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Speaker 1: You agree on five dollars?

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Speaker 2: This is a rat.

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Speaker 1: Happy tackle kit. One man, you're saying that humans need

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Speaker 1: fantasy to make life bearable. Humans need fantasy to be human?

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Speaker 1: My goodness, that was good. You guys suppose the best,

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Speaker 1: Less there?

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Speaker 2: What's up everybody, and welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is your post draft edition.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, Chris Raybon, joined as always for

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Speaker 2: my dude, Sean Kerner?

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Speaker 1: Sean, what's going on? What's going on? Happy? Post NFL Draft?

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Speaker 3: It's been absolutely nuts these past couple of weeks, but

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Speaker 3: I feel like we can finally start to build our

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Speaker 3: initial twenty twenty two productions, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just like I'm wondering.

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Speaker 2: I know the draft ended like last week, but has

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Speaker 2: a quarterback been taken yet? Or?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly? That sums up this class.

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Speaker 2: Really quarterbacks, one quarterback, no tight ends in the first round.

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Speaker 2: So if you bet those those unders, you're looking good.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we're gonna get into kind of winners and

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Speaker 2: losers for each position. We're trying to touch on pretty

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Speaker 2: much every pick, at least every Day one and Day

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Speaker 2: could influence fantasy this year, influence your season long drafts

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Speaker 2: and projections and all that good stuff. So let's jump

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Speaker 2: right into it, and let's start at quarterback. Sean, who's

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Speaker 2: your big winner here at the quarterback position coming out

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Speaker 3: I mean the big winner has to be jail and

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Speaker 3: It's clear, you know, the Eagles are more interested in

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Speaker 3: should say so, I think Jalen Hurts is the big winner.

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Speaker 3: I still am a little bit concerned about Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 3: having AJ Brown as disposals just massive. So I thought

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Speaker 3: he was the biggest winner from draft weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talk about AJ Brown and obviously he's

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Speaker 2: But I mean DeVante Smith was no slouch to begin with,

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Speaker 2: and we talk about this at a time, it's usually

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Speaker 1: So oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 3: It's not out of the question. Yeah, no, I agree

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Speaker 3: I'm way more interested in Ritterer than I was heading

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a pretty decent spot just for

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Speaker 1: Just looking for a path to playing time.

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Speaker 1: So that's another thing to keep in mind. All Right,

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Speaker 3: So I'm going with the sneaky one here. I'm going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Saints loved to trade up in not take

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Speaker 1: So not necessarily the smartest thing to do, but.

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Speaker 3: For yeah, for half a year. I mean, what did

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it. From the perspective of just

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Speaker 1: But also like you're the Saints, like you're.

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Speaker 2: Just I wouldn't. I wouldn't have done it that way.

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Speaker 2: I understand why they did it. They felt like they

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Speaker 2: they saw the run.

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Speaker 2: and let's start us off because I only got one

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Speaker 2: guy circled here, you got three. So let's let's go

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Speaker 2: with losers at quarterback coming out of the draft.

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Speaker 3: Let's just start off with Ryan Tannehill just you know,

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Speaker 3: think they're kind of rebuilding, not too We're obviously not

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Speaker 3: worried about the Milik Willis picking the third. He's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's kind of you know, like

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Speaker 1: After that loss.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully he's good after that. I know it was

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Speaker 2: There, and people made a big deal of the interceptions

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Speaker 2: when you look at fields versus a guy like you know,

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Speaker 1: They didn't really give him anything extra.

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Speaker 2: They got their jackem Grant replacement in Vellas Thrones. You know,

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Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I mean, what is are

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Speaker 2: Like Daz Newsome now, Like what is like what are

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Speaker 1: Can't count on them.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a couple of them pop, but there's no one

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Speaker 2: So I mean you, I mean, what are your thoughts

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's no way we could project him in

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Speaker 3: You know, Darnell Mooney, I think he's gonna be good

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Speaker 1: At least.

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Speaker 3: He does have that rushing upside still, but we just

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Speaker 3: not going to cut it. So yeah, yeah, he definitely

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Speaker 2: For me, I can see it already, like week one,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's uh. I mean who they signed? Who

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Speaker 2: Oh, Equanimius Saint Brown's Like I was reading an article

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Speaker 1: It. I feel bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the beat writer's name, but I feel

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Speaker 2: I mean I still think if you're waiting on quarterback,

436
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 2: which is the optimal strategy and fantasy, he's not the

437
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 2: worst pick. But now it's like there was a time

438
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,239
Speaker 2: when I thought we could probably safely project him as

439
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 2: like top ten, top twelve, whereas now he's on that

440
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,360
Speaker 2: he's on that borderline and he's just like a pure

441
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 2: upside guy almost like he was heading into last year,

442
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 2: like nothing's really changed.

443
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 1: So, all right, who else you got for losers? Uh?

444
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 3: So I have to go with Lamar Jackson just because

445
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 3: he lost Marquise Brown. He also lost Sammy Watkins, which

446
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 3: doesn't matter too much, but but when you consider now

447
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 3: that they have to move up, you know, guys like

448
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 3: Devin Duverne or James Proche up the depth chart, it

449
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 3: does matter, even losing a guy like Watkins. So it's

450
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 3: gonna be rougher for Lamar this year. Again, he has

451
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 3: the rushing upside. He's still a top five QB. But

452
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 3: I'm just worried we're not going to see that twenty

453
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 3: nineteen type of season from him anytime soon. They're getting

454
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 3: back both you know, JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards, so

455
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 3: they'll be you know a little bit better at running

456
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 3: the football. The defense should be better healthier, I should

457
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 3: say too, So they're just gonna pass less and that's

458
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 3: that's gonna overall hurt Lamar's upside. But again, he has

459
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 3: such a high floor dude as rushing ability, but they

460
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 3: didn't really do anything to help him out other than

461
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: getting rid of Marcus Brown. So he was a big,

462
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: big loser for me. Draft weekend.

463
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Brown's impact can't be like Understateum, Like,

464
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: I know, he averaged only eleven point one yards per catch,

465
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 2: but he could still stretch the defense. You know, six

466
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: touchdowns over a thousand yards. He's had you know six eight, seven,

467
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: eight and six touchdowns in his three years, you know,

468
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: only missed a few games. So he's been a pretty

469
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 2: constant weapon for Lamar, you know, throughout his tenure.

470
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: So this is I mean, I don't like it.

471
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't like it, you know, like, yeah, I know,

472
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: like Bateman's cool, but I really don't like this for

473
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 2: Lamar because like defense has already kind of figured the

474
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 2: Ravens out last year with how they were with how

475
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: they were guarding them, and they would just like play

476
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: cover zero and and maybe that's part of the reason

477
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: they felt like Brown was expendable because he really wasn't

478
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: drawing that double coverage necessarily, which Andrews can. But you know,

479
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: Brown wasn't drawing that double coverage, but he was still

480
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: an important receiver ninety one catches last year. So I mean, yeah,

481
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 2: this could be a shock to the Lamar's system. Maybe

482
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: they're going to sign a veteran, but that depth chart

483
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: at receiver looks does not look good anyone else.

484
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I mean the big loser from the

485
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 3: actual draft had to be Maliki. You know, he fell

486
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 3: all the way to round three, which is kind of surprising,

487
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: but kind of not because we didn't know where these

488
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: guys were going. But you know, the Titans is a

489
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: horrible landing spot for twenty twenty two, I should say,

490
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: because he has a zero percent chance of leap frogging

491
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: a healthy Ryan Tannehill. But you know, down the road,

492
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill's contract is up after next year, I believe,

493
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: so he could be the Titan starter come twenty twenty four,

494
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: so he has some time to kind of develop under Tannehill.

495
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 3: So maybe long term it's a fine landing spot, but

496
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 3: the you know, the draft capital and the landing spot

497
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: was just a massive blow to Willis's draft stock when

498
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: we were talking about him potentially being like well a

499
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: Trey Lance last year where he had the upside but

500
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: he just couldn't leave Frog Jimmy g but he just

501
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: probably no chance of starting this year.

502
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: So he took the biggest hit for me.

