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Speaker 3: Walking around his house yelling E Simon.
Speaker 1: I do well. I yell like in a accents all
Speaker 1: the time. And like over the holidays, we had like
Speaker 1: two hours where there wasn't simmering tension between various step
Speaker 1: moms and mother in laws. And that was when like me,
Speaker 1: my wife, are two boys, my dad, his wife, and
Speaker 1: my mother in law we gathered around the fireplace and
Speaker 1: which I had built the fire and it was glorious
Speaker 1: and we were playing different games and one of the
Speaker 1: games required you to say certain words or guess what
Speaker 1: an accent is. And at one point, like there was
Speaker 1: an English accent and a Scottish accent and it was
Speaker 1: my moment to shine because I have been doing bad
Speaker 1: English and Scottish accents around my house, I think since
Speaker 1: the day my kids were born. And it was so
Speaker 1: exciting because they got it immediately. It was the only
Speaker 1: time I could really contribute to the game.
Speaker 3: It's I always joke my biggest negative when I go
Speaker 3: to England is I can't stop doing people's accents back
Speaker 3: to him. And it's like kind of like were're doing.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm not even trying to be disrespectful. I
Speaker 3: have like a parrot syndrome, but here's something I just
Speaker 3: repeat it back. And the big one is my uncle
Speaker 3: has a dog named Nelly, and anytime Nelly does anything
Speaker 3: goes no Nelle, and I swear for about no nell
Speaker 3: two weeks all I say to anything, anyone asked me anything?
Speaker 2: Oh no, Nella, no No.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it all right. It's a
Speaker 1: week fourteen episode. We're going to narrow down the options
Speaker 1: to get to our final five. It's going to be
Speaker 1: harder than we think. In our pregame and our pre
Speaker 1: show convo, it felt like we were split on some games.
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Speaker 1: listen Simon. We're going to get into the Steelers in
Speaker 1: the Ravens game. But the big news this week, like
Speaker 1: there is just crazy, crazy drama that we have not
Speaker 1: seen in the Steelers' locker room or with the Steelers
Speaker 1: generally since Mike Tomlin has been coached, Like they signed
Speaker 1: Adam Thielen, so clearly all their downfield passing issues are
Speaker 1: just gonna go away. I kid, but the bigger news.
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger on his podcast set, I love Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 1: but and everyone knows anything you say before but is
Speaker 1: a lie. I love Mike Tomlin, but maybe he should
Speaker 1: go coach Penn State Come on, case Simon, I don't
Speaker 1: get this. A Mike Tomlin's not building that roster. He's
Speaker 1: not the one who signed TJ. Watt to a massive
Speaker 1: forty million dollar guaranteed deal for next year. He's not
Speaker 1: the one who signed Jalen Ramsey and traded away makea Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: He's not the one who gave Cam Hayward a new
Speaker 1: deal after he sat out during training gap. He's not
Speaker 1: the one who signed Aaron Rodgers like. He's not the
Speaker 1: one who traded for DK Metcalf. I know he's involved
Speaker 1: in all these conversations, but there's a lot of blame
Speaker 1: to go around. This roster is not good enough, and
Speaker 1: we're going to get into that. But dude, Mike Tomlin's
Speaker 1: been a brilliant coach for twenty years. I can name
Speaker 1: ten teams right now that would kill to have Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin be their head coach. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 1: Like Mike Tomlin is not really the problem here?
Speaker 3: No, and Big Ben is part of the problem of
Speaker 3: all these ex athletes having podcasts, And I get it,
Speaker 3: everyone WANs to share their opinions and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: but that just sounds like a bitter old man, Ben Roethlisberger,
Speaker 3: that's just I don't know why he's holding grudges against Tomlin,
Speaker 3: But to think a man like that, a caliber of coaching,
Speaker 3: who's taken a joke of a team these last couple
Speaker 3: of years to the playoffs every year, and you know,
Speaker 3: think that man might go to Penn State, like you
Speaker 3: just said, if you're if you're the Raiders, like all
Speaker 3: these different organizations I've just for twenty years, you would
Speaker 3: die to bring in a Mike Tomlin type this get
Speaker 3: the organization right, So very very bizarre are Roethlisberger is saying.
Speaker 3: I think it's another thing of an athlete maybe having
Speaker 3: stuff we don't know about behind closed doors, that he's
Speaker 3: holding grudges against tom because rationally doesn't make any sense,
Speaker 3: Like no sense, Yeah, it makes zero sense. So I
Speaker 3: think Tomlin laughed at it basically when they asked him
Speaker 3: about it, just being like I gotta hear I gotta
Speaker 3: talk about this stupid shit again, because it feels like
Speaker 3: every year they're asking if you'd ever go to college,
Speaker 3: and it's like, dude, the disrespect of that man to
Speaker 3: ask him that question is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Raiders, Titans, Giants, I mean, the list goes.
Speaker 3: On Eagles fanily. I love Sirianna. I would I would
Speaker 3: take time, honestly, I mean, I do respect Serianni. But
Speaker 3: what are we doing here? Tomlin's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this thing. Every week we
Speaker 1: give it our peaks. Every week, Simon's fellow professional betters
Speaker 1: call to yell at him about those picks. It's time
Speaker 1: to summarize those opinions. It's time for chef calls. Who
Speaker 1: all right, rain range, telephone range. Somebody said, maybe wanted.
Speaker 3: To do man, Yeah, I'll start where I got killed,
Speaker 3: which I knew was coming.
Speaker 2: I was on.
Speaker 3: I'm on a lot of chalk. I would say, shocking,
Speaker 3: and no one pros they really like Cincinnati. But like
Speaker 3: I said, I did believe they liked him at the six,
Speaker 3: and I haven't heard too much love for them at
Speaker 3: the five and a half, which is where that number is.
Speaker 3: But tons of calls about Cincinnati and how that's going
Speaker 3: to be the right side. Tons of love for Pittsburgh,
Speaker 3: tons of love for you know, not shockingly, this Atlanta
Speaker 3: team that is in a unique spot a game. I
Speaker 3: didn't really you know, talk too much about him. You
Speaker 3: know a ton of love for Dallas, which we talked
Speaker 3: a little bit about. But the biggest one I got wrong, obviously,
Speaker 3: is this Minnesota game. I got a ton of calls
Speaker 3: about pros who love Minnesota.
Speaker 2: They don't think Daniels is playing.
Speaker 3: They love this matchup defensively for Minnesota against Mariota coming
Speaker 3: on the road, if it is gonna be him, And yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's a game I just simply got wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm still on Washington.
Speaker 3: I still like them as a dog, especially the fact
Speaker 3: that it's up to two and a half in a
Speaker 3: lot of books right now. But I was shocked to
Speaker 3: hear so many pros are coming in on this Minnesota
Speaker 3: side and they just love JJ. I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I will never get it. They love the coming of
Speaker 3: the year. They kind of haven't budget on it, and
Speaker 3: you've seen it this week, the way that numbers move.
Speaker 2: So those are the games that kind of gotten wrong.
Speaker 2: The ones they loved.
Speaker 3: Our picks on love the Saints plus eight and a half,
Speaker 3: Love this Jets team that we've talked about, loved our
Speaker 3: love for this Cleveland team, you know, Chicago. I talked
Speaker 3: to a couple of really smart groups that are on it,
Speaker 3: I still think that's a Green Bay line. When it's
Speaker 3: under seven, I still think it's a Green Bay line.
Speaker 3: So I'll be a fun one to discuss. We want
Speaker 3: to get into it. Tons of love for Atlanta already
Speaker 3: talked a little bit about that one. Arizona. You know,
Speaker 3: not a shaker with such a big number. I knew
Speaker 3: the Pros would be on that one. And that Chiefs
Speaker 3: game is kind of a flip flop. I've heard groups
Speaker 3: on both sides of it, so there's not really one
Speaker 3: side that they love, right if you can get the
Speaker 3: three and the Chiefs, I know some really smart groups
Speaker 3: have coming on and the same with a three and
Speaker 3: a half. They're tons of professional groups that took early
Speaker 3: positions on that Houston side.
Speaker 2: And the last one pain pains for me to hear.
Speaker 3: The Pros absolutely love this Chargers team against the Eagles.
Speaker 3: They love the matchup for them, and what we've talked about,
Speaker 3: there's all the dysfunction, all the noise around this Eagles team.
Speaker 3: I think they view it as another spot to keep riding,
Speaker 3: you know the fate of this Eagles team. But like
Speaker 3: I said, I think if it's two and a half,
Speaker 3: that's an Eagles line. So that's gonna be a fun
Speaker 3: where I'm I gotta. I have a couple of games
Speaker 3: are going against the pros. For the most part, it's
Speaker 3: all the chalk, Like I'm just on chalk this weekend,
Speaker 3: like every week the pro Just love the dogs.
