and education. So it's it's not actual critical race theory,

237
00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,920
Speaker 1: it's that. But I think everyone listening to this kind

238
00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,600
Speaker 1: of already are already knows that Texas Governor Greg Abbott,

239
00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,560
Speaker 1: which is gonna be just who's gonna be a recurring

240
00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,839
Speaker 1: character on this episode, UM, kind of has taken this

241
00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,439
Speaker 1: whole you know, calling the police on librarians thing, uh

242
00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,080
Speaker 1: much further kind of demanding that the state's education agency

243
00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,600
Speaker 1: quote investigate any criminal activity in our public schools involving

244
00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,400
Speaker 1: the availability of pornography, a move that kind of librarians

245
00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,440
Speaker 1: in the state fear could make them targets of criminal complaints.

246
00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,240
Speaker 1: For again, the stalking books about sex said, or you know,

247
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,840
Speaker 1: stalking books that not even not not not even not

248
00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,600
Speaker 1: even not even but like sex head, just just like

249
00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,160
Speaker 1: books that mentioned an alternative to the heteronormative, like you

250
00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,760
Speaker 1: are the gender that you are signed at birth, like idea,

251
00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,960
Speaker 1: like anything other than that is now could get them

252
00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,360
Speaker 1: in trouble. So anything that doesn't kind of fall under

253
00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,800
Speaker 1: the Christian supremacist like worldview of sexuality and gender. It's

254
00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,320
Speaker 1: it's not great. There's a it's so yeah, all boys

255
00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,680
Speaker 1: aren't blue. The book written by by George M. Johnson,

256
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,120
Speaker 1: has been similar to the gender queer graphic novel is

257
00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800
Speaker 1: one of the most banned books of last year, targeted

258
00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,280
Speaker 1: for removal in at least a fifteen states. Um, it's

259
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the organizing of these efforts kind of

260
00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,000
Speaker 1: start online. There's like Telegram channels, Facebook groups, and then

261
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,680
Speaker 1: they carry over into like school board protests, and then

262
00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,680
Speaker 1: eventually like you know, maybe some school board members will

263
00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,040
Speaker 1: will will catch onto this and start advocating for it.

264
00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,720
Speaker 1: Then you know, the state governor, does you know it's

265
00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,000
Speaker 1: city city councilman. Like all of this thing is is

266
00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,920
Speaker 1: is his whole cycle of organizing that's really picked up

267
00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,560
Speaker 1: alongside the anti CRT stuff many many parents have seen,

268
00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,920
Speaker 1: like Google docs or spreadsheets like the sixteen page one

269
00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,360
Speaker 1: made by Matt Krausse of of contentious titles posted on

270
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,600
Speaker 1: Facebook by local chapters of organizations such as Mom's for Liberty.

271
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,640
Speaker 1: So people will make these giant, giant spend streets talking

272
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,840
Speaker 1: about books that they don't like, and then they'll get

273
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,280
Speaker 1: shared around on Facebook groups, Telegram channels from their librarians.

274
00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,600
Speaker 1: Uh say that parents will ask their schools if these

275
00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,720
Speaker 1: books are available inside libraries, and then we'll start rallying

276
00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,360
Speaker 1: and organizing to get them banned from being available in

277
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,080
Speaker 1: any kind of public, public government setting, whether that be

278
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,320
Speaker 1: school libraries, whether it be like public libraries, whether that

279
00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,440
Speaker 1: be like online access, all this type of stuff. So yeah,

280
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,560
Speaker 1: it's a it's I don't know, it's Organizing against these

281
00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,840
Speaker 1: types of things is never the easiest thing, um, because

282
00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,800
Speaker 1: a lot of times they these people get really get

283
00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,440
Speaker 1: really dedicated onto this because it is such a it's

284
00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,200
Speaker 1: it's it's the whole save the children a kind of

285
00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,320
Speaker 1: idea which gave Q and On such strength, and Q

286
00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,280
Speaker 1: and On is kind of taking a dip down. This

287
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,640
Speaker 1: stuff is taking a rise up. It's kind of it's

288
00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,000
Speaker 1: passing over the same type of organizing principles online. As

289
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,280
Speaker 1: as mentioned before, the governor of South Carolina asked the

290
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,840
Speaker 1: state's Superintendent of Education but also it's law enforcement division,

291
00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,400
Speaker 1: to investigate the presence of quote obscene in pornographic materials

292
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 1: from its public schools um you know, citing the Gender

293
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,760
Speaker 1: and Queer graphic novel as an example that you've seen.

294
00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,800
Speaker 1: You've seen mayors in difference in different cities withhold funding

295
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,280
Speaker 1: from county libraries saying that he will not release money

296
00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,159
Speaker 1: to these candy library systems until books with lgbt Q

297
00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,880
Speaker 1: themes are removed. It's it's pretty grim, uh, And so

298
00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,760
Speaker 1: far efforts to bring criminal charges against librarians and educators

299
00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,560
Speaker 1: have largely faltered, as as law enforcement officials in like

300
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,600
Speaker 1: Florida and Wyoming and other sites for this type of

301
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,679
Speaker 1: thing has been attempted. Have you know, found really no

302
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,520
Speaker 1: basis for criminal investigations. But still it's like the same

303
00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,119
Speaker 1: thing for like, even even if this process gets started,

304
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,919
Speaker 1: it's about building like fear that it could happen to you.

305
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,160
Speaker 1: It's about you know, this fear that someone's always watching

306
00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,160
Speaker 1: and someone's always wanting to report you. Um, and it's

307
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,800
Speaker 1: the thing that they happened with Texas and abortion. It's

308
00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,720
Speaker 1: like trying to have like the bound hundred idea of

309
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 1: be like parents are trying to find examples of this

310
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,119
Speaker 1: to report it. So then so it's like this like

311
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,240
Speaker 1: proactive kind of surveillance of anything that doesn't fall into

312
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,880
Speaker 1: the Christian supremacist idea of gender and sexuality. It's you know, now,

313
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,480
Speaker 1: of course that's like a specific interpretation of Christianity. I'm

314
00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 1: not not saying all Christianities like that, but it is

315
00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 1: the one of it's them in the South, it's it

316
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,000
Speaker 1: is like one of the bigger strains of that type

317
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,440
Speaker 1: of of that type of kind of religious and politic synthesis.

318
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's see. So courts have generally taken the position

319
00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 1: that libraries should not remove these books from circulation um,

320
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,400
Speaker 1: but sometimes due to pressure via like loss of funding

321
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 1: or depending on how like the how much how much

322
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,240
Speaker 1: like who is in charge of each state's kind of

323
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,159
Speaker 1: education system? A lot of a lot of a lot

324
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 1: of these books have been banned and have have been

325
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,920
Speaker 1: pulled from many school libraries and many public libraries. Even

326
00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,160
Speaker 1: if it doesn't like go all the way to being

327
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,679
Speaker 1: like you know, court mandated all of it, sometimes it

328
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 1: doesn't need doesn't even need to get that far. So yeah,

329
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,120
Speaker 1: because like even if it doesn't get to the court,

330
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 1: librarians kind of librarians have said that just the threat

331
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 1: of having to defend against charges and having to defend

332
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,159
Speaker 1: against like accusations of pedophilia and grooming and all this

333
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,919
Speaker 1: kind of nonsense is enough to get many educators to

334
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,439
Speaker 1: censor themselves by just not talking these books to begin with,

335
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 1: to avoid that whole kind of debacle, because even just

336
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 1: the public spectacle of an accusation can be enough to

337
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 1: like ruin someone's life inside like a small like in

338
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 1: like a small community. Right, it's it's it's is if

339
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 1: you know parents, if you know kids, and this is

340
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,639
Speaker 1: like part of your social group, it's part of like

341
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 1: wherever you're like situated in your community. If this type

342
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 1: of thing starts up, it can really be devastating to

343
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 1: someone's personal life. And of obviously this is very ironic

344
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: because all these same people who are trying to get

345
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 1: get these books banned also crying and scream about like

346
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 1: censorship and cancel culture um, while literally advocating the burning

347
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 1: of comic books um, and even like fucking like advocating

348
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: the burning of know your Rights books. So it's it's like, yes,

349
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 1: they will cry and scream about canceler culture um, but

350
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 1: they will do all of this stuff as well. It's

351
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: not it's not right. There is no ideological consistency. They're

352
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: they're they're they're not they're not trying to that's not

353
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 1: that's that's not part of the point. It's because it's

354
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 1: not even hypocrisy in their own eyes, because all of

355
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 1: this is for the greater good. It's it's about protecting

356
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: the innocence of children. Right. If you'll notice that a

357
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: lot of these bills and efforts try to not explicitly

358
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,439
Speaker 1: attack books for being gay or queer. Instead, they will

359
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: label them as pornographic or obscene um. Obviously, many books

360
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 1: that conservatives will defend have just as graphic depictions of

361
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: intimacy or autonic like or um or anatomy um, but

362
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 1: usually heterosexual in nature, and alongside other kind of values

363
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: that the right wants to push. Um. You know, even

364
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 1: like the fucking Bible is more graphic than the gender

365
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: queer and graphic novel um. But when conservatives say pornography,

366
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: what they just mean that is any display of queerness, right,

367
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: anything outside the mold of the fundamentalist Christian supremacist worldview

368
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: that they're fighting for. Just like when they say banned

369
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: critical race theory, they don't they don't actually mean that.

