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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. This episode, my
Speaker 2: friend Michael Malice is back. You all get very excited
Speaker 2: when he is here to hang out. He is insightful,
Speaker 2: he is irreverend. He is feisty for a guy his size.
Speaker 2: You never guess.
Speaker 1: That's right, Big dudes can be fight Is that a
Speaker 1: thing you know?
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just started off right here on the
Speaker 2: right foot.
Speaker 1: Cat a big guy be feisty. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I think only little guys can be feisty.
Speaker 1: Right, you can't be feisty if you're big. It doesn't read.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying you're feisty for Oh, I see what
Speaker 2: you're saying? All right?
Speaker 1: Whatever?
Speaker 2: Fun look at if he even blunts my feisty comment.
Speaker 2: So where should everyone go?
Speaker 1: First?
Speaker 2: Off, Michael to see to see your latest work? Where
Speaker 2: can they follow you before we jump into.
Speaker 1: Wall litter dot com slash Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well fine, telling them to promote me or
Speaker 2: you can check out Michael Malice and stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it seems to.
Speaker 2: Me that we have a dementia patient who has been
Speaker 2: president for four years.
Speaker 1: That's now.
Speaker 2: I think that's not established, right, that's not actually, that's
Speaker 2: not hyperbole. It's not Everyone agrees on this, and they
Speaker 2: forced us to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I feel mean because he wasn't getting treated. So he's
Speaker 1: not a patient dementia fishonado, He's a dementia connoisseur. Come on, dude, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not a patient. No one's treating him.
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, hold on. To be fair, there was
Speaker 2: the neurologist that happened to suddenly go to the White
Speaker 2: House six times or whatever. Remember Alex Berenston broke that
Speaker 2: and the New York Times stole it from him. So okay,
Speaker 2: but I see your point.
Speaker 1: Technically, technically everything's fine with the president. See you next year.
Speaker 2: Technically Biden is doing he's doing like homeopathic remedies for
Speaker 2: his dementia. So anyway, that's what's you know, he's taking
Speaker 2: some tinctures and some.
Speaker 1: Apparently the cure for dementia is Chinese money. Who knew?
Speaker 1: Who knew?
Speaker 2: Who knew? So he's still the president too, which I
Speaker 2: mean I thought we were. Actually I didn't think we
Speaker 2: were in a serious country anymore, but you know, we
Speaker 2: used to think we were. Maybe that's going on now.
Speaker 2: It seems that if they can make Kamala Harris president,
Speaker 2: my theory to you, I want to just put this
Speaker 2: to you and let you on with it. Michael, if
Speaker 2: they can do that, if they can make Kamala president,
Speaker 2: they can make anyone president, and that it's just the
Speaker 2: machine and that nothing else matters.
Speaker 1: Well, Okay, first of all, everyone watching this will agree
Speaker 1: that Biden did in twenty twenty. It was the Democratic
Speaker 1: machine and it was anti Trump. There weren't Biden fans.
Speaker 1: It was just people who are like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: vote for the Democrat, whoever it is. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to vote for Trump. If Fetterman could get elected, anyone
Speaker 1: could get elected, right. Number one. Number two is you
Speaker 1: and I both would agree that Nancy Pelosi understands politics
Speaker 1: better than either of us, how Washington really works. And
Speaker 1: we also would agree that whatever information we have, she has,
Speaker 1: and she has some more so if she's saying something
Speaker 1: and I'm saying something else, like I'm missing something and
Speaker 1: I'm missing something with this nominee, this nominee from Netflix,
Speaker 1: because she couldn't even make Iowa when she tried her
Speaker 1: entire like Hillary Clinton with a lot of negatives. People
Speaker 1: went to jail for Hillary Clinton. Like people refuse to
Speaker 1: testify against her, maybe for fear for their lives, but
Speaker 1: they ride or die with her Kamala Harris. Her office
Speaker 1: is like a sieve. People are leaking all the time
Speaker 1: about what a horror show she is. So I don't
Speaker 1: see how they're excited or why she was their plan. B.
Speaker 1: It's not making sense to me. And with something's not
Speaker 1: making sense to me, that tells me I'm missing something.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. Well I'm not exact on the numbers,
Speaker 2: but you know that of the roughly forty people in
Speaker 2: the Vice President's office that are that are like specifically
Speaker 2: working for the vice president on her staff, five of
Speaker 2: them were there in the beginning. She's gone from about
Speaker 2: forty down to five who have It's not like it's
Speaker 2: been that long. It's hasn't even been four years yet, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that tells you a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm also curious if the speech writers hate her, because
Speaker 1: if you read her speeches, it reads like she's reading
Speaker 1: bedtime stories to like wheelchair kids because she's like space
Speaker 1: is around us and connects us and it's important, but
Speaker 1: we need rules. It's like I've done professional like ghost writing.
