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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. It is Thursday, October thirtieth, and you are

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Speaker 1: listening to Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 2: And we are now in the final countdown to Halloween.

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Speaker 2: It is our Halloween Horror hit list and we are

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Speaker 2: already at number two.

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Speaker 1: You're feeling good about our choices.

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Speaker 3: We me already at it's been a month already at

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Speaker 3: it's blown by it. It hasn't flown. This has been

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Speaker 3: a long, hard haul. We have been, you know, to

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Speaker 3: just watch horror movies all day. It seems like, well.

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Speaker 1: We do every day.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it would put you in a down

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Speaker 3: a in a dark move. This is uplifting to us.

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Speaker 3: I always say hearing people screaming is like our white

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Speaker 2: It is embarrassing sometimes though, if strangers are around, or

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Speaker 2: if someone's calling and they hear someone screaming in the background.

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Speaker 1: For us, it's.

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Speaker 3: Just a Tuesday that has absolutely happened on zoom calls

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Speaker 3: or something at the house. We're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: what's happening. It sounds like somebody's being murdered in the

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Speaker 3: second room. But no, this is great and we're at

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Speaker 3: number two. And this, folks, we will tell you right

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Speaker 3: now I am guarunteeing you will be crying in this movie.

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Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. There will be tears

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Speaker 3: in your eyes and at least one and possibly two

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Speaker 3: moments in this movie.

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Speaker 2: I have seen this movie personally, I mean at least

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Speaker 2: at least six or seven times. We just rewatched it

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Speaker 2: before we recorded this and once again, sobbing. Not just

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Speaker 2: a few tears wiping away, I mean just powerful, powerful acting,

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Speaker 2: powerful storytelling, all set in a zombie apocalypse.

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Speaker 3: And one more thing for you here, folks, how extraordinary

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Speaker 3: this movie is. You're gonna be crying. This movie is

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Speaker 3: so ub titled the entire time. It is not in English,

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Speaker 3: and the dubbing is not available or is it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it might be for some folks, but it isn't

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Speaker 2: on Netflix. Okay, you have to watch it with the subtitle, folks.

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Speaker 3: This is a special special movie.

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Speaker 2: It is our number two on our horror hit list,

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Speaker 2: and it is trained to Bussan And this is one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest horror films ever made ever, ever, and

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Speaker 2: it was released back in twenty sixteen. It's an hour

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Speaker 2: and fifty eight minutes, so it's on the longer side

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Speaker 2: of our horror movies. It's rated R. It fully fully

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Speaker 2: gets that rating for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 3: It deserves it.

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Speaker 2: Yet but this synopsis is a man, his estranged daughter,

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Speaker 2: and other passengers become trapped on a speeding train during

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Speaker 2: a zombie outbreak in South Korea.

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Speaker 3: That is so simplistic. That is such a dumbing down

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Speaker 3: of how extraordinary this movie is. That is one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent accurate, but there is so much that goes into

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Speaker 3: every relationship, every moment, every scenario, and everything going on.

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Speaker 3: That synopsis is accurate, but doesn't do this movie justice.

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Speaker 2: That's right, And I feel like because of the foreign

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Speaker 2: language aspect of this film, perhaps a lot of folks

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Speaker 2: didn't necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Jump on this train or watch it.

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Speaker 2: Now that it's on Netflix, I feel like maybe more

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Speaker 2: of you might have seen it. But this has been

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Speaker 2: something I've been screaming from the rooftops.

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Speaker 1: Somehow I watched this movie.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I heard word about it, but

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Speaker 2: I have been watching this movie for I feel like

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Speaker 2: almost a decade now since it came out.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was sold until you just said it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And this was another one before people were so into

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Speaker 2: these types of films.

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Speaker 1: People were like, what what, what film were you talking about?

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Speaker 2: In fact, I believe that you watched this upon my recommendation,

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Speaker 2: and you were a little reticent.

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Speaker 3: Because I don't like subtitles. I hate, hate, hate, hate

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Speaker 3: hate subtitles. And I hate it when so many younger folks,

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Speaker 3: now certainly your daughter's generation, Sabine not so much, they

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Speaker 3: watch every movie with subtitles. On movies in English, they

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Speaker 1: I mean Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 2: It's helpful when you have strong accents, even when someone

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Speaker 3: I hear that, But it doesn't matter what we're watching.

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Speaker 3: It can be as plain the English. It could be

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Speaker 3: whatever that what's that river show on Netflix? Something River,

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Speaker 3: Virgin River.

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Speaker 1: Virgin River is definitely Neflix.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I don't know why that one came to mind.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying, the most American and American accent of movies,

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Speaker 2: Feel like you don't miss anything that way, and if

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Speaker 2: you get used to it, like The thing is, once

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Speaker 2: you forget you're even reading it, but you're getting reinforced

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Speaker 1: You don't miss anything.

