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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Well,

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Speaker 1: not exactly. That's not the cast of character for this show.

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Speaker 1: You know. We do a little bit of everything on

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys Break. I don't think we've actually had this

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Speaker 1: combination before. But I'm happy to be here. Nick eat Men,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, Jesse Holly joins the shot. What first time

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Speaker 1: for the Break? This is the first time you and

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Speaker 1: I have ever worked together, really ever on anything. Well,

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Speaker 1: not exactly, Man, I did a story with you after

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Speaker 1: you were going to cover. Yeah, that's different. That's different.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's us both doing work. I just wrote

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Speaker 1: a story about you, like like two days ago. It's

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Speaker 1: a small story. Yeah, it's for the a book that

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Speaker 1: we're working on, the sixtieth anniversary book. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: figured you would be a nice little sidebar. And in

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Speaker 1: the eleven season, all right, kill Pegras going on here.

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Speaker 1: Huh understatement you know what, Well, depends on your definition

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Speaker 1: of happening. But yeah, go ahead, Yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I totally forgotten about one name, big name that's been

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Speaker 1: the names that are in and out all that before

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Speaker 1: we get going. I just want to say this. You

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Speaker 1: guys can chime in on your thoughts on this. My opinion.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you know this. There's a lot of stuff going

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Speaker 1: on in the world. We know that, we know that

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Speaker 1: from the outside, and bigger stuff than football. So yes,

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Speaker 1: that being said, we're not being toned deaf to anything

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Speaker 1: gives people a little bit of a break. That's what

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Speaker 1: the news that they read. And it can be kind

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Speaker 1: of you get tired head doing that. So we know

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Speaker 1: that there's bigger stuff going on, but we're, you know,

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Speaker 1: gonna take this time here and talk about Cowboys, talk

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Speaker 1: about football, and hopefully things get back to reality. It's

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Speaker 1: been a really weird week because you know, the league

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Speaker 1: decided to go forward free agency, and probably for the

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Speaker 1: better because there's no guarantee that this is going to

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Speaker 1: remarkably improve in the next few weeks. So it's been

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Speaker 1: a really nice distraction to think about, Oh man, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this guy's going like Tom Brady's going to Tampa, Like

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Speaker 1: what's that going to look like? But then like as

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Speaker 1: soon as I start thinking about that, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: like can he get his physical Like when are the

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Speaker 1: OTA's Like when are we actually going to get to

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Speaker 1: see Tom Brady wear a buccaneer uniform. It's just really weird,

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Speaker 1: But it has been nice to have this stuff to

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Speaker 1: talk about and think about, for sure. Jesse. Just now,

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Speaker 1: you were kind of asking what was the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: And I think we said Tom Brady, you asked the question,

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Speaker 1: you really didn't give the answer. What was What was

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Speaker 1: your answer? I guess Cowboys related or just anything NFL um,

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Speaker 1: And you can do that when you spend two years

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Speaker 1: offloading all your good players. I mean that's you know,

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Speaker 1: So TV twelve in Tampa Bay. Oh yeah, I'll give you.

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Speaker 1: During my time at UNC, I played basketball as well,

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Speaker 1: and my number was twenty four. UM. And so one

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Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of it's just his job

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Speaker 1: least getting positioned in kake a field goal. So field

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Speaker 1: they have to shed and get off, that is where

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Speaker 1: they begin to struggle through the course of a game.

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Speaker 1: So if you got some bigger guys in front of

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Speaker 1: them that allow them to just be free flowing, tackling machines,

427
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Speaker 1: now you've created something for those guys to go and

428
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Speaker 1: be athletes, to go out there and just do what

429
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Speaker 1: they normally do instead of having to deal with shedding

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Speaker 1: guys because they just can't. Like they're they're they're not

431
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Speaker 1: your traditional linebackers. They're more of your run fast linebackers.

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Speaker 1: So we have to deal with those fat dudes through

433
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Speaker 1: the course of the game. That wears them down. What

434
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Speaker 1: is your defensive tackle position looking like right now? That's

435
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Speaker 1: so I really like the McCoy's signing. It's funny to me,

436
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: you know. And and obviously you know Rod Marinelli's not here.

437
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: Maybe that's part of it. They didn't want him. He

438
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Speaker 1: got one year for ten million last year with Carolina.

439
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Speaker 1: They weren't interested there. He signs here for a reported

440
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Speaker 1: he agrees here or whatever, we'll see. It's it's a

441
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Speaker 1: weird week. But the deal that is supposedly in place

442
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Speaker 1: is three for twenty with bonuses, it comes out to

443
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Speaker 1: like six a year. So it's I mean, it's always

444
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Speaker 1: going to be about cost with these guys. It seems

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Speaker 1: like um, but I think he's still got gas in

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Speaker 1: the tank. He played well in Carolina. The thing again,

447
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Speaker 1: like Jesse said, it can't be all they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, mathematically, it can't be all they're gonna do

449
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: because they literally have Gerald McCoy and Tristan Hill. And

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Speaker 1: that's I was sitting here yesterday. I'm like, these nose

451
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Speaker 1: tackles are dwindling because Lynvall, Joseph is gone, a Sean

452
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Speaker 1: Robinson is gone. I think there's a couple other guys

453
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Speaker 1: that have gotten snatched off the market too, to where

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I would love for you to invest in

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Speaker 1: what that entails next. Has is still out there, still

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Speaker 1: available steps if you want to, if you want to

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Speaker 1: see me do some fist pumpings, make that happen. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're working backwards here when this is These are the

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Speaker 1: we're back here on the break. We're talking a little