Speaker 1: You don't write like that if you like the person.
Speaker 1: You write like that if you want to set them
Speaker 1: up to be an idiot and they're too stupid to
Speaker 1: realize the difference.
Speaker 2: Yes, Like if somebody, say, had ghost written a book
Speaker 2: for someone about meeting Kim Jung un in person during
Speaker 2: a congressional delegation that was. And then just so you know, Michael,
Speaker 2: if you get caught in your memoir saying you met
Speaker 2: personally physically with Kim Jung oun and stared him down,
Speaker 2: if anyone points that out, then you're supposed to go
Speaker 2: on TV and say I won't talk about my meetings
Speaker 2: with world leaders.
Speaker 1: The best.
Speaker 2: That was the best. That was one of my favorite
Speaker 2: political moments the entire year. It was honestly, like you know,
Speaker 2: it's instead of just saying I'm sorry, I was lazy,
Speaker 2: ghost right or whatever. It was defiance.
Speaker 1: Do you know what it was? She shot that dog
Speaker 1: because the dog do too much.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, dog jokes. I like dogs. He's gonna get me.
Speaker 2: This is what happens. Michael gets me in trouble. He
Speaker 2: starts saying things. He starts being sassy. No, you're just
Speaker 2: not with me. But you offend the audience and they're like,
Speaker 2: why did you let him say that. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know. He's Michael Malice.
Speaker 1: I just can't. She's the one who killed the dog.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I know people get very people get
Speaker 2: very sensitive about dog stuff. They should I agree. I
Speaker 2: thought it was terrible.
Speaker 1: That was to me.
Speaker 2: That was the end. And there were people who were
Speaker 2: doing the whole yeah. Well she was going on TV like, well,
Speaker 2: we're on the ranch, that's how we do things. I
Speaker 2: was like, come on, and then the Kim Jong Un
Speaker 2: thing happened. Anyway, I know it's all it's all rear
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Speaker 1: The more I hear about him, the more I like him.
Speaker 1: Because when you start, if you follow his journey, he
Speaker 1: starts out as really like the worst kind of Republican.
Speaker 1: I'm going to vote for Evan McMuffin, I don't trust
Speaker 1: Trump blah blah blah. And as time goes on, he's
Speaker 1: clearly become radicalized, as many people on the right have become.
Speaker 1: As recently as twenty twenty. I went through all his
Speaker 1: old tweets because, unlike journalists, actually like doing my research.
Speaker 1: And he's saying things like, oh, turns out the Minnesota
Speaker 1: governor saying a lot of these riots are caused by
Speaker 1: outside agitators. Then like five minutes later goes, huh, the
Speaker 1: Minnesota governor overestimated the number of people who are outside agitators.
Speaker 1: I wonder how he got the numbers wrong. And he
Speaker 1: wasn't being sarcastic. But now, and especially Buck, as you
Speaker 1: and I know that the corporate press is the end
Speaker 1: of people. You can't put anything past them. They've started
Speaker 1: going after his wife, like immediately, and when you start
Speaker 1: immediately going after people's family, remember when they said that
Speaker 1: Ron Destantis should quit because he took a day to
Speaker 1: help his wife with their cancer treatments, Like, there's no
Speaker 1: low these people won't sink to. I think when you
Speaker 1: see that start happening, he realized, Oh, okay, I'm in
Speaker 1: for a fight. These people aren't playing around. Trump obviously
Speaker 1: almost recently got assassinated, like this is serious business. And
Speaker 1: that recent quote just made me fall in love with
Speaker 1: him when he said that the Democratic Party is made
Speaker 1: up of childless cat ladies like AOCP, Buddha Jetche and
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. I'm like, all right, this is my guy.
Speaker 1: So Trump did not have a big bench to choose from,
Speaker 1: because anyone who's running for Trump is going to have
Speaker 1: their life try to be destroyed. So as far as
Speaker 1: the people he had to pick from him or Bergham,
Speaker 1: I think would have probably been the best bet. And
Speaker 1: the more I see advance, the better he seems to get,
Speaker 1: and I think he'd do great in a debate.
Speaker 2: Do you think that we are seeing a at a
Speaker 2: very macro level, even beyond just this election cycle? Are
Speaker 2: we seeing a course correction a bit as a nation
Speaker 2: from where we were with the madness of COVID everything.