Speaker 1: Simon, You'll always be my pro. Thanks buddy, you know
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Speaker 1: into it, Simon, you mentioned Dallas. We let's talk about
Speaker 1: Dallas and Detroit for a second. Detroit is a three
Speaker 1: point favorite. We're not going to spend too much time
Speaker 1: on it. We can't put it in contest because Thursday
Speaker 1: games aren't eligible. But it's a really interesting game. I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna bet it like I think I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna sit it out. I think it's it's I
Speaker 1: think it's lined perfectly right, like it feels so public
Speaker 1: to bet the Cowboys. I'm not getting the hook. It's
Speaker 1: not going to two and a half. The Lions I
Speaker 1: think have real issues either reverse biases coming into play
Speaker 1: for me maybe, but I don't like the number totally fair.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna touch the stove. I'm gonna bet the Lions.
Speaker 3: I can't help it. I just I just nailed it.
Speaker 3: I'm clearly stuck in the past, but I am just
Speaker 3: so scared off about how much public love this Cowboys team,
Speaker 3: and like you just said, the number has not budged
Speaker 3: off the three despite we've had a day and a
Speaker 3: half now of not just professional money, public money as
Speaker 3: well hammering this Cowboys side.
Speaker 2: So I'll bet with the books, I'll take the Lions.
Speaker 3: But yeah, very very low confidence in this bet. I
Speaker 3: just this Lion's team just seems totally lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Washington plus one and a half at Minnesota at
Speaker 1: hard Wrack Bet. Washington plus one and a half was
Speaker 1: the Simon says Better the Week presented by hard Rock Bet.
Speaker 1: I think we made that when you thought Jaden Daniels
Speaker 1: might be playing. It's looking more and more like Marcus
Speaker 1: Mariota is going to be the quarterback. And this line
Speaker 1: has now moved to two. You said there's two and
Speaker 1: a half's out there. I think in this bet, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I don't see what the love is for
Speaker 1: the Vikings if JJ McCarthy is your quarterback, because he
Speaker 1: is just so ineffective. He has not been able to
Speaker 1: move the ball in any capacity. So are you just
Speaker 1: thinking that it's going to be a three nothing game?
Speaker 1: Like if you're betting on the Vikings, Like, what are
Speaker 1: you looking at here? To make you feel good about
Speaker 1: betting on this Vikings team. I know it sounds stupid.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota is now sort of has enough past attempts
Speaker 1: to be eligible for all the rankings. He's a medium
Speaker 1: ore serviceable, mid level quarterback who has been in the
Speaker 1: pantheon of backup quarterbacks recently and certainly this year one
Speaker 1: of the better ones. And so I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: favor Washington here. Everyone is banking on the fact that
Speaker 1: Brian Flores is going to be able to confuse Marcus
Speaker 1: Mariota to a degree. He's going to turn this game over.
Speaker 1: That's got to be what it is, right, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I've had just a lot of guys who are
Speaker 3: really heavy on this Minnesota tie just said, you need
Speaker 3: to kind of go back and really dive into how
Speaker 3: bad this team has been for the Commanders, right with
Speaker 3: everything that's going on behind the scenes, And that's fair.
Speaker 3: Like their last couple of games, even though it was
Speaker 3: a jugging out of a schedule, they went to Kansas City,
Speaker 3: they got blown out seven to twenty eight. Then they
Speaker 3: played a Seahawks team at home, got blown out thirty
Speaker 3: eight fourteen, then played Detroit at home, lost forty four
Speaker 3: to twenty two, so that's fair, right, And then they've
Speaker 3: kind of played well these last two weeks where you
Speaker 3: know Miami, I think that was in Madrid they.
Speaker 2: Lost sixteen to thirteen.
Speaker 3: They felt like they could have won to cover that
Speaker 3: game a million different ways, right, I remember the kicker
Speaker 3: out of miss kick.
Speaker 2: It was just a total training wreck.
Speaker 3: And then that Denver game another game where it felt
Speaker 3: like they could have covered.
Speaker 2: And won it outright in a bunch of different ways.
Speaker 2: It lose by one.
Speaker 3: They obviously got the cover, but that was the first
Speaker 3: time they had covered in about four or five weeks.
Speaker 3: So I get what they're saying, right that this this
Speaker 3: Washington team is just bad right defensively and you really
Speaker 3: dive into it as bad as JJ is. You would
Speaker 3: think wide receivers, but it'll take advantage of a really
Speaker 3: bad secondary. Like Chad just said that, you're banking a
Speaker 3: lot on JJ McCarthy and make these completions, and you know,
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson hasn't been blowing up in the media, but
Speaker 3: you can see him on the field, his bilinge, everything
Speaker 3: he's doing. He's just so over it, sick of this
Speaker 3: whole experience. So I really am just playing the number here.
Speaker 3: Like Chad just said, there's two and a half's out there,
Speaker 3: a couple of very public books. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: take the number. Even if it is Mariota. I still
Speaker 3: feel like this game should be closer to a pick
Speaker 3: than it is at minus two and a half for
Speaker 3: this Minnesota side.
Speaker 2: So not shocking.
Speaker 3: The pros love this Minnesota team so much. I'm just
Speaker 3: shocked the numbers move so much. Where we don't even
Speaker 3: know who the quarterback is going to be. Where Daniels
Speaker 3: is practicing is just limited, and that's why the number
Speaker 3: has moved in my opinion, because like Chad said, you know.
Speaker 2: I talk a little bit on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: People I've talked to behind the scenes in Washington. They
Speaker 3: don't want him to play right. They just wanted the
Speaker 3: kid to take a full time heal come back next
Speaker 3: year when it matters. But he's such a competitor. He's
Speaker 3: pushing the play because he wants to right. He's not
Speaker 3: a guy that, when he's healthy, wants to set out.
Speaker 3: So I'm really interesting how it plays out because it's
Speaker 3: right now, it's organization versus a quarterback, and we'll see
Speaker 3: what side the head coach picks. But I think this
Speaker 3: head coach, Like we've talked about these different coaches. You
Speaker 3: see the way they coach at the end of these
Speaker 3: games where they want to be next year. It feels
Speaker 3: like dan Quinn he's happy to follow the organization's lead
Speaker 3: here and maybe said his quarterback, so be patient here,
Speaker 3: like I gave it, as Simon says, obviously I was wrong.
Speaker 3: The number could keep moving up. If it is the
Speaker 3: two and a half at your book, you can get
Speaker 3: it right now. I would grab, but at one and
Speaker 3: a half, I'd be patient, see if you can get
Speaker 3: a better number.
Speaker 1: Two Jade and Daniels said, I don't rehab to sit,
Speaker 1: so we know he wants to get on the field.
Speaker 1: So it's going to be an interesting sort of tug
Speaker 1: and pull there. If he doesn't play this week, you know,
Speaker 1: are they going to let him come back and play
Speaker 1: week fifteen, Week sixteen, week seventeen? Like as the season
Speaker 1: gets closer to the end, what's really the point if
Speaker 1: this team is completely out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So they played the Eagles twice, so it's like, does
Speaker 3: he want to come back and play spoiler against a
Speaker 3: divisional po I could see it.
Speaker 2: Maybe if he was a ten year vet. It's his
Speaker 2: second year.
Speaker 3: Does he really have that much against the Eagles that
Speaker 3: he's like, No, I need to come back for these
Speaker 3: last two weeks to play.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. So I'm with you.
Speaker 3: It's a really fun situation where the competitor in him
Speaker 3: wants to play, but the organization's smart.
Speaker 2: They're trying to protect the long term. They're thinking they've.
Speaker 1: Been through this with RG three Indianapolis at Jacksonville. Jacksonville
Speaker 1: it's a one and a half point underdog at home.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you this one lit up our
Speaker 1: comments in YouTube on Tuesday after the show, I went
Speaker 1: in and answered some questionquestions about it. People felt that
Speaker 1: I had a bias against the Jags, and I do
Speaker 1: have a bias against the Jacks.
Speaker 2: We both do.