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Speaker 3: You don't miss anything thing because the younger generation isn't

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Speaker 3: paying attention. Correct, they don't have this saying they're not

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Speaker 1: It's like a text message.

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Speaker 2: On top of it is the verbal kill, so that

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Speaker 2: they're reinforced. Their brain sees it and hears it, and

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Speaker 2: it's better that way because they're probably distracted doing something else.

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Speaker 3: But despite the point is despite all that, this movie

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Speaker 3: still plays.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so the box office it did well ninety

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Speaker 2: five million worldwide. I think that's fairly significant for a

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Speaker 2: foreign Lange language film. Here, but the cast, you won't

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Speaker 2: know the name's gone you, but you will know his face.

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Speaker 2: If you love squid Games, that was your big moment

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Speaker 2: when you had already watched squid Games.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps before you saw trained Bussan Oh yeah, and you

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Speaker 1: My god, it's the guy for squid Games.

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Speaker 3: And this is the guy. Of course you all watch

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Speaker 3: squid Game. He's the recruiter. He's kind of the slick,

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Speaker 3: And in this one he kind of is the same handsome,

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's the hedge fund manager who everyone loves to

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Speaker 1: Part of the heart of this movie.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can watch this again right now,

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Speaker 2: But Rotten Tomatoes, I have to say, agrees with us

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Speaker 2: you will find, ninety five percent. That's among the critics.

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Speaker 2: The audience score not far below eighty nine percent. This

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Speaker 2: is one where the two really agree with each other.

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Speaker 2: And when you have such rave reviews, it's actually this

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Speaker 1: Why do you love it?

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Speaker 3: We like zombie movies. If you're a Walking Dead fan,

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Speaker 3: those things, you know. The best one I could compare

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Speaker 3: this to is is World war Z if you're a

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Speaker 3: the the emotional, the family dynamic is so central to

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Speaker 3: there are several family dynamics and relationships that play out.

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Speaker 3: And again, a foreign language film, and it delivers. I'm

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Speaker 1: This is a special movie, you know what was cool about?

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Speaker 1: Like you point that out.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes in these apocalyptic movies they want to

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Speaker 2: stop it with the Pollyanna. Everything's like wonderful. We all

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Speaker 3: That's it. It's not done well.

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Speaker 2: This is nuanced and it is real life. It's not perfect.

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Speaker 2: The relationships aren't great. And yet when you're forced to

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Speaker 1: I love that all right.

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Speaker 2: The critic consensus here it is trained to Bussan delivers

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Speaker 2: a thrillingly unique and purely entertaining take on the zombie genre,

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Speaker 2: with fully realized characters and plenty of social commentary to

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Speaker 3: What was that part the first part you said, fully

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Speaker 3: realized characters, fully realized characters. I don't know how they

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Speaker 3: Even I was caught up in their world and what

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was so odd. And again, in its messiness,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't. You didn't have characters who were good and

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Speaker 3: There was something imperfect in everybody. But then the same

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Speaker 3: But this is now of them thinking about it more

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Speaker 3: South Korean horror. If you get a chance to check

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Speaker 1: Over it, they really do. It's so good. Even one

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Speaker 2: Movies on the list, Cavin in the Woods, makes a

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Speaker 2: it does almost pay homage to Asian horror in that movie.

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Speaker 2: It was a funny moment. Anyway, I digress. Here are

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Speaker 2: some of the critic reviews that some up what we

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Speaker 2: completely concur with. Trained to Busan is arguably the best

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Speaker 2: zombie apocalypse movie of all times. Yes, that is the

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Speaker 2: subgenre finds in Young saying Ho. That is the director's

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Speaker 2: mind mind blowing flick, the masterpiece it deserves. I can't

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Speaker 2: find a single flaw. It left me emotionally drained.

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Speaker 1: This is from a critic.

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Speaker 3: It the emotional part of it is unexpected because the

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Speaker 3: I think it's if you to take out the zombie stuff,

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Speaker 3: of the emotional and the relationship standpoint, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: I don't want to it's not your jam. I don't

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just fun.

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Speaker 2: But that actually elicited emotions that actually carried the film.

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Speaker 2: You know what I was laughing at when you have

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Speaker 1: No matter what angle you're looking at this from. We've

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Speaker 3: We've seen that again. Those things are just dismissive. Yes,

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Speaker 2: By far, the most emotional and tear jerking zombie movie

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Speaker 2: All Right, the perfect zombie date drama. If you were

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Speaker 2: and here's another one. An incredible film from start to finish.