503
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there were people, I mean I didn't agree

504
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,719
Speaker 2: with it, but there were people that like mocked him

505
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: number two, like they had like a team, you know,

506
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: kind of trading up to number two. So I mean,

507
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: it was a massive fall, and like I said, I

508
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 2: think it just shows what the league thinks about this

509
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 2: draft class, which that's like probably the worst thing. Like

510
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: it's not just like, Okay, a couple of teams passed

511
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: on him that we thought might take him, and he

512
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: went later, Like every team passed on this guy like twice,

513
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: you know, so like it's like, you know, like when

514
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers felt right, he was, he felt a few spots,

515
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: but he still got gobbled up. It's like it's a

516
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: difference with like no one thought to say, oh, he's

517
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: still here, like let's take him.

518
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: Like it was just like he just kept going further

519
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: and further and further down.

520
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's it's not, like you said,

521
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: not the worst landing spot, but just the draft capital

522
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 2: just does not bode well for the future projection. All right,

523
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: let's jump to running back, and I mean, all things considered,

524
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: it was probably one of the more uneventful running back drafts.

525
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't get like a surprise Quid Edwards

526
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 2: z Laire taking a first round We didn't get any

527
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: first round picks, and even the guys who did get

528
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: drafted early probably gonna start out in committees. There's no

529
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 2: like Naji Harris to this draft. So who's your big

530
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: winner here coming out of the draft at running back?

531
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: Well, like you said, I don't know if I could

532
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: say there's a huge winner here or winners, but I

533
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 3: think one of the guys that stuck out for me

534
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: was Damian Pierce. Yeah, landing with the Texans. Obviously, this

535
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: is a horrible team to land on, horrible situation. They're

536
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 3: probably not going to get to run much because they're

537
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 3: losing so much. But this backfield's kind of wide open

538
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 3: with Rex Burkhead and Marlon Mack there, so he has

539
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: one of the clearest paths of these, like later on

540
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: guys to be a three down back, like as soon

541
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: as this year. And he's five foot ten to eighteen.

542
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: He certainly has a work you know, workhorse back kind

543
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: of profile. He wasn't use much at Florida, but he

544
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: certainly chucks all the boxes. So I remember you and

545
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: I were kind of hammering Rex Burkehead, Yes, towards heavy

546
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: and it's all about volume. I mean, he's not great,

547
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: but I mean Pierce is a situation where he doesn't

548
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 3: have much competition.

549
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: We'll have to see how.

550
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: Marlon Mack looks, but there's a real shot for him

551
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: to be a starting running back sooner than later. So

552
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: I thought his landing spot was one of the best

553
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 3: I saw from these like round three on backs.

554
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean you hope that the interior of

555
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: the line is a little bit better. They did draft

556
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: Kenyan Green in the first round out of Texas A

557
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: and M, so he should start immediately on the inside.

558
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: I remember last year Houston's interior line was just one

559
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: of the worst I've ever seen. So well, it's not major,

560
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: but just little things like that I think could help.

561
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: And then another reason I really like Pierce's landing spot

562
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: is because you look around this team, right, and there's

563
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks right. When you talk about a weapon, there's

564
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 2: no real other weapon like John Metchi. They drafted him

565
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: the third. I think he's a good player. I think

566
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: he's a good route runner, but he's like, he's not

567
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 2: super explosive. He's more of just like a good football player.

568
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: Nico Collins is what he is, another guy just kind

569
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: of you're more like your ex receiver. He's not going

570
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: to like he's not like a weapon weapon like an

571
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: explosive kind of guy either, So like Pierce has a

572
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: good shot at being like the second weapon, and that

573
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: would just make him, you know, force him onto the field.

574
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: So it's not just that he has an easy backfield

575
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: to kind of overtake, but he could legit be like

576
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: their number two go to guy who's getting like, you know,

577
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: fifteen carries and four or five catches and they just

578
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: need to get him the ball because they don't really

579
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: have any other players that are that good at the

580
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,239
Speaker 2: skill position. So I really like his spot as well.

581
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: He's the guy who really stuck out.

582
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: To me more so than you know, some of the

583
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: guys like.

584
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: Bryce Hall and and Kenny Walker, who you know, they

585
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: were drafted highly and I'm sure they'll be at least

586
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: like in that Javon s Williams kind of works load range.

587
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: But you know, Pierce has a chance, I think, to

588
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: be like you said, a true, true, like full on

589
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 2: starter and maybe even from day one for for me, like, yeah,

590
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: it was tough to kind of come out with guys,

591
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: especially after he took Pierce, but one guy did like

592
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: his landing spot compared to some other places he could

593
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: have gone. As James Cook, I really think Buffalo is

594
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: you know, a team that like they didn't want to

595
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: rely on Singletary for as much as they had to,

596
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: And I think Cook is gonna be a guy that

597
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: they kind of work in right away, like Zach Moss

598
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: not making the team this year, Like Zach Mouss just

599
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: not gonna.

600
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: Make the team because he doesn't play special teams.

601
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: So essentially they just got their Zach Moss replacement. And

602
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: he's a guy who he's explosive, he can catch. He's

603
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: learned from Dalvin Cook, which always helps, you know. So

604
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to like about Cook out

605
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: of Georgia. I think I think he's a guy a

606
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: working right away to try to get him, you know,

607
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: into that passing down role. I think they try to

608
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: get him like seven eight touches a game off the bat.

609
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: And I think if if Singletary gets hurt, I think

610
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: he's I think he could be a three down back

611
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, he's another guy like he

612
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: could he could end up just winning the role. Like

613
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: Singletary is a very solid back, but if you have

614
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: like an explosive guy like you're gonna give it, You're

615
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: gonna give more snaps to him. So It's kind of like,

616
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: you know, when Antonio Gibson was in Washington and he

617
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: just you know, he started out. There was like Adrian Peterson.

618
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: There, and there was I don't even remember who the

619
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: other guys were. It was that Peyton Barber.

620
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: All these guys we thought were gonna get touches and

621
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: it's like by the end of it is like they

622
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: couldn't keep Gibson off the field.

623
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: So I think Cook is very similar in that respect.

624
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, Buffalo did get a little bit

625
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: lighter at the pass catcher position, So I think there's definitely.

626
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: A role for him here. Maybe C. J.

627
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 2: Spiller kind of kind of roll from you remember him

628
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: from oh yeah, yeah, So like you know, I think

629
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: until he throws up right right, yeah, man, hey, hey,

630
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: Like I think I think they got a good role

631
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: in mind for James Cook out here in Buffalo.

632
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: So I like that one.

633
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I could definitely dig that. I don't think

634
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: it's that big of a blow to Devin Singletary stuck either.

635
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: I think you could drop both backs. But yeah, Cook

636
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: kind of reminds me he's gonna be that James White

637
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: kind of role where great for PPR leagues. Kind of

638
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: gives you the high floor with some hidden up injury

639
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: upside obviously, But the only concern is that Josh Allen

640
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: hasn't been a big check down guy historically. He tends

641
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: to just tuck it and run. But I don't know

642
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: if Brian Dabele being out of there will change out

643
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: it all. But either way, I think cook you know,

644
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: he's gonna be good for potentially three to four catches

645
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: a game, so in an offense like that, that's that's

646
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: pretty valuable. So again, he's more of a high floor

647
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: PPR type guy. But I did love his landing spot

648
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: to the Bills.

649
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they said Josh Allen wasn't like a

650
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: checkdown guy when he got Cole Beasley, and Beasley had

651
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: like his best seasons. I mean, if you had Devin

652
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Singletary in Frank Gore you wouldn't and Zack Moss you

653
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't be checking it down a lot.

654
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Either, true, right, fuck it. I'll get the five yards myself. Yeah,

655
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: that's very true. I love you. Yeah, four winners, so

656
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm not.