370
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: What they mean is ban any discussion on racism that

371
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: kind of disrupts white comfort. It's it's it's it's they

372
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: they have their own framework to view this and they

373
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 1: can justify it within their own framework, so you know,

374
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: it's It should not surprise anyone that many of these

375
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: queer book bannings are being organized alongside bands on books

376
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: focusing on race and racism. UM. Matt Cross's sixteen page

377
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: spreadsheet was was was made to accompany House Bill three

378
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: nine seven nine, the so called anti CRT bill, that

379
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: band's teaching of any materials that could mean quote an

380
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other psychological

381
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: distress on account of the individual's race or sex. So

382
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: just banning teaching of things that could make a medical

383
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: person kind of uncomfortable, which is it seems like a

384
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: great way to view education. Uh yeah, let's just skip

385
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: over the parts that are uncomfortable and that I'll make

386
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: a great society. Wow. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm

387
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna quote from a great article by Samantha Rydell in

388
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: them dot Com quote small. Wonder then that much of

389
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: the current of fervor can be traced back to the

390
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: conservative group No Left Turn, founded in to ban books

391
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: about racial inequality from classrooms by Elena fish Being. An

392
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: a line of fish Being believes that Antifa children quote

393
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: quote quote Antiva children are going to assault her kids

394
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: for being white. Um. The organization No Left Turn rocketed

395
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: to prominence in the anti education right wing after fish

396
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: Being was interviewed by Tucker Carlson on Fox News. UM

397
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: a tie, which similarly lifted like minded boat such as

398
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: Moms for Liberty. No Left Turns website directs parents to

399
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: a laundry list of books that they claim are used

400
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: to quote indoctrinate kids into a dangerous ideology. Including a

401
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: robust section on quote comprehensive sexual education. UM here that

402
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: pornography lie is laid bare with over forty books whose

403
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: only kind of through line is that they deal with

404
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: lgbt Q themes. The picture book I Am Jazz, uh,

405
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: Kate Bornstein's My Gender Workbook, and the y A novel

406
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: Two Boys Kissing also included, as Margaret Atwood's The Hand

407
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: The Handmaiden's Tale. UH. No Left Turn discriminately targets all

408
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: these titles because they simply feature queer people having lives or,

409
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: in the case of like Margaret Atwood, having their lives

410
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: be ended. So after all, ideas, ideas like that might

411
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: influence kids to think that they could be different right

412
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: any and for conservative parents, there's no greater horror than

413
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: the thought of not being able to control their children

414
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: or the idea that their kids might not straight. It

415
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: should come as no surprise that the grassroots campaigns quote

416
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: unquote grassroots campaigns like No Left Turn are in reality

417
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: links to influential conservative donors and packs like the Cato

418
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: Institute and the former Federative Society Pardon Cato. Like the

419
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: Cato It's named after Kato Kalin, the guy who lived

420
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: behind o Ja's house. Is that true? No, it's yeah.

421
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: I should have just let that. I should have just

422
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: here's gonna slightly continently expand by like red string like

423
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: my red string board its head by head like yeah,

424
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Cato Institute named after Kato Kalin, the guy

425
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: who o j Surper bro buddy. But it should come

426
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: as no surprise that the grass roots quote unquote grassroots

427
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: campaigns like No Left Turn and Reality link to influential

428
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: conservative donors and packs like the Cato Institute and former

429
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: Federalist Society Vice president Leonard Leo. But then again, lies

430
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: don't matter to the reactionary base that Republicans are hoping

431
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: to rally to the front of this culture war. What

432
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: matters to them is controlling the information that children have

433
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: access to to obsensively keep them safe and innocent, but

434
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: in truth, because they think that if kids don't know

435
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: but lgbt Q identities, they won't form one. It's conversion

436
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: therapy by ignorance end quote. But that that's an idea

437
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to kind of come back through, come back

438
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: to a few times throughout the course of this episode.

439
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: Is the idea of conversion therapy by ignorance, which really

440
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: does kind of I think have introduced a really good

441
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: like mental framework to understand why these things are happening,

442
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: because they think if they can keep kids from learning

443
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: about these things, then they won't become gay or trance.

444
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: It is it's like trying to isolate them so that

445
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: so that their reality tunnel is so small so that

446
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: they won't hopefully will never like break out of it.

447
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: Um Now, obviously, if kids feel if kids start having

448
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: feel things that break that piannel, if they don't know

449
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: that there's an alternative to that, that really kind of

450
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: leads to things like depression and suicide, which is why

451
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: it's so high among among queer kids in that region

452
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: because it's like there's it's like they're fundamentally breaking realities.

453
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: So it's that's hard to cope with. We're I'm just

454
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna do. What's gonna do? Kind of one

455
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: more segment quickly before before we haven't had break it

456
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: is uh. It's it's interesting we have like a lot

457
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: of the parents that have been rallying for this, UH

458
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: have some interesting track records themselves. If we can even

459
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, go back to um UH to the Family

460
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: Research Council, with Josh Dougger having the save the children

461
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: idea well you know himself being a child bleicster or

462
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: help bill like yeah so um. In a secondingly ironic case,

463
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: a Missouri parents named Ryan Utterback was charged in December

464
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: with multiple accounts of child molestation and giving and distributing

465
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: pornogu fee to miners, including a child as young as four. Um.

466
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: Upon his arrest, utter Back was heavily involved in the

467
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: book banning advocacy, including protests against the books All Boys

468
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: Aren't Blue and uh and other sex a books. Um.

469
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: He he said he gave a quote before he got

470
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: arrested and when he was still doing like the book

471
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: banning advocacy quote, only I have the intimate understanding of

472
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: what isn't isn't appropriate for my children, uh, which is

473
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: quite quite the sentence to say on someone who is

474
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: now arrested for a child molestation. So yeah, that's not yeah,

475
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: that's uh that sucks. But yeah, so like it's it's

476
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: the idea that erasing erasing documentation of queer lives and

477
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: making it so that so that people to their kids

478
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: only are exposed to a very kind of isolated worldview

479
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: will make it easier to control um and if they

480
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: don't hear about something, maybe they'll just you know, live

481
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: their life as a regular straight child. And that's that's

482
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: their hope. Now obviously that doesn't that doesn't really happen

483
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: in practice, but that's kind of what they're working towards,

484
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: and that that's why they save the children thing is

485
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: so important to them, because they really do think that

486
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: they can save the kid children, like they do think

487
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: that they can keep keep them from this stuff. So

488
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: I think there's one other reason that they're doing that

489
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: specifically they focus on books too, specifically the pornographic attack,

490
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: which is that these kind of like incredible hard right

491
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: evangelicals are not the entire Republican base, and so that

492
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: there are people who they have to convin like they

493
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: have to fully radicalize into into the extermination of where people,

494
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: specifically the exermination to trans people and the like. The

495
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: easiest way to do that is just by constantly associating

496
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: anything queer with pedophilia and with like specific tifically pedophilia

497
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: and specifically grooming. And you know, these kind of campaigns

498
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: like they have dual effect. They have the effect on

499
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: the one hand of the actual material harm to children,

500
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: and they're you know, like preventing them from having any

501
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: access to anything that shows them that they could be queer.

502
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: And then simultaneously it has this effect of creating this

503
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: association inside of conservatives that allows you to push for

504
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: even more genocidal stuff that without this they might not

505
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: have been able to swallow. Yeah. Well, speaking of genocidal actions,

506
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure that one of our sponsors have contributed to

507
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: at least one attempt to genocide. I mean we we

508
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: are actually entirely sponsored this week by the former Indonesian

509
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: dictator Suharto, So you know, big, big thank you to him.

510
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: Uh Pancasila forever. And yeah, here's the matter. Ah, we're back.

511
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't google what Cukarno did in uh in

512
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: West Popua. Hey, Hey, hey, hey, Sue hard too and

513
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: Sukarno different. Yes, yes, yeah, I am very clear on this,

514
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: and that's why you should not google what Zukarno did

515
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: in in Papua because dear God. But we will put

516
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: his patreon in the description. We will be backing his patreon.

517
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: Look at the show notes for that. Um hi, welcome back.