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Speaker 2: This is filmmaking at its finest, combining genres seamlessly while

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Speaker 1: It really doesn't get better than this.

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Speaker 3: And this is a two hour movie that doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: It's so true all right, you want you want to hear,

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Speaker 2: absolute joke. It makes no sense whatsoever. First of all,

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Speaker 1: You did point that out.

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Speaker 3: And she's not even central to the movie. This is

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Speaker 2: Why on earth with this grandmother open a door to

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Speaker 2: Then there's this guy at the end who decides to

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Speaker 1: Genius. I'm sorry that part of the film is one

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Speaker 1: They just don't get it, and.

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Speaker 3: I encourage all of you not to be that person.

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Speaker 3: Don't be that contrarian this person. What is your problem

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Speaker 3: I'm serious. That is not being critical of a movie

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Speaker 3: this is not even about the movie. Now I'm going

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Speaker 3: It wasn't for me. I didn't like the choice they

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Speaker 3: often we see this attitude where our only reaction to

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Speaker 2: Why exactly? I mean, this is not a bad day

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Speaker 3: Or having a bad life or whatever, but projecting onto

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Speaker 2: I think the interesting thing about that is it does

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Speaker 1: All Right, when we come back, we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna reiterate why this movie made our list to it's for,

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing? But my god, the heart.

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Speaker 2: I dare anyone to watch this film and not be

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Speaker 3: No, you get caught up and get emotional, and sometimes

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Speaker 3: in a lot of horror movies, this is, uh, this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not.

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Speaker 2: And that's not even something you expected when I first

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Speaker 2: I fully explain to you when you watched it what

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wasn't. That's just me.

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Speaker 3: It's just me. Yeah, I expected not to like it

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Speaker 1: And at the end you were wiping tears.

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Speaker 3: I am guaranteed. Go ahead, take it as a challenge.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to come back and were you're going

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Speaker 3: Yes you were. You're gonna be lying, all right.

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Speaker 1: So who this movie is for?

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Speaker 2: I think if you are somebody who knows you love

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Speaker 1: This is your movie.

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Speaker 2: Also, if you like action, if you like a thrilling

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Speaker 2: it's heartfelt, there are real scares and thrills in it,

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Speaker 2: I mean this really, I feel like this runs the

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Speaker 3: This has all rom com This is the only person

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Speaker 3: that's the only element it doesn't have in there and

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Speaker 3: it's there's a I'm trying to think of even a

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Speaker 2: And that little girl, I don't think we've spoken enough

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Speaker 2: She reminded me of Sabine from the moment I watched

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Speaker 2: There's a quiet strength and sweetness about her that reminds

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Speaker 3: She's the best actor in the movie. Without a doubt,

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Speaker 1: It's remarkable what she's able to pull off. So in

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Speaker 1: the Who's it Not for?

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I had written if you don't like

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Speaker 2: it's still for you. I think this is for everybody.

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Speaker 2: And if you're going to be cynical or want to

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Speaker 1: But other than that, this movie is for you.

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Speaker 3: The horror is extreme, though you need to be aware

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Speaker 2: Koreans love their beer, so all of that would be fun.

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Speaker 2: So that would be one idea to pair it with.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, this is just a fun, popcorn intensity, full

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Speaker 2: intensity kind of a movie. You can just whatever action

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Speaker 2: movie food pairing you'd put it with. This is the

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Speaker 2: movie for you, and you can watch this on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: So yes, just be prepared for subtitles no dubbing on

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Speaker 2: Netflix right now. But it's easy to watch and man,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you'll regret it for one second.

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Speaker 3: No, you have to watch this movie. Maybe out of

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Speaker 3: all the movies we have, this might be my number

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Speaker 3: one recommendation, even though it's not number one. If there's

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Speaker 3: one you have to watch that is going to get

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Speaker 3: everybody that I don't think is going to be controversial,

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Speaker 3: like everybody is going to feel this movie.

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Speaker 1: Yes, agreed? All right?

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Speaker 2: So speaking of number one, Yes, that is our next episode.

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Speaker 2: Halloween is tomorrow. How would you tease this movie?

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Speaker 3: Babe? Shockingly, the one we recommend on Halloween is probably

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Speaker 3: the one with the fewest jumps scares and gore, and

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Speaker 3: it happens to be rated PG thirteen. Wow.

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Speaker 1: How's that for a tease?

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Speaker 2: And we still assure you this is given a lot

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Speaker 2: of thought and a lot of time, our number one

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Speaker 2: movie in our Halloween Horror hit list, and without everyone,

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Speaker 2: I'm may be Robock alongside TJ.

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Speaker 1: Holmes. We will talk to you soon.