657
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: Have to go ty Davis Price, I said heading into

658
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: the draft. Whoever the flour Acers take, it doesn't matter

659
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: who they are, and to be honest, it was a

660
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: surprise they took him so early. But again, just uh,

661
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: you know, I'm spinning with any back the Niners draft,

662
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: and I always joke that it's always the least expecting

663
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: running back that becomes the league winner. Twenty eighteen it

664
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: was Matt Brito. Twenty nineteen is Raheemoser. Twenty twenty was

665
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: Jeff Wilson the heading. In the last year, the least

666
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: likely back was Elijah Mitchell. Ye, and I was one

667
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: hundred percent joking. I'm not trying to take credit for this, said,

668
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: watch it be Elijah Mitchell. So you can't take anything

669
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: for granted. So I think ty Davis Price just by

670
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: landing in San Francisco, he might be fourth or fifth

671
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: on the depth start heading in the season, but it

672
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. This is you know, Roulette times a million

673
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: when it comes to the front and ires backfield. So

674
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: just by default he's one of the biggest winners of

675
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: draft weekend?

676
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: For me?

677
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: Is he by virtue of being selected on Day two?

678
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: Is he almost? Is he too obvious? Now, like, yeah, Thicken,

679
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: we might have to target Jordan Mason out of Georgia Tech,

680
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: who is the who is their lone undrafted running back signing.

681
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: Oh I remember that name, Sean Mason.

682
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: It would be cruel and like perfect for it to

683
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: be Trey Sermon this year though.

684
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I.

685
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: Know that that actually absolutely could happen. But I mean,

686
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: just realistically speaking, the fact that they drafted Davis Price,

687
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: this means Trey Sermon might go into the Zach Moss bag,

688
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: like just like throwing.

689
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: Back into the ocean like it might.

690
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: It might be a you know, it might not be

691
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: a long stay here on this roster.

692
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: There also is just so we throw them all out there.

693
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: There is Jamichael Hasty, so it could be him.

694
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: But either way, I mean there's Jeff Wilson too. He's back. Well, yeah,

695
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: he's out. He's out here, yep. Yeah, I mean I'm

696
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: not looking.

697
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: Forward to trying to project his death cards. Go and

698
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: give them all like one game of starting starters snatch.

699
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Either one game or seven. You have to pick right,

700
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: all right? Who else we got here? Uh?

701
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: Kind of touched on it early with the Ravens backfield.

702
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: I think comes out of this a winner because we

703
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: talked about going into the draft eight they could draft

704
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: a guy on Day two.

705
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: Perhaps and they didn't that.

706
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: You know, they drafted Tyler Bady, but I think he's

707
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 2: more of a threat to like Justice Hill than it

708
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: is to like Dobbins or Gus Edwards. So I think

709
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: compared to what they could have done, and yeah, I

710
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: mean there were some backs on.

711
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: The board, you know, that they could have taken and

712
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: they didn't really bite.

713
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: So I think that at least in still some confidence

714
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: that they feel like, you know, some combination of Edwards

715
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: and Dobbins are gonna be ready to go and.

716
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Kind of carry that main load.

717
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: And maybe Baby breaks in is like that third back

718
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: maybe beats out Justice Hill. But all things considered, I

719
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: was kind of worried that they would add like another

720
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: major player to the mix here in his backfield.

721
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: And they did it.

722
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: And and I mean they also took away one hundred

723
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: and forty one hundred and forty plus targets and ninety

724
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: catches in a thousand receiving yards, which tells me that

725
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: they going back to raven football even more this year.

726
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: They're not planning on being like, you know, a mediocre

727
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: When did they finished last place?

728
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: I think they finished last place, right, They had the

729
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: worst injury of luck, Like, yeah, they base it.

730
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: They've had so many injuries, so their defense will be healthier.

731
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 3: There's a lot of reasons to like, you know, like

732
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: you said, both Dobbins and Edwards heading into the earth.

733
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're trying to get back to just running

734
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: and blown being in those positive game scripts. I love

735
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: the Ravens draft, by the way, I thought, I think

736
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: that's how he's supposed to do it. Just take They

737
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: took like premium players at not premium positions early, but

738
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: they got my great discounts on it, and then they

739
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: kind of just filled out the other the needs late.

740
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 2: So I like the Ravens draft a lot, but who

741
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: actually got for winners?

742
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: I think Chase.

743
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: Edmonds came away a pretty big winner in my opinion.

744
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: I thought the Dolphins could have drafted you know, Breis

745
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: Hall or Kenth Walker, like I thought they were gonna

746
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: go for it, but they didn't draft a running back,

747
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: so that you know, that helps Edmunds. But you know,

748
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: Raheem Moser, he hasn't been able to stay healthy. Miles

749
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: Gaskin struggled last year. He was like a seventh round

750
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: pick and part of the frozen tier last year. So

751
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't too surprised to see him fall off. So

752
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: I just think things are setting up well for Edmunds.

753
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: You know, they got Tyreek Hills for this offense, you

754
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: know is gonna be a little bit more potent, and

755
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: then signed toront Armstead at left tackle, so you know

756
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: the offensive line is gonna be better. I just think

757
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: Edmunds was sneakily one of the biggest winners of the weekend,

758
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: so I could see him being you know, a low

759
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 3: end RB two to start the season. So I thought,

760
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 3: and then's did you know it wasn't his to his credit,

761
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: but he benefited greatly from the Dolphins not drafting running back.

762
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. You know, he's a guy I kind of talked.

763
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: I think I was talking with Samantha about this that

764
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: you know, he was kind of looking like a value

765
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: like he could probab he's probably gonna give you, like

766
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: no worse than flex value this year, and he was

767
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: going outside that, like he's going closer to RB forty.

768
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: But I think his his ADP should start shooting up because.

769
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: I think they have clearly you don't just go spend

770
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: free agent money on a running back, you know, to

771
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: to not do anything with him, So I think, yeah,

772
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: I think he's in.

773
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: A good spot.

774
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: One other guy I'll mention and it's it's kind of

775
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: Grassman of Straws here. But late round guy Tyler Augier

776
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: went to the Falcons again. I just like these situations

777
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: where like you just don't really have much there. I

778
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: know Cordell Patterson is you know, they resigned him, but

779
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: they actually did talk about him playing more wide receiver

780
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: this year. They might have to switch him back there

781
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: almost full time because I mean, outside of London is

782
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: still a shaky depth chart. So I really like just like,

783
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: you know, the spot where he might just not be active,

784
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: but he could also end up getting like, you know,

785
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen carries a game.

786
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: They have to replace that Mike Davis role somehow.

787
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: I know they also signed who was a Damian Williams,

788
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: but he could obviously just go the way of Mike Davis.

789
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: So you know, there is usually one or two of

790
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: these weight round backs that pops every year, so I

791
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: think Algier has a good chance. And another guy, Isaiah Spiller,

792
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: he went to the Chargers in the fourth round out

793
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: of Texas, saying them.

794
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: And I just think he's a guy. Keep his name

795
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: in mind, because he is.

796
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: Now in cop direct competition with Rowntree, the pick from

797
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: last year, and Josh Kelly. I guess it would be

798
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: for the backups to Austin Ettler, and that's a really

799
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: valuable backup spot. When we saw that last year, we've

800
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: seen that when he goes down like it's somebody usually

801
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: steps in there and it is pretty productive.

802
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: And they released Justin Jackson. If I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah,

803
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: he's gone. So that's not a picture. Yeah, I love

804
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: the spiller call. Yeah, So I mean see the guy again.

805
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: You know, day three backs, you're not looking at a

806
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: lot in year one usually, but just keep his name

807
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: in mind. You know, he might be your equa handcuff

808
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: by the time you're drafting, So just keep that name

809
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: in mind because we all know if you got a

810
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: early pick, Eckwer's one of the guys it's going to

811
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: be You're gonna be taken. So, uh, yeah, he's another

812
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: guy I wanted to mention. All right, let's go to

813
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: losers who got oh man?

814
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: So the first one for me is pretty obvious, but

815
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: it's Michael Carter and it's a damn shame because I

816
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 3: was pretty excited to see how he develop in your two.

817
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: I thought he showed flashes last year, and you know,

818
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: with this offense being better, I thought, you know, he

819
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: could be an RB two. But with Breesehall landing there,

820
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: that you know, squashed that. So you know, Mike Carter

821
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: is more of a valuable backup now and he does.

822
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: He does lower Breese Hall's value in my opinion as well.