518
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna segue into other types of legislation now,

519
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: but still kind of focusing on the whole parents rights

520
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: to decide what scientific and medical knowledge children can have

521
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: access to UM in terms of like the conversion therapy

522
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: by ignorance category. So we're gonna talk about they don't

523
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: Say Gay bill. So Florida's House and Senate just passed

524
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: the so called Don't Say Gay Bill that bands mentioned

525
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: of anything other than the strict heteronormativity and the you

526
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: are the gender assigned that birth kind of idea UM.

527
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: For at least most of elementary school, it's banned and

528
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: possibly farther reaching than that UM, with teachers also opening

529
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: themselves up lawsuits if they fail to comply. It's formally

530
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: known as the Parental Rates in Education Bill, and the

531
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: text of the legislation states that quote classroom instruction by

532
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender

533
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: identity may not occur in kindergarten through third grade, or

534
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: in any manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally

535
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: appropriate for students in accordance with state standards. So it

536
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: is it is very intentionally vague for how far reaching

537
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: this can be. For how much they will determine what

538
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: and what isn't appropriate for grades for an up who knows. Uh. Yeah,

539
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: but it's not just it's not just limited to early grades.

540
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Classroom instruction on sexual orientation and general identity could be

541
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: prohibited or at least taken to court at all grade levels, Uh,

542
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: depending on what the parents find unacceptable. Right, it is,

543
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's based on what the parents want to

544
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: want to happen to to to the kids that are

545
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: under their care. So it's it's specifically following kind of

546
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: the framework that yeah, you can you can report something

547
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: if you don't like it. So it's it's it's very

548
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: much pandering to like a reactionary conservative all this stuff

549
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: that conservatives said was a nightmare about, like the Stazi

550
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: in East Germany and the KGB. They're like, but what

551
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: if we just decentralized that, you know, and and let

552
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: anyone who's a bigot report and ruin the lives of

553
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: people around them for a variety of bullshit reasons. It's good. Yeah,

554
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: it's ah. And I mean, just like other states, like

555
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: in Texas, the enforcement of it is not initially done

556
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: by the government but is open to a concern to

557
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: fanatical public, saying that parents may bring action against the

558
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: school district to obtain a declaratory judgment UM, and a

559
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: court may award damages an attorney's fees if it finds

560
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: the school violated the measure. So there's like financial incentives

561
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: for parents for this UM. The bill will come into

562
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: effect on the first of July, with all school districts

563
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: UM required to update their policies by at least June.

564
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: There was there was also a proposed amendment that would

565
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: have required schools and educators to report if they knew

566
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: or suspected a child was lgbt Q to their parents

567
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: within six weeks of learning. That UM, so within six

568
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: weeks of learning, if they're not sis or straight, they

569
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: would have to be reported to the parents. UM. But

570
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: that that part was withdrawn before the bill reached the House.

571
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: But in terms of like this is the type of

572
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: thing that well, this is that like the legislators are

573
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: thinking of. When it became increasingly apparent that the bill

574
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: was going to be passed no matter what, UH, a Democrat,

575
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: Chevin Jones, the first openly gay Florida state senator, tried

576
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: to amend the bill to narrow the language to say

577
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: that in classroom instruction should not be intended to change

578
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: students sexual orientation or gender identity, and specifically not marginalized

579
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: queer people, and instead just limit the bill to itach

580
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: appropriate sex said, and that amendment obviously failed, with Dennis Backley,

581
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: the bill's main sponsor, saying that it would significantly gut

582
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: the bill's intent. So it's it's it's it's specifically to

583
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: suppress knowledge of being queer. That is, that is the

584
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: whole that's the whole point of the bill. Um, you know,

585
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean the the governor claims that the bill addresses

586
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: quote sexual stuff and quote telling kids that they may

587
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: be able to pick genders and all that, uh, saying

588
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: that that has nothing to do like this is nothing

589
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: to do with sex at all, like literally nothing. It's

590
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: like but nothing, it's but they still do it, like

591
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: the pornographic obscene kind of category because like it's right,

592
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: it's the same thing like if you show gay people kissing,

593
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: that is sexual. If you show story people kissing, that

594
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: isn't right. It's it's being queer as innately more obscene.

595
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: It is it is, it is it is so much

596
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: more of an issue. Rana Santas governor also said, like

597
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: how many parents want their kindergarteners to have transjagenderism or

598
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: something injected into their school discussion? Um, but that's so

599
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: that type of stuff he says that like press conferences

600
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: and stuff. So yeah, it is. It is very clear

601
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: that the bill is targeted specifically towards gay people, um,

602
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: and being trans or being queer, being non sis, non straight,

603
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: that whole that that that whole category. Um. The governor's

604
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: press secretary called it the anti grooming bill. Um. You know,

605
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: reviving the type of like you know, whether that LGBT

606
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: attacks have had for years, suggesting that you know, being

607
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: gay means that you are a pedophile or being trans

608
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: means that you're a pedophile. It ties in with this

609
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: thing you'll see in like the far right and the

610
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: libertarian right, where people who have like kill your local

611
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: pedophile bumper stickers and stuff because you can't argue with like, yeah,

612
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: pedophiles are are the worst. That's horrible, But you don't

613
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: actually mean people who molest children. You mean people who

614
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: live in a way that you consider obscene, which are

615
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: equating with pedophilias that you can justify murdering those people

616
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: eventually yep, uh yeah, and when and when when confronted

617
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: with the the actual pedophiles, they literally don't do ship well.

618
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: They are off Like Andy No, for a great example,

619
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: has regularly hung out around a specific I think a

620
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: most lee is his name pedophile. The longest serving Republican

621
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: Speaker of the House was a pedophile and passive scale

622
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: dinn it Dennis Haster d hast that's what that? Um,

623
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: that's what that? What's that German band? This would have

624
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: been a decent joke if I remember their name right

625
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: away Romstein. Yeah, well I sucked it up, okay, so anyway,

626
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: please please continue. So yeah, but like they don't say

627
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: gay bill tries even less than some of the like

628
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: school book bands to hide behind the defense of prohibiting pornography.

629
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: Like it just says the quiet part out loud, you know,

630
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: saying that this bill is grounded in the belief the

631
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: loud part out loud. Yeah, yeah, I like the bills

632
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: just grounded in the belief that LGBTQ people simply by

633
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 1: exist thing are a threat to like children and must

634
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: be completely arrased. Like that's that's the whole that's the whole. Idea.

635
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: Following several hours of debate ahead of the vote in

636
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: the Senate, a bill sponsor Atlanta Garcia claimed that quote,

637
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: gay is not a permanent thing, and l g b

638
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: t Q is not a permanent thing. So yeah, it's

639
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: the type of like commercial therapy by ignorance thing. A

640
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: lot of these people have advocated for conversion therapy to

641
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: be legalized in the past or re legalized in the past.

642
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, they just they just don't want gay people

643
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: to be around because they find the nikki. So it's

644
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: it's not it's not just Florida though, right the fears

645
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: with like hyper focusing on you know, just justin, justin,

646
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: don't say gay bill in Florida kind of like, you know,

647
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: it ignores a lot of the other stuff that's happening

648
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: across the entire country if you do when you're just

649
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: focusing on state because they are like fifteen similar bills

650
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: moving through state legislators that are strict how textbooks and

651
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: curriculums are allowed to teach lgbt Q topics and and

652
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: like who can be hired as teachers and what are

653
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: what are like what's allowed to be said when it

654
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: comes to genderal identity and sexual orientation. All like stuff

655
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: is happening all across the country. UM. A house bill

656
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: in Tennessee would ban textbook and instructural materials that promote

657
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: normalized support or address lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender lifestyles

658
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: quote unquote um in in in k three twelve schools.

659
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: So also also high school um in in UH. In Kansas,

660
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: there's a bill that seeks to amend the state's obsidity

661
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: laws to make using classroom materials depicting homosexuality a class

662
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: B misdemeanor. UH Legislators in Indiana are working to bar

663
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: educators from discussing any content about sexual orientation, quote, transgenderism,

664
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: or general identity without permission from parents. In Oklahoma, there's

665
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: a senate bill that would ban public schools from employing

666
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: anyone who quote promotes positions in the classroom or any

667
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: or any function of the public school that is the

668
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: opposition to the closely held religious beliefs of students. So

669
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: that's that's interesting framing there. Yeah, and again we need

670
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: to be very clear about this when like, when these

671
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: people say deeply have religious beliefs, they mean fundamentalist Christianity.