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Speaker 1: reality TV show from Jesse Holly. Of course he won

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Speaker 1: fourth and long? What blow was that? Long time ago? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and ten. Rossom though nine nine years now,

501
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine got you into the Cowboys on

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Speaker 1: two thousand and ten. I still my favorite story. It's

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Speaker 1: not everyone will say the forty nine ers running seventy

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Speaker 1: seven yards. My favorite one is the Vikings game. And

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Speaker 1: I know they played it on here or the last

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Speaker 1: week about but the best part about that whole thing

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Speaker 1: was that it was a punt that just landed right

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Speaker 1: to you. You turn and scored, But that got you

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Speaker 1: onto the practice squad that year. And that play was

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Speaker 1: fourth and long. It was, and they punted and it

511
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Speaker 1: went right to you, and you said, I'll just take

512
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Speaker 1: this to the house. Go do it. Man. We need

513
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: we needed to make a play. We were losing that game,

514
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Speaker 1: and I see that was the fourth preseason game, and

515
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: in your mind, we needed to make a play. And

516
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: most of the other player's mind is I'm running out

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Speaker 1: of sunflower seeds. You know, like this this game, you know,

518
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: get my pads off, right, But not for everyone. And

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00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: we have seen fourth preseason game can matter to a

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Speaker 1: certain That's what I don't want them to eliminate preseason, Like,

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Speaker 1: don't treat preseason like it's nothing, because it means something

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Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, it doesn't mean anything to Dak and

523
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Speaker 1: to Zeke and tomorrow, but guys like me, it means something.

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Speaker 1: So every opportunity that we get because you don't get

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Speaker 1: him in practice. Yeah, you guys know that you had

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Speaker 1: training camp. Like if you're in training camp and you

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Speaker 1: get two reps, you've had a good day. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The starters get all the reps. Guess what,

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Speaker 1: I know. The Cowboys get five preseason games this year,

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Speaker 1: we hope. Come on now, I'm just signing talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Let's not do that here, all right, All right, let's

532
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Speaker 1: go to what they did earlier in the week. Um start,

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Speaker 1: let's go with a Mark Cooper. I mean five years,

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00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. That's the that's the deal that

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Speaker 1: is signed. That deal is signed, by the way, what

536
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Speaker 1: do you think about that? Do you think the Redskins

537
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Speaker 1: came in the last minute and kind of pushed up

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Speaker 1: the price somewhat? I feel like the price was probably

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Speaker 1: always there, right, that's yeah, twenty and I don't know

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Speaker 1: that's the way these things type of work, kind of work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Julio is at twenty two. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mari doesn't have as great of a case for that,

543
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: so he doesn't set the market. But how long ago

544
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Speaker 1: did O'Dell sign his eighteen million dollars deal? Two years?

545
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: Two years ago? So I mean that that's just so

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I necessarily buy that the Redskins

547
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Speaker 1: like drove the price up. I think that was probably

548
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: always the price, just when you account for the ever

549
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Speaker 1: expanding market, you know, when you when you make that

550
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Speaker 1: trade the way they did. And I just remember thinking,

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00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: if they lose a Maar Cooper, all the stuff that

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Speaker 1: they said about Cooper being twenty four years old and

553
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: all that like that means you have to sign him

554
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: because you're drafting, you're using your first round pick for him,

555
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: so he has to be here. So I thought it

556
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: was going to be a huge fail if he wasn't.

557
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I still think that's a little high for what we

558
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Speaker 1: saw last year. I don't think that he showed last

559
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Speaker 1: year that he was the second best receiver in the NFL.

560
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: I guess you could make the case Julio didn't say

561
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Speaker 1: didn't show he was the first, but he has over

562
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: the course of his career. But there's some concerns. I

563
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: think with Amari Cooper, they're still there and you wonder

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Speaker 1: how him getting twenty million a year. You wonder how

565
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: if it all changes anything. I think a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the concern And they know more because and I

567
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 1: mean they, as Stephen and Jerry Jones, know more about

568
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: was there a rocky relationship between Amari and Sanjay and

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Speaker 1: Amari and Jason. You know that the talks about that

570
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: last year and how that are played into whatever the

571
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Speaker 1: performance was on the field and now that you have

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Speaker 1: a fresh start. And I think with Mike mccarthury, he

573
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Speaker 1: looks at it and and you go, we need a guy.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to be successful at what we do offensively,

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00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: we need a guy like this. We need we're going

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00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: to be in three and four wide receiver sets, and

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00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: it kills what we want to do schematically offensively if

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Speaker 1: we don't have a dominant number one, you know, if

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00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: we don't have a dominant number one that can set

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00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: the tone of what we want to do offensively, then

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00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: it kind of really kills what we can do everywhere

582
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: else and how we can continue to grow Michael Gallup

583
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: and how we can continue to grow Blake draw one

584
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: and whoever they are other pieces they bring in to

585
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: play in the slot, it kills all those other pieces

586
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: if you don't have a guy outside that's going to

587
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: command the defense's attention and the number one corner and

588
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: the safety being you know, moving over to that side.