Speaker 1: I don't think Trevor Lawrence is a very good quarterback,
Speaker 1: like that that's a bias because it's true because he
Speaker 1: hasn't performed at the level at which he has paid,
Speaker 1: at which he was drafted, at which the expectations are
Speaker 1: for him. Like that's just a fact. So the reason
Speaker 1: this team has been playing well and his contention is
Speaker 1: because of Liam Cohne, who, by the way, maybe he
Speaker 1: should be Coach of the Year for dragging this team
Speaker 1: to eight and four in the middle of December, right,
Speaker 1: But the truth is I do have a bias against
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. And yet in the show on Tuesday, when
Speaker 1: I said I feel like I want to bet the Colts,
Speaker 1: I still listed all the reasons in which I'm afraid
Speaker 1: of betting the Colts, And by the end of the show,
Speaker 1: by the end of that segment, you had completely turned
Speaker 1: me around. And this line did get to plus two
Speaker 1: for a second, and now it's been back down to
Speaker 1: one and a half. This is like, clearly the line
Speaker 1: of demarcation for the wise guys is too. I feel
Speaker 1: like you and I have probably come around are going
Speaker 1: to be betting the Jags because I'm I'm I'm worried
Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones. That's to me the issue.
Speaker 2: Worry about Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3: And like we talked about the secondary of this Colts team,
Speaker 3: there are some major questions about them when you can
Speaker 3: exploit them, like the Jags should be able to This
Speaker 3: feels like a great matchup for them, so really fun
Speaker 3: game to dive more into this past couple of days
Speaker 3: and just hearing the pulse of what the pros were
Speaker 3: gonna do with the one. I kind of knew they'd
Speaker 3: be on the Jaguars, but I was just interested because
Speaker 3: this number, like Chad said, there's a couple of twos
Speaker 3: that have touched. So it's like, Okay, is there professional
Speaker 3: money coming in on the Colts or is there something
Speaker 3: I'm missing here? And you know, I've heard maybe one
Speaker 3: or two groups have come in to the Colts, but
Speaker 3: just the majority of guys I've talked to kind of
Speaker 3: the same in tality of us here. This is a
Speaker 3: Jags line, a Jag spot, and this Colts team. It
Speaker 3: feels like we've talked about a couple of these games.
Speaker 3: We feel like we're holding biases from earlier in the
Speaker 3: year in this type of game where we know the
Speaker 3: Colts when they're going right, they are the better team right,
Speaker 3: there's no doubt about it. When everything's clicking offensively. I
Speaker 3: think we both agree we would have trust Daniel Jones
Speaker 3: much more than we trust Trevor Lawrence and many aspects,
Speaker 3: especially this season where you know Daniel Jones, if you
Speaker 3: go back and look, he was so great against the
Speaker 3: Blitz when he was fully healthy and mobile. Again, he
Speaker 3: wasn't even ruin the ball that much. Just his pocket
Speaker 3: presence was incredible. Ever in the year, you've seen these
Speaker 3: last three four weeks. Whatever the injury is, maybe he's
Speaker 3: pushing off it's so painful. Whatever it is, it's in
Speaker 3: his own head. He's just been taking sacks usually when
Speaker 3: he's been reading the hot route and making the first
Speaker 3: read and having you know, good throws and tough pockets.
Speaker 3: He's not been that same way. And defensively, we've seen
Speaker 3: this Jaguars team. Yes, they do have weaknesses obviously and
Speaker 3: their linebackers in their secondary, but that D line, which
Speaker 3: they've drafted so well these last couple of years. Strength,
Speaker 3: they have guys that can pressure quarterbacks here, so you know,
Speaker 3: matchup wise, I really like this Jaguars team, and we
Speaker 3: talked a little bit about it. This this number should
Speaker 3: be closer to a pick bro general public, Like my
Speaker 3: model has it a minus three for the Jaguars, which
Speaker 3: I still think is insane. I can't believe it loves
Speaker 3: the Jaguars that much. So really unique spot here back
Speaker 3: in the Jaguars team that you know they're kind of
Speaker 3: left for dead by the public even though they've been
Speaker 3: winning and covering these.
Speaker 2: Last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: So I think people are just like us, where it's
Speaker 3: hard enough to have your biases of Trevor Lawrence. He
Speaker 3: just does such egregious stuff every week. It's hard not
Speaker 3: to have the Linger in the back of your mind.
Speaker 3: But trust the models people here, trust the professionals, back
Speaker 3: back this Jaguars team. And yeah, I'm glad I wasn't
Speaker 3: all on once a gat on the Cults on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: because Sunday night me and Chat both said, yeah, we
Speaker 3: thought that was a good cold number, and yeah, I
Speaker 3: quickly realized the error of my ways. And yeah, this
Speaker 3: Jaguars number, I could just see it dipping. Like you said,
Speaker 3: it's got up to two a couple of books. The
Speaker 3: more pros I talk to, this seems like more money's gonna
Speaker 3: come to the Jaguars side.
Speaker 2: And this could easily flip come game time.
Speaker 3: So definitely grab the Jags as you can right now.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones said the leg really isn't an issue unless
Speaker 1: he has to move laterally, which is like fifty percent
Speaker 1: of the moves right, Like you got to move right
Speaker 1: to left and forwards and backwards. So that is a
Speaker 1: little bit of a scary prospect to be betting on
Speaker 1: a guy who's struggling to move when he's going to
Speaker 1: get some pressure. And also the Colts, like their defensive
Speaker 1: line has some injuries and that's impactful against a running game.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think both coaches are really good.
Speaker 1: I think there's no real advantage there. I think Liam
Speaker 1: Cohn is doing a remarkable job with subpar talent at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He also had the most Duke conversation ever where he
Speaker 3: set his buddies who went to college with have invented
Speaker 3: this like fake prosthetic party puts on his pads that
Speaker 3: protects the injured area. And it made me think of
Speaker 3: I have an aunt that lives down in Durham, North Carolina,
Speaker 3: and I was probably probably twenty two. I just really
Speaker 3: dove into becoming a professional better. I'm flying down there,
Speaker 3: go a visitor, and I'm sitting next to a kid,
Speaker 3: Sam ages me twenty two to twenty three, flying back
Speaker 3: to college where he goes to Duke and he does
Speaker 3: heart research. I go, that's pretty cool. Like, again, we're
Speaker 3: on totally different pathrore, Like I'm a professional better.
Speaker 2: I goes, what do you guys do?
Speaker 3: He goes, he pulled out just box and goes, well,
Speaker 3: I build an artificial heart and it got to prove
Speaker 3: to be put into process. This is like in whatever,
Speaker 3: say like twenty twelve, twenty eleven, and I always think
Speaker 3: back to this guy is building these fake hearts and
Speaker 3: artificial hearts at twenty two twenty three and I was
Speaker 3: over here like talking about being a professional better totally
Speaker 3: broughbab me back down and humbled me.
Speaker 2: At that time I really needed it.
Speaker 3: So I always think back at the different paths of life,
Speaker 3: and you know, you never know, like this kid, he's
Speaker 3: someone that built artificial hearts and extra professional better when
Speaker 3: we were both just young kids talking about TV shows
Speaker 3: and movies, all.
Speaker 1: Right, that said, we're going to be on the Jacks
Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone's thinking about a way to
Speaker 1: fix Daniel jones broken fibula between now and then Miami.
Speaker 1: At the New York Jets. The line at hard Rock
Speaker 1: is two and a half. Everywhere else it's three. So
Speaker 1: I would recommend getting the three. I made this Chad's
Speaker 1: choice when it was the Jets two and a half
Speaker 1: On Tuesday, and that seemed to be the only twenty
Speaker 1: four hour window where this wasn't three because it was
Speaker 1: at three Sunday in the Monday. It's been three since
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. I betted at three. I bet it again
Speaker 1: at three. So the Dolphins are getting all the bets
Speaker 1: on this one. They're the public side for sure. You
Speaker 1: mentioned you shurep call. The Jets are the wise guy side.
Speaker 1: What I don't get is why hasn't it come back
Speaker 1: down to two and a half when I know the
Speaker 1: professional money is coming in on the Jets in this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I think this has to deal with what
Speaker 3: we talked a little bit about, where it's this game
Speaker 3: had a lot of dictating on the weather, and you
Speaker 3: saw earlier in the week.
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be a Hug Show storm coming through
Speaker 2: for this game.
Speaker 3: Now, the Saand's gonna blow out and it's going to
Speaker 3: be sunny, So it basically would be thirty one thirty
Speaker 3: two degrees for kickoff and sunny is what they're predicting
Speaker 3: right now, Which if you're in Miami and Tua, that
Speaker 3: as good as it's going to get. Right if you're
Speaker 3: coming to the Northeast in December. You knew it's gonna
Speaker 3: be cold. But if you're not getting any type of
Speaker 3: horrible wind in met life, you're not getting rain or
Speaker 3: any bad elements like that. Who should be all right?
Speaker 3: Right with the times we've seen him struggle. You know
Speaker 3: that was when he was in Buffalo or Kansas City
Speaker 3: and it was like windshill of three degrees outside and
Speaker 3: it was just my numbing. It might not be that
Speaker 3: bad for him in this spot, but we've seen times come.
Speaker 3: This Jets team, they keep being underrated.