672
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: They're there, these people are very specifically attempting to turn

673
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: the state into a Christian at those state, and this

674
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: is the ship that they used to do it. And

675
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's it's it's grim. We can look at

676
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: like a recent report from the Trevor Project UM which

677
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: is an lgbt Q suicide prevention and crisis internation group,

678
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: and they did a recent report finding that l g

679
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: B t Q youth who learn about l g b

680
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: t Q people or l g b t Q issues

681
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: in the school have a tecent lower odds of reporting

682
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: a suicide attempt in the past year. So just that,

683
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: like the knowledge that there is an alternative is like

684
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: is life changing for people, right, the ability to to

685
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: read eyes that there are other reality tunnels is can

686
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: save people's lives, like it is Yeah, I mean I

687
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: like I I watched this happen like my my public school,

688
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: Like I was in a public school, but I was

689
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: in public school in a really conservative area. The only

690
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: time anyone even mentioned being gay was screaming about gay marriage.

691
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: And like we fucking saw some ship, Like a lot

692
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: of extremely bad things happened to the queer kids. They're

693
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: including me, like it yeah, like this this This stuff

694
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: kills people. It stilf hurts people. It is I think

695
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: that's that people in like more blue states don't quite understand,

696
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: is how how absolute this type of thing is, like

697
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: living in these communities, How how narrow your version of

698
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: reality is, Like how how everything you're exposed to is

699
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: so hyper focused that even knowledge of an alternative can

700
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: be so mind blowing that it really is important to

701
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: have at least this to be knowledgeable, because yeah, a

702
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: lot of people who you know, a lot of people

703
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: may not have access to the Internet in the same way.

704
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of these groups, especially like especially

705
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: Christian groups specifically have like like you know, services that

706
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: you can buy to like suppress websites on your WiFi.

707
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: Writers is that only you're only available to access like

708
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: certain websites like like like, it is a whole effort

709
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: to restrict the reality that kids are exposed to two

710
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: kind of railroad them into this hyper specific, kind of

711
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: heteroonormative idea of existence. So yeah, any type of thing

712
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: that breaks these kids out of out of these reality

713
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: tunnels can can be life changing, which is why they're

714
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: trying to ban all these books of libraries because yeah,

715
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: even if you even if you block websites, even if

716
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: you were strict internet access, even if you were strict

717
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: what can be taught in schools? You know, there's the

718
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: fear of what if a kid goes to a library

719
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: and finds a book about being gay? Then oh wow,

720
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: that could that would you know, undo all of the

721
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: effort that undo the thousands of dollars we spend on

722
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: blocking internet access to two websites. So like, that's why

723
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: they're talking about like libraries and stuff is because yeah,

724
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: if they find out about this stuff anywhere, then they

725
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna be in trouble. Like that's that's it's the whole

726
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: point of like isolating people, isolating what they view as possible. So, yeah,

727
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: we're not gonna talking about some Uh, we're gonna we're

728
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna talk money, money, money, money. Uh. The

729
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: other thing that they don't say. Gay Bill has highlighted

730
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: is the extent to which big businesses and corporate America

731
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: is financially funding many of these recent efforts to hack

732
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: away queer rights. Uh. This has kind of been like

733
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: a back and forth thing, though, especially if you look

734
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: back in the past few years under the Trump era.

735
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: Let's take the North Carolina Bathroom Bill for example, arguably

736
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: the opening act for the current onslaught of socially conservative

737
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: legislation targeting and trans people. Remember this was like right

738
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: after the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage. So this

739
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: is when the needle starts to shift towards trans people.

740
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: This is the bill that said that you have to

741
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: use the bathroom assigned at matching the gender you were

742
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: assigned at burg on your certificate. All types of stuff, um,

743
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: putting again unspoken bigotry, us oaken stuff. You know, you

744
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: could be you know, arrested or harassed for doing this previously.

745
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: But it's like putting this type of idea into concrete law. Right,

746
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: this is once once progress starts, there's this like back

747
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: pedaling so that they you know, they put they put that,

748
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: they put what was once like unspoken bigotry and just

749
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: like obvious bigotry into actual written law. Um, it's like

750
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: make making it concrete. So during the bathroom bill kind

751
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: of whole thing in North Carolina, um, we saw corporations

752
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: trying to stay conscious of culture shifts, attempting to stay

753
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: on the sympathetic side of the rising generations. Who would

754
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, become their future employees and customers, trying to

755
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: appeal to them and keeping that in mind. So in

756
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: the aftermath of the passage of the bathroom Bill, multiple

757
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: companies like PayPal, Adidas, Doutche, Bank Um all rescinded plans

758
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: to invest in the state wild to Like, I mean,

759
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: if there's if there's evil going on, Deutsche Bank is

760
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: providing money to make it. Yeah, it's it's it's it's stunning,

761
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: Like how bad you have to be that Deutsche Bank

762
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: is Like no, I like like every every person who's

763
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: like Russia yet like like Deutsa Bank like before, like

764
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: I knew someone who worked there who two of his

765
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: coworkers like started like doing audits of their accounts and

766
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: both of them wound up dead in their hotel rooms.

767
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Non extradition countries. Yeah that scans yeah, like even okay,

768
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, Deutsche Bank initially said they weren't gonna pull

769
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: out of Russia, but like two days ago, as we

770
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: record this started pulling out. But they pulled out in

771
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 1: North Carolina. They pulled North Carolina. Jesus Christ, big, big, big.

772
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: You know. There's a degree to which is probably just

773
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: like that raytheon Energy where it's like Raytheon, We're great

774
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: with trans people. Exact, you're making missiles, then you're fine. Exactly. Yeah,

775
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean big musical artists like Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam

776
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: and a former former R E M member Ringo star

777
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: kesled concerts there. Did you call Ringo star a member

778
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: of R E M. Garrison the the n C double

779
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: A announced it was that was championship durn Okay, okay, okay.

780
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: If you'd lived through the nineties, you would never make

781
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: fun of Michael Stipe again. At the National Basketball Association

782
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: pulled its All Star game from Charlotte. Almost seventy companies,

783
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: Joy did a lawsuit against the bill. UM and you know,

784
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: money talks. The pressure worked. The state repealed the law

785
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: in twenty's seventeen UH the same year I brought a

786
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: coalition of business leaders in Texas blocked a similar bill

787
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: pushed by these Tonchley conservative then Republican Lieutenant Governor Dan

788
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: Patrick UM And we've seen the same type of thing

789
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: happened in Georgia the past few years, UM with with

790
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: actions like Corporate Boycott's many large employeers pushing back on

791
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: the succession of socially conservative bills, including like racist voting restrictions,

792
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: six week abortion bands, and quote religious freedom bills that

793
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: would give businesses protection to refuse customers or higher employees

794
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: that are queer. UM. Prominent in that resistance was a Disney,

795
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: which cast a long shadow over Georgia's economy via its

796
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: filming of Marvel movies inside Atlanta. Yeah so yeah. Across

797
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: many states, big corporate brands were quick to condemn obviously

798
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: bigoted political moves. UM. Prominent Tennessee employeers like Nissan, del Amazon,

799
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: and Vandorbilt University sent a since sent a letter last

800
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: year opposing a suite of bills targeting LGBTQ rights, and

801
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: a similarly, a group of Texas businesses business leaders declared

802
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: opposition to Governor Greg Abbotts recent directive to investigate parents

803
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: and others who provide transition treatment for for transgender youth.

804
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: But after Trump got out of office, and particularly during

805
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: this recent round of a tax on queer rights, companies

806
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: have not really been backing up their words with any

807
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: equivalent actions. After Tennessee last year past all the bills

808
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: that targeted lgbt Q rights, including measures restricting classroom discussion,

809
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: um barring trans girls from any high school sports and

810
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: it's and its own version of like the bathroom bill,

811
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: it faced nothing like the North Carolina boycotts. There was,

812
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: there was, There was just nothing because this is when

813
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: Biden was president. Now, um so, whether it be the

814
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: anti c r T stuff, voting restrictions, or stepping away

815
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: lgbt Q rights the past year under Joe Biden, companies

816
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: are not really bothered to push back on these socially

817
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: conservative bills were taking many states. It's it's they don't

818
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: it's it's easier to push back. But it's easier to

819
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: push back on something when you know when you have

820
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: a big bad in office. I guess, uh well, and

821
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: I think also it's it's the companies can see which

822
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: way the wind is blowing, right, Yeah, Like it's a

823
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: sa standing with grifters when you when you when you

824
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: watch people like when you watch stream races, like suddenly

825
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: start to flip the political positions. When you when you

826
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: watch the love the live streamers in particularly do this.