589
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: So I think when you add all that into the play,

590
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: and then if I'm an agent, I'm going back and

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00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying you saw what Dak was when you didn't

592
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Speaker 1: have him, right, like, as much as you want to

593
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: say what it was last year between the home and

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Speaker 1: the waste splits about how those and the targets, maybe

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Speaker 1: in the play of that but you have to say

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Speaker 1: to yourself, I'm an agent, I'm going and I'm saying, Okay,

597
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: mister Jones, you remember what life was like before he

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Speaker 1: got here. And if you want to start all over

599
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: again with the devil that you don't know but all means,

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00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: don't pay us and we'll go somewhere else. But if

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Speaker 1: you want to keep this thing here and deal with

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00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: the devil that you do know and build with the

603
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: new offense that you are going to half with Mike McCarthy,

604
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: then here's our number. Five year deals make me uncomfortable

605
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Speaker 1: just as a general rule, especially, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: we all remember getting two point one years out of

607
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: Dez's five year deal. Like you never know what's going

608
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: to happen. A lot of these guys never see the

609
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: end of them, So it makes me uncomfortable. But one

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Speaker 1: thing I read, and you know, shout out to Todd Archer.

611
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: He's the king of breaking down contracts. He you know,

612
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: he laid this out in a really encouraging way for

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00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, which is that they have a get out

614
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: clause after two years with this deal because the vast

615
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: majority of the guarantees are in the first two years,

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Speaker 1: so if you have to part way is in year

617
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: three or year four, that's not going to kill you.

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00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: And I feel perfectly fine with that. And for that matter,

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Speaker 1: Amar's a young guy. I can imagine him finishing this

620
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: deal like that's not crazy, just because he's twenty six

621
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: right now. So that's fine. And the other thing is

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Speaker 1: I understand the concerns, you know, with you know, the

623
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Speaker 1: way the season ended. You know, people are put off

624
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: by his demeanor. Sometimes I try to look at it

625
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: the other way and say, this guy's steady eddie, Like

626
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: if that's how Amari Cooper handled himself in a contract year,

627
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Speaker 1: then I don't think getting this crazy payout is going

628
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: to change too much about his demeanor. And I value

629
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: that just you know, it's it's nice to know. I

630
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: think you know exactly what you're gonna get at all

631
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Speaker 1: times from Amari Cooper, which is not something you could

632
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: ever say about Dez and I can see you. I mean,

633
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Speaker 1: I get it because you know, he played two snaps

634
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Speaker 1: against the Jets and he didn't go back in on

635
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: fourth down against the Eagles. I just mean in terms

636
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: of like his demeanor, like he's the same guy all

637
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: the time, and that can be frustrating, but he is not.

638
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he's an unpredictable guy. I don't know

639
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: that gives me some peace of mind. Well, I think

640
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: last year was weird, you know, just because he there

641
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: were games where he just didn't play well at all,

642
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: and they were typically on the road. Yeah, I don't

643
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: know if this if that's enough of a sample size

644
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: to say he's only good at home and only good

645
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: on the road. But I know last year, you know,

646
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's an indoors thing. You know, maybe it's you know,

647
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: when weather's is tough and it's tough to pass and

648
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: he you know, harder for him to get open. But

649
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, there were some games last year, I mean

650
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: New Orleans was another one. He had a couple of

651
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: really tough penalties that went against them, and those I

652
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: think they were questionable offensive past interference calls, but either way,

653
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: you know it affected that game. So you know, he

654
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: had some moments where when he's on, they're really good,

655
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: but when when he's not, you know, the team struggles.

656
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: But that's probably the case for most number one receivers.

657
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: I will take the full pack of what we've seen

658
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: from him over twenty five games plus him as a

659
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: person over trying to find that somewhere else. The crazy

660
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: part about it, though, even when you talk about the

661
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: home away splits like he was still a thousand yard receiver.

662
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: Like that's a crazy part about it. He was still

663
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: missing games, not finishing games, and whatever you want to

664
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Speaker 1: say about whether it's injury was he was there all

665
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: season long. It was still a thous yard receiver. And

666
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: I think you know with him and you will you

667
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: can attest to this more than anybody in this room,

668
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: of course, is that when he was looking at other

669
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: other things around the league, other situations, other potential you know, teams,

670
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: he could go to. What better number two receiver is

671
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: there that he could play next too? Because if Michael

672
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: Gallup continues to play the way he is, it's gonna

673
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: be hard for teams to just say, well we just

674
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: got him one on one because he's winning those battles,

675
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: so Cooper could. He's a smart guy, you know, he

676
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: can see all right now, this guy is over here

677
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: doing what he does. It's gonna be hard to get

678
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: double you know, double team meet every play. I actually

679
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: I pissed Keenan Allen off earlier this week because I

680
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: was interested. I went and looked. I was like, you know,

681
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: Cooper's back in the fold. The Cowboys have one of

682
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: six pairs of thousand yard receivers in the league. There's

683
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: only I thought there were only six teams that had him.

684
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: Forgot about the charters. Keenan Allen and Mike Williams both

685
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: had a thousand yards last year too, And Keenan found

686
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: my tweet and what he took up. He took exception

687
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: to it. But it's fine, Okay, there's still only seven

688
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: teams in the league that have it, so you know,

689
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: that's cool. Hold on, hold on, let's let's like dig

690
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: into this a little bit. Now. He did somebody retweet it.

691
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody probably snitch tagged me or something, you

692
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: know how people like to do on Twitter, like, oh, Keenan,

693
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: they're disrespecting you on t It was an honest mistake.

694
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Keenan Allen. I snitch tag Yeah, that's people

695
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: do it all the time on Twitter page to me,

696
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: I'll blocked you all the bag. Yeah, well, people have

697
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: done that with me on this show, for with Dak

698
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: they do it sometimes all the time. It's it's gross,

699
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: but well, I mean I didn't do it on purpose.