Speaker 2: By the public. Tyrod Taylor, We've talked about it.
Speaker 3: You know, his last eight starts, he's seven to zero
Speaker 3: to one against the spread.
Speaker 1: So it's super Bowl champion, pro bowler.
Speaker 2: Nothing nothing new for him though. It's just being underrated
Speaker 2: by the public.
Speaker 3: Just seems like that's gonna be what's gonna be for
Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor, right, They will keep underrating him. So my
Speaker 3: only issue with Ay Chad is we both love this
Speaker 3: one so much.
Speaker 2: This tends to be the games that exactly burn.
Speaker 1: Us right now. I know, I agree, I totally.
Speaker 2: We're nothing going to revisit Sunday for our contest.
Speaker 3: I have like a feeling like I'm getting in a
Speaker 3: little bit my gut alarm bells here that we've already
Speaker 3: hit on black seventh straight times the Roulette wheel, and
Speaker 3: we're we're hitting on black once again. So I don't
Speaker 3: know what to do here where it's like, I think
Speaker 3: it's the right read, but we are taking a little
Speaker 3: bit of a risk here that the market might have
Speaker 3: caught up to Taylor at this point, because to me,
Speaker 3: this number feels right like my model has it right
Speaker 3: at this So my model has.
Speaker 2: It too, you know. I think we're getting a good
Speaker 2: number on the Jets at two and a.
Speaker 3: Half, especially at three. But I get why there's just
Speaker 3: not a ton of love from most professional talk to
Speaker 3: where they're playing their Jets. But it's not like they're like, no,
Speaker 3: you have to bet this. This is exactly why you
Speaker 3: want to back this Jets team. I feel like they
Speaker 3: have the same mentality as I do. It's like, man,
Speaker 3: we got away with one last week. We really got
Speaker 3: to go back to this well hammer this one. But
Speaker 3: we just we love both of us love this matchup.
Speaker 3: It's just this Miami's defense is so bad, Taylor's gonna
Speaker 3: be able to move the ball against him. Can they
Speaker 3: get stops against TUA after you know, last week too
Speaker 3: had a terrible game historically, and you dive into his trends,
Speaker 3: he tends to bounce back after really bad games every
Speaker 3: time him and McDaid, it's just that combo. You know,
Speaker 3: any game he goes without throwing a touch on the
Speaker 3: following game, he averages two point three touchdowns per game.
Speaker 3: So it's just again lazy stat, but just shows he
Speaker 3: tends to bounce back after struggling the game before.
Speaker 2: So just to be something weary of.
Speaker 3: But this is another game that if we wake up
Speaker 3: Sunday chat and it is twenty five degrees limit or
Speaker 3: rain kind of kind of windy out, I will have
Speaker 3: to put this one. If there's any type of winner
Speaker 3: elements in this game. But it's a perfect sunny day.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll talk this out of and lie to myself
Speaker 3: being like, nah, don't, don't, don't go too hardier on
Speaker 3: this Jets team. But I love the plus three and
Speaker 3: you do as well, so it's me hard to avoid it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I feel like, and it's
Speaker 1: totally anecdotal, like when we tend to love a game,
Speaker 1: lock in a game early in the week, I feel
Speaker 1: like we don't even hesitate to put it into our
Speaker 1: final five, and it always ends up being a game
Speaker 1: that we're out of it in the first quarter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had the blinders on a couple of times
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: It's true. Well, let's see if we have the blinders
Speaker 1: on for the Cleveland rounds at minus three and a
Speaker 1: half hosting the Tennessee Titans. Huge swings back and forth
Speaker 1: on this one in a small range like four and
Speaker 1: a half to four to three and a half to
Speaker 1: three and a half to four to four and a half,
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. Look, I dismissed all
Speaker 1: the noise about cam Ward's improvements a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago in the show, but if you do look at
Speaker 1: his numbers, passer rating, lack of interceptions, completion percentage, they
Speaker 1: are all much much better since Brian Callahan was fired
Speaker 1: in week six. And this has been outside of last week,
Speaker 1: a more competitive team.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: They twice beat down the back door to cover a
Speaker 1: big number against the Chargers, to cover a big number
Speaker 1: against Seattle. But they haven't played Miles Garrett in Cleveland yet,
Speaker 1: And so when I'm looking at this game, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at not sure door Sanders as more than a field
Speaker 1: goal favorite. I'm looking at cam Ward having to compete
Speaker 1: against Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just been talking to why different pros love
Speaker 3: this Tennessee team so much?
Speaker 2: Right, They've come in very heavy on like this.
Speaker 3: This number did open a lot of books at five
Speaker 3: and a half four and a half, and like Chad said,
Speaker 3: a lot of books quickly move at three and a half.
Speaker 3: So that's some serious money pushing it a whole point.
Speaker 3: And I couldn't understand why. So I wanted to figure
Speaker 3: out what people are seeing that I'm missing, And it
Speaker 3: is a little bit of the cam Wred love right
Speaker 3: that you just talked about. But it's also they can't
Speaker 3: believe that Shador Seniors would be this big of a favorite,
Speaker 3: which I think is a totally fair criticism of him
Speaker 3: and that team. But like I talked on Tuesday, I
Speaker 3: don't think this is Shdor Sanders' line. I truly think
Speaker 3: this is a defensive line. This is a line that
Speaker 3: when the bookmaker's posted it's what I'm looking at my model,
Speaker 3: which is like, okay, say the offense is a total
Speaker 3: zero in your opinion, at least the Browns have a
Speaker 3: good run game, Like we've seen it through multiple weeks here.
Speaker 2: That they can run the ball pretty consistently.
Speaker 3: It's just the usuer for us, which I think most
Speaker 3: guys have bet in this Browns team, is if it's
Speaker 3: thirty and seven, thirty and eight, you definitely have more
Speaker 3: confidence in Ward, I guess completing that than you do
Speaker 3: a Saantors, Right. But like I've talked about, I think
Speaker 3: it's just an overreacting road reaction to this past week
Speaker 3: where you go and look at that Raiders game. He
Speaker 3: was moving pretty well in the pocket, finding open lanes
Speaker 3: and I think he only had eleven completions, but still
Speaker 3: they were big time completions, right, and that's what you're
Speaker 3: looking for for Sainders and a young quarterback were cam Ward.
Speaker 2: We've talked about it.
Speaker 3: He's so erratic that, yeah, the numbers have been better,
Speaker 3: but we talked about a lot of those numbers is
Speaker 3: a late game, you know, passing yards and touchdowns like
Speaker 3: those are fourth quarter stats. Yeah, most defense are playing prevent.
Speaker 3: Could we get burned by the Browns prevent defense? Sure,
Speaker 3: but we've seen it this year. This Browns team doesn't
Speaker 3: usually go into that mode like they always plays if
Speaker 3: they're very desperate, so it just feels good to reaction,
Speaker 3: like the pros have really bet this one, and you
Speaker 3: look at the money splits.
Speaker 2: You know, the tickets of most books.
Speaker 3: Are pretty heavy on the Brown side, but the money
Speaker 3: is very, very much skew to this Tennessee side. So
Speaker 3: I really do like this Browns game. It's another game,
Speaker 3: just like the Jets when we're I know it's probably
Speaker 3: an overreaction of my part to it, but I just
Speaker 3: think the lines move too much.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think the Jet should be plus three.
Speaker 3: I don't think the Browns here it should be minus
Speaker 3: three and a half. It just feels like a too
Speaker 3: much overaction by a lot of these professionals. So maybe
Speaker 3: you'll help us talk because out have to come a
Speaker 3: Sunday chat. But as you say, right now, the Browns,
Speaker 3: they are quickly becoming all of my bigger bets. I've
Speaker 3: taken a pretty large position on the minus three and
Speaker 3: a half. I just I think it's a unique spot
Speaker 3: with this Browns defense. Jim Schwartz at home against a
Speaker 3: rookie on the road in the elements. I gotta take
Speaker 3: the Browns here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a hard time walking away from it to.
Speaker 3: Total thirty three and a half. I shouldn't mention that too.
Speaker 3: So that's another reason pros like the like the dog.
Speaker 3: Here's just a total that low with that few points,
Speaker 3: most pros will just blindly take the dog in that position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really it's a really low number. I'm
Speaker 1: having a hard time walking away from the Browns. And
Speaker 1: it's entirely because we've had a lot of success betting
Speaker 1: the Browns as the better defense at home against much
Speaker 1: much better teams and better quarterbacks and than what we're
Speaker 1: getting in the Titans and so and with by the way,
Speaker 1: worse quarterbacks than Shoud or Sanders. Yeah right, So I mean.