827
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: When you watch them starting to flip that that's how

828
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: you can tell which way the wind is blowing. And

829
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: this is really fucking scary because you know the way

830
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: the wind is blowing right now that that these corporations

831
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: are are are you know, drifting towards is just you know,

832
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: refusing to oppose is just this exterminationism. Yeah, I mean

833
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: so thankfully Disney got you know, shouted to like we're

834
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: going to talk about so creators of the movie Song

835
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: of the South. UM. Was notable that in their refusal

836
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: to criticize the bill as it moved through the legislator

837
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: under um the kind of recent stuff inside Florida specifically so,

838
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: but this was part of an overall pattern, like the

839
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: corporate response was was much more muted to they go

840
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: to they don't say gay bill um in Florida compared

841
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: to other stuff across across the country even UM and

842
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: it shouldn't really surprise any uh many of the Republican

843
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: backers of the bill in Florida are actually bankrolled by

844
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: the varou same businesses that have done performative virtue signally

845
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: boycott's and protests under the TROUMP era. UH. Disney and

846
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: Disney World in Orlando is one of the state's biggest

847
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: employers and an enormous economic force inside Florida. And when

848
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: disney silence was met with pushback, Bob Chapeck, the CEO,

849
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: try to kind of do damage control at first, like

850
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: internally within the company and then for outside press. UM

851
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: last Monday, I think, which was the seventh UM in

852
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: a in a In a memo to Disney staff, Chapec

853
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: argued that the company can do more to promote tolerance

854
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: quote through the inspiring content we produce and the welcoming

855
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: culture we create and the diverse community of organizations we support. UM,

856
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: which is funny if you know anything about the history

857
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: of Disney, also saying that the messages in their movies

858
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: are more powerful than any law being effort, which is

859
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: uh yeah, which is also you know, great coming from

860
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: the company most famous for queer coding almost all of

861
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: their filings. Uh so sure, sure, bob Um. Two days later, UM,

862
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: at a shareholder meeting, was a little more open and

863
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: told told shareholders that the company had privately opposed to

864
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: the bill. UM, and we'll trying to explain why the

865
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: silence in the recent legislative efforts to attack lgbt P

866
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: LGBTQ people. He said that we chose not to take

867
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: a public position on the bill because we felt like

868
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: we could be more effective working behind the scenes. Engaging

869
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: directly with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. But

870
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: it uh, it later came out that Speck had only

871
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: reached out to Florida Governor Randa Centers just that morning

872
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: after the bill had already had already passed. Yeah, we

873
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: we need that cat from Saga that just yells lies. Yes,

874
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: lying cats my favorite. UM definitely appreciate lying cat lying. Uh. Yeah.

875
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: So of course none of this satisfied anybody, UM, and

876
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: there's been increasing pushback from both within the Disney Company

877
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: and outside UM. Pixar sent a letter to JPEC criticizing

878
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: his wishy washy stance on the on the on the

879
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: don't say gay bill, and even goes on even goes

880
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: on to goes on to criticize the corporation for capitalizing

881
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: on pride through like a through rainbow mickey merchandizing and stuff, uh, saying, quote,

882
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: it feels terrible to be part of a company that

883
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: makes money from pride merch when it when it chooses

884
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: to step back in times of our greatest need and

885
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: when our rights are at risk, says the Pixar letter.

886
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, after after aw if you did after the

887
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: shareholder meeting, Jpeck said third times the charm and tried

888
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: again to save face, announcing the company would immediately be

889
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: and supporting efforts to combat similar legislation in other states,

890
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: and would pause all political donations in the state pending

891
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: a review of the company's political giving. UM conceding that

892
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: the company failed to be a stronger ally in the

893
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: fight for equal rights, and all that is well and

894
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: good if you ignore the fact that in the past

895
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: two years alone, Disney has given three thousand dollars to

896
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: politicians in Florida who voted for the Don't Say Gay Bill.

897
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: UM Disney Entities donated at least four thousand dollars in

898
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: the re election campaigns for the bill's chief sponsors, state

899
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: Representative Joe Harding and state Sponsor Dennis Baxley. UM and

900
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: Disney Entities also donated fifty dollars to political action committee

901
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: tied to the governor, Rhonda Santa's one so just last year.

902
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a that's a lot of money. Yeah,

903
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: And I think I think it's worth like noting for

904
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: people who like are somewhat younger, which is that like

905
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: there's a whole thing where corporations pretend that they like

906
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: queer people now and this is the thing that has

907
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: existed for maybe a decade, and the other several hundred

908
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: years of capitalism are them like ruthless lee crushing queer

909
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: people of all kinds. So yeah, this is this is

910
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: their normal state. Queer capitalism is like not a thing.

911
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: It's a It's a thing that exists solely to sell

912
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: you sweatshirts. It's not a thing. Get that rainbow Mickey merchandise. Yeah,

913
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: they want they are actively okay with funding people who

914
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: want to kill you. So so as as I as

915
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: I was writing this, UM last week tonight the show

916
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Oliver came out with a small piece that

917
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: was covering similar ground, uh to to my writing. That

918
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: also included some nice, nice, nice background on Disney sponsored

919
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: politician and lead sponsor. If they don't say gay bill

920
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: that Dennis Baxley. Um, so yeah, apparently Baxley has said

921
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: that quote abortion is causing Europeans to be replaced by

922
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: immigrant Disney's going back from its Nazi roots. Nice little

923
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: white replacement lie. Um. He worked on bills to repeal

924
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: protections for queer workers and worked to relegalize gay conversion therapy.

925
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: UM and at some kind of fundraising event he said

926
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: that quote. I know some districts where there's a big

927
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: infestation of homosexuals that were pushing their agenda under the

928
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: screen and then trying to get more people hired like

929
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: them instead up gay adoptions and all this stuff. It's

930
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: a continual fight for the values that we hold dear boy,

931
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: brought to you, brought to you by Disney and yeah,

932
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: take ticket infestation. Yeah, it's a yeah, take take take

933
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: none of the use of the infestation there. Um, that

934
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: kind of ties into my whole, my whole like a viewing,

935
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: you know, queerness as a contagion kind of idea well,

936
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: which I mean viewing the enemy is a contagion is

937
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: also older than just viewing queer people as a contagion,

938
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: because it's exactly how Hitler talked about the Jews, and

939
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, it goes we can look at like some

940
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: of the things the Turks would say about Armenians. It's

941
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: this idea of you know, you there's no there's no

942
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: middle ground with a virus, and if you turn people

943
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: into a virus, then you don't have to consider a

944
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: middle ground. Um. So before we go and break I'm

945
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna do one more. I'm gonna do A

946
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: quote from an article in The Atlantic UM titled want

947
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: to understand the Red State onslaught Look at Florida. Um,

948
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a deccent article kind of

949
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: going through the financial stuff that Disney has kind of backed. Um.

950
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, quote. Why have so many companies backed away

951
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: from these fights? The fights against the legislation? Some corporate

952
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: lobbyists I spoke with said that one reason is that

953
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: they believe the public opposition is counterproductive because more Republican

954
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: elected officials in the Donald Trump era find it politically

955
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: valuable to be seen as fighting big companies. Businesses also

956
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: frequently complained that the widening gulf between the parties leaves

957
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: them in a lose lose position of alienating an important

958
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: block of potential customers wherever they come down on policy debates.

959
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: UM activists will point out that business is often try

960
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: to have both ways by rhetorically identifying with causes such

961
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: as inclusion and diversity without taking any tangible steps to

962
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: defend them. Another factor probably looms larger than any of

963
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: these considerations, however much they want to publicly align with

964
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: the values of younger customers and consumers and workers. Big

965
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: companies want to only want to go only so far

966
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: and fighting these proposals because they still mostly prefer Republicans

967
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 1: and control of state governments to deliver the low tax

968
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: like regulation policies that they favor. State Republicans have, in turn,

969
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: have grown more overt about threatening those beliefs when business

970
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: leaders raise objections to the cultural war components of their agenda.

971
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: When American Airlines criticize the restrictive voting bill in Texas

972
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: past last year, Lieutenant Governor Patrick openly threatened to kill

973
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: other legislation the company had cared about. So yeah, like, obviously,

974
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: companies want Republicans to be in charge because it will

975
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: make it easier to run their big giant corporate businesses

976
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: that basically are as powerful a lot of a lot

977
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: of other like government entities. Uh so, yeah, they're gonna

978
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: spend supporting Rhonda Santis. They're gonna spend dollars in the

979
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: past the past two years supporting all these Republican candidates

980
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: that voted for for they don't say, gay bill, because

981
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: that makes them more profit in the long run. And

982
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: that's you know, if you're if you're running a business.

983
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: That's what they want. So yep, that is uh, I'm

984
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: gonna we're We're gonna take another ad break and then

985
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: we will we will come back to talk about Texas

986
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: and and and bathroom bills and healthcare and all of

987
00:57:54,080 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: the other kind of stuff that's happened in recent weeks. Yeah, hello,

988
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: we are back. Sorry, I was, I was taking some

989
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: time to listen to my favorite Ringo Star RM album

990
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: in the break in between reading books by It's a

991
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: really good combo of the media. How how dare you

992
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: not the not properly appreciating Michael Stipe, the voice of

993
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: several generations, Michael Stiper Michael Stipe, Yeah, so he was.