700
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: It was an honest mistake. But so it's it's the

701
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Chargers the Cowboys. I don't know why I'm trying to

702
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: do this. I'm not gonna remember all Buffalo now because

703
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: they have Stefon Diggs. Tampa Bay obviously is the big one.

704
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: Oh Buffalo, like Buffalo has Diggs and John Brown, would

705
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: Beasley get I don't know, but it was it was

706
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: John Brown and now Stefon Diggs. I don't remember. It's

707
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: a pretty good three, you know, that's a pretty good

708
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: trio receivers. Oh yeah, and cowboys talking about trios, Cowboys

709
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: obviously had one with Cobb. Now Randall Cobb's gone. But

710
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: you know when when you look at one thing and Dave,

711
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: you and I have talked on the phone more this

712
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: week than we have ever probably, yes, and you despise

713
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: talking on the phone. So it's been we gotta do

714
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You gotta adapt on the fly,

715
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: and yeah, these times, but you know we we talked

716
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: about this before. Yes, when if you were just just

717
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: say before the whole thing, like they're gonna lose Quinn,

718
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna lose cop, They're gonna lose Colins, They're gonna

719
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: lose Heath. You know who else have they lost? Ar Witten?

720
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: You know, you know you look at all those but

721
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, which deal would you have done?

722
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have you wouldn't have done three years twenty

723
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: seven for Cobb. I meant, I meant to bring that

724
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: up with Gerald McCoy too, is I haven't seen the

725
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: terms on MALIEK. Collins and I want to before I

726
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: like make a judgment on that. I wonder how much

727
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: he got. But yeah, no, I said this yesterday on

728
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: the Draft Show. I really thought they were going to

729
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: make a run at Cobb All the writing was on

730
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: the wall that they'd love to have him back. I

731
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: would have been fine with that, And then I saw

732
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: what Bill O'Brien gave him, and I was like, no,

733
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: we're good. No disrespect to Randall Cobb at all, but

734
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: twenty seven million, with twenty of it guaranteed for a turning.

735
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: I believe thirty year old receiver who like he was,

736
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: he was good last year and some drops couldn't quite

737
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: get on the same page with that at all times,

738
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: had hamstring problems coming into his prove it year with

739
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I just I like, I think very highly

740
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: of Randall Coble, but that deal really surprised me. And

741
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: let me just do a quick PSA and there, there's

742
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: just so happened. There's any NFL player that listened to

743
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: this show, or guys aspiring to be NFL players, or

744
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: parents of players who want to be NFL players. Be

745
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: nice to your position and offensive defensive coordinators. Look around

746
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: the league, guys that are getting signed big money, Malique.

747
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: All these guys they're going to play for former coaches,

748
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: guys who guys who are going Guys who are one

749
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: place and coaches get fired or move or make changes.

750
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 1: They always want to bring a guy or two with

751
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: them that knows their system that can be their voice

752
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: in the locker room. But if you are nasty and

753
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: evil to those people, they're not going to look you

754
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: up when they go other places. So just look around

755
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: the league. See all these guys are getting signed, and

756
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: go why why does he get signed there? Oh he

757
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: was Tim over there last year. Oh oh this guy

758
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: with that coach. It happens all across the league. So understand,

759
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: because so smart. What you're saying is is um Mike

760
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Randall Cobb maybe didn't get along so well.

761
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: I think the deal was just too good to dad,

762
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: I think I love you, but no, you're talking about

763
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: give me another five million dollars. They're about to give

764
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: me twenty guarantee. I gotta go. I can't no state

765
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: income taxes. I have to imagine that Randall Cobb was

766
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: pretty surprised. Yeah, maybe he wasn't. I mean, players believe

767
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: in themselves. Players always believe in themselves. But from one

768
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: year five to three years thirty is it's an amazing turner.

769
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 1: And you know, like he call him was like he said,

770
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: wait what God bless Bill O'Brien. I don't know what

771
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: he's doing. Sign it. Let's go, like seriously, like I

772
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: will drive to Houston. I don't need a plane. More

773
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: power to you man. Which obviously, yeah, Cowboys need a

774
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: slot receiver. But that's a situation for him to be

775
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: in because not only is he getting a lot of money,

776
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: but he's now I'm not saying he's the guy replacing

777
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, but you know, somebody's got to catch the

778
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: ball over there. And you know, couldn't you imagine I mean,

779
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys getting rid of. I mean, Zeke is the

780
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: closest thing they have to saying the best player at

781
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: his position maybe Zach Martin, Zack Martin, tyring Zeke. If

782
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: you lost one of those guys and then replaced them

783
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: with just a you know, I mean, Des wasn't Das

784
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys cut him, but they tried to replace

785
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: their best receiver with Alan Horns and a bunch of guys.

786
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Remember remember the guy that they brought into that he

787
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: looks he looked like he was forty five years old. Thompson.

788
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: Good run. But I mean I remember when he signed

789
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: his thing. He signed the contract, we put it out

790
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: there and everybody was like, Who's who's this guy? Is

791
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: his Dad's one of the more blatantly failed experiments in

792
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: recent Cowboys. What happened is no Brown? What is No

793
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: Brown doing? He's still kicking her still, He's still he

794
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: spent the year on I R and he's been around

795
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Speaker 1: the facility. He's still here? Is he? What is that

796
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: project is that? I don't know? Like that was a

797
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, that was one of those pet cats from

798
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Speaker 1: I was. I've I've been riding the Noah Brown train,

799
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Speaker 1: but like with a new coaching staff. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a come to training camp and see what you can

801
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,440
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802
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Giants if he's released by the Cowboys, you can't rule

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Speaker 1: it out. All right, Um, this is probably a record.