823
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna get to that, but I just

824
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: don't like the landing spot for Breeseol for his own

825
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: sake or Michael Carter. So it was a bummer to see.

826
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: But Michael Carter's one of the biggest losers of draft weekends.

827
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love me some Brisol, So I mean,

828
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: and I like Carter last year, but I think Briessaw

829
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: is clearly like on a different level talent wise than Carter.

830
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: So I mean, did it Hall was about to go

831
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: to Texans, which is the only reason I would say, like,

832
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: I would call Hall a little bit of a loser

833
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: just relative to what we thought coming into the draft,

834
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: because again, we're always trying to find that back that's

835
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: going to step right into a three down every you know,

836
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 2: every down workload kind of like Najie Harris did last year,

837
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: and I think I think the Texans were that queer

838
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: spot where you know, if they found a guy, I

839
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: think he would pretty clearly step in, and then the

840
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: Jets jumped him.

841
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: They took Hall. So love Hall.

842
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: I think Hall could make it like a seventy five

843
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: to twenty five split, but they're just not that upside

844
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: for like ninety percent. I think necessarily in year one

845
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: that there would have been if.

846
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: He if he had gone so like Houston. So still

847
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: love Hall.

848
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: I still think he's going to be a worthwhile fantasy pick.

849
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 2: I think he has a lot of talent. But yeah,

850
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: just the Texans, even though they they're all line probably

851
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: is not as good. I still think they would have

852
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: just been a better spotcause it's all about it's just

853
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: all about volume for these roundbacks.

854
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: All right, who else you got? I'm going with for.

855
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: Shaw Penny for my number two, because you know he

856
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: was a league winner at the end of last season.

857
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: He had he just went off. He had four the

858
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: last four of the five games. I think he had

859
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 3: over one hundred and thirty rushing yards and a touchdown

860
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: in for those five games. So I was looking forward

861
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: to seeing him potentially be a work horse back this year.

862
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 3: It's already tough to project them with Chris Carson returning

863
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: as well, but now that they added Keneth Walker, it's

864
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: just a mess. And unfortunately, you know, Penny's value tanks

865
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 3: as a result. So this is potentially like a three

866
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: way committee on what's going to be a very bad

867
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: offense without Russell Wilson this year. So I thought Penny

868
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: his stock probably almost as much as Michael Carter.

869
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy because after Penny went ape shit down the stretch,

870
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: like was that last month of the year, I think

871
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: you had the league in rushing yards. I thought I

872
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: was never gonna have to say this phrase again, that

873
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: like Pete Carroll just doesn't like Orsha.

874
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: Penny and they go out and draft him back, you know,

875
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: when they couldn't.

876
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: But I remember I was in my group chat. I'm

877
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: talking to my boys. I'm like, yo, Seattle, got these

878
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: two picks they need to take. I would take like

879
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: like a Maleig Willison, like a sky More or something

880
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: like that, like do you know.

881
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: What I mean? Just build up?

882
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: And of course they go ken Walker and I'm like, oh,

883
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: and I had the over on the under on you no,

884
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: the over at like pick forty four. So I was

885
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: just like doubly pissed because he goes like pick forty one,

886
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: and of course it was the Seahawks, Like it's like,

887
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: come on, but uh, it's another It's kind of like

888
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: the restaw situation where I think Kenneth Kenneth Walker, especially

889
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 2: once the you know, the Jets kind of jump the Texans.

890
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: You say, Okay, maybe the Texans kind of you know,

891
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: have their sight set on him, and then he goes

892
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: to a backfield where you know there's there could be

893
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: two other guys. Now, I mean, what do you think

894
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: is this is this kind of the Seahawks admitting that

895
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: Carson might just not play again?

896
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: You think that was part of it?

897
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: Or you think it was just straight up Pete Caras

898
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: like disdain for shot Penny even though.

899
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: Rashot Penny turned out kind of kind of good.

900
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's probably a mixture of both. Yeah,

901
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: Like there is a bit of a messy around Chris Carson,

902
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: you know coming back. Uh, and it was a neck injury,

903
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: so it's pretty serious. So it could you know, reading

904
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: the tea leaves, it could mean that and yeah, Chris

905
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: Carson he's such a hard runner, he almost seeks contact.

906
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: I love him as a back, but yeah, he's he's

907
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: been taking some hits and getting you know, pretty injured

908
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: the past couple of seasons. So yeah, they're they're obviously

909
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 3: looking to move on from him. I think he's signed

910
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: until next year. But either way, you know, just running

911
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: back it's just a brutal position of playing the NFL.

912
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: So I think it's a mixture of both. And I think,

913
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 3: you know, down the road, like next season, I think

914
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker is going to have this backfield to himself.

915
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: So you know, maybe beyond this year, it's it's a

916
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: good landing spot for Walker, but this year, until we

917
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: you know, see what's up with Carson Penny, it could

918
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: be sort of a mess to project.

919
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I think there was a hierarchy among

920
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: these teams that needed backs where it's like, you know,

921
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: I think the Jets would have been a better spot

922
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: than Seahawks.

923
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: You know, even though the Seahawks loved to run.

924
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: I just think, you know that the fact that there

925
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: could be a third guy who also happens to be

926
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: a guy that you know, the coach loves in Carson,

927
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: like and I don't mean, I don't know how much

928
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: passing down.

929
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: Work Walker would really do.

930
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean from the scouting reports, it seems like, you know,

931
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: there are some questions about his past protection ability and

932
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: things like that, so you know it's I mean, will

933
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: certainly run a lot because they didn't draft a quarterback

934
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: or they didn't you know, they didn't do anything substantial

935
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: with the position.

936
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: So you know, he's a talented guy.

937
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: It's almost like he could have like I could see

938
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 2: Walker having like a Penny end to the season where

939
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: it's like he's kind of just chilling on the depth chart,

940
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: and then Penny inevitably gets injured, and then and Carson's

941
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: already hurt, and then you know, Walker kind of comes

942
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: in and he just kind of can be this like

943
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: two down back. Maybe they maybe still comes off the

944
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: field on pass downs. But I think he's a talented guy.

945
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, year one for Redraft, it's just a muddy

946
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: situation for at least that as we record this scene.

947
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, early, a two.

948
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: Down back like that, Like you said, I don't think

949
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 3: he's gonna involve in the passing game much, but two

950
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: down back like that, you'd want there to be some

951
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: touchdown upside and just unfortunately, if they're heading in a

952
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: week one of Drew Locke as a quarterback, you're just

953
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: not gonna have that touchdown upside. Unfortunately, he's gonna have

954
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: to make it himself. He's gonna have to score from

955
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: his own twenty. So that's that's the other thing with

956
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: him is I'm not getting a big touchdown projection for him,

957
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: but like I said, down the road, if they improve

958
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: the quarterback situation and that, like he has you know,

959
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: RB one upside. Just unfortunately for this year, I just

960
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: don't think it was a good landing spot for him.

961
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were there were we should have mention, like

962
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: a lot of scouts, a lot of evaluators actually had

963
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: him as the number one back in the class. I

964
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: believe PFF did as well. I was a briest Shall guy.

965
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: I think they're both talented. As his cook, I think

966
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: those are a clear kind of top three. But yeah,

967
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: that's not the slight walker and he's one of those guys.

968
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, like if you're drafting him with a late

969
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: round picking best ball or fantas like, he's not the

970
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: worst pick because he could just be really good and

971
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: like you know, like kind of like Alvin Kamara was

972
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: just like really good even though he was like a

973
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: day two or day two pick. It's like that's not

974
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: out of question with Walker, So like I don't want

975
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: to be like, oh, he's a loser.

976
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: Just with him.

977
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, right, it wasn't It wasn't that.

978
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, let's be clear, because.

979
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: He's he could just be nasty, Like he's on that

980
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: he's on that short list of dudes that could just

981
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: be nasty in this jaft all right, anyone else?

982
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Last, but not least Damien Harris. I mean, he

983
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: already had his work cut out for him, you know,

984
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: having a holdout for Manre Stevenson heading into this year,

985
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: James White's back, so not that that's going to impact

986
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: Harris at all, but he's just pitching hold into that

987
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: early down role. And then they added two backs, Pierre

988
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: Strong and Kevin Harris, so he just has even more competition.