994
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I I really like the Black Keys.

995
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: So anyway, um, I'm gonna make more bad music jokes

996
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: or I could continue my script. Yeah, please continue. We

997
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: don't have to talk about all of the wonderful contributions

998
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: your generation is made to music like uh like you

999
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: two with hit Like You two, Fame Zoomer Bands, you

1000
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: two with hit Man. George Harrison, m Yep, you gonna

1001
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: make a lot of people happy, Garrison, a lot of

1002
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: people real happy. At least everyone states have introduced bills

1003
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: that would ban trans athletes from competing in sports that

1004
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: correspond to their gender identities UM. Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee have

1005
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: already signed such bills into law. At the start of

1006
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: this year, new restructions were put into place for for

1007
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: in in Texas to also restrict UM what K through

1008
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: twelve school sports people can be on now, making them

1009
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: specifically match they're sex listed on their birth certificate at

1010
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: a your time of birth UM and even when the

1011
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: states who don't just have blanket bands. There's other horrifying

1012
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: things happening, like in the beginning of last February, it

1013
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: came out that the Utah Republicans are making UH have

1014
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: proposed a commission to analyze the bodies of trans kids

1015
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: that would determine student athletes eligibility on a case by

1016
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: case basis, with having the authority to establish a explain

1017
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: range for fiscal characteristics affected by puberty, banning schools school

1018
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: school athletes who do not fall within these established limits

1019
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: from participating in generate sports UM. Also a non fun

1020
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: fun side side but about the bill is that in

1021
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: their efforts to analyze the bodies of trans kids, the

1022
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: bill would also remember the commission immune from any lawsuit

1023
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: with respect to all acts done and actions taken in

1024
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: good faith and carrying out their purposes. Um. Yeah, And

1025
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: this is this is something that I think is really

1026
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: common specifically with transphobia, which is that like all of

1027
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: the rhetoric about transphobia is about sort of like like

1028
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: a huge amount of it's about molestation. Here's about amount

1029
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: amount of it's about pedophilia, and then a specifically with

1030
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: the most station part, it's like yeah, okay, so we're

1031
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna have this council, right, we're gonna have we're gonna

1032
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: have this commission that these people are gonna they're they're

1033
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: going to just like they're going to molest these kids, right.

1034
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: But like this this is just something that happened to

1035
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: the transpeople constant, like the t s A like constantly.

1036
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: It's just an enormal engine for just like like socially

1037
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: abusing every single trans person who goes who goes into

1038
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: an airport, Like I've definitely had not fun experiences at

1039
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: the airport the past few times. Like this is this

1040
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: is the thing is It's like it's it's they they

1041
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: impose as a sanction on trans people, the things that

1042
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: they claim trans people are doing yes, and it's it is.

1043
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: And it's also interesting you'll find how many of these

1044
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: kind of bill sponsors politicians, um, eventually have it come

1045
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: out that like they watch a lot of like trans

1046
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: pornography and stuff. It's like it's it's all it's all fake,

1047
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: like all like everything, like everything they say they don't

1048
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: actually mean. It's all about the culture war. It's all

1049
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: about all the fucking like save the children's stuff. It's

1050
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: all in opposite that they can get elected into politics. Right. Well,

1051
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this with like that with like the

1052
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: with the Texas thing, how all of the big New

1053
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: Texas stuff happened like days before the primary election because

1054
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: they were being challenged by by by other politicians that

1055
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: were farther to the right of them. So it's all

1056
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: like a political ploy. But the problem is is that

1057
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: at certain points, because of how long the culture war

1058
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: kind of idea has been going, there's people who you know,

1059
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: sincerely bought into the idea of the of the cultural

1060
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: war now themselves running for office. Um. So like it

1061
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: is like they do actually genuinely believe the things now

1062
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: it is it is like it is like a full

1063
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: circle thing of things that were just you know, just

1064
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: to get votes initially, like things that weren't really believe sincerely,

1065
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: just just to hold votes. But now people who were

1066
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: brought up in that whole political idea are starting to

1067
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: run for office who do actually believe those in those

1068
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: things that sincerely So now it's it's leading, its leading

1069
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 1: to a whole new kind of onslade of rights because

1070
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: these people have just escalated and accelerated the whole culture

1071
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: war idea. Yeah. Well, and and the other thing is

1072
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: like they've linked up with people who, like people whose

1073
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: politics at the church or people whose politics have specifically

1074
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: been about eliminating trans people for like half a century.

1075
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: Right Like there there's there's the linkages that are being

1076
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: formed between people who have sort of like you know,

1077
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: between these militantly anti trans organizations in between sort of

1078
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: these people who buy into this, like either who are

1079
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: very who who are cynically deploying the sort of the

1080
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: sort of Christian supremacist rhetoric, or the people who are

1081
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: just actual like Christian fascists. Right like, these people like

1082
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: these people are goying together to the point where it

1083
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't really matter why they're doing it, Okay,

1084
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: at certain points, like the reason why specifically they're doing

1085
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,479
Speaker 1: it becomes immaterial and you're just sort of left with

1086
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: the things that they are doing. Yeah, it's I mean,

1087
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: and there's just been so much of it the past

1088
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: the past year, specifically like over like overall, more than

1089
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: one hundred bills designed to restrict the rights of transgender

1090
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: of transgender people have been introduced in at least thirty

1091
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: three states. It justin just one, which is like, it's

1092
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: become a record breaking here for any kind of anti

1093
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: trans legislation. It's just it is accelerated to such a

1094
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: extreme degree. UM and now continuing in two legislative cycle UM.

1095
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: Last spring in in in in Arkansas, the state legislator

1096
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: banned gender of her main care for minors UM, including

1097
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, puberty blockers HRT, all the stuff you know

1098
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: UM and the House Bill one five seven oh prevents

1099
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: transpeople from receiving hormotherapy, puberty blockers, similar treatments UM. It

1100
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: was called the Save Adolescence from Experimentation Act UM, you know,

1101
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: referring to medical treatment as experimentation UM. And shortly after

1102
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: the bill was signed into law, UM, the doctors who

1103
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: run the largest or who ran the largest provider of

1104
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: of hormone therapy, and the state reported an increase in

1105
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: suicide attempts in their patients during like just that same month. UM.

1106
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: It was it was the first of its kind of

1107
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: bill sign into law, and it was it was initially

1108
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: vetoed by the governor, but then that veto was overturned

1109
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: by the state legislator. So and that kind of similar

1110
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: laws have been have been happening in states ever since then.

1111
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: We're not going to talk about Texas, UM, because that's

1112
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: one of the one of the biggest, one of the

1113
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: biggest kind of things in this whole fight is the

1114
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: stuff around Texas. So, Texas officials have begun investigating parents

1115
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: of transgender adolescence for a possible child abuse, according to

1116
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: a lawsuit filed on a few a few weeks ago,

1117
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: after Governor Greg Abbott directed uh the the Child Protective

1118
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: Services Agency in Texas, to handle certain medical treatments, including

1119
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: puberty blockers and h RT as possible crimes. The directive

1120
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: from Governor Abbott was following a non binding opinion by

1121
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton UM saying that parents who

1122
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: provide their transgender to natures with doctor prescribed a care

1123
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: could be investigated for a child abuse. So the moves

1124
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: by both Abbott and Paxixton try to Republican UH incumbents

1125
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: came just days before the primary election UM in which

1126
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: each of them faced significant challenges from farther right opponents. UM.

1127
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: So they've both they've faced criticism from not being staunch

1128
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: staunchly anti trans enough in the past, like in the

1129
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: months prior to this, and they did this to hopefully,

1130
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, gain support from the more radical, UH, more

1131
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: radical voters in Texas. That's like, that is that is

1132
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: undoubtedly a big, a big, big part of why this

1133
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: happened at the time that it did. They did the

1134
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: same thing both Paxiston, well, let's Paxton, but Abbott did

1135
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: basically the same thing with like masks in the last

1136
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: year two where it's like, yeah, you know, I mean

1137
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: it's it's great because the people are just they will

1138
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: literally kill thousands of people or just hold onto their

1139
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: power and it's among to be. The first people investigated

1140
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: for child abuse was actually an employee by the States

1141
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: Protective Services Agency who had a sixteen year old transgender child.