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805
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Speaker 1: I got Jesse Holly, David Hellman. I'm Nick Keepman here.

845
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: This is the first time we've worked together. It's just

846
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: pretty good, your little tar Heel. So you were talked

847
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: a little bit about that. You said basketball, you played basketball,

848
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: but obviously football too. How many basketball games did you

849
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: play in though? I mean, would you played like a

850
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: whole season? Yeah, I was like the seventh guy off

851
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: the bench. He was on a natty team national championship. Yeah,

852
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: a SEC regular season champions and Mary champions. Marvin Williams

853
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: played pretty well the number twenty four. But we don't

854
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: get to the a SEC championship game. Not to make

855
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: light of a worldwide catastrophe, but kind of bailed the

856
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: tar Heels out of having their worst season ever too. Man,

857
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: can't be enough that they don't have, right, Yeah, there

858
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: you go. We'll say they weren't gonna win the tournament

859
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: and go and go in there we had already lost,

860
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: well we had lost in Syracuse and a SEC champion. Yeah,

861
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: they were were to tournament. They weren't going, but like,

862
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: just nobody's thinking about it now now. So dude tweeted

863
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: out like they were withdrawing their team from THENCE to

864
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: day be town him and I tweet I was like,

865
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: I think UNC should do the same thing. So, yeah,

866
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: we've took one on the chin this year. It's okay.

867
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: Once every twenty five years is fine. You're still You're

868
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: still on the National Championship high. Well might it might

869
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: be the only sport that happens in twenty twenty. I'm

870
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: on the National Championship high Arkansas won it twenty six

871
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: years ago. I still I watched the highlights on that

872
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: all the time. It's awesome, all right, dak he I mean,

873
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: franchise tag. Everyone knew this would happen. But do you

874
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: think that that it's hurt this team when you look

875
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: at free agency to like that it got to this

876
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: point that thirty three million dollars they still have to

877
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: sign them if they could have gotten this still done,

878
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: do we see some of these other players maybe that

879
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: have left that are still here. Do we believe that

880
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: having Dak under contract would change their philosophy because like,

881
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: even with Dak on the tag, it's and that I'm

882
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: not here to tell you Byron Jones isn't good. That's

883
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: a separate conversation. But like the Cowboys didn't value him

884
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: at sixteen and a half million dollars. If they did,

885
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: they could have gotten that deal done. That's the thing,

886
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: is like, even with Dak on the tag, they have

887
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 1: this money anyway. Yeah, And the same thing. I think,

888
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, they probably liked Robert Quinn at like nine

889
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: to twelve million. I don't know whatever the number is,

890
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: but I think the Bears blew that out of the water.

891
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: So like, I don't think these guys would be here

892
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: even if Dak was under contract. I do think it's

893
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: pretty silly that we still don't have a resolution of

894
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: this whole thing when we've known it was heading this

895
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: way since January of last year. Yeah. But do I

896
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: think it would significantly alter their strategy about free agency?

897
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: Not really, No, I don't think so. I'm with you.

898
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. But looking forward, whenever, the

899
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: idea of football getting back to normal business with OTAs

900
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. I think this may

901
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: ultimately hurt this team because who's to say that Dak's

902
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: going to show up to be a part of these activities.

903
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: And I know that the offense is still kind of

904
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: the same with Kellen Moore. Maybe the language of it changes,

905
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: but there's still a level of continue that needs to

906
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: be had during the off season. Right now, guys aren't

907
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 1: working out together. Guys aren't here working out. There aren't

908
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: probably anywhere working out. So you have a guy who

909
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: may miss an extended period of time with a new

910
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: coach coming in trying to get all the systems in

911
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: the language and the verbiage and his thought philosophy on

912
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: how we're going to do things where the ball is

913
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: going to go, all that kind of stuff, and he's

914
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: not being here. Those things to me matter more than

915
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: what it would have been as far as if he

916
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: was signing. What we've done in free agency, maybe you

917
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: spend more out you know, just human nature. When you

918
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: got a little bit more extra money in your pocket.

919
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: You know, when you get that bonus, you know things

920
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: that you might have gotten before. You see, like you

921
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: know what, you know, I'll pay the extra twenty dollars

922
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: for that shirt because I got a bonus. It's Friday,

923
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: feel good, you know, so, But I think future wise,

924
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: this may hurt this football team, and it puts it

925
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: puts Mike McCarthy kind of almost behind the a ball

926
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: trying to get his offense installed. It isn't that kind

927
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: of what the DAK and his agent are hoping for

928
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: that they can kind of, hey, you know, kind of

929
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: push the envelope a little bit and say, yeah, we

930
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: know this is a strain, so pony up. I mean,

931
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: this is what we're asking for. And if he does,

932
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: that's why people will hold out in the first place.

933
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 1: And if you just hold out, you know, if Tom

934
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: Brady were to ever hold out in the seventeenth year

935
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: of his career, it's like, all right, he knows the

936
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: system back to the back of his hand. But if

937
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: Dak does it this year, he knows that it's going

938
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: to be a problem. So maybe that forces a cowboy's hand,

939
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: which I know were I know the point of this

940
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: is we're trying to escape the realities of the world.

941
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: But I think this whole thing with the pandemic really

942
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: throws an interesting wrench into this whole thing, because yeah,

943
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: i'd be right there with you. I'm like team reports

944
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: for the offseason on April six Dac needs to be here.