989
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: And the reason why I liked him heading into last

990
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: season is because they got rid of Sonny Michelle and

991
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: he didn't have much competition. So yeah, so Harris was

992
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: not a big loser because he was more of an

993
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: RB three, but just all this competition just lowers his

994
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: floor and ceiling quite a bit. So just based on

995
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: how many running backs they had in the draft, Harris

996
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: is a pretty big loser for me.

997
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wonder, I mean, you know, you know

998
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: how the Patriots do.

999
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: They might just they might view like Strong as like

1000
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: his eventual replacement, you know, because he's Harris played well

1001
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: enough to kind of earn himself at least somewhat of

1002
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: a contract when his contract is up, and I don't

1003
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: I don't think the Patriots want to want to do

1004
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: that with running back. So yeah, it's he'll probably be

1005
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: fine this year, but yeah, long term future probably not

1006
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: even with the Patriots for being honest. A couple other

1007
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: guys I want to mention. One is the Bucks backfield

1008
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: behind Fournette. You know, they drafted another back, Rashad White,

1009
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: and I just he was the I think he ended

1010
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: up being the was it fourth back taken in the draft? Yeah,

1011
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: he was went in the third round. He's out of

1012
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: Arizona State. Not the most explosive guy. He's six foot two, fourteen,

1013
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: but I think he does kind of fit into that

1014
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: Ronald Jones role. So I mean, Keishawn Vaughan At one

1015
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: point it looked like maybe he would be that handcuff

1016
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: and then you still have Jille Bernard there. Now this

1017
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: is just like another potential three man backfield with Vaughan.

1018
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he played special team, so he

1019
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: might still be active. But it's just there's not really

1020
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: much there. There wasn't gonna be much anyway for net

1021
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 2: kind of taking control. But now, like even the handcuff

1022
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: situation is kind of murky there.

1023
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: All I know is I'm not overlooking for Nett at

1024
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: all heading into this season. Yeah, he's gonna Well what's

1025
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: his ADP right now?

1026
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: I'm curious it's it's I don't have it in front

1027
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: of me, but I know it's up there. I think

1028
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: it's in the top twelve to fifteen, back in the

1029
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: top ten.

1030
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: I remember last year, Remember I just stopped us dead

1031
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of a pot. I was like, why

1032
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: the hell is Ronald Johns being draft? I was like, legit,

1033
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: am I missing something? But man, was he fun to

1034
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: project at times last year. Fournette, Uh, don't sleep on him.

1035
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I know he missed like the last couple of months,

1036
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: so I thought maybe his stock would drop a bit.

1037
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: But if he's being drafted in the top fifteen. That's

1038
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: where that's where he should go RB twelve. Yeah, he's

1039
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: he's right there. You're not kind of the second round.

1040
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you're not getting a discount on him anymore,

1041
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: damn it. Yeah. I mean it's gonna be.

1042
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good early season for four Nette too,

1043
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: because it looks like, you know, Godwin's gonna probably miss

1044
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: some times.

1045
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they're really gonna have to lean on him.

1046
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: So that's the only reason, you know, I mentioned Vaughan

1047
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: because I think, you know, people probably looking at Fournette saying, hey,

1048
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: well if he goes down and maybe Vaughan's a three

1049
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: down back er at least, you know, a two down

1050
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: back with Geo mixing in. But now that might that

1051
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: that doesn't even happen. And one of the guys I

1052
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: just want to get your thoughts on. I can't decide

1053
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: if this means nothing or it does mean something. But

1054
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: the Commanders drafted Brian Robinson Junior at Atabama with that

1055
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: one of the last of the third round, so it

1056
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: was on It was a Day two pick, one of

1057
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: the six running backs taken on Day two. And the

1058
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 2: talk is like they want to use him as kind

1059
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: of a short yardage back, which I mean, Antonio Gibson

1060
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: scored quite a few touchdowns last year. Do you think

1061
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: that this is a threat because they don't. They didn't

1062
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: really have a guy like.

1063
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: This on a right. They had Barber, but they didn't

1064
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: want to use him.

1065
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: Is he just gonna be like like another Barber where

1066
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: he's pretty much not gonna get carries? Or is this

1067
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: guy gonna actually take some like goal line work because

1068
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: I hate I hate the whole like notion of like

1069
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: this rookie's gonna come in and take goal line work

1070
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: away from like a good player, But some people seem

1071
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: to think it's gonna happen.

1072
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get your thoughts on that.

1073
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gonna be a better version of

1074
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: Peyton Barber. Maybe you'll be taking his under twelve and

1075
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: half rushing yards on.

1076
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: Him convinced me.

1077
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: But I just think that, you know, it might be

1078
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: more of an indictment on Jared Patterson. But I just

1079
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: remember last season, Antonia Gibson was getting a pretty healthy

1080
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: workload and he was playing through and he suffered some

1081
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: pretty devastating injuries. He's playing through it maybe they're just

1082
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: trying to get him some relief. But yeah, it's it's

1083
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: kind of a mixed bag because I don't think he's

1084
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: really gonna take away too much work from Gibson, but

1085
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: obviously just a few goaling touchdowns will be very tilting.

1086
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: But I just think he's like an upgrade over the

1087
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 3: Peyton barbarole potentially, just to give Gibson a breather because,

1088
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 3: like I said, he suffered quite a few injuries last year,

1089
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: which which sucks because you know JD. Mckissick's back, like

1090
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: he's going to dominate passing work potentially, So it's kind

1091
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: of pigeonholing Gibson a bit. So I think it does

1092
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: curb Gibson's upside, but I just wouldn't be too scared

1093
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 3: away from Gibson quite yet.

1094
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen rushing touchdowns is first two seasons thirteen inside

1095
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: the ten, so you know, I mean, there's there's there

1096
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: is a chance, but I'm just usually on the side

1097
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: of like, why would you give a rookie those important touches,

1098
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: and and he's not as explosive like maybe short yardage

1099
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: like maybe a third and one, you know, fourth and

1100
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: one kind of like you know, the Bengals like to

1101
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: use some Majre p Ryan for an in the Super Bowl.

1102
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean and Gibson, you know, to your point,

1103
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: I remember writing about this. You know, he his yards

1104
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: after contact were just declining as the year war on

1105
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: and relative to his rookie year. And I think that

1106
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: was directly related to the heavy workload, because we remember

1107
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: this guy was a receiver coming out of school.

1108
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think I think that's probably where

1109
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: it lands.

1110
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: Like I think, like you said, more than Barber, but

1111
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: still not really taking away any touchdowns you know from

1112
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: from Gibson. All right, uh let's jump to wide receiver

1113
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: and who got winners coming out of the draft at

1114
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: wide out?

1115
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: Uh so gotta be Rashaun Bateman. I mean, I already

1116
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: love Bateman's upside heading in the year or two, but

1117
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: now without Marquise Brown, I mean it's through the roof.

1118
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: So you know, he's really a wide receiver three with

1119
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: wide receiver two upside now, but he has almost no

1120
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: competition at wide receiver. And you you know, at least

1121
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews can keep defenses honest, Lamar Jackson's scrambling ability

1122
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: will keep defenses honest. So you know, I just think

1123
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: that this is a really good situation for Bateman, who

1124
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 3: really flashed last year. I mean he started off, you know,

1125
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: kind of slow because he's injured, but he showed a

1126
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: lot of promise, so I think, you know, the sky's

1127
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: along with him. Unfortunately, in this offense, he can't be

1128
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: a wide receiver one. It's almost impossible. But like I said,

1129
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: he does have that wide receiver two upside.

1130
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I mean Brown was in one hundred and

1131
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: forty six targets ninety one catches.

1132
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: It's not out of the question that Bateman could get

1133
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: that kind of volume.

1134
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: Like it's just because you know, he is a guy

1135
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: that could can get open and he's actually not as

1136
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: necessarily limited as Brown because Brown's running a lot of

1137
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: those you know, deep routes. He was kind of he

1138
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: was running like deep in underneath routs, and I think

1139
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: Bateman could do a.