Speaker 2: I remember you and I we're talking about that at
Speaker 2: the time. I did your show a few times. Haven't
Speaker 2: been invited back in a while. I'm just saying, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what that's all about. But
Speaker 2: you know, somebody gets somebody does Rogan three or four times,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, like the little people, you know,
Speaker 2: we get left behind.
Speaker 1: Eight eight times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just throwing that out there anyway, But back
Speaker 2: to the course correction, it feels to me like things
Speaker 2: did actually get like the left did go so insane
Speaker 2: that there's a solid majority of the country now that
Speaker 2: is walking away from that stuff in meaningful ways. And
Speaker 2: I think the Elon Musk and the Silicon Valley stuff
Speaker 2: is a part of that.
Speaker 1: I can prove you correct in one sentence or two
Speaker 1: sentences two years ago. If you said Trump kind of sucks,
Speaker 1: I don't like him, he should have been president, you're
Speaker 1: a Trump supporter because unless you say Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: the worst thing that's ever happened to America, you're treated
Speaker 1: as a Trump supporter. You have to at all times
Speaker 1: say he's the worst thing ever. From Mark Zuckerberg, who
Speaker 1: as a big Democratic donor Facebook is very heavily left
Speaker 1: leaning in terms of left leaning left the line in
Speaker 1: terms of their ideology, for him to go on TV
Speaker 1: and call Trump awesome, to praise Trump at all, and
Speaker 1: not to have his entire life ruined shows a sea change.
Speaker 1: Support for Donald Trump has become normalized, which if this
Speaker 1: was three years ago, you and I would have thought
Speaker 1: that will never happen, or it won't happen as long
Speaker 1: as he's in the arena, you know, like George W.
Speaker 1: Bush now is okay to support him now that he's
Speaker 1: long gone. So that is a massive sea change. And
Speaker 1: the other point I want to make to you and
Speaker 1: encourage your audience, Conservatives don't know how to take a
Speaker 1: win when something like this happens. The New York Times
Speaker 1: isn't going to point it out, and then conservatives don't
Speaker 1: notice it and they just go on thinking, well, we're
Speaker 1: never going to take a win. This is a win.
Speaker 1: Like own it and think about how you got this
Speaker 1: win and build on it.
Speaker 2: You know, Elon said something very profound I forget. I
Speaker 2: think it was actually on a battylon Be podcast, but
Speaker 2: I can't remember now exactly. It was a while ago,
Speaker 2: but he said that that what's happened to Silicon Valley,
Speaker 2: which had the most left wing politics really Bay Area, right,
Speaker 2: San Francisco Bay Area's where Silicon Valley the same thing
Speaker 2: most progressive politics in the entire United States and became
Speaker 2: the most culturally dominant, richest center of influence in the
Speaker 2: entire nation in a very rapid You know, people talk
Speaker 2: about Wall Street money like Silicon Valley money and our
Speaker 2: politics and everything blows Wall Street money out of the water,
Speaker 2: and how that has really infused itself into our politics
Speaker 2: in a way that's I think very damaging. He thinks
Speaker 2: is very damaging too. But when he said recently he
Speaker 2: was talking to Jordan Peterson about how the trans agenda
Speaker 2: stole his son from him, it feels like Elon has
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. He has been red
Speaker 2: pilled in the most profound way, which is the when
Speaker 2: they go after your family, which is what they've done.
Speaker 1: Didn't they say killed? He always said killed.
Speaker 2: I think he yeah. I think he might have said
Speaker 2: that his son has gone or he killed his son,
Speaker 2: because then they go with.
Speaker 1: That something that goes with what you're saying, which is
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley is going to be very overrepresented with white
Speaker 1: males who are pretty high on the spectrum. And then
Speaker 1: when they're building these companies and they're working twenty hours
Speaker 1: a day and now they're being demonized and told to
Speaker 1: hire people simply on the base of their gender or
Speaker 1: skin characteristics. When these people are so logical. They're only
Speaker 1: looking at resumes. They don't even regard to the people
Speaker 1: as humans all at all, but as inputs into a
Speaker 1: system they're building that is going to cause a huge
Speaker 1: amount of backlash. We saw that with James de Moore
Speaker 1: when he was trying to have that paper he wrote
Speaker 1: for Google try and hypothesize why there's a gender disparity
Speaker 1: in terms of hiring outcomes, and he was basically called
Speaker 1: the white supremacist Nazi when he's just looking. I met him.