945
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, the salary cap is gonna balloon, and the

946
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys need to do what they need to do, like

947
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: he needs to be here for the whole offseason if

948
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: they expect to be successful offseason programs and definitely suspended

949
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: right now, there's no you know, April sixth is not

950
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: currently the report date, and we don't know when OTAs

951
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: and mini camp are going to happen. I don't think

952
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: anything meaningful has happened with training camp yet. But but

953
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: doesn't that make it even more imperative. Well, I mean

954
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: because if we don't know whenever they do give the go,

955
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: that's a great point. Whatever they do is say, okay,

956
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: go right. You know everyone's gonna be scrambling, Hey we're

957
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: here the next couple of days. Let's get here, and

958
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: that's gonna be like yeah, I honestly I'm not going

959
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: to be That is an amazing point, and I my

960
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: brain hadn't gotten that far yet. But you're right, it'll

961
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: probably be a lot like the lockout from twenty eleven,

962
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: where something, you know, something clicks and ten days later,

963
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: let's go. But I'll tell you this, Even during that lockout,

964
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: because I was a part of that lockout, the Cowboys,

965
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, Jason Whitt and guys like that, we worked

966
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: out every day even though we couldn't be here. We

967
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: worked out in South Lake almost three or four times

968
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: a week. So while we couldn't be here doing stuff,

969
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: we were still together. We were still putting in the work.

970
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: Guys were still showing up, conditioning, getting stuff in. Defensive

971
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: guys were there. DeMarcus Ware was there. All those guys

972
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: were there putting in the work. Who was the coach

973
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: of that of putting that stuff together? Yeah, on the field,

974
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: organizing is what we're gonna do next, that kind of stuff,

975
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: I would say offensively. It was a lot of John

976
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: Kittna and Tony Romo at that time. Yeah. Yeah, Witton

977
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: was out there too. He was out there. Well, yeah,

978
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: Waitten was out there, wasn't he. Nick is applying something

979
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm like, I'm all right, I'm really not.

980
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: Remembers that your tone of voice made me think you

981
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: were about to be a point, Like, yeah, I remember,

982
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: it serves me correctly. They wouldn't apply anything. You know,

983
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: we were we were all. Roy Williams was out there,

984
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Crayton was out there. Guys like that, Sam Hurt,

985
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: like all the guys that were that were this significant guys. Well,

986
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: this is a really good point. Is like it almost

987
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: might be more important because you don't know when all

988
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: of this stuff is going to click into place. And also,

989
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: Brady James was running for the defense. If Dak was

990
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: under contract, he would probably be doing something similar. You know,

991
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: he takes his guys to Orlando every summer and he

992
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: gets these guys together. I don't know if he's gonna

993
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: be doing as much of that until he has a contract.

994
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: We'll see. But but into your to what you were saying,

995
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: you couple him are having a contract, and we're in

996
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: this global pandemic with this, you know, social distancing and

997
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: not being around one another. So guys might be saying

998
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: because we don't know if some people may have you know,

999
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: people who are in their family who have compromise immune system,

1000
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: who may have young children and they're like, listen, dude,

1001
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: I want to be there, but you know, my girl

1002
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: has no spleen, or my mom who lives with me

1003
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: doesn't have this whatever, or I have young newborn children.

1004
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: I really can't risk hanging out with you guys for

1005
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: a week at a time and then coming home and

1006
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: possibly because let's beyond as we're being totally honest, if

1007
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: they just let's just say, Dax says, come on, guys,

1008
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: we're going to Orlando. You think guys are going on

1009
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: the football field and then going to quarantine into their

1010
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: hotel rooms. No no, no, no, no, no no, no no,

1011
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen that way. They're gonna go out

1012
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: right whatever's open. They're gonna try to find some way

1013
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: to have some sort of fun, whether it's a beach

1014
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: or something. They're gonna and a cowboy. So you know

1015
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: that also means, hey, I make a phone call. I

1016
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: know the bar shut down, but the cowboys in town.

1017
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: Can we come in and have dinner? Can we? That's

1018
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: a realistic thing. It puts a really interesting wrench into

1019
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: like everything that happens in an offseason. I do, and

1020
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: I wonder, though, like how much of this is going

1021
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: to be about economics versus like principle, because that's the

1022
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 1: thing I keep going back to as well, is well,

1023
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: the new CBA that just got passed by thirty two

1024
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: votes or whatever it was. You know, everybody keeps telling

1025
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: me that the salary cap is about the skyrocket, like,

1026
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, could go up by like forty percent in

1027
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: the next two years. It's hard to know for sure,

1028
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: but it's going it's you know, it's usually a ten

1029
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: percent in price. They're projecting way higher leaps. So if

1030
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: you got to throw DAK a little extra money, does

1031
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: it really matter? That might And that's another point to

1032
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, is like that deal will be a bargain

1033
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: in no time, right, And almost anything you could sign

1034
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: DAK too would probably be a bargain in no time

1035
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: espect like if the salary cap shoots up and Patrick

1036
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Deshaun Watson come up for new contracts, which

1037
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: they already are, and those guys, you know we're talking

1038
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: about forty maybe those guys are signing for like forty five,

1039
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: especially Mahomes, and all of a sudden, it's like, well,

1040
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe we paid DAK thirty eight million a year,

1041
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: but then eighteen months from now it looks silly. So

1042
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: that's something that I keep thinking about, is they can

1043
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: probably afford to do whatever they need to do. It's

1044
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: just are they willing to lose the negotias frustrating party, Dak.

1045
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, are we serious here? Like I've outplayed any

1046
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: expectation that you had for me. Remember four or five

1047
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: years ago, he was behind Kellen Moore. He had to

1048
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: have Tony go down and Kelly Moore break an ankle

1049
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: for him to get an opportunity to even get some

1050
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: reps in practice, and you got You haven't until this year.