1140
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: Little more intermediate area at a field.

1141
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's not out of the question that

1142
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: Bateman gets like ninety catches, like that's kind of his upside,

1143
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 2: which would put him at wide receiver too. So yeah,

1144
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: I thought Bateman huge huge win. I wonder you think

1145
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: they're gonna sign somebody at some point, Like, I mean,

1146
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: it just seems weird to go into the season with

1147
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: DuVernay and Crochet is your other two guys?

1148
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah right now, like his values to the roof. But yeah,

1149
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: I could see them signing somebody, probably not enough to

1150
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: really lower them too much. It would have to be

1151
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 3: a pretty big signing, right, But yeah, I can't see

1152
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: them rolling into the season with James Proche as a

1153
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:24,959
Speaker 3: wide receiver three.

1154
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: But you never know.

1155
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: I mean they are in the AFC, which means like

1156
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: they could just get like Deebo Samuel or something.

1157
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, that would be a massive hit to

1158
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: Baitman value. But one thing I want to point out

1159
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: is now we know he's kind of QB proof because

1160
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: if Lamar Jackson gets hurt, Tyler Huntley is more than

1161
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: capable of sustaining this offense. And guys like Bateman and

1162
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: Andrews actually saw their production go.

1163
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: Up with Huntley. So it's always nice.

1164
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: To have in your back pocket the fact that the

1165
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: backup quarterback can sustain a receiver's value. So yeah, that's

1166
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: something I learned last year with the Ravens as well.

1167
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, love me some and Bateman right now.

1168
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully he's I mean, I'm sure the cat will

1169
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: be out of the bag, but he he's shaping up

1170
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: to be like a value pick at least if you're

1171
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: still drafted now maybe everyone hasn't caught on yet. I

1172
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: would get a lot of shares of him in best

1173
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 2: Ball because he has that chance to be that number

1174
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: one guy.

1175
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: And potentially catch ninety balls.

1176
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: All right, for me, I'll start off with the obvious,

1177
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: and that's Drake London, you know, coming out of USC

1178
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: going to the Falcons at number eight. I think that

1179
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: was just massive because we talked about this, I mean,

1180
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: the Falcons were like the clear place that you wanted

1181
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: whichever rookie wide receiver to go because you just you

1182
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: have all of the you know, you have the wide

1183
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: receiver one roll wide open like Drake lend is going

1184
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: to be their number one wide receiver and you know,

1185
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: could even be their number one target. I mean, you know,

1186
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: we'll see if you know, Kyle Pitts could obviously you know,

1187
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: dominate the targets and he could lead the team. But

1188
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: it's not out of the question that the wide the

1189
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: number one wide receiver leads the team. Uh.

1190
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: In target. So and you even lost Russell Gage. I

1191
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: mean the.

1192
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: Falcons that that it's it's pits and it's London, and

1193
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: then you have cordi Ale Patterson, but like it's it's

1194
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: gonna be such a concentrated target chair.

1195
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: So I love the fact that, like.

1196
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: Right off the bat, you're probably gonna get consistent production

1197
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: out of London, you know, And that's that's good for

1198
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: a guy who a lot of people were saying, you know,

1199
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: is he gonna be able to separate?

1200
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: Is he just like more of a jump ball guy?

1201
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't really matter at this point, right He's

1202
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: gonna get He's gonna get his like seven eight targets

1203
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: a game, probably from from jump So I just think,

1204
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: you know, he's a clear winner. And you know the

1205
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: upside too, is I mean, I don't think the Falcons

1206
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: are gonna throw a lot of touchdowns, But Kyle Pitts

1207
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: had one touchdown on one hundred and ten targets. So

1208
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: not only are you in a situation where you're gonna

1209
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: be the number one wide receiver and you're a big

1210
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: body guy who can win in the red zone, but

1211
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: your number one receiver only caught one touchdown on one

1212
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: hundred and ten targets.

1213
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: So it's like, and he might still get the double teams.

1214
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: Over London to start with at least, So it's a

1215
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: good situation to lead the team in touchdown, it's a

1216
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: good situation to potentially even lead them at targets.

1217
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just a lots alike about about Drake

1218
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: London going to the Falcons.

1219
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we were saying that before the draft, right,

1220
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: just whoever goes to Atlanta is going to be an

1221
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: instant winner. So love the landing spuff for London, but

1222
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: you already mention it. I am a bit worried about

1223
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: just the passing touchdowns in general. I'm projecting the Falcons

1224
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: for around twenty yeah, which is hashtag bad.

1225
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's Pitts is new for some positive touch

1226
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: on regression too, I might add, but either way, it

1227
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: does kind of limit their ceiling.

1228
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: But like you said, like he's a lock probably for

1229
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: eight or so targets a game, so he does have

1230
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: that higher floor with the potential for more. I mean,

1231
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: he could make Mariota or Riter better quarterbacks and lead

1232
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 3: them to more touchdowns. But you know, just rookie season,

1233
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: that's tough. So that's that's really the only thing limiting

1234
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 3: is upside. But he certainly is, you know, a really

1235
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: good wide receiver for fire take because like we say,

1236
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: you know, he's going to be probably the first receiver

1237
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 3: you take on your bench, and in those situations you're

1238
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 3: shooting for upside anyway. So I think he's gonna be

1239
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 3: going in that sweet spot where I'm okay taking that risk,

1240
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: but great landing spot for London.

1241
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: All right, who else you guy?

1242
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: So let's see my second gume going with a rookie

1243
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: trail and Burke's you know, he's essentially being drafted to

1244
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 3: replace a J. Brown immediately. And he's one of those

1245
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 3: guys where he has a really high ceiling but also

1246
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: a low floor, like he could bust his rookie season,

1247
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 3: but he's in a situation and that raises his floor.

1248
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna give be given every chance to

1249
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: produce as a rookie. He has no choice. So I

1250
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 3: think that helps him out big time. So I think

1251
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: that raised his draft stock. I did think he was

1252
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 3: gonna up in Green Bay, so you know, I thought

1253
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 3: he was gonna end up in an ideal situation, but

1254
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: just based on the draft capital based on then getting

1255
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 3: rid of A J. Brown to essentially trade up to

1256
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: get him. That was massive, massive news for Burke. So

1257
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying his draft stock is up, but you know

1258
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 3: he still is going to be risky as a rookie.

1259
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1260
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: You know it's it's a great spot and it you know,

1261
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: if it pans out, the Titans look like geniuses. But

1262
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 2: you know it's there is a little risk. But still

1263
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: can't hate on the spot and the guy they're trying

1264
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: to replace, because that that would be very productive. All right,

1265
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: My next guy is gonna be Alec Pierce went to

1266
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: the Colts in the second round, and I think they

1267
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: envisioned a starting spot for him right away as well.

1268
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: So he's a you know, he came off.

1269
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: The board, I think outside the top ten wide receivers

1270
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: did go to twenty one. Addis Cincinnati six three to eleven,

1271
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: has some Jordy Nelson comps. Gives them a lot of

1272
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 2: size across from Pittman. And remember Zach Pascal and Zach

1273
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: Pascal's in Philly, t Y Hilton's unsigned, So I really

1274
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: think they intend to start this guy Pierce right away.

1275
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: And you know Matt Ryan, he's had some pretty good

1276
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: success with some rookie receivers never shied away from throwing

1277
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: them the ball.

1278
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Calvin Ridley comes to mind.

1279
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: So I think this is a really good land of

1280
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: spot for Alec Pierce in Indianapolis.

1281
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 3: Yep, I agree, And it's also good for Pittman too, Like,

1282
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 3: like you said, they already lost a couple of weapons

1283
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: in Pascal and Hilton, so they definitely needed somebody. So

1284
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: I think, you know, Pittman's still to Alpha, but Pierce

1285
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 3: can at least draw some coverage away. So I thought

1286
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 3: it's good landing spot for Pierce and Pittman.

1287
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this could be.