Speaker 3: Whether it's matter here, Like looking at it early again,
Speaker 3: it's it's three four days out, but it's supposed to
Speaker 3: be flurries of snow, really strong wind, and probably in
Speaker 3: the mid thirties. So this could be another game where
Speaker 3: the elements play a factor into.
Speaker 1: It, all, right, Seattle at Atlanta. Atlanta's a seven point
Speaker 1: dog right now. We talked a little bit about it
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. You and I are split on this game.
Speaker 1: You're riding this I like the Falcons here and I
Speaker 1: know it sounds gross to say it, but they keep
Speaker 1: losing close games. Sam Darnold has not been as good
Speaker 1: as he was when he started the season the past
Speaker 1: few games. Kirk Cousin's serviceable. I'm not saying he's great
Speaker 1: to me. The one reason that I'm not like going
Speaker 1: all in on the Falcons yet is because I want
Speaker 1: to know Rake London's status. He is so important to
Speaker 1: this team, but.
Speaker 3: Like very unlikely hasn't practiced all week, so you know,
Speaker 3: and they're four and eight, like, are they really going
Speaker 3: to rush back there? They're number one player on their team.
Speaker 1: And absent that absent that this is peak Seattle and
Speaker 1: the lowest of the low valleys for Atlanta. So I
Speaker 1: get why the wise guys are on it. I get
Speaker 1: why it's moved from seven and a half to seven.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you and I are split on this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just again.
Speaker 3: Atlanta is a type of team where I'm not saying
Speaker 3: all the teams they've played in the past are bad,
Speaker 3: but they have not played a team, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: on this Seattle level where you know.
Speaker 2: They went to New England.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember that game they lost
Speaker 3: by one point, it was twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 3: That's a totally different team at this point, right, that's
Speaker 3: with Drake London, that's with Pennix, that quarterback. Like this
Speaker 3: is I don't think people are reacted enough to how
Speaker 3: bad this Falcons team now is with the kirkut, the helmet,
Speaker 3: without Drake Lon and it's just you know, their last
Speaker 3: three games, you know, not going to take too much
Speaker 3: away from it, but it's been against Carolina and Orleans
Speaker 3: and the Jets. They won one game of that whole unit, right,
Speaker 3: that was when they went to Orange and they blew
Speaker 3: up the Saints team. But you even talked about how
Speaker 3: that game was much closer than people realize. Right, that
Speaker 3: was a game where Saints could gather their own way
Speaker 3: and eventually Kirk took it away from them.
Speaker 2: Right, they won twenty four to ten.
Speaker 3: So it's just a faconts team that they beat up
Speaker 3: on bad They beat and played bad teams here with Kirk,
Speaker 3: this is a legit juggernaut like the Seahawks, the more
Speaker 3: numbers I dive into them, Like you said, if Sam
Speaker 3: Donald could figure it out, their path to the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl is literally there. Like they have the guys, they
Speaker 3: have the pieces. It's all going to come to Sam Donald.
Speaker 3: So for me, this is a get right game for
Speaker 3: Sam Donald. He should light up this defense. And I
Speaker 3: think what you're talking about is true. The only thing
Speaker 3: we're wary of here is just such a huge number
Speaker 3: to be back in Sam Darnald on the road.
Speaker 2: But talked if you just don't get too hard.
Speaker 3: About yourself on Sam Darnold, this head coach with Geno Smith,
Speaker 3: has gone on the road in won games and covered
Speaker 3: games and going back to last year, so it kind
Speaker 3: of seems like we need to start thinking so much
Speaker 3: about what the quarterback is that start really realizing this
Speaker 3: is a head coach team like a lot of these
Speaker 3: other teams. We talked about like, you know, this head
Speaker 3: coach might be one of the best in football. And
Speaker 3: you know McDonald here his record on the road as
Speaker 3: just a young coach. He's nine to four against the spread.
Speaker 3: So you know, this year we've seen it as two
Speaker 3: non covers have been you know, Sally both games I
Speaker 3: backed or no. He did cover against the Rams, but
Speaker 3: he didn't cover against Tennessee. But we talked that felt
Speaker 3: like a very flukey back door covered by the Tennessee team.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna hold hold my line here back to
Speaker 3: the Seahawks team on the road. I just the numbers
Speaker 3: moved too much of minus seven. I gotta take the Seahawks.
Speaker 3: If you if you're like Chad and.
Speaker 2: You want to back to the Falcons, I hope you
Speaker 2: could have got to seven and a half. But it's seven.
Speaker 2: I just I can't advise you to bet. I think
Speaker 2: you're betting into a bad number.
Speaker 1: Well, suffice to say it won't be in our contest.
Speaker 1: All right. We mentioned Mike Tomlin, We mentioned the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is visiting the Baltimore Ravens minus five and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites against their division rivals. This is going
Speaker 1: to be our brass Balls Better the Week presented by
Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet.
Speaker 4: You know what it takes, brass balls.
Speaker 1: We've made the very hard decision to back the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens at minus five and a half. We don't want
Speaker 1: to pile on to Mike Tomlin, who we love and
Speaker 1: we think he's an amazing coach. It's the rare time
Speaker 1: we are not backing the Rah Rah Mike Tomlin spot
Speaker 1: All betting is a risk. We recognize Lamar Jackson is
Speaker 1: not as healthy as he has been. This offense has
Speaker 1: not been as consistent as we would like it to be.
Speaker 1: To me, this is really a bet against Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: the inability of this offense to move the ball down
Speaker 1: the field, and a bet against even more. They're very
Speaker 1: quickly aging in front of our eyes defense, and a hope,
Speaker 1: a hope, a bet that the Ravens offense can take
Speaker 1: a smidgeon of advantage against a defense that, as the
Speaker 1: games go on, continues to get worse and worse in
Speaker 1: third downs and continues to get worse and worse in
Speaker 1: explosive plays. And that's when we can see Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: break open some game, some big gains and put these
Speaker 1: games away. It's what happened last year in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: We've seen it happen a couple times with this team
Speaker 1: when they just completely collapse and the offense can't function.
Speaker 1: So Ravens minus five and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love this Ravens team.
Speaker 3: And this's a line that I almost positive will be
Speaker 3: in our contest because this is such a unique matchup
Speaker 3: where you know, it's it's not it's not that calm
Speaker 3: that the public is totally giving up on Lamar. But
Speaker 3: it feels like that's what we reached here with this
Speaker 3: line chat for this probably should be really does just
Speaker 3: look at that just matchup, and most people's models are
Speaker 3: gonna have this at seven. So all right, it's a
Speaker 3: point and a half off. All right, Great, we're getting
Speaker 3: this Ravens at a point a half off. But it's
Speaker 3: also a unique spot where the Ravens have now not
Speaker 3: covered in three straight weeks. Right, So not only is
Speaker 3: the public gonna be off of them, I think they're
Speaker 3: gonna be on Pittsburgh just because I'm not telling one
Speaker 3: of those those trends.
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna be giving out those trends all week.
Speaker 3: Right. That is a known trend thing where if you
Speaker 3: just blindly back the dogs in this matchup, whether it
Speaker 3: be the Ravens or Pittsburgh, over the last twenty years,
Speaker 3: you've come out green, and especially with the numbers above three.
Speaker 3: I give out that stat Tomlin when he's underdog in
Speaker 3: this matchup above three, or even hardball either side when
Speaker 3: the numbers above three, the underdog team is twenty three
Speaker 3: and five against the spread in that spot. So historically
Speaker 3: you've just blindly backed the big dog in the spot,
Speaker 3: and it's worked out for you. When you go back
Speaker 3: through all those years, even when the Ravens had down years,
Speaker 3: it really always was defensive. Like you look at all
Speaker 3: the scores of all those games, it was these insane
Speaker 3: ruling defensive battles.
Speaker 1: Sixteen, fourteen, twenty seventeen. Like, it was games where the
Speaker 1: Steelers defense made big, big plays and caused huge turnovers
Speaker 1: that turned the game. That's what you were always banking on.
Speaker 3: The last three times they played in the Pittsburgh won
Speaker 3: the game. So the last two the Ravens have won,
Speaker 3: they I think they've blown them out, But I just
Speaker 3: thought it was interested. The last three times that Pittsburgh won,
Speaker 3: they won eighteen to sixteen. Does that not sound like
Speaker 3: a defensive game? They won seventeen to ten. Does that
Speaker 3: not it'sund a defensive game. And then they won again
Speaker 3: seventeen to ten. So we talked to Lamar earliest career,
Speaker 3: he was zero to five against spread and straight up
Speaker 3: against its Pittsburgh team. How was when Pittsburgh had this
Speaker 3: dominant defense. Now these last years, right, these last two years,
Speaker 3: the cracks have been forming. This year, it's just totally
Speaker 3: the damn has broken the flood. Gat are totally open.
