WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: What About Earl? 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.960 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:19.919 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.759 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:39.240 Star in Frisco. Says, Welcome into Talking Cowboys live from 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.640 the Star in Frisco. Rob Phillips and myself are here 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:47.639 for Cowboys Training Camp twenty twenty, presented by American Airlines. 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:49.920 And then we're welcomed him by two who have played 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.880 the game at the highest level. Our normal crew of HECKM. 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.680 Harrison and Isaiah stand back, our residence super Bowl champion. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.640 We are the Talking Cowboys crew as we get you 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.320 set for an hour worth of Dallas Cowboys coverage over 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.600 training camp here in twenty twenty, and really what is 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:11.000 probably one of the more storyline filled weeks of Cowboys 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:15.200 offseason into preseason so far. We've got live game action, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:20.119 actual hitting, Rob today's practice, and then of course Earl 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.720 Thomas news to talk about as he is now a 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.400 free agent. We'll get to all of that coming up 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.080 in the next hour, but Rob I mentioned the live 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.560 practice and exactly what's been going on here at the 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.279 Star as of wait, was there anything that really stood 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.600 out to you today before we get into some of 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.240 the Earl Thomas talk. Well, I didn't get to see 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.560 a whole lot because of the Earl Thomas talk. I 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.360 was socially distanced in the hallway trying to listen to 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.920 Jerry Jones on the fan and figure out what the 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.200 Cowboys want to do with ET. But you're right, they're 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.640 starting to ramp up a little bit, and I believe 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.760 they're just now getting through their installation period, which you 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.640 think about how compressed this camp is. You normally installation 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.559 offense defense in the spring, so they're trying to do that. Now, 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.120 review it the next couple of days, and then we've 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.520 got what looks like a scrimmage on Sunday at at 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.600 and T Stadium, and then we'll start to see more 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.840 of the live stuff and really see these guys compete. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.040 It's getting excited. It is getting exciting, and you're starting 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.200 to see some of the hits. I know previously on 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.600 some Talking Cowboys Isaiah and Heckman, both of you mentioned 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.840 how important it was for Layton Vandersch to get that 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.560 first hit after his neck injury. Well he got it 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:34.919 to and flatten Tony Pollard on a run he wasn't 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:40.000 supposed to be a See what it was is he 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.280 laid the hammer on Tony Pollard. But let's go into 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.440 some of this Earl Thomas news. We'll get to plenty 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.680 of practice later on here in the show. But Isaiah, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.640 this is a former teammate of years who's kind of 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.320 going through some times in his career where it's a 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.000 really a turning point. Of course, he was in Seattle 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:57.920 for the majority of the start of his career. That's 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.280 where YouTube played together. He was then traded over to 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.839 Baltimore for what was a huge deal where he ended 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.680 up signing with the Ravens and playing only a year 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.919 there before he was cut earlier this week. The biggest 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.359 question mark now is where does he go from here? 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.320 Is he somebody that Cowboys could potentially go after? But 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.600 I want to hear first count of somebody who's played 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:30.200 with you want on your football team. Absolutely. Earl Thomas 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.520 and myself we played together his rookie year, him and 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.760 Camp Chances actually back when the legion boom was was 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.880 nice and it was fire back home in Seattle. But 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.440 I played with him my rookie year, and I can 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.160 tell you guys firsthand, this is one of the most competitive, 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.640 hard working, loyal, dedicated individuals that you guys could ever 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.920 hope for to be on your team. Over over his 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.160 past few years, he's went through a lot, right, And 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.800 I don't make excuses for anybody, but you take somebody, 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.960 you think about the characteristic of somebody like that, who 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.200 works hard, who gets everything to organization, who puts it 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.040 all out there in terms of, you know, being great 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.400 teammates and a loyal and then all of a sudden 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.320 for Seattle to kind of do them the way that 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.600 he did them, he was hurt, right, So you saw 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.280 a kind of his exit after he got hurt. Right, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.320 he was mad the whole middle finger thing he was. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.440 He was he was deeply hurt because he had he 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.920 was fully committed to that organization and he didn't feel 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.120 like they were committed to him. So that he leaves there, right, Um, 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.840 he goes to a whole new team. He goes out there, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.719 he does what Earl does, right, he balls out. But 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.200 then he has some issues obviously off the field, and 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.719 then in terms of his latest thing, it sounds like 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.360 it was almost an excuse just to get rid of them. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.680 So I'm gonna be rid with you. It sounds like 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.320 it was almost an excuse just to get rid of them. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.880 We all don't know what was going on internally within 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.960 that organization, but I can tell you, guys what this 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.240 It sounds like the Gallboys have a great opportunity to 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.320 get one of the greatest players in the league for 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.440 a discount. Double check. You heard it here, first discount, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.279 double check. Earl's gonna bring the fire. I can tell you, guys, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.120 he's working his tail off at home. I bet you 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.400 he probably goes on the toilet with a him. That's 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.440 how serious this dude is. I been playing ball. That's 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.920 the line of the day. Nobody can shop that one. No, 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.120 we might as want to just go ahead and cut 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:10.760 it out. We might as well just end the show 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:15.919 because nothing can top with Isaiah just said. But I 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.240 kind of want to take something that Isaiah just said. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.159 He's one of the greatest defensive players in the league 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.680 right now. Is that still true? Is this still the 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.960 same player that we were, at least as Cowboys fans 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.839 were looking at last year as a guy who is 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:35.280 an instant game changer on the defensive side of the football. Man, 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.080 I'm gonna start off what I have to say with 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.320 saying et phone home, we need you. It's not even 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.039 the question of what Earl Thomas brings to this team. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.040 If you just go if you've ever been in a 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.200 meeting room and you're looking at the depth chart and 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.520 you have guys lined up, a seventy percent of Earl 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.320 Thomas gives you more than what you have right now. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.920 And that's not a disc to these other guys. You're 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:03.120 looking at the NFL All decade, an NFL All decade guy, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.279 guy that has thirty interceptions. What he's gonna bring to 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.960 the Cowboys, please bring to the Cowboys. It's gonna be 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.280 a guy that we've heard. This word hybrid, interchangeable is 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.919 another word that we're gonna add to the words of 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.320 twenty twenty. He gives you all of that. You can 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.920 play him anywhere. If you think about what we had 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.040 with Chris Rashard last year, and that's why it made 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.240 it so attractive, because we played Cover three the majority 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.479 of the time. But look, most NFL teams, they show 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.640 you Cover two and they play Cover three. That's what 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.040 they want to do anyway. And this is a guy 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.479 that you can disguise all of your looks. And I 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.400 have to say this as well, if you sign Earl Thomas, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.799 what that's gonna do is nullify the injury to Gerald 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.080 McCoy because of all the things that you can do 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.640 on the back half of your defense. That is just 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.880 something that we have to look at as a team 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:58.080 because he's gonna make us that much better. Rob, do 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.440 you agree while Isaiah said about being a great teammate, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.920 that's really good to hear because I think the biggest 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.960 question people were asking, maybe the Cowboys were asking too, 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.000 is is how the locker room would fit with Earl 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.000 coming in because of what happened in Baltimore and because 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.160 the reports are the players decided, players were part of 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.360 that discussion that you know he needed to move on. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.200 So you know, but we've got to play a former 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.040 player right here that says he's a great team I 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.080 think that's important to factor in. And you know, the 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.920 Cowboys have done their homework on Earl Thomas before. I mean, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.160 he was a free agent a year ago. There was 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.679 a trade speculation before that. Chris Rochard has heck mentioned 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.280 been here for two years. They have an idea of 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.320 what kind of player and what kind of person is. 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:41.800 We all know what kind of player he is for 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.080 sure on the field, and I you know what Jerry 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.800 said on the fan not closing the door. It leads 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.520 me to believe there's still some discussion going on internally 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.960 on what kind of fit would be on the field 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.040 off the field. And the other thing about it, too 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.280 is what I don't think it makes a good business 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.320 sense to come out and say on on on public radio, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.800 Hey we're not interested in somebody. You always keep your 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.560 options open. They're in the middle of padded practices at 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.040 training camp. Even if you're maybe leading in the other direction, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.720 Guys can get hurt, things can happen, and your your 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.440 needs can definitely change on a dime. So I think 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.600 we just all have to stay tuned on this one 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.600 and Rob before Kyle comes in. I know he's about 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.200 to come in on us, but I want to just 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.040 ask this question as if we were all playing GM. 