1288
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: He could be a ninety percent like route runner right

1289
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: off the bat could Pierce. So like he's like he's

1290
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: kind of like the poor man's version of London almost

1291
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: like he's not gonna be the number one receiver, but

1292
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: he could get the same amount of routes per game,

1293
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So definitely watch him if

1294
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: you're drafted now and keep him on. You're keep him,

1295
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 2: you know, in mind for Dynasty and all that good stuff.

1296
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: All right, let's goat uh, So I'm going with the

1297
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: Green Bay in Kansas City landing spot.

1298
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: So that's Christian Watson and Sky Moore.

1299
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I think Watson's pretty raw, but he's

1300
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: six four two eight two hundred and eight pounds ran

1301
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: a four point three five forty er dash plus. I

1302
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 3: think Aaron Rodgers is gonna make it a point to

1303
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: kind of prove the Packers wrong for not spending draft

1304
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: capital all these years, so he might force the issue

1305
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: with Watson a bit. So just love the landing spot

1306
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: for Watson to potentially be Aaron rodgers number one target

1307
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: this year and then sky Moore great landing spot in

1308
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: Kansas City. He's the type player where just get the

1309
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 3: ball in his hands and he can make guys miss.

1310
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: So well, he's not going to be.

1311
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: Able to replace Tarrek Hill, there's you know that potential,

1312
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: there's those targets up for grabs that he can at

1313
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: least fill in that gap and just being on the

1314
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: Chiefs instantly, you know Skyrockets's draft stock. So love the

1315
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 3: landing spot for Moore and Watson.

1316
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like there there are veterans there on both

1317
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: of those depth charts, but it's not like both of

1318
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: those guys could be starting day one, you know, will

1319
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: they be the number one guy by day one, probably

1320
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: not maybe who knows, Maybe Watson has a better chance,

1321
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: I think, but you gotta love the quarterback, so yeah,

1322
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: I like it. I think whoever those teams took first

1323
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: at wide receiver automatically was gonna win, even though, as

1324
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: I said, right now, it's hard to parse the depth chart,

1325
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: but we'll obviously get charity on that, and it can

1326
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 2: only be a matter of time. All right, one other guy,

1327
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: I mean and wide receiver. I mean, this is the

1328
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: position where I think they're if you're always looking for

1329
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: opportunity more than anything. So I think Jalen Tober or

1330
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: the Cowboys is a really interesting one. You know, uh

1331
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: went in the third round, number twenty four, uh six,

1332
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: one ninety four out of Southern Alabama.

1333
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: But he's a kind of a deep ball guy, straight

1334
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: line guy.

1335
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: But Michael Gallup, remember, may not start the year healthy,

1336
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: so and they wet Cedric Wilson. So like there's a

1337
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: clear opportunity for Tobert to crack the top three in

1338
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: a pretty explosive passing game with a pretty good quarterback

1339
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: there in Dak Prescott. So you know, people, some people

1340
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: thought the Cowboys may even go for one of the

1341
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 2: wide receivers in round one because it was a clear

1342
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: need and they might need him to play right away.

1343
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: That didn't happen.

1344
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: They you know, there was a run on receivers, but

1345
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: the fact that they still went after Tober on day

1346
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: two tells me that they probably they probably viewed that

1347
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: as a need in somebody that is going to get

1348
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: a chance to play right away. So I really like

1349
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: Tobert forlid Atlanta spot. We'll see, you know a games.

1350
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: Washington will be one of his main like guys, guy

1351
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 2: he's battling with and that's he's a Washington is beatable

1352
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: at this point. You know, if if Tober plays anywhere

1353
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: near what Washington is, they're gonna give it to Tober

1354
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: because he's got more upside long term.

1355
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, what like the spot for Tolber?

1356
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say, James Washington versus Jennen Tolbert,

1357
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 3: it's gonna be one of the camp battles. Yeah, we

1358
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: need to keep an eye on because, like you said,

1359
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: Michael Calt might not be ready for week one and

1360
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 3: they don't have a Mark Cooper anymore, So either one

1361
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 3: of those guys could be you know, thrust it into

1362
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: an early down roll early in the season.

1363
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, love the Tolber call. All right, let's go

1364
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: to losers. Who you got.

1365
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Aman Raw Saint Brown. You know,

1366
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: last year is probably the ceiling, just considering you know,

1367
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: the Lions lost both Dedres Swift and TJ. Howkinson for

1368
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 3: for much of the season, so you know, he just

1369
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: saw a ton of targets. We saw he had massive upside.

1370
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 3: Goff loves checking it down to him. But with both

1371
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: Swift and Hawkinson back to begin the year healthy, plus

1372
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: they added DJ Turk and Jamison Williams, We're just gonna

1373
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: see the Saint Brown's target share go down. And a

1374
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: guy like him that kind of relies on targets that

1375
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 3: is gonna be sort of a massive blow because he

1376
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: can't bank on things like touchdowns or other ways to

1377
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 3: put up points. So while I think he's still you know,

1378
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: wide receiver three, Golf's still gonna love chucking down to him,

1379
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna take a pretty big hit with

1380
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: them adding Williams so early.

1381
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: In the draft.

1382
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think the upside for

1383
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: Amal Ross Saint Brown is kind of just to remain

1384
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: like a Jarvis Landry type player, like where he's still

1385
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: he gets his hundred and twenty targets in his ninety catches,

1386
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: like regardless of what else is going on, and then

1387
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: you know the touchdown, yeh. Like I could see every

1388
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: year of his career being very similar to this one.

1389
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: Just ninety catches, nine hundred and twelve yards and five

1390
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: touchdowns like that. That just seems like that in a

1391
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: good best case scenario. That seems like if he could

1392
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: just do that every year, I think he'll be fine.

1393
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: But I agree he did add a lot of pieces

1394
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: around around him which could kind of cut into it.

1395
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: Williams won't be ready probably until middle of the season,

1396
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: so that at least that helps Chart not as big

1397
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: of a threat, all right for me.

1398
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: I'll yeah, I'll talk about the the Eagles, guys.

1399
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: I think aj Brown going to Philly, as much as

1400
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: we love it for Hurts, I think it's still a

1401
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 2: little bit of a downgrade going there because you do

1402
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: have DeVante Smith entering a breakout year potential breakout year.

1403
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: And you know, Philly is one of those teams.

1404
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they pretty much ran just as widdle as

1405
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: the Titans didn't even less at times last year, so uh,

1406
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, and I think the I mean Ryan Tannehill

1407
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 2: with Brown was just such an efficient combination. We haven't

1408
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: we just haven't seen that with Jalen Hurts yet. Now

1409
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: maybe Hurts with Brown is that same efficiency, But as

1410
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: of now, it still also looks like Brown is getting

1411
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: you know, knocked down a peg in terms of the

1412
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: quarterback as well. So I think you have to look

1413
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: at him as a loser just compared to his previous situation.

1414
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: And at the same time, you know, wide receivers usually

1415
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: break out in year two because there's usually they were

1416
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: usually drafted to bad teams and then there's nothing kind

1417
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: of stopping them from kind of breaking out, whereas now

1418
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: DeVante Smith has to deal with another guy that can

1419
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: put up even better numbers than him. So maybe that

1420
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,919
Speaker 2: kind of you know, cuts into his ceiling a little

1421
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: bit more than it would have been if he was

1422
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 2: just that clear cut number one guy in Philly, you know,

1423
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 2: at wide receivers. So both, I think it's an overall

1424
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: good situation for the Eagles. In the football team, it hurts,

1425
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: but for fantasy it makes it a little tougher to

1426
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: project Brown moving up to the same value he did

1427
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: in Tennessee and for Smith to take that you know,

1428
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: big week forward that you usually expect receivers of his

1429
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 2: caliber to take.

1430
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, And you know there is upside

1431
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 3: here if if Hurts were to miss time Gardner.

1432
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: Minshew, will he keep getting them in here? He's like

1433
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: our g Obernardo. I think, oh he's better than meeting.

1434
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: But I think Gardner Minshew, if you're in a deep,

1435
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: deep I mean deep super flex two QB league, there's

1436
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: worse backup quarterbacks of stash.

1437
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1438
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: Because there is upside now with both aj Brown, Devonte's you,

1439
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard. I think Gardner Minshew is pretty sneaky.

1440
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had that Remember he had that good game.