Speaker 3: We talked about it, like I went back and look
Speaker 3: just to make sure I wasn't speaking out of turn
Speaker 3: on TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt.
Speaker 3: All the numbers back it up. He's been atrocious, getting
Speaker 3: no pressures at all. And you know, if we look
Speaker 3: at this matchup just on paper, we get Lamar is
Speaker 3: banged up. That is something we're got to deal with here.
Speaker 3: This should be a Derek Henry bounce back. Everything they've
Speaker 3: talked about. The coaches in turn said they made a
Speaker 3: huge mistake now running him more against Cincinnati, right, they
Speaker 3: went too much into Lamar, put too much on Lamar's
Speaker 3: play and he just did not live up to it
Speaker 3: against since he last week, where.
Speaker 2: I think this week the lean into it.
Speaker 3: And you know, once again you talk about this matchup defensively,
Speaker 3: this Ravens team, I kind of love it. Where they've
Speaker 3: had KYLEA. Hamilton moving all over the field. This is
Speaker 3: really type of game he's really going to take over.
Speaker 3: You gets to Rodgers that if you already know you
Speaker 3: can't throw the ball twenty plus yards down.
Speaker 2: The field, you're just going to stack the box. You're
Speaker 2: going to try to make him.
Speaker 3: Force the ball downfield, because that's where you've seen him
Speaker 3: turn the ball over. So I love this match, this
Speaker 3: Ravens team, and shocked to see the public is coming
Speaker 3: in on this Pittsburgh team. The tickets, the money, it's
Speaker 3: all coming on Pittsburgh. Yeah, even five and a half,
Speaker 3: it's a good number.
Speaker 1: I'm floored by the way Aaron Rodgers twenty yards downfield?
Speaker 1: How about six yards downfield? Don't forget the stat I
Speaker 1: gave the other day from Ben Solac in his column
Speaker 1: in ESPN dot com. Sixty six percent of his passing
Speaker 1: yards are coming with yards after the catch, Like this
Speaker 1: is historically bad and so it's gonna be a haul
Speaker 1: for him to get the ball downfield. Everyone's seeing it.
Speaker 1: Everyone's seeing the same thing, all right, Baltimore Ravens brass
Speaker 1: Ball's better the Week presented by hard Rock Bett Cincinnati
Speaker 1: at Buffalo. Buffalo is a five and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1: You love the Bills here. The number move five and
Speaker 1: a half to six, down to six, down from six
Speaker 1: to five and a half. The public is all over
Speaker 1: the Bengals in this game. You mentioned in sharp calls
Speaker 1: the wise guys like the Bengals in this game.
Speaker 2: I have six. I just want people to realize that
Speaker 2: they took him heavy.
Speaker 1: At the six, right at the six. It's like, I
Speaker 1: can't rep my head around this game yet. I don't
Speaker 1: want to invest in the Bills. I don't have any
Speaker 1: faith in their defense, and I don't want to invest
Speaker 1: in the Bengals. I don't have any faith in their defense.
Speaker 1: I think it's like it's a perfect straight against weakness,
Speaker 1: strength against weakness game. I don't see an edge for anybody.
Speaker 1: It could go either direction.
Speaker 3: No, it's totally fair. And now I give up those
Speaker 3: stats Joe Burrow. I mean, you take away the Hamlin
Speaker 3: game that got basically canceled out.
Speaker 2: But he's two and zero straight up and against the
Speaker 2: spread against this Bills team.
Speaker 3: So you know, clearly early in his career he's matched
Speaker 3: up well against his Bills team played well against him.
Speaker 3: And you know, I get why there is love for
Speaker 3: this Bangles team. Where Jack gave the stats right the
Speaker 3: secondary of this Bills team, they're bad against downfield passes.
Speaker 3: That's exactly the offense Cincinnati wan's to run. They want
Speaker 3: to push the ball downfield. But I just when I
Speaker 3: really break this one down, it just feels like This
Speaker 3: gonna be a ball control type of game, especially in
Speaker 3: the elements. Like we've already talked about the lake effects
Speaker 3: that could be happening in Cleveland, could be the same
Speaker 3: here in Buffalo, right, could be a really weird weather game,
Speaker 3: which that favors this Bill's team. They don't have offensive
Speaker 3: line that wants to be in Preasprotec. They have an
Speaker 3: offensive line once they run the ball. We saw that
Speaker 3: last week with Pittsburgh that you know they want to
Speaker 3: just be the heavy, big guys pushing these guys downfield.
Speaker 3: And we've seen it with Cincinnati. They don't really have
Speaker 3: a pass rush, let on a de tackle that can.
Speaker 2: Stop the run.
Speaker 3: So it feels like the Bills being able to pick
Speaker 3: their poison here offensive had to beat them, and you know,
Speaker 3: as much grievance we're going to give this Bills defense
Speaker 3: how bad they've.
Speaker 2: Been, there are some ways that can attack you.
Speaker 3: Now. I did see Bosa pop up the injury report
Speaker 3: not practicing this week, which I know you'd be like, Oh,
Speaker 3: it's not that big of a deal. He's actually been
Speaker 3: really good for them this year. Yeah, so that's been
Speaker 3: a great sign up by them. You definitely need him
Speaker 3: back in this type of matchup where you need to
Speaker 3: keep Burrow off his spot, and you know, people when
Speaker 3: to glaze over at Burrow is not playing healthy. He
Speaker 3: is playing hurt. He's talked about it. He's basically got
Speaker 3: a special insert on his foot that every time he's
Speaker 3: pushed off that toe, he's feeling it.
Speaker 2: He says it's it's pain shooting up his leg.
Speaker 3: But he says he becomes n I'm doing when he's
Speaker 3: playing the game because he's got other things going on
Speaker 3: in his mind.
Speaker 2: So you know you're.
Speaker 3: Putt You're taking a wounded Joe Burrow as a as
Speaker 3: a dog on the road in a spot that Chad
Speaker 3: just said that the public is all over it. So
Speaker 3: maybe I won't force it into World War five coming Sunday.
Speaker 3: But I do really love this Bills team in this number.
Speaker 3: But I'm just a little hesitant because the STATA gave
Speaker 3: out Joe Burrow is a dog three points are greater
Speaker 3: eighteen to three against the spread.
Speaker 2: He just he's a covering machine.
Speaker 3: So I just I'm trying to have to put all
Speaker 3: in here on the Bills team where I.
Speaker 2: Kind of like chat I'm a little weary of that.
Speaker 3: Just something I don't trust about this Bills team, but
Speaker 3: just just feels like this is the exact time you
Speaker 3: want it back this Spills team in this spot because
Speaker 3: I just tend to roll bad defenses.
Speaker 1: Let's just see what the weather is on Sunday.
Speaker 2: It's fair.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Chicago Bears visiting the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers because this game was at six and a half
Speaker 1: and I bring it back up because it was moving
Speaker 1: in the Packers direction. The public is backing the Packers
Speaker 1: right now, a slight money edge towards the Packers, but
Speaker 1: an indication that it's pretty split fifty to fifty between
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Packers. When it comes to the
Speaker 1: professional betting community, like it's another one. I'm being a
Speaker 1: little bit wishy washy here. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I'll bet it. I just want to watch the Bears.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not kidding, Simon. I'm pretty sure I
Speaker 1: had a dream about the Bears last night.
Speaker 2: You gotta bet the Bears money lining, brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll bet the Bear's money line.
Speaker 3: Yeah you got if you're a Bear's fain. It feels
Speaker 3: like this the ultimate slave slay the demon. This is uh,
Speaker 3: like I talked this is the team that's been in
Speaker 3: your guys way for so many years, and you know,
Speaker 3: this is the best Bear season since the Mitch Trubisky
Speaker 3: double doink. So it's like, I don't know, if I
Speaker 3: was a Barris fan, I would be all in on it.
Speaker 2: You're getting a good number.
Speaker 3: But we've talked about this is just like sin and
Speaker 3: I this is a huge, shockingly public dog because the
Speaker 3: money might be a little even the tickets, it's.
Speaker 1: All over the Bears, the Bears.
Speaker 3: So that's that's very alarming where it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this is a ton of money coming on or just
Speaker 3: a ton of public coming in on this Bears side.
Speaker 2: But I want to be on Green Bay.
Speaker 3: But I honestly see why this money is coming to
Speaker 3: this Bears team, Like it feels like it is warranted
Speaker 3: because we've seen this Packers team.
Speaker 2: It's not like they're that great against inconsistent, very inconsistent.