1051
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: You just paid me two million dollars this year for

1052
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: one year, like you got a jew got a severe

1053
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: discount for the last four seasons. I don't even know

1054
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: why I'm even having to deal with a franchise tag

1055
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: and possibly not showing up because the discount that you

1056
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: are talking about, you got it for the last four

1057
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: years because you didn't think I was going to be

1058
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: what I actually turned out to be and saved your tails.

1059
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: I saved your tails because you had no plan. There

1060
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: was no plan in place after Tony Romo went down.

1061
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: There was no plan in place after Keller Moore went down.

1062
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: I actually came in and while I may not have

1063
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: given you the Super Bowl steps that you wanted, I

1064
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: kept this thing from really sinking and going way left

1065
00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: and gave you something to sell to the people going forward. Well,

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00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: what wonder is is what was on the table last

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00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: year in the in the off season. What could he

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00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: have signed for thirty one, thirty two? I feel like

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00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: those numbers were out there. Yeah. What I wonder is,

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00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: let's say there was a thirty two and he didn't

1071
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: take it now and he played for two, So theoretically

1072
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: he lost thirty theoretically. I know that they do the

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00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: contracts a little differently, but you know, he was gonna

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00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: make he could make thirty two and he made two.

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00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: Is he gonna Is he gonna get that back? Is

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00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: he gonna get that back? Thirty millions by this bigger deal?

1077
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get that bad? I mean, think about it.

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00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: What if he gets thirty seven, You've still got to

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00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: get you know, a six year deal to get you know,

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00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: five million more to make up the thirty. I just

1081
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: think I think he made a mistake by Yeah, but

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00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: if you if you do thirty last year on the

1083
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: front end, and you pro rate that through the course

1084
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: of a contract, he's not having to make up that

1085
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: thirty because he would have been if he signed last

1086
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: year right for thirty and then two years from now,

1087
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: guys are getting forty and he's still only getting thirty something.

1088
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: He could theoretically be missing that on the back, he's

1089
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: missing the end. Get on this one right, will make

1090
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: up for whatever you I soon did. He missed that

1091
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: front part of it. You know, I know what you're saying,

1092
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: but I just feel like if you would have done,

1093
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: if you I'm always about starting the clock, and that's

1094
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: why I was with Zeke. Start the clock, get get

1095
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: be twenty twenty eight or twenty nine. When you're able

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00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: to get another one. That's what I'm saying, start the clock,

1097
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: get a deal, get another one when all this is going,

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00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: and I still think the difference. Let's say he's making

1099
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: thirty eight in five years, maybe he's not the starter,

1100
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: maybe he is, Maybe he only makes thirty or whatever.

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00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be as much of a

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00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: drop as it was from going from two to thirty.

1103
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: It's I don't know. I'm already getting myself tired here.

1104
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: I definitely I at least somewhat follow your line of logic.

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00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: And again, I think a big part of this comes

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00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: down to principle too, where it's a you know, maybe

1107
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: on das part, but also his representation, like it's a

1108
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: pride thing, like we want to set a deal that's

1109
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna make us look badass. And the cowboys, to your point,

1110
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: are like, well, we'll pay you, We'll pay you thirty four.

1111
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: But like let's be real, like have you accomplished what

1112
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: thirty eight entails? And like I feel like that is

1113
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: the difference of opinion. Yeah, and I don't know who

1114
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: wins that argument, but the math on two to thirty two.

1115
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: Don't ask me to do math. But if if four

1116
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: is like two hundred percent, right, so we're talking like,

1117
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean fifteen hundred percent from two to you know

1118
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: something like that. That what my point is is that

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00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: if you would have taken that, then you start the

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00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: clock when you get a new deal, whether you go

1121
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: up or down, it's not going to be fifteen hundred

1122
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: percent of a difference, right, That's all I'm saying. But

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00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: it was it was in everybody's best interest to get

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: this thing done the week after Carson Wentz signed his

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00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: and it could have signed him two years ago for

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,479
Speaker 1: like twenty something. Well they could not too year because

1127
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't eligible until half until January. But it's I mean,

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00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think any one party is purely

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00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: to blame. I think it's always you know, some of

1130
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: it's on the team, some of it's on the player. Money, money, money,

1131
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: and we've got I just want him to sort it out.

1132
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: We've got two minutes left to talk about one of

1133
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: the first ones that they did, and this is a

1134
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: contract that you know, it's not what have you done,

1135
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: it's what do we think you're going to do? And

1136
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: that's Blake Jarwin. Uh wow, damn. Now, I actually so happy.

1137
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm so happy. Why I'm so happy. I think I

1138
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: am a fan of Blake Jarwin. I think given the

1139
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: opportunity he's going to and I'm not saying they'll be

1140
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: the next Antonio Gates, but I think he has the

1141
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: ability to give this team a legit middle of the

1142
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: field seem threat. I do. I think I think he

1143
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: had that ability. And that's just what I'm seeing from

1144
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: a small sample size. I'm glad that they finally turn

1145
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: the page away from Jason Witten. Nothing against Jason Witten.

1146
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: He's a future Hall of Famer. I just got stopped

1147
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: trying to stop that that that that dog is dead.

1148
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sorry. That's I'm sorry that that has

1149
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: been for a while and and we we we there's

1150
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the charterned person of Jason Whitten.