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.760 Let's all play GM, all right, if you have some 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.800 If you have money, first of all, which we now 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.880 have right because McCoy's gone, right and we had the 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.400 injury waiver, so there's money there, and you have one 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.559 of the best players, not even it's not even a 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.400 question in the league, right, and you have him available 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.600 at a position that you're trying to fit somebody into. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.000 Why would you not take this opportunity when he's only 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.360 had one stop where he had an issue with somebody, 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.320 and that's obviously with the Ravens, right right right, Why 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:02.400 would you not You're a go ahead. Heck, it's not 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.960 even a question. It's not. Don't I really don't. I 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.640 don't understand where people are coming from when they say that, oh, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.200 this guy had he's a problem in your locker room. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.480 Maybe he was a problem for the Ravens. I don't 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.520 know what their culture is like. And I know I 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.000 respect the heck out of Ozzie Smith, Ozzie all of 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.440 those guys and knew some excuse me, Obsie knew him 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.360 in Baltimore. I think he's one of the greatest of 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.640 his time. But you have to understand that sometimes when 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.240 a guy wants out of a situation, he may do 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.880 everything in his power to try and get out of 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.679 that situation. Hey, I've been in some bad relationships where 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.040 I've done a lot of things to get out, and 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.960 I'll make it your idea. And the Baltimore Ravens just 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.600 made Hey, we gotta get rid of you. We have 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.000 to get you out of town. And it doesn't look 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.600 good as far as the esthetics of it to hear 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.680 the leadership counsel when to management to say that we 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.680 have to get rid of this guy because he's toxic 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.880 in the locker room. But I'm not gonna use that 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.200 as an indictment. On a ten. You're a veteran who 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:05.719 has played at the highest level his entire career, and 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.480 then you and then you factor in the fact that 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.680 you you have a team right now that is still 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.600 a relatively young team and he has thirteen playoff games 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.400 under his belt. That's that's a that's ten more than 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.760 Dak and that's eight more or six more than Haha has. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.360 And this is a veteran guy that tells you the 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.199 kind of experience that he has, it's going to help 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.600 you later in the system and deep into that playoff run. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.800 I claim in it, and I'm telling you he's the 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.120 guy for it. And how many Super Bowl rings do 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.480 we have on that side of the ball. Oh my god, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.880 not a zero. We don't have nothing on that kind 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.280 of the ball. I'm just gonna have everboded any value there. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.760 I just just wondering. Zero. One of the biggest things 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.560 to me whenever it comes to the Earl Thomas signing 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.120 is whether or not he fits football wise? Does he 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.120 really fit what the Cowboys want to do. I know, 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.880 understandingly we're getting it from a former teammate. He's saying 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.000 that he is good in the locker room. But just 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.440 like Jerry said in his interview with one h five 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.760 point three the Fan today, was this is something that 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.640 it has to go with what we're doing. It has 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.320 to go with exactly what we have at safety. That's 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.880 what it has to go with it. Because but Mike 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.959 McCarthy kind of answered that question indirectly when he said 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.160 the other day that the safeties are interchangeable. So if 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.280 that's the case, he can play anywhere. And I think 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.920 we know he can play anywhere anyway. You guys make 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.680 a compelling case. I mean, I'm just saying what the 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.760 reports are out of Baltimore. I don't know Earl Thomas 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.680 at all. I'm just saying that's what's out there. But 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:42.199 you know, from a perspective of what this defense needs, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.079 they need takeaways, he can do that. He's got thirty 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.120 career interceptions. The other thing is too that jumped out 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.240 and in and Jerry didn't speak to this, but Jerry's 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.960 got a long memory. Right ninety two, they needed one 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.520 more piece to win the Super Bowl, and it was 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.959 it was Charles Haley. It was one missing piece. And 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.319 the Cowboys are built. They have built this team to win. Now, 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.600 you do not hire Mike McCarthy if you don't think 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.960 you're close. You would hire a younger coach and try 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.319 to rebuild. So I wonder how much is that is 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.040 the thinking, like, are we really just one piece away 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:19.120 defensively from from getting this thing done? Right? Right? Hey, 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.640 let me ask you this qua this question. If you're 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.480 coming off of the domessy violence stuff that Earl has, right, 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.320 there's no question going back into a locker room setting 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.840 understanding what you just came off of, you're going to 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.040 get clowned. You're gonna get clowned. Right, we all know 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.360 the situation. We don't have to dive into it. You're 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.320 gonna people are gonna talk about it, laughing about you. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.880 Every little joke's gonna be about you. When you're in practice, 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.200 You're gonna it's gonna get heated. And let me let 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.040 me just in case people don't know, there is a 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:47.880 fight every single day in training camp, at every training camp. 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:49.680 You guys don't hear about it. If you guys don't 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.920 see it, but somebody's getting their haid and taking off 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.720 and somebody's getting punched every day. Okay, So if that happens, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.560 So that's what I said, it's kind of a scapego. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.280 So I don't know what's going on in the locker room. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.040 But what I do know is Earl Thomas. As we 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.520 look at our secondary that we have right now, he 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.400 would be the only name that you would need to 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.320 know every time you come to the secondary. You need 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.160 to know where he's out on the field. As we 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.000 stand right now, there's nobody that's that threatening in the 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.800 secondary now. You have to know where they're at as 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.520 a defensive I mean, as an offensive players, as a quarterback, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.120 when you sat up to the line of scrimmage, you 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.200 better identify where the hit Earl Thomas is at. And 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.080 that's where he provides to his team. And the other 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.040 part about what Earl Thomas provides if you look at yourself, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.520 if you look at your rookie Diggs, and let's just 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.240 say the Cowboys coaching staff that saying when loser draw, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.680 he's going to be our first day guy, Earl Thomas 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.440 behind Diggs. Oh my god. It gives that rookie just 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.640 the opportunity to trust his eyes on everything that's in 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.600 front of him because Earl Thomas would have his whole back. 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:54.400 This is a situation where if you bring Earl Thomas 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.679 the air that that puts you in in the NFL, 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.720 I mean the San Francisco forty nine ers, the other 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.880 other like the Tampa Bay defenses, Dallas would be right 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:10.120 there as far as championship level defenses. On paper, all 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.960 I'm saying is that it to me, it sounds like 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.520 the Cowboys are in a win win situation with a 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.280 guy who's already gonna get ten million dollars from another 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.280 team of as far as their cap it, and so 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.000 his bank account is on Charlie West. You gotta sign him. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.480 That's that's he's gonna happen. You do bring up the 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.600 financial component of it, though, and we don't know, you know, 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.360 how much money the Ravens are gonna get from him 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.960 based on you know, there's gonna be a grievance probably 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.080 and they're gonna try to say it was violation of 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.840 team rules or whatever and try so it may change 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.720 what he wants from a team. However, I will say this, 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.520 if this is the place he's always wanted to be 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.880 running up to Jason Garrett said, come get me, he's 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.800 you know, if he comes here, then he's gonna do 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.640 what I would imagine, whatever he needs to do to 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.320 be fit in. So discount a check. I to tell 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.920 you when Earl's happy, right, Earl was a leader of that. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.560 When you guys talk about the legion of Boom, who 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.000 do you think head at that up? We hear, we 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.560 hear about Richard Sherman all the time. But seeing this internally, 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.560 if these guys were Kim Cam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, right Brown, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.400 or all those guys, Earl would be the one that 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.520 would call those guys together and say, hey, we're going 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.440 here to work out. Earl would be the one that say, hey, 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.280 come over and let's we'll watch the film in my house. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.840 That was Earl. So that's why you saw him so 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.400 angry when he left Seattle and how he left, because 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.320 he did he did that. He was the founding father 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.760 of that of the legion of boom. So I'm just 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.960 saying it right here. If they miss on this, they 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.800 will regretted. They will regret it because that is the 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.240 only missing piece. They have a great defensive line, they 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.120 have a great linebacker corps. They need somebody who's an 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.160 absolute dog in the secondary. And that's why we talk 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.000 about it so much, because we don't have a dog 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:54.920 in the secondary. Whether it was Jabal Adams or now 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.800 Earl Thomas, it's it's been a topic of conversation. But Isaiah, 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.840 I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm not sold yet. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.760 I'm not Honora Old Thomas on the acquisition. I want 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.800 to know. I want to have more information. I do, 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.920 I really do. I want to know exactly what went 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:13.840 on in Baltimore to the point where it's not worth 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.000 the risk anymore to me, because you've got the momentum 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.880 right now, even though the secondary, of course, you brought 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.760 in a guy. You brought in a veteran and haha, 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:22.720 Clinton Dick. So we're gonna talk about him at coming 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.480 up here in this next segment. But seemingly there's some 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:30.320 discontent there already. Would it just explode that discontent? That's 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.640 my question. Would that be something that could be a 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.600 trouble some move later on if you bring an explosive 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:42.600 guy like Earl Thomas, Hey, hey Kyle, let me let me, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.840 let me, let me do this. There's there's been there's 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.800 been a there's been a lot of attention on Haha 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.200 Clinton Dix. He's a good pick up, no differencepec. He's 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.360 a good player. He's a good player. We're talking about 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.880 great player, right, So we're asking a good player in 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.200 Haha Clinton Dix to take the throne of being rate 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.360 and to be this magnificent leader all of a sudden 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.000 of all these young guys that are he surrounded around. Now, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.440 you take somebody like Earl who's already done this before, right, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.000 name another secondary has been called legion of boom or 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.880 anything of that in that category right when he helped 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.639 heat created that. So you take somebody who was taking 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.240 leadership in that regard before and brought a whole youth, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.040 a whole young group together before and made them super 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.679 duper effective within the system they're working in. Oh and 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.000 by the way, you give him already a veteran safety 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:33.119 to play Alongsidely, what are we even talking about? Well, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:38.000 I think Thomas can I Tommy wearing a yellow jacket 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:42.040 one day, gold jacket exactly. Will Here's my question back 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:52.679 to you, Yeah, Hm to be worth the risk? What 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.080 makes him so special to get to that point because 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.359 I'm not sold. He's the same player that was the 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.560 legion of boom that was back he went to the 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.560 promo last year what are you doing last year? What 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.320 are you last? And we all agreed that that probably 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.560 wasn't that the best thing? Man? They're not handed out 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.800 free tickets to Hawaii. I know they're not going to 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:17.080 Hawaiki anywere is not just a they don't give those 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:22.840 guys no. If you disregard Earl Thomas's Pro Bowl and 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.000 you better disregard Jalen Thomas, I mean j j Jalen 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:34.600 Janna Smiths. That the window. That's That's how I appreciate Kyle. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.399 Listen right now, right now on the defense, I can 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.040 tell you if Earl Thomas walked on this team right now, 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.919 how ready will go down? He would be the most 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.280 feared player on his defense right now, right now, most 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:52.840 feared over Tank, Lawrence Everson, Griffin, Layton vander esh Absolutely, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:54.159 you know why I could you would chip on those 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:56.639 you could chip on those guys. I could put an 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.000 extra tight end right there, and I could chip on 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.439 those guys, and I can I could affect. I can, 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.120 I can have an effect over how how productive they are. 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.359 Earl's sitting back there looking at you running around. I 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.000 guarantee you Earl still runs a flour or four. Guarantee you, 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.159 at the very least he's running four to three. I 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:12.879 bet you if he fell off, he runs a four 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.760 or four now, and guess what He's going to run 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.320 around sideline the sideline and he's going to hit you 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.200 in your chess cavity without any regard of his body. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.680 You need that, and you need that on your team. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.200 We want that on our team because Earl Thomas is 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.159 a scud missile from the free safety position and you 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.240 don't have that. Right now, you were talking about comparing 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.639 apples to apples or ours however you want to put it. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.879 Earl Thomas is not none of that. He is a 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.200 whole other category. And so if we say, oh, father time, 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.360 which is undefeated, has caught up with Earl Thomas and 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.840 he isn't what he was when he got started in 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.600 the NFL. Well, even at seventy percent, Kyle, He's better 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.320 than what we have and you cannot disregard that. Don't 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.760 talk yourself out of it. Don't let nobody trick us 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.840 out our spot right now. I made you all bored 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.120 with this coast side it dog, don't do it. Talk 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.239 to him. So if I if I hear this right, 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:12.520 Robin and Henck and obviously Kyle a rusty and washed 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.879 up earl Thomas can still make the Pro Bowl? Is 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.399 that what I'm hearing? He still made the Pro Bowl? 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.959 Still did and and he had and you know, PF 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.640 and the metrics guys said he had a good year. Still, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.480 how many how many safeties going? I know, Rob, I 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:28.040 know you know how many safeties go to the Pro Bowl? 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:34.720 Just a couple? Right, Yeah, it's not a lot. Yeah, okay, 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.440