Speaker 1: This guy is basically a robot. So for him to
Speaker 1: be accused of these horrific things just because he's using
Speaker 1: his extremely logical brain to try to figure a problem
Speaker 1: speaks to a blowback in their faces. Mark and Dreesen
Speaker 1: is another one. He publicly came out and saying I'm
Speaker 1: in the Trump train and he's not being destroyed either.
Speaker 1: So this could not have happened the idea. Remember, people
Speaker 1: were losing their companies because they refused to have the
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter logo on their Instagram. The guy from CrossFit,
Speaker 1: which is the nation's biggest gay exercise organization, said We're
Speaker 1: about exercise. We have nothing to do with politics. He
Speaker 1: got ruined because he said something very true. We're not
Speaker 1: about politics, which is about getting people into shape and
Speaker 1: getting them injured. So that is a big sea change
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and did you see Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: came out against Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: I did see a headline about that. What's that all about?
Speaker 2: Because she was raising money for me.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, the second they got inaugurated, they
Speaker 1: were public complaining that they couldn't get their calls returned,
Speaker 1: which was hilarious. They wouldn't even have like some perfunctory meeting.
Speaker 1: And now they tweet, they go, this is not democratic,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous, and it's disgraced to all the voters
Speaker 1: that you basically take for granted. So it's a wonderful
Speaker 1: thing that's happening in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: I'amaa betrayed Kamala use Black Lives Matter to get in
Speaker 2: and then betrayed Black Lives Matter once she got it, right.
Speaker 2: I mean that's basically how that went and.
Speaker 1: The whole party because they're like, yeah, you know, we're
Speaker 1: just going to give it to her who got no votes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that for I want to ask
Speaker 2: you if the last thing I have for you, Michael.
Speaker 2: We only have a few minutes. But last thing I
Speaker 2: have for you is to tackle this notion of the
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Speaker 2: Biden even said it in his farewell speech when he
Speaker 2: wasn't just kind of mumbling nonsense. Does that work anymore?
Speaker 2: Is it going to work in this election?
Speaker 1: Yes, because when they mean democracy, they mean their control.
Speaker 1: So when they say Trump is a threat to our democracy,
Speaker 1: they mean threats. Trumps a threat to our control, which
Speaker 1: is true. So that is the term is absolutely nebulous
Speaker 1: its meaning, and that is the kind of subtext that
Speaker 1: they mean, and their voters will fall for it, hook
Speaker 1: line and sinker. To a point, you can always start
Speaker 1: with what like about thirty eight percent people vote Democrat
Speaker 1: no matter who it is, so that's not a small number.
Speaker 1: But in terms of you know, getting her across the
Speaker 1: Finch line, it's really funny watching the corporate propaganda MSNBC, CNN.
Speaker 1: Republicans are freaking out the hill right now is like
Speaker 1: they couldn't even the best they could say is Kamala's
Speaker 1: gaining steam in these swing stays. She's still behind, but
Speaker 1: not behind as much. If you have your big launch
Speaker 1: and you're starting behind, by all accounts, the more people
Speaker 1: who listen to her like her less. It happened when
Speaker 1: she got inaugurated, it happened during the campaign in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be hilarious watching it collapse over
Speaker 1: the next two months.
Speaker 2: I just would would you? How do you feel about
Speaker 2: this assertion? Kamala Harris's primery, constituency, media executives, and DEI officials.
Speaker 1: Someone had a great meme of Rotten Tomatoes. Critics eighty
Speaker 1: seven percent approval, audience thirteen percent approval. That's She's like
Speaker 1: an arthouse film.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, that is. That's That's what I
Speaker 2: was getting at. But I completely agree with that. Go
Speaker 2: check out Michael Mouse's show You're Welcome, which is fantastic.
Speaker 2: He even occasionally has the amazing guest Buck sexon on
Speaker 2: occasionally once every five years, because you know that's all right.
Speaker 2: You know he can give you a rough tie, buddy.
Speaker 2: You know he made me sit on his show once
Speaker 2: in a chair that was so small that everybody thought
Speaker 2: that I was like truly vertically challenged, you know. So yeah, see,
Speaker 2: we all the audience, they all remember this.
Speaker 1: No one looks at that head and thinks you're vertically
Speaker 1: I just gonna say, we almost got through a whole
Speaker 1: episode without you making fun of my giant head.
Speaker 2: Do you know that I have to order special hats
Speaker 2: for baseball and tennis because they don't fit.
Speaker 1: It's sad. Direct from where you're from.
Speaker 2: All right, everybody go check out Michael Malice. You're welcome. Michael,
Speaker 2: thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.