1142
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: On March one, the a c l U of Texas

1143
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: and Lambda Lambda Legal great great name went to state

1144
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: court in Austin to try to stop this inquiry into

1145
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: this family. Who again, who who worked for? Who? Worked

1146
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: for the Child Protective Services Agency UM. The employee, who

1147
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: was not named in the court filing, works on reviews

1148
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: of reports of abuse and neglect. She was paced on

1149
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: administrative leave a few weeks ago. According to the filing,

1150
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: the friday after Governor Abbott made the initial kind of

1151
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: letter UM, she was visited by an investigator from the

1152
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: agency UM, who was also seeking medical records related to

1153
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: her child. UH. The family of the child, identified in

1154
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: court documents only as Mary Doe has as as refused

1155
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: to voluntarily at turnable records and as taking the case

1156
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: to court. According to the lawsuit, the state investigator told

1157
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: parents that the only allegation against them was that their

1158
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: transgender daughter may have been provided with gender affirming healthcare

1159
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: and was currently transitioning. And that was that was the claims,

1160
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: that was the that was the basis for the claims

1161
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: of of of of of child abuse. It's a so like. Initially,

1162
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: it wasn't clear if Abbot's order would survive kind of

1163
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: judicial scrutinty because the order does not any The order

1164
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: doesn't change any Texas law. Um, it's just it's just

1165
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: an opinion piece. And several county attorneys and district attorneys

1166
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: of Dallas and Houston have publicly condemned Abbots and Pakiston's

1167
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: directives UM, clarifying that they would not prosecute families for

1168
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: child abuse under the new definition, and they would not

1169
01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: irrationally um and unjusfiably interfere with medical decisions. The mayor

1170
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: of Austin announced that Austin should be considered a safe place,

1171
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: a sanctuary for transgender children and their families, and they

1172
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: would not be enforcing the governor's mandate. So it's quite

1173
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: a time to be alive to have sanctuary cities for

1174
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: being trans YEA. And of course all of these things,

1175
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: whether it be from like the d A S or

1176
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: the mayor, that doesn't stop trying to protective services from

1177
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: not investigating you like that, doesn't like that doesn't like

1178
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: They can still investigate and harass you. They can still

1179
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: send agents to your door. They can still try to

1180
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: see his medical records, right, They can still investigate claims

1181
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: even if even if the DA won't prosecute. There's still

1182
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: that massive like looming threat of and like that like

1183
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: terror like holding over you know, people's heads. Um, you know,

1184
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it is like a mass it's

1185
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: a massive scare tactic, right, it is. It is too

1186
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: terrorize people like they will be too scared to transition

1187
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: because they don't want their family to get in trouble.

1188
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty grim. It's pretty. It's pretty. It's pretty evil.

1189
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: Um so on the for the for the a c

1190
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: l U and the Lambda Legal Court failing. Uh, they

1191
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 1: they're they're seeking to block the request for medical records

1192
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 1: from the employees case and more broadly kind of challenged

1193
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: the legitimacy of the entire investigation and the power that

1194
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: the government has to change this definition of child abuse.

1195
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: It's a because it's it's it's it's it's also important

1196
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 1: important to mention that the mandatory as the mandatory reporting

1197
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: aspect of the bill, which was well not not bill

1198
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,520
Speaker 1: of the of the legal opinion that was really emphasized

1199
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: in Governor Abbot's directive. Um Abbott described his letter that

1200
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: the order would mean that all licensed professionals who have

1201
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: direct contact with children, including doctors, nurses, therapists, and even

1202
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,440
Speaker 1: school teachers would be required to report to state authorities

1203
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: um if if if they believe that there is a

1204
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: minor who's trans or could be receiving any kind of

1205
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: gender affirming treatment. Um and if they don't report this,

1206
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: they could themselves faced criminal penalties. So the whole, the

1207
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: whole mandatory warning aspects in other like insanely insanely bad

1208
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: thing that we could talk about it for a long time.

1209
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: This episode is getting long enough, so we're just gonna

1210
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: continue through and we can we can ponder at how

1211
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: at how bad that is. Um. One parent of a

1212
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: transgender a teenager in Houston to the family's health clinic,

1213
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: Legacy Community Health has suspended all refills and new prescriptions

1214
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: for a transgender youth in light of Abbot's new order.

1215
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: So it's it's happening, Like, yeah, it's there, it's the

1216
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 1: stuff has happened, the stuff has started. It's it's already

1217
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: scaring people into not doing stuff like it's it's that

1218
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: is what it was designed to do. Yeah, and and

1219
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: I and I know we keep making this episode longer,

1220
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: but like it is worth mentioning that, like it actually

1221
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: like having someone even temporarily like being off of the

1222
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: hormones that they've been taking for for HRT, like that

1223
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: fucking sucks. Yeah, it's like it has really bad negative effects.

1224
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, like people will be surprised how fast

1225
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 1: hormones start working and how fast going off of them

1226
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: they stop working. Like it is it is, It is

1227
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: pretty it is pretty surprising. And like I didn't want

1228
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: to get tons into like the science of being trans

1229
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: in this because that's because that's not the focus of

1230
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: this week. We're talking with the legislation and the onslaught

1231
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: of queer rights of people trying to hurt them. But

1232
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: like you know, it's it's obvious that like there is

1233
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: not many cases at all where there's being you know,

1234
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: like genital surgery done on minors. Like if that does

1235
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: that does not happen. It can happen for like medical

1236
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: like that can happen for medically necessary reasons, like if

1237
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: there's like accidents and stuff, But that doesn't happen for

1238
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: gender affirming care. What happens is you get on you

1239
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: you you go on puberty blockers, which are already prescribed

1240
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: to assist gender kids all the time. Um, if they

1241
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: have early on puberty, they have no lasting side effects,

1242
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: they're completely safe. Um And in some cases, depending on

1243
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: the kids therapists and their doctors, they may be prescribed

1244
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: HRT or they will be prescribed that a bit later.

1245
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: But that is that even still, that is that is

1246
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: the only things that happened. Um, And what they're trying

1247
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: to suppress is both but both of those things. But

1248
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: also like the ability for like therapists to even talk

1249
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: about gender with kids, Like kids are having problems with

1250
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: with like with gender dysphoria, they don't feel comfortable to

1251
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: even have to not even be able to talk to

1252
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: that to talk talking about those feelings with therapists is

1253
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: like part is part of the goal because that can

1254
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: be considered gender affirming care. Um. I think that there's

1255
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: one other thing we really should mention, which is that

1256
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: so there there is one kind like one that is

1257
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: the few, but that there's there there's a very important

1258
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: kind of like quote unquote like gender surgery that is

1259
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: done on children, which is the stuff that's one to

1260
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: intersect kids, Yes, I mean sex kids. Yeah. Also like

1261
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: circumcisions are already like yeah, but I mean with with

1262
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: specific with intersext kids. This stuff matters because all of

1263
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: these bills that you're talking about, where's like, oh, you

1264
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: can't have gender affirming surgery. You can't have like surgery

1265
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: and kids. Like every single one of these bills like that,

1266
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: they all have They all specifically have card carve outs

1267
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: to allow doctors to funk up the generals of inter

1268
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: sex kids. Yeah. That's it's it's all carved out there.

1269
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, well let's see. We we are. We are

1270
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: near the last we are. We're near near, near the

1271
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: last little stretch here. Um. On March eleventh, a Texas

1272
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: State court halted the new Department of Family Protective Services

1273
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 1: policy of investigating the parents of transgender children. UM District

1274
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: District Judge Amy Mention concluded on concluded the hearing on

1275
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: the requested statewide injunction by saying, quote, the Governor's directive

1276
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: was given the effect of new law or new agency

1277
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: rule despite there being no new legislation, regulation, or even

1278
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: agency policy. Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Department of Family

1279
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: Protective Services Commissioner Baby Masters of their actions violate the

1280
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: separation of powers by impermissibly approaching into the legislative domain.

1281
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: UM Judge Mentiontion also granted a temporary restraining order blocking

1282
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: the state from investigating the family that that that prompted

1283
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: this lawsuit happening from the from the person who already

1284
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: worked at the Department of a Family Protective Services UM.

1285
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: Texas Attorney General Kent Pactonum appealed this decision. Well, first

1286
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: of all, he appealed the restraining order and lost that appeal. UM.

1287
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: And and the the s o U is trying to

1288
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: make this temporaries training order against the state permanent and

1289
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: extend to all parents of all transgender kids in Texas.

1290
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: And there's there's gonna be a whole trial scheduled for

1291
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: this topic on July eleven, two. So this is gonna

1292
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna get this is gonna happen, like where

1293
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: where we will figure out what is gonna happen with

1294
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: this later on this year. UM. And after the judges

1295
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 1: ruling halting the investigations due to lack of legal binding,

1296
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: Attorney General Ken Paxton filed an appeal for for for

1297
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: the ruling. So and that's so, so that's that's gonna

1298
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: get appealed. UM. And he he tweeted out that the

1299
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: quote Democrat judges order permitting child abuse is frozen. Much

1300
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: needed investigations will proceed as they should. The fight will

1301
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: continue up to the Supreme Court. I'm ready for it, um.

1302
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 1: But it's unclear how much legal backing this actually has,

1303
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: So we don't know if if the if the if

1304
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: the Protective Services actually has permission to keep investigating or not.