1441
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: I think it was against the Jets. Uh, and he

1442
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: like subbed in for Hurts this year.

1443
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, Cayer he can he can chuck it. Yeah,

1444
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: oh no, definitely he was.

1445
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: I mean at one point he looked like he might

1446
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: have been the like the Jaguar starter going forward and

1447
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: it just kind of flamed out. But yeah, I can't.

1448
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: I can't hate on the Minshu love Minshew mania out here.

1449
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,959
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, we'll wrap it up go one more each,

1450
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: I guess, uh the guy I'll go with. And again

1451
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: this is just based on landing spot relative to to

1452
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 2: where he could have gone. Garrett Wilson, he I thought

1453
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: he was gonna go to the Falcons. I luckily I

1454
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: had a bet with him versus Jamison Williams who would

1455
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 2: get drafted first, and I had Wilson. So it's still won.

1456
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: But was a little surprised that the Falcons went with

1457
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: London over him.

1458
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: So Wilson on the Jets. It's just a more crowded

1459
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: receiver room, you know.

1460
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, did not really didn't really have a

1461
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: ton at tight end, but uh, you know, you still

1462
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: have Corey Davis, you still have Elijah Moore, who's another

1463
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: very good young player who could kind of take his

1464
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: second year leap this year. So, you know, as opposed

1465
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: to Atlanta where he was almost going to be guaranteed

1466
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: eight targets from week one, now he's on the Jets

1467
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: where he could be like the third, you know, fourth

1468
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: option you know, starting out.

1469
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: Who knows. I mean, he's very talented.

1470
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: Again, so it's not like I'm saying don't draft him,

1471
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: but I just think his stock went down a little

1472
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: bit because whoever, whatever receiver.

1473
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: In that top ten that didn't go to Falcons, his

1474
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: stock was going to go down. So Garrett Wilson for me, yeah,

1475
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: I didn't like the landing spot.

1476
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 3: And I will say, just all these Jets players, when

1477
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 3: you're taking them at ADP, you're kind of betting on

1478
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson having a year two leap, So it's all

1479
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: hinging on that. But if he can have a year

1480
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: two leap, then he could support you know, guys like

1481
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore and Garrett Wilson.

1482
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, who else you got for wide receiver?

1483
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: So for the last guy, it's a mixed bag. But

1484
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 3: Johan Dotson, you know, I like him. He was arguably

1485
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 3: the best slot receiver in the draft. And you know,

1486
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 3: I love the early stround draft capital. I mean the Commanders,

1487
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: I would say they reached for him, but it means

1488
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: they like him. But you know, he was the guy

1489
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: I kind of had peg going either to the Packers

1490
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 3: or Chiefs, so I would have preferred those landing spots.

1491
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: And now he's it's hard to get excited with him

1492
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 3: landing on a Carson Wentz led Commander's offense. I mean

1493
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: let's be honest, and they still have Curtis Samuel if

1494
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: he could stay healthy, he's going to eat in his

1495
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: target chair. Logan Thomas will be back. So it's hard

1496
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 3: to get too excited, but you know, he who to

1497
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 3: him better off I think in Green Bay or Kansas

1498
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: City when it comes to fantasy. But so that's why

1499
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying it's a mixed bag with him.

1500
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, it's like he could like I've seen

1501
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: him compared to like Tyler Lockett is like a comp

1502
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: So it's like that's I mean, that's obviously a very

1503
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: good comp Like.

1504
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: That's certainly that's the ceiling.

1505
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like you can't rule out that he's

1506
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: just going to be again one of those guys on

1507
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: that short list of guys who could just be nasty

1508
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: in the league. But you already got McLaurin, which you know,

1509
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: so it might take him some time to prove himself.

1510
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: Like you know, you're probably you know what, Claurin's the

1511
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: guy is gonna get like his ten targets a game.

1512
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: So it's like even you know, week one, like Dotson's

1513
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: what's his ceiling, like five six targets? Maybe week won

1514
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: you know, so it's just yeah, But at the same time,

1515
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: like you said, most people had him going around two

1516
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: or at least late round one. So the fact that

1517
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 2: he went like sixteenth, just from a statistical perspective, that

1518
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 2: does increase the odds that he will succeed in the NFL.

1519
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know, it's Carson Wentz exactly. That's

1520
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like, long term, this could be amazing.

1521
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 3: If they don't extend Terry McLaurin, they figure out the

1522
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 3: quarterback situation in the next couple of years, this could

1523
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 3: be a great planning spot. But just I'm saying for

1524
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, he could have done better.

1525
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, he's just they needed somebody

1526
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: for that Adam Humphreys role.

1527
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: Like that is true, All right, let's go to tight end.

1528
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: It would just I think, like really, we talked about

1529
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: this on the pre draft pod, like if you're not

1530
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: drafted in round one, there's almost no chance that you

1531
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: have to produce in fantasy or even around two maybe,

1532
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: but if you're not drafted in the top two rounds,

1533
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: there's almost no chance you're a productive fantasy player, and

1534
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: you're one at tight end. So I feel like the

1535
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: only guy we should really talk about is Trey McBride,

1536
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: and and like, what do you think how that's how

1537
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: you think that's gonna affect what Arizona is doing? Now

1538
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: we know that Hopkins is gonna be out for six games?

1539
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: You know, is this negatively impact Ertz? Do you think

1540
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 2: do you think Arizona and Clifford just kind of gonna

1541
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 2: lean in more to that two tight en offense because

1542
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: they didn't run quite a bit of it with Max

1543
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: Williams and and Ertz and and just Max Williams and

1544
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 2: who I forget the other guys like Darryl Daniels or

1545
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 2: whoever it was, Dan Arnold Dan.

1546
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 1: That definitely matters. Yeah, matters.

1547
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I mean, what are your thoughts on

1548
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: just how this is gonna affect it? Because I think

1549
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: I could see it going a few different ways.

1550
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 3: Well, I'm bummed that he didn't go to Tampa Bay

1551
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 3: because we were hyping that up. But this does remind

1552
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: me of enough he's been compared to Dallas Goddard, Like

1553
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: he does have that upside kind of reminds me of

1554
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard ended up in Philly with that you know,

1555
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: backing up zach Ertz, so it kind of it kind

1556
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: of hurts both their value. At the same time, I

1557
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: think with DeAndre Hopkins out the first six games, Ertz

1558
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 3: is back in.

1559
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: My top ten.

1560
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think, you know, Treck Bride has that

1561
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 3: injury upside, but like he's gonna have no value as

1562
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 3: long as zach Ertz is healthy, I'm afraid, which which

1563
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 3: sucks because he was good enough to land on a

1564
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: team that needed a tight end, so didn't like the

1565
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 3: lanning spot. But again, this is something maybe twenty twenty

1566
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 3: three and beyond it pays off, but it was really

1567
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 3: disappointed the landing spot for him and zach Ertz. So

1568
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 3: actually both of them were my biggest losers at tight

1569
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: end because it just they kind of campbellize each other

1570
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 3: right right off the bat.

1571
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you said, I think with Happins being out,

1572
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, Ertz was essentially leading the team

1573
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: in catches what happens out last year, so I think

1574
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: arts will be I think the plan is probably the

1575
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: to go some more you know, heavy personnel and kind

1576
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: of mix it up, but I think ultimately it's probably okay.

1577
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: We can have McBride learned under one of the best

1578
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 2: to do it. It's doing it in a game right now,

1579
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: and it urgs. So they have Urt signed to a

1580
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: multi year deal if I'm not mistaken as well through

1581
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: the next year, I believe, and that's guarantee. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1582
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: so he's so, I mean, this might be a situation mcgrid.

1583
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: You might have to wait two year three for McBride, which,

1584
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: like you.

1585
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: Said, it's disappointing because if he goes to Tampa Bay,

1586
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: maybe even Denver, he probably has a better chance of

1587
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: being a productive player in year one. But now I

1588
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 2: think it's just gonna be you know, maybe maybe two

1589
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: catches a game at most. I think he kind of

1590
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: tops out at for this year. All Right, that's gonna

1591
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,440
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1592
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,840
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1593
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