1151
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: I love him as a man. I think he's a

1152
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: great due. But at some point time you had to

1153
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: turn the page and they kept like it was like,

1154
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: thank you. The phrasing caught me off guard. But I

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00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: agree with your overall point, and I in a small

1156
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: sample size, I looked this up. When he signed thirty

1157
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: seven percent of the snaps, you know through I think

1158
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: he had three hundred and sixty yards plays down the seam.

1159
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: He made the only offensive play of the entire Saints

1160
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: game down the seam. We Week one against the Giants touchdown.

1161
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: Had a great yak play against the Giants in New Jersey,

1162
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: you know, caught it on like the thirty yard line

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: and somehow managed to score as a tight end. That's

1164
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Yeah, I just his athletic. He want to

1165
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: see coops and you want to see uh Michael Gauss

1166
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: numbers go up. Yeah, start having a guy that can

1167
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: legitimately hold that safety down the middle, and then you

1168
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: can start pushing the ball down the field on the

1169
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: side and also maybe and not to say Blake Jarwin

1170
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: can't block. He can, but like, don't try to pretend

1171
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: that he's prime. Jason Whitten either, like get him off

1172
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: the line is a dead And that's that's one thing

1173
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: that that if you want to say, well can he block,

1174
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: can he do that like Jason Witten did? Got to

1175
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: remember this offense I think is going to be different

1176
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: with what the tight ends actually and Jason wouldn't suck

1177
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: the last two or three years blocking. Sorry, no he wasn't. No,

1178
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: I said prime. Right, I'm just saying yeah, and those

1179
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: those tight end blocking days, right, this is this is

1180
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: not what that offense is going to be. And if

1181
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: you look at what McCarthy's offenses were, those the fullback

1182
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: blocks a lot more. I don't know if Jama's OLDI

1183
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Walt is the answer there. They did sign him, but

1184
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: I think if there are old school type fullbacks, maybe

1185
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: some in the draft, I don't know if there's any,

1186
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: Like the offenses don't really have that that much um,

1187
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: but I could see that kind of fit for the

1188
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys as well, because to get the wham the nose

1189
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: type blocking at the line. I think you'll see that

1190
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: from the fullback, and your tight ends will be spread

1191
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: out a little bit more. So That's why it's that's

1192
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: why Jarwin would fit more in this office, and that's

1193
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: why Witten doesn't. Yeah, you know, I'm not Yeah, I'm

1194
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: not saying he's Travis Kelsey, but I'm I'm very optimistic

1195
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: about what Blake Jarwin can be. If he's getting seventy

1196
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps, it can be a five six

1197
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: hundred yard four or five touchdown a year. Dude, still

1198
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: drafting one tight end? Uh? Not early? Like, I mean,

1199
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't love this tight end class anyway, but if

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01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: there was a guy there round, I wouldn't even want

1201
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: to do round three day day three day three. Seven

1202
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: hundred yards for Jarwin, easy, easy, That's not easy. That's

1203
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: after like a thousand for Cooper. Over time, there's a

1204
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: lot of yards to go around. I mean for Cooper.

1205
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: You gotta remember, yeah, Dak is getting I mean I

1206
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: took the step last year he had how many yards

1207
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: he had He was ninety yards from being a four

1208
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: thousand yard passer. Correct, five thousand yard pass Yeah? All right.

1209
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: You gotta remember though that. Now, take every snap that

1210
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: Jason went and played in, every catch that he had

1211
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: that was a five yard catch and it was a

1212
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: five yard game. And now take those same catches and

1213
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: equate him to Blake jar and it is at least

1214
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: a five yard catch and a nine or ten or

1215
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: twelve yard game. I don't want to Dak throwing for

1216
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: five thousand yards. If he those for five thousand yards,

1217
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. That's that's the name of the game

1218
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: now now, but it's the name of the it's the

1219
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: name of a of a if an average to bad team.

1220
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston had more than that, and he didn't have

1221
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: a job right now, Like I think that if you're

1222
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: throwing the ball all the game, all the time, that

1223
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: means you're not winning. I mean, Drakeman never had those

1224
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: because Emmett had those yards, so I don't. I mean, yeah,

1225
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: but that was also a personnel of twenty one, and well,

1226
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: I get if they're you know, if they're not. If

1227
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: if Dak can actually have the lead and you know,

1228
01:01:58,560 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: and they could run the ball a little bit more.

1229
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to throw for five thousand yards.

1230
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: I think forty two three and that's cool, but let's

1231
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: less could be more in that sense, I still I

1232
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: still take how many tuchses to wait and have to hear?

1233
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: Sixty sounds about right, So I take those sixty and

1234
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: I want to multiply whatever the number was by a percentage.

1235
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: I just think, I just think the yak with Blake

1236
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: John like his ability to separate and to actually catch

1237
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: it and run it after he gets I'm just saying

1238
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard with Ceedee Lamb in the slot

1239
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: in addition to call up and who sing it with

1240
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: Roles going to death? Isn't it? Oh? Stop? All right?

1241
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: We could end on that. All right. It's been fun.

1242
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: It's been a fun hour and some change there. We'll

1243
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: see you guys next Wednesday, and I think we'll be

1244
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: back in order here and with our full crew, and

1245
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: Derek and Ambers should be back with us. But for this,

1246
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: want you want me back next week? Well, I think

1247
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna be back. You're gonna be hanging. Come back

1248
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: whenever you want hanging with your boys over there, all right?

1249
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: For Jesse, Holly, David Helman, I'm nicky man. Thanks to

1250
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: everybody in the back for making this wouldn't work. We'll

1251
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: see you guys next time on the break. This has

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01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,360
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