Speaker 3: As well, but like as big favorites too this year,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not like they were recovering machine. We've
Speaker 3: seen them struggle as a big favorite show. I believe
Speaker 3: they started the year zero to six as a six
Speaker 3: and six and a half or seven point favorite to
Speaker 3: start the season, So you know, there is some things
Speaker 3: to take away from this where you know, this Bears team,
Speaker 3: they've basically been on this divisional run here. So as
Speaker 3: bad as they looked right like they've had some letdown games,
Speaker 3: they did dominate that Minnesota team, which, okay, we won't
Speaker 3: take much away from that JJ McCarthy that you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they dominated Detroit, but they did play,
Speaker 3: like we talked about, playing with big balls. Lafleur going
Speaker 3: for on those fourth downs that was insane. That was
Speaker 3: like next level, like he was just playing simply to win.
Speaker 3: He did not care about trying to play for field
Speaker 3: goals in that game. So I think it's gonna be
Speaker 3: same here, Chad. You're gonna see Laflour and kill mode
Speaker 3: against you guys, and he's had the Bear's number.
Speaker 2: So I love this game so much.
Speaker 3: Like Chad said, he's gonna probably take the Bears money
Speaker 3: line or either set this one out on the other
Speaker 3: side where it's like I'm gonna be Oliver Green Bay.
Speaker 2: But just not very confident.
Speaker 3: I thought i'd be more confident come Thursday and be like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, all the pros are with me on this
Speaker 3: packer's side.
Speaker 2: This is to the right side.
Speaker 3: I see, I see what people are seeing with the spars,
Speaker 3: and I see what the public is scene.
Speaker 2: Where as good as the.
Speaker 3: Screen Bays team is divisional game, you have to throw
Speaker 3: a lot of that out and you know, or as
Speaker 3: great as he's been down the stretch here, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like this is the type of matchup that I could
Speaker 3: see Ben Johnson really challenging him, which he's not had.
Speaker 3: You know, he's not been challenged by Bears coaches in
Speaker 3: the past. Right we look back on this the Bears
Speaker 3: coach reason they did they not had a guy like
Speaker 3: we can we can say like Ben Johnson here.
Speaker 2: So I love it.
Speaker 3: This is the exact type of scenario where it's like,
Speaker 3: is this the turning of a page or is this
Speaker 3: the same old Bears Chad? So, I love it for
Speaker 3: all the hooplah off the field stuff we'll be able
Speaker 3: to talk about after the fact, but look, we'll do it.
Speaker 2: Chad.
Speaker 3: I'm on Green Bay, but I get while you're taking
Speaker 3: a position on the Bear's money line.
Speaker 1: Uh, the schedule was littered with these kind of turn
Speaker 1: the page moments and and where are the lions, the
Speaker 1: lions of old or the new? Are the chiefs? The
Speaker 1: chiefs of old or the chiefs of new? Are the Bears?
Speaker 1: The Bears of old or the bears of new? We're
Speaker 1: constantly having asked these questions. That's what makes betting so interesting,
Speaker 1: is like you have to take a stand and you
Speaker 1: have to put your money on the line with an
Speaker 1: opinion about where you think something is going to go,
Speaker 1: not where it's been. That's what makes it so fascinating.
Speaker 1: All I know is I woke up to p in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and I'm fairly certain when
Speaker 1: I woke up, I was dreaming about the Bears, and
Speaker 1: I think it was the Bears' screen game. I swear
Speaker 1: to God that's what I was dreaming about.
Speaker 3: Bears fans a bet they're over under. They've already hit
Speaker 3: their win total for the season eight and a.
Speaker 1: Half, one game that we have made a choice on together.
Speaker 1: We are on the same side, the Los Angeles Rams
Speaker 1: minus seven and a half versus the Arizona Cardinals. We
Speaker 1: know we're going against the wise guys here. We're basically
Speaker 1: back in. We're going against the big home dog that
Speaker 1: has lost seven games by four points. Or less because
Speaker 1: they've also lost multiple games in the division by three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and the Rams are coming off their first game of
Speaker 1: the year where they were on the road as ten
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites and lost outright. I'm okay
Speaker 1: back in the Rams here, I'm okay back in Sean
Speaker 1: McVay here. I like this defense to get pressure against
Speaker 1: Jacobe Brissett. I'm perfectly fine with our position. Are you
Speaker 1: still perfectly fine with our position?
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: It feels you a nice spot to back this Rams
Speaker 3: team after embarrassing loss on the road where everything felt
Speaker 3: like it was going against them, and this Arizona team,
Speaker 3: you know, we we we kind of fell in love
Speaker 3: with Jakobe. Were set and it's turn on fault because
Speaker 3: of that Dallas game where they were just so impressive,
Speaker 3: they played so well. But we've seen it since then.
Speaker 3: When they do play they're juggernaut of a division. They
Speaker 3: get actually absolutely smoked. And you know, Seattle, I believe
Speaker 3: they'd be forty four twenty two.
Speaker 2: Then they played the forty nine ers who beat them.
Speaker 3: I believe forty one to twenty two, and I gave
Speaker 3: you that crazy status the first time a team had
Speaker 3: given up forty points and back to back week's divisional
Speaker 3: foes in like thirty years. So we know historically this
Speaker 3: is a horrible, horrible Cardinals defense, and every game they've
Speaker 3: come back, and it's been because either team lets him in,
Speaker 3: they don't really shut him out, or you know, Jacoby
Speaker 3: Brissett just has these incredible moments and like that Bucks game,
Speaker 3: the Bucks should have been up double digits, right that
Speaker 3: guy went.
Speaker 1: Touchdown, That guy went touchdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let them linger. And we've talked about Versett.
Speaker 3: If you let him linger, he's gonna come back in
Speaker 3: that back door and get that cover.
Speaker 2: So that would be the only fear for me here.
Speaker 3: But this feels like the absolute type of game where
Speaker 3: you know, we see the Rams after a bad loss
Speaker 3: with McVeigh put up forty forty two points like these
Speaker 3: other divisional teams did against this really bad Cardinals defense.
Speaker 2: And I gave you those stats.
Speaker 3: He's absolutely owned Arizona McVay as the head coach, he
Speaker 3: just has their number and matchup scheme wise, he does
Speaker 3: really well against them. So not gonna let the big
Speaker 3: number scarras off Chad minus seven and a half, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take down this Rams team.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're building a roster here for Sunday.
Speaker 1: Last game I want to talk about is Houston and
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Kansas City is still at minus three, minus
Speaker 1: one twenty at hard Rock Bat mostly three and a
Speaker 1: half's elsewhere. As I just said, the chief gone the
Speaker 1: way of the Lions. Is it time to get off
Speaker 1: them this year? Is there still magic in the number three?
Speaker 1: Can they break the trend of losing all these close games?
Speaker 1: Will there be regression back to the mean in a
Speaker 1: positive way for the Kansas City Chiefs. This game has massive,
Speaker 1: massive playoff implications for both teams. It is the tipping
Speaker 1: point folk froum moment for these teams in the season.
Speaker 1: The Texans defense is awesome, but I'm always going to
Speaker 1: be loath to bet against Patrick Mahomes at home as
Speaker 1: a short favorite in a must have scenario. That is
Speaker 1: one that that is a bridge too far. I can't
Speaker 1: walk away. I can't be the one who's betting against
Speaker 1: someone who might go down as the greatest quarterback ever
Speaker 1: and is still in his prime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't join the public and the professionals
Speaker 3: there on the Texas like Chat talked about it, it's
Speaker 3: really about the number right, the chief Team isn't good
Speaker 3: enough to be favorite minus three and a half, which
Speaker 3: is what I think a lot of pros and the
Speaker 3: public are taking that position on which I totally get.
Speaker 3: We're talking minus three here at hard Rock, which hopefully
Speaker 3: in our contest, God bless hard Rock, they'll give us
Speaker 3: two and a half because that will be an automatic
Speaker 3: play in my opinion on this chief team, because that,
Speaker 3: to me, will be too much a reaction. And this
Speaker 3: is me signing the guy who's been fading this Chiefs
Speaker 3: team NonStop since that Bills game.
Speaker 2: I think you know it.
Speaker 3: Took a position against them with Denver they are a
Speaker 3: minus four favorite, they lost outright. Took up a position
Speaker 3: against them against the Colts, think they are minus four
Speaker 3: and a half.
Speaker 2: They closed favorite, they won by three.
Speaker 3: Took a position against them with the Dallas Cowboys minus
Speaker 3: half plus three and a half on Dallas.
Speaker 2: They lost outright to Dallas.