1305
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: It is kind of unclear. Paxton says that they can this,

1306
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: this state judge says they can't, and that's kind of

1307
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: legally up in the air right now, so we don't

1308
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: totally know. But there's gonna be a whole trial on

1309
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: the topic in July. UM. Kind of one of the

1310
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: last things I want to mention is, uh, this this

1311
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: Idaho bill that was passed by the House of Representatives

1312
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,839
Speaker 1: that would that would criminalize gender affirming medical procedures, including

1313
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: property blocker, sorry, including puberty blockers an HRT for any

1314
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: kind of trans transgend gender youth. And it was also

1315
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: reported that the bill would make it a felony punishable

1316
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: by life imprisonment to anyone who helps a kid travel

1317
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: across state lines to get gender affirming healthcare. But this

1318
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: actually maybe isn't actually true, Like this actually probably wasn't

1319
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: a part of that bill. Um. The bill just amend's

1320
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: current laws regarding female genital mutilation, of course of carving

1321
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: out a specific section to allow the mutilation of intersext

1322
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: kits um. But uh, but yeah, it added a section

1323
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: also criminalizing gender firm and care. Um. But the section

1324
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: of the bill making it a felony to travel out

1325
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: of state only refers to the general mutilation section. Um.

1326
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't refer to the gender firm in care section.

1327
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: And it's unclear if that was an oversight um or

1328
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 1: if the limitation was intentional, who knows. Um, But it

1329
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: still did attempt to criminalize gender firm and care within

1330
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: the state. The bill was I believe, I think earlier

1331
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: this morning as of time time of recording, the bill

1332
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: was not passed by the Senate. UM. So that's good. Uh.

1333
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: They said the Senate that it was too vague in

1334
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 1: scope and it was unclear how it was to be enforced.

1335
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: So that bill was halted and it did not did

1336
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: not continue. Um. Yeah, but you know that's yeah. There

1337
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: is a lot of the reason why all stuff has

1338
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: kind of started is that, like there has been so

1339
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: much progress happening in queer rights in the past like

1340
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 1: ten years, right, Um, so, now because the progress is

1341
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: more visible, what was once like obvious but like low

1342
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: key bigotry is trying to be put into law. Right.

1343
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: There's there's there used to be so many medical hoops

1344
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: to jump through to get any type of gender affirming treatment,

1345
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: but now almost every like legit medical organization recognizes the

1346
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: importance of gender firm and care. So that plus the

1347
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: visibility and the cultural acceptance of queerness is making some

1348
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, mostly good old white Christian conservative populations a

1349
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: little bit uncomfortable. Right, There's there's this increasing fear that

1350
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: what if your kid thinks they're trans, well, what if

1351
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: what if they become an unholy degenerate? What if? And

1352
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: what if there are people trying to make that happen

1353
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: on purpose. Right, all of the brutal reality, all of like,

1354
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: all of the brutality in these bills, the kind of

1355
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: the not like the total nonchalance at the possibility of

1356
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, kids killing themselves because of this bill and

1357
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: because of all these legislations. So all of like the

1358
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: transphobia negatively contributing to mental health, all of that brutality

1359
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: is just justified in the minds of these anti trans

1360
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: like people, because it's to save that, it's to save

1361
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: their kids from experiencing that in the first place. Right,

1362
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: it's the idea that queerness is an infection, that it

1363
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: can spread from person to person. It's like it's a

1364
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: it's it's like a contagion. If you hear about it,

1365
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: you could yourself become gay. So they don't hear about it,

1366
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: then that's not going to be a possibility. So all

1367
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: all of the brutality, it's like, it's it's it's it's

1368
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: both the point, but it's also justified because this thing

1369
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: is seen as such like an it's seen as such

1370
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: an ontological threat to their whole idea of like the world.

1371
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's uh, and it's I mean, it's it's

1372
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: not gonna stop right every you know, one, we saw

1373
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: a massive increase in le legislation on this topic. Twenty

1374
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: twenty two, we're seeing an even bigger increased in legislation

1375
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: on this topic, and you know, attempts to physically oppose it.

1376
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's our can can kind of be done.

1377
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: I mean, like you can you can see all there

1378
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: was some some successful kind of protests to the whole

1379
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: school board thing. You can also like you can sneak

1380
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: queer books into libraries, so you can just put you

1381
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,879
Speaker 1: can just put them in there. Um, you can request

1382
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 1: queer books in your library systems. Um, you can you know,

1383
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: attend school board meetings. And again it's sure that the

1384
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: institution of the institution of schooling is problematic um in

1385
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, but it's we shouldn't make it

1386
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: worse for queer kids. So maybe it's still is worth

1387
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: actually focusing on. And there's there's a lot, like you know,

1388
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: you can, like like in the case of the still

1389
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: U suit, there is legal challenges being taken up against

1390
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 1: all of these things. We'll see how that goes. The

1391
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: there's always been a there's always been a shaky record

1392
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: of the legal you know of like the court's ability

1393
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: to protect these rights. But every once in a while

1394
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 1: it does happen, like with like with gay marriage. Um.

1395
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: The last thing I'll mention with like specifically with like

1396
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: HRT being made illegal in a lot of these places

1397
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: at least like prescribed vida doctor. Um, I will kind

1398
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: of talk. I will mention um d I y HRT

1399
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: as the thing that that that is the thing, it

1400
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: exists You can go to d I y h RT

1401
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: dot get hub dot io to get information on this.

1402
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: It's been It requires a lot of research, but you

1403
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: can find like you can get h you can get

1404
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: like estrogen and stuff from like like made by the

1405
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: companies that that supply pharmacies. You can buy that legally. UM.

1406
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: Testosterones a little bit more iffy because that is I

1407
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: think that it is like a schedule tour scheduled three

1408
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: drug UM. But estrogen is much more available UM to

1409
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: buy legally online. To just make sure you get it

1410
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: from a good place and make sure that you you know,

1411
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: know how it affects you and all that stuff, like

1412
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: do lots of reading. But that is a possibility. So

1413
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: I will probably plan an episode on d A y

1414
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: h r T in the near future just it's like

1415
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: a whole episode the topic. But I just wanted to

1416
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: kind of mention that as one of the last things

1417
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: that being like, yeah, if they're restricting all these stuff,

1418
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: we should probably you know, learn to provided ourselves because

1419
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that the government's or any kind of

1420
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: even like pharmacies will be able to do that forever. Right,

1421
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: Like it's it's good to have alternative methods of figuring

1422
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: out how to get the drugs that make you feel nice.

1423
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was that is my episode on the

1424
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: on the legislation that has been happening in the past,

1425
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: in the past really like six months. Um yeah, that's fun. Yeah,

1426
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: but by the time there there there might there might

1427
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: be new stuff that has happened. Oh, most certainly. Yeah. Good,

1428
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: that's why when you know, when all this stuff gets

1429
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: very depressing, I just like listening to my favorite Wayne

1430
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: Cohen's song by Pink Floyd and it really just really

1431
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: does held me down and make you feel much better. Wow. Well,

1432
01:22:55,720 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go listen to the new uh double them

1433
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: that A hundred Gecks did with Billy Joel I Do

1434
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: I Do love Me someone hundred gus mhm yeah, the

1435
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: Gus Joel concert. It's even I hear that that Elton

1436
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: John is going to get into and they're gonna they're

1437
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: gonna do. That would be quite the show. Honestly, that

1438
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: would would be a fascinating experience. That would be a

1439
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: very mix of like horny women in their sixties and

1440
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: horny seventeen year olds. What would happen? Well, yeah, that

1441
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: is Ah, there are plenty of organizations that are you know,

1442
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: fighting inst and stuff in Texas. UM. I could list them,

1443
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: but honestly, if you if you if you're not there,

1444
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: it's it's it's if you mean you should, you should.

1445
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: You should look into what's happening in your area, Learn

1446
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: what legislation is being passed in your area, learn what

1447
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: your you know, representatives are doing, and look into helping

1448
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: people get the way Turkey. That's really that's really. I mean, like,

1449
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: if there's a way that bodybuilders can get testosterone, there's

1450
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: a way that you can get testosterone for transguise, if

1451
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: estrogen is much easier to get, um, so look into that.

1452
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: Don't don't. Don't be stupid. Um. But yeah, that is

1453
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 1: a that's that is. That is that is my piece.

1454
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: Find joy, find violence, and find the correct application of

1455
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: the two that allows people to stay alive. Yeah. Yeah,

1456
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: and uh yeah and uh listen to listen to music

1457
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: that makes you happy. That is that is that is

1458
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: all you can do. All you can all all you

1459
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: can do, yeah is find your favorite YouTube album, uh

1460
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:53,480
Speaker 1: featuring Roger Waters. All right, good bye,