Speaker 3: So we've seen these last three games, it all comes
Speaker 3: down to the last position. Like Chad said, it's eventually
Speaker 3: got go the other way, right this Chiefs mathematically, they
Speaker 3: can't keep losing these one score games, right, And we've
Speaker 3: seen Mahomes tend to succel that this year, it just
Speaker 3: not has been that way right. When they get these
Speaker 3: close games, it's either he's not had the ball in
Speaker 3: his hands and the other team's just eating the clock up,
Speaker 3: or he goes in there and it's just not been
Speaker 3: Mahomes like right, he's made the mistakes and not brought
Speaker 3: his team back from death. So I love how desperate
Speaker 3: this Chiefs team's gonna be. But on the flip side,
Speaker 3: I get people's position. Texans are just as desperate. They
Speaker 3: know they're playing for their division, their own playoff lives.
Speaker 3: So I get why people are taking their position on
Speaker 3: this Texans team. But I've wanted to be on the
Speaker 3: Chiefs team all week. I wanted to be patient and
Speaker 3: let the number get to a position where I fle
Speaker 3: carble bet in it. It's hit that spot, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take the minus three and pray the Pros keep coming
Speaker 3: on Texas and I get a two and a half,
Speaker 3: but got no issue taking the minster. I just feel
Speaker 3: like this is finally a Chiefs line. This is the
Speaker 3: deck spot you want to back Mahomes and this Chiefs team.
Speaker 1: So glad to hear you say that. I so believe
Speaker 1: in the Chiefs in this spot, I could be blinded
Speaker 1: by it.
Speaker 2: We are, We're definitely we're This is a past performance.
Speaker 3: Bet, I'm happy to have met that where it's like
Speaker 3: I just I'm willing to see Mahomes die here. But
Speaker 3: this is the exact type of game we talked Mahomes.
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to stab them the hard thirty times
Speaker 3: to cut his head off before he's dead. He's just
Speaker 3: not gonna go quietly into the night. This man is
Speaker 3: gonna fight to the last second. And now you're giving
Speaker 3: me a minus three on that at home, I gotta
Speaker 3: take I have to take that number.
Speaker 1: We could talk about the Eagles at the Chargers for
Speaker 1: a second, just because you mentioned it in sharp calls.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a game we're gonna put in
Speaker 1: the contest. We're not gonna I can't imagine we're getting
Speaker 1: a two and a half. But if you have strong
Speaker 1: opinion I'm agnostic.
Speaker 3: With the pros, then like the pros, they're all they're
Speaker 3: all in this Chargers team, and they're just even the
Speaker 3: publics with the Chargers, and it's just everyone's the same boat.
Speaker 3: I think it's just so negative, so bad for this
Speaker 3: Eagles team. Where if I told you you can get
Speaker 3: this Eagles team, who's pretty healthy minus two and a
Speaker 3: half against a one handed Herbert that's out his left
Speaker 3: and right tackle, you'd be running to the window with me.
Speaker 3: So that's my I can't believe it. Like when I
Speaker 3: was talking to pros, I'm like, shit, what am I missing?
Speaker 3: Like you guys love this Charger team, I can't believe it.
Speaker 3: Like I cannot believe this is not the exact time
Speaker 3: you hammer this ego side in this number. It just
Speaker 3: the hate has gone too far. I just cannot get over.
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, Herbert against bad teams, we don't
Speaker 3: mind backing them. Him against the Raiders. Yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 3: When you back Herbert him against a great playoff defense
Speaker 3: and team, you fade him.
Speaker 2: You do not back Herbert here in this spot.
Speaker 3: So I might be blind to it, have my biases here,
Speaker 3: but I got this number amount of mis three and
Speaker 3: a half for this Eagles team.
Speaker 2: So you know you're getting a full point of value.
Speaker 3: And the fact that publican and professionals are all coming
Speaker 3: to the Chargers, it feels like this is a nice
Speaker 3: spot to be with the up sportsbook here back in
Speaker 3: this Eagles team at Mice two and so maybe I'm
Speaker 3: missing something here, but I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: It's to me the hate's gone too far.
Speaker 3: Like Herbert, You're you're a tough son of a bitch here,
Speaker 3: but you're not going against, you know, a bad defensive line.
Speaker 3: This is a defensive line that can get after a
Speaker 3: quarterback and put major pressure on them. So this just
Speaker 3: feels like a nice matchup of the SEAGU team.
Speaker 2: And yeah, this is a.
Speaker 3: Very unique spot for me where I thought I would
Speaker 3: be all on the Segos team. But I'm very hesitantly
Speaker 3: betting it because I'm just worried there's something I'm missing
Speaker 3: here with the SEAGUS team. It just feels way too
Speaker 3: easy to getting Eagles Mice two and a half aguns.
Speaker 3: Like I said, a one handed Herbert without his left
Speaker 3: and right tackle.
Speaker 2: Like it's just what am I missing here? I'm missing
Speaker 2: something clearly.
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Speaker 1: All right, Simon, let's talk about the biggest bets.
Speaker 2: Pull up close pants and be a man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shocking a week.
Speaker 2: I'm a little not a little gunshot, but I kind
Speaker 2: of am. Honestly.
Speaker 3: I usually had a lot more bet this week in
Speaker 3: this position. But again, we didn't really talk about much.
Speaker 3: I think in a pretty large position on the Saints
Speaker 3: like that matchup. Maybe we'll talk a little bit more
Speaker 3: Sunday for dogs, that's probably my one of my bigger
Speaker 3: spots right now is them in Washington and the Jaguars,
Speaker 3: And for favorites. You know, I can't quit it, Cleveland, Baltimore.
Speaker 3: I just I really love both those favorites and the
Speaker 3: Chiefs and minus three. I really love that one. So
Speaker 3: nothing huge yet. Maybe comes Sunday I'll have some really
Speaker 3: big bets. But right now and not just dipping my
Speaker 3: toes and my whole foots in the water. I put
Speaker 3: some good money into it, but I'm not I haven't
Speaker 3: dived in yet. I'm just a little hesitan. I want
Speaker 3: to see what the weather report is, what the injured
Speaker 3: report has come today?
Speaker 1: All right? Underdog money line, Parley, my dog blocks.
Speaker 3: Your dog, Your dog blocks mot dog.
Speaker 1: Who do we want to do this week? I would
Speaker 1: say Jaguars, Yeah, Jets.
Speaker 2: Jets, and then let's do uh. For the third one,
Speaker 2: let's do Washington.
Speaker 1: All right? And then I think for the favorites, we
Speaker 1: want to do the Rams. I made a list the
Speaker 1: other day. We want to do.
Speaker 3: We'll take take them out of five and a half. Though, okay,
Speaker 3: I'll do the money line. Do the five and a half, Seattle, Seattle,
Speaker 3: I do the same thing, take it a five and
Speaker 3: a half. I wouldn't do money line, and for money lines,
Speaker 3: I would do Chiefs.
Speaker 2: I think we both agree on that one, right, Yeap.
Speaker 1: Baltimore O would.
Speaker 2: Say, how do we not get Ravens in there. We
Speaker 2: love that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Buffalo for the last one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do Buffalo. Yeah, I feels I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: with you. I don't want to do Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Let's do Buffalo, Kansas City, Buffalo, Denver.
Speaker 3: If you don't love Buffalo, because that is risky, right,
Speaker 3: we take We're going against a good quarterback, all right.
Speaker 3: I gave you the stats Denver bone Knicks as a
Speaker 3: favorite fifteen and oh straight up. So if you want
Speaker 3: to get bone Nicks in there, you can easily get
Speaker 3: that down to two and a half, one and a half.
Speaker 2: You don't have to take the money line.
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Denver, Baltimore, Seattle and the Rams take them
Speaker 1: down to minus five and a half. That is our
Speaker 1: favorites money line parlay. Simon, it's time for Sharp versus Square.
Speaker 1: We missed it last week with the condensed show schedule.
Speaker 1: Give me your should we do? I don't want to
Speaker 1: do Atlanta Versy. I don't know who's gonna be playing
Speaker 1: in that game yet, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I mean, if for my square side, I was thinking
Speaker 3: the Chiefs minus three. But I'll stick to my m
Speaker 3: O in this in this part where I always go sharp.
Speaker 3: So give me give me the Saints plus eight and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 1: Interesting, very interesting, Okay, I would say, oh boy, Uh,
Speaker 1: Chat's choice was the Jets brass Balls. I think was
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Simon says was the Commanders. We haven't done
Speaker 1: rock in a hard place yet. Uh, all right, give
Speaker 1: me the Jacks.
Speaker 2: Wow. It was full circle. Yeah, my god.
Speaker 1: I know, well, honestly down to them in the Browns,
Speaker 1: and I feel like the Browns on Sunday, we want
Speaker 1: to use them as rock and a harp place. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. Okay, I think I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a I think it's just gonna be a hard
Speaker 1: conversation on Sunday about the Browns. All right, this has
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